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- My name's Paul Greengrass...
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- ...and this is the director's commentary
- for Captain Phillips.
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- The story starts in a small
- farming community, Underhill, Vermont...
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- 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:53,763
- ...where Richard Phillips...
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- ...a Merchant Marine captain
- working for Maersk Line...
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- 00:00:59,518 --> 00:01:02,563
- ...gets ready to go on a trip...
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- 00:01:02,772 --> 00:01:07,151
- ...something he's done
- many, many times before.
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- 00:01:10,196 --> 00:01:12,698
- There are lots of reasons
- why you make a film.
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- 00:01:12,907 --> 00:01:18,162
- With this one, it was the compelling
- story, for me, of two captains.
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- One from Vermont...
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- 00:01:21,457 --> 00:01:24,919
- ...in charge of a large modern
- container ship...
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- 00:01:25,127 --> 00:01:28,422
- ...and the other, a young Somali...
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- 00:01:28,631 --> 00:01:31,217
- ...in charge of a pirate skiff.
- And their collision...
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- 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:35,888
- ...their trial of strength,
- their test of wills was really the film.
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- 00:01:36,222 --> 00:01:37,473
- But also, another reason...
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- 00:01:37,682 --> 00:01:40,935
- ...was that my father was
- in the Merchant Marine, at sea all his life.
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- 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:45,648
- So I felt I knew about these men
- and what their life was.
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- You all right?
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- 00:01:50,194 --> 00:01:53,781
- The first scene
- is a very important scene, I think...
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- 00:01:55,157 --> 00:01:57,618
- ...between Richard Phillips and his wife...
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- 00:01:58,327 --> 00:02:02,790
- ...in which they really lay out
- the thematic ground of the film...
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- 00:02:02,999 --> 00:02:04,333
- ...which is unease.
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- 00:02:06,252 --> 00:02:07,503
- When we started the film...
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- 00:02:07,712 --> 00:02:10,256
- ...we talked a lot about
- the dominant question being:
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- Are we going to be okay?
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- 00:02:14,051 --> 00:02:16,470
- I think all of us,
- no matter what our professions...
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- 00:02:16,679 --> 00:02:19,807
- ...no matter what our circumstances,
- have that sense of unease...
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- 00:02:20,016 --> 00:02:26,397
- ...that the future is not necessarily
- going to go as well as the past.
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- 00:02:26,605 --> 00:02:29,984
- And I wanted that sense...
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- 00:02:30,192 --> 00:02:33,988
- ...of a fast-moving, fast-changing world.
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- 00:02:34,196 --> 00:02:36,907
- The globalizing economy
- that drives all of our lives...
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- 00:02:37,116 --> 00:02:39,493
- ...and drives all of our choices,
- wherever we are...
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- 00:02:42,038 --> 00:02:45,291
- ...to really underpin the film.
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- 00:02:47,335 --> 00:02:50,004
- In fact, when we first started the film....
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- 00:02:51,464 --> 00:02:55,134
- The-- It was based
- on Richard Phillips' book...
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- 00:02:56,052 --> 00:02:59,513
- ...which was really the account
- of his first-person experiences...
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- 00:02:59,722 --> 00:03:02,016
- ...and his wife's experiences
- back in Vermont.
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- 00:03:02,433 --> 00:03:04,143
- And that was
- one of the reasons why...
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- 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:07,938
- ...we cast that wonderful actress,
- Catherine Keener.
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- 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:11,484
- As the story-- Or as the development
- process unfolded...
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- 00:03:11,692 --> 00:03:15,029
- ...it became clear to me
- that our story really lay on the water.
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- 00:03:15,237 --> 00:03:18,866
- And so we ended up
- just with this one scene...
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- 00:03:19,033 --> 00:03:21,660
- ...and I'm forever
- in Catherine's debt. She--
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- 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:24,914
- I said, "Do you really wanna do this?
- It's a very small part now."
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- 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:29,293
- And she said, "No, no. I really do."
- And she believed in the film.
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- 00:03:29,877 --> 00:03:33,964
- And she graced us with her presence.
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- 00:03:34,173 --> 00:03:36,592
- And as I say, I'm forever in her debt.
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- She's a wonderful actress.
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- 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:46,519
- I just wanted these scenes
- to be everyday.
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- Nothing loaded in the farewell.
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- Just ordinary.
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- 00:03:51,023 --> 00:03:53,109
- -Have a safe trip.
- -I'll call you from there.
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- 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:56,070
- A big danger in these sorts of stories
- is to play the end...
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- 00:03:56,278 --> 00:03:58,781
- ...to play every scene
- with the knowledge of the end...
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- 00:03:58,989 --> 00:04:00,658
- ...so it becomes kind of doom-laden.
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- 00:04:00,866 --> 00:04:03,077
- But, of course,
- there would have been nothing...
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- 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:06,872
- ...in Richard Phillips' mind
- or his wife's mind...
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- 00:04:07,081 --> 00:04:10,292
- ...to suggest that this was anything
- other than a routine trip.
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- 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:17,216
- And then we cut
- to a very different part of the world.
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- Eyl, Somalia.
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- A pirate community...
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- ...financed by--
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- From far away.
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- 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:31,814
- --by organized criminals.
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- 00:04:32,231 --> 00:04:34,483
- Because the truth
- about modern day piracy...
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- 00:04:34,692 --> 00:04:39,113
- ...is it's organized crime
- on the high seas.
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- Hurry, Muse!
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- 00:04:42,158 --> 00:04:44,702
- And, of course, like organized crime
- through history...
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- 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:49,832
- ...its roots lie in poverty and desperation
- and lack of choices.
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- 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:54,587
- And we meet a young man, Muse...
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- 00:04:55,463 --> 00:04:58,215
- ...who's a skiff captain.
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- And I wanted to portray
- in these scenes...
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- 00:05:05,264 --> 00:05:09,435
- ...the context
- in which criminal choices are made.
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- 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:14,773
- And that context, of course,
- is the desperate, lawless...
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- 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:19,111
- ...warlord-dominated,
- gangster-dominated...
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- 00:05:20,696 --> 00:05:23,073
- ...impoverished world of Somalia.
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- 00:05:25,534 --> 00:05:30,748
- And also to set up the rivalry
- between Muse...
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- 00:05:30,956 --> 00:05:34,585
- ...and the other pirate-skiff captain,
- Asad.
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- Stay out of my way today.
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- 00:05:41,717 --> 00:05:43,969
- And to say a little bit...
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- ...about the brutal world...
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- ...of modern piracy.
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- Muse, take me with you.
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- 00:05:54,605 --> 00:05:56,857
- These scenes were all shot in Morocco...
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- 00:05:57,274 --> 00:06:02,863
- ...but it was uncannily close
- to the coast of Somalia.
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- 00:06:04,156 --> 00:06:06,242
- And we meet the other pirates.
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- The young--
- The youngest of the four, Bilal...
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- ...carrying the khat...
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- 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:19,546
- ...which is chewed ubiquitously
- by people in Somalia.
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- It's also considered an antidote
- for seasickness...
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- 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,054
- ...which is why a lot
- of these young pirates use it.
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- It's a sort of--
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- It's the drug of choice in Somalia.
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- Next time bring me something
- if you want to work.
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- 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:46,699
- I wanted this scene to carry echoes...
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- 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:50,703
- ...of that famous scene,
- start of On the Waterfront...
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- 00:06:52,538 --> 00:06:59,211
- ...where you see that ruthless people
- choose who's to work and who's not.
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- 00:07:00,838 --> 00:07:04,925
- And that creates
- a whole system of control.
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- 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:11,015
- But, of course,
- you know from this first scene...
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- ...that Muse is going to come into conflict
- and collision with Phillips.
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- The two men whose journeys
- are going to meet.
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- I want him.
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- That's Najee.
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- Why did he pick him?
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- The hard man of the four,
- I suppose you'd call him.
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- 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:43,964
- So now we know the four of them.
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- Muse in command, Bilal...
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- 00:07:48,844 --> 00:07:50,554
- ...Najee and Elmi the driver...
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- 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:53,932
- ...there with the blue fuel bucket...
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- 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:56,310
- ...and, of course, the ladder.
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- 00:08:05,903 --> 00:08:07,905
- This was a very difficult scene
- to shoot...
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- 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:09,948
- ...because the swell was very big.
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- 00:08:10,491 --> 00:08:12,868
- And those boats are quite dangerous.
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- 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:17,706
- You know, when they pitch
- into the waves...
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- 00:08:18,165 --> 00:08:22,419
- ...there were a lot of safety issues
- actually, funnily enough, with that.
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- As many the-- As with many
- of the other scenes on the water...
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- 00:08:26,882 --> 00:08:28,884
- ...safety is always paramount.
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- 00:08:29,093 --> 00:08:32,054
- Faster, move faster!
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- 00:08:32,888 --> 00:08:37,142
- And I wanted to show
- the relationship...
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- ...between the pressure...
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- 00:08:41,647 --> 00:08:45,317
- ...that a Maersk captain feels under...
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- 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:50,155
- ...and the way that same pressure
- is translated...
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- 00:08:50,739 --> 00:08:55,911
- ...into a vessel off the coast of Somalia.
- A pirate vessel off the coast of Somalia.
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- 00:08:56,704 --> 00:08:58,956
- It's the pressure
- of a fast-globalizing world...
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- 00:08:59,164 --> 00:09:00,582
- ...but, of course...
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- 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:06,797
- ...it's a harsher, a more brutal world
- down at the bottom.
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- 00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:19,017
- And I very much
- liked Henry Jackman's score there...
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- 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:23,147
- ...which was a cello...
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- 00:09:23,647 --> 00:09:27,192
- ...with a variety of pans...
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- 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:30,237
- ...and metal objects...
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- 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:36,118
- ...used to create percussive sounds
- of tension.
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- 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:42,040
- So now we come back to Richard
- Phillips at Salalah Port, Oman...
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- 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:45,586
- ...where he joins the Maersk Alabama.
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- 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:48,130
- This scene was actually shot...
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- 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:51,008
- ...on a harbor in Malta.
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- 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:53,802
- And we used some small visual effects,
- set extensions...
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- 00:09:55,179 --> 00:09:59,475
- ...just to create
- the additional sense of scale.
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- 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,101
- Sign right there, sir.
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- 00:10:01,852 --> 00:10:04,271
- But it worked really well, I think.
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- 00:10:04,646 --> 00:10:07,608
- I totally believed
- we were in Salalah Port.
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- 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:13,489
- One of the big decisions we made
- early in this film...
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- 00:10:13,697 --> 00:10:17,201
- ...was to shoot as much
- as we possibly could on the water...
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- 00:10:17,409 --> 00:10:18,535
- ...on the ocean...
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- 00:10:18,744 --> 00:10:20,537
- ...and as much as we possibly could...
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- 00:10:20,746 --> 00:10:24,041
- ...on the actual vessels.
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- 00:10:24,249 --> 00:10:26,502
- This vessel was actually
- the Maersk Alexandra...
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- 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:28,170
- ...an identical sister ship...
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- 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:31,590
- ...the only sister ship
- of the Maersk Alabama.
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- 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:33,258
- So it was an identical ship...
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- 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:38,180
- ...and we were able to hire it
- and bring it to Malta.
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- 00:10:38,931 --> 00:10:42,142
- And it just brought to life...
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- 00:10:43,811 --> 00:10:47,147
- ...the piece in a way that shooting on set
- would never have been able to.
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- 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:50,567
- Just the detail
- of the pirate cages unlocked...
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- 00:10:50,776 --> 00:10:53,820
- ...the engine-room doors unlocked...
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- 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:56,907
- ...the corridors, the compression...
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- 00:10:57,115 --> 00:11:00,077
- ...the claustrophobia of it all.
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- 00:11:00,410 --> 00:11:04,122
- It became an adventure for all of us
- who made the film too.
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- 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:07,459
- Phillips comes
- into his captain's quarters...
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- 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:09,962
- ...and then he starts
- by coming up to the bridge.
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- 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:13,715
- -Hey, good to see you, Cap.
- -Shane. Good to see you.
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- 00:11:13,882 --> 00:11:16,385
- -Good to see you.
- -Hey. Carry on.
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- 00:11:16,552 --> 00:11:17,845
- -Hey, bos?
- -Yeah?
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- 00:11:18,804 --> 00:11:21,431
- And he meets his chief mate,
- Shane Murphy...
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- 00:11:22,307 --> 00:11:23,725
- ...played by Michael Chernus.
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- 00:11:23,892 --> 00:11:26,061
- --grab Jimmy, get on the Lodestar.
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- 00:11:27,396 --> 00:11:29,481
- It's a tremendous challenge, I think...
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- 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:31,358
- ...for an actor...
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- 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:34,236
- ...talking about Tom Hanks here...
- 169
- 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:37,948
- ...to come in
- and be a believable captain...
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- 00:11:38,156 --> 00:11:39,533
- ...of a modern container ship.
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- 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:42,953
- There's a huge skill set
- that you have to have...
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- 00:11:43,161 --> 00:11:46,206
- ...to be in charge of a ship.
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- 00:11:47,416 --> 00:11:50,878
- And Tom spent a lot of time
- on the Alexandra.
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- 00:11:51,086 --> 00:11:55,549
- In fact, he took a passage himself
- on the ship alone with the crew...
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- 00:11:55,757 --> 00:12:01,972
- ...so that he could see how the ship
- was captained by Captain Larsen.
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- 00:12:03,599 --> 00:12:05,893
- And by the time we started shooting...
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- 00:12:06,101 --> 00:12:08,312
- ...it was amazing to all of us, I think...
- 178
- 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,648
- ...how absolutely believably he slipped...
- 179
- 00:12:11,857 --> 00:12:15,611
- ...into the role of the captain.
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- 00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:17,904
- --all the way down to Mombasa.
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- 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:20,157
- We need five minutes
- on that reefer bow.
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- 00:12:23,327 --> 00:12:25,871
- We should be able
- to unload the containers around 0800.
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- 00:12:25,996 --> 00:12:28,707
- Always a difficult judgment
- to make in a film like this...
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- 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:31,126
- ...how hard to hit...
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- 00:12:32,586 --> 00:12:36,340
- ...the idea of the dangerous waters.
- 186
- 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,383
- You have to do it because it's....
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- 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:41,803
- Your audience knows
- that's where the piece is going.
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- 00:12:42,012 --> 00:12:44,389
- But you don't want it
- to be too heavy-handed...
- 189
- 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:50,312
- ...and again, I thought
- that Henry's score was perfectly judged...
- 190
- 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,358
- ...because you move
- from just a little sense of unease...
- 191
- 00:12:54,691 --> 00:13:00,113
- ...into this brass chord...
- 192
- 00:13:00,781 --> 00:13:03,283
- ...that becomes the basis for the score
- as we develop.
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- 00:13:06,578 --> 00:13:07,663
- Tighten it up.
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- 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,831
- Hey, slow down.
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- 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:16,296
- So then we move
- into the departure of the Alabama.
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- 00:13:17,047 --> 00:13:18,715
- We had to use visual effects...
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- 00:13:18,924 --> 00:13:22,469
- ...to change the Alexandra
- to the Alabama in that previous shot.
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- 00:13:22,678 --> 00:13:25,138
- There was little visual-effects work
- in the film...
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- 00:13:25,347 --> 00:13:29,267
- ...but most of it was in that shot...
- 200
- 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:32,980
- ...again, changing the Alabama--
- The Alexandra to the Alabama.
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- 00:13:33,188 --> 00:13:34,231
- Dead slow ahead.
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- 00:13:41,363 --> 00:13:45,575
- Again, this scene's important
- because you need to sell...
- 203
- 00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:50,330
- ...the technological power
- of the modern container ship...
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- 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:51,873
- ...with its huge engines...
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- 00:13:52,082 --> 00:13:58,964
- ...its very full cargo of containers...
- 206
- 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:04,928
- ...and the high-tech equipment
- that Phillips has at his disposal.
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- 00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:11,184
- And also to sell its fragility.
- I always think as you see these shots...
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- 00:14:11,393 --> 00:14:14,980
- ...you feel it's a sort of delicate machine
- as well...
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- 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,983
- ...as it cuts its way through the ocean...
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- 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:23,071
- ...and out towards the Somali Basin.
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- 00:14:27,909 --> 00:14:29,828
- We talked a lot, Tom and I...
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- 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:33,457
- ...about trying to get
- as authentically as we could...
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- 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:39,212
- ...to capture the ordinary procedures
- of a captain's life.
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- 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:44,801
- The three times daily, four times daily,
- walking around the deck...
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- 00:14:45,010 --> 00:14:47,262
- ...just to check who's doing what...
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- 00:14:47,471 --> 00:14:49,556
- ...how the cargo is...
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- 00:14:49,765 --> 00:14:51,600
- ...how the ship is.
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- 00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:57,064
- And in a film like this, the temptation
- often is to cut these pieces.
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- 00:14:57,272 --> 00:15:00,025
- But actually, very often...
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- 00:15:00,233 --> 00:15:04,196
- ...if you take time to set up the world,
- to explore the world...
- 221
- 00:15:04,613 --> 00:15:05,947
- ...it pays dividends later...
- 222
- 00:15:06,156 --> 00:15:09,534
- ...because you've become invested,
- as an audience, in it...
- 223
- 00:15:09,743 --> 00:15:13,747
- ...as a believable world
- with believable characters.
- 224
- 00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:20,879
- Again, we had to pick the world
- of a modern Merchant Marine crew.
- 225
- 00:15:21,088 --> 00:15:22,214
- It's a hard life.
- 226
- 00:15:23,465 --> 00:15:25,675
- As I know from my father,
- it's a hard life...
- 227
- 00:15:25,884 --> 00:15:30,013
- ...and people who go to sea go to sea
- because it's a choice. It's a calling.
- 228
- 00:15:39,648 --> 00:15:42,776
- And now I think we know
- the rhythm of the film.
- 229
- 00:15:42,984 --> 00:15:45,195
- We're gonna cut
- between these two worlds.
- 230
- 00:15:47,322 --> 00:15:49,574
- Captain Phillips...
- 231
- 00:15:49,866 --> 00:15:52,953
- ...and the young pirate, Captain Muse.
- 232
- 00:15:53,662 --> 00:15:56,248
- And this is obviously the moment...
- 233
- 00:15:57,457 --> 00:16:00,001
- ...where he sees the Alabama.
- 234
- 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:04,464
- He doesn't, of course, know it's that ship
- then, but he just knows it as a blip...
- 235
- 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:06,675
- ...on its own in the ocean.
- 236
- 00:16:07,551 --> 00:16:09,970
- We know now the collision
- we've been waiting for...
- 237
- 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:14,141
- ...almost from the first moment
- of the film, is not far away.
- 238
- 00:16:27,112 --> 00:16:29,865
- Again, this is another scene that....
- 239
- 00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:32,158
- You don't want to hurry your audience.
- 240
- 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:37,163
- They know where you're going. In many
- ways, you want to lean against it.
- 241
- 00:16:37,372 --> 00:16:40,500
- Phillips receives the warnings.
- 242
- 00:16:40,709 --> 00:16:44,170
- There were a lot of warnings issued
- at that time.
- 243
- 00:16:46,047 --> 00:16:49,301
- A problem that a Merchant Marine
- captain like Phillips had...
- 244
- 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:52,345
- ...was that they were under instructions
- from the company...
- 245
- 00:16:52,888 --> 00:16:57,392
- ...to continue on their route...
- 246
- 00:16:57,601 --> 00:17:01,354
- ...and the warnings were unspecific.
- 247
- 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:05,317
- Pirates were attacking hundreds, if not
- thousands of miles out into the ocean.
- 248
- 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,611
- There was no safe distance.
- 249
- 00:17:08,737 --> 00:17:12,115
- The only way you could get through
- was to move as quickly as you could...
- 250
- 00:17:12,324 --> 00:17:14,618
- ...through dangerous waters
- and hope for the best.
- 251
- 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:16,786
- Ken, you're the duty officer?
- 252
- 00:17:16,953 --> 00:17:18,413
- -Yeah, Cap.
- -Right.
- 253
- 00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:21,458
- Boat with two armed men is approaching
- on your starboard beam.
- 254
- 00:17:21,625 --> 00:17:24,920
- Phillips was a very diligent...
- 255
- 00:17:26,171 --> 00:17:28,632
- ...and professional captain.
- 256
- 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,179
- And in the end,
- he came to face an enormous challenge.
- 257
- 00:17:35,305 --> 00:17:40,352
- An unimaginable challenge that--
- No U.S. flag carrier...
- 258
- 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,606
- ...had been attacked by pirates
- for 200 years.
- 259
- 00:17:45,106 --> 00:17:49,903
- But through it all, by the end
- of this entire sequence of events...
- 260
- 00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:51,488
- ...thanks to his courage...
- 261
- 00:17:52,906 --> 00:17:55,575
- ...his ship was safe,
- got to Mombasa safely--
- 262
- 00:17:55,784 --> 00:18:00,288
- The crew got to Mombasa
- safely, unhurt...
- 263
- 00:18:00,497 --> 00:18:02,874
- ...and so did his cargo.
- 264
- 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:06,252
- And in that sense,
- he fulfilled the three prime duties...
- 265
- 00:18:06,461 --> 00:18:08,421
- ...of a Merchant Marine captain...
- 266
- 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:11,383
- ...but he did it at risk of his own life.
- 267
- 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,344
- -Watch it, man.
- -Ready with number six.
- 268
- 00:18:14,511 --> 00:18:15,637
- All right.
- 269
- 00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:17,389
- You tied up?
- 270
- 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:20,934
- So here we are
- in the middle of a security drill.
- 271
- 00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,020
- Crew affixed the hoses...
- 272
- 00:18:24,229 --> 00:18:26,898
- ...which are really in the absence
- of any armed guards...
- 273
- 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:30,360
- ...because, of course, in those days,
- armed guards weren't carried...
- 274
- 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:34,322
- ...on Merchant Marine ships
- principally for three reasons.
- 275
- 00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:38,952
- Firstly, you couldn't carry weapons
- into many international ports...
- 276
- 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,162
- ...and secondly...
- 277
- 00:18:42,914 --> 00:18:45,250
- ...shipping companies weren't prepared
- to pay...
- 278
- 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:49,462
- ...the additional costs of security details
- on ships...
- 279
- 00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:51,631
- ...as they do now since these events.
- 280
- 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,551
- And thirdly,
- captains weren't very keen...
- 281
- 00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:59,097
- ...on having weapons onboard,
- you know.
- 282
- 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:02,183
- A Saturday-night dispute onboard
- being settled with firearms...
- 283
- 00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:04,519
- ...wouldn't have been their choice.
- 284
- 00:19:05,770 --> 00:19:08,189
- But it left, of course, these ships...
- 285
- 00:19:08,398 --> 00:19:11,401
- ...perilously vulnerable
- on the high seas...
- 286
- 00:19:12,235 --> 00:19:15,864
- ...as Phillips discovers now.
- 287
- 00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:18,742
- What's up, Cap? Everything okay?
- 288
- 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:21,119
- I don't like the look of that.
- 289
- 00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:29,419
- This was the first attack,
- we used to call it.
- 290
- 00:19:30,128 --> 00:19:31,588
- The first of two attacks.
- 291
- 00:19:31,796 --> 00:19:33,548
- A long sequence.
- 292
- 00:19:33,757 --> 00:19:37,052
- And the key in sequences like these
- is to sort of....
- 293
- 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:43,475
- Is to be very clear up front
- what the pieces are that you want.
- 294
- 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:46,019
- And you've gotta hone
- and work at it on the page...
- 295
- 00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:49,022
- ...to be sure
- that every single beat is right.
- 296
- 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:53,109
- And then when you shoot it,
- you've got to try and shoot it...
- 297
- 00:19:53,318 --> 00:19:56,696
- ...as freely as you can
- so you get it to live...
- 298
- 00:19:56,905 --> 00:20:01,409
- ...and rather than just be a sequence
- of beats or points.
- 299
- 00:20:02,035 --> 00:20:03,995
- And then...
- 300
- 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:08,792
- ...when that material is shot,
- it goes into the cutting room...
- 301
- 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,505
- ...and I'm lucky enough
- to have one of the world's great editors...
- 302
- 00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:14,798
- ...Christopher Rouse...
- 303
- 00:20:17,634 --> 00:20:20,595
- ...collaborating with me on these films.
- 304
- 00:20:21,012 --> 00:20:22,680
- And the way he puts this together...
- 305
- 00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:24,766
- ...the sense of architecture...
- 306
- 00:20:24,974 --> 00:20:28,895
- ...and the sense of controlled pace...
- 307
- 00:20:29,104 --> 00:20:32,398
- ...the precision of each shot...
- 308
- 00:20:33,983 --> 00:20:37,487
- ...is a master class in editing, I think,
- and storytelling.
- 309
- 00:20:42,117 --> 00:20:44,160
- Now get me U.S. Maritime Emergency.
- 310
- 00:20:44,327 --> 00:20:46,746
- And a lot of the things
- that are being set up here...
- 311
- 00:20:46,955 --> 00:20:50,375
- ...of course, are common
- to the second attack.
- 312
- 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,670
- You've got to understand
- how the ship works...
- 313
- 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:56,339
- ...what the control surfaces
- and choices are...
- 314
- 00:20:56,548 --> 00:20:58,967
- ...that are available to the captain...
- 315
- 00:21:01,386 --> 00:21:03,763
- ...if you're to make an assessment
- as an audience...
- 316
- 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,141
- ...as to the vulnerability
- of their situation.
- 317
- 00:21:06,349 --> 00:21:08,184
- And the more you understand it...
- 318
- 00:21:08,393 --> 00:21:12,355
- ...the more you engage
- with the scenario.
- 319
- 00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:15,233
- And I think...
- 320
- 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:19,487
- ...you feel...
- 321
- 00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:22,991
- ...in this performance
- from Tom Hanks...
- 322
- 00:21:24,242 --> 00:21:29,539
- ...the absolute concentration he has
- in dealing with this unfolding crisis...
- 323
- 00:21:30,999 --> 00:21:33,001
- ...in a very, very believable way.
- 324
- 00:21:33,835 --> 00:21:35,962
- --with a possible mothership following.
- 325
- 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,798
- -Potential piracy situation.
- -Copy, Alabama.
- 326
- 00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:41,759
- Alert your crew,
- get your fire hoses ready...
- 327
- 00:21:41,926 --> 00:21:44,053
- ...and follow lockdown procedures.
- 328
- 00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:46,764
- Yeah. Is that it?
- 329
- 00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:49,309
- This is a scene
- that if you wrote it as fiction...
- 330
- 00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:51,352
- ...no one would believe you.
- 331
- 00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:53,438
- The difference is, it actually happened.
- 332
- 00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:56,316
- The more that he reached out...
- 333
- 00:21:56,524 --> 00:21:57,901
- ...to the emergency numbers...
- 334
- 00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,653
- ...the less help he had.
- 335
- 00:22:00,862 --> 00:22:03,865
- The more you realize something
- important in this film, I think...
- 336
- 00:22:04,073 --> 00:22:07,827
- ...which is that unlike the movie world
- where with--
- 337
- 00:22:08,036 --> 00:22:11,498
- We're led to believe so often
- that help can be summoned up...
- 338
- 00:22:11,706 --> 00:22:13,458
- ...in a phone call, you know...
- 339
- 00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:18,671
- ...that actually,
- if you're a container ship...
- 340
- 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,633
- ...thousands of miles away
- in the middle of the ocean...
- 341
- 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:24,552
- ...there's nothing anybody can do.
- You're on your own.
- 342
- 00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:32,977
- Now we get a sight of Muse
- coming towards the vessel.
- 343
- 00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:36,940
- He and his rival, Asad...
- 344
- 00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:41,110
- ...riding what looked
- like modern chariots.
- 345
- 00:22:41,444 --> 00:22:43,988
- Very, very hard to get those shots.
- 346
- 00:22:45,073 --> 00:22:46,699
- Hard from a safety point of view--
- 347
- 00:22:46,908 --> 00:22:50,745
- Very hard for all the actors in the skiffs
- to keep their balance...
- 348
- 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:53,373
- ...in those immense seas,
- but very, very hard for us.
- 349
- 00:22:53,581 --> 00:22:59,128
- We had to use a crane
- on a cantilevered arm...
- 350
- 00:23:00,088 --> 00:23:04,050
- ...to keep it steady enough
- to get these shots.
- 351
- 00:23:04,259 --> 00:23:06,177
- They're remarkable
- and you really feel...
- 352
- 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:08,680
- ...the weight of water...
- 353
- 00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:11,724
- ...and the power...
- 354
- 00:23:14,102 --> 00:23:17,105
- ...of the skiff through the--
- Through the swell.
- 355
- 00:23:24,988 --> 00:23:27,740
- Another moment. I remember
- reading Richard Phillips' book...
- 356
- 00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:33,788
- ...when he gave the account
- of making the fake emergency call.
- 357
- 00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:36,332
- Again, one of those moments
- in the story...
- 358
- 00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:40,461
- ...where I thought, if you made that up,
- no one would believe you. It's such a....
- 359
- 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:44,465
- An outrageous maneuver.
- 360
- 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:46,134
- But he did do it.
- 361
- 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:48,094
- And as you see, it almost worked.
- 362
- 00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:51,347
- Our speed is 18.5 knots.
- 363
- 00:23:51,556 --> 00:23:54,309
- We are being approached
- by two pirate skiffs--
- 364
- 00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:55,518
- The good thing is...
- 365
- 00:23:57,020 --> 00:24:00,440
- ...you're starting to build connectivity
- between the characters...
- 366
- 00:24:00,648 --> 00:24:02,567
- ...between Phillips and Muse...
- 367
- 00:24:03,234 --> 00:24:05,320
- ...between Muse and Asad...
- 368
- 00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:07,947
- ...and between Muse and Asad
- and the mothership.
- 369
- 00:24:08,156 --> 00:24:12,201
- So your audience is clear all the time
- about who the protagonists are...
- 370
- 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:14,871
- ...where they are, and what's occurring.
- 371
- 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:19,876
- And the truth of any action sequence is:
- 372
- 00:24:21,461 --> 00:24:25,089
- The clearer you are about the characters
- and what they want...
- 373
- 00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:28,509
- ...the clearer you are
- about the relationships between them...
- 374
- 00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:34,015
- ...the clearer you are
- about the physical spaces they inhabit...
- 375
- 00:24:34,223 --> 00:24:40,063
- ...and the more precision you can give
- each move and countermove--
- 376
- 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:43,524
- Each detail in the unfolding story.
- 377
- 00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:46,527
- --the better your action will be.
- 378
- 00:24:46,736 --> 00:24:50,323
- It's a great mistake, in my view,
- to create generality...
- 379
- 00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:51,991
- ...in an action sequence.
- 380
- 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,826
- Come on! Keep going!
- 381
- 00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:59,457
- Cutting very fast
- and waving the camera...
- 382
- 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:03,628
- ...does not give you true engagement
- as an audience.
- 383
- 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,964
- Only precision and detail...
- 384
- 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:12,178
- ...painstakingly put together
- in the right order...
- 385
- 00:25:12,387 --> 00:25:17,517
- ...so that you feel an overall
- building architecture in the sequence--
- 386
- 00:25:17,725 --> 00:25:20,812
- That's what gives you great action,
- in my view.
- 387
- 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,694
- So now we see the....
- 388
- 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:34,659
- The great advantage
- that the modern container ship has.
- 389
- 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:37,537
- And you can say it in one word.
- It's power.
- 390
- 00:25:39,831 --> 00:25:43,543
- Those enormous--
- The thrust of those enormous engines...
- 391
- 00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:45,169
- ...powering them forward...
- 392
- 00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:49,590
- ...creating an enormous wake...
- 393
- 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:54,929
- ...that it's very hard for the skiffs
- to get through.
- 394
- 00:25:57,181 --> 00:26:03,771
- And in the end,
- when engine is pitted against engine in--
- 395
- 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:05,523
- As it is in this sequence...
- 396
- 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,733
- ...there's really only gonna be
- one winner.
- 397
- 00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:24,417
- Because at this stage
- in this sequence now...
- 398
- 00:26:24,959 --> 00:26:27,670
- ...we finally got Phillips and Muse...
- 399
- 00:26:27,879 --> 00:26:30,006
- ...in a relationship with each other...
- 400
- 00:26:31,174 --> 00:26:32,550
- ...where they're locked up...
- 401
- 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:38,848
- ...and that leads to this moment
- through the binoculars coming up...
- 402
- 00:26:39,056 --> 00:26:43,811
- ...which obviously is a profound stage
- in their relationship.
- 403
- 00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:46,481
- It's the point in their relationship...
- 404
- 00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:48,816
- ...where both have seen each other.
- 405
- 00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:57,950
- And, of course, we know
- that they'll meet again.
- 406
- 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,623
- But for the moment...
- 407
- 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:07,293
- ...first round to Captain Phillips.
- 408
- 00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:15,176
- And again,
- you get those brass chords...
- 409
- 00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,262
- ...which are beautifully judged
- by Henry.
- 410
- 00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:21,390
- Alternately reassuring...
- 411
- 00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:24,101
- ...and disquieting.
- 412
- 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,396
- Complete paradox,
- complete contradiction.
- 413
- 00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:29,774
- But it's the way that score works.
- 414
- 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:33,361
- It offers you both at various times.
- 415
- 00:27:33,528 --> 00:27:35,655
- --both with armed intruders.
- 416
- 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:40,535
- Now, we all know that's a hazard
- in these waters, but you performed well.
- 417
- 00:27:41,953 --> 00:27:44,038
- This was an important scene
- in the film...
- 418
- 00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:48,334
- ...when Phillips talks to his crew.
- 419
- 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,339
- And we can feel...
- 420
- 00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:58,219
- ...how each reacts to what's occurred.
- 421
- 00:28:00,263 --> 00:28:03,432
- How do you deal with the fact
- that you've been attacked by pirates...
- 422
- 00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:06,936
- ...when you're thousands of miles
- from any safety?
- 423
- 00:28:07,103 --> 00:28:08,479
- Cap.
- 424
- 00:28:10,523 --> 00:28:11,649
- They're coming back.
- 425
- 00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:14,527
- Amen. Yeah, that's right.
- They're coming back.
- 426
- 00:28:14,694 --> 00:28:18,322
- If they come back,
- we'll follow procedure.
- 427
- 00:28:18,489 --> 00:28:21,742
- We know when we see Phillips there
- that he knows that too.
- 428
- 00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:27,748
- We will follow the procedures even if
- we have to shut down, lock down...
- 429
- 00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:29,750
- ...go dead in the water
- and wait for help.
- 430
- 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:33,337
- It's interesting this--
- That was the state of mind...
- 431
- 00:28:33,546 --> 00:28:36,757
- ...both of Merchant Marine crews...
- 432
- 00:28:36,966 --> 00:28:39,010
- ...and captains,
- and also shipping companies.
- 433
- 00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:43,681
- They believed that ships
- with a freeboard--
- 434
- 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:46,726
- That's to say a distance
- from ocean to deck...
- 435
- 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:48,436
- ...of greater than 15 feet...
- 436
- 00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:51,439
- ...and a speed through the water
- of greater than 15 knots...
- 437
- 00:28:51,647 --> 00:28:53,399
- ...both of which Maersk Alabama had.
- 438
- 00:28:53,608 --> 00:28:56,861
- In other words, it was believed
- that the biggest container ships...
- 439
- 00:28:57,445 --> 00:29:00,281
- ...were not able to be attacked
- by pirates...
- 440
- 00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:05,286
- ...that they would prefer to go for tankers
- that were lower in the water, small--
- 441
- 00:29:05,494 --> 00:29:08,456
- Particularly smaller ones
- that didn't have very much speed.
- 442
- 00:29:10,791 --> 00:29:14,503
- And here, Phillips articulates
- the central difficulty.
- 443
- 00:29:14,712 --> 00:29:17,715
- There is no safe place to go.
- There is no running away.
- 444
- 00:29:20,343 --> 00:29:22,720
- In the months
- before this particular attack...
- 445
- 00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:25,890
- ...pirate attacks were recorded
- in the Indian Ocean...
- 446
- 00:29:26,057 --> 00:29:29,185
- ...as far as 1200 miles
- from the Somali coast...
- 447
- 00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:32,021
- ...because they had these
- motherships...
- 448
- 00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:36,567
- ...that they used to carry the skiffs out
- hundreds and thousands of miles...
- 449
- 00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:41,364
- ...out into the ocean
- to look for unsuspecting shipping.
- 450
- 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:57,838
- I just wanted to remind the audience...
- 451
- 00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:01,717
- ...that Phillips had a life
- beyond the ship.
- 452
- 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,512
- A wife, a family.
- 453
- 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:06,931
- And also...
- 454
- 00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,891
- ...that he was doing...
- 455
- 00:30:09,225 --> 00:30:12,979
- ...what I think all Merchant Marine
- captains would do...
- 456
- 00:30:13,187 --> 00:30:18,943
- ...which is to keep their anxieties
- well away from their family.
- 457
- 00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:24,615
- Hufan, I'm telling you,
- our boat couldn't take it.
- 458
- 00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:29,787
- Now, we cut back to the inquest
- on the pirate mothership.
- 459
- 00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:33,624
- And we start to learn something
- about Asad.
- 460
- 00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:35,251
- What we know, of course...
- 461
- 00:30:35,459 --> 00:30:39,964
- ...and Muse knows that Asad bailed
- in the attack.
- 462
- 00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:43,509
- So he's giving his excuses early...
- 463
- 00:30:43,968 --> 00:30:49,223
- ...whereas young Muse is only interested
- in trying to get a larger ladder...
- 464
- 00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:52,101
- ...and more power to the engine.
- 465
- 00:30:53,394 --> 00:30:56,814
- He's seen the big prize...
- 466
- 00:30:57,148 --> 00:30:59,191
- ...and we know he's determined
- to get it.
- 467
- 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,987
- But first, he has to deal with his rival.
- 468
- 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:10,286
- Shut up, Skinny. You talk too much.
- 469
- 00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:13,748
- I may be skinny, but I'm not a coward.
- 470
- 00:31:20,421 --> 00:31:22,673
- Muse's nickname...
- 471
- 00:31:22,882 --> 00:31:25,384
- ...was Skinny Rat or Skinny.
- 472
- 00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:31,474
- I loved it as a piece of detail
- and so did Barkhad Abdi.
- 473
- 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:34,393
- And he used it...
- 474
- 00:31:35,936 --> 00:31:38,856
- ...to build this particular moment
- when he's--
- 475
- 00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:41,734
- Stands up for himself
- and becomes formidable.
- 476
- 00:31:46,197 --> 00:31:50,409
- We know in this moment
- that Phillips has a real adversary.
- 477
- 00:31:53,954 --> 00:31:56,290
- One of the other important decisions
- in our film...
- 478
- 00:31:56,499 --> 00:32:01,295
- ...was to cast young Somali actors
- to play the parts of the--
- 479
- 00:32:01,504 --> 00:32:03,631
- Of all the pirates, in fact.
- 480
- 00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,842
- We found those actors....
- 481
- 00:32:07,802 --> 00:32:11,680
- Well, a lot of the smaller parts
- were found in the U.K.
- 482
- 00:32:11,889 --> 00:32:15,017
- But the four principal pirates
- were found in Minneapolis...
- 483
- 00:32:15,226 --> 00:32:18,854
- ...which is the largest
- Somali community in the U.S.
- 484
- 00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:24,276
- Obviously, there's no Somali acting
- community in Los Angeles or New York.
- 485
- 00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:26,529
- And Francine Maisler,
- our casting director...
- 486
- 00:32:26,737 --> 00:32:32,660
- ...and her colleagues
- really had the job of finding them.
- 487
- 00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:34,954
- And when they went there...
- 488
- 00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:38,958
- ...they found that that community
- was rich and vibrant...
- 489
- 00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:44,421
- ...filled with storytellers and musicians
- and writers and actors.
- 490
- 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:48,759
- And we were very lucky to have
- these four young men play the parts.
- 491
- 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:50,845
- -Where are they?
- -Port quarter.
- 492
- 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,721
- One-point-seven miles, captain.
- 493
- 00:32:54,098 --> 00:32:56,976
- So now we begin the second attack.
- 494
- 00:32:57,184 --> 00:32:59,854
- And the trick here
- is to step the pace up...
- 495
- 00:33:00,062 --> 00:33:03,816
- ...so you feel that
- the throttle of the film...
- 496
- 00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:08,654
- ...has just been pressed down
- a little more.
- 497
- 00:33:11,699 --> 00:33:17,121
- And I think it's at this stage in the film
- that I always feel...
- 498
- 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:20,124
- ...that Tom's performance...
- 499
- 00:33:21,709 --> 00:33:25,921
- ...starts to really
- completely dominate the film.
- 500
- 00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:28,257
- I want max revs. Take the limits off.
- 501
- 00:33:28,424 --> 00:33:34,722
- You feel that somewhere in his eyes
- is a kind of existential fear.
- 502
- 00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:40,477
- It's not really just about
- skiffs taking over the ships.
- 503
- 00:33:42,563 --> 00:33:47,151
- It's some unimaginable crisis
- that he's facing.
- 504
- 00:33:48,819 --> 00:33:55,075
- And, of course,
- that sense of crisis drives the film.
- 505
- 00:33:55,242 --> 00:33:57,202
- U.S. Maritime Emergency line.
- 506
- 00:33:58,203 --> 00:34:01,665
- This is the Maersk Alabama.
- We are under pirate attack at a....
- 507
- 00:34:01,832 --> 00:34:04,585
- -What's happening?
- -Ken, get out here.
- 508
- 00:34:04,793 --> 00:34:07,796
- -I need eyes on the wing. Skiff coming in.
- -I'm on it.
- 509
- 00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:12,384
- Now, it's become one tiny skiff
- versus one large ship.
- 510
- 00:34:12,801 --> 00:34:14,845
- And we're going
- through those same gears...
- 511
- 00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:17,640
- ...that we went through in first attack,
- but--
- 512
- 00:34:17,848 --> 00:34:21,477
- But quicker, with more urgency.
- 513
- 00:34:21,685 --> 00:34:24,188
- More sense of desperation
- under the surface.
- 514
- 00:34:26,273 --> 00:34:29,860
- Somali coast guard.
- This is a routine check.
- 515
- 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:31,904
- The score here is very, very clever.
- 516
- 00:34:32,112 --> 00:34:37,701
- It's mixing pulse and tempo,
- which is perfectly judged, incidentally...
- 517
- 00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:41,330
- ...and the sort of plangent brass...
- 518
- 00:34:42,623 --> 00:34:48,045
- ...lines that, as I say,
- are both comforting...
- 519
- 00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:51,382
- ...and disquieting all at the same time.
- 520
- 00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:53,842
- Are they consolation
- or are they warning?
- 521
- 00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:59,181
- Very, very skillful scoring here
- by Henry Jackman.
- 522
- 00:35:00,641 --> 00:35:02,017
- Stop the ship.
- 523
- 00:35:03,769 --> 00:35:06,313
- They're not stopping.
- 524
- 00:35:07,064 --> 00:35:08,983
- Show them who we are, Muse.
- 525
- 00:35:12,111 --> 00:35:13,904
- Shoot at them!
- 526
- 00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:20,536
- Shots fired! Shots fired! Hit the hoses.
- 527
- 00:35:20,703 --> 00:35:23,956
- Fateful moment in our story
- when the shots are first fired.
- 528
- 00:35:24,999 --> 00:35:28,002
- Obviously, the pace kicks up again.
- 529
- 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,254
- Turn!
- 530
- 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:35,759
- Now we see Phillips deploy,
- really, the--
- 531
- 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:38,220
- The last line of defense.
- 532
- 00:35:38,429 --> 00:35:44,768
- The sea hoses that can be used
- to stop a small skiff getting alongside.
- 533
- 00:35:51,859 --> 00:35:55,362
- I love the visual--
- The visuals of this film.
- 534
- 00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:58,949
- From first moment really,
- when thinking about it...
- 535
- 00:35:59,158 --> 00:36:04,288
- ...I loved the idea of the perfect
- symmetry of the first half of the film...
- 536
- 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:10,711
- ...being about a large container ship
- being chased by a very small skiff...
- 537
- 00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:14,882
- ...and the large container ship
- throwing out these hoses...
- 538
- 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:19,636
- ...and the relationship between the craft
- and the water and the cargo.
- 539
- 00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:23,474
- This all felt very visually interesting.
- Then the second half of the film...
- 540
- 00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,434
- ...being a complete mirror opposite.
- 541
- 00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:29,813
- A tiny lifeboat chased
- by these enormous warships.
- 542
- 00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:38,322
- This was a very complicated sequence
- to plan and shoot.
- 543
- 00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:43,160
- There were a lot of safety issues
- involved with bringing skiffs...
- 544
- 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:46,663
- ...up-close
- to a speeding container ship.
- 545
- 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:50,918
- Obviously, the undertow from one
- of those container ships is lethal.
- 546
- 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,547
- There were a lot of issues
- with safe distances...
- 547
- 00:36:55,756 --> 00:36:59,051
- ...and trying to make sure
- we could do what we needed to.
- 548
- 00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:05,682
- Marrying up all these different pieces
- and the geography of the skiffs...
- 549
- 00:37:05,891 --> 00:37:09,395
- ...and the firing of the-- Of the flare...
- 550
- 00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:13,357
- ...all involved an awful lot of planning.
- 551
- 00:37:17,778 --> 00:37:20,989
- But these four young actors
- were very, very game.
- 552
- 00:37:21,198 --> 00:37:23,200
- It was no joke to be out
- in those skiffs...
- 553
- 00:37:23,409 --> 00:37:26,745
- ...in the middle of swell
- and not wearing much, incidentally...
- 554
- 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:32,501
- ...for hour after hour after hour,
- day after day after day.
- 555
- 00:37:32,709 --> 00:37:35,337
- It was a considerable feat
- of physical endurance...
- 556
- 00:37:35,546 --> 00:37:38,799
- ...and also of seamanship too.
- They had several months of training...
- 557
- 00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:42,845
- ...to be able to, you know,
- drive those skiffs effectively.
- 558
- 00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:48,267
- All crew! All crew!
- 559
- 00:37:48,434 --> 00:37:51,228
- All crew to the engine room!
- All crew to the engine room now!
- 560
- 00:37:51,395 --> 00:37:53,564
- Well, actually,
- they were incredibly game. It--
- 561
- 00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:56,900
- Most of our time was spent
- trying to stop them...
- 562
- 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,112
- ...doing things
- that wouldn't have been safe.
- 563
- 00:38:01,822 --> 00:38:07,703
- They were fantastically determined
- and fantastically hardworking.
- 564
- 00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:11,874
- -Port, 30 degrees.
- -Port, 30 degrees.
- 565
- 00:38:15,294 --> 00:38:19,965
- So now we're at the end
- of the second attack.
- 566
- 00:38:20,591 --> 00:38:23,927
- I think Phillips knows it's--
- Time is running out.
- 567
- 00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,307
- He tries to turn--
- Twist and turn the ship...
- 568
- 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:33,145
- ...to create an impact
- that can throw them off.
- 569
- 00:38:33,687 --> 00:38:36,356
- But, of course,
- the guys who drive these skiffs...
- 570
- 00:38:36,565 --> 00:38:39,193
- ...are very, very skillful...
- 571
- 00:38:39,401 --> 00:38:44,990
- ...at navigating the undertow
- and the swell and the hoses...
- 572
- 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:50,287
- ...and keeping the skiff there
- just long enough to get onboard.
- 573
- 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:55,626
- But even so, it's a--
- 574
- 00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:58,962
- It's a very, very dangerous game.
- 575
- 00:38:59,171 --> 00:39:02,758
- One slip and you're under that ship
- and dead.
- 576
- 00:39:08,263 --> 00:39:10,891
- -Starboard, 30 degrees.
- -Starboard, 30.
- 577
- 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:17,814
- I love the way Tom sells...
- 578
- 00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:23,445
- ...the sense of dread,
- the sense of confusion.
- 579
- 00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:28,075
- Because he suddenly realizes
- that his ship has been taken.
- 580
- 00:39:28,784 --> 00:39:30,577
- -Cronan. Cronan.
- -Yeah.
- 581
- 00:39:31,912 --> 00:39:35,874
- The crew are taken down
- to the engine control room.
- 582
- 00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:40,629
- Head count, and they're gonna try
- and hide them down in the engine room.
- 583
- 00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:43,173
- Meanwhile,
- the chief engineer, Mike Perry...
- 584
- 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:49,179
- ...acting with fantastic professionalism
- and dedication...
- 585
- 00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:55,310
- ...is ensuring that the ship's engines
- are turned off, disabling the ship.
- 586
- 00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:00,440
- The roles played by the crew--
- 587
- 00:40:00,649 --> 00:40:05,153
- One of the things I wanted to do
- in this film was to pay proper regard...
- 588
- 00:40:05,362 --> 00:40:08,782
- ...to the way that the crew,
- independently of Phillips...
- 589
- 00:40:08,991 --> 00:40:15,497
- ...worked towards the successful
- resolution of this hosta-- Crisis.
- 590
- 00:40:16,248 --> 00:40:17,958
- They weren't just passive bystanders.
- 591
- 00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:21,545
- They worked together
- and exhibited great courage...
- 592
- 00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:25,132
- ...and particularly, I think,
- Shane Murphy and Mike Perry.
- 593
- 00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:28,343
- But they all did. They all did.
- 594
- 00:40:32,014 --> 00:40:33,849
- Jesus.
- 595
- 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:37,311
- If the pirates find you, remember,
- you know the ship.
- 596
- 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:40,689
- So now we're waiting
- for the confrontation.
- 597
- 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,359
- We'd been shooting quite a while
- when we shot this...
- 598
- 00:40:44,568 --> 00:40:48,196
- ...but it was always my intention to
- keep Tom away from the four pirates...
- 599
- 00:40:48,405 --> 00:40:50,490
- ...away from Barkhad, so that they--
- 600
- 00:40:50,699 --> 00:40:52,868
- The moment they would first
- see each other...
- 601
- 00:40:53,076 --> 00:40:55,120
- ...was the moment they came
- through the door.
- 602
- 00:40:55,329 --> 00:40:57,414
- They knew of each other,
- knew they were there.
- 603
- 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,666
- We kept them in separate parts
- of the ship.
- 604
- 00:40:59,875 --> 00:41:02,044
- We rehearsed this scene separately...
- 605
- 00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:08,216
- ...and then this take
- was literally the first time they met.
- 606
- 00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:16,141
- And it gave it a sense of drama
- and a sense of anticipation...
- 607
- 00:41:16,350 --> 00:41:18,560
- ...that it might not otherwise have had.
- 608
- 00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:26,985
- -Hey! Don't move! Don't move!
- -Okay, okay.
- 609
- 00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:30,030
- -Don't move, I said! Don't move!
- -All right. All right.
- 610
- 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:34,117
- When you cast
- four young unknown actors...
- 611
- 00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:35,869
- Don't move! We have four!
- 612
- 00:41:36,078 --> 00:41:39,206
- ...starting on their careers
- for the first time...
- 613
- 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:42,250
- ...you never know how it's gonna go...
- 614
- 00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:46,213
- ...until you actually see them
- face-to-face.
- 615
- 00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:50,759
- Here is the moment when a young actor
- Barkhad Abdi comes face-to-face...
- 616
- 00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:55,389
- ...with two-time Academy Award-winner
- Tom Hanks.
- 617
- 00:41:55,722 --> 00:42:01,436
- Can he do it?
- Has he got the desire and the ability...
- 618
- 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:03,271
- ...to dominate Tom?
- 619
- 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,732
- That was the question in my mind.
- 620
- 00:42:05,941 --> 00:42:07,609
- And I suspect in Tom's too.
- 621
- 00:42:08,151 --> 00:42:10,904
- When we get paid,
- everything gonna be okay.
- 622
- 00:42:11,113 --> 00:42:14,658
- But you could tell,
- as soon as this scene started...
- 623
- 00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:18,662
- ...that he was determined...
- 624
- 00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:25,252
- ...to give Tom
- a complete run for his money.
- 625
- 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,214
- To be his equal on-screen.
- 626
- 00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:35,679
- To be the thing you most want
- in a film.
- 627
- 00:42:36,054 --> 00:42:39,766
- To be a formidable adversary.
- 628
- 00:42:41,143 --> 00:42:45,856
- It's a remarkable piece of acting
- by a young man from Minneapolis...
- 629
- 00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:48,692
- ...who had never acted before,
- professionally.
- 630
- 00:42:48,859 --> 00:42:50,861
- TV and car--? No, no.
- We just got the food--
- 631
- 00:42:51,027 --> 00:42:52,737
- Dollars?
- 632
- 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,908
- We do. Kenny?
- Kenny, what do we have in the safe?
- 633
- 00:42:57,075 --> 00:43:02,164
- The way he laces the performance
- with humor and self-doubt.
- 634
- 00:43:02,622 --> 00:43:07,752
- He will let any one moment
- to be incredibly menacing...
- 635
- 00:43:07,961 --> 00:43:13,008
- ...but also oddly vulnerable.
- 636
- 00:43:19,347 --> 00:43:21,391
- What's that?
- 637
- 00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:26,438
- It's all right.
- 638
- 00:43:26,605 --> 00:43:28,940
- Hey, calm down! Calm down.
- 639
- 00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:31,234
- Get back there.
- 640
- 00:43:31,401 --> 00:43:34,488
- So this sequence really begins the--
- 641
- 00:43:34,696 --> 00:43:39,034
- The section of the film that deals
- with what happened in that first day...
- 642
- 00:43:39,242 --> 00:43:40,785
- ...when the pirates got onboard.
- 643
- 00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:43,997
- Phillips was up on the--
- 644
- 00:43:45,415 --> 00:43:49,628
- On the control, on the bridge,
- with a couple of crew members...
- 645
- 00:43:50,045 --> 00:43:52,923
- ...and the crew were hiding down below
- in the engine room.
- 646
- 00:43:54,216 --> 00:43:59,930
- And the problem the pirates had was
- they needed to get the rest of the crew.
- 647
- 00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:05,227
- Phillips was determined that the pirates
- would not get any more hostages.
- 648
- 00:44:07,646 --> 00:44:08,980
- Watch this ugly one.
- 649
- 00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:20,367
- What are you doing?
- 650
- 00:44:20,534 --> 00:44:22,744
- I'm going to fix it.
- 651
- 00:44:23,537 --> 00:44:27,249
- I like this part of the scene
- because it's asking the question:
- 652
- 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,674
- How much does a young Somali
- pirate captain understand...
- 653
- 00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:40,053
- ...a sophisticated
- modern container ship?
- 654
- 00:44:41,638 --> 00:44:43,223
- The answer is not very much.
- 655
- 00:44:44,808 --> 00:44:49,813
- But out of that, you start to develop
- the relationship between Muse...
- 656
- 00:44:50,856 --> 00:44:52,148
- Where is the crew?
- 657
- 00:44:52,357 --> 00:44:54,859
- I don't know. I don't know.
- I'm here with you.
- 658
- 00:44:55,735 --> 00:44:56,862
- ...and Najee.
- 659
- 00:44:59,406 --> 00:45:02,242
- And that relationship, that...
- 660
- 00:45:02,868 --> 00:45:08,081
- ...test of strength between the two
- of them that goes on alongside the--
- 661
- 00:45:08,290 --> 00:45:11,042
- The battle
- between Phillips and Muse...
- 662
- 00:45:12,586 --> 00:45:16,423
- ...is what comes to dominate
- the second half of the film.
- 663
- 00:45:18,258 --> 00:45:21,177
- Another minute, I kill somebody.
- 664
- 00:45:21,636 --> 00:45:25,223
- I kill all your friends. One minute.
- 665
- 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,475
- I will no call again.
- 666
- 00:45:30,312 --> 00:45:33,273
- Get that one
- and put him against the wall.
- 667
- 00:45:33,857 --> 00:45:35,692
- -I'm trying--
- -You think we playing?
- 668
- 00:45:35,859 --> 00:45:38,278
- -No, I'm doing the best--
- -No play. No play.
- 669
- 00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:43,199
- These must have been
- desperate moments...
- 670
- 00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:45,702
- ...on the bridge and in the engine room.
- 671
- 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:47,579
- -Come on.
- -You play? You play?
- 672
- 00:45:47,746 --> 00:45:48,788
- Who was to know...
- 673
- 00:45:50,665 --> 00:45:53,960
- ...whether someone wasn't gonna get
- a bullet in the head very soon?
- 674
- 00:45:54,711 --> 00:45:57,088
- In a sense, there was no right
- or wrong thing to do.
- 675
- 00:45:57,297 --> 00:46:00,842
- To disclose where the crew were
- might have made things worse.
- 676
- 00:46:01,051 --> 00:46:04,179
- Not to disclose the crew
- might have made things worse.
- 677
- 00:46:04,387 --> 00:46:08,808
- It was the terrible choices...
- 678
- 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,228
- ...that people had to make that day.
- 679
- 00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:13,647
- -You killing him.
- -It's my ship.
- 680
- 00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:15,815
- -Listen to me.
- -You killing him.
- 681
- 00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:17,776
- I'm the captain.
- 682
- 00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,110
- But I think the--
- 683
- 00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:22,364
- The acting in this scene...
- 684
- 00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:28,453
- ...the company of actors
- inhabiting, totally, this situation...
- 685
- 00:46:29,704 --> 00:46:30,914
- ...I think, is exemplary.
- 686
- 00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:33,458
- Corey Johnson there
- with the gun to his head.
- 687
- 00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:36,961
- He's done a number of films with me.
- 688
- 00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:38,797
- Always...
- 689
- 00:46:39,881 --> 00:46:46,680
- ...always absolutely beautifully accurate
- in everything he does, and human.
- 690
- 00:46:53,103 --> 00:46:55,021
- I want to search the ship.
- 691
- 00:46:56,564 --> 00:46:59,776
- One of the things I tried to do
- in this film...
- 692
- 00:46:59,985 --> 00:47:04,614
- ...was create a rise and fall, a pitch,
- a sort of--
- 693
- 00:47:07,534 --> 00:47:10,537
- An undulating sense of tension...
- 694
- 00:47:10,954 --> 00:47:13,331
- We better hope
- the emergency power stays on.
- 695
- 00:47:14,708 --> 00:47:19,838
- ...that sort of replicates
- the structure of the ocean itself.
- 696
- 00:47:21,506 --> 00:47:26,094
- And that's driven, of course, ultimately
- by the tension...
- 697
- 00:47:26,302 --> 00:47:28,638
- ...between the two characters,
- Muse and Phillips...
- 698
- 00:47:28,847 --> 00:47:32,976
- ...but also the tension
- within the pirates...
- 699
- 00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:37,063
- ...as the pitch of panic and--
- 700
- 00:47:37,272 --> 00:47:39,065
- And relaxation ebbs and flows.
- 701
- 00:47:41,234 --> 00:47:44,612
- And capturing that in the right way...
- 702
- 00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:49,868
- ...so that you can vary the pace
- in the film...
- 703
- 00:47:50,952 --> 00:47:55,039
- ...dominated a lot of my thinking
- in the run-up to the film.
- 704
- 00:47:55,248 --> 00:47:58,918
- I'm gonna go to the mess, get water.
- Get everyone on the lower level.
- 705
- 00:47:59,085 --> 00:48:00,879
- All right. I'm on 2.
- 706
- 00:48:09,012 --> 00:48:11,848
- There's Henry's brass chord again...
- 707
- 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,726
- ...just anchoring you...
- 708
- 00:48:18,188 --> 00:48:21,566
- ...keeping the humanity
- of the piece alive.
- 709
- 00:48:22,984 --> 00:48:25,153
- Early on, we experimented...
- 710
- 00:48:25,361 --> 00:48:28,531
- ...with more electronic versions
- of the score, but--
- 711
- 00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:33,244
- But I think we all agreed that the--
- 712
- 00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:36,372
- You know...
- 713
- 00:48:36,956 --> 00:48:42,128
- ...the human-scale instruments,
- brass and wood...
- 714
- 00:48:42,545 --> 00:48:44,464
- ...and cello...
- 715
- 00:48:46,132 --> 00:48:47,967
- ...were where the score needs to sit...
- 716
- 00:48:48,176 --> 00:48:51,346
- ...and that's ultimately the direction
- we went in.
- 717
- 00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:58,228
- This is a very important scene...
- 718
- 00:48:58,436 --> 00:49:02,440
- ...as the relationship
- between Phillips and Muse develops...
- 719
- 00:49:03,775 --> 00:49:07,153
- ...and as you realize
- that each is lying to the other...
- 720
- 00:49:08,363 --> 00:49:10,698
- ...and each knows it.
- 721
- 00:49:10,907 --> 00:49:14,702
- And that's a difficult story
- for an actor to tell.
- 722
- 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:18,748
- --we're working our way down,
- so we should try the cargo deck.
- 723
- 00:49:19,332 --> 00:49:23,878
- You don't want to signpost it too much,
- but it's got to be there.
- 724
- 00:49:24,087 --> 00:49:26,131
- And I really think...
- 725
- 00:49:26,923 --> 00:49:31,427
- ...that you start to really engage now
- in this scene with the--
- 726
- 00:49:31,636 --> 00:49:34,639
- With the battle of wits
- between each character.
- 727
- 00:49:34,806 --> 00:49:37,559
- Maybe we should get some water
- from the mess down on A deck?
- 728
- 00:49:42,313 --> 00:49:45,567
- -Then engine room. Go.
- -Okay.
- 729
- 00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:49,654
- He knows that he's lying
- but he doesn't quite know how.
- 730
- 00:49:57,287 --> 00:49:59,164
- This is A deck.
- 731
- 00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:04,252
- Meanwhile, Shane Murphy
- is coming down to look after the crew.
- 732
- 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:10,383
- Shane Murphy moved around the ship
- a lot during those hours...
- 733
- 00:50:10,758 --> 00:50:12,844
- ...with great courage
- and risk to himself...
- 734
- 00:50:15,013 --> 00:50:18,641
- ...to look after his crew
- and try and find out what was going on.
- 735
- 00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:23,563
- Obviously,
- we've gotta compress the story...
- 736
- 00:50:23,771 --> 00:50:25,190
- ...into two hours.
- 737
- 00:50:25,398 --> 00:50:29,736
- When, in fact, this part of the story
- went on for some eight or 10 hours.
- 738
- 00:50:29,944 --> 00:50:32,530
- But I think we're very true
- to the central things...
- 739
- 00:50:32,739 --> 00:50:37,160
- ...that Perry and Murphy and the crew
- are trying their best...
- 740
- 00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:42,665
- ...to work independently
- towards a resolution.
- 741
- 00:50:42,874 --> 00:50:44,876
- As is Phillips.
- 742
- 00:50:45,043 --> 00:50:46,294
- It's a vegetable room.
- 743
- 00:50:47,629 --> 00:50:50,632
- And, again,
- this is one of those moments that...
- 744
- 00:50:51,341 --> 00:50:53,468
- ...if you made it up,
- you wouldn't believe.
- 745
- 00:50:55,678 --> 00:51:01,851
- Shane Murphy hiding in the kitchens,
- almost caught by the pirates.
- 746
- 00:51:03,144 --> 00:51:08,316
- Phillips, aware that he's there,
- trying desperately to draw them away.
- 747
- 00:51:11,069 --> 00:51:15,323
- Well, again, it deepens that sense
- between Phillips and Muse.
- 748
- 00:51:17,283 --> 00:51:20,286
- Something is going on between them.
- 749
- 00:51:21,704 --> 00:51:25,166
- Muse knows he's lying
- but he doesn't quite know how.
- 750
- 00:51:26,209 --> 00:51:28,670
- Enough. Engine room.
- 751
- 00:51:28,836 --> 00:51:30,421
- All right.
- 752
- 00:51:50,608 --> 00:51:53,361
- -Cronan. Cronan. Do you read?
- -Yeah, I got you.
- 753
- 00:51:53,528 --> 00:51:56,531
- They're on their way to you.
- They're on their way to you.
- 754
- 00:51:56,698 --> 00:51:57,740
- One is barefoot.
- 755
- 00:51:57,907 --> 00:52:01,536
- Is there glass you can break,
- leave on the floor by the door?
- 756
- 00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:07,959
- Cronan also did tremendous work
- on the crew...
- 757
- 00:52:08,668 --> 00:52:11,421
- ...of helping to thwart the attack.
- 758
- 00:52:16,217 --> 00:52:20,596
- Now, we just musically introduce
- a pulse...
- 759
- 00:52:21,139 --> 00:52:25,601
- ...on that same distressed cello.
- 760
- 00:52:27,937 --> 00:52:32,233
- It's a simple musical palette,
- but I think very effective.
- 761
- 00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:44,871
- Again, Mike Perry's journey that day
- was extremely dangerous.
- 762
- 00:52:45,997 --> 00:52:48,583
- He had to find a way
- of turning off the power...
- 763
- 00:52:49,959 --> 00:52:51,711
- ...of the emergency generator...
- 764
- 00:52:52,962 --> 00:52:56,174
- ...to make it harder for the pirates
- to find the crew.
- 765
- 00:52:57,550 --> 00:53:02,055
- -Who did this?
- -Nobody. It was just a dumb accident.
- 766
- 00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:05,558
- We should get that looked at.
- There's a kit in the control room.
- 767
- 00:53:05,725 --> 00:53:08,644
- Quiet, Irish. You think I am stupid?
- 768
- 00:53:08,811 --> 00:53:10,438
- I know what's going on.
- 769
- 00:53:10,605 --> 00:53:14,859
- We're going to search this whole room.
- All of it. Now go.
- 770
- 00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,445
- Go.
- 771
- 00:53:19,655 --> 00:53:23,159
- A lot of this film involves...
- 772
- 00:53:23,993 --> 00:53:27,413
- ...delaying moments.
- 773
- 00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:29,749
- I think you know with a film like this...
- 774
- 00:53:29,957 --> 00:53:33,336
- ...that it's going to get
- progressively more violent...
- 775
- 00:53:33,544 --> 00:53:36,506
- ...progressively more tense.
- 776
- 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:41,010
- But you need to believably hold it up.
- 777
- 00:53:43,471 --> 00:53:46,808
- I think part of the enjoyment
- of the film...
- 778
- 00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:52,855
- ...is in living those moments
- when it is interrupted.
- 779
- 00:53:53,064 --> 00:53:57,193
- When the conclusion is withheld
- from you.
- 780
- 00:54:00,613 --> 00:54:02,615
- Check the other side.
- 781
- 00:54:02,782 --> 00:54:05,159
- There's no one here.
- 782
- 00:54:05,326 --> 00:54:07,495
- Please, let's go back.
- 783
- 00:54:10,456 --> 00:54:12,250
- I love the physicality of this space.
- 784
- 00:54:12,458 --> 00:54:14,877
- The engine room
- was an endlessly fascinating place.
- 785
- 00:54:15,086 --> 00:54:19,674
- Immense cathedral of engineering.
- 786
- 00:54:21,259 --> 00:54:22,677
- They're coming. Get ready.
- 787
- 00:54:22,885 --> 00:54:27,098
- But brutal, brutal physical space.
- 788
- 00:54:39,277 --> 00:54:42,196
- Keep going. Move.
- 789
- 00:54:42,405 --> 00:54:46,826
- This is one of those moments when
- the pace starts to step up a little bit.
- 790
- 00:54:47,827 --> 00:54:51,664
- You don't wanna push it,
- you don't wanna let it push.
- 791
- 00:54:52,081 --> 00:54:56,878
- If anything,
- the action is dragging the film with it...
- 792
- 00:54:57,086 --> 00:55:01,466
- ...rather than the film pushing the action,
- which I think is as it should be.
- 793
- 00:55:02,216 --> 00:55:05,178
- -We just--
- -Look at me, Irish. Look at me.
- 794
- 00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:14,854
- Now, the removal of the power,
- the emergency generator...
- 795
- 00:55:15,062 --> 00:55:16,397
- ...creates another moment...
- 796
- 00:55:16,606 --> 00:55:19,192
- ...another intimate moment
- between Phillips and Muse...
- 797
- 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,404
- ...which is very important, I think,
- for their unfolding relationship.
- 798
- 00:55:23,613 --> 00:55:25,489
- -I don't know.
- -Was that you?
- 799
- 00:55:25,656 --> 00:55:27,533
- -I don't know what went wrong.
- -No.
- 800
- 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:31,495
- You'll never find this crew,
- not without any power on the ship.
- 801
- 00:55:31,662 --> 00:55:34,165
- You'll never find them.
- We'll never find them.
- 802
- 00:55:35,124 --> 00:55:36,709
- Irish...
- 803
- 00:55:37,335 --> 00:55:39,003
- ...I will find.
- 804
- 00:55:40,755 --> 00:55:42,298
- Not with him.
- 805
- 00:55:43,216 --> 00:55:45,009
- Look. He's gonna bleed to death.
- 806
- 00:55:45,176 --> 00:55:47,595
- Look, man, get us out of here.
- 807
- 00:55:48,596 --> 00:55:51,057
- The cinematographer on this film
- was Barry Ackroyd.
- 808
- 00:55:51,265 --> 00:55:54,268
- Barry and I have worked together
- many times.
- 809
- 00:55:58,564 --> 00:56:02,902
- I think the job he did was quite superb.
- 810
- 00:56:04,654 --> 00:56:10,451
- I don't think I've ever put a DOP
- in as many contorted positions...
- 811
- 00:56:10,660 --> 00:56:13,079
- ...inside a skiff, inside the lifeboat...
- 812
- 00:56:14,288 --> 00:56:16,332
- ...even in this engine room.
- 813
- 00:56:18,251 --> 00:56:22,547
- But every problem that I threw at him,
- he solved triumphantly.
- 814
- 00:56:22,755 --> 00:56:27,134
- I mean, these are very,
- very, very low-light conditions.
- 815
- 00:56:27,343 --> 00:56:30,012
- Don't talk. Go.
- 816
- 00:56:30,221 --> 00:56:33,683
- Trying to make it work
- and keep it natural...
- 817
- 00:56:35,101 --> 00:56:37,812
- ...is a very, very hard job.
- 818
- 00:56:42,483 --> 00:56:45,152
- Your friend make fool of us?
- 819
- 00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:47,863
- I love these faces there.
- 820
- 00:56:51,325 --> 00:56:54,954
- I think the company of actors
- were very, very focused.
- 821
- 00:56:55,162 --> 00:56:56,414
- And I think...
- 822
- 00:56:58,624 --> 00:57:04,380
- ...the actors who played the crew created
- another whole character, I think.
- 823
- 00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:08,259
- Collectively.
- 824
- 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:13,347
- Time for a bit more khat chewing.
- 825
- 00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:25,109
- Once again,
- very, very low-light conditions in here.
- 826
- 00:57:25,901 --> 00:57:29,238
- And Chris Rouse built the tension up...
- 827
- 00:57:30,948 --> 00:57:33,701
- ...trying to keep the geography clear.
- 828
- 00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:58,142
- I love also the sound here.
- 829
- 00:57:58,768 --> 00:58:05,358
- A ship down in the engine room
- really does creak.
- 830
- 00:58:05,858 --> 00:58:08,944
- They actually do sound
- like ghost ships...
- 831
- 00:58:09,945 --> 00:58:12,114
- ...eerie and menacing.
- 832
- 00:58:12,782 --> 00:58:15,368
- A great place to stage a fight.
- 833
- 00:58:15,743 --> 00:58:17,244
- Hey.
- 834
- 00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:26,712
- We got a problem.
- 835
- 00:58:27,171 --> 00:58:29,090
- Your buddy's hurt real bad.
- 836
- 00:58:29,298 --> 00:58:32,385
- We actually didn't have a lot of money
- on this film.
- 837
- 00:58:34,553 --> 00:58:38,474
- It was a sort of modestly budgeted film,
- but it--
- 838
- 00:58:38,683 --> 00:58:42,728
- I think one of the things
- that I'm most pleased about the film...
- 839
- 00:58:42,937 --> 00:58:46,816
- ...is that I think we managed
- to create sequences...
- 840
- 00:58:47,024 --> 00:58:52,321
- ...that looked much bigger than that,
- and we did it, I think, by being--
- 841
- 00:58:52,655 --> 00:58:55,991
- Spending our money
- by being very, very well-prepared...
- 842
- 00:58:56,450 --> 00:59:01,288
- ...and I think by shooting
- the action pieces very quickly.
- 843
- 00:59:03,374 --> 00:59:04,875
- -Hey.
- -No.
- 844
- 00:59:05,042 --> 00:59:06,419
- We have your leader.
- 845
- 00:59:06,585 --> 00:59:09,714
- We have your captain and his weapon.
- We wanna trade.
- 846
- 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,966
- Captain for captain. We want a deal.
- 847
- 00:59:12,133 --> 00:59:15,469
- Take that off of his head.
- Cronan, take that off his head now.
- 848
- 00:59:15,636 --> 00:59:16,762
- I no kill.
- 849
- 00:59:16,929 --> 00:59:18,264
- Talk. Talk to your friends...
- 850
- 00:59:18,431 --> 00:59:20,433
- One of the things
- I remember most clearly...
- 851
- 00:59:20,641 --> 00:59:24,270
- ...when I read Billy Ray's script...
- 852
- 00:59:25,271 --> 00:59:27,064
- ...I didn't really remember the story.
- 853
- 00:59:27,273 --> 00:59:29,567
- I mean, I vaguely remembered
- that it happened...
- 854
- 00:59:29,775 --> 00:59:31,694
- ...but I knew none of the details.
- 855
- 00:59:32,987 --> 00:59:35,072
- I remember when I read this...
- 856
- 00:59:36,615 --> 00:59:41,746
- ...that the crew had successfully taken
- the pirate captain hostage...
- 857
- 00:59:44,206 --> 00:59:50,629
- ...and then offered to trade,
- which is such an amazing story point.
- 858
- 00:59:51,005 --> 00:59:52,047
- And in fact...
- 859
- 00:59:53,591 --> 00:59:55,593
- ...when we made the film...
- 860
- 00:59:55,801 --> 00:59:59,555
- ...probably the biggest single challenge
- of the film...
- 861
- 00:59:59,764 --> 01:00:03,058
- ...was dealing
- with just simply the amount of story.
- 862
- 01:00:03,392 --> 01:00:05,936
- How to boil it down and compress it...
- 863
- 01:00:06,145 --> 01:00:11,108
- ...in a way that felt believable
- and coherent and consistent...
- 864
- 01:00:11,317 --> 01:00:13,903
- ...and with good narrative shape.
- 865
- 01:00:14,111 --> 01:00:18,157
- And Billy and I spent
- an enormous amount of time...
- 866
- 01:00:18,365 --> 01:00:21,577
- ...going back and forth,
- with Chris Rouse.
- 867
- 01:00:21,785 --> 01:00:24,038
- You know, one of the things I did...
- 868
- 01:00:24,246 --> 01:00:28,584
- ...was sort of approach it all as a
- collective effort from the beginning...
- 869
- 01:00:28,793 --> 01:00:33,005
- ...to try and get the film
- into the best possible shape...
- 870
- 01:00:33,214 --> 01:00:35,424
- ...before we started shooting...
- 871
- 01:00:35,633 --> 01:00:38,260
- ...and I think that really paid off.
- 872
- 01:01:00,908 --> 01:01:04,078
- So now we move towards the lifeboat...
- 873
- 01:01:06,247 --> 01:01:08,958
- ...which comes to dominate
- the last half of the film.
- 874
- 01:01:13,087 --> 01:01:16,757
- And as I say, the symmetry of the film,
- it's almost perfect.
- 875
- 01:01:16,966 --> 01:01:20,678
- This is almost the midway point
- of the film.
- 876
- 01:01:22,263 --> 01:01:23,847
- The first half, as I say...
- 877
- 01:01:25,099 --> 01:01:28,310
- ...small pirate skiffs
- attacking huge container ship.
- 878
- 01:01:29,061 --> 01:01:31,063
- And then, at the midway point...
- 879
- 01:01:31,981 --> 01:01:34,859
- ...small lifeboat chased
- by enormous war ships.
- 880
- 01:01:35,025 --> 01:01:37,278
- Hey, Shane. Do you have the captain?
- Where is he?
- 881
- 01:01:37,444 --> 01:01:40,281
- -In the engine room.
- -Bring him up so they can see him.
- 882
- 01:01:40,447 --> 01:01:41,657
- -I wanna see.
- -You will.
- 883
- 01:01:41,824 --> 01:01:44,577
- This, I think,
- is outstanding ensemble acting.
- 884
- 01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:49,164
- Every single actor here...
- 885
- 01:01:52,167 --> 01:01:54,962
- ...utterly committed
- to what they're doing...
- 886
- 01:01:56,714 --> 01:01:59,800
- ...to create a believable,
- intense scenario.
- 887
- 01:01:59,967 --> 01:02:01,552
- You get in, you buckle up.
- 888
- 01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:05,014
- We drop you in, and then
- you're on your way. Okay? Okay?
- 889
- 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:09,018
- No. You come with us.
- Till we get our guy back.
- 890
- 01:02:10,728 --> 01:02:13,439
- Now we're moving to, of course...
- 891
- 01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:18,360
- ...the fateful moment
- where Phillips goes into the lifeboat.
- 892
- 01:02:21,113 --> 01:02:26,201
- What was important to me
- was not to portray that moment...
- 893
- 01:02:26,410 --> 01:02:28,621
- ...as a sort of
- Hollywood hero's moment.
- 894
- 01:02:29,955 --> 01:02:31,373
- Nobody willingly...
- 895
- 01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:38,839
- ...goes in with four ruthless, armed,
- desperate young men...
- 896
- 01:02:39,048 --> 01:02:40,174
- ...with nothing to lose.
- 897
- 01:02:41,759 --> 01:02:46,096
- And I'm sure Phillips didn't.
- I'm sure he went in as we portray it...
- 898
- 01:02:46,305 --> 01:02:51,018
- ...because that was the only way
- he was gonna get them off the ship...
- 899
- 01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:58,567
- ...and to ensure the safety of his ship,
- his crew and his cargo.
- 900
- 01:02:58,776 --> 01:03:02,279
- There was no other choice,
- but it wasn't something he wanted.
- 901
- 01:03:02,613 --> 01:03:04,740
- But it's extremely brave, nonetheless.
- 902
- 01:03:05,491 --> 01:03:08,452
- -You got a squawk box.
- -Gas, gas. Enough gas?
- 903
- 01:03:08,619 --> 01:03:10,829
- Plenty of fuel to get you to Somalia.
- 904
- 01:03:10,996 --> 01:03:15,000
- -Cap, we got the guy.
- -All right. Send him on in. I'm coming out.
- 905
- 01:03:15,167 --> 01:03:18,212
- Okay, send him in. Let him go.
- 906
- 01:03:19,171 --> 01:03:20,506
- Let him go!
- 907
- 01:03:20,673 --> 01:03:23,300
- The score,
- sort of underpinning this now...
- 908
- 01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:27,471
- ...just not pushing hard,
- just sitting there.
- 909
- 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,892
- You gotta pump it, one, two,
- three, four, five, and then you drop.
- 910
- 01:03:32,101 --> 01:03:34,061
- Cap, come on out.
- 911
- 01:03:36,146 --> 01:03:39,775
- And then they come face-to-face again,
- Muse and Phillips.
- 912
- 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,487
- Now it's gonna be different.
- 913
- 01:03:43,654 --> 01:03:46,115
- --pump it, then you're in the water,
- and off you go.
- 914
- 01:03:49,076 --> 01:03:50,703
- Go!
- 915
- 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:53,372
- Go back!
- 916
- 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:56,500
- Hey, Cap!
- 917
- 01:04:06,969 --> 01:04:12,850
- It was a spectacular thing
- to watch the launch of the lifeboat.
- 918
- 01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:17,062
- Apparently,
- if you're on a large container ship...
- 919
- 01:04:17,271 --> 01:04:21,066
- ...you have to practice it as a drill
- at least once every six months, I think.
- 920
- 01:04:21,275 --> 01:04:24,528
- All the crew have to get into the lifeboat
- and launch it.
- 921
- 01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:28,282
- A bit like going on a funfair ride,
- I suppose.
- 922
- 01:04:29,074 --> 01:04:31,410
- A bit more brutal, perhaps.
- 923
- 01:04:42,629 --> 01:04:48,385
- So now we move
- to the military responders.
- 924
- 01:04:48,594 --> 01:04:51,013
- Task Force 151, which is the count--
- 925
- 01:04:51,221 --> 01:04:56,185
- International multilateral
- counter-piracy...
- 926
- 01:04:56,894 --> 01:04:58,479
- ...naval effort.
- 927
- 01:04:58,896 --> 01:05:00,314
- Many nations.
- 928
- 01:05:03,067 --> 01:05:06,445
- The call came into the Bainbridge...
- 929
- 01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:12,910
- ...and the captain of the Bainbridge,
- Captain Frank Castellano.
- 930
- 01:05:14,536 --> 01:05:17,998
- Four men have taken the ship's captain
- hostage in a lifeboat.
- 931
- 01:05:18,165 --> 01:05:20,584
- Presumed Somali pirates. Over.
- 932
- 01:05:20,918 --> 01:05:23,670
- Roger, ma'am.
- Do we have any other information? Over.
- 933
- 01:05:23,837 --> 01:05:28,425
- Not at this time, but best guess
- is they're heading for the Somali coast.
- 934
- 01:05:28,592 --> 01:05:30,886
- Your orders are to proceed
- and intercept.
- 935
- 01:05:31,053 --> 01:05:34,389
- Further to follow. This is CTF 151 out.
- 936
- 01:05:34,556 --> 01:05:36,683
- So 820 miles, even at...
- 937
- 01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:43,565
- ...a modern warship's top speed,
- that's going to be many, many hours...
- 938
- 01:05:43,774 --> 01:05:47,820
- ...before the Bainbridge can get there
- to provide any help.
- 939
- 01:05:47,986 --> 01:05:51,281
- Bridge, captain, full left rudder.
- Come to course 285.
- 940
- 01:06:07,506 --> 01:06:09,925
- One of the discussions...
- 941
- 01:06:10,134 --> 01:06:13,637
- ...that Billy Ray, who wrote the
- screenplay, and myself had early on...
- 942
- 01:06:13,846 --> 01:06:15,597
- ...was about the lifeboat scenes.
- 943
- 01:06:15,806 --> 01:06:17,850
- I think it was one of the areas that we...
- 944
- 01:06:18,892 --> 01:06:21,478
- ...agreed most profoundly on.
- 945
- 01:06:21,937 --> 01:06:24,314
- We used to joke afterwards
- that we disagreed...
- 946
- 01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:27,901
- ...about everything on this film
- except the most important things.
- 947
- 01:06:28,694 --> 01:06:33,615
- And one of the most important things
- was that we both believed...
- 948
- 01:06:33,824 --> 01:06:38,161
- ...that we should not, in this film,
- short-change the lifeboat scenes.
- 949
- 01:06:38,370 --> 01:06:41,206
- It was something
- Billy felt very strongly about...
- 950
- 01:06:41,415 --> 01:06:44,001
- ...and I totally agreed,
- and he was totally right.
- 951
- 01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:50,549
- It was crucial for this film
- that when you inhabited the lifeboat...
- 952
- 01:06:50,757 --> 01:06:56,471
- ...that you didn't feel suddenly
- that time was starting to telescope.
- 953
- 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,435
- On the contrary,
- I think you need to feel...
- 954
- 01:07:01,643 --> 01:07:03,854
- ...that it was an agony of waiting.
- 955
- 01:07:04,062 --> 01:07:05,731
- It was going to be an ordeal.
- 956
- 01:07:07,107 --> 01:07:12,571
- And how were these characters
- in this confined space--
- 957
- 01:07:12,779 --> 01:07:17,034
- Richard Phillips
- and his four captors.
- 958
- 01:07:17,242 --> 01:07:19,828
- --how were they going to react...
- 959
- 01:07:20,037 --> 01:07:25,334
- ...in the furnace of a small lifeboat
- on the Indian Ocean?
- 960
- 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:29,087
- Unbearable heat, swell.
- 961
- 01:07:29,296 --> 01:07:31,673
- Just a physical ordeal.
- 962
- 01:07:31,882 --> 01:07:35,385
- And most of all, could they be caught?
- 963
- 01:07:35,594 --> 01:07:38,847
- Because in the end,
- the structure of the film, at this point...
- 964
- 01:07:39,222 --> 01:07:41,058
- ...is a race.
- 965
- 01:07:41,266 --> 01:07:46,021
- They're trying to race in this
- small five-mile-an-hour lifeboat...
- 966
- 01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:49,566
- ...to the coast
- a couple of hundred miles away...
- 967
- 01:07:49,775 --> 01:07:51,401
- ...before any...
- 968
- 01:07:53,111 --> 01:07:57,032
- ...counter-piracy vessel
- can get to them to intercept.
- 969
- 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,909
- It's a gift.
- 970
- 01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:07,084
- Hey.
- 971
- 01:08:09,795 --> 01:08:11,672
- Irish.
- 972
- 01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:15,801
- You lie, Irish. Your ship no broke.
- 973
- 01:08:15,968 --> 01:08:17,844
- They come Somalia too.
- 974
- 01:08:18,011 --> 01:08:19,304
- Going back...
- 975
- 01:08:19,513 --> 01:08:21,223
- ...to the discussion earlier...
- 976
- 01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:23,809
- ...where I was saying
- that one of the things I like--
- 977
- 01:08:24,017 --> 01:08:28,522
- Liked about the story was that
- everybody was always telling...
- 978
- 01:08:28,730 --> 01:08:31,775
- ...less than the truth to everybody else.
- 979
- 01:08:31,984 --> 01:08:34,695
- And then they'd find out, you know?
- 980
- 01:08:34,903 --> 01:08:37,656
- Phillips had spent
- a tremendous amount of time...
- 981
- 01:08:37,864 --> 01:08:41,702
- ...when he was on the bridge
- telling Muse that the ship had broken.
- 982
- 01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:44,538
- But of course that was a lie...
- 983
- 01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:48,667
- ...and as soon as the Alabama
- gave chase, Muse knew it.
- 984
- 01:08:50,002 --> 01:08:53,630
- But of course,
- Muse was busy lying...
- 985
- 01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:57,050
- ...to Phillips as well,
- telling him it was gonna be all right.
- 986
- 01:09:00,887 --> 01:09:02,889
- Give me some khat.
- 987
- 01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:05,392
- Why?
- You've had more than your share.
- 988
- 01:09:05,559 --> 01:09:07,644
- Says who? Give me some more!
- 989
- 01:09:07,811 --> 01:09:09,104
- Shut up!
- 990
- 01:09:09,271 --> 01:09:11,356
- Both of you, shut up.
- 991
- 01:09:11,523 --> 01:09:13,066
- Just take it.
- 992
- 01:09:13,275 --> 01:09:16,695
- These four young men
- were obsessed with khat.
- 993
- 01:09:17,571 --> 01:09:21,074
- As I said earlier...
- 994
- 01:09:21,283 --> 01:09:24,453
- ...it's chewed ubiquitously...
- 995
- 01:09:24,661 --> 01:09:26,872
- ...in that part of Africa.
- 996
- 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,671
- And one of the realities
- of this experience was that...
- 997
- 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,966
- ...when the khat started to run out,
- as it did...
- 998
- 01:09:38,675 --> 01:09:41,595
- ...the pressure
- and the tension began to grow.
- 999
- 01:09:41,762 --> 01:09:45,432
- This money, taking you, that's all it is.
- 1000
- 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,560
- You come to our waters, you got to pay.
- 1001
- 01:09:48,727 --> 01:09:51,646
- We were in international waters.
- 1002
- 01:09:51,813 --> 01:09:53,815
- Not your waters, international waters.
- 1003
- 01:09:53,982 --> 01:09:55,859
- Somali pirates always say that--
- 1004
- 01:09:56,068 --> 01:09:58,987
- Two things, I think, are common
- to all Somali pirates.
- 1005
- 01:09:59,196 --> 01:10:03,992
- They will always tell you that the money
- that they're trying to get is just taxes.
- 1006
- 01:10:04,201 --> 01:10:07,204
- And the other is
- that they're just fishermen.
- 1007
- 01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:11,291
- One of the things that was interesting,
- studying the subject...
- 1008
- 01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:13,543
- ...was that there's no question...
- 1009
- 01:10:14,044 --> 01:10:19,299
- ...that the modern rise
- of Somali piracy definitely...
- 1010
- 01:10:19,674 --> 01:10:23,762
- ...was a response to over-fishing
- and toxic-waste dumping...
- 1011
- 01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:25,514
- ...off the coast of Somalia.
- 1012
- 01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:31,728
- As Somalia collapsed into civil war
- and there was no central government...
- 1013
- 01:10:31,937 --> 01:10:34,773
- ...there was no attempt to police...
- 1014
- 01:10:35,607 --> 01:10:37,025
- ...the coasts.
- 1015
- 01:10:37,234 --> 01:10:38,735
- And, of course...
- 1016
- 01:10:40,195 --> 01:10:43,615
- ...fishing vessels
- over-fished and dumped.
- 1017
- 01:10:43,824 --> 01:10:47,953
- And local fishing communities
- began to strike back.
- 1018
- 01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:52,624
- That was in the '80s and early '90s. Very
- quickly, once money started to be made...
- 1019
- 01:10:52,833 --> 01:10:57,504
- ...the warlords and the gangsters moved
- in, and by the time of these events...
- 1020
- 01:10:57,712 --> 01:11:01,174
- ...piracy had become
- highly organized.
- 1021
- 01:11:01,383 --> 01:11:03,343
- International...
- 1022
- 01:11:03,927 --> 01:11:06,096
- ...organized crime.
- 1023
- 01:11:07,347 --> 01:11:11,518
- But many of the young men...
- 1024
- 01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,979
- ...involved...
- 1025
- 01:11:14,771 --> 01:11:18,900
- ...liked to talk about themselves...
- 1026
- 01:11:19,276 --> 01:11:21,194
- ...as just fishermen.
- 1027
- 01:11:24,281 --> 01:11:26,241
- Not true, of course, but....
- 1028
- 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:30,537
- But a necessary fiction, perhaps.
- 1029
- 01:11:39,421 --> 01:11:43,175
- Go ahead, come here. It's all right.
- Your foot. Give me your foot.
- 1030
- 01:11:43,341 --> 01:11:44,551
- Come on.
- 1031
- 01:11:45,594 --> 01:11:47,762
- This scene, I think, beautifully played...
- 1032
- 01:11:47,971 --> 01:11:50,765
- ...because it's starting to develop...
- 1033
- 01:11:51,141 --> 01:11:53,727
- ...the crucial relationships
- inside the boat--
- 1034
- 01:11:53,935 --> 01:11:56,813
- Inside the lifeboat, between...
- 1035
- 01:11:57,522 --> 01:12:00,609
- ...Tom and Bilal, the youngest pirate.
- 1036
- 01:12:01,651 --> 01:12:03,320
- And of course...
- 1037
- 01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:06,114
- ...with Najee...
- 1038
- 01:12:07,449 --> 01:12:09,117
- ...the most dangerous of the four.
- 1039
- 01:12:15,457 --> 01:12:18,460
- Slowly but surely, the relationship
- between Phillips and Najee...
- 1040
- 01:12:18,668 --> 01:12:21,087
- ...comes to dominate the film.
- 1041
- 01:12:22,005 --> 01:12:25,133
- And that process takes a big step...
- 1042
- 01:12:25,634 --> 01:12:27,594
- ...in this scene.
- 1043
- 01:12:28,345 --> 01:12:31,306
- Go back. Get back there.
- 1044
- 01:12:41,233 --> 01:12:44,361
- But of course,
- the challenge for Muse is...
- 1045
- 01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:46,321
- ...what does he do?
- 1046
- 01:12:46,529 --> 01:12:49,824
- Is he is charge or is Najee in charge?
- 1047
- 01:12:53,787 --> 01:12:56,581
- And which policy is most likely...
- 1048
- 01:12:56,790 --> 01:13:00,669
- ...to give them a successful outcome in
- their own terms, to get the hijack money.
- 1049
- 01:13:00,877 --> 01:13:03,964
- That's really the question
- of the second half of the film.
- 1050
- 01:13:04,172 --> 01:13:06,591
- Who is in charge, Muse?
- 1051
- 01:13:16,101 --> 01:13:17,727
- So meanwhile...
- 1052
- 01:13:17,936 --> 01:13:22,691
- ...the military response
- starts to take shape.
- 1053
- 01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:25,026
- First of all...
- 1054
- 01:13:25,235 --> 01:13:28,446
- ...the lifeboat's
- put under aerial surveillance.
- 1055
- 01:13:29,739 --> 01:13:31,533
- And that material...
- 1056
- 01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:34,911
- ...and other intelligence material
- is relayed to the Bainbridge...
- 1057
- 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,790
- ...so that Captain Castellano
- is in the best position...
- 1058
- 01:13:38,999 --> 01:13:43,003
- ...to formulate a strategy
- as to what to do when he arrives...
- 1059
- 01:13:43,211 --> 01:13:45,755
- ...and intercepts the lifeboat.
- 1060
- 01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:49,676
- According to ONI, that vessel's under
- the control of Somali warlord Garaad.
- 1061
- 01:13:49,884 --> 01:13:52,679
- We're working on getting the IDs
- of the kidnappers.
- 1062
- 01:13:52,846 --> 01:13:57,017
- If this is Garaad's guys, they're looking
- for a payday, which means they'll talk.
- 1063
- 01:13:57,183 --> 01:14:00,145
- If we can get them talking,
- we can wear them down. Over.
- 1064
- 01:14:00,312 --> 01:14:02,606
- All these scenes were shot...
- 1065
- 01:14:03,315 --> 01:14:05,692
- ...on the USS Truxtun...
- 1066
- 01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:08,695
- ...which was the sister ship
- of the Bainbridge.
- 1067
- 01:14:08,903 --> 01:14:10,864
- And...
- 1068
- 01:14:11,531 --> 01:14:14,618
- ...with the exception of Yul here...
- 1069
- 01:14:14,826 --> 01:14:18,955
- ...a lot of these men and women
- are the crew of the Truxtun...
- 1070
- 01:14:19,164 --> 01:14:23,710
- ...without whose support we would never
- have been able to convey...
- 1071
- 01:14:23,918 --> 01:14:28,131
- ...the reality of these command posts.
- 1072
- 01:14:29,007 --> 01:14:32,260
- If you haven't gotten Phillips back
- by the time they arrive...
- 1073
- 01:14:32,427 --> 01:14:34,012
- ...the SEALs will take care of it.
- 1074
- 01:14:34,179 --> 01:14:37,140
- And again, one of the things
- you've got to do...
- 1075
- 01:14:37,349 --> 01:14:41,895
- ...I think,
- if you're gonna convey downrange...
- 1076
- 01:14:42,062 --> 01:14:46,524
- ...real audience involvement,
- is to take your time now...
- 1077
- 01:14:46,691 --> 01:14:50,278
- ...to show people how
- that control room works.
- 1078
- 01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:55,784
- Who are the dominant characters?
- What are the procedures in there?
- 1079
- 01:14:55,992 --> 01:15:00,121
- And I think that all
- starts to pay off dividends later.
- 1080
- 01:15:12,050 --> 01:15:17,430
- The heat inside that lifeboat
- must have been unbearable.
- 1081
- 01:15:18,515 --> 01:15:20,600
- The motion too.
- 1082
- 01:15:22,018 --> 01:15:24,729
- When we first started shooting
- on the lifeboat...
- 1083
- 01:15:24,896 --> 01:15:27,315
- ...off the coast of Malta...
- 1084
- 01:15:27,482 --> 01:15:32,362
- ...within half an hour we had two
- or three people physically sick...
- 1085
- 01:15:32,612 --> 01:15:38,827
- ...from the turbulence inside.
- 1086
- 01:15:38,993 --> 01:15:41,746
- What it must have been like
- for four or five days...
- 1087
- 01:15:42,747 --> 01:15:45,041
- ...I just can't imagine.
- 1088
- 01:15:45,208 --> 01:15:48,211
- It literally must have been
- a hell on Earth.
- 1089
- 01:15:51,339 --> 01:15:53,216
- And of course...
- 1090
- 01:15:55,051 --> 01:15:57,846
- ...tempers soon get frayed.
- 1091
- 01:16:05,228 --> 01:16:06,813
- Hey. Hey.
- 1092
- 01:16:08,398 --> 01:16:11,109
- That's enough.
- 1093
- 01:16:11,276 --> 01:16:13,862
- Take it away.
- 1094
- 01:16:14,028 --> 01:16:16,364
- From now on this water is only for us.
- 1095
- 01:16:17,282 --> 01:16:21,619
- This scene's an important scene
- because it really brings Muse...
- 1096
- 01:16:21,786 --> 01:16:22,829
- ...into the picture.
- 1097
- 01:16:22,996 --> 01:16:27,125
- What is he going to do,
- knowing as he does...
- 1098
- 01:16:27,584 --> 01:16:30,545
- ...that Najee is starting...
- 1099
- 01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:33,590
- ...to lose control.
- 1100
- 01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:37,427
- And of course...
- 1101
- 01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:42,432
- ...you can see in Phillips's eyes there,
- in Tom's look, that he knows...
- 1102
- 01:16:42,599 --> 01:16:44,476
- ...that Muse's got a problem.
- 1103
- 01:16:44,809 --> 01:16:47,896
- And he's watching and watching
- and watching...
- 1104
- 01:16:48,188 --> 01:16:51,649
- ...and now he tries
- to manipulate Muse...
- 1105
- 01:16:51,816 --> 01:16:54,944
- ...to use his problems against him.
- 1106
- 01:16:55,528 --> 01:16:59,240
- And that's part of the battle of wills
- between the two of them.
- 1107
- 01:17:00,909 --> 01:17:03,328
- I know what I'm doing.
- 1108
- 01:17:03,912 --> 01:17:06,998
- Yeah, yeah, sure, you do. Of course.
- You're the captain now.
- 1109
- 01:17:07,165 --> 01:17:11,377
- Tom, I think, is a magnificent...
- 1110
- 01:17:12,378 --> 01:17:14,047
- ...player of the everyman.
- 1111
- 01:17:14,214 --> 01:17:17,342
- The way he inhabits this role...
- 1112
- 01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:20,512
- ...and brings all the colors out...
- 1113
- 01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:26,976
- ...but in a simple, very real register...
- 1114
- 01:17:27,143 --> 01:17:29,521
- ...is magnificent.
- 1115
- 01:17:32,482 --> 01:17:37,320
- Just that constant watching,
- that constant feeling that he's--
- 1116
- 01:17:37,570 --> 01:17:44,244
- Although he's helpless, he's looking
- for any small opportunity he can...
- 1117
- 01:17:44,536 --> 01:17:47,163
- ...to manipulate the situation.
- 1118
- 01:17:52,877 --> 01:17:54,921
- Brilliant acting.
- 1119
- 01:18:07,559 --> 01:18:10,228
- We should be heading northwest.
- 1120
- 01:18:10,395 --> 01:18:13,439
- We've got to get to Garaad's port.
- 1121
- 01:18:13,606 --> 01:18:16,067
- I am, but there's a lot of wind.
- 1122
- 01:18:16,234 --> 01:18:18,403
- -Just go!
- -Okay, then let me do it.
- 1123
- 01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:25,451
- It's the same principle really,
- as with the first and second attack.
- 1124
- 01:18:25,618 --> 01:18:29,581
- You mustn't hurry the film.
- 1125
- 01:18:32,125 --> 01:18:37,797
- I think the power of the film
- lies in really inhabiting the lifeboat.
- 1126
- 01:18:39,674 --> 01:18:44,137
- So you feel as Phillips does.
- 1127
- 01:18:45,054 --> 01:18:49,934
- How can he turn this situation
- to his vantage, or can he?
- 1128
- 01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:53,688
- --or don't come back at all.
- 1129
- 01:18:58,276 --> 01:19:01,237
- Sounds like there's a problem.
- Is there a problem?
- 1130
- 01:19:02,822 --> 01:19:04,616
- Problem.
- 1131
- 01:19:05,742 --> 01:19:08,036
- No problem, Irish.
- 1132
- 01:19:08,620 --> 01:19:11,247
- Everything gonna be okay.
- 1133
- 01:19:11,998 --> 01:19:17,045
- Barkhad Abdi is brilliant, I think,
- in this scene too, because he....
- 1134
- 01:19:18,254 --> 01:19:19,839
- He tries to brush him off...
- 1135
- 01:19:20,006 --> 01:19:22,216
- ...but you know the pressure's
- building on him.
- 1136
- 01:19:22,383 --> 01:19:25,219
- Bainbridge CO has until your arrival
- to negotiate a surrender.
- 1137
- 01:19:25,386 --> 01:19:27,722
- But upon boarding,
- you will assume command.
- 1138
- 01:19:28,681 --> 01:19:34,687
- Now we get another piece in the
- unfolding story of the military response.
- 1139
- 01:19:34,937 --> 01:19:39,817
- As the SEAL Team 6 are mobilized.
- 1140
- 01:19:39,984 --> 01:19:44,030
- But of course it's gonna take them
- many, many hours to get there.
- 1141
- 01:19:47,867 --> 01:19:50,787
- But obviously each step down that road...
- 1142
- 01:19:51,621 --> 01:19:54,624
- ...raises the stakes inside the lifeboat.
- 1143
- 01:20:03,341 --> 01:20:05,510
- It's almost as if...
- 1144
- 01:20:05,677 --> 01:20:08,137
- ...the most dangerous thing,
- if you're a hostage...
- 1145
- 01:20:08,304 --> 01:20:10,556
- ...is not to be rescued...
- 1146
- 01:20:10,723 --> 01:20:14,519
- ...but the next most dangerous thing
- is to be rescued.
- 1147
- 01:20:14,769 --> 01:20:17,313
- And it's that central...
- 1148
- 01:20:19,023 --> 01:20:20,650
- ...terror...
- 1149
- 01:20:21,776 --> 01:20:25,196
- ...that this film tries to depict.
- 1150
- 01:20:25,863 --> 01:20:28,574
- I can't feel my foot anymore.
- 1151
- 01:20:28,741 --> 01:20:31,160
- It's like hell in here.
- 1152
- 01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:36,249
- I love the way Tom...
- 1153
- 01:20:36,499 --> 01:20:40,545
- ...is sizing up the situation
- every moment.
- 1154
- 01:20:41,546 --> 01:20:43,381
- He wants air.
- 1155
- 01:20:43,548 --> 01:20:49,887
- Looking at each pirate in turn,
- trying to work out what's happening.
- 1156
- 01:20:57,645 --> 01:21:00,732
- Talk too much. Too much.
- 1157
- 01:21:11,117 --> 01:21:14,328
- It's funny, whenever I watch this film...
- 1158
- 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:16,706
- ...when he opens the window,
- smashes it out...
- 1159
- 01:21:16,831 --> 01:21:19,083
- ...I almost can feel
- the draft on my face.
- 1160
- 01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:23,671
- It feels so hot and claustrophobic
- by this stage.
- 1161
- 01:21:24,589 --> 01:21:26,799
- --you'll get a million bottles of it.
- 1162
- 01:21:26,966 --> 01:21:30,094
- -All the water you want.
- -Really?
- 1163
- 01:21:32,305 --> 01:21:35,349
- So this is a very important scene now...
- 1164
- 01:21:35,516 --> 01:21:38,061
- ...because it brings out
- the triangular relationship...
- 1165
- 01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:41,105
- ...between Phillips, Muse and Najee.
- 1166
- 01:21:41,814 --> 01:21:46,319
- And, of course, develops this idea
- of everybody lying to everybody else...
- 1167
- 01:21:46,486 --> 01:21:49,655
- ...as Muse tells him the story...
- 1168
- 01:21:50,073 --> 01:21:52,909
- ...about the millions he's made
- from hijacking.
- 1169
- 01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:55,703
- And Phillips calls him out on it.
- 1170
- 01:21:57,997 --> 01:22:02,335
- Your problem isn't me talking to you.
- Your problem is you not listening.
- 1171
- 01:22:11,135 --> 01:22:14,764
- You think you have any power here?
- 1172
- 01:22:14,931 --> 01:22:18,559
- -Let him go.
- -I should shoot you and be done.
- 1173
- 01:22:18,726 --> 01:22:20,728
- Take your gun off him.
- 1174
- 01:22:20,895 --> 01:22:23,689
- I'm the captain.
- Who do you think you are?
- 1175
- 01:22:25,233 --> 01:22:26,984
- So now...
- 1176
- 01:22:28,194 --> 01:22:29,237
- ...Najee throws down.
- 1177
- 01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:40,123
- But before it can be resolved...
- 1178
- 01:22:42,667 --> 01:22:44,836
- ...the Bainbridge arrives.
- 1179
- 01:22:46,921 --> 01:22:50,675
- This was an immense challenge
- to shoot this scene.
- 1180
- 01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:56,222
- Bringing a modern warship very,
- very close, at high speed...
- 1181
- 01:22:56,389 --> 01:22:58,724
- ...to a small lifeboat was no small....
- 1182
- 01:23:00,768 --> 01:23:02,812
- No small endeavor.
- 1183
- 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,402
- But it was quite spectacular to watch
- a pair of those vessels...
- 1184
- 01:23:09,569 --> 01:23:14,407
- ...and the wake they create.
- Enormous, enormous waves.
- 1185
- 01:23:18,369 --> 01:23:22,790
- I love what Tom does here.
- You see the elation...
- 1186
- 01:23:22,957 --> 01:23:25,710
- ...and the terror all mixed up in one.
- 1187
- 01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:28,171
- Get something to tie the doors.
- 1188
- 01:23:29,297 --> 01:23:31,465
- Alabama lifeboat,
- this is Frank Castellano...
- 1189
- 01:23:31,591 --> 01:23:33,759
- ...commander of the USS Bainbridge.
- 1190
- 01:23:33,968 --> 01:23:38,097
- We wanna get Captain Phillips back
- safely and end this thing peacefully.
- 1191
- 01:23:39,390 --> 01:23:42,476
- We worked a long time
- to get the score right here.
- 1192
- 01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:48,608
- And it was a question of finding...
- 1193
- 01:23:50,276 --> 01:23:53,863
- ...some piece where the score could sit
- but would...
- 1194
- 01:23:55,156 --> 01:23:57,116
- ...have some drive...
- 1195
- 01:23:57,700 --> 01:24:02,830
- ...but not push too hard and allow us
- to bring brass through.
- 1196
- 01:24:02,997 --> 01:24:09,378
- But Henry ended up with this
- very simple little ostinato.
- 1197
- 01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:13,007
- Very, very powerful.
- 1198
- 01:24:13,174 --> 01:24:15,760
- We just want to talk.
- 1199
- 01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:20,514
- Made me think, occasionally,
- that I made a film...
- 1200
- 01:24:20,681 --> 01:24:23,976
- ...that felt a bit like
- Assault on Precinct 13.
- 1201
- 01:24:24,143 --> 01:24:28,022
- It's got the same musical sense,
- which I love, incidentally...
- 1202
- 01:24:28,189 --> 01:24:32,318
- ...because I love that movie.
- I think it's a brilliant film.
- 1203
- 01:24:32,735 --> 01:24:37,782
- There's something about that ostinato
- that made me think of it.
- 1204
- 01:24:37,949 --> 01:24:41,160
- No tricks, or your captain dead.
- 1205
- 01:24:47,041 --> 01:24:53,714
- I love Tom's look here, and the way
- that Chris picks up Castellano's look.
- 1206
- 01:24:54,423 --> 01:25:00,471
- One look pulling you to the other,
- binding characters in, building tension.
- 1207
- 01:25:01,806 --> 01:25:03,474
- -Shane Murphy?
- -Yeah, that's me.
- 1208
- 01:25:03,641 --> 01:25:07,353
- Lieutenant Hicks. You're entering
- a military engagement zone, sir.
- 1209
- 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:12,608
- Need you to bring the ship left to 210.
- We are here to escort you to Mombasa.
- 1210
- 01:25:12,775 --> 01:25:15,236
- Your captain'll be in good hands.
- 1211
- 01:25:15,403 --> 01:25:17,822
- All right. You heard him, guys.
- 1212
- 01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:21,325
- One of the structural problems
- of the story, of course...
- 1213
- 01:25:21,492 --> 01:25:26,497
- ...is that the Alabama disappears
- at this stage, from the story.
- 1214
- 01:25:26,664 --> 01:25:33,129
- And we wrestled with that problem
- for a long time in advance, how to...?
- 1215
- 01:25:33,295 --> 01:25:37,758
- And it's often the case in films,
- you often have to wrestle...
- 1216
- 01:25:37,925 --> 01:25:41,178
- ...with how to lose characters
- and situations in a way...
- 1217
- 01:25:41,345 --> 01:25:45,224
- ...that your audience
- doesn't really notice or doesn't care.
- 1218
- 01:25:47,059 --> 01:25:52,857
- And it was about doing it in a way
- that you bait and switch and move on...
- 1219
- 01:25:53,816 --> 01:25:56,610
- ...to develop the drama in the lifeboat.
- 1220
- 01:25:56,777 --> 01:26:03,200
- And now, from here on in, the story
- becomes the story of the lifeboat...
- 1221
- 01:26:03,367 --> 01:26:04,952
- ...versus the military.
- 1222
- 01:26:05,536 --> 01:26:07,747
- Irish, your crew...
- 1223
- 01:26:08,873 --> 01:26:10,374
- ...run.
- 1224
- 01:26:10,541 --> 01:26:11,625
- Ship go.
- 1225
- 01:26:11,792 --> 01:26:13,711
- Brilliant acting, I think, at this stage.
- 1226
- 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,214
- You better think
- about what you're doing.
- 1227
- 01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:23,763
- Navy good. They protect us.
- Back to Somalia.
- 1228
- 01:26:23,929 --> 01:26:26,474
- The Navy's not here to protect you.
- 1229
- 01:26:28,017 --> 01:26:30,019
- Bravado from Muse.
- 1230
- 01:26:30,978 --> 01:26:32,897
- No choice.
- 1231
- 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,523
- I got you.
- 1232
- 01:26:34,815 --> 01:26:38,486
- You know the situation
- is inherently unstable.
- 1233
- 01:26:47,953 --> 01:26:50,456
- Just that one shot shows you,
- in a nutshell, I think...
- 1234
- 01:26:50,623 --> 01:26:52,708
- ...the difficulties Barry
- had to contend with.
- 1235
- 01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:58,964
- How do you get images on the water
- when you're in small craft that are...
- 1236
- 01:27:00,966 --> 01:27:03,969
- ...you know, sufficiently stable
- that you can understand them?
- 1237
- 01:27:04,136 --> 01:27:06,263
- It's a big, big, big problem.
- 1238
- 01:27:07,056 --> 01:27:10,726
- People sometimes criticize me
- for the shaky cam.
- 1239
- 01:27:10,893 --> 01:27:15,523
- I'd love to bring those people out
- onto the ocean in a 4-foot swell...
- 1240
- 01:27:15,689 --> 01:27:20,277
- ...and say, "Well, how exactly
- would you get stable images?"
- 1241
- 01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:24,698
- The wonder is that we had any images
- at all, to be honest.
- 1242
- 01:27:24,907 --> 01:27:28,536
- Okay. Wait.
- 1243
- 01:27:28,702 --> 01:27:31,080
- To me, this...
- 1244
- 01:27:31,705 --> 01:27:35,042
- ...is very, very real, very intense.
- 1245
- 01:27:35,209 --> 01:27:40,172
- And you start to feel
- the different ways...
- 1246
- 01:27:40,339 --> 01:27:42,967
- ...these four young men
- are responding.
- 1247
- 01:27:44,093 --> 01:27:45,845
- How Phillips is responding.
- 1248
- 01:27:46,554 --> 01:27:51,434
- And the problem from the
- anti-piracy task force's point of view.
- 1249
- 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,895
- How do they resolve
- this situation peacefully?
- 1250
- 01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,232
- I'm in Seat 15.
- 1251
- 01:27:58,399 --> 01:28:00,067
- You understand?
- 1252
- 01:28:00,568 --> 01:28:02,486
- I'm in Seat 15.
- 1253
- 01:28:02,653 --> 01:28:04,697
- All stations, TAO, log it: Seat 15.
- 1254
- 01:28:04,864 --> 01:28:08,075
- Break, CICWO. TAO.
- Send that to CTF 151 and SOCOM.
- 1255
- 01:28:09,702 --> 01:28:11,662
- Don't worry, sir. We'll handle it.
- 1256
- 01:28:11,871 --> 01:28:13,414
- Get him back inside.
- 1257
- 01:28:14,623 --> 01:28:17,543
- Again, spending time
- inside the control room...
- 1258
- 01:28:18,085 --> 01:28:20,296
- ...to show how it works, who does what.
- 1259
- 01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:21,755
- Where's the money?
- 1260
- 01:28:21,922 --> 01:28:25,134
- I don't want your food.
- I want your money.
- 1261
- 01:28:25,301 --> 01:28:28,387
- -We got another on top.
- -OSS, maintain camera footage.
- 1262
- 01:28:28,554 --> 01:28:30,472
- -Hold on a second.
- -No tricks, sahib.
- 1263
- 01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:34,602
- All these vessels, as part of
- the international anti-piracy patrol...
- 1264
- 01:28:34,768 --> 01:28:40,608
- ...have Somali speakers onboard
- for these encounters.
- 1265
- 01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:43,402
- They're treating us like children.
- 1266
- 01:28:43,569 --> 01:28:45,112
- Ten million dollars, when?
- 1267
- 01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:46,614
- It's not that easy...
- 1268
- 01:28:46,780 --> 01:28:48,741
- ...so we need time.
- 1269
- 01:28:49,325 --> 01:28:52,077
- You can imagine how the tension rises.
- 1270
- 01:28:54,455 --> 01:28:58,000
- They've got expectations
- of a huge payday.
- 1271
- 01:28:59,251 --> 01:29:00,419
- And, of course...
- 1272
- 01:29:01,587 --> 01:29:05,966
- ...what they can't understand
- is that no deal can ever be done.
- 1273
- 01:29:08,344 --> 01:29:12,097
- But somewhere,
- on the U.S. Navy side...
- 1274
- 01:29:12,223 --> 01:29:15,100
- ...they need to resolve this
- thing peacefully.
- 1275
- 01:29:18,020 --> 01:29:21,649
- So each holds cards
- that the other doesn't have.
- 1276
- 01:29:22,525 --> 01:29:24,735
- It's asymmetrical.
- 1277
- 01:29:25,402 --> 01:29:27,238
- But also perfectly balanced.
- 1278
- 01:29:29,156 --> 01:29:34,203
- Four young men with AK-47s
- and nothing to lose...
- 1279
- 01:29:34,370 --> 01:29:38,290
- ...versus the might of the U.S. Navy.
- 1280
- 01:29:38,832 --> 01:29:40,709
- It's a standoff.
- 1281
- 01:29:40,918 --> 01:29:44,088
- -I say he okay.
- -I need to hear it from him.
- 1282
- 01:29:48,342 --> 01:29:50,552
- And, of course, caught in the middle...
- 1283
- 01:29:52,304 --> 01:29:54,181
- ...is Captain Phillips.
- 1284
- 01:29:55,683 --> 01:29:57,893
- -Talk.
- -Yeah, yeah, it's me.
- 1285
- 01:29:58,060 --> 01:29:59,395
- Are you okay?
- 1286
- 01:29:59,937 --> 01:30:03,816
- It's falling apart in here. He just fired
- off a round next to my head.
- 1287
- 01:30:04,775 --> 01:30:08,279
- -Is the leader there?
- -Yeah, he can hear you.
- 1288
- 01:30:08,445 --> 01:30:11,782
- Captain, listen to me.
- We will not tolerate this.
- 1289
- 01:30:11,949 --> 01:30:15,369
- As captain, you're responsible
- for the lives of everyone onboard.
- 1290
- 01:30:15,577 --> 01:30:17,913
- Right now
- you are putting them in jeopardy.
- 1291
- 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,124
- We wanna resolve this thing
- peacefully.
- 1292
- 01:30:21,542 --> 01:30:24,878
- Let's find a way out of this together
- before someone gets hurt.
- 1293
- 01:30:25,045 --> 01:30:28,132
- Pressure on Muse now.
- What's he going to do?
- 1294
- 01:30:28,924 --> 01:30:32,011
- Alabama lifeboat, respond.
- 1295
- 01:30:34,763 --> 01:30:36,724
- I talk when I go Somalia.
- 1296
- 01:30:37,641 --> 01:30:38,726
- Sit down.
- 1297
- 01:30:38,892 --> 01:30:40,477
- Sit down!
- 1298
- 01:30:40,936 --> 01:30:42,896
- He just wants the money.
- 1299
- 01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:45,566
- So he doubles the ante.
- He's gonna keep on going...
- 1300
- 01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:48,694
- ...he's gonna keep on pushing on,
- see if he can get to Somalia.
- 1301
- 01:30:49,737 --> 01:30:52,197
- If he can get Phillips to Somalia...
- 1302
- 01:30:53,073 --> 01:30:58,537
- ...the stakes get much harder
- for anyone trying to rescue him.
- 1303
- 01:30:59,705 --> 01:31:03,375
- ETA on the SEAL team is 0400.
- 1304
- 01:31:05,336 --> 01:31:07,129
- But from Castellano's point of view...
- 1305
- 01:31:07,338 --> 01:31:10,633
- ...the window of opportunity
- to negotiate a peaceful outcome...
- 1306
- 01:31:10,841 --> 01:31:12,801
- ...is fast diminishing.
- 1307
- 01:31:15,471 --> 01:31:19,516
- Military reinforcements are coming...
- 1308
- 01:31:19,975 --> 01:31:22,269
- ...and the SEALs are not far away.
- 1309
- 01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:30,319
- Irish, no worry.
- 1310
- 01:31:31,779 --> 01:31:35,532
- I think right in those two shots there,
- you feel...
- 1311
- 01:31:36,617 --> 01:31:39,870
- ...the pressure
- that both Muse and Phillips are under.
- 1312
- 01:31:40,037 --> 01:31:41,246
- After this, I go America.
- 1313
- 01:31:42,581 --> 01:31:45,125
- I always wanted to go America.
- 1314
- 01:31:46,001 --> 01:31:51,256
- In a sense, their interests
- are both served by a negotiation...
- 1315
- 01:31:52,091 --> 01:31:54,468
- ...not by a....
- 1316
- 01:31:56,845 --> 01:31:59,306
- An unsuccessful standoff.
- 1317
- 01:31:59,890 --> 01:32:02,684
- There are two more ships,
- one on either side.
- 1318
- 01:32:03,936 --> 01:32:08,857
- Phillips can see
- that Muse is beginning to struggle.
- 1319
- 01:32:09,066 --> 01:32:13,445
- His arm is being infected, he's
- starting to run a big fever, he's sick.
- 1320
- 01:32:13,612 --> 01:32:15,614
- Sit down! Sit down!
- 1321
- 01:32:15,781 --> 01:32:18,409
- -Sit down!
- -Down! Down!
- 1322
- 01:32:18,617 --> 01:32:20,703
- And now Phillips
- can see the reinforcements.
- 1323
- 01:32:20,911 --> 01:32:23,163
- He knows what's coming.
- 1324
- 01:32:24,581 --> 01:32:27,376
- And as I said earlier...
- 1325
- 01:32:27,584 --> 01:32:29,670
- ...the biggest danger
- is not to be rescued...
- 1326
- 01:32:29,878 --> 01:32:32,339
- ...but the next greatest danger
- is to be rescued.
- 1327
- 01:32:32,506 --> 01:32:35,134
- He's gone. He's left you alone.
- 1328
- 01:32:35,759 --> 01:32:37,845
- You had a plan to take my ship.
- 1329
- 01:32:37,970 --> 01:32:40,305
- That didn't work,
- so you thought you could take me?
- 1330
- 01:32:40,472 --> 01:32:42,224
- -Shut up.
- -Make a run to Somalia?
- 1331
- 01:32:42,391 --> 01:32:45,686
- They got the Navy out there.
- You gotta give up. You gotta stop.
- 1332
- 01:32:46,145 --> 01:32:47,604
- Brilliant scene, this, I think.
- 1333
- 01:32:47,813 --> 01:32:50,065
- Absolutely beautifully played
- by the two of them.
- 1334
- 01:32:50,232 --> 01:32:51,859
- They can't let you win.
- 1335
- 01:32:52,025 --> 01:32:55,737
- They would rather sink this boat
- than let you get me back to Somalia.
- 1336
- 01:32:55,904 --> 01:32:56,947
- It's over.
- 1337
- 01:33:00,617 --> 01:33:02,995
- I come too far, Irish.
- 1338
- 01:33:03,579 --> 01:33:07,541
- I can't give up. No.
- 1339
- 01:33:16,550 --> 01:33:19,511
- It's a fateful moment, I think,
- between the two of them.
- 1340
- 01:33:21,096 --> 01:33:23,807
- Phillips can see
- he's never going to give up.
- 1341
- 01:33:31,231 --> 01:33:34,693
- So the stage is set, really,
- for the denouement.
- 1342
- 01:33:36,153 --> 01:33:37,529
- Roger that.
- 1343
- 01:33:46,580 --> 01:33:50,000
- I think Castellano,
- at this point, knows...
- 1344
- 01:33:51,460 --> 01:33:54,505
- ...that the space and the time
- and the room for negotiation...
- 1345
- 01:33:54,671 --> 01:33:56,173
- ...is almost at an end.
- 1346
- 01:34:02,846 --> 01:34:06,683
- And I think Phillips knows it too.
- And I think Muse knows it as well.
- 1347
- 01:34:14,608 --> 01:34:17,945
- So now, finally,
- all that watching pays off.
- 1348
- 01:34:18,195 --> 01:34:21,323
- Phillips looks,
- sees that Najee is sleeping.
- 1349
- 01:34:22,324 --> 01:34:24,868
- Something's gonna happen
- in that lifeboat.
- 1350
- 01:34:26,245 --> 01:34:29,706
- But on the other side of the story,
- the SEALs are inbound.
- 1351
- 01:34:29,915 --> 01:34:33,919
- So the stakes are ratcheting up.
- 1352
- 01:34:39,049 --> 01:34:41,844
- Phillips looks at the door...
- 1353
- 01:34:42,094 --> 01:34:44,221
- ...sees Bilal put his weapon down.
- 1354
- 01:34:47,391 --> 01:34:51,478
- He sees that Muse's
- not concentrating...
- 1355
- 01:34:51,728 --> 01:34:53,313
- ...in a world of his own.
- 1356
- 01:34:53,522 --> 01:34:55,232
- So he has a chance.
- 1357
- 01:34:58,402 --> 01:35:01,321
- One chance.
- The chance he'd been waiting for.
- 1358
- 01:35:20,257 --> 01:35:22,759
- Saltwater would be good for your foot.
- 1359
- 01:35:26,888 --> 01:35:28,348
- He got out!
- 1360
- 01:35:28,515 --> 01:35:31,143
- Turn the boat around!
- 1361
- 01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:32,936
- Bilal, you idiot!
- 1362
- 01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:36,398
- They must have been
- desperate moments, swimming...
- 1363
- 01:35:38,108 --> 01:35:44,197
- ...seeing the U.S. Navy ships
- just across the ocean.
- 1364
- 01:35:45,365 --> 01:35:48,410
- Unbeknownst to him, of course,
- the SEALs are inbound...
- 1365
- 01:35:48,660 --> 01:35:49,912
- ...on the other side.
- 1366
- 01:35:50,871 --> 01:35:52,247
- Now Najee is awake.
- 1367
- 01:35:53,665 --> 01:35:55,542
- The pirates try to turn.
- 1368
- 01:35:56,418 --> 01:35:57,711
- Captain's in Combat.
- 1369
- 01:35:57,878 --> 01:36:00,380
- Cap. We got two in the water.
- Two in the water.
- 1370
- 01:36:00,589 --> 01:36:03,050
- Starboard side, I see them both.
- 1371
- 01:36:03,550 --> 01:36:04,718
- Two guys in the water.
- 1372
- 01:36:05,969 --> 01:36:08,805
- Castellano is brought up to the bridge.
- 1373
- 01:36:09,514 --> 01:36:11,308
- But the problem is...
- 1374
- 01:36:12,184 --> 01:36:16,146
- ...they're in no position to know who's in
- the water and who's not. Is that Phillips?
- 1375
- 01:36:16,355 --> 01:36:20,609
- Is that Phillips or is that just
- two pirates? If they open fire...
- 1376
- 01:36:23,236 --> 01:36:25,656
- ...they might kill Phillips,
- so they can't shoot.
- 1377
- 01:36:28,659 --> 01:36:32,120
- So now we've got simultaneous action.
- 1378
- 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,292
- Which, I think, any filmmaker
- will tell you is always the....
- 1379
- 01:36:37,709 --> 01:36:40,545
- The thing you're trying to find
- if you can really....
- 1380
- 01:36:40,921 --> 01:36:44,758
- If you can get simultaneous action
- occurring and it feels natural...
- 1381
- 01:36:45,425 --> 01:36:47,719
- ...then you really can drive a sequence.
- 1382
- 01:36:53,642 --> 01:36:57,187
- We shot these pieces
- in the tank at Malta.
- 1383
- 01:36:57,688 --> 01:37:00,065
- In fact, when we started the film,
- I thought--
- 1384
- 01:37:00,232 --> 01:37:04,861
- When we initially began discussing the
- film, I thought we'd shoot a lot of it...
- 1385
- 01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,447
- ...in the deep-water tanks.
- But as it turned out...
- 1386
- 01:37:07,614 --> 01:37:11,451
- ...I think we did two nights, two
- short nights, just for this one sequence.
- 1387
- 01:37:12,285 --> 01:37:15,789
- The swimming under the lifeboat.
- 1388
- 01:37:15,997 --> 01:37:17,833
- The rest of it was done in the ocean.
- 1389
- 01:37:18,667 --> 01:37:22,045
- -Can't tell who's in the water.
- -No clear shot at the Tangos.
- 1390
- 01:37:22,212 --> 01:37:24,756
- Nobody shoots
- unless there's a clear shot.
- 1391
- 01:37:24,965 --> 01:37:26,341
- Where is he?
- 1392
- 01:37:32,431 --> 01:37:34,433
- Here he is! Here he is!
- 1393
- 01:37:41,148 --> 01:37:44,067
- Phillips in a desperate situation here.
- 1394
- 01:37:45,068 --> 01:37:46,111
- Of course...
- 1395
- 01:37:46,653 --> 01:37:49,031
- ...the Navy are lighting the sky up...
- 1396
- 01:37:49,448 --> 01:37:51,700
- ...when, in fact,
- what he wants is darkness.
- 1397
- 01:37:53,827 --> 01:37:58,290
- But the truth is,
- the distance to the warships was too far.
- 1398
- 01:38:00,834 --> 01:38:03,378
- Muse was able to jump in and....
- 1399
- 01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:05,672
- Help!
- 1400
- 01:38:05,964 --> 01:38:08,592
- And no matter
- how hard he tried to escape...
- 1401
- 01:38:09,259 --> 01:38:11,720
- ...the truth is,
- he wasn't going anywhere.
- 1402
- 01:38:15,682 --> 01:38:17,017
- All right!
- 1403
- 01:38:17,225 --> 01:38:18,310
- -Come!
- -All right!
- 1404
- 01:38:19,519 --> 01:38:21,188
- -Come! Forward!
- -All right!
- 1405
- 01:38:21,354 --> 01:38:23,356
- Got him.
- 1406
- 01:38:23,523 --> 01:38:24,941
- Come!
- 1407
- 01:38:25,108 --> 01:38:27,569
- Okay, okay.
- 1408
- 01:38:29,529 --> 01:38:32,449
- Go in, Irish! Go! Go, Irish!
- 1409
- 01:38:33,366 --> 01:38:36,078
- Sir, the SEALs are coming aboard.
- 1410
- 01:38:36,912 --> 01:38:38,789
- Prepare to board the SEALs.
- 1411
- 01:38:40,707 --> 01:38:43,335
- Trying to create
- connectivity with Castellano.
- 1412
- 01:38:44,461 --> 01:38:47,923
- SEALs are almost aboard, he's really
- only got one more throw of the dice...
- 1413
- 01:38:48,089 --> 01:38:50,592
- ...Castellano,
- if he's gonna resolve this thing.
- 1414
- 01:38:54,262 --> 01:38:57,140
- And also, of course, they knew...
- 1415
- 01:38:57,724 --> 01:39:00,727
- ...that Phillips was gonna be beaten
- when he got back...
- 1416
- 01:39:01,603 --> 01:39:02,646
- ...in the lifeboat.
- 1417
- 01:39:02,813 --> 01:39:04,773
- Waiting for you on the bridge, sir.
- 1418
- 01:39:12,531 --> 01:39:14,074
- Not today!
- 1419
- 01:39:14,241 --> 01:39:15,492
- Stop him!
- 1420
- 01:39:20,622 --> 01:39:22,707
- That's enough!
- 1421
- 01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:28,964
- I think the score is quite brilliant here,
- the way you get that...
- 1422
- 01:39:31,842 --> 01:39:33,301
- ...progression of percussion.
- 1423
- 01:39:34,761 --> 01:39:37,597
- Those descending cello lines...
- 1424
- 01:39:37,806 --> 01:39:40,100
- ...and the high-string pieces.
- 1425
- 01:39:40,642 --> 01:39:43,061
- There's a sort of a terrible beauty in it.
- 1426
- 01:39:48,233 --> 01:39:50,861
- Bainbridge to lifeboat,
- you must surrender.
- 1427
- 01:39:51,027 --> 01:39:53,155
- You will not be permitted to go further.
- 1428
- 01:39:53,321 --> 01:39:55,157
- It's a helicopter!
- 1429
- 01:39:55,657 --> 01:39:58,618
- So Castellano plays his last card.
- 1430
- 01:40:01,788 --> 01:40:04,040
- Alabama lifeboat, respond.
- 1431
- 01:40:04,207 --> 01:40:05,709
- Hurry! Go!
- 1432
- 01:40:05,876 --> 01:40:06,960
- I'm trying.
- 1433
- 01:40:11,631 --> 01:40:12,799
- Go!
- 1434
- 01:40:12,966 --> 01:40:16,428
- You have a choice to make, captain.
- Surrender now and this ends peacefully.
- 1435
- 01:40:16,595 --> 01:40:18,722
- Panic in the desperation...
- 1436
- 01:40:19,556 --> 01:40:21,474
- ...inside that lifeboat.
- 1437
- 01:40:22,309 --> 01:40:24,436
- That was amazing acting, really.
- 1438
- 01:40:24,936 --> 01:40:26,354
- Very, very real.
- 1439
- 01:40:27,564 --> 01:40:31,401
- It's easy to make a noise,
- easy to make a commotion.
- 1440
- 01:40:31,610 --> 01:40:35,238
- What's really hard when you're
- a group of actors...
- 1441
- 01:40:35,447 --> 01:40:40,702
- ...is to create real rising and falling
- tension and real detail...
- 1442
- 01:40:40,911 --> 01:40:43,914
- ...so you understand each character,
- what each character's doing.
- 1443
- 01:40:44,122 --> 01:40:45,165
- Fashioning moments...
- 1444
- 01:40:45,332 --> 01:40:48,877
- ...dramatic moments along the way
- that have got proper shape...
- 1445
- 01:40:49,085 --> 01:40:51,755
- ...so that you invest in the experience.
- 1446
- 01:40:54,341 --> 01:40:55,592
- Go!
- 1447
- 01:40:56,426 --> 01:40:58,219
- Go!
- 1448
- 01:40:58,428 --> 01:41:00,305
- Up ladder.
- 1449
- 01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:04,517
- Make a hole.
- 1450
- 01:41:05,685 --> 01:41:10,857
- The music's alternately
- twisting and turning...
- 1451
- 01:41:11,733 --> 01:41:13,985
- ...as the tension ratchets up.
- 1452
- 01:41:14,694 --> 01:41:17,238
- Target in the hatch.
- This is Bainbridge out.
- 1453
- 01:41:17,948 --> 01:41:20,075
- They're holding a gun to Phillips' head.
- 1454
- 01:41:20,242 --> 01:41:23,662
- He's kind of yelling
- and waving his pistol back and forth.
- 1455
- 01:41:26,122 --> 01:41:30,335
- I kill him! I kill him! Now! I kill him!
- 1456
- 01:41:33,421 --> 01:41:35,131
- We got shots fired, captain.
- 1457
- 01:41:35,298 --> 01:41:37,467
- -How many shots?
- -Who fired? Who fired?
- 1458
- 01:41:37,634 --> 01:41:39,594
- We're losing this.
- 1459
- 01:41:43,306 --> 01:41:46,518
- That's the bridge of the
- USS Truxtun, there...
- 1460
- 01:41:46,768 --> 01:41:50,438
- ...with its full complement
- of men and women.
- 1461
- 01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,821
- Without them, this would never have had
- the reality that it does as a sequence.
- 1462
- 01:41:58,238 --> 01:42:00,740
- Give me the radio.
- 1463
- 01:42:01,825 --> 01:42:06,121
- The helicopter is coming back.
- 1464
- 01:42:07,205 --> 01:42:11,334
- Earlier on, you'll remember we had
- the scene where Muse tells Phillips:
- 1465
- 01:42:12,377 --> 01:42:13,920
- "We're just fishermen."
- 1466
- 01:42:16,381 --> 01:42:19,259
- This is a very important moment
- when Phillips recalls that.
- 1467
- 01:42:20,218 --> 01:42:23,221
- And throws it back in his face
- and it lands with Muse.
- 1468
- 01:42:24,556 --> 01:42:27,267
- Talk. Talk.
- 1469
- 01:42:27,434 --> 01:42:32,731
- They got a gun to my throat, and they're
- gonna use a survival suit as a body bag.
- 1470
- 01:42:38,528 --> 01:42:41,239
- You're not just a fisherman.
- 1471
- 01:42:41,906 --> 01:42:44,492
- You're not just a fisherman.
- 1472
- 01:42:48,288 --> 01:42:50,790
- Men of the Alabama lifeboat--
- 1473
- 01:42:50,957 --> 01:42:54,336
- That's a magnificent moment
- between the two of them.
- 1474
- 01:42:55,420 --> 01:42:58,465
- The battle of wills
- has just taken another turn.
- 1475
- 01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:03,636
- Who is this?
- 1476
- 01:43:03,803 --> 01:43:06,973
- I'm the negotiator.
- I'm authorized to negotiate with you.
- 1477
- 01:43:07,182 --> 01:43:11,561
- And then
- the SEAL commander speaks.
- 1478
- 01:43:11,770 --> 01:43:14,689
- And continuing that theme...
- 1479
- 01:43:14,898 --> 01:43:18,902
- ...of everybody telling lies
- to everybody else.
- 1480
- 01:43:19,235 --> 01:43:21,654
- He tells Muse
- he's gonna do a deal with him.
- 1481
- 01:43:21,863 --> 01:43:23,990
- Muse will get his money.
- 1482
- 01:43:25,408 --> 01:43:30,246
- No one in this film speaks the truth
- to each other.
- 1483
- 01:43:30,747 --> 01:43:32,123
- Or very rarely.
- 1484
- 01:43:32,332 --> 01:43:34,376
- We spoke with the elders of your tribe.
- 1485
- 01:43:34,542 --> 01:43:38,379
- They are coming here to negotiate a deal,
- an exchange.
- 1486
- 01:43:38,588 --> 01:43:42,467
- We get our man, you get your money.
- But this has to be done in confidence.
- 1487
- 01:43:42,634 --> 01:43:46,137
- We don't want anyone to see
- the exchange. Neither do the elders.
- 1488
- 01:43:46,304 --> 01:43:47,430
- It's a lie.
- 1489
- 01:43:47,597 --> 01:43:50,767
- You're low on fuel.
- We got some weather coming in...
- 1490
- 01:43:50,934 --> 01:43:54,354
- ...so I'm suggesting that we tow you out
- to the exchange point.
- 1491
- 01:43:54,521 --> 01:43:58,608
- The difference, I think, between Max
- playing the SEAL commander...
- 1492
- 01:43:58,817 --> 01:44:02,195
- ...and Yul playing Captain Castellano:
- The way they framed...
- 1493
- 01:44:02,404 --> 01:44:05,615
- ...the different sides
- of the military response.
- 1494
- 01:44:05,990 --> 01:44:07,951
- The accuracy
- with which they framed them...
- 1495
- 01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:10,954
- ...and the conviction
- with which they played them...
- 1496
- 01:44:11,162 --> 01:44:13,832
- ...was quite remarkable, I think.
- 1497
- 01:44:14,749 --> 01:44:17,419
- They made those parts really, really play.
- 1498
- 01:44:17,627 --> 01:44:19,504
- It's an ambush.
- 1499
- 01:44:19,712 --> 01:44:23,633
- And equally, in this scene
- the way Muse and Najee...
- 1500
- 01:44:24,592 --> 01:44:28,221
- ...frame up their differences.
- 1501
- 01:44:41,067 --> 01:44:43,153
- Filming this last sequence...
- 1502
- 01:44:43,361 --> 01:44:46,447
- ...was probably
- the biggest challenge of the film.
- 1503
- 01:44:46,781 --> 01:44:48,700
- We didn't have a lot of time.
- 1504
- 01:44:48,908 --> 01:44:50,702
- Keep me posted on status.
- 1505
- 01:44:52,078 --> 01:44:53,830
- The Navy provided us
- with these ships.
- 1506
- 01:44:54,497 --> 01:44:58,168
- And we had them
- for a very short amount of time.
- 1507
- 01:44:58,376 --> 01:45:04,591
- And we had to execute
- a very complicated....
- 1508
- 01:45:05,967 --> 01:45:08,511
- A multifaceted action sequence...
- 1509
- 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:14,017
- ...involving four vessels
- and three or four helicopters at night.
- 1510
- 01:45:16,519 --> 01:45:18,396
- At high speed...
- 1511
- 01:45:18,605 --> 01:45:20,148
- ...with a lot of safety issues...
- 1512
- 01:45:20,648 --> 01:45:23,568
- ...and a lot of coordination issues.
- 1513
- 01:45:23,860 --> 01:45:27,447
- And it took
- a remarkable amount of planning.
- 1514
- 01:45:27,655 --> 01:45:31,326
- And we were very lucky.
- 1515
- 01:45:31,534 --> 01:45:34,245
- Which is something
- that every director needs...
- 1516
- 01:45:34,454 --> 01:45:36,664
- ...shooting a scene like this.
- 1517
- 01:45:42,378 --> 01:45:45,924
- Once again,
- you need to sell the geography, always.
- 1518
- 01:45:46,925 --> 01:45:49,093
- Don't let anyone in.
- 1519
- 01:45:53,389 --> 01:45:56,893
- I was saying earlier, one of
- the interesting things about the piece...
- 1520
- 01:45:57,101 --> 01:46:03,066
- ...is the way that characters very rarely
- speak the truth to each other.
- 1521
- 01:46:04,943 --> 01:46:06,986
- Apart from in this scene.
- 1522
- 01:46:08,196 --> 01:46:12,992
- Which is obviously the culmination
- of the relationship...
- 1523
- 01:46:13,201 --> 01:46:14,536
- ...between Muse and Phillips.
- 1524
- 01:46:17,288 --> 01:46:19,332
- I go Navy ship...
- 1525
- 01:46:20,792 --> 01:46:22,543
- ...get dollars...
- 1526
- 01:46:23,962 --> 01:46:24,963
- ...you go home.
- 1527
- 01:46:25,129 --> 01:46:27,131
- It starts conventionally.
- 1528
- 01:46:27,340 --> 01:46:31,135
- How many times have we heard Muse
- say, "Everything's gonna be okay"?
- 1529
- 01:46:31,928 --> 01:46:38,309
- But then it takes a turn into the truthful.
- 1530
- 01:46:38,476 --> 01:46:40,144
- --ransom...
- 1531
- 01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:44,315
- ...nobody get hurt.
- 1532
- 01:46:44,482 --> 01:46:48,653
- You had $30,000
- and a way to Somalia.
- 1533
- 01:46:50,989 --> 01:46:52,448
- It wasn't enough?
- 1534
- 01:46:55,159 --> 01:46:57,203
- I got bosses.
- 1535
- 01:46:57,870 --> 01:46:59,747
- They got rules.
- 1536
- 01:46:59,914 --> 01:47:02,250
- We all got bosses.
- 1537
- 01:47:07,338 --> 01:47:10,341
- There's gotta be something
- other than being a fisherman...
- 1538
- 01:47:10,508 --> 01:47:12,302
- ...and kidnapping people.
- 1539
- 01:47:15,388 --> 01:47:17,640
- Maybe in America, Irish.
- 1540
- 01:47:18,308 --> 01:47:20,226
- Maybe in America.
- 1541
- 01:47:25,398 --> 01:47:27,400
- Alabama lifeboat, this is the U.S. Navy.
- 1542
- 01:47:27,567 --> 01:47:28,985
- Magnificent scene.
- 1543
- 01:47:30,611 --> 01:47:35,783
- I remember reading those two lines
- in Billy's first draft.
- 1544
- 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,494
- And thinking,
- "Right there, that's the film."
- 1545
- 01:47:38,703 --> 01:47:41,414
- And in many ways, the film is all...
- 1546
- 01:47:41,581 --> 01:47:44,459
- ...trying to get to that place
- in a way that's believable...
- 1547
- 01:47:44,667 --> 01:47:48,212
- ...so that that conversation
- feels believable...
- 1548
- 01:47:48,421 --> 01:47:50,340
- ...between those two characters.
- 1549
- 01:47:50,548 --> 01:47:51,883
- Without sentimentality...
- 1550
- 01:47:52,091 --> 01:47:55,094
- ...without creating moral equivalents.
- 1551
- 01:47:55,595 --> 01:48:01,476
- Without suggesting in any way
- that Phillips sympathizes with Muse...
- 1552
- 01:48:01,684 --> 01:48:03,311
- ...because he doesn't.
- 1553
- 01:48:04,103 --> 01:48:08,524
- But so you understand both characters.
- 1554
- 01:48:10,652 --> 01:48:15,740
- And when you've had that moment,
- you're ready, then, for the endgame.
- 1555
- 01:48:15,948 --> 01:48:18,368
- Be advised,
- I have eyes on the package.
- 1556
- 01:48:18,576 --> 01:48:21,287
- And again, same point as earlier.
- 1557
- 01:48:21,496 --> 01:48:25,500
- You've got to take the time in a sequence
- to set up the rules of the sequence.
- 1558
- 01:48:25,708 --> 01:48:27,835
- Who knows what?
- 1559
- 01:48:28,044 --> 01:48:31,422
- Who's doing what? Who's in control?
- What are the communication systems?
- 1560
- 01:48:33,216 --> 01:48:36,552
- Put this on, captain.
- We need to keep you healthy.
- 1561
- 01:48:36,803 --> 01:48:38,596
- All the time, you've gotta--
- 1562
- 01:48:38,805 --> 01:48:44,394
- You must never compromise
- the accuracy...
- 1563
- 01:48:44,602 --> 01:48:47,855
- ...and the time you spend
- setting things up.
- 1564
- 01:48:48,564 --> 01:48:50,775
- The more you set up,
- the more you can pay off.
- 1565
- 01:48:52,777 --> 01:48:54,821
- Inside. Go.
- 1566
- 01:48:55,446 --> 01:48:56,489
- Go.
- 1567
- 01:48:56,698 --> 01:49:00,201
- -Where are the elders?
- -The elders are being flown in.
- 1568
- 01:49:01,077 --> 01:49:03,705
- Put the gun inside.
- We'll take you to your elders.
- 1569
- 01:49:03,871 --> 01:49:05,581
- Anything happen, he die.
- 1570
- 01:49:05,748 --> 01:49:08,668
- I give you my word.
- Everything will be fine.
- 1571
- 01:49:08,835 --> 01:49:11,045
- Put the gun down.
- 1572
- 01:49:11,212 --> 01:49:12,463
- Gun down.
- 1573
- 01:49:14,132 --> 01:49:15,508
- Wait.
- 1574
- 01:49:18,970 --> 01:49:20,555
- These guys were all ex-military.
- 1575
- 01:49:20,763 --> 01:49:23,224
- And they were able
- to bring their training to bear.
- 1576
- 01:49:23,433 --> 01:49:26,686
- We got you. Come on.
- Nice and easy. Okay.
- 1577
- 01:49:27,603 --> 01:49:31,274
- I think you feel, when you watch them,
- that they know what they're doing.
- 1578
- 01:49:34,610 --> 01:49:36,737
- Captain, it'll be over soon. Hang tough.
- 1579
- 01:49:36,904 --> 01:49:40,241
- Stay in the same seat
- you've been sitting in.
- 1580
- 01:49:40,533 --> 01:49:43,244
- It's funny,
- even just watching this now...
- 1581
- 01:49:43,453 --> 01:49:46,497
- ...in a studio, I can feel my palms...
- 1582
- 01:49:46,706 --> 01:49:49,041
- ...starting to sweat a bit.
- 1583
- 01:49:49,208 --> 01:49:50,835
- Stern seas.
- 1584
- 01:49:51,043 --> 01:49:54,338
- And that's
- because you're responding...
- 1585
- 01:49:55,089 --> 01:49:56,424
- ...to the human situation.
- 1586
- 01:49:56,632 --> 01:50:01,304
- To the insight that great actors
- give you into a human situation.
- 1587
- 01:50:02,305 --> 01:50:03,764
- You become involved.
- 1588
- 01:50:03,973 --> 01:50:05,433
- You become truly involved.
- 1589
- 01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,895
- -TAO, initiate high-speed maneuver.
- -Aye, sir.
- 1590
- 01:50:10,730 --> 01:50:13,816
- Halyburton, Boxer. This is Bainbridge.
- 1591
- 01:50:13,983 --> 01:50:16,068
- Commence high-speed maneuvers.
- Over.
- 1592
- 01:50:18,362 --> 01:50:20,698
- Cause and effect...
- 1593
- 01:50:20,907 --> 01:50:23,075
- ...character development...
- 1594
- 01:50:23,284 --> 01:50:26,037
- ...architecture, control of pace.
- 1595
- 01:50:29,332 --> 01:50:31,709
- Come up this way. Up this way.
- 1596
- 01:50:32,710 --> 01:50:36,756
- Chris Rouse and I watched this
- and worked it for weeks.
- 1597
- 01:50:38,508 --> 01:50:44,305
- But he has a wonderful eye
- for the architecture of these sequences.
- 1598
- 01:50:44,514 --> 01:50:47,141
- What weight to give each side.
- 1599
- 01:50:47,809 --> 01:50:48,976
- Stand over here.
- 1600
- 01:50:51,145 --> 01:50:53,272
- As you move
- from environment to environment...
- 1601
- 01:50:53,481 --> 01:50:54,857
- ...you need to be specific.
- 1602
- 01:50:56,150 --> 01:50:58,569
- From darkness to light.
- 1603
- 01:50:58,861 --> 01:51:02,073
- You know,
- light can be as disorientating as dark.
- 1604
- 01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,867
- Relax. We're gonna take care of you.
- 1605
- 01:51:06,202 --> 01:51:10,456
- And now you're watching a man
- who realizes he's being lied to.
- 1606
- 01:51:10,998 --> 01:51:12,875
- But again, he doesn't quite know how.
- 1607
- 01:51:13,084 --> 01:51:14,961
- He doesn't know
- what he can do about it.
- 1608
- 01:51:23,553 --> 01:51:27,098
- Your captain knows what he's doing.
- You're gonna get your money now.
- 1609
- 01:51:40,778 --> 01:51:44,782
- Likewise,
- all these guys are ex-military.
- 1610
- 01:51:44,991 --> 01:51:46,534
- What's going on?
- 1611
- 01:51:46,742 --> 01:51:48,160
- And I think, again...
- 1612
- 01:51:49,912 --> 01:51:55,001
- ...it's much better to get
- former military professionals to act...
- 1613
- 01:51:55,209 --> 01:51:57,920
- ...than it is to get actors
- to be military professionals...
- 1614
- 01:51:58,129 --> 01:51:59,422
- ...in my experience.
- 1615
- 01:51:59,630 --> 01:52:02,341
- We're going to initiate the tow.
- 1616
- 01:52:02,508 --> 01:52:05,511
- I repeat,
- we are going to initiate the tow.
- 1617
- 01:52:05,678 --> 01:52:09,765
- You need to tell your driver
- that he needs to stay in his seat...
- 1618
- 01:52:09,932 --> 01:52:12,101
- ...and continue steering.
- 1619
- 01:52:29,869 --> 01:52:34,624
- Music takes a turn, obviously,
- at this point. You get a heartbeat.
- 1620
- 01:52:38,002 --> 01:52:39,337
- This thing is building now.
- 1621
- 01:52:41,505 --> 01:52:44,258
- Alfa team is green at this time.
- One green, two red.
- 1622
- 01:52:45,259 --> 01:52:49,263
- A lot of the musical pieces
- that have been put in place earlier...
- 1623
- 01:52:49,472 --> 01:52:52,266
- ...now start to come together.
- 1624
- 01:52:52,475 --> 01:52:57,939
- The brass is starting to stretch
- and twist.
- 1625
- 01:53:00,691 --> 01:53:03,611
- The pulse has become a heartbeat.
- 1626
- 01:53:11,827 --> 01:53:15,331
- -Hey. Hey.
- -I'm putting on the shirt like they said.
- 1627
- 01:53:16,999 --> 01:53:19,585
- If he moves again, shoot him.
- 1628
- 01:53:19,752 --> 01:53:21,754
- Sir, the pirates have just issued a threat.
- 1629
- 01:53:21,921 --> 01:53:24,006
- One of the extraordinary things...
- 1630
- 01:53:24,173 --> 01:53:28,260
- ...about Tom's performance,
- I think in this film, is that he...
- 1631
- 01:53:30,262 --> 01:53:32,890
- ...takes pieces of doubt and fear...
- 1632
- 01:53:33,099 --> 01:53:34,850
- ...and hopelessness...
- 1633
- 01:53:35,059 --> 01:53:38,229
- ...and yet he manages
- to fashion out of them...
- 1634
- 01:53:38,437 --> 01:53:41,482
- ...a story of endurance.
- 1635
- 01:53:42,984 --> 01:53:45,945
- It's almost counterintuitive, really.
- 1636
- 01:53:47,488 --> 01:53:49,031
- He's not playing the hero.
- 1637
- 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,076
- On the contrary,
- he's playing the reality of the situation...
- 1638
- 01:53:52,284 --> 01:53:57,123
- ...at every step of the way with accuracy
- and restraint, self-discipline.
- 1639
- 01:53:57,331 --> 01:53:58,791
- And so...
- 1640
- 01:54:00,209 --> 01:54:05,339
- ...in an era, I think, cinematically
- dominated by superheroes...
- 1641
- 01:54:05,548 --> 01:54:10,177
- ...he's always chosen--
- And dared, I think.
- 1642
- 01:54:10,386 --> 01:54:12,638
- --to play the ordinary man.
- 1643
- 01:54:12,847 --> 01:54:14,348
- And that takes--
- 1644
- 01:54:14,557 --> 01:54:16,434
- You have to accept restrictions.
- 1645
- 01:54:16,642 --> 01:54:20,479
- Restrictions on who you are,
- restrictions on the powers that you have.
- 1646
- 01:54:20,688 --> 01:54:22,773
- The behaviors that you can exhibit.
- 1647
- 01:54:22,982 --> 01:54:28,571
- You can't just, you know, rely
- on some special power that you have.
- 1648
- 01:54:28,779 --> 01:54:31,031
- You're just an ordinary person.
- 1649
- 01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:32,783
- And yet out of that...
- 1650
- 01:54:34,201 --> 01:54:38,414
- ...slowly but surely,
- you feel this deep reservoir...
- 1651
- 01:54:38,622 --> 01:54:42,918
- ...of humanity underneath,
- and he's done it time and again.
- 1652
- 01:54:43,127 --> 01:54:48,382
- And I think never better than in this--
- The end of this film.
- 1653
- 01:54:48,549 --> 01:54:51,427
- American ship, answer me.
- 1654
- 01:54:51,927 --> 01:54:56,307
- You, I think, literally do feel
- you're with him...
- 1655
- 01:54:56,515 --> 01:54:59,560
- ...in this unfolding situation.
- 1656
- 01:55:01,270 --> 01:55:03,439
- As the sympathies twist and turn.
- 1657
- 01:55:03,647 --> 01:55:08,277
- Do we--? Do we want them
- to open fire or don't we?
- 1658
- 01:55:10,279 --> 01:55:15,242
- What's gonna stand the best?
- 1659
- 01:55:15,451 --> 01:55:19,914
- What's gonna give the best chance
- of a successful outcome?
- 1660
- 01:55:20,289 --> 01:55:22,917
- That's the question you're asking
- as an audience.
- 1661
- 01:55:29,173 --> 01:55:33,552
- And always that thin fragile line
- that connects the lifeboat.
- 1662
- 01:55:33,761 --> 01:55:36,347
- Irish. Irish. What you doing?
- 1663
- 01:55:37,515 --> 01:55:38,557
- What you doing?
- 1664
- 01:55:42,812 --> 01:55:44,021
- We know what he's doing.
- 1665
- 01:55:45,064 --> 01:55:47,483
- Although it's never spoken.
- 1666
- 01:55:50,236 --> 01:55:53,072
- We're doing what any of us would do
- in this situation.
- 1667
- 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:58,410
- If you knew some violent endgame...
- 1668
- 01:55:58,619 --> 01:56:01,789
- ...was about to play out
- in which you might or might not live...
- 1669
- 01:56:03,541 --> 01:56:05,167
- ...who would you be thinking about?
- 1670
- 01:56:05,334 --> 01:56:06,335
- Give me a distance.
- 1671
- 01:56:07,044 --> 01:56:09,463
- Two twenty. Still 129 out.
- 1672
- 01:56:16,137 --> 01:56:17,847
- Stop writing, Irish.
- 1673
- 01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:21,392
- If he sees you, he kill me and you both.
- 1674
- 01:56:22,852 --> 01:56:26,480
- Those breathing chords, brass chords.
- 1675
- 01:56:27,231 --> 01:56:28,899
- U.S. Navy, answer!
- 1676
- 01:56:30,818 --> 01:56:32,444
- Anxious.
- 1677
- 01:56:33,445 --> 01:56:36,615
- I want to speak with him!
- 1678
- 01:56:36,782 --> 01:56:37,825
- Alfa and Charlie teams green.
- 1679
- 01:56:37,992 --> 01:56:39,910
- They're saying, "Wake up."
- 1680
- 01:56:41,829 --> 01:56:45,916
- And they're slowing rising
- and building.
- 1681
- 01:56:47,543 --> 01:56:49,503
- Where are the elders?
- 1682
- 01:56:51,213 --> 01:56:52,464
- Where are elders?
- 1683
- 01:56:54,592 --> 01:56:57,261
- American ship, answer!
- 1684
- 01:56:57,428 --> 01:56:59,346
- Hey.
- 1685
- 01:56:59,513 --> 01:57:01,307
- Hey! What is this?
- 1686
- 01:57:01,515 --> 01:57:05,269
- Subterranean movement
- giving you unease.
- 1687
- 01:57:06,395 --> 01:57:09,273
- They've got something going on.
- I think it's a fight.
- 1688
- 01:57:10,107 --> 01:57:15,154
- Well, we've waited for this throw-down
- since the earliest moment.
- 1689
- 01:57:18,115 --> 01:57:20,743
- Phillips himself said
- he always thought...
- 1690
- 01:57:22,036 --> 01:57:25,414
- ...that he'd get a bullet in the head
- from the big, tall guy.
- 1691
- 01:57:26,665 --> 01:57:28,959
- He was the one
- he was most frightened of.
- 1692
- 01:57:30,377 --> 01:57:31,670
- Stop Irish! Stop Irish!
- 1693
- 01:57:31,837 --> 01:57:34,006
- Bring the rope!
- 1694
- 01:57:35,507 --> 01:57:38,093
- Alfa and Charlie are red.
- We are three red.
- 1695
- 01:57:38,260 --> 01:57:40,429
- Alabama lifeboat, this is the negotiator.
- 1696
- 01:57:40,596 --> 01:57:43,057
- If you harm the hostage,
- we do not have a deal.
- 1697
- 01:57:43,807 --> 01:57:45,309
- Do you copy?
- 1698
- 01:57:49,146 --> 01:57:50,648
- Tie him!
- 1699
- 01:57:52,274 --> 01:57:57,196
- The interesting situation
- is that with Muse off the lifeboat...
- 1700
- 01:57:57,404 --> 01:58:01,492
- ...command and control
- really breaks down.
- 1701
- 01:58:11,043 --> 01:58:12,836
- What are you doing?
- 1702
- 01:58:15,214 --> 01:58:17,758
- Captain Phillips, can you hear me?
- 1703
- 01:58:18,175 --> 01:58:21,762
- -Captain Phillips, can you hear me?
- -He's screaming, sir.
- 1704
- 01:58:22,721 --> 01:58:27,476
- -One fifty-five. They're 64 meters out.
- -One fifty-five, check. Speed up the tow.
- 1705
- 01:58:30,938 --> 01:58:35,401
- Now we are moving
- towards the conclusion.
- 1706
- 01:58:44,535 --> 01:58:47,371
- The situation is running out of control.
- 1707
- 01:58:49,039 --> 01:58:50,708
- Shut up!
- 1708
- 01:58:51,583 --> 01:58:54,211
- Get a blindfold!
- 1709
- 01:58:57,297 --> 01:58:59,466
- Can you see this?
- 1710
- 01:59:00,092 --> 01:59:01,135
- Can you see it?
- 1711
- 01:59:01,969 --> 01:59:04,805
- Let's reacquire targets,
- weapons release on my command.
- 1712
- 01:59:05,014 --> 01:59:07,808
- One thirty-five meters.
- That's 44 out from optimal.
- 1713
- 01:59:07,975 --> 01:59:10,894
- Alfa green.
- Bravo and Charlie are still red. Two red.
- 1714
- 01:59:11,353 --> 01:59:13,397
- Blindfold him.
- 1715
- 01:59:17,067 --> 01:59:21,113
- Kid, just put your hands up.
- You're just a kid.
- 1716
- 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:27,369
- Now all that preparatory work
- between Phillips and Bilal...
- 1717
- 01:59:28,037 --> 01:59:31,999
- ...pays off in this scene, I think,
- because we know this character.
- 1718
- 01:59:32,207 --> 01:59:34,668
- We know the young kid.
- We know who he is.
- 1719
- 01:59:34,918 --> 01:59:36,545
- Andrea, I love you.
- 1720
- 01:59:37,504 --> 01:59:38,756
- I love you, Ange.
- 1721
- 01:59:39,548 --> 01:59:40,758
- Honey, I love you.
- 1722
- 01:59:42,509 --> 01:59:44,344
- I love you, Danny. I'm sorry.
- 1723
- 01:59:44,511 --> 01:59:48,974
- I'm sorry I'm here
- and not there with you.
- 1724
- 01:59:49,433 --> 01:59:53,228
- Can anybody hear this?
- I can't stand this anymore.
- 1725
- 01:59:53,437 --> 01:59:55,981
- One thirty meters.
- That's 39 out from optimal.
- 1726
- 01:59:56,148 --> 01:59:58,192
- Two red. No shot. Still at two red.
- 1727
- 01:59:58,359 --> 02:00:02,112
- I need sights on targets.
- I need three targets green.
- 1728
- 02:00:05,574 --> 02:00:07,618
- Don't kill him!
- 1729
- 02:00:07,785 --> 02:00:09,828
- The elders are coming.
- 1730
- 02:00:09,995 --> 02:00:11,372
- We will get our money.
- 1731
- 02:00:11,538 --> 02:00:13,957
- You are both idiots.
- 1732
- 02:00:14,124 --> 02:00:15,709
- No one is coming.
- 1733
- 02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:23,634
- When you make a film
- and you direct a film...
- 1734
- 02:00:25,385 --> 02:00:28,764
- ...when you look at it back--
- At least I find, anyway.
- 1735
- 02:00:28,931 --> 02:00:32,393
- --often my overwhelming feeling...
- 1736
- 02:00:32,601 --> 02:00:37,022
- ...is of the mastery of all that work...
- 1737
- 02:00:37,981 --> 02:00:42,528
- ...that you've been able to be around.
- 1738
- 02:00:42,861 --> 02:00:44,029
- It's almost like:
- 1739
- 02:00:44,947 --> 02:00:48,033
- Isn't that wonderfully shot?
- Isn't that wonderfully performed?
- 1740
- 02:00:48,242 --> 02:00:50,369
- Isn't Tom magnificent there?
- 1741
- 02:00:50,577 --> 02:00:53,997
- Isn't that group environment
- in the control room magnificent?
- 1742
- 02:00:54,206 --> 02:00:55,707
- Isn't this beautifully edited?
- 1743
- 02:00:56,166 --> 02:01:00,587
- As a director, you're a jack of all trades
- but a master of none.
- 1744
- 02:01:00,796 --> 02:01:03,215
- But you're surrounded by masters.
- 1745
- 02:01:03,423 --> 02:01:09,221
- And it leaves you with a feeling
- of tremendous humility, I think...
- 1746
- 02:01:09,471 --> 02:01:15,436
- ...that your film has been made
- by so many hands.
- 1747
- 02:01:17,271 --> 02:01:22,734
- And that it can end up
- by fashioning this moment.
- 1748
- 02:01:27,823 --> 02:01:29,533
- Shock.
- 1749
- 02:01:30,576 --> 02:01:32,411
- Violence.
- 1750
- 02:01:33,203 --> 02:01:35,205
- Resolution.
- 1751
- 02:01:35,956 --> 02:01:39,293
- Safety. Confusion.
- 1752
- 02:01:39,793 --> 02:01:41,420
- Horror.
- 1753
- 02:01:45,883 --> 02:01:50,679
- A great, great actor fashioning
- a great, great moment in cinema...
- 1754
- 02:01:50,888 --> 02:01:52,639
- ...I think, for me.
- 1755
- 02:02:16,580 --> 02:02:19,124
- We're gonna get you out of here
- and get you home.
- 1756
- 02:02:20,626 --> 02:02:25,422
- Ending this film was a great challenge.
- 1757
- 02:02:25,631 --> 02:02:28,800
- There were so many obvious ways
- you could end it.
- 1758
- 02:02:29,801 --> 02:02:35,098
- And however you end it,
- you have to resolve your characters.
- 1759
- 02:02:36,308 --> 02:02:41,146
- As surely as you have to set them up,
- you have to resolve them, pay them off.
- 1760
- 02:02:43,732 --> 02:02:45,943
- Most of all...
- 1761
- 02:02:47,694 --> 02:02:50,906
- ...I wanted it not to feel triumphant.
- 1762
- 02:02:52,324 --> 02:02:54,952
- I wanted it to feel real.
- 1763
- 02:02:56,411 --> 02:02:58,205
- This way.
- 1764
- 02:03:01,124 --> 02:03:03,293
- -Watch your step.
- -Step.
- 1765
- 02:03:07,256 --> 02:03:09,007
- Careful, sir.
- 1766
- 02:03:11,677 --> 02:03:15,180
- There's something about this story...
- 1767
- 02:03:15,639 --> 02:03:20,185
- ...of four armed, desperate young men
- from Somalia attacking a large ship...
- 1768
- 02:03:20,394 --> 02:03:22,187
- ...taking the captain hostage.
- 1769
- 02:03:23,146 --> 02:03:28,652
- Trying to take him back to Somalia
- before anyone can rescue him.
- 1770
- 02:03:29,361 --> 02:03:32,864
- That speaks to larger forces
- in our world, I think.
- 1771
- 02:03:34,241 --> 02:03:37,411
- And larger challenges that we face.
- 1772
- 02:03:37,995 --> 02:03:39,621
- It's a crime story, really.
- 1773
- 02:03:41,248 --> 02:03:46,253
- A story of crime and retribution,
- as all great crime stories should be.
- 1774
- 02:03:47,879 --> 02:03:53,802
- A story from the far edges...
- 1775
- 02:03:54,011 --> 02:03:56,596
- ...the far oceans of the global economy.
- 1776
- 02:03:58,473 --> 02:04:02,728
- A story about four men locked out...
- 1777
- 02:04:03,937 --> 02:04:05,480
- ...trying to take their prize.
- 1778
- 02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:10,235
- And what it means to an ordinary man.
- 1779
- 02:04:10,527 --> 02:04:13,030
- A man a bit like my father.
- 1780
- 02:04:13,238 --> 02:04:15,991
- A man who'd spent his life at sea.
- 1781
- 02:04:16,158 --> 02:04:17,909
- Can you talk?
- 1782
- 02:04:18,076 --> 02:04:19,911
- -Can you tell me what's going on?
- -Yeah.
- 1783
- 02:04:20,078 --> 02:04:22,289
- So when he's finally safe...
- 1784
- 02:04:22,497 --> 02:04:24,708
- Are you okay?
- Because you don't look okay.
- 1785
- 02:04:25,542 --> 02:04:29,838
- ...the shock and the confusion...
- 1786
- 02:04:31,506 --> 02:04:33,759
- ...is our shock and confusion,
- I think.
- 1787
- 02:04:35,802 --> 02:04:39,306
- What do we think
- about what we've seen?
- 1788
- 02:04:39,514 --> 02:04:42,059
- How do we make sense of it?
- 1789
- 02:04:42,851 --> 02:04:44,895
- The guilty have been punished.
- 1790
- 02:04:45,103 --> 02:04:47,564
- The innocent man is free.
- 1791
- 02:04:48,649 --> 02:04:49,941
- The tension is over.
- 1792
- 02:04:50,567 --> 02:04:53,904
- We're gonna put this on,
- get your heart rate and oxygen level...
- 1793
- 02:04:54,071 --> 02:04:56,031
- -...make sure you're breathing.
- -Okay.
- 1794
- 02:04:56,198 --> 02:05:00,160
- -I want you to keep doing that, okay?
- -Gonna put this on your finger.
- 1795
- 02:05:00,327 --> 02:05:02,537
- Can you tell me what happened
- to your head?
- 1796
- 02:05:02,704 --> 02:05:04,373
- Put it on your finger.
- 1797
- 02:05:05,207 --> 02:05:06,875
- They....
- 1798
- 02:05:10,253 --> 02:05:14,383
- And I think in this scene...
- 1799
- 02:05:15,092 --> 02:05:19,054
- ...Tom explores the reality of that.
- 1800
- 02:05:19,221 --> 02:05:21,014
- I want you to look at me and breathe.
- 1801
- 02:05:21,223 --> 02:05:22,265
- -Understand?
- -Yeah.
- 1802
- 02:05:22,432 --> 02:05:23,725
- Okay, all right.
- 1803
- 02:05:25,060 --> 02:05:29,690
- He dares to explore vulnerability.
- 1804
- 02:05:30,941 --> 02:05:32,567
- Vulnerability with control.
- 1805
- 02:05:32,776 --> 02:05:36,613
- Vulnerability with insight.
- 1806
- 02:05:38,615 --> 02:05:41,535
- The truest power of acting, really.
- 1807
- 02:05:42,202 --> 02:05:46,248
- To make you feel
- that you're really there.
- 1808
- 02:05:46,456 --> 02:05:49,960
- That you've really lived through it.
- That it's meant something to you.
- 1809
- 02:05:52,003 --> 02:05:58,427
- But that meaning remaining elusive...
- 1810
- 02:06:00,178 --> 02:06:04,307
- ...whilst the personal cost of it
- is clear and true.
- 1811
- 02:06:04,516 --> 02:06:06,184
- That's brilliant acting for me.
- 1812
- 02:06:08,061 --> 02:06:09,396
- A great way to end, I think.
- 1813
- 02:06:09,604 --> 02:06:11,857
- The only way, as it turned out,
- to end this film.
- 1814
- 02:06:12,482 --> 02:06:15,902
- You'll be able to call them
- as soon as you are taken care of.
- 1815
- 02:06:18,196 --> 02:06:20,282
- Sir, I need you to breathe, okay?
- 1816
- 02:06:20,449 --> 02:06:23,034
- You are safe and you are fine.
- 1817
- 02:06:23,827 --> 02:06:25,704
- It's gonna be okay.
- 1818
- 02:06:26,788 --> 02:06:28,999
- Everything's gonna be okay.
- 1819
- 02:06:29,541 --> 02:06:35,505
- That was the question
- that was asked in the first scene.
- 1820
- 02:06:35,714 --> 02:06:38,550
- That everything is gonna be okay,
- isn't it?
- 1821
- 02:07:32,062 --> 02:07:36,274
- The men and women of the Truxtun
- were extraordinary...
- 1822
- 02:07:36,483 --> 02:07:38,443
- ...in their commitment to this film.
- 1823
- 02:07:38,652 --> 02:07:41,696
- You ask them, you meet them,
- you explain what you're trying to do.
- 1824
- 02:07:41,905 --> 02:07:44,366
- And they make a decision.
- Sometimes they help.
- 1825
- 02:07:44,574 --> 02:07:48,870
- They've helped on some films.
- They haven't helped on others. It's....
- 1826
- 02:07:49,454 --> 02:07:53,250
- The good thing is that when they help,
- they're with you a hundred percent...
- 1827
- 02:07:53,458 --> 02:07:55,627
- ...as they did in this case.
- 1828
- 02:07:58,839 --> 02:08:02,425
- Richard Phillips came to the set
- a couple of days into the shoot.
- 1829
- 02:08:02,634 --> 02:08:08,682
- Tom had spent some time with him,
- quite a bit of time with him, earlier on.
- 1830
- 02:08:10,350 --> 02:08:12,769
- He was a very nice man.
- 1831
- 02:08:13,353 --> 02:08:16,231
- Every inch a Merchant Mariner.
- 1832
- 02:08:17,232 --> 02:08:22,862
- And one of the nicest things
- of the whole experience...
- 1833
- 02:08:23,071 --> 02:08:26,449
- ...was to show him and his wife the film
- when it was all over.
- 1834
- 02:08:26,658 --> 02:08:32,414
- And I remember Ange, his wife,
- coming out in floods of tears.
- 1835
- 02:08:32,622 --> 02:08:35,000
- I think she'd found it
- very, very overwhelming...
- 1836
- 02:08:35,208 --> 02:08:40,088
- ...to be taken that close
- to the experience.
- 1837
- 02:08:40,839 --> 02:08:44,384
- Richard is a very phlegmatic man.
- 1838
- 02:08:44,593 --> 02:08:47,178
- He said, "It's a good movie."
- He said:
- 1839
- 02:08:47,721 --> 02:08:51,224
- "But it's not the same
- as having a real gun put at your head."
- 1840
- 02:08:54,352 --> 02:08:58,106
- I think the more you can involve
- military professionals...
- 1841
- 02:08:58,315 --> 02:09:00,358
- ...if your film is set in their world...
- 1842
- 02:09:00,567 --> 02:09:04,905
- ...the better chance you've got
- of authenticity.
- 1843
- 02:09:05,113 --> 02:09:08,283
- And that was certainly the case here,
- you know?
- 1844
- 02:09:08,491 --> 02:09:12,203
- I think anybody who is familiar
- with those worlds...
- 1845
- 02:09:12,412 --> 02:09:15,749
- ...would say that this
- is a pretty accurate depiction...
- 1846
- 02:09:15,957 --> 02:09:19,628
- ...of how they respond
- to these kinds of emergencies.
- 1847
- 02:09:22,756 --> 02:09:26,259
- When Barry and I
- began discussing the movie...
- 1848
- 02:09:26,468 --> 02:09:31,181
- ...we initially thought
- we'd go the digital route.
- 1849
- 02:09:31,890 --> 02:09:35,935
- But in the end,
- we knew we would be on water.
- 1850
- 02:09:36,144 --> 02:09:41,191
- We knew we would be
- in a lot of small skiffs.
- 1851
- 02:09:41,483 --> 02:09:45,362
- And I was worried
- we might have technical problems.
- 1852
- 02:09:45,612 --> 02:09:50,158
- And in the end,
- we chose to go back to 35.
- 1853
- 02:09:50,367 --> 02:09:55,163
- Although some of the stuff in the skiffs
- we shot on 16.
- 1854
- 02:09:55,372 --> 02:09:59,876
- Because you get a bigger lens,
- and a lighter weight.
- 1855
- 02:10:00,085 --> 02:10:02,671
- And it gave us the maneuverability
- we wanted...
- 1856
- 02:10:02,879 --> 02:10:08,426
- ...in very, very dynamic,
- physical, challenging conditions.
- 1857
- 02:10:11,388 --> 02:10:13,556
- Khat, khat.
- 1858
- 02:10:13,765 --> 02:10:17,018
- Khat is a plant. It's a leaf.
- 1859
- 02:10:17,394 --> 02:10:19,145
- And it's a drug.
- 1860
- 02:10:19,354 --> 02:10:21,856
- It's actually a little bit like a--
- 1861
- 02:10:22,065 --> 02:10:25,819
- Not as strong,
- but going towards like a coca leaf.
- 1862
- 02:10:26,027 --> 02:10:32,200
- And it's a drug that's ubiquitously used
- throughout Somalia...
- 1863
- 02:10:32,409 --> 02:10:35,078
- ...and elsewhere in the Horn of Africa.
- 1864
- 02:10:35,286 --> 02:10:39,040
- And people who live on the water
- particularly use it...
- 1865
- 02:10:39,249 --> 02:10:43,962
- ...because it combats the effects
- of seasickness.
- 1866
- 02:10:47,173 --> 02:10:48,383
- I'm pretty good, actually.
- 1867
- 02:10:48,591 --> 02:10:51,136
- Tom and I, we were fine.
- And, you know, a few of us--
- 1868
- 02:10:51,344 --> 02:10:54,055
- But some people found it
- very challenging.
- 1869
- 02:10:54,264 --> 02:10:58,184
- But, no, I was all right.
- I don't really get seasick, luckily.
- 1870
- 02:11:01,187 --> 02:11:05,692
- One of the attractions of the film was
- working with Tom, from my point of view.
- 1871
- 02:11:05,900 --> 02:11:07,652
- And he and I knew each other...
- 1872
- 02:11:07,861 --> 02:11:10,238
- ...and we'd talked
- about finding something to do.
- 1873
- 02:11:10,447 --> 02:11:14,075
- So when this came up,
- I jumped at it because I thought--
- 1874
- 02:11:14,284 --> 02:11:18,496
- You know, he was already involved.
- But I thought he was perfect for the part.
- 1875
- 02:11:18,705 --> 02:11:23,710
- And, you know, I wasn't gonna miss
- the chance to team up with him.
- 1876
- 02:11:23,918 --> 02:11:29,007
- Tom's just a wonderful actor
- and a total gentleman, you know?
- 1877
- 02:11:29,215 --> 02:11:34,179
- And he had to put up with a lot
- on this film.
- 1878
- 02:11:37,182 --> 02:11:39,809
- So I just wanna say a big thank you...
- 1879
- 02:11:40,018 --> 02:11:44,647
- ...to everybody
- who helped us make this film.
- 1880
- 02:11:45,398 --> 02:11:47,567
- And there were many of them.
- 1881
- 02:11:47,776 --> 02:11:52,614
- And this is Paul Greengrass,
- signing off...
- 1882
- 02:11:52,822 --> 02:11:55,950
- ...on the director's commentary
- for Captain Phillips.
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