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  1. [11:05:29 AM] cats_only: :P
  2. [12:23:12 PM] Ishman: real informative comment anh :V
  3. [12:23:26 PM] Ishman: oh huh
  4. [12:23:34 PM] Ishman: no shitty first post comments on this yet
  5. [12:23:55 PM] Ishman: now there's one
  6. [12:25:01 PM] Danny Chang: ah
  7. [12:25:04 PM] Danny Chang: my blog followers would get it
  8. [12:25:16 PM] Danny Chang: i've mentioned the series a few times already
  9. [12:25:22 PM] Danny Chang: and hi-jacked a nanodesu poll
  10. [12:25:29 PM] Danny Chang: with this series
  11. [12:25:51 PM] Ishman: I was more refering to the lack of elaboration on the changes that you dislike, rather than anything about the series itself.
  12. [12:26:08 PM] Ishman: I'm always interested in changes between the web novel series of something and the light novel.
  13. [12:26:10 PM] Danny Chang: oh
  14. [12:26:12 PM] Danny Chang: bleh
  15. [12:26:15 PM] Danny Chang: cbb
  16. [12:26:27 PM] Danny Chang: not like i've read the whole thing yet either
  17. [12:26:27 PM] Ishman: Especially when they are positive/negative changes, and not just "Fixed this retard's spelling"
  18. [12:26:42 PM] Danny Chang: nah
  19. [12:26:48 PM] Ishman: Like shieldbro
  20. [12:26:54 PM] Danny Chang: basically the heroine has been bedridden
  21. [12:26:56 PM] Ishman: Dat web novel turbo troll ending
  22. [12:27:02 PM] Danny Chang: due to a poisonous arrow she takes to the chest early in the series
  23. [12:27:03 PM] Ishman: Like reading m night shamalamdingdong
  24. [12:27:14 PM] Ishman: "HAH! JUST KIDDING, IT WAS ALL A DREAM!"
  25. [12:27:15 PM] Danny Chang: after she finally heals they head to a city
  26. [12:27:19 PM] Ishman: "WHAT A TWEEST!"
  27. [12:27:25 PM] Danny Chang: and there, she has the first major argument with the mc
  28. [12:27:33 PM] Danny Chang: and takes independent action for the first time
  29. [12:27:40 PM] Danny Chang: instead of clinging to him for support
  30. [12:27:53 PM] Danny Chang: at the same time, during that argument she harshly condemns him
  31. [12:27:56 PM] Danny Chang: for a character flaw
  32. [12:28:03 PM] Danny Chang: that's been present and ever-growing since vol1
  33. [12:28:05 PM] Danny Chang: and for good reason
  34. [12:28:06 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: lemme guess
  35. [12:28:11 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: They took the argument out?:
  36. [12:28:14 PM] Danny Chang: as in, good reason (he had it)
  37. [12:28:20 PM] Danny Chang: and good reason (she berated him)
  38. [12:28:24 PM] Danny Chang: no, what happens is that
  39. [12:28:29 PM] Danny Chang: he coldly says
  40. [12:28:35 PM] Danny Chang: 'fine. go do whatever you want.'
  41. [12:28:36 PM] Danny Chang: in this case
  42. [12:28:39 PM] Danny Chang: being risking her own life
  43. [12:28:42 PM] Danny Chang: to save a kidnapped child
  44. [12:28:45 PM] Danny Chang: that isn't a stranger to them
  45. [12:28:58 PM] Danny Chang: (the character flaw is that he's been really cold and calculating to preserve their two lives)
  46. [12:29:14 PM] Ishman: That's not a fucking character flaw in any realistically dangerous setting
  47. [12:29:14 PM] Danny Chang: (and well, understandable, since he thought he had a death sentence, but was finally blessed by a new one in this world)
  48. [12:29:25 PM] Danny Chang: That's not a fucking character flaw in any realistically dangerous settingdepends on your ethics i guess
  49. [12:29:25 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: It completely is, though
  50. [12:29:27 PM] Ishman: Unless you give your main characters supernatural luck
  51. [12:29:34 PM] Ishman: My ethics are amoral though.
  52. [12:29:36 PM] Danny Chang: if you don't think that acting friendly to villagers
  53. [12:29:38 PM] Danny Chang: that shielded you
  54. [12:29:44 PM] Ishman: I'm a really, really terrible person.
  55. [12:29:44 PM] Danny Chang: while your companion was near death
  56. [12:29:46 PM] Danny Chang: and then inside
  57. [12:29:54 PM] Danny Chang: plotting to use them as bait/fodder for bandits
  58. [12:29:55 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: That's like
  59. [12:29:57 PM] Danny Chang: while you make a run for it
  60. [12:30:03 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: "I'm not gonna destroy you" territory
  61. [12:30:04 PM] Danny Chang: isn't a character flaw
  62. [12:30:09 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: even for a maou
  63. [12:30:10 PM] Danny Chang: remind me never to go anywhere with you irl ishman
  64. [12:30:10 PM] Danny Chang: anyways
  65. [12:30:16 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: And he uses them as bait?
  66. [12:30:17 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: asshole
  67. [12:30:26 PM] Danny Chang: she harshly berates him for his coldness
  68. [12:30:30 PM] Danny Chang: and is infuriated
  69. [12:30:38 PM] Danny Chang: when he claims that this girl has nothing to do with them
  70. [12:30:47 PM] Danny Chang: so she runs off
  71. [12:30:52 PM] Danny Chang: and carefully takes down the base herself
  72. [12:30:54 PM] Danny Chang: extracts the girl
  73. [12:31:07 PM] Danny Chang: and she sees him ridiculously prepared for war
  74. [12:31:07 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: This is the WN, right?
  75. [12:31:10 PM] Ishman: I'm a normal person IRL, it's just that if you as my opinion about things you probably would not like the answer, is all.
  76. [12:31:11 PM] Danny Chang: with heaps of quivers
  77. [12:31:18 PM] Danny Chang: heaps and heaps of arrows
  78. [12:31:23 PM] Ishman: Gotta be normal to engage in society.
  79. [12:31:26 PM] Danny Chang: and sweating from running there in a panic
  80. [12:31:31 PM] Danny Chang: yeah, this is wn chris
  81. [12:31:42 PM] Danny Chang: he looks so silly and panicked for her safety
  82. [12:31:45 PM] Danny Chang: that they completely make up
  83. [12:31:50 PM] Danny Chang: she's a softy
  84. [12:32:00 PM] Danny Chang: so she apologises for saying things that were unnecessarily cruel
  85. [12:32:04 PM] Danny Chang: and well, she was right to do so
  86. [12:32:26 PM] Danny Chang: because you can't really understand how a person who's been a vegetable headed for death for years
  87. [12:32:31 PM] Danny Chang: really feels about getting a second chance at life
  88. [12:32:38 PM] Danny Chang: on the other hand he realises that living like that isn't really living either
  89. [12:32:47 PM] Danny Chang: if he always has to life in fear
  90. [12:32:55 PM] Danny Chang: and suppressing his guilt
  91. [12:32:57 PM] Danny Chang: anyway
  92. [12:33:05 PM] Ishman: Sure is emotions
  93. [12:33:11 PM] Danny Chang: ln changes it so that the little girl is used as a hostage
  94. [12:33:21 PM] Danny Chang: the heroine is forced to disarm herself
  95. [12:33:27 PM] Danny Chang: and gets on her knees
  96. [12:33:33 PM] Danny Chang: the dude comes running in like a badass
  97. [12:33:38 PM] Danny Chang: and starts sniping people
  98. [12:33:45 PM] Danny Chang: it's hard to explain if you haven't read it
  99. [12:33:47 PM] Ishman: That's... a strange change.
  100. [12:33:51 PM] Danny Chang: because you don't know the tone it was written in
  101. [12:33:53 PM] Danny Chang: but it sort of
  102. [12:33:55 PM] Danny Chang: undermines
  103. [12:34:01 PM] Danny Chang: the decision she made
  104. [12:34:02 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: Shit.
  105. [12:34:13 PM] Danny Chang: in the original she becomes famous
  106. [12:34:15 PM] Ishman: I absolutely understand where the author was coming from with the first scenario, the second seems very odd to change it to.
  107. [12:34:16 PM] Danny Chang: for being a hero
  108. [12:34:18 PM] Chris Rhaye /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\: I just posted a comment on your blog by accident.
  109. [12:34:19 PM] Ishman: That alters the whole tone
  110. [12:34:21 PM] Danny Chang: who saves the girl all on her own
  111. [12:34:43 PM] Danny Chang: ewll
  112. [12:34:47 PM] Danny Chang: second is not absolutely without merit
  113. [12:34:57 PM] Danny Chang: coming in and saving her is as good a reconciliation as any
  114. [12:35:01 PM] Danny Chang: but it undermines the choice she made
  115. [12:35:08 PM] Danny Chang: and her ability to get things done by herself
  116. [12:35:13 PM] Danny Chang: she's already quite emotionally dependent on him
  117. [12:35:19 PM] Danny Chang: (altho he is the same on her)
  118. [12:35:29 PM] Ishman: This sounds like some executive meddling to make the Main Character more likeable and to prove him right, instead of have him develop as a character by failing and learning from the occurences resultant thereof
  119. [12:35:32 PM] Danny Chang: but after seeing the battles he fought solo
  120. [12:35:36 PM] Danny Chang: to get the antidote for her etc.
  121. [12:35:41 PM] Danny Chang: very fierce battles btw
  122. [12:35:46 PM] Danny Chang: it was the first time seeing her in action too
  123. [12:35:57 PM] Danny Chang: This sounds like some executive meddling to make the Main Character more likeable and to prove him right, instead of have him develop as a character by failing and learning from the occurences resultant thereofyeah
  124. [12:35:59 PM] Danny Chang: in the original
  125. [12:36:04 PM] Danny Chang: he gets there after the action is done
  126. [12:36:10 PM] Danny Chang: but panicked and a bit silly looking
  127. [12:36:17 PM] Ishman: https://gyazo.com/22238c8466f77c8b5f8f103900062b0e
  128. [12:36:19 PM] Danny Chang: and completely ready to risk his life for her again
  129. [12:36:24 PM] Danny Chang: so the tone is different
  130. [12:36:29 PM] Danny Chang: he matures in personality
  131. [12:36:46 PM] Danny Chang: but isn't made out to be this saviour dude
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