3:53 PM] Backo: everyone on discovery is a he
[3:53 PM] Backo: that is the rule
[3:53 PM] Mep: yep
[3:53 PM] Durandal: That shit is toxic ^^^
[3:53 PM] Durandal: And needs to stop.
[3:54 PM] Mep: looks like we found a girl
[3:54 PM] Durandal: No, seriously. Driving away an entire demographic because "haha lelelel no girls on the intarwebs" gets you nothing except a potentially emptier server.
[3:54 PM] Mep: actually
[3:54 PM] Mep: it's me
[3:54 PM] Durandal: Like, there's literally no reason for it.
[3:54 PM] Mep: i'm a girl
[3:54 PM] Durandal: And it has a negative impact.
[3:54 PM] Durandal: So why do it?
[3:55 PM] Mep: justin shut the actual fuck up lmao it's a joke
[3:55 PM] Backo: do women feel driven away when I make the everyone's a he on the discovery joke?
[3:55 PM] Durandal: Okay, but here's the thing.
[3:55 PM] Durandal: I know you're joking.
[3:55 PM] Mep: no there is no thing
[3:55 PM] Durandal: Do new people who join factions know that you're joking? Not really.
[3:55 PM] Durandal: I've known some who do, yes.
[3:55 PM] Mep: who gives a fuck
[3:55 PM] Mep: stop being a drama queen
[3:55 PM] Mep: go do something else
[3:55 PM] Mep: like drink beer
[3:55 PM] Mep: drinking beer is a good thing
[3:56 PM] Durandal: Beer is nice, but I'd rather you not be a complete moron and potentially empty out the server because "I wanna be a dick."
[3:56 PM] Mep: anyway
[3:56 PM] Backo: it's discriminating to think women are too womanly to handle banter
[3:56 PM] Mep: fuck you backo
[3:56 PM] Backo: fuck you too mep
[3:56 PM] Backo: go eat a dick
[3:56 PM] Mep: no
[3:56 PM] Mep: u
[3:57 PM] Durandal: There's a difference between banter and a prevailing attitude of "you literally don't exist, you're less of a person because I don't believe you are what you say you are."
[3:57 PM] Durandal: Again,
[3:57 PM] Mep: didn't even log gmg once
[3:57 PM] Durandal: What does that shit gain you?
[3:57 PM] Mep: get out of my faction
[3:57 PM] Mep: stupid bulgarian man
[3:57 PM] Backo: some people get offended when I pvp them
[3:57 PM] Backo: should I stop that too?
[3:57 PM] Backo: in fact me not around is the best way not to get anyone angry at me
[3:57 PM] Durandal: Are you going to answer my question with an answer, or more questions?
[3:58 PM] Backo: it's a joke
[3:58 PM] Backo: I like to joke
[3:58 PM] Durandal: Ok but can we not joke for 5 mins and have an actual discussion here?
[3:58 PM] Backo: I've joked about much more rude stuff
[3:58 PM] Backo: than no women on the net
[3:58 PM] Backo: about what exactly?
[3:58 PM] Durandal: Its basic maths.
[3:58 PM] Backo: here we joke about shit such as
[3:58 PM] Durandal: You do a thing, that might drive people away, from an already emptying server. This thing, gains you nothing.
[3:58 PM] Backo: Antonio's country not being real
[3:58 PM] Durandal: Why do you do the thing?
[3:58 PM] Backo: and just being serbs in denial
[3:59 PM] Backo: why do we do that?
[3:59 PM] Backo: imagine leveling a whole nation to
[3:59 PM] Durandal: Yeah ok but I'm not talking about here. This happens everywhere on Disco.
[3:59 PM] Backo: "serbs in denial"
[3:59 PM] Durandal: So do we not talk about it here because it isn't relevant here? Where do we hold such a discussion?
[3:59 PM] Mep: with someone else
[3:59 PM] Backo: if I can't be myself on this server
[3:59 PM] Mep: because this is the give backo abuse channel
[3:59 PM] Backo: out of fear for offending someone else
[3:59 PM] Backo: I won't be on this server
[3:59 PM] Backo: : )
[3:59 PM] Backo: simple as that
[3:59 PM] Durandal: It has literally nothing to do with offense and you know it.
[3:59 PM] Mep: oh my goddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[3:59 PM] Durandal: You're being a stubborn dickhead because you don't want to be wrong.
[3:59 PM] Backo: find me 1 woman I've driven away
[4:00 PM] Backo: from here
[4:00 PM] Durandal: Fuck all about being "you"
[4:00 PM] Backo: with my sexist joke
[4:00 PM] Durandal: You personally? No, I don't think I can. Women who have been driven away from Disco by toxicity? Brb, grabbing two dozen.
[4:00 PM] Backo: like you're just like those people who get offended on behalf of the group that's supposed to take offense
[4:04 PM] Durandal: No Vasko I've got pretty good reason to be offended. What I'm offended by is people I respect doing shit that doesn't matter which can potentially empty out an already empty server, something you complain quite often about yourself. Basically what I'm taking away from this conversation is that you want Discovery to be big and great again because that's a thing you talk about often, about how we need to do things to raise the player count, keep people online, keep them ingame, etc.

But when I suggest that your actions might have a negative impact on that, you go, "Oh, well those aren't the kind of people I want on the server anyway."

Its offensive to me as a developer, because I put unspeakable, unthinkable, amounts of time and effort into Disco, and just... it's a dumb thing to do. There's no net gain for you or anyone else in memeing about "hah, no girls on the internet." in a place where we need everyone we can get, whether they're a man, woman, and whether or not that way.