<owltiem>	pfft
	<owltiem>	the trials aspirants must undergo before they become space marines
	<owltiem>	one option is they drug you up, man
	<owltiem>	see how you come out of a bad trip
	<Neev>	Hahaha WOW
	<owltiem>	ultramarines officially and canonically do
	<owltiem>	the copoutest one
	<owltiem>	jfc
	<owltiem>	duel vs a full-on space marine
	<owltiem>	come on
	<owltiem>	that's a copout
	<owltiem>	because like
	<owltiem>	INHERENTLY the space marine has already decided whether or not you get to be one
	<owltiem>	and is pulling his punches
	<owltiem>	that's like
	<owltiem>	the for-show trial
	<owltiem>	literally
	<owltiem>	you go out
	<owltiem>	and you find the cute ones
	<owltiem>	and you tel lthem to hit you as hard as they can
	<owltiem>	and if they punch like a girl you leave them home
	<owltiem>	and otherwise they get to get in the van
	<owltiem>	that's how THAT works
	<Neev>	That's the biggest cop out ever, you fuckin' losers
	<owltiem>	everybody else fuckin
	<owltiem>	fights to the death
	<owltiem>	or some shit like that
	<owltiem>	ultramarines literally just pick you out and make sure you don't punch like a girl
	<Neev>	Yeah, in the Blood Angels chapter there's apparently this big ol' competition thingie and people show up from all over (JUST GETTING THERE IS HARD BECAUSE BAAL IS A SHIT HOLE) and fight and even /competing/ is considered a big fucking deal.
	<Neev>	Plateo gives Mormonius the finger.
	<Neev>	Two fingers, even
	<Neev>	I hope your sh-sh-sheepicorn unravels
	<owltiem>	pffft
	<owltiem>	that's got to be yet another reason why ultramarines are such stuck up little pricks tho'
	<owltiem>	like not only
	<owltiem>	are they the sons of ROBOT GIRLYMAN
	<owltiem>	they also like
	<owltiem>	woolooloo i beat up a space marine when i was 12
	<owltiem>	ok let's go full random
	<owltiem>	where my d10 at
	<Neev>	Awwwyis
	<Neev>	Full random worked surprisingly well for making Ullman.
	<owltiem>	WHY WAS THE CHAPTER FOUNDED?
	<owltiem>	a psychic said so
	<owltiem>	straight up
	<owltiem>	aw man
	<owltiem>	we borrowed our geneseed from the ultramarines?
	<owltiem>	that's lame
	<owltiem>	we're an ultramarine successor chapter :(
	<owltiem>	otoh we done fucked that shit up and now we got a porblem with it
	<owltiem>	we are flawed
	<owltiem>	we have broken
	<owltiem>	the geneseed
	<owltiem>	of robot girlyman
	<owltiem>	:C
	<owltiem>	our chapter demeanor is being sneaky motherfuckers (see but don't be seen: the battle-brother understands well the value of maintaining a silent, unseen vigil on the foe, striking only when his target is at its weakest and most vulnerable. the chapter stalks the night and the shadows, approaching the foe from unanticipated quarters before disappearing once more. suche chapters foster...
	<owltiem>	...patience and wily cunning in their battle-brothers, and regard as rash and unsubtle those who charge headlong into combat.)
	<owltiem>	...and the flaw
	<owltiem>	in the geneseed
	<owltiem>	of robot girlyman
	<owltiem>	is that we want to eat people
	<owltiem>	like for serious
	<owltiem>	we want nothing
	<Neev>	Hahahaha
	<owltiem>	so much
	<owltiem>	as we want to sneak up behind some dude
	<owltiem>	in the night
	<owltiem>	and eat hi
	<owltiem>	m
	<Neev>	So you're Cannibal Spies?
	<owltiem>	yup
	<owltiem>	cannibal batman
	<owltiem>	there's a bit in one of the very first saint stories where simon is like out to save roger from something stupid roger did himself, becuase that's how roger rolls, and this involves p much doing the classic hide-behind-the-curtain thing only it wasn't literally a curtain, anyway it's dark and there's this bad guy like right in front of simon and completely oblivious, and simon spends an...
	<owltiem>	...entire paragraph on 1) the realization that the guy is close enough that he could bite him, like, seriously, he's RIGHT THERE, it would be NOTHING, and 2) convincing himself not to do that. he only succeeds in keeping himself from biting the guy by the realization that the dude probably hasn't bathed recently and so would taste bad.
	<owltiem>	i shit
	<owltiem>	you not.
	<Neev>	That's...very strange
	<owltiem>	back to the cannibal spy chapter: the chapter flaw is that we look down on anything that ain't hand to hand combat, if you don't kill him with your own two hands then It. Don't. Count.
	<Neev>	It's like Charteris or whatever his name is REALLY WANTED to write about vampires but the time just wasn't right
	<owltiem>	and then roll for modifiers we got strength and cunning - +5 perception & +5 strength
	<owltiem>	which liek
	<owltiem>	those last two
	<owltiem>	actually go really well with being cannibal spies
	<Neev>	Yeah, that's actually...uh, not bad at all
	<owltiem>	we once had a chief librarian who was really badass but then the officio assassinorum had him killed so we don't like those guys
	<Neev>	Hahaha assholes
	<owltiem>	our homeworld is a feral world covered in deserts
	<owltiem>	but we don't actually talk to the natives
	<owltiem>	except when we show up to steal their children
	<owltiem>	omfg and i rolled stealth on the combat doctrine table too
	<owltiem>	the dice are like
	<owltiem>	making sense
	<owltiem>	wtf is this
	<Neev>	It's always weird when that happens
	<owltiem>	solo mode ability: bein fast
	<owltiem>	squad mode abilities: bein fast /again/, and if another dude in the killteam gets deaded, we get +4 on our rolls to avenge the dude
	<owltiem>	and we have no apothecaries
	<Neev>	So you're incredibly insular cannibal spies who steal babies from the credulous peasants on your feral world. Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiix
	<owltiem>	and we like to have the chaplain bless our knives before we go kill people with them
	<owltiem>	that's our signature weapon
	<owltiem>	havin the chaplain bless it
	<owltiem>	not the knife part
	<owltiem>	just all of them
	<Neev>	Good times
	<owltiem>	and apparently
	<owltiem>	we, too
	<owltiem>	love the fuck
	<owltiem>	out of robot girlyman
	<owltiem>	i legit rolled revere the primarch
	<owltiem>	EVEN WHEN YOU'RE A CANNIBAL SPY
	<owltiem>	YOU CAN'T ESCAPE BEING DESCENDED FROM ULTRAMARINES
	<owltiem>	we are currently overstrength because the emperor's tarot told us to be
	<owltiem>	we're good friends with the ecclesiarchy
	<owltiem>	but we hate the shit out of 1) the ordo assasinorum and 2) orks
	<owltiem>	AAAAAAAAAAH YESSSSSSSSSSSSS RANDOM ROLL FOR NAMES
	<owltiem>	"Golden Ultima"?
	<Neev>	That sounds like a Final Fantasy weapon or something
	<owltiem>	i rolled it again and got Ultra Skulls