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  1. 20:39 -!- repkam09 [~mark@cpe-66-66-156-88.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ritlug
  2. 20:39 -!- Topic for #ritlug: RITLUG -- Weekly meetings are 4pm Fridays in GOL-2560 (NSSA Small Database Lab)
  3. 20:39 -!- Topic set by papertigers [~papertige@pool-98-118-156-85.bflony.fios.verizon.net] [Sun Mar 23 03:46:20 2014]
  4. 20:39 [Users #ritlug]
  5. 20:39 [@ChanServ] [ bahamas10] [ repkam09  ] [ robopt ] [ thenaterhood]
  6. 20:39 [ axk4545 ] [ dzho     ] [ ritlug-bot] [ squiffy] [ xforever1313]
  7. 20:39 -!- Irssi: #ritlug: Total of 10 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
  8. 20:39 -!- Channel #ritlug created Sat Sep 27 21:44:10 2008
  9. 20:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #ritlug was synced in 5 secs
  10. 20:39 < axk4545> at least we have a chanserv
  11. 20:40 < repkam09> Ooo yep
  12. 20:40 < axk4545> ##ritcs2018 lost theirs.
  13. 20:41 < axk4545> it literally left a few minutes after I joined
  14. 20:42 < repkam09> Nate, do you know who papertigers is IRL?
  15. 20:43 < thenaterhood> no idea
  16. 20:43 < thenaterhood> i think we had this search at one point before
  17. 20:43 < repkam09> Yeah...
  18. 20:43 < repkam09> Looks like its Michael Zeller
  19. 20:43 < thenaterhood> ahhhh, okay
  20. 20:44 < thenaterhood> damn, i talked to him in person a few months ago too
  21. 20:44 < thenaterhood> surprised he's not on, actually
  22. 20:44 < repkam09> mailto:mike@mikezeller.net according to his npm profile
  23. 20:44 < axk4545> he the faculty sponsor?
  24. 20:44 < thenaterhood> no he's an rit grad
  25. 20:44 < repkam09> No, just an alum
  26. 20:44 < repkam09> Also https://twitter.com/papertigerss
  27. 20:45 < repkam09> Seems to be active on Twitter :p
  28. 20:45 < thenaterhood> i'll try to catch him on twitter then. don't know his email situation since his site points to another url
  29. 20:45 < repkam09> Yeah
  30. 20:47 < thenaterhood> i think we tried to talk to him at one point but didn't get anywhere but we'll see
  31. 20:47 < thenaterhood> room's pretty quiet either way though
  32. 20:47 < repkam09> What is the ritlug-bot?
  33. 20:47 < repkam09> What does that even do?
  34. 20:47 < axk4545> well there was the poke fight?
  35. 20:47 < thenaterhood> not a clue. fossbox has a bot too
  36. 20:47 < axk4545> *.
  37. 20:48 < axk4545> keepspammers out?
  38.  
  39. 20:48 < repkam09> Could be
  40. 20:49 < thenaterhood> looks like it's running on donatello?
  41. 20:49 < repkam09> Oooo
  42. 20:49 < thenaterhood> huh. apparently there's a slack/irc bridge
  43. 20:50 < axk4545> i just asked #rit-foss what theirs does. you mean donatello the CS machine or is that ritlug?
  44. 20:50 < thenaterhood> that's ours
  45. 20:50 < repkam09> Irssi is running on donatello
  46. 20:50 < repkam09> It might just be logging this chat to somewhere
  47. 20:51 < thenaterhood> probably the case
  48. 20:51 < repkam09> Started by kmg2728 who I imagine is Kevin?
  49. 20:51 < thenaterhood> yeah
  50. 20:51 < repkam09> Its in a tmux session
  51. 20:51 < thenaterhood> lol course it is
  52. 20:52 < axk4545> before this year ends we should find the physical location of ritlug servers so that the next group running it knows whenever it is
  53.                  they need to.
  54. 20:53 < thenaterhood> they're in the bioinformatics datacenter
  55. 20:53 < repkam09> Oops
  56. 20:53 < thenaterhood> lol i saw that
  57. 20:53 < repkam09> I typed in ritfoss on kevins account
  58. 20:53 < thenaterhood> yeeesss ya did
  59. 20:53 < axk4545> oh oops.
  60. 20:54 < axk4545> we need a map to them.
  61. 20:55 < thenaterhood> wouldn't really matter if you had one, you'd have to get the keys anyway
  62. 20:55 < repkam09> Got a response from Zeller. He said to ping him on IRC tomorrow and he will help. Hes not on a computer right now
  63. 20:55 < thenaterhood> oh sweet
  64. 20:56 < repkam09> I wonder if Kevin knows hes been logged in on donatello for.... god knows how long
  65. 20:56 < thenaterhood> he's usually on top of things like that so i bet not
  66. 20:56 < axk4545> i know. what i mean is we need to add to the stuff that get passed down to eboard info to allow them to access them if needed. who to
  67.                  contact, etc
  68. 20:56 < thenaterhood> yeah that's a work in progress, hence the runbook
  69. 20:57 < thenaterhood> feel free to open an issue on that actually if you have a thought for something that should go in it
  70. 20:57 < thenaterhood> unfortunately ritlug was super bad at keeping records and most things were passed down by tribal knowledge
  71. 20:57 < thenaterhood> tried to change that a few years ago but nobody was too into it, but since most of us eboarders graduate close together we
  72.                      actually need to do it for real
  73. 21:01 < axk4545> what is the github?
  74. 21:02 < thenaterhood> github.com/ritlug/runbook is what you're looking for
  75.  
  76. 21:02 < repkam09> ritlug-bot seems to be Clarie, not Kevin
  77. 21:02 < thenaterhood> right now it has how to post announcements, generally how to manage the website, how meetings go but that's all i've had a
  78.                       chance to do. adding as i think of things.
  79. 21:02 < thenaterhood> yeah it does
  80. 21:02 < axk4545> that would make sense.
  81. 21:08 < repkam09> Claire confirms that its her. And ritlug-bot just is that irssi window. She suggests just reimaging them all if we can and finding
  82.                   something new to do with it
  83. 21:09 < thenaterhood> or you know, finding something to do with it at all :P
  84. 21:09 < repkam09> Well, right ;)
  85. 21:10 < axk4545> does that mean this channel dies? also folding.stanford.edu
  86. 21:10 < repkam09> Nah, this channel should live on independent of our servers I would think
  87. 21:10 < thenaterhood> no, we don't host the channel ourselves, it's on freenode
  88. 21:11 < axk4545> folding@home seems a decent use for servers
  89. 21:11 < repkam09> They are pretty wimpy servers.. but maybe :p
  90. 21:11 < axk4545> and maybe the ritlug site. I ran folding@home on my 3 year old android phone.
  91. 21:11 < thenaterhood> one thing i just showed repkam09 is a slack/irc bridge. i know a number of people are interested in using slack so it could be
  92.                       something to check out
  93. 21:12 < axk4545> yeah. then those that want slack can have it and those that want irc, irc
  94. 21:12 < thenaterhood> the ritlug site is github pages, which is (hopefully) more accessible for people to contribute. not that anyone does, but well.
  95.                       wouldn't be a bad idea to mirror our github stuff though
  96. 21:12 < repkam09> We could have a workshop meeting on Friday, reinstall the servers, set up some of this stuff?
  97. 21:13 < thenaterhood> lol though, you don't know just how wimpy these servers are. 3 year old android phones are probably more powerful than these
  98.                       servers
  99. 21:13 < repkam09> Can we install on the servers without knowing where they physically exist?
  100. 21:13 < axk4545> yes. kexec.
  101. 21:13 < thenaterhood> in theory yes but it would be...stressful
  102. 21:13 < repkam09> Sounds like fun :D
  103. 21:13 < thenaterhood> we can talk to bioinf and try to get ahold of them
  104. 21:13 < repkam09> Also.... no kernel updates (or software updates) in 500ish days
  105. 21:14 < axk4545> you can also boot the iso through grub.
  106. 21:14 < axk4545> I vote fedora.
  107. 21:14 < repkam09> Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS <3
  108. 21:14 < xforever1313> Gentoo ;)
  109. 21:14 < axk4545> actually arch given the club userbase
  110. 21:14 < xforever1313> OH WAIT!
  111. 21:14 < xforever1313> Windows Server :D
  112. 21:14 < xforever1313> ;)
  113. 21:15 < repkam09> nopls
  114. 21:15 < thenaterhood> i'm not sure these systems are actually capable of running that lol ;)
  115. 21:15  * axk4545 shakes his head
  116. 21:15 < thenaterhood> dual core, 2800MHz it looks like for CPUs on them
  117. 21:15 < axk4545> they are only 3 years old. I ran 7 on a P4 i think
  118. 21:15 < repkam09> If we want them to actually run things maybe someday, I would think ubuntu or debian is the way to go. But I'm biased :p
  119. 21:16 < thenaterhood> ubuntu server may not be a bad idea, most people are pretty comfortable with ubuntu
  120. 21:16 < axk4545> repkam09: you are right in terms of useability
  121. 21:16 < thenaterhood> 6G of mem in them
  122. 21:16 < axk4545> *useability
  123. 21:16 < axk4545> pretty good for free servers
  124. 21:17 < thenaterhood> they're also not even sata
  125. 21:17 < axk4545> how?
  126. 21:17 < repkam09> Donatello shows the HDD as being 9gb...
  127. 21:17 < axk4545> what?
  128. 21:17 < thenaterhood> the drives are scsi
  129. 21:17 < axk4545> ah.
  130. 21:17 < repkam09> Im actually kind of amazed the drives are still working
  131. 21:17 < axk4545> I still don't believe the 9GB
  132. 21:17 < thenaterhood> yeah
  133. 21:17 < repkam09> But I guess they dont have very much activity on them
  134. 21:18 < thenaterhood> well these servers are absolutely ancient
  135. 21:18 < thenaterhood> they were donated by box
  136. 21:18 < thenaterhood> actually while I was there i should have asked for new ones lol
  137. 21:18 < repkam09> They do like throwing money at things :p
  138. 21:18 < axk4545> we should see if we can get a full spec list with a hardware detection thing.
  139. 21:19 < axk4545> especially students I am guessing
  140. 21:19 < thenaterhood> box? not really
  141. 21:19  * axk4545 will be AFK for a little
  142. 21:19 < repkam09> Oh. It was datto that does that
  143. 21:19 < thenaterhood> yeah that's datto
  144. 21:19 < repkam09> Not box
  145. 21:19 < thenaterhood> i have an offer from datto though, could look into things if i take it
  146. 21:20 < repkam09> lshw output: http://pastebin.com/8UuyRxXj
  147. 21:23 < repkam09> Looks like it probably has a 500gb drive
  148. 21:25 < repkam09> The appears to be a gentoo sage4 Xen image. But thats it for vms
  149. 21:25 < thenaterhood> yeah at one point VMs were the plan. i think at this point we should dedicate a server (since we have multiple) to club
  150.                      operations and the others to...whatever else
  151. 21:25 < thenaterhood> upgrades would be nice though
  152. 21:26 < repkam09> Ive got lots of stuff I run on a personal server that I could/would move onto another host if it was available
  153. 21:26 < repkam09> Bunches of nodejs projects
  154. 21:27 < axk4545> any idea what the blue bar in hexchat means?
  155. 21:27 < axk4545> it id on the right.
  156. 21:28 < repkam09> Never used hexchat
  157. 21:28 < thenaterhood> we could dedicate one server to club ops and set up a vetting process for hosting member projects, have them renew every year
  158.                      and do VMs or containers
  159. 21:28 < repkam09> That sounds neat
  160. 21:28 < axk4545> awesome idea.
  161. 21:29 < thenaterhood> actually if we're running latest ubuntu we can do containers through systemd, it's super easy
  162. 21:29 < axk4545> so one is 500 gb and the other is 8?
  163. 21:29 < thenaterhood> we have 5 servers, probably all the same specs
  164. 21:30 < axk4545> ok.
  165. 21:30 < axk4545> so one club ops, one members and one folding@home?
  166. 21:33 < thenaterhood> what we'd probably do is get them all under Puppet management or something. puppet can run on the club ops one and the others
  167.                       we'd have to decide what to do with
  168. 21:34 < axk4545> duh. forgot about puppet
  169. 21:35 < axk4545> jflory7 would probably be willing to help with setup as would I as long as I know what i am doing.
  170. 21:36 < axk4545> he is over in #fedora most of the time
  171. 21:37 < thenaterhood> we'll have to look into it
  172. 21:37 < axk4545> of course
  173. 21:38 < thenaterhood> it's hard to run a club with only two eboard members :P
  174. 21:38 < axk4545> who is eboard anyway? all I really know is that claire was.
  175. 21:39 < thenaterhood> me and mark
  176. 21:39 < axk4545> wow i was late onthat
  177. 21:40 < axk4545> i imagine it makes decisions easier though
  178. 21:41 < thenaterhood> that's why you never hear what eboard is doing, we just chat each other
  179. 21:41 < axk4545> aren't there a couple more? there were others at the club fair
  180. 21:42 < thenaterhood> nope
  181. 21:42 < thenaterhood> there's a few ritluggers who don't regularly come to meetings because of their schedules
  182. 21:42 < axk4545> ah
  183. 21:43 < thenaterhood> usually there's around 5 eboard members but we got stuck the end of last year. hopefully we can get enough new people this year
  184.                       that come elections there will be an eboard for next year
  185. 21:44 < axk4545> yeah
  186. 21:44 < thenaterhood> if it keeps up we'll have to elect eboard by conscription lol
  187. 21:47 -!- repkbot [~nodebot@104.131.42.105] has joined #ritlug
  188. 21:47 < repkam09> Ayyyy it worked
  189. 21:47 < repkam09> !help
  190. 21:47 < repkbot> Commands: !hype, !rekt, !told, !help
  191. 21:47 < axk4545> what?!
  192. 21:48 < repkam09> I wrote a Twitch.tv IRC bot a few weeks ago. But it works on normal irc as well :p
  193. 21:48 < repkam09> !hype
  194. 21:48 < thenaterhood> !hype
  195. 21:48 < repkbot> /me HYPE THRUSTERS ACTIVATED!! (http://gfycat.com/ActualFeistyBettong)
  196. 21:48 < repkbot> /me HYPE THRUSTERS ACTIVATED!! (http://gfycat.com/ActualFeistyBettong)
  197. 21:48 < repkam09> !rekt
  198. 21:48 < repkbot> Forrekt Gump
  199. 21:48 < repkam09> !rekt
  200. 21:48 < repkbot> The Rekt Files
  201. 21:48 < axk4545> thenaterhood: we could borrow from EGS.
  202. 21:49 < thenaterhood> we'll see what happens. we had good turnout for a while this semester but it tapered off. everyone seems relatively happy with
  203.                       the club though
  204. 21:49 < thenaterhood> unfortunately we missed a club fair...couple weeks ago because i forgot it was happening
  205. 21:50 < axk4545> I think we have a decent core group
  206. 21:51 < thenaterhood> well, we seem to have a core group if nothing else lol
  207. 21:51 < axk4545> then again it is linux.
  208. 21:51 < thenaterhood> it is, but there's a number of similar clubs that do fine
  209. 21:51 < axk4545> repkbot: lol
  210. 21:52 < repkam09> repkbot has a number of phrases it randomly picks from for !rekt and !told :p
  211. 21:52 < repkbot> Was foretold
  212. 21:52 < repkbot> The Rekt King
  213. 21:52 < repkam09> Like that
  214. 21:52 < axk4545> we should take up the old M$ strategy on them: embrace, extend, extinguish
  215. 21:53 < repkam09> I would have to reboot donatello to get the new kernel... what if it never comes back up o_o
  216. 21:53 < thenaterhood> well uh
  217. 21:53 < thenaterhood> that's a risk
  218. 21:53 < axk4545> that won't happen it isn't that old. also checkout kexec
  219. 21:53 < thenaterhood> lol
  220. 21:53 < repkam09> #yolo
  221. 21:54 < thenaterhood> well the issue with these is that they're so old, they may not come back up for hardware reasons too
  222. 21:54 < axk4545> kexec can load a kernel on the fly
  223. 21:54 -!- ritlug-bot [~ajc2549@donatello.rit.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
  224. 21:54 < repkam09> :D
  225. 21:54 < thenaterhood> lol he's doin it
  226. 21:54 < repkam09> Its happening
  227. 21:54 < axk4545> welp
  228. 21:54 < thenaterhood> http://media1.giphy.com/media/5mBE2MiMVFITS/200.gif
  229. 21:55 < repkam09> Its not like its a production critical server :p
  230. 21:55 < thenaterhood> nah
  231. 21:55 < axk4545> who is that again?
  232. 21:55 < thenaterhood> bill o reilly
  233. 21:55 < repkam09> Ron Paul
  234. 21:55 < axk4545> ron paul
  235. 21:55 < repkam09> ^
  236. 21:56 < thenaterhood> i don't remember how long the things take to boot, though iirc it's quite a while
  237. 21:56 < repkam09> *cough* The prompt is not back yet *cough*
  238. 21:56 < axk4545> is it... is it ... dead? :(
  239. 21:56 < repkam09> OH ITS UP!
  240. 21:56 < thenaterhood> i can ping it no
  241. 21:56 < thenaterhood> YEP there it is
  242. 21:56 < axk4545> yasssss
  243. 21:57 < axk4545> it lives!
  244. 21:57 < repkam09> The hardware gods grace us this day
  245. 21:57 < thenaterhood> lol
  246. 21:57 < axk4545> what kkernel is it?
  247. 21:57 < axk4545> *kernel
  248. 21:58 < repkam09> 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.68-1+deb7u5 x86_64 GNU/Linux
  249. 21:58 < thenaterhood> 3.2.0 what was it before?
  250. 21:58 < repkam09> Im not sure how high this version of debian even goes...
  251. 21:58 < axk4545> ooooolddddd
  252. 21:58 < repkam09> Well, yeah
  253. 21:58 < axk4545> debian is "atable"(slow)
  254. 21:58 < axk4545> *stable
  255. 21:59 < repkam09> Its Debian 7
  256. 22:00 < repkam09> Actually lsb_release -da says its 7.9 wheezy
  257. 22:00 < axk4545> yep 7
  258. 22:01 < axk4545> i think it may max at 3.2 or maybe 3.12
  259. 22:03 < thenaterhood> meanwhile, 4.3 was just released
  260. 22:03 < repkam09> Yeahhhh
  261. 22:03 < thenaterhood> ubuntu lags too but a little less so
  262. 22:03 < thenaterhood> if we could get ubuntu server on those and Landscape management that might be good
  263. 22:04 < thenaterhood> don't know if Landscape lets you set up templates, but i imagine it does
  264. 22:06 < repkam09> I... nodejs isnt available on debian in the standard repos?
  265. 22:06 < repkam09> Interesting
  266. 22:10 < axk4545> repkam09: you should probably upgrade to Debian 8 Jessie and install unattended-updates. it handles autoupdates
  267. 22:11 < repkam09> Adding wheezy-backports got it
  268. 22:11 < axk4545> I am on 4.2.3-200 kernel
  269. 22:11 < thenaterhood> well i guess do we want to switch them to ubuntu or just upgrade them
  270. 22:12 < repkam09> Can we upgrade directly to jessie?
  271. 22:12 < axk4545> I think so.
  272. 22:12 < repkam09> Looks like we can, yeah
  273. 22:12 < axk4545> how do you do it on ubuntu? iirc apt-get dist-upgrade
  274. 22:13 < thenaterhood> i tried that, didn't seem to do anything
  275. 22:13 < repkam09> That doesnt do it completely
  276. 22:13 < repkam09> You need to switch apt to point to the other repository
  277. 22:13 < axk4545> ah.
  278. 22:13 < thenaterhood> aha that would be why
  279. 22:13 < repkam09> With like 's/wheezy/jessie/g' and then do dist-upgrade
  280. 22:13 < thenaterhood> we could try using Cockpit for management, cockpit also will handle containers if we decide to go that route for things
  281. 22:14 < thenaterhood> available for ubuntu, not sure about debian
  282. 22:14 < axk4545> if we want fancy things ubuntu might be better.
  283. 22:14 < axk4545> debian is super FOSS
  284. 22:14 < repkam09> Yeah.
  285. 22:14 < thenaterhood> cockpit is FOSS
  286. 22:14 < thenaterhood> far as i'm aware
  287. 22:15 < repkam09> About to try and upgrade to Jessie. Because why not.
  288. 22:15 < thenaterhood> sure, go ahead
  289. 22:15 < axk4545> go go go
  290. 22:15 < repkam09> Worst case we wipe it back to Ubuntu
  291. 22:15 < thenaterhood> yeah basically
  292. 22:15 < axk4545> if we can
  293. 22:15 < repkam09> Ehhh details details
  294. 22:15 < thenaterhood> that's a bridge to cross if we come to it
  295. 22:16 < thenaterhood> ubuntu may be a good bet though honestly. most things are compatible with it because it's used so widely
  296. 22:16 < repkam09> Yeah, I would agree with that move
  297. 22:16 < thenaterhood> and then we get Landscape out of the box which could be good
  298. 22:17 < thenaterhood> Landscape is not FOSS, however. But Cockpit is available for ubuntu too
  299. 22:17 < axk4545> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
  300. 22:17 -!- repkbot [~nodebot@104.131.42.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
  301. 22:17 < repkam09> I was looking at that page a few minutes ago
  302. 22:17 < repkam09> Seems possible. If scary.
  303. 22:18 < axk4545> don't you have to pay for landscape?
  304. 22:18 < thenaterhood> landscape is free for up to 10 devices (5 physical, 5 virtual i think)
  305. 22:18 < repkam09> " It is free for up to 10 physical machines and 10 more virtual"
  306. 22:18 < thenaterhood> providing you self host
  307. 22:18 < thenaterhood> oh i'm off by 1/2
  308. 22:19 < repkam09> I would love to get server monitoring up on here to monitor my DO servers.
  309. 22:19 < repkam09> That would be actually useful
  310. 22:19 < thenaterhood> take a look at cockpit, it looks pretty slick
  311. 22:19 < axk4545> I almost got ubuntu to install w/o a cd but then it wouldn't overwrite the HDD that contained the ISO
  312. 22:19 < thenaterhood> actually doing an install from within linux would likely be non-trivial since i'm pretty sure these have a raid configuration
  313. 22:20 < repkam09> Oooo. Yeah, I think they do
  314. 22:20 < thenaterhood> that said, since debian is apt-based i wonder if it would be possible to just switch everything to point to the ubuntu mirrors
  315.                      and run an upgrade
  316. 22:21 < thenaterhood> it sounds like a horrible idea but maybe doable
  317. 22:21 < repkam09> I dont think so
  318. 22:21 < repkam09> That would be interesting to try in a VM
  319. 22:21 < repkam09> Brb...
  320. 22:21 < thenaterhood> yep
  321. 22:23 < repkam09> Or.... I could spin up a DO droplet which is fater than downloading the debian iso to my machine...
  322. 22:23 < axk4545> for ubuntu?
  323. 22:23 < repkam09> To try an /apt/sources.list conversion from debian to ubuntu
  324. 22:24 < repkam09> I suspect you cant do that. But it might be entertaining
  325. 22:24 < thenaterhood> a quick google search says it's not trivial
  326. 22:24 < axk4545> donnatello still down?
  327. 22:24 < thenaterhood> donatello is up
  328. 22:24 < repkam09> Its up. Its just currently installing a LOT of packages
  329. 22:24 < axk4545> what happened to bot?
  330. 22:24 < thenaterhood> never restarted it
  331. 22:24 < repkam09> ritlug-bot? Its not really a bot, it was running in irssi on donatello
  332. 22:24 < repkam09> Someone would have to restart it
  333. 22:25 < repkam09> I could write a real bot for it :)
  334. 22:25 < thenaterhood> if cockpit is available for debian then switching to ubuntu may not really be that important since we can still do management.
  335.                       saves us the trouble if upgrading debian isn't bad
  336. 22:25 < repkam09> That pushes the chat to a website or something.
  337. 22:27 < axk4545> I meant repkbot
  338. 22:27 < thenaterhood> it just occurred to me that the blog post i'm writing, about taking time off from engineering, may not be the best thing to post
  339.                       while i'm applying to jobs
  340. 22:27 < axk4545> thenaterhood: I like that.
  341. 22:27 < repkam09> Haha
  342. 22:27 < repkam09> Ooh. Repkbot. I was just messing around with that
  343. 22:28 < axk4545> probably not.
  344. 22:28 < repkam09> Normall he lives on Twitch tv
  345. 22:28 < repkam09> Upgrade Progress: Scary bit. SSL update restarts sshd...
  346. 22:28 < thenaterhood> speaking of repka-built things, repcast kept crashing on me today
  347. 22:28 < thenaterhood> oh that should be okay, it's usually quick enough that it doesn't interrupt the session
  348. 22:28 < thenaterhood> if it doesn't. well.
  349. 22:28 < repkam09> Oh really? Whats it... doing or not doing?
  350. 22:28 < thenaterhood> lol
  351. 22:28 < repkam09> It worked fine, sshd. Thankfully
  352. 22:29 < thenaterhood> i tried to cast something and it worked, and i went back and it crashed
  353. 22:29 < axk4545> was he watching twitchinstallsarch
  354. 22:29 < thenaterhood> so i opened it and it crashed
  355. 22:29 < repkam09> Huh. Neat.
  356. 22:29 < repkam09> I did restart lighttpd earlier on that server...
  357. 22:29 < repkam09> If you happened to be on at the time that might have done it
  358. 22:29 < thenaterhood> oh maybe that was it, could have just been super bad timing
  359. 22:29 < axk4545> what is repcast?
  360. 22:29 < repkam09> An app my brother and I wrote for Chromecasting stuff from my server to a chromecast
  361. 22:30 < thenaterhood> i wanted to build a command line utility to do that and put it in the AUR but someone beat me to it
  362. 22:30 < repkam09> Ahh yeah
  363. 22:30  * axk4545 wants to know stuff and have skills
  364. 22:30 < repkam09> Just get a co-op and learn all the things, and then use them for personal use :p
  365. 22:30 < axk4545> but I guess that comes with time.
  366. 22:30 < repkam09> Thats how I did it lol
  367. 22:31 < thenaterhood> yeah you learn a lot on co-op
  368. 22:31 < axk4545> and experience
  369. 22:31 < repkam09> Oooo.
  370. 22:31 < repkam09> Uhhhh.
  371. 22:31 < axk4545> hmm?
  372. 22:31 < thenaterhood> yeah?
  373. 22:31 < repkam09> Xen.
  374. 22:31 < thenaterhood> oh, yeah that's a thing
  375. 22:31 < repkam09> Changes the grub config. Like a lot.
  376. 22:31 < axk4545> how?
  377. 22:31 < thenaterhood> i don't remember why Xen is even on these servers
  378. 22:32 < repkam09> I should be okay if I ignore it and overwrite with the package version...
  379. 22:32 < repkam09> It just wont have the xen kernel
  380. 22:32 < thenaterhood> in theory yeah
  381. 22:32 < axk4545> or remove xen
  382. 22:32 < repkam09> I think it will boot okay
  383. 22:32 < axk4545> it is a hypervisor AFAIK.
  384. 22:32 < repkam09> We'll see shortly
  385. 22:32 < repkam09> Yeah, it is
  386. 22:33 < repkam09> I'll check the grub config before it reboots
  387. 22:33 < axk4545> can you try removing it before the big risk?
  388. 22:33 < repkam09> Yeah
  389. 22:33 < axk4545> it would suck if you killed it.
  390. 22:33 < repkam09> Ive gotten so far. It would be sad
  391. 22:34 < axk4545> it is the ritlug baby.
  392. 22:34 < axk4545> :P
  393. 22:35 < thenaterhood> lol would just mean two of the servers are down
  394. 22:37 < axk4545> two?
  395. 22:37 < repkam09> Yeah. Splinter is already down. :(
  396. 22:37 < repkam09> Without anyone touching it...
  397. 22:37 < axk4545> jow?
  398. 22:38 < axk4545> *how?
  399. 22:38 < thenaterhood> it may have just crashed
  400. 22:38 < axk4545> another reason to go down there.
  401. 22:39 < thenaterhood> we really should move the servers anyway, where they are has some weird politics that we were trying to get away from at one point
  402. 22:39 < repkam09> Removing Xen... here goes nothing...
  403. 22:39 < axk4545> they should be in golisano
  404. 22:40 < repkam09> I dont think they are
  405. 22:40 < repkam09> Its somewhere weird
  406. 22:40 < thenaterhood> they're not
  407. 22:40 < axk4545> repkam09: good luck.
  408. 22:40 < thenaterhood> we're in the bioinformatics datacenter which is under either the college of business or the biomed building, i don't remember
  409. 22:40 < xforever1313> Aren't they in the biomedical building or someplace like that?
  410. 22:40 < xforever1313> Institute Hall?
  411. 22:40 < axk4545> what I mean is we should move them to gccis
  412. 22:40 < thenaterhood> no we shouldn't
  413. 22:40 < thenaterhood> gccis doesn't have datacenter space
  414. 22:41 < axk4545> no?
  415. 22:41 < axk4545> ah
  416. 22:41 < thenaterhood> bioinformatics is a gccis major, btw
  417. 22:41 < thenaterhood> their dc is not in gccis
  418. 22:41 < xforever1313> Unless we want to steal space in the black hole simulator room ;)
  419. 22:41 < thenaterhood> i don't think that would fly :P
  420. 22:41 < xforever1313> :P
  421. 22:41 < thenaterhood> research computing has other...things going on
  422. 22:41 < axk4545> so where should they go then
  423. 22:41 < thenaterhood> no we were talking about moving them to the institute hall datacenter
  424. 22:41 < thenaterhood> brand new datacenter
  425. 22:42 < repkam09> "No your machines are old and gross"
  426. 22:42 -!- bahamas10 [~bahamas10@cpe-72-231-241-118.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
  427. 22:42 < axk4545> they aren't there?
  428. 22:42 < thenaterhood> no
  429. 22:42 < thenaterhood> institute hall was built last year
  430. 22:42 -!- bahamas10 [~bahamas10@cpe-72-231-241-118.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #ritlug
  431. 22:42 < thenaterhood> er, year before last
  432. 22:43 < thenaterhood> we talked about making arrangements to move them there but i don't think it actually happened
  433. 22:43 < axk4545> repkam09: we can bribe them maybe
  434. 22:43 < thenaterhood> lol the servers are the bribes
  435. 22:44 < thenaterhood> at the time the dc was empty and they were asking people for servers to put in it so they had things running there
  436. 22:44 < axk4545> isn't biomed institute hall
  437. 22:44 < thenaterhood> bioinformatics != biomed
  438. 22:44 < axk4545> oh
  439. 22:44 < axk4545> what do I know I hardly leave gccis
  440. 22:45 < thenaterhood> gotta get out more lol
  441. 22:45 < repkam09> But there are people out there...
  442. 22:46 < axk4545> scary people...
  443. 22:46 < thenaterhood> i know, like me
  444. 22:46 < xforever1313> Youre not that scary ;)
  445. 22:46 < thenaterhood> don't make me come over there
  446. 22:46 < axk4545> says his roomate
  447. 22:46 < xforever1313> ;)
  448. 22:47 < thenaterhood> i'm coming over there
  449. 22:47 < xforever1313> OH GOD
  450. 22:47 < xforever1313> OH NO
  451. 22:47 < xforever1313> AAHHHH
  452. 22:47 < axk4545> xforever1313... are you alive?
  453. 22:48 < thenaterhood> nope
  454. 22:49 < xforever1313> DX
  455. 22:49 < thenaterhood> x_x
  456. 22:50 < axk4545> does this channel have logs? jflory7 won't join but I think he may enjoy this.
  457. 22:50 < thenaterhood> good question
  458. 22:51 < axk4545> i suppose I could do Ctrl A ctrl C
  459. 22:51 < thenaterhood> there will be no logs of my transgressions
  460. 22:51 < xforever1313> clear
  461. 22:51 < xforever1313> oh wait, not a terminal
  462. 22:51 < xforever1313> cls
  463. 22:52 < xforever1313> wait, not CMD
  464. 22:52 < thenaterhood> still not a terminal
  465. 22:52 < thenaterhood> don't make me come over there again
  466. 22:52 < axk4545> pwoershell?
  467. 22:52 < xforever1313> clear or cls will work
  468. 22:52 < axk4545> xforever1313: aren't you dead?
  469. 22:52 < xforever1313> yes
  470. 22:52  * thenaterhood goes to make sure xforever1313 is
  471. 22:53  * xforever1313 is dead
  472. 22:53  * thenaterhood caresses xforever1313's hair
  473. 22:53 < thenaterhood> he died so young :'(
  474. 22:53 < axk4545> OMG
  475. 22:53  * xforever1313 becomes a ghost
  476. 22:54  * xforever1313 rests in peace
  477. 22:55 < thenaterhood> xforever1313: come to bed, it's getting late
  478. 22:56 < axk4545> hehe
  479. 22:57 < axk4545> repkam09: how is update?
  480. 22:57 < repkam09> Progressing
  481. 22:58 < repkam09> Need some SSDs in here
  482. 22:58 < axk4545> that would be nice. funraising?
  483. 22:58 < axk4545> *fundraising?
  484. 22:58 < thenaterhood> if you can find a scsi ssd i'd be amazed
  485. 22:58 < repkam09> Lolol
  486. 22:59 -!- xforever1313 [~Seth@104.153.30.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
  487. 23:00 < repkam09> I think we're getting to the end of the update now...
  488. 23:01 < axk4545> forgot that
  489. 23:01 < repkam09> Ive got logs of this, by the way :p
  490. 23:01 < repkam09> At least since I came in the room
  491. 23:02 < axk4545> yay!
  492. 23:03 < axk4545> thenaterhood is screwed then. he killed xforever1313
  493. 23:03 < repkam09> So I saw!
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