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- [22:56:38] Starr so uhh....this person I'm talking to about a possible prequel to TGC just literally made up a carbon copy of Phantom Convergence
- [22:56:41] Starr Idk how to feel about this
- [22:57:49] Shadow LOL.
- [22:58:03] Starr Basically the villain's intentions are Emri's
- [22:58:10] Starr and I'm like "Y-Yeah...that sounds....g-good"
- [22:58:30] Starr I might just shift this into Drei timeline
- [22:58:58] Shadow Why don't you tell them precisely that
- [22:59:08] Shadow "this is literally Phantom Convergence"
- [22:59:18] Starr well he's still in the middle of explaining his ideas so I'm waiting for him to finish
- [22:59:26] Starr though he did bring up some interesting ideas for Greniou
- [22:59:41] Starr even a possible counter-family against the Errins
- [23:00:08] Starr atm I'm just giving him secret development info on Greniou and he's giving me some of his ideas
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- [23:13:08] Starr "Okay so what if [spoilers] and then they kill Zhenn?" "uhm....."
- [23:13:16] Starr this guy wants Zhenn dead
- [23:15:30] Starr it's like suggesting these people go off to challenge Fortuna
- [23:15:36] Starr or Hollow
- [23:16:39] Shadow LOL
- [23:17:23] Shadow Well Hollow is on an ENTIRELY different tier but even though gods aren't infallible that's pretty lulzy
- [23:17:48] Starr Well this person thinks a simple Oni can rek Zhenn
- [23:17:56] Shadow LOL.
- [23:18:01] Starr even though this person comes from a world that can't even shake off a fucking curse
- [23:18:12] Starr and against a goddess who runs /multiple systems/
- [23:18:44] Starr Like I love the ideas he's throwing around but I gotta draw a line, y'know?
- [23:18:59] Starr he literally reminded me that I had Oni
- [23:19:04] Starr I severely overlooked them
- [23:21:45] Starr "Sorry man I highly doubt one person can bring her down." ".. Damn. And that had such good potential. q_q"
- [23:22:11] Starr well unless this Oni in question had Emri-potential this couldn't happen anyway!
- [23:24:59] Shadow So is this a potential Manaverse recruit???
- [23:25:59] Starr nigga he mine
- [23:26:11] Starr this is the first person who's shown major interest in my things
- [23:27:04] Shadow interest in your things -> interest in the Manaverse -> ??? -> profit
- [23:27:35] Starr This person jumped the gun the moment I mentioned a bit of my things
- [23:27:44] Starr This never happens. I must keep him
- [23:28:42] Shadow wat
- [23:39:43] Starr so this guy is a fan of Monster Musume and refuses to play pure humans. Hmmm where have I seen this before
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- [23:55:40] Starr "Fitting. Greniou is kind of like that universe's version of Space Russia. " See what you guys made me do
- [23:55:52] Starr now I'm really telling other people I have a Space Russia
- [23:56:14] Zio Better than space Australia
- [23:56:29] Zio Do you have Spacey's?
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- [23:56:45] Starr LMAO
- [23:57:08] Starr oh i guess you have no context uhm
- [23:57:28] Starr Found a new Starrfriend and I'm totally in love with his ideas and interest in my things
- [23:57:38] Zio Oh?
- [23:57:41] Starr so we're having a marathon of dev and ideas atm
- [23:58:11] Zio Oh crap I totally forgot I was going to make an RP for that Cassie person whelp
- [23:58:23] Starr Cassie fell off the face of the earth
- [23:58:31] Starr she stopped doing things
- [23:58:54] Starr (hey man she asked me to do that too :I)
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- [00:17:25] Starr|PL Hey remember when Duke Nukem became a priest and married off Gaga and Giag?
- [00:17:30] Starr|PL What golden times
- [00:19:25] Zio Lolwut
- [00:19:50] Zio Work, will leave up
- [00:23:13] Zio Shadow you remember the order t13 joined up? Might help with things idk
- [00:23:26] Shadow I have it all noted down somewhere
- [00:24:00] Shadow Though iirc the order wasn't fully established, just a rough outline
- [00:25:49] Zio All I remember was Szaufers first and jewel last
- [00:27:54] Shadow [Fang / Tascera / Ralara] -> Vendetta -> [Inaka / Rilan] -> Ivette -> (Eight - Nine - Jessakura - Nanashi) -> Valria -> Jewel
- [00:28:22] Shadow [] means they joined at the same time and () is undefined order
- [00:28:24] Shadow I think.
- [00:28:51] Starr|PL Heh the femnazi
- [00:29:11] Starr|PL Well time for z
- [00:31:26] Starr|PL >mfw I might have the possibility to use Vale's uncle now
- [00:32:17] Zio Oh yeah rilan/inaka might not be the same anymore idk
- [00:32:31] Shadow Yeah I was wondering about that
- [00:32:58] Zio Also we should change the draft to 3-4 categories instead of theorized order
- [00:33:16] Zio Szaufer, Early, Mid, Late
- [00:35:08] Shadow Yeah, good idea
- [00:35:26] Shadow Categorizing Valria and Jewel as Late
- [00:35:51] Zio Szaufer, Vendetta/Rilan/Ivette, Eight/Nine/Jessakura, Nanashi/Valria/Jewel
- [00:36:05] Zio split into threes cause can =x
- [00:37:13] Shadow lol you
- [00:37:55] Shadow Where's Inaka then
- [00:40:23] Zio Idk yet
- [00:40:30] Zio mid or late
- [00:40:51] Zio actually probably takes Nanashi's spot in late, bumping her ti o mid
- [00:40:58] Zio *to
- [00:42:15] Zio Oh but of Inaka's in mid then I can have one in each =x
- [00:44:48] Zio Dun mind me just making dev decisions based on ocd
- [00:48:07] Starr|PL You got ocd???
- [00:49:40] Zio Little ya
- [00:50:07] Zio Gotta keep nah sords orderly
- [00:50:14] Zio *mah
- [00:50:48] Starr|PL >keeps sord in closet
- [00:50:54] Starr|PL Though for safety reasons...!
- [00:51:54] Zio Hmmm maybe I should de-MonHun Jewel...
- [00:53:15] Starr|PL No matter what I sill have very little idea how Ivette and Valria are (okay the latter maybe not). Ivette comes up as a blank. She doesn't even have a home world...idk how she got her limbs thingies, etc
- [00:53:32] Starr|PL The big wipe destroyed all the dev I had on her so I'm starting from scratch, basically
- [00:53:53] Shadow So that means
- [00:53:54] Shadow You forgot?
- [00:53:56] Shadow LOL
- [00:55:24] Starr|PL I rely too much on sporadic word files I have on things
- [00:55:42] Starr|PL When a big wipe happens that's gg for me. No replays
- [00:55:51] Starr|PL All I remember was lace blades
- [00:56:11] Shadow I only remember lace blades too so gg
- [00:56:24] Starr|PL Laceblades <3
- [00:56:39] Starr|PL She was pretty weird in the CPs too
- [00:57:07] Starr|PL Mute, passive aggressive, ready magiology books for fun and their titles changed at random intervals
- [00:57:36] Starr|PL *reading
- [00:58:40] Zio Ohey. There's dergs in T13. They really do have everything
- [00:59:17] Starr|PL There are?
- [00:59:21] Starr|PL Damnit
- [00:59:26] Starr|PL There's no escape
- [00:59:52] Starr|PL grumbles and looks away
- [00:59:55] Shadow LOL
- [01:00:09] Shadow Well they are Jewel's familiars so it should be okay
- [01:00:24] Starr|PL Better not be the standard "holier than thou" kind
- [01:00:49] Shadow plottwist: T13 was a dragon plot all along
- [01:00:57] Starr|PL I will fucking scream
- [01:01:06] Starr|PL Tired of them
- [01:01:13] Starr|PL Up to the fucking calzones with them
- [01:01:15] Starr|PL Make it stop
- [01:01:40] Shadow They are like Yura
- [01:02:27] Shadow Jokes aside iirc Jewel's familiars weren't sapient, were they?
- [01:03:50] Starr|PL Bird hat oh right.
- [01:04:08] Starr|PL No I feel like I'm not doing Valria justice. Even with bird hat
- [01:04:43] Zio They have acquired pseudo sapience from their connection
- [01:04:49] Zio but no, they arent
- [01:05:13] Shadow Ah, thought it was something along those lines
- [01:05:54] Zio Or rather, only Gem has the higher faculties
- [01:06:06] Zio *Sapphire
- [01:06:10] Zio blah
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- [01:08:44] Zio Only Sapphire is still fully connected to her soul
- [01:35:05] Zio Okback
- [01:37:57] Starr|PL Hi
- [01:38:00] Zio Hi
- [01:38:11] Shadow Hi
- [01:38:15] Zio Who has Nine again?
- [01:38:16] Starr|PL Bye
- [01:38:32] Shadow Cerby does
- [01:38:43] Zio lolcerby has a T13???
- [01:38:56] Cerberus lolzio didn't know that???
- [01:39:05] Zio lolno!!!
- [01:39:20] Cerberus Eebit bestowed her unto me
- [01:39:34] Zio Oh. Well then
- [01:39:43] Zio watchu know bout Nine???????????
- [01:39:46] Cerberus Come to think of it, has he kept the other one he had?
- [01:40:05] Zio inb4 nothing
- [01:40:36] Cerberus I haven't developed her much because there hasn't seemed to be any cause to. I occasionally flesh out ideas for her statform profile, though
- [01:42:16] Zio That's fair I guess
- [01:42:31] Starr|PL Lol what's stat
- [01:42:42] Starr|PL says as she hides her old profiles under the rug
- [01:43:39] Cerberus She naturally has control over time, and I told Shadow he could use her as a plot device to contact Fang and give her information or something like that before she officially joins with the group, but I'd probably need to define what kind of manipulation she can achieve with time first
- [01:45:40] Zio Who else... Eight?
- [01:45:54] Starr|PL CrazE had 8
- [01:45:59] Shadow ^
- [01:46:00] Starr|PL I think
- [01:46:33] Cerberus crazE 8s
- [01:47:09] Zio Oh crap Shadow. If Rilan's a vorpal being, she'd probably have to have, well, access to Vorpal wouldn't she? Welp
- [01:48:34] Shadow Yep. Vorpal beings have a finite energy pool, right?
- [01:48:44] Starr|PL Inb4
- [01:48:57] Zio Well, Rilan would for sure as she has untainted Vorpal
- [01:49:15] Zio And the only vorpal source is, well, tainted
- [01:49:23] Zio So...
- [01:49:34] Cerberus her spear eats blood and converts it into vorpal energy
- [01:49:45] Zio ...
- [01:49:54] Cerberus 10/10 you're welcome
- [01:50:01] Zio that's actually a pretty good train of thought
- [01:50:32] Starr|PL That sounds cool
- [01:50:35] Starr|PL Good cerby
- [01:50:36] Zio >Spear maintains a pocket dimension where a Vorpal cycle is maintained
- [01:50:46] Starr|PL THERE YOU GO
- [01:50:47] Zio >Spear fueled by blood
- [01:50:58] Zio That would explain a lot actually
- [01:51:09] Zio O u cerby
- [01:51:09] Starr|PL solved? Solved
- [01:51:15] Shadow >Spear's pocket dimension is actually fed by Prana; fresh blood contains Prana
- [01:51:33] Starr|PL Wait fresh blood contains prana?
- [01:51:38] Zio Yes
- [01:51:41] Starr|PL ....
- [01:51:48] Starr|PL ...oh my zhenn....
- [01:51:52] Starr|PL I--
- [01:52:01] Zio I know that one because Shadow just said it
- [01:52:05] Zio =x
- [01:52:11] Starr|PL T-Then...
- [01:52:22] Starr|PL takes new info over to friend
- [01:53:20] Zio So Rilan starts off an aloof dimension jumper who ends up on Deveron at the worst possible time, becomes Vorpal being, is booted out by Kivorde, has to find method for Vorpal
- [01:53:24] Shadow Blood holds Prana, yes. Why do you think hemovores subsist on blood? They are spiritual beings who literally feed off one's lifeforce
- [01:53:35] Zio Makes spear, spear eats blood, Rilan turns sadistic
- [01:53:43] Zio there we go, backstory
- [01:53:57] Shadow lmao
- [01:54:21] Cerberus But do they shine in sunlight, Shadow?
- [01:54:29] Zio Get out
- [01:54:37] Starr|PL This is just
- [01:54:43] Starr|PL this fits so well holy shit
- [01:55:00] Zio >Inaka prana user
- [01:55:11] Zio No wonder Inaka and Rilan hang out
- [01:55:25] Starr|PL Good thing we got into an Emma convo so this is definitely a well received new fact now
- [01:55:34] Zio Inaka's a good source of prana when blood isn't readily available
- [01:57:27] Zio Now I need figure out Inaka things and I'll be pretty set with T13 character things for a while
- [01:58:31] Shadow If the conversation didn't lead to this you'd have never found that out
- [01:58:37] Shadow This is why you ask these things!
- [01:59:09] Cerberus What, we should randomly ask whether different bodily fluids happen to contain aetheric energies?
- [01:59:10] Starr|PL I didn't have a need
- [01:59:13] Starr|PL But this is good
- [01:59:13] Zio Shadow why would anyone beaides me randomly think about why blood is life giving
- [01:59:14] Starr|PL Very good
- [01:59:32] Starr|PL Well sky serpent blood contains Ian
- [01:59:38] Starr|PL Come on what
- [01:59:39] Keileon Poor Ian
- [01:59:41] Zio >Ian
- [01:59:41] Starr|PL That's totally a word
- [01:59:44] Starr|PL Eon
- [01:59:44] Shadow If you have blood-based characters that's certainly something you should be considering
- [01:59:46] Zio >>>>>>Ian
- [02:00:02] Zio Well yeah that's fair
- [02:00:07] Starr|PL Fits in well because it's a double wammy for her dad
- [02:00:15] Starr|PL Vampire AND a nocturne
- [02:00:17] Shadow Thinking outside the box and all of that
- [02:00:19] Zio I revisited my blood character for five seconds and found that out lol
- [02:00:20] Starr|PL Already prana-based being
- [02:00:28] Keileon So I guess Daivam's Prana just adjusted well to the shit that replaced his blood
- [02:00:53] Starr|PL And I've been thinking of possibilities of maybe Emma being dual-circuited
- [02:01:24] Shadow It's not that it adjusted, it's just a "side effect" of being, well, alive
- [02:01:28] Keileon Ah
- [02:01:48] Zio But in regards to T13 origins; it was fun to contemplate the possibilities but I'm gravitating more toward them not working for anyone.
- [02:01:56] Shadow Traces of Prana leak into one's blood and all of that
- [02:02:17] Zio Cool train of thought, didn't really have a lot of track tho
- [02:03:23] Starr|PL Maybe Degviela also feeds on the prana it gets from slicing people open or stabby stabby
- [02:03:32] Shadow ^@Zio
- [02:03:36] Starr|PL Hell it already has a spiritual body why stop there
- [02:03:58] Zio But I also like them having code numbers =<
- [02:04:14] Zio I must find a rwason for it =V
- [02:04:20] Zio *reason
- [02:04:49] Keileon I liked the idea you had about it being to hide the chain of command
- [02:05:09] Zio That wasnt an idea, it was a reason someone would do that
- [02:05:17] Starr|PL ^ @kuda
- [02:05:41] Zio The question for that is, why would they even need to hide that?
- [02:05:57] Starr|PL Brain stop
- [02:06:02] Starr|PL Stooop
- [02:06:03] Zio They aren't exactly secretive
- [02:06:37] Shadow Also, that implies they have a need to hide that. What do they even /do/?
- [02:06:52] Starr|PL "What if Ivette is just an incredibly mutated Degviela where it progressed to a point of making itself a body, therefore explaining most of its limbs being metallic and being absolutely mute?"
- [02:06:56] Zio Do they actually /have/ a chain of command?
- [02:07:08] Starr|PL They might have to
- [02:07:12] Shadow >Fang
- [02:07:36] Zio Seems more like Jedi council where everyone is equal, they just all listen to Yoda because >best
- [02:08:08] Starr|PL Wouldn't listening to one person in particular more like
- [02:08:14] Starr|PL Defeat the purpose of equality?
- [02:08:39] Zio No
- [02:09:09] Shadow Not necessarily. It's more like "everyone has a say but this guy's input is right 99% of the time so yeah let's go with what he says"
- [02:09:14] Zio Everyone's voice counts, but people tend to listen to the most experienced, eldest, powerful etc
- [02:09:26] Shadow So basically, me and you guys
- [02:09:27] Zio ya what shadow said
- [02:09:28] Shadow :x
- [02:09:32] Zio ..
- [02:09:39] Zio this pleb
- [02:09:42] Zio pls
- [02:09:53] Starr|PL Yeah basically you and you guys
- [02:09:58] Starr|PL Perfect mental image
- [02:10:31] Shadow >trying to exclude herself
- [02:10:42] Keileon Shadow that's only becuse outside of the manaverse- something you know the most about- you never give input anyway
- [02:11:14] Zio >girl with Vibration theory thinks she can no Dev
- [02:11:24] Shadow Usually I don't really care enough to give input haha
- [02:11:47] Zio Terrible Yoda
- [02:11:48] Keileon Yeah but you're basically Giga whenever something serious comes up
- [02:12:11] Shadow I only watch
- [02:12:23] Cerberus And silently judge us.
- [02:12:36] Keileon He needs to work on the silent part then :V
- [02:12:37] Shadow Okay, we're getting offtrack though
- [02:12:57] Zio So yeaj
- [02:13:03] Zio *yeah
- [02:13:10] Zio wut does T13 even do
- [02:13:17] Starr|PL He has to blend in
- [02:13:35] Shadow Jokes aside, really, what do they /do/? We know they are frequent world-hoppers, but they certainly don't just go "okay guys let's take a vacation on this planet next". I've always envisioned them having objectives and operating as a team, but if so, what sort of objectives are those even?
- [02:13:42] Zio I lile the Malice Destro Force but that only works if the other ten members have a reason to as well
- [02:14:02] Zio *like
- [02:14:30] Starr|PL Yeah I doubt not-Degviela and valria care much about malicefags destroying rinul enough to abandon their homes and join the group
- [02:14:37] Keileon All I know is Fang and Tascera are looking for other Ereva
- [02:14:41] Shadow Yeah, it doesn't actually lead /anywhere/. It's too backstory-heavy
- [02:15:05] Starr|PL It doesn't tie in with the non-erect so
- [02:15:11] Shadow >non-erect
- [02:15:12] Starr|PL *ereva
- [02:15:14] Keileon ahahah
- [02:15:17] Zio I also imagine they have more than one ultimate objective because >13 totally different people
- [02:15:18] Starr|PL Excuse me
- [02:15:18] Starr|PL Just
- [02:15:21] Starr|PL Excuse me
- [02:15:23] Shadow My sides
- [02:15:27] Shadow Holy fuck
- [02:15:42] Starr|PL I ducking corrected that like three times and I still went on with it
- [02:15:48] Starr|PL ...ARGH
- [02:15:54] Starr|PL forget it I'm done here
- [02:18:16] Shadow They most likely don't have a definite goal, for sure. Everyone's there for their own reasons, but the prevailing theme seems to be "these people are interesting, let's stick around"
- [02:18:17] Zio I think the best we can do now is take our characters, find what drives them, and determine why they need a world-happing group to attain it. Then put it all together
- [02:18:56] Zio *hopping
- [02:19:24] Zio Szaufers are easy: Find Ereva, kick malice in the teeth
- [02:20:05] Zio Jewel ezpz as well; she stays cause nowhere else to go lol
- [02:20:32] Starr|PL Welp if that's the case then I have absolutely nothing
- [02:20:45] Zio >find it
- [02:20:49] Cerberus Your characters do it for the selfie
- [02:21:41] Zio I'm not saying I need an answer now, just seek out your character's motivations and you'll piece it together quicker is all
- [02:21:50] Starr|PL I've tried for a long time. I just have no idea what they are
- [02:21:56] Starr|PL Or what they want
- [02:22:13] Starr|PL They're gist-leveled characters atm
- [02:22:18] Starr|PL Cardboard cutouts
- [02:23:28] Zio Rilan probably wants to escape the need for her spear; but is probably conflicted by now as to if she even wants to anymore
- [02:24:40] Starr|PL Now I'm enjoying the thought of Ivette not being an actual being
- [02:24:51] Starr|PL Why must I this at this hour. I'm wasting my time
- [02:24:59] Starr|PL +do
- [02:25:40] Zio That's... a really interesting thought actually
- [02:25:57] Zio idk what it would entail but it could be something pretty sweet
- [02:26:19] Starr|PL Too bad the Degviela theory is out the door, but i could have explained a couple of things
- [02:26:50] Starr|PL I.e: mostly metallic form. No sign of blood circulation, does not speak
- [02:26:51] Zio Ivette is Pinocchio. "I'm an exustential anomoly. I just wanna be a real girl"
- [02:27:18] Starr|PL Since T13 is in SCT it's impossible for the theory to hold.
- [02:27:59] Zio Shadow I have to work, help see what I mean by that idea
- [02:28:28] Shadow lmao
- [02:28:49] Starr|PL Oh well
- [02:28:53] Starr|PL Cya nerd
- [02:29:07] Zio Or play with it yourself idk
- [02:29:19] Cerberus that's what she said
- [02:30:02] Shadow While her Degviela might not work, you can still play around with the idea of Ivette not actually being a, well, living being
- [02:30:29] Zio Not knowing what Ivette is is the coolest part of her to me
- [02:31:02] Zio Like if not even she knew what she is
- [02:31:05] Zio she just... is
- [02:31:23] Starr|PL Would've been cool fan fiction but yes. It cannot work. If it were to be true then that would mean Emma has enormous potential-- so much that she caused an item to become a being in such little time.
- [02:31:47] Starr|PL Which isn't supposed to happen in one go. It's supposed to gain sets of mutations per generation/wielded
- [02:31:53] Starr|PL *wielder
- [02:31:57] Shadow rip in pls
- [02:32:55] Starr|PL I mean hax...like that would be hax. Ivette and Degviela do sort of...idk, fit. Silent, unpredictable whatever they ares
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- [02:38:46] Starr|PL
- [02:38:49] Starr|PL Cya
- [02:42:21] Zio Welp
- [02:47:54] Zio Guess hes not coming back
- [02:51:03] |<-- Cerberus has left irc.paradoxirc.net (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 40.0.3/20150826023504])
- [02:58:08] Zio Kuda can you log this and send it to me? Imaa go
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