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  3. The best of the forecasters.
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  7. Besides this podcast, we are currently working on another Beatles project.
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  11. And we need your help for that.
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  15. We are looking for the address of the house that the Ringo star in the 70s owned in Amsterdam.
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  19. On YouTube, there is a video of an old Beatles and Limited chairman René van Halim,
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  23. in which he claims that the address is Prince Gracht 1025.
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  27. But in our research, we were already quick to find out that the address is not correct.
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  31. But what is the address anyway?
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  35. We have already written community archives, cadastres and all kinds of instances and persons,
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  39. but unfortunately we are not getting any further.
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  43. And that is why we are directing us to you.
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  47. Can you help us further in our search for Ringo's address in Amsterdam?
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  51. Have you spoken to Amsterdamers who have seen Ringo or his manager, Hillary Gerard, at that time?
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  55. Every instruction is valuable.
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  59. You can email us at fabforecastatgmail.com or leave a message on our Facebook page.
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  63. Thank you very much for your reaction and hopefully you help us solve this Dutch Beatles mystery.
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  67. Fab Four, we have for you the Fab Four.
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  71. The Fab Four!
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  75. Fab Four cost.
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  79. So how could I dance with another when I saw her stand there?
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  83. Well she looked at me and I could see that before too long I fall in love with her.
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  87. She wouldn't dance with another when I saw her stand there.
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  91. Well my heart went boom when I crossed that room and I held her hand in my ear.
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  95. Well we danced through the night and we held each other tight and before too long I fell in love with her.
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  99. So I'll never dance with another when I saw her stand there.
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  103. So how could I dance with another when I saw her stand there?
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  107. Well my heart went boom when I crossed that room and I held her hand
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  111. in my ear.
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  115. Well we danced through the night and we held each other tight and before too long I fell in love with her.
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  119. So how could I dance with another when I saw her stand there?
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  123. Fab Four cost.
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  127. Fab Four cost welcome to this remote broadcast episode.
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  131. Remote means that we are all at home.
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  135. I am in Utrecht and Michiel in Den Haag and Jan Kees in Hilversum.
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  139. Guys say hello.
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  143. Hello from Luisterhuis.
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  147. Hello Fab Four cost.
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  151. Today we have a very special subject and it has been in the news recently.
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  155. Namely the background of the long-lost bass guitar of Paul McCartney.
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  159. His very first bass guitar he ever bought in Hamburg.
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  163. And that's a very nice and intriguing story.
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  167. And we thought we were going to invite someone who wrote an article about it.
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  171. In the magazine The Bassist.
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  175. And that's Chris Decker.
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  179. Chris, welcome.
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  183. Hello.
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  187. Nice to be here.
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  191. Yes, nice that you wanted to do this.
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  195. Could you briefly tell us something?
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  199. I told you about the magazine The Bassist, but what else do you do?
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  203. Yes, I am Chris Decker.
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  207. I am the head director of The Bassist.
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  211. And that is really a bassist sheet.
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  215. You could see it as a bass sheet, but of course also a hobby sheet.
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  219. Because not everyone pays the bass player.
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  223. With test, bass guitar, effects, amplifiers.
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  227. We are going to interview bassists again.
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  231. So really a nerdy sheet for the bassist.
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  235. Furthermore, I also write for the sheet Music Maker.
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  239. That is really a musician sheet.
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  243. So there are also tests and interviews, background stories.
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  247. But that is also very much about how you feel as a musician who can earn money.
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  251. Subsidies, tax tips.
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  255. But also studio tips are really wide about being a musician.
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  259. And I also write a little bit for the sheet Guitarist.
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  263. And then of course I do a lot of language work.
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  267. Namely, I can interview the musician.
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  271. And then with the name of the bassist, but also other musicians.
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  275. And I have a nice bassist at home.
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  279. I don't test it then.
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  283. And can you also keep that bass?
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  287. No, they always say, oh, but you can buy it well.
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  291. And then every month I think, oh shit, I think this one is also very nice.
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  295. But yeah, no, so actually, unfortunately.
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  299. How big is your collection?
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  303. I think I'm about 35 basses now.
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  307. So I have more than enough.
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  311. But very well bought, very well bought, yes, still pricy.
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  315. And then you have room for a special expansion at your house?
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  319. Something like that.
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  323. I am also the chairman of a festival in the Younger Centrum.
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  327. The Younger Centrum has a lot of room.
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  331. There were a number of basses for me.
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  335. And I think it's great to borrow them.
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  339. And maybe a nice little bridge.
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  343. A very good friend of mine who has been playing for a long time.
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  347. The band Beatles by Girls.
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  351. He played regularly in Belgium and France.
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  355. And she is a very talented bassist.
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  359. And I have a number of Huffner basses.
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  363. So always when she went on stage with that band,
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  367. they would pick up a few Huffners for me.
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  371. And then they played with it.
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  375. It was still a bit authentic.
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  379. So I borrow them often.
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  383. Yes, young people.
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  387. You have a pair.
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  391. Right.
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  395. How much?
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  399. I have a very good one.
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  403. I have five Huffners.
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  407. I have three Vial basses.
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  411. So say a Pommelkarting model.
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  415. And I have two club basses.
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  419. They are a little bigger.
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  423. Were those not the basses that Stuart Sutcliffe also had?
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  427. He had a bigger one.
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  431. He had a 505.
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  435. And he has another bigger one.
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  439. And for the nerds among us,
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  443. the club bass looks a bit like a Gibson Les Paul.
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  447. But then whole.
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  451. Okay.
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  455. A little wider than a Vial bass.
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  459. And those Huffners are very different.
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  463. Those three?
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  467. Yes, I have one Huffner.
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  471. That is a Sunburst.
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  475. That is actually the Pommelkarting model that you are still using.
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  479. It is a 63 model.
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  483. Only then the rest is a different version.
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  487. So you can see a little bit together.
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  491. That is the unofficial signature model of Pommelkarting.
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  495. I also have an orange one.
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  499. That is nice Dutch.
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  503. An orange Vial bass.
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  507. And it is actually the same as an orange.
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  511. And I have a red one.
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  515. And it is very comparable to the bass that we are going to talk about today.
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  519. The first Vial bass of Pommelkarting.
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  523. Because it has the elements closer together.
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  527. Maybe we'll get back to that later.
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  531. But Pommelkarting's two Vial basses are clear to distinguish.
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  535. To make more with the location of the elements.
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  539. So the metal blocks that really absorb the tone.
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  543. And does Pommelkarting have left handed basses?
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  547. Yes, Pommelkarting has left handed basses.
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  551. That is also a mystery.
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  555. Or a mystery.
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  559. That is actually a bit of a story that goes around.
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  563. Pommelkarting has bought his first Vial bass in Hamburg.
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  567. And he once said in an interview that he could easily play a right handed bass.
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  571. And he did that in the beginning with the bass of Stu Sutcliffe.
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  575. And that is why it is a bit in the world that Pommelkarting did not play a right handed bass.
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  579. But he immediately bought a left handed bass.
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  583. The lost and found bass.
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  587. And that is probably the very first left handed bass that Huffner has ever made of that type.
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  591. Oh, and that was to buy it in Hamburg.
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  595. Yes, that is part of the mystery.
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  599. Yes, we are talking about it now.
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  603. So I'm just going to start right away.
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  607. Pommelkarting was of course not a bassist at all.
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  611. But Stu stopped with it and he took over the bass.
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  615. Then he indeed played on that big hollow Huffner of Stu.
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  619. Of course, the brand Huffner was available in Germany well.
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  623. But his band leader had also already bought Huffner guitars.
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  627. He once made an appointment with the band,
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  631. where the bassist also had a Huffner Vial bass.
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  635. So the brand Huffner was a kind of reliable brand of Pommelkarting.
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  639. He went into the Steyr West Shop and he probably had a Vial bass there.
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  643. Or maybe he had seen a record or maybe he knew that he had that bass.
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  647. That is not exactly clear.
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  651. And he did not buy the bass there.
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  655. He really ordered it.
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  659. So Steinway called Huffner.
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  663. Can you make this Vial bass by hand on the left?
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  667. It is of course a quite symmetrical model.
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  671. So I said to him, oh, we can do that very easily.
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  675. And then a special Pommelkart was made in a left-handed model.
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  679. Because at that time there was also no left-handed model
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  683. of that type in the official price list.
  684.  
  685. 172
  686. 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,200
  687. So that is actually proof of one thing.
  688.  
  689. 173
  690. 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,200
  691. And then with eBay, Reverb, all foreign security sites,
  692.  
  693. 174
  694. 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200
  695. sites where Huffner and Samelaars come together,
  696.  
  697. 175
  698. 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,200
  699. Facebook groups.
  700.  
  701. 176
  702. 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,200
  703. There has never been a left-handed Vial bass,
  704.  
  705. 177
  706. 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,200
  707. the older one is not from Pommelkart.
  708.  
  709. 178
  710. 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,200
  711. So until now we can say that he was the first.
  712.  
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  714. 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,200
  715. That's nice, that's nice.
  716.  
  717. 180
  718. 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200
  719. Chris, can you tell us what this means?
  720.  
  721. 181
  722. 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200
  723. That you have to convert a bass to a left-handed one.
  724.  
  725. 182
  726. 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200
  727. So of course the strings have to be different.
  728.  
  729. 183
  730. 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,200
  731. But I also assume that the thing where the plug goes in,
  732.  
  733. 184
  734. 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,200
  735. that has to come to another place.
  736.  
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  738. 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,200
  739. What does it all come with?
  740.  
  741. 186
  742. 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,200
  743. Normally, when you take a left-handed instrument,
  744.  
  745. 187
  746. 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,200
  747. you take an instrument that is asymmetrical.
  748.  
  749. 188
  750. 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,200
  751. You often have a band attached to it.
  752.  
  753. 189
  754. 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,200
  755. We call it the top horn, which stands out a little more.
  756.  
  757. 190
  758. 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,200
  759. And that stands out a little less on the bottom.
  760.  
  761. 191
  762. 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,200
  763. And Jimmy Hendricks, for example,
  764.  
  765. 192
  766. 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,200
  767. always played on a press-handed guitar,
  768.  
  769. 193
  770. 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,200
  771. but then turned around.
  772.  
  773. 194
  774. 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,200
  775. It always looks a little weird.
  776.  
  777. 195
  778. 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,200
  779. What is important is that you indeed have to change
  780.  
  781. 196
  782. 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,200
  783. your setting, your bridge and your top.
  784.  
  785. 197
  786. 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,200
  787. Change the input for your plug and the panel where the buttons are.
  788.  
  789. 198
  790. 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,200
  791. Because otherwise those buttons actually
  792.  
  793. 199
  794. 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,200
  795. are a little bit in the way for your top arm when you play.
  796.  
  797. 200
  798. 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200
  799. So you have to change the button panel.
  800.  
  801. 201
  802. 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,200
  803. The fun part is that there are those farms
  804.  
  805. 202
  806. 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,200
  807. that have also come through a bit.
  808.  
  809. 203
  810. 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,200
  811. The Vial bass is a symmetrical bass.
  812.  
  813. 204
  814. 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,200
  815. So if you turn it around, you see it yourself.
  816.  
  817. 205
  818. 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,200
  819. But you indeed have to replace the control panel
  820.  
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  822. 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200
  823. and the input.
  824.  
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  827. I can't tell you so much about that.
  828.  
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  830. 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,200
  831. It's very difficult to see where I have to start,
  832.  
  833. 209
  834. 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,200
  835. but everything comes with it.
  836.  
  837. 210
  838. 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,200
  839. The Huffner bass was actually launched in 1955.
  840.  
  841. 211
  842. 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,200
  843. Probably Gibson bought the Huffner Gibson
  844.  
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  846. 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,200
  847. a little bit, because Gibson also had a model
  848.  
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  850. 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,200
  851. with a Vial form.
  852.  
  853. 214
  854. 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,200
  855. But that was a massive bass.
  856.  
  857. 215
  858. 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,200
  859. It's a massive piece of wood, while the Vial bass is a hollow bass.
  860.  
  861. 216
  862. 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,200
  863. It's actually a bit of a weird bass in its Vial form.
  864.  
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  866. 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,200
  867. And it was also very popular.
  868.  
  869. 218
  870. 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,200
  871. And actually the only place where that bass was popular
  872.  
  873. 219
  874. 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,200
  875. was in the Netherlands, because a lot of Indorockers
  876.  
  877. 220
  878. 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,200
  879. played on Vial bass.
  880.  
  881. 221
  882. 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,200
  883. So they made a lot of things and they went a lot
  884.  
  885. 222
  886. 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,200
  887. to the Netherlands.
  888.  
  889. 223
  890. 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,200
  891. The Huffner had, for example, no serial number system.
  892.  
  893. 224
  894. 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,200
  895. The importer did that himself.
  896.  
  897. 225
  898. 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,200
  899. And the Dutch importer of Wauw put
  900.  
  901. 226
  902. 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,200
  903. his own serial number on top of his head.
  904.  
  905. 227
  906. 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,200
  907. So you get a lot of old basses who,
  908.  
  909. 228
  910. 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,200
  911. what we call Dutch Huffners,
  912.  
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  915. are imported from Wauw.
  916.  
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  918. 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200
  919. The bass bass wasn't that popular.
  920.  
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  923. Probably the Huffner always makes a pre-bass.
  924.  
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  927. That says, you know what, we're making
  928.  
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  930. 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200
  931. ten Vial basses now.
  932.  
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  934. 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,200
  935. We make the Bordys, we make the Halzen,
  936.  
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  938. 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,200
  939. or we make the Twintig.
  940.  
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  943. And well, we're going to continue next week
  944.  
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  947. with the big model of the Toasthead Cliff.
  948.  
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  950. 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200
  951. And probably there have been a number of basses
  952.  
  953. 239
  954. 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,200
  955. on pre-bass.
  956.  
  957. 240
  958. 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,200
  959. Probably there was already a hole in it for the snoring
  960.  
  961. 241
  962. 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,200
  963. and there was already a hole in it for the control panel.
  964.  
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  967. Because all the basses that were delivered in that time
  968.  
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  970. 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,200
  971. were a version with a flat back.
  972.  
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  975. Then you think, what does it make?
  976.  
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  979. I'll come back to that.
  980.  
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  983. Pommelkarty just ordered one.
  984.  
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  986. 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,200
  987. And probably there were a lot of those basses
  988.  
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  990. 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,200
  991. who were ready to go.
  992.  
  993. 249
  994. 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200
  995. But they couldn't make it any more convenient
  996.  
  997. 250
  998. 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,200
  999. because the gate was already in the wrong place.
  1000.  
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  1002. 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,200
  1003. And they made a new one.
  1004.  
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  1006. 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,200
  1007. In 1962, basses came with a bolle on the back.
  1008.  
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  1010. 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,200
  1011. And now the bass is back.
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  1015. Nobody knew that at all.
  1016.  
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  1018. 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,200
  1019. Even the experts, it turned out that Pommelkarty's bass had a bolle on the back.
  1020.  
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  1023. And then everyone has to go back and say, how is that possible?
  1024.  
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  1027. It's all speculation.
  1028.  
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  1031. But we think that Huffner probably had ten basses ready.
  1032.  
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  1035. For a year, Pommelkarty ordered the left-hand one.
  1036.  
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  1039. That they thought, oh shit, we have to build a completely new one now
  1040.  
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  1043. with the right gate.
  1044.  
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  1047. And then that was the first one with a bolle on the back.
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  1051. And what does that make of?
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  1055. It doesn't make any difference at all.
  1056.  
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  1059. You feel a little bit like you're hanging around.
  1060.  
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  1063. But it's actually more because it's a very strange bass,
  1064.  
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  1067. the first left-hand one.
  1068.  
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  1071. And it actually has too modern specifications for what it has to be.
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  1075. So that makes the mystery even bigger.
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  1079. Oh yeah.
  1080.  
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  1083. And was he now in that time?
  1084.  
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  1087. Was such a Huffner now more expensive or cheaper than a mid-bass?
  1088.  
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  1090. 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,200
  1091. It was very difficult to get American basses in Europe.
  1092.  
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  1094. 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,200
  1095. So we played the best of it.
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  1098. 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,200
  1099. Fender and Gibson, Rick and Bakker and things like that.
  1100.  
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  1103. That was very difficult to get.
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  1107. We also know the story of George Harrison,
  1108.  
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  1111. who first bought the scratch of a seaman or a military car
  1112.  
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  1115. that he bought with America.
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  1119. That just didn't come into the store.
  1120.  
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  1123. So Huffner was just much cheaper than American instruments.
  1124.  
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  1127. And the word is often said, well, it's a cheap bass, blah, blah, blah.
  1128.  
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  1131. But it's just a well-built German bass,
  1132.  
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  1135. which then had a pretty good price,
  1136.  
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  1139. but just cheaper than American opponents.
  1140.  
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  1143. And it's light, isn't it?
  1144.  
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  1147. Super light.
  1148.  
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  1151. Yes, that was one of the reasons, at least what Pompkart didn't always say,
  1152.  
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  1155. why he was good at buying those bass-choices in combination with the fact that he was cheap.
  1156.  
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  1159. And of course he was able to be very mobile and dynamic on stage with the things he bought.
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  1163. Yes, exactly.
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  1167. This has to be a huge complaint for the company Huffner, right?
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  1171. McCartney on Huffner.
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  1175. Yes, that's right.
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  1179. It was even so that there was no left-hand bass in the price list,
  1180.  
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  1183. but in England that bass was completely unreachable.
  1184.  
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  1186. 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,200
  1187. And when McCartney started playing, he came on television,
  1188.  
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  1190. 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,200
  1191. asked for a bass, and suddenly at Huffner's order,
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  1194. 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,200
  1195. from the importer in England, from Selmer,
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  1199. just do 500.
  1200.  
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  1203. And she thought, wait, just 500.
  1204.  
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  1207. Is this not a mistake?
  1208.  
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  1211. Because we sell 10 per year in the Netherlands for the interlocutors
  1212.  
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  1215. and 5 in Germany and 2 in Norway.
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  1219. So at the point that she actually wanted to call Selmer from 500,
  1220.  
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  1223. you don't mean 50,
  1224.  
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  1227. she got a message from just doing 5,000.
  1228.  
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  1231. So it really went from 10 numbers to 100,000.
  1232.  
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  1235. So for Huffner that was really important.
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  1239. Now it is so that Huffner is mainly in the classical instruments.
  1240.  
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  1243. There are people who claim that Huffner had been there for a long time,
  1244.  
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  1247. as long as McCartney had been there.
  1248.  
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  1251. But most of the money still comes from the contrabassist and the viola
  1252.  
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  1255. and the classical instruments, so it was...
  1256.  
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  1259. But it's also special, because McCartney really chose it himself.
  1260.  
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  1263. I mean, according to the story of George Bezoek,
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  1267. when he was there in February,
  1268.  
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  1271. he said, do you want to test something?
  1272.  
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  1275. And then that keeps hanging.
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  1279. But McCartney just chose it himself.
  1280.  
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  1283. Yes, exactly.
  1284.  
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  1287. And I'm going to tell you a little bit about what I said before.
  1288.  
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  1291. There were also different stories about it.
  1292.  
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  1295. Of course, the other Beatles also had Huffner models.
  1296.  
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  1299. So for them it was a brand that they knew and trusted.
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  1303. I don't dare to call the band a bit,
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  1307. but the Beatles or maybe the Corrie Man,
  1308.  
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  1311. or maybe I used to have one before,
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  1315. but from the band that already had a viola bass,
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  1319. probably also played in Germany.
  1320.  
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  1323. And Paul McCartney claimed that he had seen a few concerts
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  1327. by an American artist,
  1328.  
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  1331. where the bassist had a Gibson bass,
  1332.  
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  1335. which looked a bit like that Huffner bass.
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  1337. 335
  1338. 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,200
  1339. So maybe it was all sails that were planned then.
  1340.  
  1341. 336
  1342. 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,200
  1343. And then he thought, oh yes, this bass is symmetrical.
  1344.  
  1345. 337
  1346. 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,200
  1347. It doesn't look weird when I order it left-handed.
  1348.  
  1349. 338
  1350. 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,200
  1351. And indeed, it's nice and light.
  1352.  
  1353. 339
  1354. 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200
  1355. So you can throw it with me and say, I'm a bassist myself.
  1356.  
  1357. 340
  1358. 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,200
  1359. And if you have a light bass, you can move it nicely.
  1360.  
  1361. 341
  1362. 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200
  1363. If you have a light bass, you can put the air in it,
  1364.  
  1365. 342
  1366. 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,200
  1367. what Paul McCartney often does.
  1368.  
  1369. 343
  1370. 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,200
  1371. You can actually move it a bit more.
  1372.  
  1373. 344
  1374. 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,200
  1375. I would almost want to say more with dancers.
  1376.  
  1377. 345
  1378. 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,200
  1379. But with bass, of course, you also have to...
  1380.  
  1381. 346
  1382. 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,200
  1383. That's why they are so heavy, I think.
  1384.  
  1385. 347
  1386. 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,200
  1387. Just have a nice deep sound.
  1388.  
  1389. 348
  1390. 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,200
  1391. Is that not a problem with such a light bass?
  1392.  
  1393. 349
  1394. 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,200
  1395. That something sounds better?
  1396.  
  1397. 350
  1398. 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,200
  1399. No, actually, it's very nice and full.
  1400.  
  1401. 351
  1402. 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,200
  1403. And it's like a bass is longer than a guitar.
  1404.  
  1405. 352
  1406. 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,200
  1407. That's why you can already see it.
  1408.  
  1409. 353
  1410. 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,200
  1411. Yes, there's more wood in it for the neck.
  1412.  
  1413. 354
  1414. 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,200
  1415. That often makes it a bit heavier.
  1416.  
  1417. 355
  1418. 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,200
  1419. And yes, bass should be strong.
  1420.  
  1421. 356
  1422. 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,200
  1423. The tension of the bass is about 80 kilos.
  1424.  
  1425. 357
  1426. 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,200
  1427. So something like that has to be good together.
  1428.  
  1429. 358
  1430. 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,200
  1431. And you have to be really good together.
  1432.  
  1433. 359
  1434. 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,200
  1435. Okay, but at some point,
  1436.  
  1437. 360
  1438. 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,200
  1439. you choose to take it away from about 65 kilos.
  1440.  
  1441. 361
  1442. 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200
  1443. Yes, that's right.
  1444.  
  1445. 362
  1446. 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,200
  1447. Is the Hovner only used for tournaments?
  1448.  
  1449. 363
  1450. 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,200
  1451. And then it ends up at the get-back sessions, of course.
  1452.  
  1453. 364
  1454. 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,200
  1455. That's right, yes.
  1456.  
  1457. 365
  1458. 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,200
  1459. Why do you choose that?
  1460.  
  1461. 366
  1462. 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,200
  1463. Is it the sound that fits better?
  1464.  
  1465. 367
  1466. 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,200
  1467. Yes, maybe.
  1468.  
  1469. 368
  1470. 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,200
  1471. You can also change it a little.
  1472.  
  1473. 369
  1474. 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,200
  1475. He played it on the Fender bass for a while.
  1476.  
  1477. 370
  1478. 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,200
  1479. In his Wings time, it was completely Rickenbacker.
  1480.  
  1481. 371
  1482. 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,200
  1483. And then he said, I just wanted to have a different sound.
  1484.  
  1485. 372
  1486. 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,200
  1487. The Beatles was Fjolbass and Wings,
  1488.  
  1489. 373
  1490. 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,200
  1491. maybe more Rickenbacker if you look at it.
  1492.  
  1493. 374
  1494. 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,200
  1495. Of course, he also took part in half of the Beatles career.
  1496.  
  1497. 375
  1498. 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,200
  1499. That's what he said.
  1500.  
  1501. 376
  1502. 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,200
  1503. Yes, exactly.
  1504.  
  1505. 377
  1506. 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,200
  1507. But he probably never played the Beatles on the Rickenbacker.
  1508.  
  1509. 378
  1510. 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,200
  1511. No, that's right.
  1512.  
  1513. 379
  1514. 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,200
  1515. So he thinks maybe with the Beatles,
  1516.  
  1517. 380
  1518. 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,200
  1519. that he saw that it was the Beatles bass
  1520.  
  1521. 381
  1522. 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,200
  1523. and the Rickenbacker with the Wings bass.
  1524.  
  1525. 382
  1526. 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,200
  1527. And I think, yeah, bassists.
  1528.  
  1529. 383
  1530. 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,200
  1531. There are also the other Beatles.
  1532.  
  1533. 384
  1534. 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,200
  1535. The new snoop.
  1536.  
  1537. 385
  1538. 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,200
  1539. You see a new bass.
  1540.  
  1541. 386
  1542. 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200
  1543. And then you think, oh yeah, that sounds very nice.
  1544.  
  1545. 387
  1546. 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,200
  1547. That's why you also have 35, of course.
  1548.  
  1549. 388
  1550. 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,200
  1551. Yes, exactly.
  1552.  
  1553. 389
  1554. 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,200
  1555. And sometimes you play on one bass for a while
  1556.  
  1557. 390
  1558. 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,200
  1559. and then you think, oh, but that sounds nice too.
  1560.  
  1561. 391
  1562. 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,200
  1563. Because then you go back to the first one three months later.
  1564.  
  1565. 392
  1566. 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,200
  1567. Because they all have different sounds.
  1568.  
  1569. 393
  1570. 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,200
  1571. So it's often also a bit of a snoop of the week, say.
  1572.  
  1573. 394
  1574. 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,200
  1575. Yes, yes.
  1576.  
  1577. 395
  1578. 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,200
  1579. Now of course McCartney plays in the early Beatles time.
  1580.  
  1581. 396
  1582. 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,200
  1583. On the bass, also on the Please Please Me.
  1584.  
  1585. 397
  1586. 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,200
  1587. And I think also with the Beatles.
  1588.  
  1589. 398
  1590. 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,200
  1591. Maybe another part.
  1592.  
  1593. 399
  1594. 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,200
  1595. And the early singles.
  1596.  
  1597. 400
  1598. 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,200
  1599. Yes.
  1600.  
  1601. 401
  1602. 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,200
  1603. So let's go to a few of those fragments.
  1604.  
  1605. 402
  1606. 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,200
  1607. Songs where the first bass of Paul McCartney is used.
  1608.  
  1609. 403
  1610. 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,200
  1611. Yes.
  1612.  
  1613. 404
  1614. 00:19:49,200 --> 00:20:16,200
  1615. Well, that was his Paul McCartney on his very first bass.
  1616.  
  1617. 405
  1618. 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,200
  1619. And then in 1963 he buys a second one.
  1620.  
  1621. 406
  1622. 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,200
  1623. Yes.
  1624.  
  1625. 407
  1626. 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,200
  1627. What is the difference?
  1628.  
  1629. 408
  1630. 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,200
  1631. Why?
  1632.  
  1633. 409
  1634. 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,200
  1635. Because they are, I think, quite the same.
  1636.  
  1637. 410
  1638. 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,200
  1639. It should be the same sound.
  1640.  
  1641. 411
  1642. 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,200
  1643. Yes.
  1644.  
  1645. 412
  1646. 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,200
  1647. Why does he buy a new one, do you think?
  1648.  
  1649. 413
  1650. 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,200
  1651. Well, it's like that.
  1652.  
  1653. 414
  1654. 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,200
  1655. Paul McCartney has played a lot of that bass.
  1656.  
  1657. 415
  1658. 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200
  1659. And he actually has played it broken.
  1660.  
  1661. 416
  1662. 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,200
  1663. He has done so many exercises.
  1664.  
  1665. 417
  1666. 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,200
  1667. Yes.
  1668.  
  1669. 418
  1670. 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,200
  1671. When I play so many, all the recordings.
  1672.  
  1673. 419
  1674. 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200
  1675. Then you start with everything at some point.
  1676.  
  1677. 420
  1678. 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,200
  1679. I won't play too much in that time.
  1680.  
  1681. 421
  1682. 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,200
  1683. But the elements are in a sort of plastic ring.
  1684.  
  1685. 422
  1686. 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,200
  1687. And the plastic ring can break.
  1688.  
  1689. 423
  1690. 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,200
  1691. That also happens to me.
  1692.  
  1693. 424
  1694. 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,200
  1695. The button suddenly goes off.
  1696.  
  1697. 425
  1698. 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,200
  1699. Yes, such a bass has to be set off at the end.
  1700.  
  1701. 426
  1702. 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,200
  1703. It has to stay in the bottom.
  1704.  
  1705. 427
  1706. 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,200
  1707. Just like a car.
  1708.  
  1709. 428
  1710. 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,200
  1711. If you drive your car, you just have to replace things.
  1712.  
  1713. 429
  1714. 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200
  1715. With a bass, if you play a lot, it also happens one way or another.
  1716.  
  1717. 430
  1718. 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,200
  1719. So Paul McCartney thought, hey, this bass is getting a little less.
  1720.  
  1721. 431
  1722. 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200
  1723. I buy a second one.
  1724.  
  1725. 432
  1726. 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,200
  1727. That's his 1963, which is still live on the stage.
  1728.  
  1729. 433
  1730. 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,200
  1731. To be seen.
  1732.  
  1733. 434
  1734. 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,200
  1735. Yes.
  1736.  
  1737. 435
  1738. 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,200
  1739. Then he has his first bass.
  1740.  
  1741. 436
  1742. 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,200
  1743. He has let go of it.
  1744.  
  1745. 437
  1746. 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,200
  1747. Through a shop.
  1748.  
  1749. 438
  1750. 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,200
  1751. And he has probably helped a group of Burns.
  1752.  
  1753. 439
  1754. 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,200
  1755. The guitar brand.
  1756.  
  1757. 440
  1758. 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,200
  1759. And they actually did a lot of weird things with it.
  1760.  
  1761. 441
  1762. 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,200
  1763. They just had to go to the Huffner-imperateur with Sharon Cross.
  1764.  
  1765. 442
  1766. 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,200
  1767. But they thought, well, we can do that ourselves too.
  1768.  
  1769. 443
  1770. 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,200
  1771. So they have the bass of a new lacquer layer.
  1772.  
  1773. 444
  1774. 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,200
  1775. Which was actually too thick.
  1776.  
  1777. 445
  1778. 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,200
  1779. And not this Huffner's.
  1780.  
  1781. 446
  1782. 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,200
  1783. Much more black and red instead of brown and yellow.
  1784.  
  1785. 447
  1786. 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,200
  1787. And they have those two elements that are normally in plastic rings.
  1788.  
  1789. 448
  1790. 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,200
  1791. They have put in a sort of wooden block.
  1792.  
  1793. 449
  1794. 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,200
  1795. And later the control panel has been replaced a few years later.
  1796.  
  1797. 450
  1798. 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,200
  1799. And yes, when Paul got his new bass, he actually started playing there.
  1800.  
  1801. 451
  1802. 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,200
  1803. And the old bass has become a reserve bass after the repairs.
  1804.  
  1805. 452
  1806. 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200
  1807. Of course, it is now that we have grown a bit since the nineties.
  1808.  
  1809. 453
  1810. 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,200
  1811. Of course, the Beatles have actually grown bigger than they used to be.
  1812.  
  1813. 454
  1814. 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,200
  1815. And we are all going to read books, going to write books.
  1816.  
  1817. 455
  1818. 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,200
  1819. All of the Beatles have been made, made into a sort of gold.
  1820.  
  1821. 456
  1822. 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,200
  1823. But at that time, of course, there were a few pieces of business for Paul McCartney.
  1824.  
  1825. 457
  1826. 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200
  1827. He had a bass that was a bit broken, let it repair.
  1828.  
  1829. 458
  1830. 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,200
  1831. He had a new one and he is going to play on it.
  1832.  
  1833. 459
  1834. 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,200
  1835. So actually it is very pragmatic, very practical.
  1836.  
  1837. 460
  1838. 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,200
  1839. But now, yes, the Beatles have grown so big that they are going to make a podcast about it today.
  1840.  
  1841. 461
  1842. 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,200
  1843. And I didn't think of that at the time.
  1844.  
  1845. 462
  1846. 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,200
  1847. We are making a podcast in the seventies, so...
  1848.  
  1849. 463
  1850. 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,200
  1851. Oh, yes, okay, then we have to get back to it.
  1852.  
  1853. 464
  1854. 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,200
  1855. The story goes that he, in the years, I thought in the nineties or so,
  1856.  
  1857. 465
  1858. 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,200
  1859. his boss has completely let it repair.
  1860.  
  1861. 466
  1862. 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,200
  1863. I thought in America.
  1864.  
  1865. 467
  1866. 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,200
  1867. And that his personal assistant, John Hammel,
  1868.  
  1869. 468
  1870. 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,200
  1871. has reserved a special chair in the Concorde for that bass.
  1872.  
  1873. 469
  1874. 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,200
  1875. And that he, together with John Hammel,
  1876.  
  1877. 470
  1878. 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,200
  1879. went to America with that bass and has completely repaired it.
  1880.  
  1881. 471
  1882. 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200
  1883. So at that time it must have been very special
  1884.  
  1885. 472
  1886. 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,200
  1887. to let that bass be repaired and then by someone in America.
  1888.  
  1889. 473
  1890. 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200
  1891. So not to the factory.
  1892.  
  1893. 474
  1894. 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,200
  1895. Do you know why he went to America?
  1896.  
  1897. 475
  1898. 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,200
  1899. Yes, that's a fun story.
  1900.  
  1901. 476
  1902. 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,200
  1903. To make it clear, we now have about the second bass of Paul McCartney.
  1904.  
  1905. 477
  1906. 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,200
  1907. The first was, at some point, disappeared in what we always thought in the sixties.
  1908.  
  1909. 478
  1910. 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200
  1911. But I think it was in the seventies.
  1912.  
  1913. 479
  1914. 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,200
  1915. So the second bass in the sixties, he has played it for a long time.
  1916.  
  1917. 480
  1918. 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200
  1919. And even that bass, after a while, just went underground.
  1920.  
  1921. 481
  1922. 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,200
  1923. He went to the chest with Paul McCartney in the trunk.
  1924.  
  1925. 482
  1926. 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,200
  1927. Until he approached Elvis Costello.
  1928.  
  1929. 483
  1930. 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,200
  1931. And Elvis said, you have Paul McCartney.
  1932.  
  1933. 484
  1934. 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,200
  1935. Actually, I would like to hear you on your head.
  1936.  
  1937. 485
  1938. 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,200
  1939. So special recording with Elvis Costello,
  1940.  
  1941. 486
  1942. 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200
  1943. has Paul McCartney, I think, already opened a warehouse or a chest,
  1944.  
  1945. 487
  1946. 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,200
  1947. packed an old suitcase, and there the bass came to appear.
  1948.  
  1949. 488
  1950. 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,200
  1951. And at that moment there was also a setlist taped up,
  1952.  
  1953. 489
  1954. 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,200
  1955. very small on the side.
  1956.  
  1957. 490
  1958. 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:19,200
  1959. Also, that bass was just an underground tour.
  1960.  
  1961. 491
  1962. 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,200
  1963. It had already been quiet for a long time.
  1964.  
  1965. 492
  1966. 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,200
  1967. It was played a lot.
  1968.  
  1969. 493
  1970. 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,200
  1971. And what I can say, just like a car.
  1972.  
  1973. 494
  1974. 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200
  1975. Sometimes you just have to replace something or repair it for a while.
  1976.  
  1977. 495
  1978. 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,200
  1979. APK.
  1980.  
  1981. 496
  1982. 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,200
  1983. APK, something like that.
  1984.  
  1985. 497
  1986. 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,200
  1987. And then there was a moment, I think, that it was later,
  1988.  
  1989. 498
  1990. 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,200
  1991. that it was clear that the bass had that story.
  1992.  
  1993. 499
  1994. 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,200
  1995. One was gone, and this bass was over.
  1996.  
  1997. 500
  1998. 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,200
  1999. And it was, of course, the remaining bass.
  2000.  
  2001. 501
  2002. 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,200
  2003. Then the bass indeed flew to the Mendelin Brothers,
  2004.  
  2005. 502
  2006. 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,200
  2007. Mendelin Brothers in Brooklyn, as I said.
  2008.  
  2009. 503
  2010. 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,200
  2011. That's where the bass really got up.
  2012.  
  2013. 504
  2014. 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,200
  2015. The story is indeed true, that he got his own plane seat.
  2016.  
  2017. 505
  2018. 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,200
  2019. That still happens with expensive instruments.
  2020.  
  2021. 506
  2022. 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,200
  2023. And then there comes another fun story,
  2024.  
  2025. 507
  2026. 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,200
  2027. the repair of the Mendelin Brothers.
  2028.  
  2029. 508
  2030. 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,200
  2031. That was Flip CPO.
  2032.  
  2033. 509
  2034. 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,200
  2035. And that's a Dutchman.
  2036.  
  2037. 510
  2038. 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,200
  2039. He's just from Echmond.
  2040.  
  2041. 511
  2042. 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,200
  2043. So the current bass of Pommelkart, which is now played,
  2044.  
  2045. 512
  2046. 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,200
  2047. is actually completely revised by a Dutchman.
  2048.  
  2049. 513
  2050. 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200
  2051. Tell us, and why after the Mendelin Brothers?
  2052.  
  2053. 514
  2054. 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200
  2055. Are they famous?
  2056.  
  2057. 515
  2058. 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200
  2059. Yes, at that time, I think Pommelkart had chosen a lot of companies.
  2060.  
  2061. 516
  2062. 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200
  2063. I could have chosen, it was a renowned company
  2064.  
  2065. 517
  2066. 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,200
  2067. that built guitars and repaired for quite a few large areas.
  2068.  
  2069. 518
  2070. 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200
  2071. And I think that in that time it was also that he wanted to repair guitars,
  2072.  
  2073. 519
  2074. 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200
  2075. that he came across an aircraft crash that day,
  2076.  
  2077. 520
  2078. 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,200
  2079. or that that crash was going on that day.
  2080.  
  2081. 521
  2082. 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,200
  2083. And he said, hey, what is such a good address?
  2084.  
  2085. 522
  2086. 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,200
  2087. And then he said, oh, you have to go there.
  2088.  
  2089. 523
  2090. 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,200
  2091. That it was actually in that way again,
  2092.  
  2093. 524
  2094. 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,200
  2095. that it could also be in another place.
  2096.  
  2097. 525
  2098. 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,200
  2099. I think a lot of things are best more coincidental,
  2100.  
  2101. 526
  2102. 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200
  2103. or more so, as they have been,
  2104.  
  2105. 527
  2106. 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,200
  2107. than that there really is a magic or a story behind it.
  2108.  
  2109. 528
  2110. 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200
  2111. It's not like the Mendelin Brothers
  2112.  
  2113. 529
  2114. 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,200
  2115. were all known for their rough repairs or something like that.
  2116.  
  2117. 530
  2118. 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,200
  2119. That's not the case.
  2120.  
  2121. 531
  2122. 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,200
  2123. I'm not allowed to ask questions like that.
  2124.  
  2125. 532
  2126. 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,200
  2127. Tell me that the story is a bit wrong.
  2128.  
  2129. 533
  2130. 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,200
  2131. So George Harrison is offered a Rickenbacker,
  2132.  
  2133. 534
  2134. 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,200
  2135. and Warenpole, in the room next to me,
  2136.  
  2137. 535
  2138. 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,200
  2139. is also offered a Rickenbacker in 1964.
  2140.  
  2141. 536
  2142. 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,200
  2143. And then it goes on to, for example, The Hardest Night.
  2144.  
  2145. 537
  2146. 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200
  2147. What do you get for a difference in sound?
  2148.  
  2149. 538
  2150. 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,200
  2151. Is, for example, the Rickenbacker,
  2152.  
  2153. 539
  2154. 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,200
  2155. as we know it from Paperback Writer and Rain,
  2156.  
  2157. 540
  2158. 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200
  2159. very dominant, very full, very rich.
  2160.  
  2161. 541
  2162. 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200
  2163. Is that nature in the Rickenbacker,
  2164.  
  2165. 542
  2166. 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,200
  2167. or is it more in the mix?
  2168.  
  2169. 543
  2170. 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
  2171. How the number is mixed?
  2172.  
  2173. 544
  2174. 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,200
  2175. Exactly.
  2176.  
  2177. 545
  2178. 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,200
  2179. Or what kind of difference would you get?
  2180.  
  2181. 546
  2182. 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200
  2183. I think a little bit of both.
  2184.  
  2185. 547
  2186. 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,200
  2187. A fun anecdote of myself.
  2188.  
  2189. 548
  2190. 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200
  2191. I took up a studio in Belgium once,
  2192.  
  2193. 549
  2194. 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200
  2195. and I had seven bass guitars with me.
  2196.  
  2197. 550
  2198. 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200
  2199. And those seven basses go through D-Ice,
  2200.  
  2201. 551
  2202. 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200
  2203. now they're sent to my amplifier via bank table.
  2204.  
  2205. 552
  2206. 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,200
  2207. And there are now microphones in front of them,
  2208.  
  2209. 553
  2210. 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,200
  2211. and then it's mixed, and then compressors come over.
  2212.  
  2213. 554
  2214. 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200
  2215. And when the album was ready, I thought,
  2216.  
  2217. 555
  2218. 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200
  2219. I don't actually hear which bass is on which number anymore.
  2220.  
  2221. 556
  2222. 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,200
  2223. I myself think that a guitar
  2224.  
  2225. 557
  2226. 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,200
  2227. that gives more color.
  2228.  
  2229. 558
  2230. 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,200
  2231. I always say the bass and drum give a base to it.
  2232.  
  2233. 559
  2234. 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200
  2235. They have a kind of base sound.
  2236.  
  2237. 560
  2238. 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,200
  2239. And with a guitar you have much more the difference
  2240.  
  2241. 561
  2242. 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,200
  2243. of the choice of an acoustic guitar,
  2244.  
  2245. 562
  2246. 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,200
  2247. or a brighter Fender, or a brighter Rickenbacker,
  2248.  
  2249. 563
  2250. 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200
  2251. or a darker Gibson.
  2252.  
  2253. 564
  2254. 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,200
  2255. That's a very simple step.
  2256.  
  2257. 565
  2258. 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,200
  2259. The fun thing is that there are a number of Beatles
  2260.  
  2261. 566
  2262. 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,200
  2263. that are still not known
  2264.  
  2265. 567
  2266. 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200
  2267. what Paul McCartney played exactly.
  2268.  
  2269. 568
  2270. 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200
  2271. And then there are people who say, hey, listen to this.
  2272.  
  2273. 569
  2274. 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200
  2275. I played this on my headphones, blah, blah, blah,
  2276.  
  2277. 570
  2278. 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,200
  2279. it sounds exactly like the number.
  2280.  
  2281. 571
  2282. 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200
  2283. And then he says to me, yes, but I played it on a Rickenbacker.
  2284.  
  2285. 572
  2286. 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,200
  2287. And I also sound exactly like the number.
  2288.  
  2289. 573
  2290. 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200
  2291. And then the third one says, I played it on a Fender.
  2292.  
  2293. 574
  2294. 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,200
  2295. So it's also recorded.
  2296.  
  2297. 575
  2298. 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,200
  2299. You can treat it in some way that it comes very close to each other.
  2300.  
  2301. 576
  2302. 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200
  2303. But if you put those two basses next to each other,
  2304.  
  2305. 577
  2306. 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,200
  2307. there are huge differences.
  2308.  
  2309. 578
  2310. 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,200
  2311. Actually, the difference is that the Rickenbacker
  2312.  
  2313. 579
  2314. 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,200
  2315. is a so-called long scale bass.
  2316.  
  2317. 580
  2318. 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,200
  2319. That's actually the normal length of the most bass guitars.
  2320.  
  2321. 581
  2322. 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,200
  2323. I think that 35 percent of the bass guitars in the world
  2324.  
  2325. 582
  2326. 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,200
  2327. are long scale.
  2328.  
  2329. 583
  2330. 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200
  2331. And that means that the snare length is 34 inches.
  2332.  
  2333. 584
  2334. 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200
  2335. That means it's still an inch.
  2336.  
  2337. 585
  2338. 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200
  2339. And the short scale bass is 30 inches.
  2340.  
  2341. 586
  2342. 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200
  2343. So a short bass is 10 centimeters shorter.
  2344.  
  2345. 587
  2346. 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,200
  2347. In the 1960s, the short scale basses
  2348.  
  2349. 588
  2350. 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,200
  2351. that were in the short scale basses were
  2352.  
  2353. 589
  2354. 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200
  2355. very much in.
  2356.  
  2357. 590
  2358. 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200
  2359. Jack Bruce, Rien Scherz, Frank Reijfeld,
  2360.  
  2361. 591
  2362. 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200
  2363. a lot of Sissies bass players
  2364.  
  2365. 592
  2366. 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,200
  2367. play on a short scale.
  2368.  
  2369. 593
  2370. 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200
  2371. And the Huffner is hollow.
  2372.  
  2373. 594
  2374. 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,200
  2375. So you actually have a short hollow bass
  2376.  
  2377. 595
  2378. 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,200
  2379. and a long, massive bass.
  2380.  
  2381. 596
  2382. 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,200
  2383. What is still a surprise,
  2384.  
  2385. 597
  2386. 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200
  2387. is that Fender bass has a smooth neck
  2388.  
  2389. 598
  2390. 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,200
  2391. which gives a very own sound.
  2392.  
  2393. 599
  2394. 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,200
  2395. And a Rickenbacker,
  2396.  
  2397. 600
  2398. 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200
  2399. it runs through the neck in the body.
  2400.  
  2401. 601
  2402. 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,200
  2403. So I have one very long piece of copper bridge.
  2404.  
  2405. 602
  2406. 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
  2407. And at the Huffner it is an inclined neck
  2408.  
  2409. 603
  2410. 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,200
  2411. that is closer to each other via sound.
  2412.  
  2413. 604
  2414. 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,200
  2415. But if you want to use it in sound,
  2416.  
  2417. 605
  2418. 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,200
  2419. then you can put a long note
  2420.  
  2421. 606
  2422. 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,200
  2423. with a Rickenbacker much nicer.
  2424.  
  2425. 607
  2426. 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,200
  2427. A Huffner bass, the notes are actually
  2428.  
  2429. 608
  2430. 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200
  2431. quite short. Through that hollow body
  2432.  
  2433. 609
  2434. 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,200
  2435. you get a kind of warmth,
  2436.  
  2437. 610
  2438. 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200
  2439. but you get a kind of short sound.
  2440.  
  2441. 611
  2442. 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
  2443. And if you play with a track, you actually get
  2444.  
  2445. 612
  2446. 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,200
  2447. a kind of low sound.
  2448.  
  2449. 613
  2450. 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200
  2451. But that sound is actually very short.
  2452.  
  2453. 614
  2454. 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
  2455. And I also think that Tom McCartney
  2456.  
  2457. 615
  2458. 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,200
  2459. plays, as he plays,
  2460.  
  2461. 616
  2462. 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200
  2463. for a few reasons. One of the reasons is that
  2464.  
  2465. 617
  2466. 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200
  2467. he is of course a brilliant musician.
  2468.  
  2469. 618
  2470. 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,200
  2471. Maybe one of the best musicians in history
  2472.  
  2473. 619
  2474. 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,200
  2475. of the world. That he can
  2476.  
  2477. 620
  2478. 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,200
  2479. think of fantastic bass lines.
  2480.  
  2481. 621
  2482. 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,200
  2483. And then you just have to put something
  2484.  
  2485. 622
  2486. 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200
  2487. on, hear how brilliant he is.
  2488.  
  2489. 623
  2490. 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,200
  2491. But because the Huffner has a fairly short tone
  2492.  
  2493. 624
  2494. 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,200
  2495. you actually have to keep playing.
  2496.  
  2497. 625
  2498. 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
  2499. You can't say, hey, I'm just putting
  2500.  
  2501. 626
  2502. 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
  2503. some more, but you have to keep playing
  2504.  
  2505. 627
  2506. 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,200
  2507. continuously on that trip.
  2508.  
  2509. 628
  2510. 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200
  2511. And I think that Tom McCartney plays so many notes
  2512.  
  2513. 629
  2514. 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200
  2515. that the bass actually comes to ask for it.
  2516.  
  2517. 630
  2518. 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200
  2519. Yes, that's what he learned
  2520.  
  2521. 631
  2522. 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200
  2523. on that Huffner, because that Huffner
  2524.  
  2525. 632
  2526. 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
  2527. just had too short notes and then
  2528.  
  2529. 633
  2530. 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
  2531. had to fill it up, he just had to play
  2532.  
  2533. 634
  2534. 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200
  2535. a lot of notes. And that's his style.
  2536.  
  2537. 635
  2538. 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200
  2539. That's right. I'm a little bit short on the
  2540.  
  2541. 636
  2542. 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200
  2543. corner, but here I can talk about it for an hour.
  2544.  
  2545. 637
  2546. 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200
  2547. And with a Rickenbacker you can play a very long note
  2548.  
  2549. 638
  2550. 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,200
  2551. with it. You also notice that he also
  2552.  
  2553. 639
  2554. 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200
  2555. does that again in Wings.
  2556.  
  2557. 640
  2558. 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,200
  2559. It's a Huffner.
  2560.  
  2561. 641
  2562. 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,200
  2563. Yes, with that Huffner up there.
  2564.  
  2565. 642
  2566. 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,200
  2567. That's good.
  2568.  
  2569. 643
  2570. 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200
  2571. I'm a nerd too.
  2572.  
  2573. 644
  2574. 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
  2575. I invited you to my party. I'm a bass nerd.
  2576.  
  2577. 645
  2578. 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200
  2579. Of course, that Huffner is a little bit
  2580.  
  2581. 646
  2582. 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200
  2583. difficult for foreigners, so in Engeland
  2584.  
  2585. 647
  2586. 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200
  2587. a lot of Huffners are delivered without the Huffner.
  2588.  
  2589. 648
  2590. 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,200
  2591. So you were specially sent to Engeland
  2592.  
  2593. 649
  2594. 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200
  2595. and a Huffner was there.
  2596.  
  2597. 650
  2598. 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,200
  2599. Yes, McCartney himself also says
  2600.  
  2601. 651
  2602. 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200
  2603. a Huffner for Huffner.
  2604.  
  2605. 652
  2606. 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,200
  2607. Yes, I think so too.
  2608.  
  2609. 653
  2610. 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,200
  2611. Tell us, what do those two buttons
  2612.  
  2613. 654
  2614. 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200
  2615. have to offer?
  2616.  
  2617. 655
  2618. 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,200
  2619. Yes, that's also a very nice
  2620.  
  2621. 656
  2622. 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,200
  2623. nerdy story.
  2624.  
  2625. 657
  2626. 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,200
  2627. Most basses have a volume button,
  2628.  
  2629. 658
  2630. 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
  2631. so that you can set up your front
  2632.  
  2633. 659
  2634. 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,200
  2635. elements. The element at the
  2636.  
  2637. 660
  2638. 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,200
  2639. neck sounds very warm.
  2640.  
  2641. 661
  2642. 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,200
  2643. There is your snar more in the middle,
  2644.  
  2645. 662
  2646. 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,200
  2647. so you can move a little more.
  2648.  
  2649. 663
  2650. 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,200
  2651. And very close to the bridge,
  2652.  
  2653. 664
  2654. 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,200
  2655. the snar is a little bit tighter.
  2656.  
  2657. 665
  2658. 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
  2659. You have to imagine that if you
  2660.  
  2661. 666
  2662. 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
  2663. have a elastic band or a string
  2664.  
  2665. 667
  2666. 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,200
  2667. between two points, that you can
  2668.  
  2669. 668
  2670. 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200
  2671. choose between those two buttons,
  2672.  
  2673. 669
  2674. 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200
  2675. whether you set up the front
  2676.  
  2677. 670
  2678. 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200
  2679. element or the rear element or both.
  2680.  
  2681. 671
  2682. 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,200
  2683. There are just two volume buttons,
  2684.  
  2685. 672
  2686. 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200
  2687. so you can choose between a little bit
  2688.  
  2689. 673
  2690. 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,200
  2691. warmer or a little bit warmer.
  2692.  
  2693. 674
  2694. 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200
  2695. And now it's fun for Huffner
  2696.  
  2697. 675
  2698. 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,200
  2699. and I take my own basses with me.
  2700.  
  2701. 676
  2702. 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,200
  2703. Between those two round
  2704.  
  2705. 677
  2706. 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200
  2707. three buttons are three knobs.
  2708.  
  2709. 678
  2710. 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,200
  2711. Yes, four knobs.
  2712.  
  2713. 679
  2714. 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200
  2715. The one that is close
  2716.  
  2717. 680
  2718. 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200
  2719. to the volume button on the neck
  2720.  
  2721. 681
  2722. 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200
  2723. is called Rhythm or Solo
  2724.  
  2725. 682
  2726. 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,200
  2727. and that is often called a bass boost.
  2728.  
  2729. 683
  2730. 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
  2731. If you set it to Solo, it gets a little
  2732.  
  2733. 684
  2734. 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,200
  2735. harder. Now a bass without a
  2736.  
  2737. 685
  2738. 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200
  2739. battery can never get harder, so you
  2740.  
  2741. 686
  2742. 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,200
  2743. set it a little softer if you set it to
  2744.  
  2745. 687
  2746. 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200
  2747. Rhythm. But you have a choice
  2748.  
  2749. 688
  2750. 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,200
  2751. for a few moments to set it
  2752.  
  2753. 689
  2754. 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,200
  2755. just a little harder than normal.
  2756.  
  2757. 690
  2758. 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,200
  2759. Now it's fun, the other two volume
  2760.  
  2761. 691
  2762. 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,200
  2763. buttons are called Bass On and Travel On.
  2764.  
  2765. 692
  2766. 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200
  2767. Well, Bass is the low tone,
  2768.  
  2769. 693
  2770. 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
  2771. that's about the neck pickup and
  2772.  
  2773. 694
  2774. 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200
  2775. Travel On is about the high tone,
  2776.  
  2777. 695
  2778. 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
  2779. that's the bridge pickup.
  2780.  
  2781. 696
  2782. 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,200
  2783. If you set it to Travel On,
  2784.  
  2785. 697
  2786. 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
  2787. then you set the bass element out
  2788.  
  2789. 698
  2790. 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200
  2791. and if you set it to Bass On,
  2792.  
  2793. 699
  2794. 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200
  2795. then you set the other element out.
  2796.  
  2797. 700
  2798. 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200
  2799. So if you set both buttons on,
  2800.  
  2801. 701
  2802. 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,200
  2803. then they are both out.
  2804.  
  2805. 702
  2806. 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200
  2807. And that's really bad,
  2808.  
  2809. 703
  2810. 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
  2811. so they set both out and they are
  2812.  
  2813. 704
  2814. 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200
  2815. both on. There is also this logic here,
  2816.  
  2817. 705
  2818. 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200
  2819. because if you want to hear one, you set the other out.
  2820.  
  2821. 706
  2822. 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
  2823. That's how you actually see it.
  2824.  
  2825. 707
  2826. 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200
  2827. So in short, yes, there are a lot of
  2828.  
  2829. 708
  2830. 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200
  2831. pictures of that control panel that you
  2832.  
  2833. 709
  2834. 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
  2835. share, that's how it works.
  2836.  
  2837. 710
  2838. 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200
  2839. That's wonderful.
  2840.  
  2841. 711
  2842. 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,200
  2843. Hufner has been thinking for a long time
  2844.  
  2845. 712
  2846. 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200
  2847. that we can just change it.
  2848.  
  2849. 713
  2850. 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200
  2851. But yes, the Paul McCartney fan
  2852.  
  2853. 714
  2854. 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
  2855. doesn't want it as Paul McCartney has it,
  2856.  
  2857. 715
  2858. 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200
  2859. so he would keep it.
  2860.  
  2861. 716
  2862. 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200
  2863. You can also play acoustic,
  2864.  
  2865. 717
  2866. 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
  2867. because there is a kind of soundcast, right?
  2868.  
  2869. 718
  2870. 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200
  2871. Yes, that's right.
  2872.  
  2873. 719
  2874. 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,200
  2875. But with a Rickenbacker it might not go,
  2876.  
  2877. 720
  2878. 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200
  2879. because that is massive, right?
  2880.  
  2881. 721
  2882. 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200
  2883. Yes, that's right. You would always hear it
  2884.  
  2885. 722
  2886. 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
  2887. a little bit if you put it on a scale
  2888.  
  2889. 723
  2890. 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
  2891. and you play one, you can hear it well.
  2892.  
  2893. 724
  2894. 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200
  2895. Bassists always have bigger amplifiers
  2896.  
  2897. 725
  2898. 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200
  2899. to move the air and the counter bass
  2900.  
  2901. 726
  2902. 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200
  2903. is a bit bigger than a violin.
  2904.  
  2905. 727
  2906. 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
  2907. And it's just too small
  2908.  
  2909. 728
  2910. 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,200
  2911. to fit perfectly at home.
  2912.  
  2913. 729
  2914. 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
  2915. You sit on the bench, you take your
  2916.  
  2917. 730
  2918. 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,200
  2919. bass, you hear that dry, short, nice, round note.
  2920.  
  2921. 731
  2922. 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200
  2923. But if you play with a different instrument,
  2924.  
  2925. 732
  2926. 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200
  2927. you are really too soft.
  2928.  
  2929. 733
  2930. 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,200
  2931. And then those elements, so you
  2932.  
  2933. 734
  2934. 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,200
  2935. can distinguish the first and second bass
  2936.  
  2937. 735
  2938. 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
  2939. of Paul McCartney well from each other.
  2940.  
  2941. 736
  2942. 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200
  2943. Because that old one has those elements
  2944.  
  2945. 737
  2946. 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,200
  2947. that you put on those big gray
  2948.  
  2949. 738
  2950. 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,200
  2951. corners, that you put on the
  2952.  
  2953. 739
  2954. 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
  2955. old bass, on the first bass,
  2956.  
  2957. 740
  2958. 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,200
  2959. close to each other and on the second bass
  2960.  
  2961. 741
  2962. 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200
  2963. further apart. That's why they are
  2964.  
  2965. 742
  2966. 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200
  2967. indeed very good at distinguishing each other.
  2968.  
  2969. 743
  2970. 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
  2971. What is the difference in sound, actually?
  2972.  
  2973. 744
  2974. 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
  2975. Because then you put something closer
  2976.  
  2977. 745
  2978. 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,200
  2979. to the hall, to that very old bass,
  2980.  
  2981. 746
  2982. 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200
  2983. instead of in the second where
  2984.  
  2985. 747
  2986. 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,200
  2987. those elements are further apart.
  2988.  
  2989. 748
  2990. 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200
  2991. Yes, that's right. We have
  2992.  
  2993. 749
  2994. 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200
  2995. delivered a lot of basses with the
  2996.  
  2997. 750
  2998. 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200
  2999. elements close to each other. And on a day
  3000.  
  3001. 751
  3002. 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,200
  3003. with all those elements, the elements are
  3004.  
  3005. 752
  3006. 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,200
  3007. closer to each other. And I think
  3008.  
  3009. 753
  3010. 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
  3011. that has something to do with
  3012.  
  3013. 754
  3014. 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200
  3015. competition. Many brands place the
  3016.  
  3017. 755
  3018. 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200
  3019. elements further apart. So I think
  3020.  
  3021. 756
  3022. 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,200
  3023. this has been a choice to be able to
  3024.  
  3025. 757
  3026. 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200
  3027. measure with other manufacturers.
  3028.  
  3029. 758
  3030. 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
  3031. What I notice very much
  3032.  
  3033. 759
  3034. 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200
  3035. with the Huffner is that the hall element,
  3036.  
  3037. 760
  3038. 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
  3039. the element that is close to the hall,
  3040.  
  3041. 761
  3042. 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200
  3043. sounds very nice, warm, very nice, full.
  3044.  
  3045. 762
  3046. 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
  3047. That is also the one that all artists
  3048.  
  3049. 763
  3050. 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,200
  3051. use, Paul McCartney also. And that
  3052.  
  3053. 764
  3054. 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,200
  3055. is so close to the bridge that
  3056.  
  3057. 765
  3058. 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,200
  3059. I actually find it unusable.
  3060.  
  3061. 766
  3062. 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
  3063. And as a bass player you want to have
  3064.  
  3065. 767
  3066. 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
  3067. that round layer. I
  3068.  
  3069. 768
  3070. 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
  3071. myself have an exemplary element
  3072.  
  3073. 769
  3074. 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200
  3075. from each other and with the elements
  3076.  
  3077. 770
  3078. 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200
  3079. that are closer to each other. I have
  3080.  
  3081. 771
  3082. 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200
  3083. a preference for the elements closer to each other.
  3084.  
  3085. 772
  3086. 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,200
  3087. So actually as Paul's first bass.
  3088.  
  3089. 773
  3090. 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200
  3091. Because there is a nice place to put your thumb
  3092.  
  3093. 774
  3094. 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200
  3095. on, that you have a thumb stone. But this
  3096.  
  3097. 775
  3098. 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,200
  3099. element also has a little more middle. So instead
  3100.  
  3101. 776
  3102. 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200
  3103. of having a very warm element and
  3104.  
  3105. 777
  3106. 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200
  3107. unusable, that is too much, you now have
  3108.  
  3109. 778
  3110. 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200
  3111. a very warm one and give it a little more
  3112.  
  3113. 779
  3114. 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,200
  3115. middle tones that are really between
  3116.  
  3117. 780
  3118. 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,200
  3119. the two elements. So if I play music
  3120.  
  3121. 781
  3122. 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,200
  3123. and I take that bass with me, then
  3124.  
  3125. 782
  3126. 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,200
  3127. I can have an incredibly full
  3128.  
  3129. 783
  3130. 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,200
  3131. warm sound with both elements on
  3132.  
  3133. 784
  3134. 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,200
  3135. or only the hall element. And with that
  3136.  
  3137. 785
  3138. 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,200
  3139. middle element I have to have a line that
  3140.  
  3141. 786
  3142. 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200
  3143. is placed in the middle of the body. Yes,
  3144.  
  3145. 787
  3146. 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,200
  3147. then you can use something, yes, modern
  3148.  
  3149. 788
  3150. 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,200
  3151. is perhaps not the right word, maybe I
  3152.  
  3153. 789
  3154. 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,200
  3155. have to say less old-fashioned, but a
  3156.  
  3157. 790
  3158. 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,200
  3159. less artistic, less somber tone
  3160.  
  3161. 791
  3162. 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,200
  3163. to get. So I find it a bit more usable.
  3164.  
  3165. 792
  3166. 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,200
  3167. So you can use it in some more modern
  3168.  
  3169. 793
  3170. 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200
  3171. music. Now I have to say that there are
  3172.  
  3173. 794
  3174. 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,200
  3175. a lot of bands that have been
  3176.  
  3177. 795
  3178. 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,200
  3179. picked up by this instrument.
  3180.  
  3181. 796
  3182. 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
  3183. Think of Dale Davis from
  3184.  
  3185. 797
  3186. 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200
  3187. Amy Winehouse, T. Mimpala.
  3188.  
  3189. 798
  3190. 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
  3191. A lot of artists take it up.
  3192.  
  3193. 799
  3194. 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200
  3195. Harry Styles, of course, one of the
  3196.  
  3197. 800
  3198. 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200
  3199. biggest modern musicians.
  3200.  
  3201. 801
  3202. 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200
  3203. His previous bassist plays all
  3204.  
  3205. 802
  3206. 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,200
  3207. of his basses. But short
  3208.  
  3209. 803
  3210. 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,200
  3211. with that closed spacing, the
  3212.  
  3213. 804
  3214. 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200
  3215. cavern spacing is also called. I think
  3216.  
  3217. 805
  3218. 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,200
  3219. you have a bit more versatility.
  3220.  
  3221. 806
  3222. 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,200
  3223. Are there also differences in
  3224.  
  3225. 807
  3226. 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
  3227. strings? Certainly, yes.
  3228.  
  3229. 808
  3230. 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
  3231. And what does the Paul McCartney use?
  3232.  
  3233. 809
  3234. 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,200
  3235. And what is the difference?
  3236.  
  3237. 810
  3238. 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,200
  3239. Can you say something about it? Yes,
  3240.  
  3241. 811
  3242. 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,200
  3243. in the sixties you actually had
  3244.  
  3245. 812
  3246. 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200
  3247. said one kind of bass string.
  3248.  
  3249. 813
  3250. 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,200
  3251. We call that the flat wound.
  3252.  
  3253. 814
  3254. 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200
  3255. And in the Netherlands it is also called the
  3256.  
  3257. 815
  3258. 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
  3259. slip string. And that is a
  3260.  
  3261. 816
  3262. 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200
  3263. completely smooth string. So you have to
  3264.  
  3265. 817
  3266. 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,200
  3267. think of having a
  3268.  
  3269. 818
  3270. 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,200
  3271. string wire. And there you actually
  3272.  
  3273. 819
  3274. 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200
  3275. have a kind of flat lint that you
  3276.  
  3277. 820
  3278. 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200
  3279. turn around, which makes the string
  3280.  
  3281. 821
  3282. 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
  3283. completely smooth. If you just feel
  3284.  
  3285. 822
  3286. 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,200
  3287. it. And they have as
  3288.  
  3289. 823
  3290. 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,200
  3291. sound that they are very warm, very dark.
  3292.  
  3293. 824
  3294. 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
  3295. No additional sounds for recordings,
  3296.  
  3297. 825
  3298. 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200
  3299. very nice, but it is a very warm
  3300.  
  3301. 826
  3302. 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200
  3303. dark sound. We had a few more
  3304.  
  3305. 827
  3306. 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,200
  3307. years, a little bit. That's called the Who.
  3308.  
  3309. 828
  3310. 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,200
  3311. And there is one John and Whistle in there.
  3312.  
  3313. 829
  3314. 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,200
  3315. And he bought an electric bass.
  3316.  
  3317. 830
  3318. 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200
  3319. And that was the only brand in the world
  3320.  
  3321. 831
  3322. 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200
  3323. that used a round wound string on their bass.
  3324.  
  3325. 832
  3326. 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
  3327. And then it is actually a round
  3328.  
  3329. 833
  3330. 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,200
  3331. wire that is wrapped around a wire.
  3332.  
  3333. 834
  3334. 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,200
  3335. And if you then go over that wire
  3336.  
  3337. 835
  3338. 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
  3339. with your fingers, then it is
  3340.  
  3341. 836
  3342. 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
  3343. a round winding. But by
  3344.  
  3345. 837
  3346. 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200
  3347. continuously feeling a wave,
  3348.  
  3349. 838
  3350. 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200
  3351. they call it a round wound string.
  3352.  
  3353. 839
  3354. 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200
  3355. And that string is much more flexible.
  3356.  
  3357. 840
  3358. 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
  3359. And well, if you know the Who,
  3360.  
  3361. 841
  3362. 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200
  3363. if you know John and Whistle, they
  3364.  
  3365. 842
  3366. 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,200
  3367. went everywhere. And during this time
  3368.  
  3369. 843
  3370. 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
  3371. they have the Rota sound strings.
  3372.  
  3373. 844
  3374. 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200
  3375. Rota sound strings.
  3376.  
  3377. 845
  3378. 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,200
  3379. Yes, that is a jingle.
  3380.  
  3381. 846
  3382. 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200
  3383. Tyreband Together, Song the Who.
  3384.  
  3385. 847
  3386. 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200
  3387. They have developed a round wound.
  3388.  
  3389. 848
  3390. 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,200
  3391. But only in the 70s
  3392.  
  3393. 849
  3394. 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200
  3395. that actually became a bit
  3396.  
  3397. 850
  3398. 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,200
  3399. the snar. And that has been
  3400.  
  3401. 851
  3402. 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,200
  3403. the standard for years in rock bands.
  3404.  
  3405. 852
  3406. 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,200
  3407. So until the very end of the 70s
  3408.  
  3409. 853
  3410. 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200
  3411. at that dark, warm flatwound
  3412.  
  3413. 854
  3414. 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
  3415. Jamerson at
  3416.  
  3417. 855
  3418. 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200
  3419. Motown, for example. And after that
  3420.  
  3421. 856
  3422. 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,200
  3423. came that remote sound.
  3424.  
  3425. 857
  3426. 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,200
  3427. And actually only in the last years
  3428.  
  3429. 858
  3430. 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,200
  3431. is the short scale bass and
  3432.  
  3433. 859
  3434. 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,200
  3435. the flatwound string is completely back.
  3436.  
  3437. 860
  3438. 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200
  3439. So the section sound is completely back.
  3440.  
  3441. 861
  3442. 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,200
  3443. That band is a lot of known bands.
  3444.  
  3445. 862
  3446. 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
  3447. You hear a bit of the 60s sound again.
  3448.  
  3449. 863
  3450. 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
  3451. I think maybe that Amy Winehouse,
  3452.  
  3453. 864
  3454. 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,200
  3455. that kind of bands were a bit
  3456.  
  3457. 865
  3458. 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200
  3459. full open.
  3460.  
  3461. 866
  3462. 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200
  3463. So that really is the Pomba Cartney sound.
  3464.  
  3465. 867
  3466. 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
  3467. So yes, Pomba Cartney has always played
  3468.  
  3469. 868
  3470. 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
  3471. on that flatwound, the darker sound.
  3472.  
  3473. 869
  3474. 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200
  3475. That's what he's still doing.
  3476.  
  3477. 870
  3478. 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,200
  3479. There is still a tussle model and that is
  3480.  
  3481. 871
  3482. 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,200
  3483. a metal snar with a very thin layer
  3484.  
  3485. 872
  3486. 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,200
  3487. made of nylon.
  3488.  
  3489. 873
  3490. 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200
  3491. Once the bass was really a
  3492.  
  3493. 874
  3494. 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
  3495. replacement of the contrabass.
  3496.  
  3497. 875
  3498. 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
  3499. The bass is also very warm,
  3500.  
  3501. 876
  3502. 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,200
  3503. dark, dry. So at Fender
  3504.  
  3505. 877
  3506. 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,200
  3507. you saw that there were all
  3508.  
  3509. 878
  3510. 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
  3511. big layers over the bridge and there was a
  3512.  
  3513. 879
  3514. 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,200
  3515. bit of foam underneath. At Rickenbacker
  3516.  
  3517. 880
  3518. 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
  3519. you could play a piece of foam with a
  3520.  
  3521. 881
  3522. 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,200
  3523. rotary button. At Gretsch you could
  3524.  
  3525. 882
  3526. 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200
  3527. play a piece of foam with a switch
  3528.  
  3529. 883
  3530. 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,200
  3531. and press the foam against the snar
  3532.  
  3533. 884
  3534. 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,200
  3535. to keep that sound as short as possible.
  3536.  
  3537. 885
  3538. 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200
  3539. So they really wanted to make that very short
  3540.  
  3541. 886
  3542. 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,200
  3543. contrabass sound. And the bass,
  3544.  
  3545. 887
  3546. 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,200
  3547. by people like Entwistle, they have
  3548.  
  3549. 888
  3550. 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200
  3551. emancipated the bass.
  3552.  
  3553. 889
  3554. 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200
  3555. But also the snar with that
  3556.  
  3557. 890
  3558. 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200
  3559. nylon layer was also meant to
  3560.  
  3561. 891
  3562. 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200
  3563. have a more dry sound.
  3564.  
  3565. 892
  3566. 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200
  3567. And if you look at the Rooftop
  3568.  
  3569. 893
  3570. 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,200
  3571. Concert, Pomba Cartney also plays
  3572.  
  3573. 894
  3574. 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
  3575. with black snars.
  3576.  
  3577. 895
  3578. 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200
  3579. So those are not snars with
  3580.  
  3581. 896
  3582. 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200
  3583. such a layer of nylon underneath.
  3584.  
  3585. 897
  3586. 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200
  3587. Those are rotary sounds.
  3588.  
  3589. 898
  3590. 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,200
  3591. And they are also more friendly for the fingers.
  3592.  
  3593. 899
  3594. 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
  3595. I heard from Entwistle that
  3596.  
  3597. 900
  3598. 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200
  3599. his fingers were in a kind of
  3600.  
  3601. 901
  3602. 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
  3603. layer of foam because it was so painful
  3604.  
  3605. 902
  3606. 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
  3607. and you wanted to have this kind of
  3608.  
  3609. 903
  3610. 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,200
  3611. sound. Or does it not matter?
  3612.  
  3613. 904
  3614. 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,200
  3615. Yes, flatwounds are
  3616.  
  3617. 905
  3618. 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200
  3619. much softer. But I
  3620.  
  3621. 906
  3622. 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200
  3623. often find them a bit more sticky
  3624.  
  3625. 907
  3626. 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200
  3627. because you have a bit more contact with the snars.
  3628.  
  3629. 908
  3630. 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,200
  3631. Roundwounds are a bit rougher,
  3632.  
  3633. 909
  3634. 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
  3635. but because they are rougher, I think
  3636.  
  3637. 910
  3638. 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
  3639. they are a bit easier to glue because you
  3640.  
  3641. 911
  3642. 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200
  3643. have less contact with them.
  3644.  
  3645. 912
  3646. 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,200
  3647. I tried the Rotosound
  3648.  
  3649. 913
  3650. 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200
  3651. versions, so Pomba Cartney
  3652.  
  3653. 914
  3654. 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200
  3655. uses them. And they are a bit rubbery
  3656.  
  3657. 915
  3658. 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200
  3659. and I find them a bit sticky.
  3660.  
  3661. 916
  3662. 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,200
  3663. And Pyramid, that is the
  3664.  
  3665. 917
  3666. 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
  3667. one that Pomba Cartney uses.
  3668.  
  3669. 918
  3670. 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
  3671. They have a bit of rubbery layer of
  3672.  
  3673. 919
  3674. 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200
  3675. fabric that feels a bit finer for me.
  3676.  
  3677. 920
  3678. 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
  3679. I think that the glue is not so nice.
  3680.  
  3681. 921
  3682. 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
  3683. But that is also a
  3684.  
  3685. 922
  3686. 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
  3687. advantage of the player.
  3688.  
  3689. 923
  3690. 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,200
  3691. And where did he play at the Rickenbacker?
  3692.  
  3693. 924
  3694. 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,200
  3695. He always played the flatwound
  3696.  
  3697. 925
  3698. 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
  3699. snars in that level.
  3700.  
  3701. 926
  3702. 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,200
  3703. I do not remember to mention it, because
  3704.  
  3705. 927
  3706. 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200
  3707. at that time you only had flatwound snars.
  3708.  
  3709. 928
  3710. 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,200
  3711. In the end of the 1960s
  3712.  
  3713. 929
  3714. 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200
  3715. with the Roundwounds
  3716.  
  3717. 930
  3718. 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,200
  3719. and that lasted a while
  3720.  
  3721. 931
  3722. 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,200
  3723. until it got mixed up.
  3724.  
  3725. 932
  3726. 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,200
  3727. Well, we have half an hour,
  3728.  
  3729. 933
  3730. 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
  3731. half an hour walking around Lullen
  3732.  
  3733. 934
  3734. 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,200
  3735. over the Huffner.
  3736.  
  3737. 935
  3738. 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200
  3739. But where we
  3740.  
  3741. 936
  3742. 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,200
  3743. contacted you for the first time
  3744.  
  3745. 937
  3746. 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200
  3747. was that story about the missing Bas.
  3748.  
  3749. 938
  3750. 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
  3751. Because the very first Bas of Pomba Cartney
  3752.  
  3753. 939
  3754. 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,200
  3755. disappeared at some point.
  3756.  
  3757. 940
  3758. 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200
  3759. Oh yes, you would almost forget that.
  3760.  
  3761. 941
  3762. 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,200
  3763. Yes, you would almost forget that.
  3764.  
  3765. 942
  3766. 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
  3767. He died again, luckily.
  3768.  
  3769. 943
  3770. 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200
  3771. And we wanted to hear from you
  3772.  
  3773. 944
  3774. 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200
  3775. how that all happened.
  3776.  
  3777. 945
  3778. 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200
  3779. So our information before this came out
  3780.  
  3781. 946
  3782. 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,200
  3783. we always thought
  3784.  
  3785. 947
  3786. 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
  3787. he was stolen during the getback session.
  3788.  
  3789. 948
  3790. 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,200
  3791. Because there he has again, we see that on the screen,
  3792.  
  3793. 949
  3794. 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,200
  3795. he took it from Stahl
  3796.  
  3797. 950
  3798. 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200
  3799. and then with a different
  3800.  
  3801. 951
  3802. 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,200
  3803. Sunburst, he spits on it.
  3804.  
  3805. 952
  3806. 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,200
  3807. He looks different than
  3808.  
  3809. 953
  3810. 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,200
  3811. in the beginning of the Beatles.
  3812.  
  3813. 954
  3814. 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
  3815. So he thought, he still has a Bas,
  3816.  
  3817. 955
  3818. 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200
  3819. but he just spilled it over.
  3820.  
  3821. 956
  3822. 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,200
  3823. So we always thought he was stolen there.
  3824.  
  3825. 957
  3826. 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200
  3827. Because afterwards you no longer smoke
  3828.  
  3829. 958
  3830. 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,200
  3831. but that does not seem to be the case.
  3832.  
  3833. 959
  3834. 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,200
  3835. He seems to have been stolen in 1972.
  3836.  
  3837. 960
  3838. 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,200
  3839. At the end of the story
  3840.  
  3841. 961
  3842. 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,200
  3843. I would like to hear from you about
  3844.  
  3845. 962
  3846. 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200
  3847. how this happened.
  3848.  
  3849. 963
  3850. 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,200
  3851. Yes, of course you can
  3852.  
  3853. 964
  3854. 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,200
  3855. see a lot more from Benz on social media
  3856.  
  3857. 965
  3858. 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,200
  3859. but indeed everyone thought
  3860.  
  3861. 966
  3862. 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200
  3863. yes, we have seen that Bas for the last time
  3864.  
  3865. 967
  3866. 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,200
  3867. in 1969.
  3868.  
  3869. 968
  3870. 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200
  3871. In that time, I think there were a few instruments stolen
  3872.  
  3873. 969
  3874. 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
  3875. from the Apple Building, which was true.
  3876.  
  3877. 970
  3878. 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,200
  3879. And people actually went from
  3880.  
  3881. 971
  3882. 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,200
  3883. when Bas was stolen.
  3884.  
  3885. 972
  3886. 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200
  3887. When Nick was, my good friend Nick was
  3888.  
  3889. 973
  3890. 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,200
  3891. of course started to find Bas back.
  3892.  
  3893. 974
  3894. 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
  3895. Then they actually came after
  3896.  
  3897. 975
  3898. 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,200
  3899. that Bas was already stolen in Bas in 1972.
  3900.  
  3901. 976
  3902. 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,200
  3903. It even stood in the newspaper.
  3904.  
  3905. 977
  3906. 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
  3907. It even stood in America in the newspaper.
  3908.  
  3909. 978
  3910. 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,200
  3911. Small reports, but it was included.
  3912.  
  3913. 979
  3914. 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,200
  3915. We could have known it.
  3916.  
  3917. 980
  3918. 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200
  3919. We could have known it.
  3920.  
  3921. 981
  3922. 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,200
  3923. It was well known.
  3924.  
  3925. 982
  3926. 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
  3927. Paul McCartney Badele of it.
  3928.  
  3929. 983
  3930. 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,200
  3931. He also put that piece in the newspaper.
  3932.  
  3933. 984
  3934. 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200
  3935. I'm looking for my Bas back.
  3936.  
  3937. 985
  3938. 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200
  3939. But I think it was not that important in that time.
  3940.  
  3941. 986
  3942. 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,200
  3943. In 1972, where the Beatles were just two years apart,
  3944.  
  3945. 987
  3946. 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,200
  3947. and then that Bas wasn't that important yet.
  3948.  
  3949. 988
  3950. 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,200
  3951. Yes, it was the best band in the world
  3952.  
  3953. 989
  3954. 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,200
  3955. that was out of each other.
  3956.  
  3957. 990
  3958. 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
  3959. Paul McCartney is perhaps already a little forgotten
  3960.  
  3961. 991
  3962. 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,200
  3963. or hasn't said it yet.
  3964.  
  3965. 992
  3966. 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200
  3967. Yes, now Bas, the last 30 years
  3968.  
  3969. 993
  3970. 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,200
  3971. when the Beatles have taken his son's flight
  3972.  
  3973. 994
  3974. 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,200
  3975. it has become known to Bas.
  3976.  
  3977. 995
  3978. 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,200
  3979. So in the end they are the eight to come
  3980.  
  3981. 996
  3982. 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200
  3983. that Bas is stolen in 1972.
  3984.  
  3985. 997
  3986. 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200
  3987. And that's why there are also a lot of things
  3988.  
  3989. 998
  3990. 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200
  3991. that can be done on the track.
  3992.  
  3993. 999
  3994. 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
  3995. Did it come from McCartney?
  3996.  
  3997. 1000
  3998. 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
  3999. Did he actually want to, he asked
  4000.  
  4001. 1001
  4002. 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,200
  4003. to let us do this.
  4004.  
  4005. 1002
  4006. 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
  4007. Yes, that's exactly what it was.
  4008.  
  4009. 1003
  4010. 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,200
  4011. I have been working for Bas for years.
  4012.  
  4013. 1004
  4014. 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200
  4015. I have been in contact with Nick Was.
  4016.  
  4017. 1005
  4018. 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,200
  4019. He is an English speaker.
  4020.  
  4021. 1006
  4022. 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,200
  4023. He is working at Huffner.
  4024.  
  4025. 1007
  4026. 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,200
  4027. As a marketing manager and his wife as social media manager.
  4028.  
  4029. 1008
  4030. 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,200
  4031. Those are good friends of mine
  4032.  
  4033. 1009
  4034. 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,200
  4035. who are also going to come to the Netherlands
  4036.  
  4037. 1010
  4038. 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,200
  4039. to eat together etc.
  4040.  
  4041. 1011
  4042. 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,200
  4043. Nick Was is actually the contact person
  4044.  
  4045. 1012
  4046. 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200
  4047. with Huffner with Paul McCartney.
  4048.  
  4049. 1013
  4050. 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,200
  4051. He came to the studio with Paul McCartney.
  4052.  
  4053. 1014
  4054. 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,200
  4055. He actually never told about it.
  4056.  
  4057. 1015
  4058. 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
  4059. He really doesn't tell much about it.
  4060.  
  4061. 1016
  4062. 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,200
  4063. He really comes into contact as a business
  4064.  
  4065. 1017
  4066. 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,200
  4067. and not as a fan.
  4068.  
  4069. 1018
  4070. 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,200
  4071. He wants to keep business as much as possible.
  4072.  
  4073. 1019
  4074. 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200
  4075. He also provides spare parts
  4076.  
  4077. 1020
  4078. 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,200
  4079. to the body of Paul McCartney
  4080.  
  4081. 1021
  4082. 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,200
  4083. so that they can replace what is broken.
  4084.  
  4085. 1022
  4086. 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,200
  4087. They have built a number of buses for Paul McCartney.
  4088.  
  4089. 1023
  4090. 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,200
  4091. Think of the Union Jack bus that he used
  4092.  
  4093. 1024
  4094. 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,200
  4095. with the English flag on it.
  4096.  
  4097. 1025
  4098. 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,200
  4099. They also made a replica
  4100.  
  4101. 1026
  4102. 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,200
  4103. of the lost bus.
  4104.  
  4105. 1027
  4106. 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200
  4107. As he was.
  4108.  
  4109. 1028
  4110. 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,200
  4111. And they made a replica as good as possible
  4112.  
  4113. 1029
  4114. 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,200
  4115. because he was overplayed.
  4116.  
  4117. 1030
  4118. 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,200
  4119. So they regularly delivered buses to Paul McCartney.
  4120.  
  4121. 1031
  4122. 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,200
  4123. That's what we did at some point.
  4124.  
  4125. 1032
  4126. 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200
  4127. Because we saw him in the clip of Now and Then
  4128.  
  4129. 1033
  4130. 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,200
  4131. we saw Paul play in the studio.
  4132.  
  4133. 1034
  4134. 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,200
  4135. He said, hey, there's a bus.
  4136.  
  4137. 1035
  4138. 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200
  4139. He had it long ago.
  4140.  
  4141. 1036
  4142. 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,200
  4143. But that seems to have been a replica.
  4144.  
  4145. 1037
  4146. 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
  4147. Yes, that's really a replica.
  4148.  
  4149. 1038
  4150. 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,200
  4151. Because the bus that we found back
  4152.  
  4153. 1039
  4154. 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,200
  4155. was not so good at all.
  4156.  
  4157. 1040
  4158. 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,200
  4159. But that's something later.
  4160.  
  4161. 1041
  4162. 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,200
  4163. Nick Was also in the background
  4164.  
  4165. 1042
  4166. 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,200
  4167. that the 63 bus of Paul McCartney
  4168.  
  4169. 1043
  4170. 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
  4171. had been replaced.
  4172.  
  4173. 1044
  4174. 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200
  4175. So the elements are a bit different.
  4176.  
  4177. 1045
  4178. 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,200
  4179. Nick Was also bought an old bus for Paul McCartney
  4180.  
  4181. 1046
  4182. 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,200
  4183. and modified it
  4184.  
  4185. 1047
  4186. 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200
  4187. so that it sounds like a 63 bus.
  4188.  
  4189. 1048
  4190. 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,200
  4191. So he always plays on the stage on the 63 bus.
  4192.  
  4193. 1049
  4194. 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,200
  4195. But in the end he has a comparable old bus
  4196.  
  4197. 1050
  4198. 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,200
  4199. as a backup.
  4200.  
  4201. 1051
  4202. 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,200
  4203. Yes, Nick Was was there one day
  4204.  
  4205. 1052
  4206. 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,200
  4207. and he was going to deliver some parts
  4208.  
  4209. 1053
  4210. 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,200
  4211. or ordered something or repaired something.
  4212.  
  4213. 1054
  4214. 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,200
  4215. And then Paul McCartney said
  4216.  
  4217. 1055
  4218. 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200
  4219. literally, hey, you're from Huffner.
  4220.  
  4221. 1056
  4222. 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,200
  4223. Yes, then you know what the bus is.
  4224.  
  4225. 1057
  4226. 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,200
  4227. And Nick said, no.
  4228.  
  4229. 1058
  4230. 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200
  4231. But then there was a plan
  4232.  
  4233. 1059
  4234. 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
  4235. that he thought maybe we should go for it.
  4236.  
  4237. 1060
  4238. 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200
  4239. Then the idea was also thought
  4240.  
  4241. 1061
  4242. 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,200
  4243. at that moment to build those two buses for Paul.
  4244.  
  4245. 1062
  4246. 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,200
  4247. So actually a first bus
  4248.  
  4249. 1063
  4250. 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,200
  4251. as a replica of the factory
  4252.  
  4253. 1064
  4254. 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,200
  4255. and his first bus as a modified replica.
  4256.  
  4257. 1065
  4258. 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,200
  4259. And then Nick Was was going to look
  4260.  
  4261. 1066
  4262. 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
  4263. for a website built.
  4264.  
  4265. 1067
  4266. 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,200
  4267. But he is marketing manager
  4268.  
  4269. 1068
  4270. 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,200
  4271. of Huffner in Germany.
  4272.  
  4273. 1069
  4274. 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,200
  4275. So a few German clients picked it up
  4276.  
  4277. 1070
  4278. 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,200
  4279. and that was it actually.
  4280.  
  4281. 1071
  4282. 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,200
  4283. And here and there in the news.
  4284.  
  4285. 1072
  4286. 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,200
  4287. But actually not good enough to look around the world.
  4288.  
  4289. 1073
  4290. 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
  4291. Of course you want to look for
  4292.  
  4293. 1074
  4294. 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,200
  4295. people to look for or see.
  4296.  
  4297. 1075
  4298. 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,200
  4299. Then he was approached by a real couple
  4300.  
  4301. 1076
  4302. 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200
  4303. from England.
  4304.  
  4305. 1077
  4306. 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,200
  4307. And that's an old man Scott Jones.
  4308.  
  4309. 1078
  4310. 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
  4311. And they were known
  4312.  
  4313. 1079
  4314. 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,200
  4315. that there are researchers who are world-famous
  4316.  
  4317. 1080
  4318. 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,200
  4319. to find things back.
  4320.  
  4321. 1081
  4322. 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,200
  4323. They had contacts.
  4324.  
  4325. 1082
  4326. 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,200
  4327. They had access to databases.
  4328.  
  4329. 1083
  4330. 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200
  4331. And when they actually joined,
  4332.  
  4333. 1084
  4334. 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,200
  4335. when the research exploded
  4336.  
  4337. 1085
  4338. 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,200
  4339. and that is now I think about
  4340.  
  4341. 1086
  4342. 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,200
  4343. about a year ago
  4344.  
  4345. 1087
  4346. 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,200
  4347. that it really started to come up.
  4348.  
  4349. 1088
  4350. 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
  4351. The weird thing is,
  4352.  
  4353. 1089
  4354. 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,200
  4355. he was stolen a little later.
  4356.  
  4357. 1090
  4358. 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,200
  4359. But McCartney actually took off
  4360.  
  4361. 1091
  4362. 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200
  4363. from that bus as we know.
  4364.  
  4365. 1092
  4366. 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,200
  4367. He didn't play with that Huffner anymore.
  4368.  
  4369. 1093
  4370. 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,200
  4371. So how did that happen?
  4372.  
  4373. 1094
  4374. 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,200
  4375. It was a backup bus I think.
  4376.  
  4377. 1095
  4378. 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,200
  4379. Yes it was a backup.
  4380.  
  4381. 1096
  4382. 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
  4383. He was repaired.
  4384.  
  4385. 1097
  4386. 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,200
  4387. He had his new bus. This was a reserve bus.
  4388.  
  4389. 1098
  4390. 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200
  4391. And at some point he had to
  4392.  
  4393. 1099
  4394. 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
  4395. choose between the two studios
  4396.  
  4397. 1100
  4398. 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
  4399. of Paul McCartney or a studio where he took off.
  4400.  
  4401. 1101
  4402. 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,200
  4403. He loaded the same bus with a few
  4404.  
  4405. 1102
  4406. 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,200
  4407. Fox AC-30s and some instruments.
  4408.  
  4409. 1103
  4410. 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200
  4411. And he thought at 10 o'clock
  4412.  
  4413. 1104
  4414. 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,200
  4415. we're going to park tomorrow
  4416.  
  4417. 1105
  4418. 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,200
  4419. in the bus. We're going to sleep.
  4420.  
  4421. 1106
  4422. 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200
  4423. He parked the bus and the next day
  4424.  
  4425. 1107
  4426. 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,200
  4427. he was broken open.
  4428.  
  4429. 1108
  4430. 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
  4431. So he missed the bus and two stretchers.
  4432.  
  4433. 1109
  4434. 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200
  4435. And then he went to Paul McCartney
  4436.  
  4437. 1110
  4438. 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200
  4439. and said, sorry boss,
  4440.  
  4441. 1111
  4442. 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200
  4443. your bus is gone.
  4444.  
  4445. 1112
  4446. 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
  4447. And he did need the newspaper
  4448.  
  4449. 1113
  4450. 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,200
  4451. because I want my bus back.
  4452.  
  4453. 1114
  4454. 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
  4455. But the red one
  4456.  
  4457. 1115
  4458. 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
  4459. didn't work for Paul McCartney for six years.
  4460.  
  4461. 1116
  4462. 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,200
  4463. So it's not so bad that he was hit
  4464.  
  4465. 1117
  4466. 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,200
  4467. with a standing foot.
  4468.  
  4469. 1118
  4470. 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,200
  4471. So at some point the search is in the news
  4472.  
  4473. 1119
  4474. 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,200
  4475. and so we were also behind it.
  4476.  
  4477. 1120
  4478. 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,200
  4479. We also got the news.
  4480.  
  4481. 1121
  4482. 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
  4483. Then there appears to be a lead somewhere.
  4484.  
  4485. 1122
  4486. 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,200
  4487. Where does that come from?
  4488.  
  4489. 1123
  4490. 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200
  4491. Where does that report come from
  4492.  
  4493. 1124
  4494. 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,200
  4495. that maybe the bass guitar for Paul McCartney is somewhere?
  4496.  
  4497. 1125
  4498. 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200
  4499. To make a step forward,
  4500.  
  4501. 1126
  4502. 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
  4503. finally Nick Wasch didn't find the bus.
  4504.  
  4505. 1127
  4506. 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,200
  4507. But a lady did see
  4508.  
  4509. 1128
  4510. 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,200
  4511. the news on television
  4512.  
  4513. 1129
  4514. 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,200
  4515. and she thought, hey,
  4516.  
  4517. 1130
  4518. 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
  4519. I think that bass is somewhere at my house.
  4520.  
  4521. 1131
  4522. 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,200
  4523. So in direct search
  4524.  
  4525. 1132
  4526. 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,200
  4527. it was solved.
  4528.  
  4529. 1133
  4530. 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,200
  4531. Then we take a step back.
  4532.  
  4533. 1134
  4534. 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,200
  4535. Nick Wasch got a message
  4536.  
  4537. 1135
  4538. 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
  4539. and he was like, oh yeah,
  4540.  
  4541. 1136
  4542. 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,200
  4543. I lived there. The bus was in 72.
  4544.  
  4545. 1137
  4546. 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,200
  4547. There was a bus and the instruments were out.
  4548.  
  4549. 1138
  4550. 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200
  4551. And Nick Wasch
  4552.  
  4553. 1139
  4554. 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,200
  4555. didn't take it seriously because he thought
  4556.  
  4557. 1140
  4558. 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,200
  4559. the bass is 69 years old.
  4560.  
  4561. 1141
  4562. 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,200
  4563. This is a story where nothing is right.
  4564.  
  4565. 1142
  4566. 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,200
  4567. Later he got another message from someone
  4568.  
  4569. 1143
  4570. 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,200
  4571. and he actually told
  4572.  
  4573. 1144
  4574. 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200
  4575. this was a bit of a soap.
  4576.  
  4577. 1145
  4578. 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,200
  4579. He said I was an ambulance driver
  4580.  
  4581. 1146
  4582. 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,200
  4583. and I had a patient in an ambulance
  4584.  
  4585. 1147
  4586. 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,200
  4587. and he told me about the bass
  4588.  
  4589. 1148
  4590. 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,200
  4591. and that it was stolen in 72 in Notting Hill.
  4592.  
  4593. 1149
  4594. 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,200
  4595. And Nick Wasch
  4596.  
  4597. 1150
  4598. 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200
  4599. heard it and he thought,
  4600.  
  4601. 1151
  4602. 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
  4603. what is this story?
  4604.  
  4605. 1152
  4606. 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,200
  4607. And suddenly he remembered that he had
  4608.  
  4609. 1153
  4610. 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,200
  4611. a message from someone who also provided
  4612.  
  4613. 1154
  4614. 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,200
  4615. something in Notting Hill
  4616.  
  4617. 1155
  4618. 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,200
  4619. and stolen stuff.
  4620.  
  4621. 1156
  4622. 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,200
  4623. So one by one it was a bit two.
  4624.  
  4625. 1157
  4626. 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,200
  4627. So he approached some people.
  4628.  
  4629. 1158
  4630. 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200
  4631. In the end he spoke to the ambulance
  4632.  
  4633. 1159
  4634. 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
  4635. brother and he knew a lot
  4636.  
  4637. 1160
  4638. 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
  4639. about telling the bass.
  4640.  
  4641. 1161
  4642. 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
  4643. And Nick Wasch thought, wait a minute.
  4644.  
  4645. 1162
  4646. 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,200
  4647. You are an ambulance brother. You had a patient
  4648.  
  4649. 1163
  4650. 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,200
  4651. behind your ambulance.
  4652.  
  4653. 1164
  4654. 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
  4655. He told me a little about the
  4656.  
  4657. 1165
  4658. 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,200
  4659. bass that was stolen and you have an expert.
  4660.  
  4661. 1166
  4662. 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200
  4663. It's been a while now.
  4664.  
  4665. 1167
  4666. 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
  4667. It was a bit fishy.
  4668.  
  4669. 1168
  4670. 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,200
  4671. Now there are Omi and Scott Jones in the picture.
  4672.  
  4673. 1169
  4674. 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,200
  4675. They had a lot of access to
  4676.  
  4677. 1170
  4678. 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200
  4679. databases and old papers.
  4680.  
  4681. 1171
  4682. 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
  4683. They also found that the bass was stolen in 72
  4684.  
  4685. 1172
  4686. 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200
  4687. and so all those things were right.
  4688.  
  4689. 1173
  4690. 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,200
  4691. And then it turned out that
  4692.  
  4693. 1174
  4694. 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,200
  4695. in that house where the bus was
  4696.  
  4697. 1175
  4698. 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
  4699. where the bullet was stolen,
  4700.  
  4701. 1176
  4702. 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200
  4703. someone with the exact name of the
  4704.  
  4705. 1177
  4706. 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
  4707. ambulance brother lived.
  4708.  
  4709. 1178
  4710. 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,200
  4711. Then it becomes a bit strange.
  4712.  
  4713. 1179
  4714. 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,200
  4715. So Nick Wasch called again and said
  4716.  
  4717. 1180
  4718. 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,200
  4719. Sir, we are not going to call the police.
  4720.  
  4721. 1181
  4722. 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,200
  4723. It's all not serious, but you always tell this story.
  4724.  
  4725. 1182
  4726. 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,200
  4727. We know that you just live in the house.
  4728.  
  4729. 1183
  4730. 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200
  4731. Just say how it is.
  4732.  
  4733. 1184
  4734. 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
  4735. Then it turned out that the father of the man
  4736.  
  4737. 1185
  4738. 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,200
  4739. did not seem to be an honest man.
  4740.  
  4741. 1186
  4742. 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,200
  4743. He was a bit in the basement.
  4744.  
  4745. 1187
  4746. 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
  4747. His father stole the bass.
  4748.  
  4749. 1188
  4750. 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,200
  4751. He broke the bus open.
  4752.  
  4753. 1189
  4754. 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,200
  4755. So he had that stuff.
  4756.  
  4757. 1190
  4758. 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
  4759. That bass had been lying in a crib for a while.
  4760.  
  4761. 1191
  4762. 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,200
  4763. And at some point the man needed money
  4764.  
  4765. 1192
  4766. 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200
  4767. and the crib boss bought the bass.
  4768.  
  4769. 1193
  4770. 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,200
  4771. The crib boss gave the bass to his son.
  4772.  
  4773. 1194
  4774. 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,200
  4775. And that son died in a car accident
  4776.  
  4777. 1195
  4778. 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,200
  4779. in a student's time.
  4780.  
  4781. 1196
  4782. 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,200
  4783. That's quite tragic of course.
  4784.  
  4785. 1197
  4786. 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,200
  4787. He was the brother of that person.
  4788.  
  4789. 1198
  4790. 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,200
  4791. His wife,
  4792.  
  4793. 1199
  4794. 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,200
  4795. the man died in a car accident
  4796.  
  4797. 1200
  4798. 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,200
  4799. and his wife recognized the bass on television.
  4800.  
  4801. 1201
  4802. 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,200
  4803. So all those things fell a bit together.
  4804.  
  4805. 1202
  4806. 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,200
  4807. At some point she suddenly stole a 72.
  4808.  
  4809. 1203
  4810. 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,200
  4811. She knew it was nothing.
  4812.  
  4813. 1204
  4814. 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,200
  4815. When that woman saw the bass on television
  4816.  
  4817. 1205
  4818. 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,200
  4819. she was going to bring it back.
  4820.  
  4821. 1206
  4822. 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,200
  4823. And then she also learned the name of the woman.
  4824.  
  4825. 1207
  4826. 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,200
  4827. And then he did everything together.
  4828.  
  4829. 1208
  4830. 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,200
  4831. Because that woman had the name of her man.
  4832.  
  4833. 1209
  4834. 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200
  4835. She knew all those names.
  4836.  
  4837. 1210
  4838. 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,200
  4839. There were no standard names like Jones or Smith
  4840.  
  4841. 1211
  4842. 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,200
  4843. or maybe there were special names.
  4844.  
  4845. 1212
  4846. 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,200
  4847. They are now all online to be found.
  4848.  
  4849. 1213
  4850. 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200
  4851. But I promised not to go there.
  4852.  
  4853. 1214
  4854. 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,200
  4855. So she immediately knew that the woman had the name.
  4856.  
  4857. 1215
  4858. 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,200
  4859. This is also a name that we know.
  4860.  
  4861. 1216
  4862. 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,200
  4863. So this has to be true.
  4864.  
  4865. 1217
  4866. 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
  4867. Then Tom McCartney
  4868.  
  4869. 1218
  4870. 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,200
  4871. as a kind of enthusiastic school kid
  4872.  
  4873. 1219
  4874. 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,200
  4875. called Nick Was.
  4876.  
  4877. 1220
  4878. 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200
  4879. And Nick went to England
  4880.  
  4881. 1221
  4882. 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
  4883. with his wife.
  4884.  
  4885. 1222
  4886. 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,200
  4887. He looked at the bass.
  4888.  
  4889. 1223
  4890. 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,200
  4891. And that man knows so much
  4892.  
  4893. 1224
  4894. 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,200
  4895. about the voice buttons that are replaced.
  4896.  
  4897. 1225
  4898. 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,200
  4899. You can also see all kinds of things.
  4900.  
  4901. 1226
  4902. 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200
  4903. From the wooden block.
  4904.  
  4905. 1227
  4906. 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,200
  4907. From certain notes in the wood.
  4908.  
  4909. 1228
  4910. 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
  4911. From everything that he actually knew immediately.
  4912.  
  4913. 1229
  4914. 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
  4915. This is not someone's fake.
  4916.  
  4917. 1230
  4918. 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,200
  4919. This is not something rebuilt.
  4920.  
  4921. 1231
  4922. 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
  4923. This is actually the combination
  4924.  
  4925. 1232
  4926. 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,200
  4927. of the right people with the right names.
  4928.  
  4929. 1233
  4930. 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,200
  4931. And just the knowledge of Nick Was
  4932.  
  4933. 1234
  4934. 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,200
  4935. knew immediately that this is him.
  4936.  
  4937. 1235
  4938. 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,200
  4939. And Nick Was also authorized him officially.
  4940.  
  4941. 1236
  4942. 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200
  4943. And how did he react to that bass?
  4944.  
  4945. 1237
  4946. 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,200
  4947. Because you will say it's bad soon.
  4948.  
  4949. 1238
  4950. 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,200
  4951. But do you want to repair it?
  4952.  
  4953. 1239
  4954. 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,200
  4955. The bass went off at the halftime.
  4956.  
  4957. 1240
  4958. 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,200
  4959. Fjol basses were still
  4960.  
  4961. 1241
  4962. 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200
  4963. linked to Beenderleim at the time.
  4964.  
  4965. 1242
  4966. 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,200
  4967. And I have already sent back the bass
  4968.  
  4969. 1243
  4970. 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,200
  4971. to track about 80 times.
  4972.  
  4973. 1244
  4974. 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
  4975. That halftime.
  4976.  
  4977. 1245
  4978. 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,200
  4979. If you buy an old hearth,
  4980.  
  4981. 1246
  4982. 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
  4983. that halftime is very often linked to a new one.
  4984.  
  4985. 1247
  4986. 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,200
  4987. Or it says
  4988.  
  4989. 1248
  4990. 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,200
  4991. Schuyn, which is located at the top
  4992.  
  4993. 1249
  4994. 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,200
  4995. and then you have to leave it yourself
  4996.  
  4997. 1250
  4998. 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200
  4999. to let it glue in.
  5000.  
  5001. 1251
  5002. 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,200
  5003. And here was the bass.
  5004.  
  5005. 1252
  5006. 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,200
  5007. At the body you were actually
  5008.  
  5009. 1253
  5010. 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,200
  5011. largely loose.
  5012.  
  5013. 1254
  5014. 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,200
  5015. But that is overcome.
  5016.  
  5017. 1255
  5018. 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
  5019. So the question of removing, removing, gluing.
  5020.  
  5021. 1256
  5022. 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,200
  5023. That is for a good guitar builder.
  5024.  
  5025. 1257
  5026. 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,200
  5027. Is that really a peanut?
  5028.  
  5029. 1258
  5030. 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,200
  5031. Yes, that is a peanut.
  5032.  
  5033. 1259
  5034. 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
  5035. I think that one of the two elements
  5036.  
  5037. 1260
  5038. 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,200
  5039. did not work anymore.
  5040.  
  5041. 1261
  5042. 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200
  5043. That can be loosened, that can be rewound.
  5044.  
  5045. 1262
  5046. 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200
  5047. Those are actually all
  5048.  
  5049. 1263
  5050. 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200
  5051. things.
  5052.  
  5053. 1264
  5054. 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,200
  5055. So what I have understood now is that
  5056.  
  5057. 1265
  5058. 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,200
  5059. at this point it is really unplayable.
  5060.  
  5061. 1266
  5062. 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200
  5063. If you put the nut on and you turn it on,
  5064.  
  5065. 1267
  5066. 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,200
  5067. then the halftime just falls off.
  5068.  
  5069. 1268
  5070. 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,200
  5071. It is still stuck, but it would just fall off.
  5072.  
  5073. 1269
  5074. 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,200
  5075. So a builder has to look at it for a moment.
  5076.  
  5077. 1270
  5078. 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
  5079. He just has to take it off carefully.
  5080.  
  5081. 1271
  5082. 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,200
  5083. He has to look at it again, in the right corner.
  5084.  
  5085. 1272
  5086. 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,200
  5087. So it is for a good guitar builder.
  5088.  
  5089. 1273
  5090. 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,200
  5091. It is a, I say it is a simple color,
  5092.  
  5093. 1274
  5094. 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,200
  5095. but I almost want to say it is a routine color.
  5096.  
  5097. 1275
  5098. 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,200
  5099. What I have understood from Nick
  5100.  
  5101. 1276
  5102. 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
  5103. is that Paul McCartney would not like
  5104.  
  5105. 1277
  5106. 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,200
  5107. him to be made playable
  5108.  
  5109. 1278
  5110. 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,200
  5111. as he is now.
  5112.  
  5113. 1279
  5114. 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,200
  5115. So do not remove the new lacquer.
  5116.  
  5117. 1280
  5118. 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,200
  5119. Make it not completely perfect,
  5120.  
  5121. 1281
  5122. 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
  5123. but just make it playable.
  5124.  
  5125. 1282
  5126. 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,200
  5127. So just do what you have to do.
  5128.  
  5129. 1283
  5130. 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,200
  5131. In the car world they call it a
  5132.  
  5133. 1284
  5134. 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,200
  5135. sympathetic restoration.
  5136.  
  5137. 1285
  5138. 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,200
  5139. So do not remove the lacquer
  5140.  
  5141. 1286
  5142. 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
  5143. when it has been done.
  5144.  
  5145. 1287
  5146. 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,200
  5147. No, I don't think so.
  5148.  
  5149. 1288
  5150. 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,200
  5151. Just remove some new lacquer,
  5152.  
  5153. 1289
  5154. 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,200
  5155. make it playable
  5156.  
  5157. 1290
  5158. 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,200
  5159. and put the podium on it.
  5160.  
  5161. 1291
  5162. 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,200
  5163. Yes, it has a nice gimmick
  5164.  
  5165. 1292
  5166. 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,200
  5167. for a podium indeed.
  5168.  
  5169. 1293
  5170. 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,200
  5171. Sell a new record,
  5172.  
  5173. 1294
  5174. 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,200
  5175. because it will probably be used here.
  5176.  
  5177. 1295
  5178. 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,200
  5179. And Nick of course hopes that he can do it
  5180.  
  5181. 1296
  5182. 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,200
  5183. with Huffner.
  5184.  
  5185. 1297
  5186. 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,200
  5187. And he said, if I can do it,
  5188.  
  5189. 1298
  5190. 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,200
  5191. then there will be a part 2 of your article.
  5192.  
  5193. 1299
  5194. 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,200
  5195. Then we are going to make nice pictures of the process.
  5196.  
  5197. 1300
  5198. 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,200
  5199. Because as far as you know,
  5200.  
  5201. 1301
  5202. 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,200
  5203. it is not yet in repair,
  5204.  
  5205. 1302
  5206. 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,200
  5207. so it has to be determined.
  5208.  
  5209. 1303
  5210. 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,200
  5211. Yes, that's right. As far as I know,
  5212.  
  5213. 1304
  5214. 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,200
  5215. that's my latest news.
  5216.  
  5217. 1305
  5218. 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,200
  5219. Well, I think Nick is going to do it.
  5220.  
  5221. 1306
  5222. 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
  5223. If he is already so impressed with
  5224.  
  5225. 1307
  5226. 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,200
  5227. McCartney Camp
  5228.  
  5229. 1308
  5230. 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,200
  5231. and has so much understanding of it.
  5232.  
  5233. 1309
  5234. 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,200
  5235. There is certainly a chance.
  5236.  
  5237. 1310
  5238. 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,200
  5239. What a nice story,
  5240.  
  5241. 1311
  5242. 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,200
  5243. you can almost make a kind of mini movie
  5244.  
  5245. 1312
  5246. 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200
  5247. or something like that.
  5248.  
  5249. 1313
  5250. 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,200
  5251. A podcast.
  5252.  
  5253. 1314
  5254. 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,200
  5255. That woman
  5256.  
  5257. 1315
  5258. 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,200
  5259. who has brought him back
  5260.  
  5261. 1316
  5262. 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,200
  5263. has already received money.
  5264.  
  5265. 1317
  5266. 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
  5267. Did we know anything about that?
  5268.  
  5269. 1318
  5270. 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,200
  5271. I know something about that.
  5272.  
  5273. 1319
  5274. 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
  5275. I also know some background stories
  5276.  
  5277. 1320
  5278. 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,200
  5279. and that is also a bit with legal issues.
  5280.  
  5281. 1321
  5282. 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,200
  5283. I can't really say anything about that.
  5284.  
  5285. 1322
  5286. 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,200
  5287. I know that she
  5288.  
  5289. 1323
  5290. 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,200
  5291. had a nice contract.
  5292.  
  5293. 1324
  5294. 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,200
  5295. And I think that PommerCart
  5296.  
  5297. 1325
  5298. 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200
  5299. has been looking at that for the last time.
  5300.  
  5301. 1326
  5302. 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,200
  5303. And a nice contract with PommerCart
  5304.  
  5305. 1327
  5306. 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,200
  5307. is not 100 euros,
  5308.  
  5309. 1328
  5310. 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,200
  5311. but it has really been a nice finding.
  5312.  
  5313. 1329
  5314. 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
  5315. Yes, there was no payment
  5316.  
  5317. 1330
  5318. 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
  5319. or anything like that.
  5320.  
  5321. 1331
  5322. 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,200
  5323. No, there was no contract.
  5324.  
  5325. 1332
  5326. 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,200
  5327. We wanted the bass back,
  5328.  
  5329. 1333
  5330. 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,200
  5331. no petition, that was a deal anyway.
  5332.  
  5333. 1334
  5334. 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,200
  5335. We are not going to make any business of it.
  5336.  
  5337. 1335
  5338. 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
  5339. But there was no contract.
  5340.  
  5341. 1336
  5342. 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
  5343. I think it has become not bad.
  5344.  
  5345. 1337
  5346. 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,200
  5347. But I know a few things about that
  5348.  
  5349. 1338
  5350. 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,200
  5351. that I won't tell you.
  5352.  
  5353. 1339
  5354. 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,200
  5355. What I like to tell you
  5356.  
  5357. 1340
  5358. 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
  5359. is that a few years ago
  5360.  
  5361. 1341
  5362. 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,200
  5363. a book came out about PommerCartney.
  5364.  
  5365. 1342
  5366. 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,200
  5367. I think it was about the 70s.
  5368.  
  5369. 1343
  5370. 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,200
  5371. A time of
  5372.  
  5373. 1344
  5374. 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
  5375. I don't know if it was
  5376.  
  5377. 1345
  5378. 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,200
  5379. the book about PommerCartney.
  5380.  
  5381. 1346
  5382. 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,200
  5383. And there was a whole story behind it.
  5384.  
  5385. 1347
  5386. 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,200
  5387. A bit of a cliffhanger in the book.
  5388.  
  5389. 1348
  5390. 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200
  5391. That she maybe knew where the bass
  5392.  
  5393. 1349
  5394. 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,200
  5395. of PommerCartney was.
  5396.  
  5397. 1350
  5398. 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,200
  5399. Because there was a man in Canada
  5400.  
  5401. 1351
  5402. 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,200
  5403. who was called The Hoarder, the collector.
  5404.  
  5405. 1352
  5406. 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,200
  5407. And he would have that bass.
  5408.  
  5409. 1353
  5410. 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,200
  5411. There were stories that there was someone in Abu Dhabi
  5412.  
  5413. 1354
  5414. 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,200
  5415. one of the rich Arab princes
  5416.  
  5417. 1355
  5418. 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
  5419. who would have the bass.
  5420.  
  5421. 1356
  5422. 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,200
  5423. There were a lot of wild stories around it.
  5424.  
  5425. 1357
  5426. 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,200
  5427. So even in the search for it
  5428.  
  5429. 1358
  5430. 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,200
  5431. the question was, are we in Arabia
  5432.  
  5433. 1359
  5434. 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,200
  5435. to see the bass?
  5436.  
  5437. 1360
  5438. 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,200
  5439. Or are we in Canada at The Hoarder?
  5440.  
  5441. 1361
  5442. 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200
  5443. Or are we in a castle in France
  5444.  
  5445. 1362
  5446. 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
  5447. at one of the rich people?
  5448.  
  5449. 1363
  5450. 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
  5451. And actually that bass
  5452.  
  5453. 1364
  5454. 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,200
  5455. was just on a solar eclipse in England.
  5456.  
  5457. 1365
  5458. 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,200
  5459. It's a very nice story
  5460.  
  5461. 1366
  5462. 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,200
  5463. but it's actually
  5464.  
  5465. 1367
  5466. 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
  5467. all those exotic stories
  5468.  
  5469. 1368
  5470. 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
  5471. that were in books for years.
  5472.  
  5473. 1369
  5474. 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,200
  5475. That wasn't true at all.
  5476.  
  5477. 1370
  5478. 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
  5479. Do you think that the bass is worth it?
  5480.  
  5481. 1371
  5482. 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,200
  5483. I think it will never be sold.
  5484.  
  5485. 1372
  5486. 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,200
  5487. Okay but imagine that it will be sold in the market.
  5488.  
  5489. 1373
  5490. 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,200
  5491. The British press
  5492.  
  5493. 1374
  5494. 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,200
  5495. has stolen 10 million pounds.
  5496.  
  5497. 1375
  5498. 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,200
  5499. I have read a few times about the 10 million bass.
  5500.  
  5501. 1376
  5502. 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,200
  5503. If you look at what was sold
  5504.  
  5505. 1377
  5506. 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,200
  5507. in the past years
  5508.  
  5509. 1378
  5510. 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,200
  5511. from Dave Grohl to Clapton
  5512.  
  5513. 1379
  5514. 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,200
  5515. to Mark Noffler
  5516.  
  5517. 1380
  5518. 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
  5519. they call it that.
  5520.  
  5521. 1381
  5522. 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
  5523. I don't think that's a good idea.
  5524.  
  5525. 1382
  5526. 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200
  5527. But of course the woman didn't get that.
  5528.  
  5529. 1383
  5530. 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
  5531. No, she didn't get that.
  5532.  
  5533. 1384
  5534. 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,200
  5535. I'm a Beatles fan.
  5536.  
  5537. 1385
  5538. 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
  5539. I have to be honest.
  5540.  
  5541. 1386
  5542. 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,200
  5543. I was always a The Kings fan.
  5544.  
  5545. 1387
  5546. 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
  5547. I was a The Who fan.
  5548.  
  5549. 1388
  5550. 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,200
  5551. I was a small phases fan.
  5552.  
  5553. 1389
  5554. 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,200
  5555. I came to The Beatles quite late
  5556.  
  5557. 1390
  5558. 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,200
  5559. because of a former friend of mine.
  5560.  
  5561. 1391
  5562. 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,200
  5563. I bought an air in The Hufferlain bass
  5564.  
  5565. 1392
  5566. 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,200
  5567. and I was late.
  5568.  
  5569. 1393
  5570. 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,200
  5571. I was going to throw up.
  5572.  
  5573. 1394
  5574. 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,200
  5575. But every interview you read
  5576.  
  5577. 1395
  5578. 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,200
  5579. from American musicians
  5580.  
  5581. 1396
  5582. 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,200
  5583. and they all say
  5584.  
  5585. 1397
  5586. 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
  5587. when we saw The Beatles at the show
  5588.  
  5589. 1398
  5590. 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,200
  5591. they made music that changed my life.
  5592.  
  5593. 1399
  5594. 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200
  5595. The Beatles have made such an impact.
  5596.  
  5597. 1400
  5598. 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200
  5599. Actually the first band
  5600.  
  5601. 1401
  5602. 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,200
  5603. who wrote their own songs
  5604.  
  5605. 1402
  5606. 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200
  5607. on their rap after all styles
  5608.  
  5609. 1403
  5610. 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,200
  5611. the Beatles are so important
  5612.  
  5613. 1404
  5614. 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
  5615. for the music world.
  5616.  
  5617. 1405
  5618. 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,200
  5619. It's almost the year 0
  5620.  
  5621. 1406
  5622. 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,200
  5623. that the Beatles started.
  5624.  
  5625. 1407
  5626. 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,200
  5627. It's almost the year 0 of pop music.
  5628.  
  5629. 1408
  5630. 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,200
  5631. You can talk about the blues
  5632.  
  5633. 1409
  5634. 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,200
  5635. and the Skiffle and everything.
  5636.  
  5637. 1410
  5638. 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,200
  5639. The Beatles are so important.
  5640.  
  5641. 1411
  5642. 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,200
  5643. The first bass that Paul McCartney bought
  5644.  
  5645. 1412
  5646. 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,200
  5647. was the first Beatles record.
  5648.  
  5649. 1413
  5650. 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
  5651. It's a kind of
  5652.  
  5653. 1414
  5654. 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,200
  5655. I don't want to take it in my mouth
  5656.  
  5657. 1415
  5658. 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,200
  5659. because I don't want to
  5660.  
  5661. 1416
  5662. 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,200
  5663. believe in people with it.
  5664.  
  5665. 1417
  5666. 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200
  5667. But it's almost like
  5668.  
  5669. 1418
  5670. 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,200
  5671. the Beatles have said they are bigger than they believe.
  5672.  
  5673. 1419
  5674. 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,200
  5675. And this is an artifact
  5676.  
  5677. 1420
  5678. 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,200
  5679. of what the Beatles believe.
  5680.  
  5681. 1421
  5682. 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,200
  5683. I don't want to say
  5684.  
  5685. 1422
  5686. 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,200
  5687. what this instrument actually means
  5688.  
  5689. 1423
  5690. 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,200
  5691. for the pop history.
  5692.  
  5693. 1424
  5694. 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,200
  5695. Everybody could be a bass.
  5696.  
  5697. 1425
  5698. 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
  5699. It could have been a band
  5700.  
  5701. 1426
  5702. 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200
  5703. but it was this one.
  5704.  
  5705. 1427
  5706. 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
  5707. But this was it.
  5708.  
  5709. 1428
  5710. 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,200
  5711. It makes it special.
  5712.  
  5713. 1429
  5714. 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,200
  5715. And it was in a bus.
  5716.  
  5717. 1430
  5718. 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,200
  5719. Exactly.
  5720.  
  5721. 1431
  5722. 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,200
  5723. They let it out in the morning.
  5724.  
  5725. 1432
  5726. 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,200
  5727. Historically it wasn't there yet.
  5728.  
  5729. 1433
  5730. 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,200
  5731. I think it's true.
  5732.  
  5733. 1434
  5734. 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,200
  5735. I think you know better.
  5736.  
  5737. 1435
  5738. 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,200
  5739. I think in the 70's
  5740.  
  5741. 1436
  5742. 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,200
  5743. and maybe even in the early 80's
  5744.  
  5745. 1437
  5746. 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,200
  5747. the Beatles were
  5748.  
  5749. 1438
  5750. 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,200
  5751. I don't want to say forgotten.
  5752.  
  5753. 1439
  5754. 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200
  5755. But it's true.
  5756.  
  5757. 1440
  5758. 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,200
  5759. It has become a hit.
  5760.  
  5761. 1441
  5762. 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,200
  5763. It's not gone anymore.
  5764.  
  5765. 1442
  5766. 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,200
  5767. The fact that the Carver is closed now
  5768.  
  5769. 1443
  5770. 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
  5771. is that the museum and the Carver Club
  5772.  
  5773. 1444
  5774. 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,200
  5775. have all come after that time.
  5776.  
  5777. 1445
  5778. 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,200
  5779. Maybe now we know
  5780.  
  5781. 1446
  5782. 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,200
  5783. how important it was
  5784.  
  5785. 1447
  5786. 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,200
  5787. but also how important the instruments were.
  5788.  
  5789. 1448
  5790. 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,200
  5791. It's a different world.
  5792.  
  5793. 1449
  5794. 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,200
  5795. This kind of stories
  5796.  
  5797. 1450
  5798. 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,200
  5799. you can't imagine
  5800.  
  5801. 1451
  5802. 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,200
  5803. if you live in 1985 or 1979
  5804.  
  5805. 1452
  5806. 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,200
  5807. or 72.
  5808.  
  5809. 1453
  5810. 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,200
  5811. It's a completely different time.
  5812.  
  5813. 1454
  5814. 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,200
  5815. Of course there was one bus
  5816.  
  5817. 1455
  5818. 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
  5819. at George's.
  5820.  
  5821. 1456
  5822. 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200
  5823. There were all kinds of guitars
  5824.  
  5825. 1457
  5826. 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,200
  5827. around.
  5828.  
  5829. 1458
  5830. 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,200
  5831. At the Ringo's and Trumstelle
  5832.  
  5833. 1459
  5834. 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,200
  5835. I don't know.
  5836.  
  5837. 1460
  5838. 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200
  5839. But that gives it a very iconic character.
  5840.  
  5841. 1461
  5842. 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,200
  5843. What I also like
  5844.  
  5845. 1462
  5846. 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,200
  5847. is that the V.L.Bus
  5848.  
  5849. 1463
  5850. 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,200
  5851. has a very specific form.
  5852.  
  5853. 1464
  5854. 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,200
  5855. It's actually different than all buses.
  5856.  
  5857. 1465
  5858. 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,200
  5859. And you can draw on it.
  5860.  
  5861. 1466
  5862. 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200
  5863. But it's almost like a sort of
  5864.  
  5865. 1467
  5866. 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,200
  5867. official logo when you go to a concert
  5868.  
  5869. 1468
  5870. 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,200
  5871. with a silhouette of something V.L.Bus
  5872.  
  5873. 1469
  5874. 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,200
  5875. when you come in.
  5876.  
  5877. 1470
  5878. 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,200
  5879. For me it also sells a chain on its website
  5880.  
  5881. 1471
  5882. 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,200
  5883. in the form of a V.L.Bus body.
  5884.  
  5885. 1472
  5886. 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,200
  5887. It's almost like the logo of a Pommelkart.
  5888.  
  5889. 1473
  5890. 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200
  5891. You can buy a toy with a Pommelkart
  5892.  
  5893. 1474
  5894. 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,200
  5895. on the bus.
  5896.  
  5897. 1475
  5898. 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,200
  5899. It's really a sort of official logo
  5900.  
  5901. 1476
  5902. 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,200
  5903. of the man.
  5904.  
  5905. 1477
  5906. 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,200
  5907. The whole Bittelstein game
  5908.  
  5909. 1478
  5910. 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,200
  5911. with T'Huffendebassen and Rikkenbakker and Fender
  5912.  
  5913. 1479
  5914. 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,200
  5915. you only saw in the studio.
  5916.  
  5917. 1480
  5918. 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,200
  5919. What you also say
  5920.  
  5921. 1481
  5922. 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
  5923. about how you deal with concerts
  5924.  
  5925. 1482
  5926. 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,200
  5927. is that at the end of the concert
  5928.  
  5929. 1483
  5930. 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,200
  5931. you keep it in one hand high.
  5932.  
  5933. 1484
  5934. 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:[01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:43.200] Via musicmedicines.nl
  5935. [01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:45.200] If you have a specific question, you can always mail it
  5936. [01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:47.200] via chris.nl
  5937. [01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:49.200] I'm always open to give more explanations
  5938. [01:04:49.200 --> 01:04:51.200] or to be less short of the corner, so...
  5939. [01:04:51.200 --> 01:04:53.200] That's nice.
  5940. [01:04:53.200 --> 01:04:55.200] Is there a
  5941. [01:04:55.200 --> 01:04:57.200] Paul McCartney bass party
  5942. [01:04:57.200 --> 01:04:59.200] from a song by The Beatles
  5943. [01:04:59.200 --> 01:05:01.200] or solo that you think, well, there it really is
  5944. [01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:03.200] best for both of them.
  5945. [01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:05.200] With a Huffner.
  5946. [01:05:05.200 --> 01:05:07.200] Oh shit, yes.
  5947. [01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:09.200] I'm going to ask something.
  5948. [01:05:09.200 --> 01:05:11.200] I believe that George Harrison wasn't so happy
  5949. [01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:13.200] that Paul McCartney played that party.
  5950. [01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:15.200] Because it's a very nice ballad.
  5951. [01:05:15.200 --> 01:05:17.200] And suddenly the owner of McCartney
  5952. [01:05:17.200 --> 01:05:19.200] hits the bass on all sides.
  5953. [01:05:19.200 --> 01:05:21.200] I think that party is so beautiful.
  5954. [01:05:21.200 --> 01:05:23.200] I also know from that party that there is a lot of discussion
  5955. [01:05:23.200 --> 01:05:25.200] about which bassist has been recorded.
  5956. [01:05:25.200 --> 01:05:27.200] And I think it's Rick and Becker.
  5957. [01:05:27.200 --> 01:05:29.200] But for now, we're going to re-enact that doubt.
  5958. [01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:31.200] Zayn and I just want to hear something.
  5959. [01:05:31.200 --> 01:05:33.200] Just ready.
  5960. [01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:35.200] One of the most beautiful bass parties ever.
  5961. [01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:37.200] It's not Paul McCartney's life in The Beatles
  5962. [01:05:37.200 --> 01:05:39.200] but also in the history of the bass.
  5963. [01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:41.200] It's certainly not played on the Huffner.
  5964. [01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:43.200] You can hear that.
  5965. [01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:45.200] Anyway, let's go with something.
  5966. [01:05:45.200 --> 01:05:47.200] Thank you, Chris.
  5967. [01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:08.200] Something in the way she moves me
  5968. [01:06:10.200 --> 01:06:13.200] I don't want to leave her now
  5969. [01:06:14.200 --> 01:06:17.200] You know I believe in how
  5970. [01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:26.200] Somewhere in her smile she knows
  5971. [01:06:26.200 --> 01:06:33.200] But I don't need no other lover
  5972. [01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:41.200] Something in her style that shows me
  5973. [01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:46.200] I don't want to leave her now
  5974. [01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:50.200] You know I believe in how
  5975. [01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:02.200] You're asking me will my love grow
  5976. [01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:09.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5977. [01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:16.200] You stick around and it may show
  5978. [01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:22.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5979. [01:07:26.200 --> 01:07:31.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5980. [01:07:32.200 --> 01:07:38.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5981. [01:07:40.200 --> 01:07:46.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5982. [01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:53.200] I don't know, I don't know
  5983. [01:07:57.200 --> 01:08:02.200] Something in the way she knows
  5984. [01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:10.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5985. [01:08:12.200 --> 01:08:17.200] Something in the things she shows me
  5986. [01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:22.200] I don't want to leave her now
  5987. [01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:25.200] You know I believe in how
  5988. [01:08:52.200 --> 01:08:56.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5989. [01:08:56.200 --> 01:09:00.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5990. [01:09:00.200 --> 01:09:04.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5991. [01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:08.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5992. [01:09:08.200 --> 01:09:12.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5993. [01:09:12.200 --> 01:09:16.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5994. [01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:20.200] And all I have to do is think of her
  5995. say Nick was.
  5996.  
  5997. 1547
  5998. 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,200
  5999. If he has nothing to do
  6000.  
  6001. 1548
  6002. 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,200
  6003. maybe we should look for the piano.
  6004.  
  6005. 1549
  6006. 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,200
  6007. Exactly.
  6008.  
  6009. 1550
  6010. 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,200
  6011. Also German.
  6012.  
  6013. 1551
  6014. 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200
  6015. But that's weird.
  6016.  
  6017. 1552
  6018. 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,200
  6019. There's an iconic piano in Get Back.
  6020.  
  6021. 1553
  6022. 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,200
  6023. There are all those nice songs
  6024.  
  6025. 1554
  6026. 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,200
  6027. Lead It Be and Long and Wining Road.
  6028.  
  6029. 1555
  6030. 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
  6031. They were played on that.
  6032.  
  6033. 1556
  6034. 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,200
  6035. And the thing just went back to the old days.
  6036.  
  6037. 1557
  6038. 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,200
  6039. How big is the chance
  6040.  
  6041. 1558
  6042. 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,200
  6043. that such a big piano, such a flute
  6044.  
  6045. 1559
  6046. 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
  6047. is still there?
  6048.  
  6049. 1560
  6050. 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,200
  6051. Yes, I think that
  6052.  
  6053. 1561
  6054. 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,200
  6055. you can see that with
  6056.  
  6057. 1562
  6058. 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,200
  6059. especially in the guitar world
  6060.  
  6061. 1563
  6062. 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,200
  6063. that there are still a lot of guitars.
  6064.  
  6065. 1564
  6066. 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
  6067. Because they have value.
  6068.  
  6069. 1565
  6070. 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,200
  6071. A flute can also be very easy to play.
  6072.  
  6073. 1566
  6074. 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,200
  6075. The question is
  6076.  
  6077. 1567
  6078. 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,200
  6079. if something is black
  6080.  
  6081. 1568
  6082. 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,200
  6083. how do you prove
  6084.  
  6085. 1569
  6086. 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,200
  6087. that it is that flute
  6088.  
  6089. 1570
  6090. 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
  6091. and that it is beautiful with the guitar
  6092.  
  6093. 1571
  6094. 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,200
  6095. because they usually have that finger print
  6096.  
  6097. 1572
  6098. 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,200
  6099. as they call it.
  6100.  
  6101. 1573
  6102. 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,200
  6103. And do they not have a piano?
  6104.  
  6105. 1574
  6106. 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,200
  6107. They are mostly painted black.
  6108.  
  6109. 1575
  6110. 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,200
  6111. But also one of the serial numbers
  6112.  
  6113. 1576
  6114. 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,200
  6115. or something like that.
  6116.  
  6117. 1577
  6118. 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,200
  6119. I think it is.
  6120.  
  6121. 1578
  6122. 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
  6123. But you should also know
  6124.  
  6125. 1579
  6126. 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,200
  6127. which serial numbers we used.
  6128.  
  6129. 1580
  6130. 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,200
  6131. I think it has a step further.
  6132.  
  6133. 1581
  6134. 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,200
  6135. It is to do.
  6136.  
  6137. 1582
  6138. 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,200
  6139. It sounds a lot more promising.
  6140.  
  6141. 1583
  6142. 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,200
  6143. No, it's fun.
  6144.  
  6145. 1584
  6146. 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,200
  6147. The fact that we still found
  6148.  
  6149. 1585
  6150. 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,200
  6151. instruments like this one,
  6152.  
  6153. 1586
  6154. 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,200
  6155. it tells you something.
  6156.  
  6157. 1587
  6158. 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,200
  6159. I have to say, I really did not expect
  6160.  
  6161. 1588
  6162. 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,200
  6163. that this bass would still be there.
  6164.  
  6165. 1589
  6166. 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,200
  6167. It has never been thrown away or burned.
  6168.  
  6169. 1590
  6170. 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,200
  6171. Or maybe it was broken and you do not recognize it anymore.
  6172.  
  6173. 1591
  6174. 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,200
  6175. I knew in October
  6176.  
  6177. 1592
  6178. 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,200
  6179. that it was found back.
  6180.  
  6181. 1593
  6182. 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,200
  6183. In September I was still on the radio
  6184.  
  6185. 1594
  6186. 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200
  6187. and I knew that it was found back.
  6188.  
  6189. 1595
  6190. 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,200
  6191. I had to keep my mouth shut for four months.
  6192.  
  6193. 1596
  6194. 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,200
  6195. I had a lot of lollipops
  6196.  
  6197. 1597
  6198. 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,200
  6199. with every post that was done about it.
  6200.  
  6201. 1598
  6202. 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,200
  6203. Also by Nick Wars.
  6204.  
  6205. 1599
  6206. 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,200
  6207. He had to put it on officially
  6208.  
  6209. 1600
  6210. 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,200
  6211. because no one knew that it was already found.
  6212.  
  6213. 1601
  6214. 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,200
  6215. With all the posts about the bass being searched
  6216.  
  6217. 1602
  6218. 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,200
  6219. I put it down. They will never find it again.
  6220.  
  6221. 1603
  6222. 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200
  6223. And while I already knew that it was found,
  6224.  
  6225. 1604
  6226. 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200
  6227. I was always a little sticky.
  6228.  
  6229. 1605
  6230. 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
  6231. There was a computer behind me
  6232.  
  6233. 1606
  6234. 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,200
  6235. and there was a person in the discussion
  6236.  
  6237. 1607
  6238. 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200
  6239. saying that maybe they will find it.
  6240.  
  6241. 1608
  6242. 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,200
  6243. While I was taking the pictures on my computer.
  6244.  
  6245. 1609
  6246. 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,200
  6247. I had to stick them in my underwear
  6248.  
  6249. 1610
  6250. 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,200
  6251. and then of course Nick was there too.
  6252.  
  6253. 1611
  6254. 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,200
  6255. But you had to keep it secret
  6256.  
  6257. 1612
  6258. 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,200
  6259. because the negotiations with the ladies were not yet finished?
  6260.  
  6261. 1613
  6262. 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,200
  6263. No, that's right.
  6264.  
  6265. 1614
  6266. 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,200
  6267. What I understood and I do not go further
  6268.  
  6269. 1615
  6270. 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,200
  6271. is that in the beginning the woman lived in
  6272.  
  6273. 1616
  6274. 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,200
  6275. and that there was still something for me
  6276.  
  6277. 1617
  6278. 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,200
  6279. that might have caused a bit of trouble
  6280.  
  6281. 1618
  6282. 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
  6283. or thought that I might have had more money.
  6284.  
  6285. 1619
  6286. 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,200
  6287. There were some things that happened.
  6288.  
  6289. 1620
  6290. 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,200
  6291. He really did not have to officially be from Pomenkark
  6292.  
  6293. 1621
  6294. 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,200
  6295. before all of that was done.
  6296.  
  6297. 1622
  6298. 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,200
  6299. Is it a yes?
  6300.  
  6301. 1623
  6302. 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,200
  6303. And is it a yes?
  6304.  
  6305. 1624
  6306. 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,200
  6307. Is it a yes?
  6308.  
  6309. 1625
  6310. 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,200
  6311. Do you give him back his will or not?
  6312.  
  6313. 1626
  6314. 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,200
  6315. What do you talk about?
  6316.  
  6317. 1627
  6318. 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
  6319. That's why Nick was authenticated for the law.
  6320.  
  6321. 1628
  6322. 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200
  6323. This is really the bass.
  6324.  
  6325. 1629
  6326. 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,200
  6327. It all takes a while before you really know what it is.
  6328.  
  6329. 1630
  6330. 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,200
  6331. He is now really from me.
  6332.  
  6333. 1631
  6334. 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,200
  6335. It can now really go into the world.
  6336.  
  6337. 1632
  6338. 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,200
  6339. That takes a while.
  6340.  
  6341. 1633
  6342. 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,200
  6343. And if I'm not mistaken, Pomenkark
  6344.  
  6345. 1634
  6346. 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,200
  6347. was on tour in South America in the end of last year.
  6348.  
  6349. 1635
  6350. 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,200
  6351. I had already heard from Nick
  6352.  
  6353. 1636
  6354. 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,200
  6355. that he was on tour in South America
  6356.  
  6357. 1637
  6358. 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,200
  6359. at the end of December.
  6360.  
  6361. 1638
  6362. 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,200
  6363. So before that time, we did not hear anything.
  6364.  
  6365. 1639
  6366. 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,200
  6367. Because he is somewhere.
  6368.  
  6369. 1640
  6370. 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,200
  6371. So there are a lot of things that play with it in the process.
  6372.  
  6373. 1641
  6374. 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,200
  6375. Nice story.
  6376.  
  6377. 1642
  6378. 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,200
  6379. It's all good.
  6380.  
  6381. 1643
  6382. 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,200
  6383. There they are again.
  6384.  
  6385. 1644
  6386. 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,200
  6387. Yes, he is of course with all the beauties
  6388.  
  6389. 1645
  6390. 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,200
  6391. when we see Pomenkark on tour.
  6392.  
  6393. 1646
  6394. 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,200
  6395. And with the first song he comes with the song.
  6396.  
  6397. 1647
  6398. 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,200
  6399. Yes, I think that will happen.
  6400.  
  6401. 1648
  6402. 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,200
  6403. Because then we all see him for the first time.
  6404.  
  6405. 1649
  6406. 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,200
  6407. I think as a podcast at Gibson TV
  6408.  
  6409. 1650
  6410. 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,200
  6411. it seems to me that Gerrit Zalem, Peter Frampton,
  6412.  
  6413. 1651
  6414. 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,200
  6415. and his guitar was once in a plane crashed down.
  6416.  
  6417. 1652
  6418. 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,200
  6419. And one thought that everything was burned out.
  6420.  
  6421. 1653
  6422. 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,200
  6423. And in the end, the guitar was saved.
  6424.  
  6425. 1654
  6426. 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,200
  6427. And he turned out to have played for 30 years in Curaçao.
  6428.  
  6429. 1655
  6430. 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,200
  6431. And he was also found again years later.
  6432.  
  6433. 1656
  6434. 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,200
  6435. Again through the Netherlands.
  6436.  
  6437. 1657
  6438. 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,200
  6439. Because Curaçao of course,
  6440.  
  6441. 1658
  6442. 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,200
  6443. the king actually hears the Dutch.
  6444.  
  6445. 1659
  6446. 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,200
  6447. There are quite a few of those very beautiful stories
  6448.  
  6449. 1660
  6450. 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,200
  6451. where you really smile and read how it went.
  6452.  
  6453. 1661
  6454. 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,200
  6455. Nice.
  6456.  
  6457. 1662
  6458. 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,200
  6459. Hey Chris, I thought it was a beautiful story.
  6460.  
  6461. 1663
  6462. 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,200
  6463. About the Huffner bass.
  6464.  
  6465. 1664
  6466. 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,200
  6467. About the specifications.
  6468.  
  6469. 1665
  6470. 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,200
  6471. I'm afraid to be too nerdy all the time.
  6472.  
  6473. 1666
  6474. 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,200
  6475. So I always try to...
  6476.  
  6477. 1667
  6478. 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,200
  6479. Well, that was also good.
  6480.  
  6481. 1668
  6482. 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,200
  6483. But I think for our listeners it's really boring.
  6484.  
  6485. 1669
  6486. 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,200
  6487. Yes, really.
  6488.  
  6489. 1670
  6490. 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,200
  6491. I do have to give a disclaimer.
  6492.  
  6493. 1671
  6494. 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,200
  6495. Maybe I'm a little shorter here.
  6496.  
  6497. 1672
  6498. 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,200
  6499. But otherwise it would take 4 hours for a podcast.
  6500.  
  6501. 1673
  6502. 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,200
  6503. No, but it was fine.
  6504.  
  6505. 1674
  6506. 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,200
  6507. And if people have a specific question or want to know something.
  6508.  
  6509. 1675
  6510. 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,200
  6511. I'm going to make a little advertising.
  6512.  
  6513. 1676
  6514. 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,200
  6515. The whole story is now in the bassist.
  6516.  
  6517. 1677
  6518. 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,200
  6519. To get it in stores.
  6520.  
  6521. 1678
  6522. 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,200
  6523. You can also order it without a license.
  6524.  
  6525. 1679
  6526. 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,200
  6527. Via musicmedicines.nl
  6528.  
  6529. 1680
  6530. 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,200
  6531. If you have a specific question, you can always mail it
  6532.  
  6533. 1681
  6534. 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,200
  6535. via chris.nl
  6536.  
  6537. 1682
  6538. 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200
  6539. I'm always open to give more explanations
  6540.  
  6541. 1683
  6542. 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,200
  6543. or to be less short of the corner, so...
  6544.  
  6545. 1684
  6546. 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,200
  6547. That's nice.
  6548.  
  6549. 1685
  6550. 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,200
  6551. Is there a
  6552.  
  6553. 1686
  6554. 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
  6555. Paul McCartney bass party
  6556.  
  6557. 1687
  6558. 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,200
  6559. from a song by The Beatles
  6560.  
  6561. 1688
  6562. 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,200
  6563. or solo that you think, well, there it really is
  6564.  
  6565. 1689
  6566. 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,200
  6567. best for both of them.
  6568.  
  6569. 1690
  6570. 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,200
  6571. With a Huffner.
  6572.  
  6573. 1691
  6574. 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,200
  6575. Oh shit, yes.
  6576.  
  6577. 1692
  6578. 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,200
  6579. I'm going to ask something.
  6580.  
  6581. 1693
  6582. 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,200
  6583. I believe that George Harrison wasn't so happy
  6584.  
  6585. 1694
  6586. 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,200
  6587. that Paul McCartney played that party.
  6588.  
  6589. 1695
  6590. 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,200
  6591. Because it's a very nice ballad.
  6592.  
  6593. 1696
  6594. 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,200
  6595. And suddenly the owner of McCartney
  6596.  
  6597. 1697
  6598. 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,200
  6599. hits the bass on all sides.
  6600.  
  6601. 1698
  6602. 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,200
  6603. I think that party is so beautiful.
  6604.  
  6605. 1699
  6606. 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,200
  6607. I also know from that party that there is a lot of discussion
  6608.  
  6609. 1700
  6610. 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,200
  6611. about which bassist has been recorded.
  6612.  
  6613. 1701
  6614. 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,200
  6615. And I think it's Rick and Becker.
  6616.  
  6617. 1702
  6618. 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
  6619. But for now, we're going to re-enact that doubt.
  6620.  
  6621. 1703
  6622. 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,200
  6623. Zayn and I just want to hear something.
  6624.  
  6625. 1704
  6626. 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,200
  6627. Just ready.
  6628.  
  6629. 1705
  6630. 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,200
  6631. One of the most beautiful bass parties ever.
  6632.  
  6633. 1706
  6634. 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,200
  6635. It's not Paul McCartney's life in The Beatles
  6636.  
  6637. 1707
  6638. 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,200
  6639. but also in the history of the bass.
  6640.  
  6641. 1708
  6642. 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,200
  6643. It's certainly not played on the Huffner.
  6644.  
  6645. 1709
  6646. 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,200
  6647. You can hear that.
  6648.  
  6649. 1710
  6650. 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,200
  6651. Anyway, let's go with something.
  6652.  
  6653. 1711
  6654. 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,200
  6655. Thank you, Chris.
  6656.  
  6657. 1712
  6658. 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,200
  6659. Something in the way she moves me
  6660.  
  6661. 1713
  6662. 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,200
  6663. I don't want to leave her now
  6664.  
  6665. 1714
  6666. 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,200
  6667. You know I believe in how
  6668.  
  6669. 1715
  6670. 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,200
  6671. Somewhere in her smile she knows
  6672.  
  6673. 1716
  6674. 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:33,200
  6675. But I don't need no other lover
  6676.  
  6677. 1717
  6678. 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:41,200
  6679. Something in her style that shows me
  6680.  
  6681. 1718
  6682. 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,200
  6683. I don't want to leave her now
  6684.  
  6685. 1719
  6686. 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
  6687. You know I believe in how
  6688.  
  6689. 1720
  6690. 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,200
  6691. You're asking me will my love grow
  6692.  
  6693. 1721
  6694. 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:09,200
  6695. I don't know, I don't know
  6696.  
  6697. 1722
  6698. 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,200
  6699. You stick around and it may show
  6700.  
  6701. 1723
  6702. 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,200
  6703. I don't know, I don't know
  6704.  
  6705. 1724
  6706. 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,200
  6707. I don't know, I don't know
  6708.  
  6709. 1725
  6710. 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,200
  6711. I don't know, I don't know
  6712.  
  6713. 1726
  6714. 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:46,200
  6715. I don't know, I don't know
  6716.  
  6717. 1727
  6718. 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:53,200
  6719. I don't know, I don't know
  6720.  
  6721. 1728
  6722. 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:02,200
  6723. Something in the way she knows
  6724.  
  6725. 1729
  6726. 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:10,200
  6727. And all I have to do is think of her
  6728.  
  6729. 1730
  6730. 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,200
  6731. Something in the things she shows me
  6732.  
  6733. 1731
  6734. 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,200
  6735. I don't want to leave her now
  6736.  
  6737. 1732
  6738. 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,200
  6739. You know I believe in how
  6740.  
  6741. 1733
  6742. 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,200
  6743. And all I have to do is think of her
  6744.  
  6745. 1734
  6746. 01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,200
  6747. And all I have to do is think of her
  6748.  
  6749. 1735
  6750. 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,200
  6751. And all I have to do is think of her
  6752.  
  6753. 1736
  6754. 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,200
  6755. And all I have to do is think of her
  6756.  
  6757. 1737
  6758. 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,200
  6759. And all I have to do is think of her
  6760.  
  6761. 1738
  6762. 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,200
  6763. And all I have to do is think of her
  6764.  
  6765. 1739
  6766. 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,200
  6767. And all I have to do is think of her
  6768.  
  6769.