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- Ken: You've got people
- who see something.
- akumenang.com
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- It can create
- instantaneous ramping
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- 00:00:51,834 --> 00:00:54,097
- of fear, frenzy, concern,
- in a community.
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- 00:00:59,537 --> 00:01:02,801
- You typically would see
- that kind of situation
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- 00:01:02,975 --> 00:01:05,543
- around serial rape,
- serial murders.
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- 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:15,684
- I can tell you that it creates grave concerns on our part
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- 00:01:15,945 --> 00:01:18,774
- because what we don't want
- is people to be
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- subsequently injured
- in an assault, or murdered.
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- Where somebody claims
- that they felt threatened,
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- 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,136
- or this frenzy just kinda
- takes over
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- and people start
- behaving in ways
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- that they would
- not otherwise behave.
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- Boy 1: Oh, my God.
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- 00:04:14,079 --> 00:04:15,820
- I didn't know
- this was really real.
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- 00:04:15,994 --> 00:04:17,561
- Boy 2: Then why did you hide
- under that girl's bed
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- 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:19,128
- that one time?
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- Boy 1: I know you really
- don't kill,
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- you just show up
- at people's houses.
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- 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:25,743
- Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles.
- This is NBC 2 in Fort Myers.
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- 00:04:25,917 --> 00:04:28,355
- We're just seeing your story
- really blow up online.
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- Anchor: Meet Southwest Florida's
- Wrinkles the Clown.
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- 00:04:36,232 --> 00:04:38,103
- A creepy clown named Wrinkles
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- 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,889
- offered to terrorize
- naughty children for cash.
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- 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:44,109
- Woman: Hi, I have a child that's misbehaving pretty bad.
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- If you give me
- a call back at...
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- 00:04:46,242 --> 00:04:48,592
- Reporter: You can't miss his red
- and white polka dot suit.
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- Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles,
- I'm a reporter
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- 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:51,291
- at the Washington Post.
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- 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:53,162
- I was hoping to interview you
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- 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:56,426
- for a story about your, uh... your amazingness.
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- 00:04:56,644 --> 00:04:59,255
- I found this guy named
- Wrinkles the Clown.
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- 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:02,432
- And he's a guy on Craigslist
- who you can call,
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- 00:05:02,606 --> 00:05:04,739
- and apparently, he'll come
- to your address
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- and scare children.
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- 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:07,263
- He makes me think
- I'm going to die.
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- 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:10,614
- Wrinkles: Hello, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown.
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- No, I'm not here
- to take your call.
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- Leave me a message
- and I'll call you back.
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- Reporter: Wrinkles,
- I'm a reporter
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- at the Naples Daily News.
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- Woman 1: You're scaring
- little people
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- 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:24,889
- that can't defend themselves.
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- Woman 2: Could have been
- a child molester.
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- 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:27,501
- Boy: I've never seen you
- in real life,
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- 00:05:27,675 --> 00:05:29,590
- but I love your YouTube videos.
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- I'm so excited to leave
- this message for you.
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- 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:34,377
- Please call me back.
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- 00:05:34,812 --> 00:05:37,206
- Reporter: Wrinkles is easily and often spotted around town.
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- 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,903
- Here he is
- in Downtown Fort Myers
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- 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:40,383
- and it's the Collier
- County fair.
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- 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:43,343
- Journalist: Hey, Wrinkles.
- 52
- 00:05:43,821 --> 00:05:45,345
- Was writing a story about you and I was interested in that
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- thing you had with
- that little girl
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- that was on YouTube.
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- Reporter: If you haven't seen
- this video,
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- good luck going
- to sleep tonight.
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- 00:05:52,177 --> 00:05:55,703
- - I mean, seriously.
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- He was lurking under the bed
- of a sleeping little girl.
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- He goes by Wrinkles,
- but you may know him
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- 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:03,406
- by his other name,
- Person of Interest.
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- 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,365
- - uh...
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- Woman: I'm calling from CAA
- which is a talent agency
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- 00:06:07,671 --> 00:06:10,195
- - in Los Angeles.
- - Woman: Oh, my God. Oh, my God!
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- 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,763
- Boy: Hey Wrinkles, are you hiding in my friend's backyard,
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- 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:14,417
- because we saw a clown
- that looks exactly like you.
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- This is the County Sheriff's
- Department.
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- I just wanted to call you
- to verify
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- that you're not allowed
- out on Halloween night.
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- If you are found or seen
- by any kids,
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- - you'll be arrested on site.-
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- Christopher: Is that Wrinkles
- the Clown?
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- - No!
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- Let me take a picture with him.
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- Come on, man.
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- Dude, he's a legend.
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- What the fuck?
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- Wrinkles walks by
- and the whole thing.
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- What I saw was like a little
- flyer or pamphlet on a post
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- and I was walking home
- from work one day,
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- and it had him, and his name,
- and his number, and I was like,
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- "Dude, I'm gonna try
- to call this, you know,
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- phone number, get ahold of him,"
- it goes right to his voicemail.
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- I'm like... so I call him over
- and over again,
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- he finally picked up.
- It was the coolest thing
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- 'cause it was, you know,
- actually him saying,
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- - "Hey, what's going on?"
- - I love what he's doing.
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- It brings a spark, an energy,
- to the neighborhood.
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- And...
- ...how many times
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- do we bring it up
- to people alone, you know?
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- Just be afraid of this.
- You can't be afraid of Jason.
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- - It's fiction.
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- You can't be afraid of,
- you know, that Carrie,
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- 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:22,746
- but you better be afraid
- of Wrinkles.
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- - He's real.
- - Peter: Wrinkles, it's like...
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- That's been awesome. He's real.
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- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown.
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- I'm not here to take your call. Leave me a message
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- and I'll call ya back.
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- Man: Wrinkles,
- this is Jack's father.
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- - Man: You got to see me.
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- - He's been acting up.
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- - Girl: Daddy.
- - Man: If they don't stop
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- acting up, I'm gonna give you my address
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- to come and get these little
- motherfuckers.
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- Girl: No!
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- Man: Do you wanna see
- what he looks like?
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- Girl: No.
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- Man: Look, this is what
- he look like.
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- - Girl: No!
- - Girl 2: Sorry. I'm sorry.
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- Woman 1: My kids' names
- are Angelina and Mia.
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- Please just calm down, Mia.
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- Woman 2: He says he needs
- the TV.
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- He thinks he'll come out
- this motherfuckin' TV.
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- Hey, um, Wrinkle, I need you to come get these badass kids
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- - like I'm...
- - Boy: No!
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- Man on TV: Oh, it's fine.
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- He's been like a madman.
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- Personal vengeance and shame
- they are.
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- 00:08:39,997 --> 00:08:42,173
- However, uh, did you have
- much trouble getting here?
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- Man on TV: Just hold your breath. If it is right...
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- Wrinkles: You know, uh,
- I'll probably never
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- unmask myself.
- I don't wanna be hassled.
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- I get hassled enough
- with the phone calls,
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- 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:02,672
- things like that.
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- 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:04,892
- I don't need kids recognizing me
- on the street, you know.
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- I'm not going to talk you
- in my real voice either.
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- You want Wrinkles, you're gonna
- get Wrinkles,
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- 00:09:08,678 --> 00:09:09,592
- you know, including the voice.
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- 00:09:12,247 --> 00:09:13,683
- Man on TV: ...but we'll not attack again,
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- unless there's...
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- - Woman on TV: You're not.
- - Wrinkles: I get...
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- I get hundreds and hundreds
- of voicemails a day.
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- 00:09:19,602 --> 00:09:21,256
- The whole viral thing
- for me is, uh...
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- It's kind of a pain in the ass.
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- Everybody and their
- fucking grandmother
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- has my phone number.
- Jesus Christ.
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- Uh, I get moms and dads that call and ask whose number
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- 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:33,573
- this is 'cause they see the number in the kids' phone,
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- 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:35,662
- and they wanna know who it is,
- you know.
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- 00:09:35,836 --> 00:09:37,794
- Uh, you get kids that call
- and are like,
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- "Hey, we love you, Wrinkles"
- and all that good stuff.
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- Then you got your legit parents
- out there that really are
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- 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:45,019
- looking for some, uh,
- behavioral services.
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- Wrinkles: My favorite kind
- of scares are the ones
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- that pay the most.
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- You know, I'll show up outside
- in the backyard, you know,
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- 00:09:53,505 --> 00:09:55,899
- maybe give a knock on the window
- and, you know, make sure
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- they see me and give them
- a wave, but, you know,
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- 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,512
- I'm not wielding, uh,
- knives and machetes,
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- 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:03,864
- and things like that.
- I give the parents my sticker,
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- 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:06,170
- I say, "Oh, you put the sticker up here in the fridge."
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- 00:10:06,475 --> 00:10:07,998
- Maybe tell them, "Hey,
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- 00:10:08,172 --> 00:10:09,783
- you misbehave again,
- Wrinkles is gonna come back.
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- 00:10:09,957 --> 00:10:11,045
- There's his phone number
- right now,
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- 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:12,263
- I'll call him right now."
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- 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:15,571
- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown.
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- 00:10:15,876 --> 00:10:17,312
- Leave me a message
- and I'll call ya back.
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- 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:20,837
- Girl: No, Daddy.
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- 00:10:21,011 --> 00:10:23,492
- - Man: Hello, Wrinkles?
- - Girl: No. No!
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- 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:25,233
- Man: I'm... Let me
- call you back.
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- 00:10:25,494 --> 00:10:26,277
- I'mma call you back
- because I think she's trying
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- 00:10:26,451 --> 00:10:27,496
- to act right now.
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- 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:29,585
- But if she doesn't act right, I'll give you...
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- 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:30,804
- Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles,
- just calling to let you know
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- 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:32,327
- Kaila being bad in the store.
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- 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:34,982
- She's running around
- and everything. Yeah.
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- 00:10:37,245 --> 00:10:38,899
- Antonio: Okay. I want you
- to come get her for a minute
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- 00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:41,031
- or do something
- 'cause she's being bad.
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- 00:10:41,336 --> 00:10:43,860
- There you go. Hang on.
- You got it?
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- 00:10:44,034 --> 00:10:45,166
- And I want you to eat her.
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- - Kaila?
- - Hmm?
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- 00:10:47,255 --> 00:10:49,605
- Antonio: Can you tell me, um,
- tell me what Wrinkle...
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- 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:51,433
- how Wrinkle the Clown
- sound to you?
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- 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,176
- He was like,
- "Oh, Kaila,
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- 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:57,918
- I'm gonna eat you
- if you'll be bad."
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- 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:01,399
- Antonio: Oh, I bring...
- you want me to bring you
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- 00:11:01,573 --> 00:11:02,836
- to her when I see you?
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- 00:11:03,837 --> 00:11:04,707
- All right.
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- 00:11:05,621 --> 00:11:07,362
- Yeah. 'Cause she's
- being bad, Wrinkles.
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- 00:11:08,232 --> 00:11:09,277
- Yeah.
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- 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,759
- There you go.
- Good job.
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- 00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:16,632
- I'm scared of Wrinkles
- the Clown. He come to my house
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- 00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:19,853
- and scare me at night
- if I be asleep.
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- 00:11:20,027 --> 00:11:21,332
- Antonio: Oh, yeah?
- But what if you're good?
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- 00:11:21,506 --> 00:11:24,379
- - What happens?
- - He don't come and visit me
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- 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:27,077
- if I be bad... if I be good.
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- 00:11:27,295 --> 00:11:28,862
- Antonio: If you're good,
- he doesn't come to visit?
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- 00:11:29,601 --> 00:11:30,777
- Oh, okay.
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- 00:11:31,908 --> 00:11:33,780
- I don't see that
- that's child abuse.
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- 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:35,912
- They're gonna try
- and push the limit
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- 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:38,610
- the older that they get
- and so that's basically
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- 00:11:38,785 --> 00:11:42,092
- just a boundary saying, um,
- you can go this far,
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- 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:43,746
- just don't cross that line.
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- 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:48,533
- They said they're gonna eat me
- and they said, "no."
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- 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,187
- Antonio: Oh, okay.
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- 00:11:52,537 --> 00:11:55,323
- I think he did it to actually become some type
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- 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:58,021
- of contributor to society,
- giving parents another way
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- 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:02,199
- to discipline the kid and bring them in line early.
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- 00:12:06,203 --> 00:12:07,639
- Dean: "Skype can't connect
- to your webcam."
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- 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:09,467
- I don't have a webcam.
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- 00:12:09,641 --> 00:12:11,295
- Hey, Dad, I'm doing
- the interview right now.
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- 00:12:12,644 --> 00:12:14,124
- I'm doing the interview
- right now.
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- 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,561
- Yeah, I could see where people
- would hire Wrinkles,
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- 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,694
- especially if their children
- are being naughty.
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- 00:12:18,868 --> 00:12:20,914
- I'm not naughty,
- you're scaring me.
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- 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,267
- I would definitely hire Wrinkles
- to scare somebody
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- 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,444
- because I'm a terrible person,
- man.
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- 00:12:29,618 --> 00:12:31,968
- I know where the gun is, okay?
- And I will...
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- 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:35,319
- If he shows up to my room
- at 3:00 a.m...
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- 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,060
- Eadie, you're gonna get me
- arrested here.
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- 00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:38,888
- He went in the bathroom,
- he got toilet paper.
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- 00:12:39,106 --> 00:12:41,935
- He was just throwing it
- all around the house
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- 00:12:42,109 --> 00:12:43,240
- so I called the number.
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- 00:12:43,588 --> 00:12:46,896
- And Wrink... The voicemail
- picked up again,
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- 00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:49,899
- and when we heard the laugh,
- he lost his mind.
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- 00:12:50,291 --> 00:12:51,988
- I promise, he lost his mind.
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- 00:12:52,293 --> 00:12:54,861
- He just started crying and he...
- I promise he didn't move
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- 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:57,602
- for about, I think,
- like, two hours.
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- 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,256
- He didn't move for,
- like, two hours.
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- Antonio: Okay.
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- 00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:04,566
- Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles
- the Clown.
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- 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:06,350
- Kaila: Stop.
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- 00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:08,309
- - Antonio: Kaila's being bad.
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- 00:13:08,483 --> 00:13:10,311
- I need you to come get her
- 'cause she's being bad.
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- 00:13:12,487 --> 00:13:15,011
- - Kaila: Stop calling him.
- - Antonio: Don't be bad then.
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- 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:21,104
- Woman: Hi, Wrinkles, there's
- this very bad child...
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- 00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:23,193
- - ...Jordan,
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- 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:24,629
- and I was just wondering
- if you could give me
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- 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:25,674
- a call back.
- 230
- 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,895
- You hear this?
- This is Wrinkles.
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- 00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:33,682
- - So misguided.
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- 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:36,728
- My name is George Holden.
- I'm a professor
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- 00:13:36,903 --> 00:13:40,167
- and Chair of Psychology
- at Southern Methodist University
- 234
- 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:42,517
- and I'm a developmental
- psychologist.
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- 00:13:42,691 --> 00:13:46,608
- I study parent-child
- relationships, family violence,
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- 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:48,392
- parents' use of discipline.
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- 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:53,702
- This idea of calling Wrinkles
- the Clown is really misguided.
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- 00:13:53,876 --> 00:13:56,270
- If it's done frequently enough,
- it's...
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- 00:13:56,444 --> 00:13:58,620
- If it's a pattern of behavior,
- in this case,
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- 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:00,622
- we're talking
- about terrorizing a child,
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- 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,015
- that is...
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- 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:06,367
- currently accepted
- as one manifestation
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- 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:09,936
- of psychological maltreatment,
- which is a form of child abuse.
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- 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:14,766
- I found out about Wrinkles the Clown through a news story.
- 245
- 00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:17,769
- To me, it's sad that he couldn't come up with
- 246
- 00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:21,034
- a more positive approach.
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- 00:14:21,338 --> 00:14:24,167
- He doesn't actually have
- to travel into a home
- 248
- 00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:26,778
- but that threat can still be,
- at least for kids,
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- 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,129
- as powerful as the real thing.
- 250
- 00:14:29,607 --> 00:14:32,828
- Antonio: Oh, so you're
- hyper now, Mrs. Want to, um...
- 251
- 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:34,917
- - ...play with the ducks.
- 252
- 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:39,052
- Antonio: Oh, they running
- over here.
- 253
- 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:41,793
- - Here I come with some food!
- - Antonio: Throw it in there.
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- 00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,712
- Antonio: I definitely
- would use Wrinkles
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- 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:50,411
- one hundred percent of the time
- over spankings.
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- 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,501
- Spankings, uh...
- That kind of leaves a mark...
- 257
- 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:56,373
- ...you know,
- and so the phone, um,
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- 00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:59,768
- it's a voice. And it kinda
- leaves the, um,
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- 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:03,424
- scary option of, "if I'm bad,
- then I gotta hear this voice,"
- 260
- 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,687
- and she doesn't wanna hear
- the voice.
- 261
- 00:15:13,738 --> 00:15:15,915
- Wrinkles: When I was a kid,
- you got the fucking belt.
- 262
- 00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:17,568
- You know,
- my dad was old school.
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- 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:19,353
- He would go hard on you,
- you know?
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- 00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:20,745
- He cared about us
- and he didn't want us
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- 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,356
- to get in trouble, so...
- 266
- 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,314
- Now, it's like, you know,
- you can't hit your kids,
- 267
- 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,186
- you can't do this,
- you'll go to jail.
- 268
- 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,102
- So, you know, they're using
- psychological warfare,
- 269
- 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,669
- things like that, you know?
- They're using what's available.
- 270
- 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:34,455
- And is that as harmful
- as spanking your kid
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- 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:35,804
- with a belt, you know?
- I don't know.
- 272
- 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:37,458
- It's up to you,
- you're the parent.
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- 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:43,116
- Wrinkles: I've been asked before
- 274
- 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:45,553
- if I feel guilty
- about the parents
- 275
- 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:47,642
- that wanna use me
- for behavioral services.
- 276
- 00:15:47,816 --> 00:15:50,340
- You know, that's a contract
- between me and mom and dad.
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- 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:53,300
- That's nobody else's business,
- so you got a problem with it,
- 278
- 00:15:53,474 --> 00:15:54,779
- you can take it up
- with mom and dad,
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- 00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:56,259
- 'cause I'm just doing my job.
- 280
- 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:31,381
- Girl: Why are you stalking
- little kids?
- 281
- 00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:38,475
- Jarrett: Oh, here.
- I have an idea.
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- 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:42,523
- Is this good?
- 283
- 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:45,961
- Um, what I wanna do
- when I'm older is
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- 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:50,009
- I wanna be a professional
- animal trainer.
- 285
- 00:16:51,053 --> 00:16:54,404
- So, this is my dog Schnitzel.
- He is a schnauzer mix.
- 286
- 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:57,494
- And then this is
- my mom's dog, Gracey.
- 287
- 00:16:58,147 --> 00:17:01,498
- Her owners died and no one
- really knows how,
- 288
- 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:03,674
- not even, like, police
- or anything.
- 289
- 00:17:10,116 --> 00:17:13,467
- Jarrett: Okay. So, I just wanted
- to try to call clowns
- 290
- 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:15,164
- just to see, like,
- what would happen
- 291
- 00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:16,774
- and I didn't get in trouble
- for it
- 292
- 00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:18,428
- but my parents were like,
- 293
- 00:17:18,689 --> 00:17:20,430
- "Why are you calling a clown?" and I was, like,
- 294
- 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,476
- "Well,
- Wrinkles sounds more real
- 295
- 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:24,043
- than what I've seen
- on YouTube."
- 296
- 00:17:24,913 --> 00:17:28,003
- I was like, "Don't be looking up
- numbers online,
- 297
- 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:31,354
- don't be calling random people.
- 298
- 00:17:31,528 --> 00:17:33,878
- Don't... You don't even know
- if this is...
- 299
- 00:17:34,488 --> 00:17:36,707
- Access to this stuff is scary
- 300
- 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:38,274
- 'cause you don't know
- what they're getting into.
- 301
- 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:40,146
- You try to keep an eye on it
- and try to...
- 302
- 00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:42,713
- But you can't govern all of it
- 303
- 00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:45,151
- and so you just kinda
- have to hope that you've...
- 304
- 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:46,935
- you know, that they have
- a good sense
- 305
- 00:17:47,109 --> 00:17:49,459
- of what's good and not.
- 306
- 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,767
- And yet you got children
- who otherwise wouldn't even care
- 307
- 00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:55,030
- about clowns except
- now scary clowns are cool
- 308
- 00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:59,252
- and so he goes clown crazy
- sometimes.
- 309
- 00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:01,080
- Jarrett: Hey, Wrinkles,
- 310
- 00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:03,517
- I love clowns,
- I love everything.
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- 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,260
- Clowns inspire me.
- Um, call me back,
- 312
- 00:18:07,434 --> 00:18:09,392
- leave me a message,
- text me, anything.
- 313
- 00:18:09,653 --> 00:18:11,264
- I'm making a YouTube video.
- 314
- 00:18:12,308 --> 00:18:13,135
- Bye.
- 315
- 00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:31,893
- Jarrett: If I hired Wrinkles,
- once my kid fell asleep,
- 316
- 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:33,851
- I would make him
- hide under here,
- 317
- 00:18:34,025 --> 00:18:35,897
- and I would like
- make him bang stuff,
- 318
- 00:18:36,071 --> 00:18:38,378
- like under here, and, like,
- make him, like,
- 319
- 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:40,902
- get fr...
- like, freaked out a little bit.
- 320
- 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,384
- And then.. And then
- once they fall asleep again,
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- 00:18:44,732 --> 00:18:48,083
- like, I would have him,
- like, come out like this,
- 322
- 00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:49,519
- and I'd have him go...
- 323
- 00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:51,913
- Like that maybe.
- 324
- 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:54,524
- And, like... Just, like,
- try to mess with him even more.
- 325
- 00:18:55,046 --> 00:18:58,528
- And... And then once
- they fell asleep again,
- 326
- 00:18:58,702 --> 00:18:59,964
- I would have him go like this.
- 327
- 00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:12,847
- Jarrett: I think some people
- sometimes need to be scared,
- 328
- 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:14,762
- every once in a while.
- 329
- 00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:19,114
- Just, like, some people,
- if they're, like,
- 330
- 00:19:19,288 --> 00:19:22,248
- really sad or something,
- you can just try to scare 'em,
- 331
- 00:19:22,422 --> 00:19:27,427
- and it'll just make 'em like,
- I guess, a little happier.
- 332
- 00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:30,865
- Like, if I'm home alone
- watching creepy videos
- 333
- 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:32,693
- and I get scared,
- I kinda like it.
- 334
- 00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:34,695
- Like, it'll start feeling
- real to me
- 335
- 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:37,480
- like there's something else
- creepy happening, like,
- 336
- 00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:39,874
- - in the room with me.
- -Boy: And Slenderman!
- 337
- 00:19:40,048 --> 00:19:41,005
- Girl: What are you doing?
- 338
- 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:42,920
- Boy: Slenderman!
- 339
- 00:19:43,312 --> 00:19:44,966
- - Girl: Okay. Stop.
- - Boy: Slenderman! Slenderman!
- 340
- 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:47,534
- Boy: I just felt something
- behind me.
- 341
- 00:19:47,751 --> 00:19:48,926
- Girl: Okay. Okay.
- 342
- 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,758
- Boy: I know that Slenderman
- is real. I know that he is.
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- 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,195
- Trevor: Folklore is an outlet
- 344
- 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:58,022
- for connecting
- with other people.
- 345
- 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:01,200
- The superstitions they believe,
- the legends that they tell.
- 346
- 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:02,940
- Folklorists,
- and myself included,
- 347
- 00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:06,509
- find this to be richly evocative
- of what culture is.
- 348
- 00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:14,125
- Boy: Dude.
- 349
- 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:17,999
- Boy: We have to just
- put rice in it.
- 350
- 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,870
- We have to cut it
- and then put rice.
- 351
- 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:21,350
- and put it with the knife.
- 352
- 00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:24,875
- Boy: Shit. Okay. Tag you're it,
- tag you're it, tag you're it.
- 353
- 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:27,487
- Children: Diablo, you're it.
- Diablo, you're it.
- 354
- 00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:31,099
- - Boy: Go! Go, go, go, go!
- 355
- 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,754
- Trevor: One of the things
- that happens with legends
- 356
- 00:20:33,928 --> 00:20:36,017
- is we try to verify
- that they're real or not.
- 357
- 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,022
- Charlie, Charlie, can we play?
- Charlie, Charlie can we...
- 358
- 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,114
- Online, we see that kids
- are propelling the transmission
- 359
- 00:20:46,288 --> 00:20:48,682
- of folklore in a very,
- very rapid succession,
- 360
- 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:50,858
- in ways that were
- not previously done before.
- 361
- 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:52,947
- Girl: Devil. Devil.
- 362
- 00:20:54,078 --> 00:20:55,210
- Devil.
- 363
- 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:56,690
- Devil.
- 364
- 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:58,213
- - Devil.
- - Woman: Play it again.
- 365
- 00:20:58,387 --> 00:20:59,606
- Boy:
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- 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:01,651
- Folklore provides
- an opportunity for us
- 367
- 00:21:01,825 --> 00:21:05,655
- to perform and test out ideas
- to experiment with something
- 368
- 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,527
- - that is scary...
- - Girl: I'm so scared.
- 369
- 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:09,529
- Woman: What if we go missing
- and they play this on the news
- 370
- 00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:11,400
- - the next day?
- - ...and play with that
- 371
- 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:15,099
- to test the boundaries
- of safety.
- 372
- 00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:17,667
- Girls: Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary.
- 373
- 00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:19,800
- - Boy: Bloody Mary.
- - Girls: Bloody Mary.
- 374
- 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:24,021
- - Woman: Bloody Mary.
- - All: Bloody Mary.
- 375
- 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:37,600
- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown,
- 376
- 00:21:37,818 --> 00:21:39,472
- but I'm not here
- to take your call.
- 377
- 00:21:39,863 --> 00:21:41,517
- Leave me a message
- and I'll call ya back.
- 378
- 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,304
- I'm getting the fuck
- out of here.
- 379
- 00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:49,873
- - Um...
- - No!
- 380
- 00:21:50,134 --> 00:21:51,875
- Ooh, try it again, try it again.
- 381
- 00:21:52,659 --> 00:21:54,530
- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown,
- 382
- 00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:56,576
- but I'm not here
- to take your call.
- 383
- 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:57,707
- Did you hear that?
- 384
- 00:21:58,839 --> 00:21:59,883
- That was creepy.
- 385
- 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,060
- Now that's Wrinkles the Clown.
- 386
- 00:22:03,713 --> 00:22:05,280
- Boy: Should we show them
- the phone number?
- 387
- 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:06,803
- Girl: Wait.
- Everyone, be quiet.
- 388
- 00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:08,936
- - Girl: 4-0-7...
- - Boy: ...7-3-4...
- 389
- 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:12,809
- Girl: ...0-2-5-4.
- Call that number.
- 390
- 00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:14,637
- Boy: Now.
- 391
- 00:22:14,855 --> 00:22:16,247
- Girl: I'm going
- to call Wrinkles.
- 392
- 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:18,293
- - Girl: He's gonna eat us.
- 393
- 00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:22,515
- Trevor: What makes Wrinkles
- the Clown significant
- 394
- 00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:24,473
- as an example
- of digital folklore
- 395
- 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:27,694
- is how people have responded
- to his phone number,
- 396
- 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:32,351
- uh, and have made kind
- of a ritual out of calling him.
- 397
- 00:22:32,525 --> 00:22:34,918
- And videos documenting
- the proof of actually
- 398
- 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,878
- contacting Wrinkles
- is part of the performance.
- 399
- 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:39,488
- It's a part of the ritual.
- 400
- 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:41,185
- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown,
- 401
- 00:22:41,447 --> 00:22:42,970
- but I'm not here
- to take your call.
- 402
- 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:44,885
- Leave me a message
- and I'll call ya back.
- 403
- 00:22:47,061 --> 00:22:49,977
- - Boys: What the heck?
- - Dude, that's scary.
- 404
- 00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,675
- Boy: Yeah. I told you.
- I told you.
- 405
- 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:07,255
- - Boy: Bye, Mr. Wrinkle.
- - It went straight to voicemail.
- 406
- 00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,650
- - Oh. Well, he's there at least.
- - Boy: Wait. Wait, wait.
- 407
- 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:13,087
- Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
- Wrinkles the Clown,
- 408
- 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:14,654
- - but I'm not...
- 409
- 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:16,177
- Boy: He...
- He put it to voice...
- 410
- 00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:18,440
- He just turned off
- the phone completely.
- 411
- 00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:22,662
- Oh, yeah. Let me go in here
- and turn off the TV.
- 412
- 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,840
- This is where I do
- all my videos.
- 413
- 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:28,450
- I should have just gone in here.
- 414
- 00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:31,279
- For fun, I like to watch videos
- and make videos
- 415
- 00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:32,454
- on my YouTube channel.
- 416
- 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,718
- What I like about YouTube
- is you can be creative
- 417
- 00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:38,242
- and you can do what you want
- and not have to
- 418
- 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:39,940
- do what anybody else wants.
- 419
- 00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:47,730
- Sean: Me and my sister were watching YouTube videos,
- 420
- 00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,819
- and we came across
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 421
- 00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:52,387
- And so we started
- doing research on him
- 422
- 00:23:52,692 --> 00:23:55,434
- and then we just
- called him for a video.
- 423
- 00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:57,523
- We're like, "What if he answers?
- 424
- 00:23:57,697 --> 00:24:00,221
- And what if he's gonna be
- real creepy?
- 425
- 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,702
- What if he's gonna
- start threatening us?
- 426
- 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:06,096
- What if he just can't take
- getting called like that?"
- 427
- 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,535
- And we're sitting there, like,
- "We shouldn't have done this."
- 428
- 00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,239
- It feels like a horror movie
- when you see someone...
- 429
- 00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:19,762
- something's about to happen.
- 430
- 00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,075
- Sean: After I saw the video,
- I felt paranoid.
- 431
- 00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:31,208
- And I had a nightmare, and like,
- there was clowns in my house,
- 432
- 00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:33,515
- and, like, you couldn't see
- them, but you could see
- 433
- 00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:37,171
- a shadow of them walk by
- and it was, like, very creepy.
- 434
- 00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:40,087
- And it made me, like,
- very scared.
- 435
- 00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,481
- I took out my box spring.
- 436
- 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:46,180
- I slept just on the floor
- on my mattress and everything.
- 437
- 00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:48,399
- I didn't want anything
- underneath my bed
- 438
- 00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,619
- because I just don't wanna
- wake up in the middle
- 439
- 00:24:50,837 --> 00:24:54,362
- of the night and there be
- a clown sitting there,
- 440
- 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:57,408
- and I don't wanna...
- ...start screaming.
- 441
- 00:24:58,235 --> 00:25:01,021
- Sean: We ordered boxes
- and I put it in my closet
- 442
- 00:25:01,674 --> 00:25:04,372
- just so nothing could get
- in my closet,
- 443
- 00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:07,767
- nothing could be under my bed.
- I just felt more safe.
- 444
- 00:25:08,332 --> 00:25:10,030
- And locked my windows.
- 445
- 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:16,166
- It kinda sucks to not be able
- to feel safe at your own house.
- 446
- 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:33,357
- - Girl: Hello, Wrinkles.
- 447
- 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:37,100
- I need you to come to my house and kidnap a little girl.
- 448
- 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,952
- Girl: What did we do
- to deserve this?
- 449
- 00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:23,843
- Funky: Scaring kids,
- scaring people...
- 450
- 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,496
- I don't know what kind
- of parents would do that.
- 451
- 00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:26,889
- No parent I know.
- 452
- 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,458
- Talcum powder,
- put it in a sock to set...
- 453
- 00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:34,201
- 'cause you wanna be matte,
- you don't wanna be shiny.
- 454
- 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:37,421
- Real clowning is putting on
- greasepaint makeup...
- 455
- 00:26:38,814 --> 00:26:40,381
- putting the money
- into the costumes,
- 456
- 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,383
- into your craft, having the right kind of heart,
- 457
- 00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:45,081
- and your goal is
- to make people smile.
- 458
- 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,474
- Make people laugh.
- 459
- 00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:48,432
- That's a lot harder
- than scaring people.
- 460
- 00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:54,525
- Narrator: Now, a circus clown likes to have a full half hour
- 461
- 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:55,962
- for putting it on his face.
- 462
- 00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,051
- Benjamin: The sort
- of default clown
- 463
- 00:26:58,268 --> 00:26:59,400
- that most Americans
- are familiar with
- 464
- 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,010
- is the happy clown.
- 465
- 00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:02,664
- And this is because of, like, Bozo the Clown.
- 466
- 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,319
- The Happy Birthday Clown.
- 467
- 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,061
- We love the trickster figure. We love the figure
- 468
- 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:09,889
- that makes us think
- and makes us laugh
- 469
- 00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:11,412
- and maybe embarrasses us.
- 470
- 00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:13,849
- Narrator: These clowns
- are trying out a new act.
- 471
- 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:16,547
- Benjamin: Historically,
- clowns operated in silence.
- 472
- 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:19,115
- And part of that goes back
- to their nature
- 473
- 00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:20,551
- and their role in the circus.
- 474
- 00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:23,337
- They're exaggerated.
- They're over the top.
- 475
- 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:24,555
- They're hyper human.
- 476
- 00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,427
- They can do these weird,
- bizarre
- 477
- 00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:28,472
- seemingly supernatural things.
- 478
- 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:30,692
- We know that there's
- a human underneath
- 479
- 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,955
- the greasepaint and the wig
- and whatever else,
- 480
- 00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:36,480
- and yet, there's something
- unnatural about them,
- 481
- 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,004
- something inhuman.
- 482
- 00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:41,094
- On one hand, they're
- presenting themselves
- 483
- 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,923
- to the public as happy
- and goofy.
- 484
- 00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:47,535
- On the other hand, of course, we know that that's an act.
- 485
- 00:27:48,144 --> 00:27:49,711
- You don't know their identity,
- 486
- 00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:51,278
- you don't know what
- their intentions are,
- 487
- 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:52,366
- you don't know what
- they're gonna do
- 488
- 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:53,846
- and that creeps people out.
- 489
- 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,456
- When you add in the access
- to children,
- 490
- 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,197
- - that just amps it up.
- 491
- 00:27:57,414 --> 00:28:00,591
- Did you like that?
- Oh, heart is just going wild.
- 492
- 00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:02,376
- I do have a fear of clowns.
- 493
- 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,074
- I do have coulrophobia
- which is the fear of clowns.
- 494
- 00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:09,209
- Their face is painted
- and it's scary, like,
- 495
- 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:10,601
- what are you gonna do?
- 496
- 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,169
- You remember when I dressed up
- as a clown to scare you?
- 497
- 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,824
- - No.
- - Well, I do. And you screamed
- 498
- 00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:17,913
- and fell backwards,
- and laid there.
- 499
- 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,222
- Benjamin: It's a mistake to ask
- "When did clowns go bad?"
- 500
- 00:28:22,396 --> 00:28:24,398
- because the evil side
- has always been there.
- 501
- 00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,401
- One of the most famous
- evil clowns historically
- 502
- 00:28:27,575 --> 00:28:29,882
- is Mr. Punch, the star
- of The Punch and Judy shows,
- 503
- 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,841
- which have been popular
- in England for centuries.
- 504
- 00:28:33,015 --> 00:28:35,844
- These two puppets are just
- nasty, and abusive,
- 505
- 00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:39,152
- and vile, and homicidal.
- 506
- 00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,503
- And it's a kid show.
- And kids love it!
- 507
- 00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:44,592
- So when you see
- these evil clowns
- 508
- 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:46,725
- come out in culture,
- in pop culture, in movies,
- 509
- 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:49,249
- and films, and things like that,
- it's really hearkening back
- 510
- 00:28:49,423 --> 00:28:52,382
- to a more genuine part
- of the clown.
- 511
- 00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:54,428
- You can call me...
- 512
- 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,605
- - Joker.
- 513
- 00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,609
- Woman: No!
- 514
- 00:29:15,797 --> 00:29:17,233
- - Man 2: Man down!
- 515
- 00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:24,980
- - And when you're down here
- 516
- 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:29,419
- with me, you'll float too.
- 517
- 00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:34,642
- - You'll float, too!
- 518
- 00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:41,083
- Funky: Today, I just came
- from face painting at a party,
- 519
- 00:29:41,301 --> 00:29:43,651
- and like six of the boys
- wanted to be Pennywise.
- 520
- 00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:47,263
- There's a whole generation
- growing up
- 521
- 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,614
- with no positive image
- of a clown whatsoever.
- 522
- 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,183
- I go to a party,
- I make people laugh
- 523
- 00:29:54,357 --> 00:29:55,881
- and I make cool stuff like this.
- 524
- 00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:57,273
- And get bunch of kids
- walking around with these.
- 525
- 00:29:58,927 --> 00:30:02,061
- 3-D!
- 526
- 00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,280
- Cool.
- 527
- 00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:08,415
- Slap on a mask, you have
- this empowerment to make people
- 528
- 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:11,461
- react to you, you know?
- And that's a powerful thing.
- 529
- 00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:15,552
- You know. But that's
- what terrorism is.
- 530
- 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,773
- Funky: Real clowns
- are not scary.
- 531
- 00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:23,343
- Man: John Gacy,
- 532
- 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:25,214
- a man who liked to put on
- a clown suit
- 533
- 00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,825
- and entertain children.
- 534
- 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:28,870
- Now, he is charged
- with one murder...
- 535
- 00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:31,220
- and the police have found,
- at last count,
- 536
- 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,833
- 27 bodies buried
- under his house and garage
- 537
- 00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:36,835
- and two more in a nearby river.
- 538
- 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:46,496
- Benjamin: In the 1980s,
- soon after John Wayne Gacy,
- 539
- 00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:49,760
- rumors and stories circulated that there were clowns,
- 540
- 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,719
- often groups of them
- in white vans,
- 541
- 00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:54,809
- that were circling around
- trying to abduct kids.
- 542
- 00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:57,507
- And it spread.
- 543
- 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:02,121
- In each case you had
- these rumors
- 544
- 00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,210
- in the school districts,
- in the communities
- 545
- 00:31:04,384 --> 00:31:06,560
- often shared in the news media
- 546
- 00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:09,824
- and by parents who would
- call, panicked.
- 547
- 00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:14,307
- A van of clowns trying
- to abduct kids?
- 548
- 00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:15,961
- Of course you're gonna
- freak out.
- 549
- 00:31:16,135 --> 00:31:17,223
- Who wouldn't freak out?
- 550
- 00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:46,078
- Wrinkles: I started off
- Wrinkles The Clown
- 551
- 00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:49,081
- just as, you know, something
- to keep me occupied
- 552
- 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:50,734
- as, you know, retired
- and whatnot.
- 553
- 00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,697
- You know, I did the face makeup and everything,
- 554
- 00:31:56,871 --> 00:31:58,568
- but after a while,
- especially living down here,
- 555
- 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:00,179
- the face makeup,
- it just melts off.
- 556
- 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,146
- You know, no one was hiring me
- when I was just a regular clown.
- 557
- 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,495
- I just thought, yeah, you know,
- 558
- 00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:14,062
- maybe I'll give it
- a little edge.
- 559
- 00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,109
- Something different. All these clowns are the same,
- 560
- 00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:18,414
- it's kind of boring.
- 561
- 00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:31,688
- Saw this one mask on eBay and...
- 562
- 00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:33,734
- I don't know, I just liked
- the way it looked.
- 563
- 00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:35,736
- Looked, uh...
- It was somewhere between, like,
- 564
- 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:38,086
- Michael Myers
- and my grandfather.
- 565
- 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:39,740
- And I was like, "Hey,
- that's pretty funny.
- 566
- 00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:42,264
- It's kind of creepy, it's kinda
- got everything I need."
- 567
- 00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,005
- So I gave it a try.
- 568
- 00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:49,924
- I'm outside. I had
- to come tell my mama
- 569
- 00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:51,534
- that it powered off.
- 570
- 00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:53,406
- I'm a comedian
- 571
- 00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,279
- and I can make people laugh
- very easily.
- 572
- 00:32:57,497 --> 00:32:59,281
- I can do a funny face.
- 573
- 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,682
- Rena: When I was
- eight years old,
- 574
- 00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:10,945
- I first heard about Wrinkles
- 575
- 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,209
- and I was, like,
- very freaked out.
- 576
- 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,212
- I was kind of scared
- 577
- 00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,606
- that he would come
- to my house or something.
- 578
- 00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:20,824
- Wrinkles.
- 579
- 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,001
- What you want, bruh?
- 580
- 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:24,741
- Do you wanna fight?
- 581
- 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:27,005
- Come over to Georgia, okay?
- 582
- 00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:29,703
- - Rena: Mom?
- - Cheryl: Yeah?
- 583
- 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,574
- Rena: And I'm
- not telling you my address
- 584
- 00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:33,837
- so you might as well
- find my address.
- 585
- 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,361
- I have a mama...
- 586
- 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,711
- that's crippled...
- 587
- 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,583
- but I can still fight back.
- 588
- 00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:44,239
- I have a dog that's named Halo. Where is she?
- 589
- 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:45,893
- Cheryl: Rena, hang the phone up.
- 590
- 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,204
- Don't you make me drop you.
- 591
- 00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:57,122
- Fiona, can I borrow some
- of your cat food? Okay.
- 592
- 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:08,916
- Rena: Good girl.
- 593
- 00:34:09,786 --> 00:34:11,440
- Rena:
- What you gonna do?
- 594
- 00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:14,313
- 'Cause who cares about you?
- 595
- 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:16,445
- You need to be in jail
- right now.
- 596
- 00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:17,838
- - Rena: Say something.
- 597
- 00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:20,275
- Cheryl: Quit messing
- with these children.
- 598
- 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,105
- Rena: Stop. I'm about
- to come up there
- 599
- 00:34:24,323 --> 00:34:26,151
- - and whoop your ass right now.
- 600
- 00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:28,892
- I'm sorry.
- 601
- 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,330
- Rena: Because who cares
- about you?
- 602
- 00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:35,682
- I care about God and you care about the devil or something?
- 603
- 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,988
- Yes, he does.
- 604
- 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,426
- - I said the "A" word.
- - Rena: You can say I am,
- 605
- 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,167
- - but I'm not...
- - Cheryl: Well, I had no idea
- 606
- 00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,387
- that she was talking
- to actual Wrinkles, you know.
- 607
- 00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:47,781
- Rena: I wasn't talking to him.
- I left a voicemail.
- 608
- 00:34:47,955 --> 00:34:49,043
- Yeah.
- 609
- 00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:52,481
- I'm scared about another
- cuss word or something.
- 610
- 00:34:53,569 --> 00:34:55,049
- Cheryl: Well,
- they've already heard it.
- 611
- 00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:58,139
- That's just crazy. It's funny.
- 612
- 00:34:58,357 --> 00:34:59,749
- - But, uh...
- 613
- 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,491
- Yeah, at that time,
- I remember last year.
- 614
- 00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:05,973
- Clowns are meant to be,
- you know, funny,
- 615
- 00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:10,717
- uh, running around the rodeos,
- and acting a fool,
- 616
- 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:13,807
- and at birthday parties.
- Honk, honk, honk, honk.
- 617
- 00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:17,115
- - Rena: Honk.
- - Not out trying to hurt people.
- 618
- 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,945
- Scaring children.
- They could grow up...
- 619
- 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,427
- being traumatized
- by something like that.
- 620
- 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,083
- Not only liking clowns, but just
- 621
- 00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:33,348
- - not trusting people and stuff.
- - I need to grab me something.
- 622
- 00:35:42,966 --> 00:35:45,621
- Rena: I just had a nightmare
- last night.
- 623
- 00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:46,622
- Hello.
- 624
- 00:35:47,449 --> 00:35:49,451
- My dad got...
- 625
- 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:55,240
- killed by Wrinkles and he, like,
- locked him up
- 626
- 00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,720
- in a basement or something.
- 627
- 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,725
- If I would have found him,
- I'm for real...
- 628
- 00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:07,121
- I'll see how he likes it
- in the basement.
- 629
- 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,081
- Hi, baby.
- 630
- 00:36:16,391 --> 00:36:18,350
- I've been trying to get her
- to lay on her back.
- 631
- 00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:26,445
- There she goes.
- 632
- 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,578
- She was laying on her back.
- 633
- 00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:35,149
- I also think Wrinkles wants
- to have fun...
- 634
- 00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:38,196
- but it's not working...
- 635
- 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,809
- because he's killing kids.
- 636
- 00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:50,686
- Rena: He took a little kid home
- and killed him...
- 637
- 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,781
- and probably made artwork with blood all over the wall.
- 638
- 00:37:06,746 --> 00:37:09,444
- Girl: No.
- 639
- 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:31,466
- Girl: I'm here.
- 640
- 00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:46,568
- Wrinkles: Well, Florida's just
- basically a fucking giant swamp
- 641
- 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:48,788
- with houses, you know,
- like, just strung about,
- 642
- 00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:51,094
- a lot of shopping,
- a lot of, uh...
- 643
- 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,314
- a lot of stores
- that nobody needs.
- 644
- 00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:55,577
- Yeah, it's beautiful,
- don't get me wrong,
- 645
- 00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:57,797
- but it's just, you know,
- I'm not doing the golf
- 646
- 00:37:57,971 --> 00:37:59,755
- and, you know, going
- to the country club
- 647
- 00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:01,888
- and things like that, you know. I just... that's just...
- 648
- 00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,064
- I never really fit into
- that kind of lifestyle.
- 649
- 00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:26,913
- Wrinkles: Yeah. I don't really
- do the strip club
- 650
- 00:38:27,174 --> 00:38:29,785
- as much as I'd like to. Costs a lot of money, you know.
- 651
- 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,488
- It gets harder and harder
- as you get older.
- 652
- 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:39,055
- Then you start getting lonely, you know, sometimes I dream
- 653
- 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:42,015
- about maybe having a girl to settle down with, you know?
- 654
- 00:38:42,232 --> 00:38:44,713
- What am I gonna do? Have them come back to the van?
- 655
- 00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:52,199
- I just wanna go out there
- and have some fun,
- 656
- 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,419
- and, you know,
- I'll do something different.
- 657
- 00:38:57,117 --> 00:38:59,293
- Sometimes I go home
- and I feel good about it.
- 658
- 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,991
- It's kind of rewarding
- in a way, you know,
- 659
- 00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:04,037
- and it kinda makes it worth
- all the bullshit.
- 660
- 00:39:05,821 --> 00:39:08,258
- But sometimes I can just
- close my eyes in the mask
- 661
- 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:09,695
- and just get in my own head.
- 662
- 00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:31,717
- Woman: She's got her excited
- 'cause she doesn't know.
- 663
- 00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,023
- - Girl: Yeah.
- - Woman: You won. That's good.
- 664
- 00:39:34,197 --> 00:39:35,677
- - Girl: I know.
- - Woman 1: That's...
- 665
- 00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,244
- - Woman 2: Guys?
- - Woman 1: No. You won
- 666
- 00:39:37,418 --> 00:39:38,724
- - the money.
- - Woman 2: What's outside?
- 667
- 00:39:38,898 --> 00:39:39,986
- - Woman 1: What?
- - Man: Huh?
- 668
- 00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:41,248
- Woman 2: There's
- something outside.
- 669
- 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,771
- Man: Huh?
- 670
- 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,643
- Woman 2: I swear there's
- something outside.
- 671
- 00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:46,949
- - Man: What the fuck?
- - Woman 1: What?
- 672
- 00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:48,777
- Man: Oh, my God.
- Oh, God, God.
- 673
- 00:39:52,085 --> 00:39:54,783
- - Woman 2: Stop! Do something.
- - Man: Oh, my God!
- 674
- 00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:58,570
- - Woman 2: Stop, stop, stop!
- 675
- 00:39:58,918 --> 00:40:00,963
- - Man: Wait.
- 676
- 00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:19,155
- I'd probably have
- a heart attack over that.
- 677
- 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:30,776
- Yeah. That would scare me
- to death.
- 678
- 00:40:31,037 --> 00:40:34,301
- He was sitting on the table,
- one evening, right after supper,
- 679
- 00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,085
- and started calling him.
- You know, I was afraid
- 680
- 00:40:36,259 --> 00:40:37,652
- he was gonna
- give him information
- 681
- 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,176
- and him come here, and,
- you know,
- 682
- 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,963
- you hear all those bad stories
- and... It was scary at first.
- 683
- 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:46,444
- Remember when I had to take out
- my box spring...
- 684
- 00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:48,010
- - Mm-hmm.
- - ...because I got
- 685
- 00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,317
- real creeped out when I saw
- the video of him coming out.
- 686
- 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,014
- - Mm-hmm
- - So we put it under your bed.
- 687
- 00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:55,278
- If he's under your bed,
- you can protect yourself.
- 688
- 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:56,323
- Yeah.
- 689
- 00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,067
- The reason I'm not scared
- of Wrinkles anymore
- 690
- 00:41:01,284 --> 00:41:04,374
- is just I learned how to, like,
- be okay with it.
- 691
- 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:07,160
- It's like I basically
- got scared so much,
- 692
- 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:08,988
- I'm not scared anymore.
- 693
- 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:15,168
- So basically today I'm gonna be showing you the clown mask
- 694
- 00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,996
- and the little knife
- that I bought with it.
- 695
- 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,216
- This is the mask. It's gonna be
- 696
- 00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,045
- my Halloween costume
- for next year.
- 697
- 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:27,833
- Daddy, how do you do this?
- 698
- 00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:32,098
- - Oh, I know how to do it.
- - Matt: Oh, yeah?
- 699
- 00:41:32,272 --> 00:41:33,491
- Jarrett: I wanna do it.
- 700
- 00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:40,628
- - It's so tight.
- - Matt: Well... yeah, it is.
- 701
- 00:41:40,802 --> 00:41:44,153
- I see your eyes bulging
- through the holes.
- 702
- 00:41:47,069 --> 00:41:48,636
- Oh, yeah. Beautiful.
- 703
- 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,072
- Woman: Before he got
- this mask...
- 704
- 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:51,726
- Matt: It's like he turns
- into somebody else
- 705
- 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,162
- - when this thing's on.
- - Woman: I know.
- 706
- 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,123
- Jarrett: I think that
- when someone puts on a mask
- 707
- 00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,692
- or a costume, they feel like
- they can kind of
- 708
- 00:42:01,127 --> 00:42:04,434
- just be a different person.
- If there's something you wanna
- 709
- 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:06,132
- change about yourself,
- you kinda can.
- 710
- 00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:09,831
- Like if there's someone, like,
- in my school walking around,
- 711
- 00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:12,225
- they wouldn't know me.
- I could just act like
- 712
- 00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:14,793
- a completely different person
- and they wouldn't know at all.
- 713
- 00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:17,360
- It's hot in there.
- 714
- 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:33,420
- Robby: I drank a lot of it
- that night.
- 715
- 00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:35,378
- Reporter: The viral video
- shows Robby Stratton
- 716
- 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:36,815
- running through
- a convenience store
- 717
- 00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:38,556
- with an alligator in his hands.
- 718
- 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,862
- He takes the animal
- in the beer fridge as well.
- 719
- 00:42:41,036 --> 00:42:42,777
- Robby: I don't even remember
- coming up here.
- 720
- 00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,736
- Reporter: We asked Stratton where the alligator came from.
- 721
- 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,174
- Robby: No clue. No clue.
- I literally came...
- 722
- 00:42:48,348 --> 00:42:50,263
- Reporter: This Florida man
- is accused of having sex
- 723
- 00:42:50,437 --> 00:42:53,266
- with a miniature horse
- on multiple occasions.
- 724
- 00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:57,705
- Reporter: He's now being held
- in the Marion County Jail.
- 725
- 00:42:57,879 --> 00:42:59,446
- Wrinkles: I don't know
- what's next for me.
- 726
- 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:01,840
- I live day by day. This is kind of where I'm at,
- 727
- 00:43:02,014 --> 00:43:03,798
- this is what I got,
- this what I'm working with.
- 728
- 00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:07,019
- Um... I don't know.
- I'm just kind of, uh...
- 729
- 00:43:07,193 --> 00:43:09,108
- I'm just kind of living out
- my last years.
- 730
- 00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:13,591
- I don't know if there'll be a Wrinkles legacy, so to speak.
- 731
- 00:43:13,765 --> 00:43:16,463
- I think it'll just be like,
- "Hey, remember that one time
- 732
- 00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:18,639
- we called that clown?
- That was scary."
- 733
- 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,426
- Wrinkles: Yeah,
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 734
- 00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:25,646
- Boy 1: Sup yo, watcha you doin?
- 735
- 00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:27,648
- Wrinkles: Who's this?
- 736
- 00:43:29,041 --> 00:43:30,433
- Boy 1: Who this? It's your mom.
- 737
- 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:31,696
- Wrinkles: Oh, that's good one.
- 738
- 00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:32,827
- I haven't heard that one
- yet today.
- 739
- 00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:34,307
- Boy 2: Hey, Wrinkles the Clown.
- 740
- 00:43:34,481 --> 00:43:35,395
- Wrinkles: Yeah?
- 741
- 00:43:37,527 --> 00:43:38,964
- Boy 2: You have
- to scare somebody?
- 742
- 00:43:40,008 --> 00:43:41,140
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
- That's what I do.
- 743
- 00:43:44,926 --> 00:43:47,363
- It never ends. You got
- the pranks, you know,
- 744
- 00:43:47,537 --> 00:43:49,670
- but mostly it's just
- real violent stuff.
- 745
- 00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:53,805
- Woman 1: Hey I'll come down
- to fucking Florida
- 746
- 00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:55,676
- and beat your old wrinkly ass.
- 747
- 00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:58,897
- Girl: We live in a big pasture,
- and my dad has guns
- 748
- 00:43:59,201 --> 00:44:01,421
- to shoot the coyotes
- but he'll shoot you instead.
- 749
- 00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,423
- Man 1: I will piss on you
- right now.
- 750
- 00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:05,381
- Woman 2: I'll fucking
- rip your dick off
- 751
- 00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:07,122
- and fucking make you eat it.
- 752
- 00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,342
- Woman 3: I'll slap you
- with a fucking jackhammer.
- 753
- 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:11,561
- Man 2: Fucking Mexican Mafia
- coming for your ass.
- 754
- 00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:13,172
- We'll cut out
- your tongue, bitch.
- 755
- 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,261
- Boy 3: And I'll stick needles
- in your eyeballs
- 756
- 00:44:15,478 --> 00:44:17,089
- and tie you to a fucking tree.
- 757
- 00:44:17,524 --> 00:44:19,657
- And fucking chop off
- your fingers and fucking...
- 758
- 00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:23,051
- just fucking torture you,
- you fucking sick bastard.
- 759
- 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:26,054
- Man 3: I'mma fucking hang you u
- like fucking Vladimir Putin.
- 760
- 00:44:26,228 --> 00:44:27,708
- I'll take this fucking
- baseball bat
- 761
- 00:44:27,926 --> 00:44:29,449
- and beat
- your fucking brains in.
- 762
- 00:44:31,451 --> 00:44:32,887
- Man 4: I'mma burn
- your clown ass.
- 763
- 00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,158
- Boy 4: Kill yourself,
- Wrinkles the fucking clown.
- 764
- 00:44:44,986 --> 00:44:47,510
- Boy: If Wrinkles came
- to my house, I'll tell him,
- 765
- 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:51,210
- "I have a game for you.
- We'll just stay shoulder
- 766
- 00:44:51,384 --> 00:44:53,473
- to shoulder," and then push you
- in the water
- 767
- 00:44:53,647 --> 00:44:55,388
- with the alligators.
- 768
- 00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:10,055
- Wrinkles: It's kinda
- disheartening to hear
- 769
- 00:45:10,229 --> 00:45:12,405
- and it's...
- But at the same time, I just...
- 770
- 00:45:12,579 --> 00:45:14,929
- You know, it doesn't really
- have an effect on me anymore.
- 771
- 00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:16,539
- It's like you know,
- I'm still kicking.
- 772
- 00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:18,367
- No one's come to try
- to kill me yet.
- 773
- 00:45:19,847 --> 00:45:21,936
- You know, sometimes these kids text me and like...
- 774
- 00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:24,852
- the more I text back,
- the more they're trying to call
- 775
- 00:45:25,026 --> 00:45:27,246
- and find out more information
- or... they wanna prove
- 776
- 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,291
- to their friends I'm real.
- They're always asking me,
- 777
- 00:45:29,465 --> 00:45:32,642
- "Send me a picture of yourself.
- Send me a video. You're fake.
- 778
- 00:45:32,991 --> 00:45:34,470
- You're not real. Send me a..."
- You know?
- 779
- 00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:36,646
- It doesn't really matter
- who's behind the mask, you know?
- 780
- 00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:38,910
- Like, it doesn't matter
- who Wrinkles is.
- 781
- 00:45:39,084 --> 00:45:40,215
- Wrinkles is Wrinkles.
- 782
- 00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:47,309
- Boy 1: Who are you?
- Where did you come from?
- 783
- 00:45:47,832 --> 00:45:50,704
- - How is your life?
- - Man: I wanna know who you are.
- 784
- 00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,967
- Girl 1: Who are you,
- and why are you doing this?
- 785
- 00:45:53,228 --> 00:45:56,579
- - Boy 2: Who are you?
- - Boy 3: Who are you?
- 786
- 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,626
- Boy 4: Who are you, and can you tell me your real name please?
- 787
- 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,150
- Boy 5: You're just this weird
- old man probably.
- 788
- 00:46:02,324 --> 00:46:04,022
- Girl 2: Why do you have
- to wear a mask?
- 789
- 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:10,115
- Man: You don't know
- if he's a good person
- 790
- 00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:11,769
- or if he has bad intentions.
- 791
- 00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:14,162
- You don't know if he's trying to do this for fun
- 792
- 00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:15,773
- or trying kill you.
- 793
- 00:46:15,947 --> 00:46:17,296
- Boy: Who are you
- under that mask?
- 794
- 00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:19,428
- Who are you under that mask?
- 795
- 00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:21,474
- Can you let me see
- under that mask?
- 796
- 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:24,782
- Can I get who... who are you?
- 797
- 00:46:25,608 --> 00:46:27,001
- Cyera: When he's a clown,
- he could live
- 798
- 00:46:27,436 --> 00:46:30,222
- in the middle of a shack.
- Whenever he's a regular person,
- 799
- 00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:31,789
- he could be living
- in a big, old house
- 800
- 00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,399
- in the middle of town
- in Florida.
- 801
- 00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:35,618
- My friends have said
- that he's been working like this
- 802
- 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,056
- - for over, like, 65 years.
- - It's also funny to imagine
- 803
- 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:40,188
- that he refuses to drive
- or take cars.
- 804
- 00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,321
- He just walks around everywhere.
- 805
- 00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:47,413
- You can call him.
- He will scare people for you,
- 806
- 00:46:47,587 --> 00:46:50,111
- and he's pretty scary himself.
- 807
- 00:46:50,285 --> 00:46:52,200
- And it's sort of like
- a Bogeyman-man type, uh,
- 808
- 00:46:52,374 --> 00:46:55,508
- type situation,
- except actually existent.
- 809
- 00:46:55,682 --> 00:47:00,339
- Rena: He probably, on Halloween,
- he's like very scary,
- 810
- 00:47:00,513 --> 00:47:03,298
- but on New Year's,
- he's, like, very happy
- 811
- 00:47:04,343 --> 00:47:06,301
- because it's a new year
- to scare kids.
- 812
- 00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:09,304
- There's two people in his body.
- Multiple personality.
- 813
- 00:47:09,478 --> 00:47:11,132
- It's like bipolar disorder
- or something.
- 814
- 00:47:13,178 --> 00:47:15,223
- You could be sitting
- beside a murderer
- 815
- 00:47:15,397 --> 00:47:16,355
- and not even knowing it.
- 816
- 00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:31,734
- - Man 1: Jamie!
- - Woman 1: Jamie!
- 817
- 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,259
- - Man 2: Jamie!
- - Woman 2: Jamie!
- 818
- 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,143
- - Man 1: Jamie!
- - Woman 1: Jamie!
- 819
- 00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:51,580
- - Man 2: Jamie!
- - Woman 2: Jamie!
- 820
- 00:48:51,754 --> 00:48:54,627
- - Man 1: Jamie!
- 821
- 00:49:11,774 --> 00:49:13,124
- - Man: Yeah?
- - All right.
- 822
- 00:49:13,341 --> 00:49:14,952
- How am I gonna know
- when I'm not in frame,
- 823
- 00:49:15,126 --> 00:49:16,954
- or are you guys gonna be able
- to cut that or if you...
- 824
- 00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,651
- Man: That's all... yeah,
- it's all mic check...
- 825
- 00:49:18,825 --> 00:49:20,305
- - Don't worry about it all.
- - Okay. All right.
- 826
- 00:49:20,479 --> 00:49:21,567
- - Man: Mic will move around it.
- - Lambert: Roger.
- 827
- 00:49:30,358 --> 00:49:31,751
- - Lambert: We good?
- - Man: Yes. Action.
- 828
- 00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,158
- Wrinkles: I'm Wrinkles
- the Clown.
- 829
- 00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:50,857
- I'm not a 65 year old man.
- 830
- 00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:52,163
- - Ready.
- - Action.
- 831
- 00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:57,124
- Wrinkles: You know,
- the actor that was chosen
- 832
- 00:49:57,298 --> 00:50:00,214
- to represent the myth
- of Wrinkles under the mask,
- 833
- 00:50:00,388 --> 00:50:02,390
- I think he was a perfect match.
- 834
- 00:50:02,564 --> 00:50:05,306
- I think he embodies what Wrinkles would look like.
- 835
- 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,178
- He has wrinkles
- on all the right spots.
- 836
- 00:50:07,352 --> 00:50:09,658
- He has the gray hair.
- You know, is this guy nice?
- 837
- 00:50:09,832 --> 00:50:10,964
- Is this guy gonna murder me?
- 838
- 00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:13,010
- And that's kind of
- how Wrinkles is,
- 839
- 00:50:13,184 --> 00:50:14,185
- you don't know.
- 840
- 00:50:15,447 --> 00:50:17,492
- There's a number of reasons
- why I think it's a good idea
- 841
- 00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:20,191
- for me to keep
- my identity hidden.
- 842
- 00:50:20,495 --> 00:50:22,628
- I don't wanna make this project
- about me.
- 843
- 00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:25,457
- If people knew who was
- under the mask,
- 844
- 00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:27,763
- it would kind of
- ruin the experience.
- 845
- 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:31,158
- Besides the fact of just trying
- to preserve the mystery
- 846
- 00:50:31,332 --> 00:50:32,768
- of the Wrinkles character.
- 847
- 00:50:32,942 --> 00:50:35,293
- Wrinkles gets multiple
- death threats a day,
- 848
- 00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:38,383
- and that's fine for Wrinkles,
- that's fine for the project.
- 849
- 00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:41,473
- But I just don't need that
- in my personal life.
- 850
- 00:50:42,648 --> 00:50:44,954
- At the end of the day,
- Wrinkles is just a guy in a mask
- 851
- 00:50:45,129 --> 00:50:48,784
- and a suit, and these kids
- and these people have taken
- 852
- 00:50:48,958 --> 00:50:50,960
- the Wrinkles character
- and molded it into
- 853
- 00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:53,572
- what they want it to be.
- Some of them think he's funny.
- 854
- 00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:56,749
- Some of them think he's rude.
- Some of them think he's scary.
- 855
- 00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:58,925
- Some of them think he's fake.
- 856
- 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,016
- Some of them think he's a ghost
- or some kind of paranormal,
- 857
- 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,888
- like, apparition,
- and really left it open
- 858
- 00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,630
- to let people decide
- on their own
- 859
- 00:51:08,804 --> 00:51:10,241
- what they think about Wrinkles.
- 860
- 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:16,682
- I, never in a million years,
- thought that anybody
- 861
- 00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:18,901
- would think that Wrinkles
- is a real person.
- 862
- 00:51:19,337 --> 00:51:21,948
- Let alone that he scares
- children for money.
- 863
- 00:51:23,906 --> 00:51:24,994
- You know, I made it up.
- 864
- 00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:30,478
- But I think parents that use
- the Wrinkles' voicemail
- 865
- 00:51:30,652 --> 00:51:33,090
- as an actual
- disciplinary tactic
- 866
- 00:51:33,264 --> 00:51:35,135
- to keep their children in line
- 867
- 00:51:35,353 --> 00:51:38,965
- is kind of messed up.
- I mean, it's not something
- 868
- 00:51:39,139 --> 00:51:40,662
- that I would do as a parent.
- 869
- 00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:43,187
- Um, I think it's kind
- of psychologically damaging.
- 870
- 00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,539
- Woman: Hey, I have
- these two to three kids
- 871
- 00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:51,543
- - that don't know how to listen.
- - Boy: No.
- 872
- 00:51:51,891 --> 00:51:54,285
- Woman: We'd give you the price of 30 bucks to come scare them.
- 873
- 00:51:54,459 --> 00:51:55,634
- Boy: No.
- 874
- 00:51:55,982 --> 00:51:57,679
- Wrinkles: You know,
- it's not too far off
- 875
- 00:51:57,940 --> 00:51:59,551
- from what is kind of
- 876
- 00:51:59,725 --> 00:52:02,510
- already socially acceptable
- with telling their kids
- 877
- 00:52:02,815 --> 00:52:04,338
- that if you're
- not a good person,
- 878
- 00:52:04,512 --> 00:52:07,036
- or if you lie, if you cheat,
- you steal, you know,
- 879
- 00:52:07,254 --> 00:52:08,951
- you're going to burn in hell
- for eternity.
- 880
- 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:12,303
- You know, I think
- it's more cruel and unusual
- 881
- 00:52:12,477 --> 00:52:14,957
- than anything that Wrinkles
- has ever done
- 882
- 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:16,481
- or has ever claimed to do.
- 883
- 00:52:23,314 --> 00:52:25,229
- Wrinkles: I was always just very curious as a child,
- 884
- 00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:28,232
- and just very imaginative.
- 885
- 00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,628
- Girl 1: Okay. And you put this
- Wrinkles mask on.
- 886
- 00:52:37,328 --> 00:52:38,503
- Girl 2: Not on me.
- 887
- 00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:40,548
- Wrinkles: The clown
- under the bed
- 888
- 00:52:41,027 --> 00:52:42,594
- is just such a go-to
- 889
- 00:52:42,768 --> 00:52:46,424
- for anyone to think of
- because of how iconic it is
- 890
- 00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:49,601
- going back to the Poltergeist
- clown under the bed kinda thing.
- 891
- 00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:51,690
- I remember, as a kid,
- getting a head start
- 892
- 00:52:51,864 --> 00:52:53,518
- and running into my bed
- because I was afraid
- 893
- 00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:55,302
- something was gonna come out
- from underneath
- 894
- 00:52:55,476 --> 00:52:56,956
- and grab my ankles
- and pull me under,
- 895
- 00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:58,305
- and that will be the end of me.
- 896
- 00:52:58,914 --> 00:53:01,265
- It is a classic kind of fear.
- 897
- 00:53:02,962 --> 00:53:04,529
- I tried getting
- in the trundle bed,
- 898
- 00:53:04,964 --> 00:53:07,923
- and I was... I was too big. We couldn't close the drawer,
- 899
- 00:53:08,794 --> 00:53:10,752
- which we all kind of
- got a chuckle out of, you know.
- 900
- 00:53:10,926 --> 00:53:13,538
- So a friend who's a little
- slimmer than I am, said,
- 901
- 00:53:13,712 --> 00:53:15,322
- "Hey, you know what,
- I could fit."
- 902
- 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,324
- "Oh All right. Well, here.
- Put the costume on.
- 903
- 00:53:17,498 --> 00:53:19,805
- And I'll get behind the camera and let's make this video."
- 904
- 00:53:21,459 --> 00:53:22,547
- Man: All right.
- Is everyone ready?
- 905
- 00:53:22,764 --> 00:53:24,375
- - Girl: Yup.
- - Man: All right.
- 906
- 00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:57,756
- Man: Action.
- 907
- 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:03,457
- Man: Action 2.
- 908
- 00:54:03,936 --> 00:54:05,242
- This video has
- 909
- 00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:06,634
- a couple elements
- to make it look
- 910
- 00:54:06,852 --> 00:54:08,941
- more like a security camera.
- 911
- 00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:11,857
- With these effects,
- you can obscure things more.
- 912
- 00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:14,512
- And I felt like that really
- helped make the video
- 913
- 00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:15,643
- more believable.
- 914
- 00:54:19,865 --> 00:54:20,735
- Wrinkles: Stop for a second.
- 915
- 00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:23,738
- Okay. Doing good.
- 916
- 00:54:29,962 --> 00:54:31,006
- This time you're not gonna,
- like, do...
- 917
- 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:32,356
- Just gonna kinda look at her.
- 918
- 00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:33,835
- You're not gonna
- do anything, though.
- 919
- 00:54:34,009 --> 00:54:35,402
- You don't wanna do anything
- too creepy.
- 920
- 00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:36,360
- Maybe put a doll next to her
- or something.
- 921
- 00:54:40,538 --> 00:54:42,540
- Mm-hmm. Get out.
- Start looking around.
- 922
- 00:54:48,154 --> 00:54:49,242
- All right, stop.
- 923
- 00:54:49,895 --> 00:54:52,898
- What if we just had him
- grab the camera, disable it,
- 924
- 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,204
- and then you get to use
- your imagination
- 925
- 00:54:55,379 --> 00:54:58,164
- of what happened after that.
- It leaves it open.
- 926
- 00:54:58,643 --> 00:55:02,429
- And so it makes it
- create a story.
- 927
- 00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:04,823
- A story that you're going
- to continue.
- 928
- 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:12,700
- Wrinkles: We always make
- a lot of jokes
- 929
- 00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:14,746
- about living here
- in Naples, Florida.
- 930
- 00:55:15,007 --> 00:55:16,661
- You know, people just come here to die,
- 931
- 00:55:16,835 --> 00:55:18,532
- and if you're 70 and up,
- 932
- 00:55:18,706 --> 00:55:19,968
- and you wanna play golf,
- 933
- 00:55:20,142 --> 00:55:21,840
- and you wanna
- be in competitions
- 934
- 00:55:22,362 --> 00:55:24,408
- with your neighbor
- on whose house looks nicer
- 935
- 00:55:24,582 --> 00:55:26,975
- and who drives a better car,
- then, yeah, Naples, Florida
- 936
- 00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,543
- is a great place to live.
- So I kind of love
- 937
- 00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:30,936
- that Wrinkles...
- 938
- 00:55:31,893 --> 00:55:33,199
- looked older,
- 939
- 00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:34,853
- and he kind of looked
- a little creepy.
- 940
- 00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:38,073
- And he kind of reminded me
- of my grandfather
- 941
- 00:55:38,247 --> 00:55:42,730
- who was retired, always grumpy, but hilarious
- 942
- 00:55:42,904 --> 00:55:44,993
- and always had the best jokes.
- 943
- 00:55:47,605 --> 00:55:48,649
- For the most part,
- I've always been
- 944
- 00:55:48,823 --> 00:55:50,608
- kind of quiet and kind of shy.
- 945
- 00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:53,480
- And I've never been
- in performing arts,
- 946
- 00:55:53,654 --> 00:55:55,874
- and to all of a sudden
- turn on a switch
- 947
- 00:55:56,048 --> 00:55:59,965
- and just be a personality
- that wasn't myself
- 948
- 00:56:00,487 --> 00:56:03,098
- that was kind of funny
- but kind of rude
- 949
- 00:56:03,447 --> 00:56:06,101
- and just kind of annoyed
- by children.
- 950
- 00:56:06,624 --> 00:56:09,757
- I felt like it was one of
- the biggest rushes of my life.
- 951
- 00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:14,066
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 952
- 00:56:15,633 --> 00:56:16,721
- Girl: Hello.
- 953
- 00:56:16,938 --> 00:56:18,070
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
- What do you want?
- 954
- 00:56:20,246 --> 00:56:21,595
- Wrinkles: We're gonna get
- a lot of that.
- 955
- 00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:23,205
- They can't believe
- that someone answered
- 956
- 00:56:23,423 --> 00:56:24,598
- and just kinda hang up.
- 957
- 00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:33,259
- Wrinkles: Yeah,
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 958
- 00:56:33,433 --> 00:56:35,522
- Girls: Hi, Wrinkles.
- 959
- 00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,176
- Wrinkles: Hey,
- how is it going, guys?
- 960
- 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,353
- Girl: I love your voicemail.
- It's so cool.
- 961
- 00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:42,573
- Wrinkles: Oh, yeah. That's nice.
- Thank you.
- 962
- 00:56:42,964 --> 00:56:45,097
- Boy: Dude, that voicemail
- sounds just like that.
- 963
- 00:56:45,445 --> 00:56:46,664
- Wrinkles: Well, that's my voice
- 964
- 00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:47,926
- so that would make sense,
- right?
- 965
- 00:56:49,144 --> 00:56:50,232
- - Woman: Wrinkles.
- - Wrinkles: Yeah.
- 966
- 00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:52,539
- Woman: Do you have
- a YouTube channel?
- 967
- 00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:54,280
- Wrinkles: No.
- I don't use the internet.
- 968
- 00:56:54,541 --> 00:56:56,195
- - Woman: Why?
- - Wrinkles: I don't know.
- 969
- 00:56:56,369 --> 00:56:57,849
- 'Cause I don't like
- the internet. It's too hard.
- 970
- 00:56:58,284 --> 00:56:59,807
- Girl: Are you a killer clown?
- 971
- 00:56:59,981 --> 00:57:01,156
- Wrinkles: No.
- I never killed nobody.
- 972
- 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:05,117
- Girl: You're...
- Everybody confirmed
- 973
- 00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:07,162
- that you're bad
- but I don't believe them.
- 974
- 00:57:08,207 --> 00:57:10,296
- Wrinkles: No... yeah. You know,
- a lot of people think
- 975
- 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:14,648
- - a lot of different things.
- - Girl: You're so nice.
- 976
- 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:16,998
- Wrinkles: You caught me
- on a good day.
- 977
- 00:57:18,391 --> 00:57:19,740
- - Girl: Okay, Wrinkles.
- - Wrinkles: All right.
- 978
- 00:57:19,914 --> 00:57:21,307
- - You kids be good.
- - Girl: Bye.
- 979
- 00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:23,309
- - Man: Bye.
- - Girl: Nice to meet you.
- 980
- 00:57:23,483 --> 00:57:24,745
- Wrinkles: Nice meeting you too.
- 981
- 00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,272
- Wrinkles: I feel like
- five years ago,
- 982
- 00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:33,754
- I was so much more naive
- than I am now
- 983
- 00:57:33,928 --> 00:57:36,061
- because I was actually
- really able to prove
- 984
- 00:57:36,278 --> 00:57:38,063
- a lot of things to myself.
- 985
- 00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:43,242
- You know, I put a picture,
- a name, and a phone number
- 986
- 00:57:43,416 --> 00:57:46,158
- on a sticker, and...
- 987
- 00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:48,595
- people just did whatever they wanted with it.
- 988
- 00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:50,118
- People of course
- are taking pictures of it,
- 989
- 00:57:50,292 --> 00:57:51,946
- - putting it online.
- 990
- 00:57:52,425 --> 00:57:53,905
- Wrinkles: After seeing that,
- 991
- 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,342
- hey, you know what,
- I'm gonna start bolstering
- 992
- 00:57:56,516 --> 00:57:58,170
- this online presence as well.
- 993
- 00:57:58,344 --> 00:58:02,217
- So I created the HvUseen
- Wrinkles website
- 994
- 00:58:02,391 --> 00:58:04,219
- and YouTube channel.
- 995
- 00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:05,743
- And that's when I started,
- like,
- 996
- 00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:09,050
- putting a lot more pictures
- and, you know,
- 997
- 00:58:09,224 --> 00:58:11,096
- quote, unquote
- "Wrinkles sightings".
- 998
- 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,751
- I'm trying to think if the video
- or the sticker came first.
- 999
- 00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,404
- I think the video came first.
- 1000
- 00:58:20,409 --> 00:58:24,501
- So after that, it became kind
- of fun to make Wrinkles videos.
- 1001
- 00:58:24,936 --> 00:58:27,939
- The second one was Wrinkles walking through a parking lot
- 1002
- 00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:31,595
- with a shopping cart full of junk as if he was homeless.
- 1003
- 00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,642
- And the next video is on US 41.
- I think we actually
- 1004
- 00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:37,992
- shot that video
- on the same night.
- 1005
- 00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:42,867
- Man: Hey. Huh?
- 1006
- 00:58:50,352 --> 00:58:52,180
- Wrinkles: NBC2 local news
- 1007
- 00:58:52,354 --> 00:58:53,921
- was really what kick-started
- everything.
- 1008
- 00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:57,272
- It is a thing of nightmares.
- Have you seen this clown?
- 1009
- 00:58:57,446 --> 00:58:59,797
- Julia: Meet Southwest Florida's
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 1010
- 00:58:59,971 --> 00:59:01,799
- Wrinkles: People pay me to go
- scare their friends.
- 1011
- 00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,845
- People pay me to go dance
- at their parties.
- 1012
- 00:59:05,672 --> 00:59:08,414
- You know, that kind of things.
- Bar Mitzvahs and whatnots.
- 1013
- 00:59:08,806 --> 00:59:11,504
- Wrinkles: All that content
- was already in place.
- 1014
- 00:59:11,678 --> 00:59:13,985
- So it was just so easy
- for them to put 'em together
- 1015
- 00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,423
- and make this, like,
- fantastic story.
- 1016
- 00:59:17,597 --> 00:59:19,773
- Reporter: ...an internet hit.
- A Google Plus account
- 1017
- 00:59:19,947 --> 00:59:21,601
- is dedicated to his sightings.
- 1018
- 00:59:21,906 --> 00:59:23,385
- Wrinkles: That created
- an opportunity for people
- 1019
- 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,910
- to say, "Why is this man
- dressing up as a clown?
- 1020
- 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,695
- What is he doing?
- Why does he keep doing it?"
- 1021
- 00:59:30,436 --> 00:59:31,219
- Man: Oh, my God.
- 1022
- 00:59:32,264 --> 00:59:33,918
- Wrinkles: Once it hit
- The Washington Post,
- 1023
- 00:59:34,135 --> 00:59:35,572
- then it just kind of
- snowballed after that.
- 1024
- 00:59:35,746 --> 00:59:37,095
- It's actually
- the first clown ever
- 1025
- 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,227
- that can't get other clowns
- to squeeze into a car with him.
- 1026
- 00:59:39,401 --> 00:59:40,881
- They're like, "No. You know,
- you're a little bit too creepy.
- 1027
- 00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:42,230
- We're gonna walk."
- 1028
- 00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:44,493
- Woman: The man inside the mask
- is a 65-year-old
- 1029
- 00:59:44,755 --> 00:59:47,932
- Rhode Island transplant who got sick of making balloon animals
- 1030
- 00:59:48,236 --> 00:59:51,718
- and has moved more towards a menacing "See this balloon,
- 1031
- 00:59:51,936 --> 00:59:53,241
- kid? It's your head"
- 1032
- 00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:54,808
- before popping it
- kind of a clown.
- 1033
- 00:59:55,069 --> 00:59:56,593
- Like happy birthday, Suzie.
- 1034
- 00:59:56,767 --> 00:59:59,160
- Well, we got you a gift
- that will haunt you forever.
- 1035
- 00:59:59,726 --> 01:00:02,120
- Wrinkles: Watching Jimmy Fallon
- make fun of Wrinkles,
- 1036
- 01:00:02,424 --> 01:00:04,383
- I'm like, "Oh, my God.
- I can't believe that this
- 1037
- 01:00:04,862 --> 01:00:06,777
- actually went as far as it did.
- 1038
- 01:00:10,432 --> 01:00:12,478
- I think a lot of people
- started recognizing
- 1039
- 01:00:12,652 --> 01:00:14,175
- that whoever this
- Wrinkles the Clown is,
- 1040
- 01:00:14,436 --> 01:00:16,438
- he's getting a lot of attention,
- and I'd like to get
- 1041
- 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:17,788
- some of that attention too
- 1042
- 01:00:17,962 --> 01:00:19,354
- and I'm gonna dress up
- like a clown
- 1043
- 01:00:19,528 --> 01:00:21,139
- and go in the woods
- and scare my friends.
- 1044
- 01:00:21,487 --> 01:00:23,663
- Anchor: Disturbing report out of Greenville, South Carolina
- 1045
- 01:00:23,881 --> 01:00:25,970
- in a neighborhood there.
- People living there say
- 1046
- 01:00:26,187 --> 01:00:29,364
- a clown is trying to lure
- children into the woods.
- 1047
- 01:00:29,538 --> 01:00:31,540
- Boy: Right there at that tree
- back there.
- 1048
- 01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,499
- Anchor: They say he uses
- money and candy
- 1049
- 01:00:33,673 --> 01:00:34,979
- to get children's attention.
- 1050
- 01:00:35,153 --> 01:00:37,808
- I thought my child was,
- you know, seeing things.
- 1051
- 01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:40,811
- The next day I had
- about 30 kids come up to me
- 1052
- 01:00:40,985 --> 01:00:42,726
- and say, "Did you see the clowns
- in the woods?"
- 1053
- 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,945
- I'm over here to make sure
- we get a full understanding
- 1054
- 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,600
- of what is law enforcement doing
- because we have around
- 1055
- 01:00:47,774 --> 01:00:49,428
- two to three hundred children
- out here.
- 1056
- 01:00:49,602 --> 01:00:53,650
- We were working some overtime
- squads to patrol in areas
- 1057
- 01:00:53,824 --> 01:00:56,217
- where we thought
- that we would see
- 1058
- 01:00:56,391 --> 01:00:57,958
- a potential clown sighting.
- 1059
- 01:00:58,393 --> 01:01:00,744
- What was different
- about this situation
- 1060
- 01:01:00,918 --> 01:01:05,531
- was the viral nature
- of the social media.
- 1061
- 01:01:08,142 --> 01:01:09,622
- - Anchor 1: Clowns in the...
- - Anchor 2: Clown sightings...
- 1062
- 01:01:10,101 --> 01:01:12,190
- Anchor 3: Clowns terrorizing
- a town in South Carolina.
- 1063
- 01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:14,627
- Woman 1: Greenville County 911.
- 1064
- 01:01:14,845 --> 01:01:16,194
- What is the location
- of your emergency?
- 1065
- 01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:18,587
- Woman 2: I am reporting the,
- um... the silver clown.
- 1066
- 01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:20,328
- Woman 1: You're reporting what?
- 1067
- 01:01:20,502 --> 01:01:21,939
- Woman 2: The news about the clown that's, like,
- 1068
- 01:01:22,113 --> 01:01:23,680
- reportedly going around
- our neighborhood
- 1069
- 01:01:24,028 --> 01:01:25,725
- and kidnapping children,
- raping 'em, and killing 'em.
- 1070
- 01:01:25,986 --> 01:01:27,292
- Woman 1: Are you just calling to tell me this is in the news
- 1071
- 01:01:27,466 --> 01:01:28,510
- or do you see him out there?
- 1072
- 01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:29,816
- Woman 2: I've seen him out here
- 1073
- 01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:32,950
- Ken: I felt the fear
- would overtake us.
- 1074
- 01:01:36,083 --> 01:01:37,215
- I'm begging you.
- 1075
- 01:01:37,824 --> 01:01:40,914
- Whoever you are, clowns,
- get away.
- 1076
- 01:01:41,088 --> 01:01:42,437
- Anchor: The latest
- clown sighting
- 1077
- 01:01:42,611 --> 01:01:43,743
- happened Tuesday night at
- 1078
- 01:01:43,917 --> 01:01:45,527
- Shemwood Crossing Apartments.
- 1079
- 01:01:45,832 --> 01:01:47,878
- Woman: All we see is these men
- jumping over the fence,
- 1080
- 01:01:48,139 --> 01:01:50,402
- you know, looking at the kids,
- and then they take off running
- 1081
- 01:01:50,576 --> 01:01:53,405
- so we all run back here
- and chasing them and stuff.
- 1082
- 01:01:53,579 --> 01:01:55,755
- We've seen 'em busting through a wood right here,
- 1083
- 01:01:55,973 --> 01:01:57,670
- pulling the wood,
- and then they ran through.
- 1084
- 01:01:57,931 --> 01:02:00,020
- Man: I could see if my kid get snatched up by one of them.
- 1085
- 01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,979
- You know what I mean,
- but he's just...
- 1086
- 01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:05,809
- It's crazy, all right.
- It's real.
- 1087
- 01:02:08,028 --> 01:02:10,509
- Wrinkles: It was kind of scary
- to see where it was going
- 1088
- 01:02:10,683 --> 01:02:12,990
- because I didn't know
- if like, "Oh, shit.
- 1089
- 01:02:13,164 --> 01:02:14,774
- Did we have anything to do
- with this?"
- 1090
- 01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:17,864
- Before you know it, you have
- this creepy clown phenomenon.
- 1091
- 01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:20,171
- Anchor: Since then,
- sightings keep increasing.
- 1092
- 01:02:20,345 --> 01:02:22,260
- Those creepy clowns
- are making headlines
- 1093
- 01:02:22,434 --> 01:02:23,609
- from coast to coast.
- 1094
- 01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:26,046
- Anchor 2: Flomaton, Montgomery,
- Moundville, Brighton, Irondale,
- 1095
- 01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:28,179
- Rainbow City, Anniston.
- It's happening everywhere.
- 1096
- 01:02:28,353 --> 01:02:29,963
- Anchor 3: It started
- in South Carolina.
- 1097
- 01:02:30,224 --> 01:02:31,312
- - Now it's up here.
- - Man: I'm just freaking out
- 1098
- 01:02:31,486 --> 01:02:33,140
- 'cause I'm going
- all over Instagram
- 1099
- 01:02:33,358 --> 01:02:35,926
- and all I see is, "Oh, clowns,
- clowns, clowns," you know?
- 1100
- 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,275
- Man: Nobody knows how
- to defend against it
- 1101
- 01:02:37,449 --> 01:02:38,798
- because we don't know
- if it's a prank
- 1102
- 01:02:38,972 --> 01:02:40,452
- or if they're really trying
- to harm people.
- 1103
- 01:02:40,626 --> 01:02:42,019
- Wrinkles: Now, kids
- are carrying around machetes
- 1104
- 01:02:42,193 --> 01:02:43,977
- with clown masks on
- and things like that.
- 1105
- 01:02:44,151 --> 01:02:45,674
- Reporter: Police Chief
- Kenny Hampton said
- 1106
- 01:02:45,892 --> 01:02:47,764
- he saw a clown
- carrying a machete.
- 1107
- 01:02:48,329 --> 01:02:49,722
- He's subject to get shot.
- 1108
- 01:02:49,896 --> 01:02:51,202
- Reporter: A clown attacked you
- here tonight
- 1109
- 01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:52,377
- and cut you with a knife?
- 1110
- 01:02:52,594 --> 01:02:54,161
- - Yeah.
- - How scared were you?
- 1111
- 01:02:54,683 --> 01:02:57,164
- I was, like, a lot scared.
- 1112
- 01:02:57,382 --> 01:02:59,036
- Reporter: He used
- his selfie stick
- 1113
- 01:02:59,384 --> 01:03:00,994
- to hit the clown who then
- disappeared into the woods.
- 1114
- 01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,301
- Man: Sir, I was not scaring.
- I promise you.
- 1115
- 01:03:03,475 --> 01:03:05,042
- I was not scaring nobody.
- 1116
- 01:03:05,216 --> 01:03:08,393
- I'm a kid, and I'm afraid
- that... that the clowns
- 1117
- 01:03:08,567 --> 01:03:10,134
- are gonna kidnap me.
- 1118
- 01:03:10,351 --> 01:03:12,701
- You can't be too cautious
- when it comes to kids.
- 1119
- 01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,487
- You can definitely...
- Especially with shootings,
- 1120
- 01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:16,836
- you know, and this weird
- clown thing.
- 1121
- 01:03:17,402 --> 01:03:19,883
- Wrinkles: God forbid a kid ever
- shows up with a bomb
- 1122
- 01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:22,320
- or with a machete
- in a clown suit
- 1123
- 01:03:22,494 --> 01:03:24,148
- and starts hacking people up
- at a school
- 1124
- 01:03:24,322 --> 01:03:27,064
- or anything like that.
- And, especially, if they ever
- 1125
- 01:03:27,238 --> 01:03:28,500
- blamed it on Wrinkles,
- 1126
- 01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:30,154
- that would make me
- feel terrible.
- 1127
- 01:03:30,328 --> 01:03:31,938
- - I am a nervous wreck.
- - Woman: The fact that
- 1128
- 01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:33,722
- there was a threat
- of a shooting at the school,
- 1129
- 01:03:33,897 --> 01:03:35,376
- and not just one of the schools,
- it was all three of them.
- 1130
- 01:03:35,550 --> 01:03:36,943
- Anchor: The most serious
- incident so far though,
- 1131
- 01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:38,423
- has been the death
- of a 16-year-old
- 1132
- 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,033
- in Reading, Pennsylvania.
- 1133
- 01:03:40,207 --> 01:03:44,733
- It's extremely alarming
- about what's going on
- 1134
- 01:03:44,908 --> 01:03:47,606
- right now in the United States.
- 1135
- 01:03:50,739 --> 01:03:52,350
- Woman: What the fuck
- is happening?
- 1136
- 01:03:52,524 --> 01:03:54,395
- - Man: I don't know.
- - Reporter: After rumors spread
- 1137
- 01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:56,223
- on the Penn State Campus,
- Tuesday morning,
- 1138
- 01:03:56,397 --> 01:03:57,921
- that clowns
- were spotted nearby,
- 1139
- 01:03:58,095 --> 01:03:59,487
- over 500 students
- 1140
- 01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,141
- took to the streets
- to find them.
- 1141
- 01:04:01,402 --> 01:04:03,883
- All: Fuck that clown!
- Fuck that clown!
- 1142
- 01:04:04,057 --> 01:04:06,146
- Fuck that clown!
- Fuck that clown!
- 1143
- 01:04:06,625 --> 01:04:08,235
- Fuck that clown!
- 1144
- 01:04:09,106 --> 01:04:10,716
- Wrinkles: I definitely
- took a step back,
- 1145
- 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,720
- but once I saw the power
- of throwing an idea out
- 1146
- 01:04:14,894 --> 01:04:17,723
- and having people
- grab onto that idea
- 1147
- 01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:20,813
- and react to it, I figured,
- "Here's an opportunity
- 1148
- 01:04:20,987 --> 01:04:23,903
- - to really learn some things."
- 1149
- 01:04:26,775 --> 01:04:28,038
- Wrinkles: You know, I would
- put my phone down
- 1150
- 01:04:28,212 --> 01:04:29,822
- and walk away for an hour
- and come back,
- 1151
- 01:04:29,996 --> 01:04:31,955
- and there would be, like,
- thousands of notifications,
- 1152
- 01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:33,782
- and my phone was dying
- 'cause it just couldn't keep up
- 1153
- 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,438
- with all of the text messages
- and voicemails.
- 1154
- 01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:40,398
- They were calling
- with their concerns.
- 1155
- 01:04:40,572 --> 01:04:42,052
- They were calling
- with their hatred.
- 1156
- 01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:44,532
- They were calling
- with their absolute acceptance.
- 1157
- 01:04:45,838 --> 01:04:48,014
- What does this tell us
- about different people
- 1158
- 01:04:48,188 --> 01:04:49,276
- and how they
- process information,
- 1159
- 01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:50,712
- how they view it on the media,
- 1160
- 01:04:51,017 --> 01:04:52,323
- how they view it
- on social media,
- 1161
- 01:04:53,019 --> 01:04:54,760
- or just the ideas that they made up in their head
- 1162
- 01:04:54,934 --> 01:04:57,284
- just seeing a sticker
- in a light pole, you know.
- 1163
- 01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:59,243
- What did their imagination
- dream up?
- 1164
- 01:05:03,682 --> 01:05:06,511
- Jarrett: This one is one
- of my top favorites.
- 1165
- 01:05:08,121 --> 01:05:11,472
- It says "Would you rather
- die or die."
- 1166
- 01:05:12,125 --> 01:05:13,735
- And I thought that would just be
- 1167
- 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:15,912
- kind of funny and creepy
- at the same time.
- 1168
- 01:05:21,265 --> 01:05:22,875
- Jarrett: So the top of his head.
- 1169
- 01:05:33,886 --> 01:05:36,280
- Just... Kinda like this.
- 1170
- 01:05:38,282 --> 01:05:40,588
- Rena: You're trying to make it
- not look perfect.
- 1171
- 01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:46,072
- The end goal is to make yourself
- look like a clown.
- 1172
- 01:05:47,291 --> 01:05:49,771
- Rena: I put on clown makeup
- to scare people.
- 1173
- 01:05:51,382 --> 01:05:53,253
- Then you're just gonna
- put in on your nose.
- 1174
- 01:06:16,102 --> 01:06:18,931
- I need red lipstick.
- I'll be right back.
- 1175
- 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,586
- Sean: Once I found out
- about Wrinkles, you know,
- 1176
- 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,502
- I started having other ideas
- for clown videos.
- 1177
- 01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,592
- So we got makeup and then
- we just basically
- 1178
- 01:06:27,766 --> 01:06:29,202
- wanted close stuff
- and, like, running
- 1179
- 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:30,464
- and, like, trying to scare.
- 1180
- 01:06:31,552 --> 01:06:32,945
- I feel like my videos
- 1181
- 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:34,903
- are a reflection
- of my personality.
- 1182
- 01:06:35,078 --> 01:06:37,602
- Like, I don't try to act goofy. I just like to make videos
- 1183
- 01:06:37,776 --> 01:06:40,039
- that, like, make me happy,
- make me laugh.
- 1184
- 01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:49,701
- Found some.
- 1185
- 01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,011
- - Rena: The crazy lady is back.
- - The way it started out,
- 1186
- 01:06:55,185 --> 01:06:56,751
- she would just try
- to put on makeup
- 1187
- 01:06:56,925 --> 01:06:59,232
- 'cause everybody else
- was putting on makeup.
- 1188
- 01:07:00,233 --> 01:07:01,191
- But, uh...
- 1189
- 01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:04,194
- she would make herself
- look like a clown.
- 1190
- 01:07:04,368 --> 01:07:07,066
- I'm like, "You are not going
- to town with me
- 1191
- 01:07:07,284 --> 01:07:09,242
- - looking like a clown."
- 1192
- 01:07:09,721 --> 01:07:10,983
- You're just gonna take it a lot.
- 1193
- 01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:15,553
- Sean: When I upload
- all my new videos,
- 1194
- 01:07:15,727 --> 01:07:17,294
- I'm excited.
- You know, I'm happy
- 1195
- 01:07:17,468 --> 01:07:18,947
- that, like,
- I've got a video done,
- 1196
- 01:07:19,122 --> 01:07:20,732
- and that I've edited it.
- 1197
- 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,343
- I feel like somewhat like
- I've accomplished something.
- 1198
- 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,433
- I do have a goal to become
- a filmmaker one day.
- 1199
- 01:07:26,868 --> 01:07:27,956
- Sean: What's your favorite food?
- 1200
- 01:07:28,522 --> 01:07:30,350
- Uh, cats.
- 1201
- 01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:36,400
- Melissa: I always had the mind
- of him playing football.
- 1202
- 01:07:36,617 --> 01:07:38,315
- I had people coming up to me
- all the time,
- 1203
- 01:07:38,619 --> 01:07:40,491
- "He could play for the Cowboys when he gets older."
- 1204
- 01:07:40,708 --> 01:07:43,494
- The doctor says he's gonna be
- 6'5'' when he's older.
- 1205
- 01:07:43,972 --> 01:07:44,843
- And...
- 1206
- 01:07:45,713 --> 01:07:46,888
- that's just not him.
- 1207
- 01:07:47,193 --> 01:07:49,935
- This is him. This is what
- he likes to do.
- 1208
- 01:07:50,936 --> 01:07:55,375
- You need to make a big dot
- on your face.
- 1209
- 01:07:56,028 --> 01:07:57,029
- Now, I'm Wrinkles.
- 1210
- 01:08:03,253 --> 01:08:04,297
- Jarrett: And now
- I'll do this too.
- 1211
- 01:08:11,696 --> 01:08:13,045
- Wrinkles: Have you talked
- to this neighbor already
- 1212
- 01:08:13,219 --> 01:08:14,699
- - or...
- - Man: No. They...
- 1213
- 01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:16,135
- - I don't really know them.
- - Wrinkles: Okay.
- 1214
- 01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:18,920
- Yeah. I mean, this kind of
- is a perfect spot.
- 1215
- 01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:22,185
- There's little bit of cover
- and it gives a little, um...
- 1216
- 01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:24,622
- you know, a little mystery.
- And it might make them
- 1217
- 01:08:24,796 --> 01:08:26,363
- - look a little bit harder.
- - Man: Sure. Sure.
- 1218
- 01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:32,804
- Wrinkles: So the family would be
- playing cards here.
- 1219
- 01:08:33,326 --> 01:08:35,937
- Sitting here, having one
- or two kids just right there.
- 1220
- 01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:37,896
- Wrinkles: Maybe you're like...
- you're filming
- 1221
- 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:39,854
- and you kind of zoom in,
- you know.
- 1222
- 01:08:40,028 --> 01:08:42,248
- You just zoom in a little bit,
- and you're like, "Oh, my God.
- 1223
- 01:08:42,422 --> 01:08:44,685
- What the fuck is that,"
- you know? Like, "Holy shit."
- 1224
- 01:08:45,033 --> 01:08:47,384
- The less you say, the better.
- Let them be the ones
- 1225
- 01:08:47,558 --> 01:08:49,342
- that react, but you'll
- still be recording,
- 1226
- 01:08:49,516 --> 01:08:51,127
- but you're gonna be
- running as well.
- 1227
- 01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,694
- They'll see floor, ceiling,
- floor, ceiling, floor, ceiling.
- 1228
- 01:08:53,868 --> 01:08:55,479
- - Man: With the camera?
- - Wrinkles: With the camera.
- 1229
- 01:08:55,653 --> 01:08:57,959
- And maybe you drop the phone
- in the hallway,
- 1230
- 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,179
- and you, you know, you let...
- 1231
- 01:09:00,397 --> 01:09:02,050
- Then we're gonna pick up
- all the audio
- 1232
- 01:09:02,225 --> 01:09:04,227
- - of the genuine reaction.
- - Oh, how great would it be...
- 1233
- 01:09:04,401 --> 01:09:06,054
- - Screaming.
- - Man: ...if she drops it.
- 1234
- 01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,621
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
- Then I could come in...
- 1235
- 01:09:08,535 --> 01:09:10,972
- Wrinkles could come in,
- see the phone,
- 1236
- 01:09:11,538 --> 01:09:14,019
- bend down, pick it up,
- end of video.
- 1237
- 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,244
- Do you wanna get some pizza
- later on?
- 1238
- 01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:23,028
- That's gonna be the code.
- 1239
- 01:09:23,246 --> 01:09:24,377
- Woman: Do you guys wanna
- go get pizza?
- 1240
- 01:09:24,551 --> 01:09:25,596
- - Yeah.
- - Man: You wanna get something?
- 1241
- 01:09:25,987 --> 01:09:27,424
- That's when you know
- that he's here.
- 1242
- 01:09:27,598 --> 01:09:28,947
- He just texted here.
- 1243
- 01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:31,167
- Wrinkles: When my timer goes off
- on my phone,
- 1244
- 01:09:31,602 --> 01:09:33,691
- then I know I'm gonna start
- doing the peek around.
- 1245
- 01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,214
- The peek around.
- 1246
- 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,087
- Did anyone see that?
- What's outside?
- 1247
- 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:41,786
- I swear there's
- something outside.
- 1248
- 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,527
- - Man: What the fuck?
- 1249
- 01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,450
- Wrinkles: I'll come in.
- I'll grab the phone.
- 1250
- 01:09:53,754 --> 01:09:54,973
- I'll hit stop.
- 1251
- 01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:58,890
- Man: Jesus Christ.
- 1252
- 01:09:59,586 --> 01:10:01,458
- Wrinkles: And then
- after that happens,
- 1253
- 01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:03,199
- - I'm booking it.
- - Man: Yeah.
- 1254
- 01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:04,374
- I'm out of here.
- 1255
- 01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:17,996
- - Wrinkles:
- 1256
- 01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,563
- You guys heard those screams,
- right?
- 1257
- 01:10:19,737 --> 01:10:21,347
- - Man: Yes.
- - Wrinkles: Holy fucking shit.
- 1258
- 01:10:21,521 --> 01:10:24,045
- One girl came back
- to see if, like...
- 1259
- 01:10:24,263 --> 01:10:25,960
- Everyone else had ran.
- I don't know who it was,
- 1260
- 01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:27,353
- but the one that came back,
- 1261
- 01:10:27,614 --> 01:10:29,486
- I think she saw me,
- like, on the porch
- 1262
- 01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:31,314
- and she fucking lost her mind.
- 1263
- 01:10:32,532 --> 01:10:34,621
- Holy shit. There's fucking cops
- all over this neighborhood.
- 1264
- 01:10:43,717 --> 01:10:45,241
- Wrinkles: I think on this one,
- I'm gonna cut it off.
- 1265
- 01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:49,680
- - Let's see.
- 1266
- 01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:56,600
- Wrinkles: I kinda love
- the abruptness of that.
- 1267
- 01:10:57,644 --> 01:10:58,993
- You know, with that, it kind of
- 1268
- 01:10:59,385 --> 01:11:00,908
- leaves more to the imagination.
- Like, "What the hell?
- 1269
- 01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:02,606
- What happened after that?
- What... You know,
- 1270
- 01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:04,869
- did Wrinkles get 'em?
- Did they get away?
- 1271
- 01:11:05,043 --> 01:11:08,264
- Did they call the cops?
- Did they..." you know, whatever.
- 1272
- 01:11:14,052 --> 01:11:15,358
- Wrinkles: I don't think
- anything I do
- 1273
- 01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:17,969
- after the Wrinkles project
- is going to have
- 1274
- 01:11:18,143 --> 01:11:19,492
- as big of an impact.
- 1275
- 01:11:20,624 --> 01:11:22,495
- But sometimes
- you surprise yourself.
- 1276
- 01:11:25,019 --> 01:11:28,806
- Maybe this is just a gateway
- into something bigger.
- 1277
- 01:11:30,721 --> 01:11:32,026
- - Yeah.
- - Man: You wanna get something?
- 1278
- 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:36,161
- - Man: The fuck is that?
- 1279
- 01:11:36,509 --> 01:11:37,902
- Benjamin: I think there is
- an element
- 1280
- 01:11:38,206 --> 01:11:41,427
- of internet troll to Wrinkles.
- He's provocative, right?
- 1281
- 01:11:41,601 --> 01:11:43,342
- He's trying to get
- a reaction out of you.
- 1282
- 01:11:43,603 --> 01:11:45,388
- Maybe it's screaming
- with laughter,
- 1283
- 01:11:45,562 --> 01:11:46,824
- maybe it's terror,
- 1284
- 01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:49,000
- maybe it's calling
- his phone number. Who knows?
- 1285
- 01:11:49,174 --> 01:11:51,611
- By calling him, you're
- essentially inviting him in
- 1286
- 01:11:51,829 --> 01:11:53,309
- into your life.
- 1287
- 01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:55,441
- Testing those boundaries
- is a part of growing up.
- 1288
- 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,444
- Boy: I'm gonna be calling
- a killer clown.
- 1289
- 01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,490
- Apparently, his name
- is Wrinkles.
- 1290
- 01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,841
- Boy: Uh, I got this number
- a hundred percent real
- 1291
- 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:05,233
- off the Internet.
- 1292
- 01:12:05,451 --> 01:12:06,931
- Jarrett: I think people
- just wanna see
- 1293
- 01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:09,934
- what would happen
- if they call the clown.
- 1294
- 01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:11,805
- - Like...
- 1295
- 01:12:12,284 --> 01:12:13,720
- maybe he would come
- to their house or something.
- 1296
- 01:12:13,938 --> 01:12:16,288
- They just wanna see
- what could happen.
- 1297
- 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:18,595
- Oh, dang.
- 1298
- 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,293
- I think the creepiest part
- is when he grabs the camera
- 1299
- 01:12:21,728 --> 01:12:23,251
- and, like, it just goes out.
- Like...
- 1300
- 01:12:23,774 --> 01:12:26,907
- I think if the girl woke up,
- it would be complete madness
- 1301
- 01:12:27,081 --> 01:12:29,736
- and, like, she would start
- screaming bloody murder.
- 1302
- 01:12:32,739 --> 01:12:33,958
- He don't have any eyeballs.
- 1303
- 01:12:36,221 --> 01:12:37,353
- How does he see?
- 1304
- 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,323
- Wrinkles: I do parties,
- children behavioral services,
- 1305
- 01:12:51,497 --> 01:12:52,846
- the whole shebang, you know,
- give me a call.
- 1306
- 01:12:53,281 --> 01:12:54,761
- Man: Are you the real one
- that gets hired
- 1307
- 01:12:55,153 --> 01:12:56,459
- to scare the shit out of kids?
- 1308
- 01:12:56,676 --> 01:12:57,808
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
- Wrinkles the Clown.
- 1309
- 01:12:57,982 --> 01:12:59,331
- - You heard of me?
- - Man: Yeah.
- 1310
- 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,420
- Wrinkles: You know, maybe
- the negative parts
- 1311
- 01:13:01,594 --> 01:13:04,728
- of Wrinkles will die off
- and maybe the fun parts
- 1312
- 01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:07,165
- - of Wrinkles will live on.
- - Boy 1: Oh, my God.
- 1313
- 01:13:07,992 --> 01:13:10,211
- - Boy 2: His name is Wrinkles.
- - Wrinkles: Sweet dreams.
- 1314
- 01:13:10,864 --> 01:13:12,692
- Wrinkles: As many people
- that hate Wrinkles
- 1315
- 01:13:12,997 --> 01:13:15,826
- and hope he dies a slow,
- horrible death,
- 1316
- 01:13:16,435 --> 01:13:18,176
- there's a lot of people
- out there that love Wrinkles
- 1317
- 01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:19,743
- and they love the character
- 1318
- 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,658
- and they like the funny parts about him
- 1319
- 01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,095
- and they like the cynical parts that they can relate to.
- 1320
- 01:13:24,269 --> 01:13:27,228
- Girl 1: I love you, Wrinkles,
- so much.
- 1321
- 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:30,406
- Girl 2: I think you're
- the number one clown.
- 1322
- 01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:34,453
- Girls: We love you. We love you.
- We love you. We love you.
- 1323
- 01:13:34,627 --> 01:13:36,020
- Girl 3: You're my role model.
- 1324
- 01:13:36,716 --> 01:13:39,327
- Boy 1: I can laugh like you,
- listen.
- 1325
- 01:13:40,154 --> 01:13:41,765
- - Girl 4: Wrinkles!
- - Wrinkles: What're you doing?
- 1326
- 01:13:41,939 --> 01:13:43,157
- Girl 5: What're you doing?
- Girl 6: High five, again.
- 1327
- 01:13:44,071 --> 01:13:45,508
- - Wrinkles: High five?
- - Girl 6: High five again.
- 1328
- 01:13:45,682 --> 01:13:46,770
- - Boy 2: Please.
- - Girl 7: High five. Thank you.
- 1329
- 01:13:46,944 --> 01:13:48,075
- Boy 2: Oh, my God.
- You're so cute.
- 1330
- 01:13:48,336 --> 01:13:49,642
- Wrinkles: Oh, God. I can't see.
- 1331
- 01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:51,557
- There's too many high fives
- going on here.
- 1332
- 01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:54,081
- - One, two, three. Wrinkles.
- - Boy: Wrinkles.
- 1333
- 01:14:03,874 --> 01:14:07,051
- Wrinkles: Our individual minds
- are such humongous places.
- 1334
- 01:14:07,225 --> 01:14:10,707
- And the places that you can go, it can be some of the darkest,
- 1335
- 01:14:10,881 --> 01:14:14,275
- deepest depths of just
- awful terribleness
- 1336
- 01:14:14,493 --> 01:14:15,712
- to some of
- the most enlightening
- 1337
- 01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:17,365
- most beautiful places.
- 1338
- 01:14:17,888 --> 01:14:21,587
- It's just interesting to see
- where people decide to go
- 1339
- 01:14:21,761 --> 01:14:23,633
- in their mind because,
- at the end of the day,
- 1340
- 01:14:23,807 --> 01:14:25,330
- they're the ones
- 1341
- 01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:26,984
- that are taking
- this very small information
- 1342
- 01:14:27,158 --> 01:14:28,507
- they know about
- Wrinkles The Clown,
- 1343
- 01:14:28,725 --> 01:14:30,204
- and decided which way
- to take it.
- 1344
- 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:31,641
- Boy: I saw your YouTube video.
- 1345
- 01:14:31,815 --> 01:14:33,251
- Wrinkles: I don't have
- a YouTube video.
- 1346
- 01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:34,470
- - What are you talking about?
- - Boy: Yeah, right.
- 1347
- 01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:50,747
- - Wrinkles: Come on.
- - Boy 1: All right.
- 1348
- 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,575
- All right. Last picture
- of the night.
- 1349
- 01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:54,098
- Wrinkles gotta go
- to the bathroom.
- 1350
- 01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:55,403
- Boy 2: Come on.
- 1351
- 01:18:03,243 --> 01:18:04,070
- Man: What?
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