9:30 AM] Kaze: Don't tell me you're actually trying to placate the retards?
[9:31 AM] Durandal: For once in your life you have got to back down and stop fighting.
[9:31 AM] Kaze: I got stabbed in the back by Sombra.
[9:31 AM] Kaze: No.
[9:31 AM] Durandal: And if that's gonna cause us to lock horns, we'll lock some fuckin' horns.
[9:31 AM] Durandal: Hate begets hate.
[9:31 AM] Durandal: And we are hating and dismissing and hating and dismissing each other. Over and over and over again.
[9:32 AM] Kaze: I talked to Sombra. Very nice the last time and all.
[9:32 AM] Kaze: Was sorry and all.
[9:32 AM] Kaze: Very good talk.
[9:32 AM] Kaze: And then he pulls this shit out of context just to hurt us.
[9:32 AM] Kaze: No.
[9:33 AM] Kaze: Sorry Justin, I'll be quiet, but don't expect me to give him a word or a hand in anything.
[9:33 AM] Durandal: If we are going to stand ourselves in a metaphorical castle towering above the community, then we have got to at least justify ourselves in having that castle beyond "I made this", even if I agree that is the core factor which grants us our rights here.
[9:34 AM] Kaze: We're being oorp screwed by a faction in the community that want's to actively fuck up the story progression just because they want?
[9:35 AM] Durandal: As for Sombra? Sombra is pissed. Now Sombra can be a bit of an elitist twat from time to time but she/he/it's not at all a bad person and goes out of his way to be kind to all. So I'm not surprised you had a nice talk with them, but that doesn't mean they felt any better afterwards. I will never, ever bend to popular opinion but I will bend over backwards to make truth and understanding paramount, because it's the right thing to do and I will always stand by that, no matter how fucking miserable a path it is.
[9:38 AM] Durandal: The only way truth and understanding and clarity are going to happen are with clear, public guidelines set in stone. Above that, the main reason I want to run a podcast or something similar is so that these people can put themselves in our shoes for a minute. Not once do they ever hear us bitch or moan. We're silent, monolithic. We shit content like we've eaten ten pounds of literary and artistic tacos the night before but as an entity with thoughts and feelings and positions we say very little.
[9:40 AM] Kaze: "avatar    Vendetta    they just said they took it and didn't give any consideration to any other opposing force or effort"
[9:40 AM] Kaze: This is what Karst sold to the community and they took it.
[9:41 AM] Durandal: The only way you do that is through transparency and transparency is a tricky thing that can easily fuck up and backfire in your face. I know that better than anyone. So you had best believe that when I say this shit I have a plan, and that it is necessary. We do not get to be the steel toed boot and iron fist here. It's us who are in charge by our right not only as the people with the will and skill to achieve our work, but also our morality through which we approach all situations. I am not asking you to participate in any such action or justify yourself to anyone, least of all me. But you don't fix a cancer with fists, and that's what we have growing.
[9:42 AM] Kaze: Then your plan is to talk to it.
[9:42 AM] Kaze: And eventually bend to accommodate, because that's their endgame.
[9:43 AM] Kaze: "Quem não chora, não mama." Portuguese saying.
[9:43 AM] Kaze: He who cries is the one that gets the milk.
[9:44 AM] Kaze: I'll leave it to the politicians.
[9:45 AM] Kaze: Because no matter what we do, we're always gonna have people pulling irp shit for oorp reasons.
[9:46 AM] Kaze: In all of this what I completely say we fucked up was interceding with CR and IMG and not let IMG get fucked by their decision.
[9:46 AM] Kaze: If IMG got fucked by their decision, it would have never reached this stage.
[9:47 AM] Kaze: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519635447798956042/559009647978086410/unknown.png

[9:47 AM] Durandal: My plan is to use a scalpel.
[9:48 AM] Kaze: Scalpel away.
[9:48 AM] Kaze: I'm going to stay away for a day or so.
[9:48 AM] Kaze: So I don't burn any shit.
[9:48 AM] Durandal: Probably for the best. Get yourself shitfaced and have a good time.
[9:49 AM] Durandal: Shit won't fall apart while you're gone.
[9:49 AM] Kaze: Ask Joey for RHA chat convo.
[9:49 AM] Kaze: That's where the bile is rising.
[9:49 AM] Durandal: I'm certain that's a vector but I doubt it's the only one.
[9:50 AM] Kaze: Anyhow.
[9:50 AM] Kaze: Good luck.
[9:50 AM] Durandal: Thanks.
[9:50 AM] Durandal: I'll need it.
[9:51 AM] Kaze: What can I say. I don't do diplo.
[9:51 AM] Kaze: I do the shooting.
[9:52 AM] Durandal: "First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire."