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- Ingoš - Yesterday at 19:51
- https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395051236732436480/448181154781200394/image.png [[was an image in the original message]]
- Yāall
- GOAT^3 - Yesterday at 19:53
- uh
- news flash
- GOAT^3 - Yesterday at 20:00
- caustation does not imply correlation
- if p imply q, then it is not always true the q implies p(edited)
- takumi - Yesterday at 21:54
- what
- i cant tell if youre defending the post or against it
- Mod Luna - Yesterday at 21:56
- ^
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:37
- I mean
- The only part I rlly agree w is that I mean... i dont know if bullying is always the issue
- But I just saw it on face book like ???
- I dont know how to feel so if youāre curious thereās that
- Qro the Cursed - Yesterday at 22:38
- I personally feel that bullying can be a factor in some cases.
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:38
- Yea me too
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:39
- i was talking about what goat said
- i agree with the whole post
- straight white boys are basically the absolute worst
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:40
- Exactly
- Hey cna b rlly self entitled lol
- Like I know a lotttt
- Mod Mars - Yesterday at 22:41
- most of my expirences with Straight White Boys have been really negative
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:41
- ntm girls who bully are usually worse than boys, and their victims are usually other girls. and yet, you don't see girls doing this shit. mostly bc girls are taught to internalize their anger or pain and take it out on themselves
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:41
- I mean. I live w nothing but straight white men who r conservatives in my house so(edited)
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:42
- vs boys who are taught its justifiable to attack others to get what you want
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:43
- But yea people blame shootings on mentally illed and trans lgbt+ people like
- People in this other discord r like we need to control lgbt and mental ill
- Like what
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:45
- what type of server
- would say that
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:45
- a server abt a sonic game of course though bc those gross gamer kids
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:45
- whats their demographic
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:46
- No clue I donāt want to ask
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:47
- they dont have like intros i always find servers like that sketchy
- bc it usually means cishet white men
- i.e. evil
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:48
- No
- You just join and
- Talk abt sonic I guess
- I just like talking about chao but if u bring up political issues it gets so gross
- Itās kinda toxic
- Everyone has the same opinion and imo it sucks
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:48
- who knew sonic was so nasty
- Ingoš - Yesterday at 22:49
- Ok but someoneās nickname is literally black night and they have a anonymous mask pfp lol
- Itās not sonic itās the ppl who like sonic the whole āgame communityā can suck
- takumi - Yesterday at 22:49
- sounds awful
- i dont really interact with anyone like that and im not afraid to throw down abt stuff like that so i would self destruct
- GOAT^3 - Yesterday at 23:38
- you know my stance(edited)
- i'm probably not going to support a position where i'm essentially shooting myself in the foot
- 22 May 2018
- takumi - Today at 00:15
- i dont know your stance actually
- Tater TatsBOT - Today at 00:15
- :up: | remi (sesshomarufucker69) leveled up!
- takumi - Today at 00:16
- if you could elaborate(edited)
- bc it sounds like youre saying the part about straight white boys is wrong
- so i'm asking for clarification
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:22
- my stance is that these people are wrong in the head
- there's nothing to do with them being in a specific sect of society
- takumi - Today at 00:23
- ok that right there is ableist
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:23
- hold up
- what i'm saying is not that they're mentally disabled
- but they're so extreme in their thinking that they would even begin to consider doing such a thing
- takumi - Today at 00:24
- yea because of: privilege
- social conditioning
- straight white boys are conditioned into feeling entitlement, self-glorifying and aggression
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:25
- these are select individuals that reflect none of the group that they belong to
- takumi - Today at 00:25
- ok see this is that "not all men" mindset
- which is asinine
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:26
- why do you insuate that all men are demons?
- takumi - Today at 00:26
- you're too focused on defending a group of oppressors
- hey dont insult demons like that
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:27
- ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
- then i guess we have no room for argument
- have a good day
- takumi - Today at 00:27
- are you that unwilling to acknowledge youre an active oppressor
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:28
- please do not ask these loaded questions
- takumi - Today at 00:28
- bc you, the oppressor, are telling the people you actively oppress "hey im not like them!" while continuing tobe like that
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing
- Tone policing
- Tone policing (also tone trolling, tone argument and tone fallacy) is an ad hominem and antidebate appeal based on genetic fallacy. It attempts to detract from the validity of a statement by attacking the tone in which it was presented rather tha...
- same as cis people telling trans people not to say "i hate cis people"
- same as white people saying to poc "dont say you hate ALL white people!"
- men are in the same group. men are active oppressors with privilege.
- you have privilege. your entire group is privileged.
- you were raised with privilege.
- sorry your fragile male ego cant handle it but its the truth.
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:31
- yeah
- we have no room for any meaningful debate.
- i'm sorry you feel this way.
- takumi - Today at 00:32
- so you dont believe in privilege or what :thinking:
- thats a pretty bod stance to take considering you're the only person in here with certain privileges
- and this is otherwise a group of people you actively oppress.
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:34
- I'm merely stating my own opinion on the matter.
- And I don't believe any of what I've done counts as oppression in any form.
- takumi - Today at 00:34
- well for one thing tone policing
- it doesnt matter if you mean to do it, youre STILL actively an oppressor
- white people are oppressive even if they arent members of the KKK
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:35
- I don't see how I am still an oppressor by proxy.
- takumi - Today at 00:35
- because you participate in behaviors that are oppressive.
- dude... you have privilege
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:36
- If the Americans elected Donald Trump, and you were an American, by your logic you voted for the baboon.
- Mod Luna - Today at 00:36
- Be careful of what you say goat, chances are you don't want your third strike
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:36
- Oh whatever.
- takumi - Today at 00:36
- except thats not true, because i actively voted against him. you arent actively going against oppressive behaviors
- youre complicit in them
- Qro the Cursed - Today at 00:36
- Everyone please stop fighting
- takumi - Today at 00:37
- qro i appreciate that but letting people get away with problematic actions is complacency
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:38
- So I adopt behavior like yours in an attempt to fight against the oppression?
- takumi - Today at 00:38
- ??? ideally?? you want ti fight oppression yes lmfao
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:38
- your behavior is nothing short of extreme.
- let me get that out of the way.
- takumi - Today at 00:38
- see that, thats tone policing.
- tone policing is a means to deflect attention from injustice and relocate the problem in the style of the complaint, rather than address the complaint itself
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:38
- everything is tone policing to you now.
- takumi - Today at 00:39
- no, youre more focused on my delivery, which is just not giving you gentle guidance
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:39
- injustice exists, don't get me wrong.
- takumi - Today at 00:39
- not everyone is going to hold your hand.
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:39
- and neither will you be as well.
- takumi - Today at 00:39
- see thats the thing about being a minority
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:39
- brb let me calm down.
- takumi - Today at 00:39
- no one holds your hand in the first place
- something you cant really understand.
- Mod Mars - Today at 00:41
- @ā Gayest Mod Red
- Xerna - Today at 00:41
- Society influences people to have privilege, whether we recognize it or not. You don't have to actively be discriminatory in order to have privilege (ex. People with non-ethnic names with the same credentials as someone with an ethnic name usually receiving preference for a job). Recognizing privilege and knowing when you can be complacent in it is what I think Takumi means
- Society does have its preferences
- takumi - Today at 00:42
- thats the thing, society actively values certain people
- and if you have privilege in every area
- sorry, but you are given a lot more.
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:42
- Here are my points.
- NEW MESSAGES
- GOAT^3 - Today at 00:43
- I can recognize when certain minorities are being dealt a crappier hand than others.
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