Session Start: Wed Sep 15 14:54:19 2010
Session Ident: |iR|Dervish
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> Who are you talking about getting muted recently that you dont agree with
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> I don't see any log of anyone being muted recently
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> So I'm in the dark
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> in re: On a slightly unrelated note:
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> Is there some way I can have the global mute list not apply on IRTDM and IRTDM2?
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> I tend to not agree with how some of them have been handed out in certain cases lately, and I'd rather not have to manually unmute some of my regs repeatedly just to converse with them about how their day is going when I'm on my server.
[14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> .
[14:55] <[QU]RailWolf> also.... why couldnt that have been said in PM ?
[14:55] <[QU]RailWolf> just kinda weird imo
[15:02] <|iR|Dervish> I could have said it in PM, but that wouldn't make it very binding would it?
[15:02] <|iR|Dervish> I get tired of having to unmute guys like yourdaddy and vae just to have a convo
[15:03] <|iR|Dervish> I also dont agree with a total mute of vae
[15:03] <|iR|Dervish> or how I was temp muted about a week back on t4, with no warning
[15:03] <|iR|Dervish> coulda been a fuckup, but ofc nobody would remedy it or cop to it publicly
[15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> Why dont you agree with a total mute of vae
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> so yeah.. all told, if someone needs censoring on irtdm, I'll do it by banning and letting them know I did it
[15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> He gets on the servers just to start trouble
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> thats one opinion
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> the other is that he's one of the most active players on TS
[15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> thats a collective opinion
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> well the collective can shove that opinion
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> if its going to affect my servers
[15:04] <|iR|Dervish> which it will
[15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
[15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> I didn't know yourdaddy was muted?
[15:05] <|iR|Dervish> hes got a temp mute
[15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> Vae deserves a mute
[15:05] <|iR|Dervish> hes had to rename spam for months now
[15:05] <|iR|Dervish> just to talk
[15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> I dont care what you say
[15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> its been a long time coming
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[15:06] <|iR|Dervish> thats the sort of opinion that makes me think certain people arent capable of being impartial admins
[15:06] <[QU]RailWolf> You aren't making sense now
[15:06] <[QU]RailWolf> What did yourdaddy do ?
[15:06] <|iR|Dervish> he was a mild spammer
[15:07] <[QU]RailWolf> I recall an episode where someone got butthurt over his binds
[15:07] <[QU]RailWolf> but i dont see a reason to mute for tyhat ?
[15:07] <|iR|Dervish> Ive repeatedly mentioned on the forum that his temp mute shoudl be removed or shortened in timespan
[15:08] <[QU]RailWolf> i don't understand your logic regarding vae
[15:08] <[QU]RailWolf> he can still play on the servers... but now he cant troll
[15:08] <|iR|Dervish> question for you: if you were running a server would you want people who are not known to you, and who choose to be anonymous, to have partial control over what goes on there?
[15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> Well I don't know what your day-to-day is dervish
[15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> but ours includes trolling by vae EVERY DAY
[15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> and his server comments are posted privately
[15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> every day
[15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> and its always the same thing
[15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> 'you whore this' 'you suck that'
[15:10] <|iR|Dervish> anytime you want to answer my question, feel free
[15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> i dont get the question
[15:10] <|iR|Dervish> the question is simple
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> do you want people that you do not know, and by extension do not trust, to have control over a server you rent?
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> I dont
[15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> then drop wallfly
[15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> easy
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> Ive given rcon to 2 people
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> I trust them
[15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> You don't have to be on the goto list
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> lol
[15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> or the global mute list
[15:11] <|iR|Dervish> they aren't an inseperable package
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> if you want the ability to mute my regs, earn it
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> till then, leave the threats to quadz
[15:12] <[QU]RailWolf> what?
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> telling me that my only option is to drop goto and wallfly
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> lol
[15:12] <[QU]RailWolf> Why are you so hostile
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> when its none of your fucking business
[15:12] <|iR|Dervish> and youre coming here questioning me
[15:13] <|iR|Dervish> like Im in the wrong making a simple request
[15:13] <[QU]RailWolf> I did no such thing
[15:13] <|iR|Dervish> my request is simple, and has a logical backing
[15:13] <[QU]RailWolf> I'm not going to continue this conversation with your agenda
[15:13] <|iR|Dervish> you running me through a gauntlet of bullshit over it, leads me to believe that you have something at stake in keeping vae muted everywhere
[15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> You were a friend to me
[15:14] <|iR|Dervish> remember when that got shakey?
[15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> what gauntlet of bullshit ?
[15:14] <|iR|Dervish> it was when you started using admin power for things that didnt appear very impartial to me
[15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> WTF are you talking about
[15:14] * [QU]RailWolf is done here
[15:15] <|iR|Dervish> you still havent answered my question
[15:15] <|iR|Dervish> and Ive asked it twice
[15:15] <[QU]RailWolf> fuck off sir
[15:15] <|iR|Dervish> thanks for being mature
[15:15] <|iR|Dervish> and proving my point about people having partial control of my server who's motivation I do not understand or trust
[15:16] <|iR|Dervish> I'm copying quadz with this convo
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> your welcome
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> good luck with that
[15:16] <|iR|Dervish> maybe I'll just make a thread
[15:16] <|iR|Dervish> :)
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
[15:16] <|iR|Dervish> why PM so you can deny it?
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> vae has a long time mute coming
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> <|iR|Dervish> I could have said it in PM, but that wouldn't make it very binding would it?
[15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> that answered why it couldnt be handled in PM
[15:17] <[QU]RailWolf> deny what ?
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[15:17] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
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[15:17] <|iR|Dervish> the thrust of your part of this convo has been about vae
[15:17] <|iR|Dervish> and how YOU think he needs a mute
[15:17] <|iR|Dervish> and magically he has one now
[15:17] <|iR|Dervish> FUNNY THAT
[15:17] <[QU]RailWolf> I dont get it
[15:17] <|iR|Dervish> I dont agree with stupid censorship
[15:18] <|iR|Dervish> and when it harms my servers, I will state it
[15:18] <[QU]RailWolf> How is vae being muted going to harm your server
[15:18] <[QU]RailWolf> if anything it will help it
[15:18] <|iR|Dervish> he plays there regularly
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> he wont if he cant talk to people
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> and your idea of "help" is stupid
[15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> on top of not having anything to do with my server
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> because you arent an admin of it
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> I DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR MY SHIT
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> not you
[15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> Well I see you are just running through your own bullshit again
[15:19] <|iR|Dervish> not some pansy ass admins who hide behind the anonymity of the net
[15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> If you want the mute list removed it can be done
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> no SHIT
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> I fucking know that
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> and you act like its up to me to leave the TS network to fix it
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> fuck you
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> and all that shit
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> :)
[15:20] <[QU]RailWolf> still dont get it
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> ofc you dont
[15:20] <[QU]RailWolf> you are jabbering
[15:20] <|iR|Dervish> you still havent answered my question
[15:21] <|iR|Dervish> Im not paying rent so your jackass opinion of vae will override what I want on my server
[15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> the answer to the question is simple.... if i agreed with it then sure
[15:21] <|iR|Dervish> its dead simple
[15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> if not then its gone
[15:21] <|iR|Dervish> and Im jabbering?
[15:21] <|iR|Dervish> lol
[15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> yes you are
[15:21] <|iR|Dervish> what you are saying is not making sense, and all I want is a yes or no
[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> YES: I want people I dont know controlling a server I pay for
[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> NO: I dont want that
[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> pretty fucking simple
[15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> ok dervish
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[15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> Just rememeber this is the end of the road for our friendship
[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> Im not spending 240 bucks a year to spend my time unmuting people I want to talk to for no reason
[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> and lol
[15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> If you do something im not going to defend you
[15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> which has happened before
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[15:22] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
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[15:22] <|iR|Dervish> my actions dont require you to defend them
[15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> great!
[15:23] <[QU]RailWolf> then we're all set
[15:23] <[QU]RailWolf> good day
Session Close: Wed Sep 15 15:23:07 2010