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  2. Session Start: Wed Sep 15 14:54:19 2010
  3. Session Ident: |iR|Dervish
  4. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> Who are you talking about getting muted recently that you dont agree with
  5. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> I don't see any log of anyone being muted recently
  6. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> So I'm in the dark
  7. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> in re: On a slightly unrelated note:
  8. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> Is there some way I can have the global mute list not apply on IRTDM and IRTDM2?
  9. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> I tend to not agree with how some of them have been handed out in certain cases lately, and I'd rather not have to manually unmute some of my regs repeatedly just to converse with them about how their day is going when I'm on my server.
  10. [14:54] <[QU]RailWolf> .
  11. [14:55] <[QU]RailWolf> also.... why couldnt that have been said in PM ?
  12. [14:55] <[QU]RailWolf> just kinda weird imo
  13. [15:02] <|iR|Dervish> I could have said it in PM, but that wouldn't make it very binding would it?
  14. [15:02] <|iR|Dervish> I get tired of having to unmute guys like yourdaddy and vae just to have a convo
  15. [15:03] <|iR|Dervish> I also dont agree with a total mute of vae
  16. [15:03] <|iR|Dervish> or how I was temp muted about a week back on t4, with no warning
  17. [15:03] <|iR|Dervish> coulda been a fuckup, but ofc nobody would remedy it or cop to it publicly
  18. [15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> Why dont you agree with a total mute of vae
  19. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> so yeah.. all told, if someone needs censoring on irtdm, I'll do it by banning and letting them know I did it
  20. [15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> He gets on the servers just to start trouble
  21. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> thats one opinion
  22. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> the other is that he's one of the most active players on TS
  23. [15:04] <[QU]RailWolf> thats a collective opinion
  24. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> well the collective can shove that opinion
  25. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> if its going to affect my servers
  26. [15:04] <|iR|Dervish> which it will
  27. [15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
  28. [15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> I didn't know yourdaddy was muted?
  29. [15:05] <|iR|Dervish> hes got a temp mute
  30. [15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> Vae deserves a mute
  31. [15:05] <|iR|Dervish> hes had to rename spam for months now
  32. [15:05] <|iR|Dervish> just to talk
  33. [15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> I dont care what you say
  34. [15:05] <[QU]RailWolf> its been a long time coming
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  36. [15:05] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
  37. [15:05] |iR|Dervish on #Tastyspleen-Live #tastyspleen @#q2c @#ir +#btf
  38. [15:05] |iR|Dervish using Germany.EnterTheGame.Com ETG`s German Server
  39. [15:05] |iR|Dervish End of /WHOIS list.
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  41. [15:06] <|iR|Dervish> thats the sort of opinion that makes me think certain people arent capable of being impartial admins
  42. [15:06] <[QU]RailWolf> You aren't making sense now
  43. [15:06] <[QU]RailWolf> What did yourdaddy do ?
  44. [15:06] <|iR|Dervish> he was a mild spammer
  45. [15:07] <[QU]RailWolf> I recall an episode where someone got butthurt over his binds
  46. [15:07] <[QU]RailWolf> but i dont see a reason to mute for tyhat ?
  47. [15:07] <|iR|Dervish> Ive repeatedly mentioned on the forum that his temp mute shoudl be removed or shortened in timespan
  48. [15:08] <[QU]RailWolf> i don't understand your logic regarding vae
  49. [15:08] <[QU]RailWolf> he can still play on the servers... but now he cant troll
  50. [15:08] <|iR|Dervish> question for you: if you were running a server would you want people who are not known to you, and who choose to be anonymous, to have partial control over what goes on there?
  51. [15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> Well I don't know what your day-to-day is dervish
  52. [15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> but ours includes trolling by vae EVERY DAY
  53. [15:09] <[QU]RailWolf> and his server comments are posted privately
  54. [15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> every day
  55. [15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> and its always the same thing
  56. [15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> 'you whore this' 'you suck that'
  57. [15:10] <|iR|Dervish> anytime you want to answer my question, feel free
  58. [15:10] <[QU]RailWolf> i dont get the question
  59. [15:10] <|iR|Dervish> the question is simple
  60. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> do you want people that you do not know, and by extension do not trust, to have control over a server you rent?
  61. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> I dont
  62. [15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> then drop wallfly
  63. [15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> easy
  64. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> Ive given rcon to 2 people
  65. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> I trust them
  66. [15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> You don't have to be on the goto list
  67. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> lol
  68. [15:11] <[QU]RailWolf> or the global mute list
  69. [15:11] <|iR|Dervish> they aren't an inseperable package
  70. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> if you want the ability to mute my regs, earn it
  71. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> till then, leave the threats to quadz
  72. [15:12] <[QU]RailWolf> what?
  73. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> telling me that my only option is to drop goto and wallfly
  74. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> lol
  75. [15:12] <[QU]RailWolf> Why are you so hostile
  76. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> when its none of your fucking business
  77. [15:12] <|iR|Dervish> and youre coming here questioning me
  78. [15:13] <|iR|Dervish> like Im in the wrong making a simple request
  79. [15:13] <[QU]RailWolf> I did no such thing
  80. [15:13] <|iR|Dervish> my request is simple, and has a logical backing
  81. [15:13] <[QU]RailWolf> I'm not going to continue this conversation with your agenda
  82. [15:13] <|iR|Dervish> you running me through a gauntlet of bullshit over it, leads me to believe that you have something at stake in keeping vae muted everywhere
  83. [15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> You were a friend to me
  84. [15:14] <|iR|Dervish> remember when that got shakey?
  85. [15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> what gauntlet of bullshit ?
  86. [15:14] <|iR|Dervish> it was when you started using admin power for things that didnt appear very impartial to me
  87. [15:14] <[QU]RailWolf> WTF are you talking about
  88. [15:14] * [QU]RailWolf is done here
  89. [15:15] <|iR|Dervish> you still havent answered my question
  90. [15:15] <|iR|Dervish> and Ive asked it twice
  91. [15:15] <[QU]RailWolf> fuck off sir
  92. [15:15] <|iR|Dervish> thanks for being mature
  93. [15:15] <|iR|Dervish> and proving my point about people having partial control of my server who's motivation I do not understand or trust
  94. [15:16] <|iR|Dervish> I'm copying quadz with this convo
  95. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> your welcome
  96. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> good luck with that
  97. [15:16] <|iR|Dervish> maybe I'll just make a thread
  98. [15:16] <|iR|Dervish> :)
  99. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
  100. [15:16] <|iR|Dervish> why PM so you can deny it?
  101. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> vae has a long time mute coming
  102. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> <|iR|Dervish> I could have said it in PM, but that wouldn't make it very binding would it?
  103. [15:16] <[QU]RailWolf> that answered why it couldnt be handled in PM
  104. [15:17] <[QU]RailWolf> deny what ?
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  106. [15:17] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
  107. [15:17] |iR|Dervish on #Tastyspleen-Live #tastyspleen @#q2c @#ir +#btf
  108. [15:17] |iR|Dervish using Germany.EnterTheGame.Com ETG`s German Server
  109. [15:17] |iR|Dervish End of /WHOIS list.
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  111. [15:17] <|iR|Dervish> the thrust of your part of this convo has been about vae
  112. [15:17] <|iR|Dervish> and how YOU think he needs a mute
  113. [15:17] <|iR|Dervish> and magically he has one now
  114. [15:17] <|iR|Dervish> FUNNY THAT
  115. [15:17] <[QU]RailWolf> I dont get it
  116. [15:17] <|iR|Dervish> I dont agree with stupid censorship
  117. [15:18] <|iR|Dervish> and when it harms my servers, I will state it
  118. [15:18] <[QU]RailWolf> How is vae being muted going to harm your server
  119. [15:18] <[QU]RailWolf> if anything it will help it
  120. [15:18] <|iR|Dervish> he plays there regularly
  121. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> he wont if he cant talk to people
  122. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> and your idea of "help" is stupid
  123. [15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> :shrug:
  124. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> on top of not having anything to do with my server
  125. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> because you arent an admin of it
  126. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> I DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR MY SHIT
  127. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> not you
  128. [15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> Well I see you are just running through your own bullshit again
  129. [15:19] <|iR|Dervish> not some pansy ass admins who hide behind the anonymity of the net
  130. [15:19] <[QU]RailWolf> If you want the mute list removed it can be done
  131. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> no SHIT
  132. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> I fucking know that
  133. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> and you act like its up to me to leave the TS network to fix it
  134. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> fuck you
  135. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> and all that shit
  136. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> :)
  137. [15:20] <[QU]RailWolf> still dont get it
  138. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> ofc you dont
  139. [15:20] <[QU]RailWolf> you are jabbering
  140. [15:20] <|iR|Dervish> you still havent answered my question
  141. [15:21] <|iR|Dervish> Im not paying rent so your jackass opinion of vae will override what I want on my server
  142. [15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> the answer to the question is simple.... if i agreed with it then sure
  143. [15:21] <|iR|Dervish> its dead simple
  144. [15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> if not then its gone
  145. [15:21] <|iR|Dervish> and Im jabbering?
  146. [15:21] <|iR|Dervish> lol
  147. [15:21] <[QU]RailWolf> yes you are
  148. [15:21] <|iR|Dervish> what you are saying is not making sense, and all I want is a yes or no
  149. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> YES: I want people I dont know controlling a server I pay for
  150. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> NO: I dont want that
  151. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> pretty fucking simple
  152. [15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> ok dervish
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  154. [15:22] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
  155. [15:22] |iR|Dervish on #Tastyspleen-Live #tastyspleen @#q2c @#ir +#btf
  156. [15:22] |iR|Dervish using Germany.EnterTheGame.Com ETG`s German Server
  157. [15:22] |iR|Dervish End of /WHOIS list.
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  159. [15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> Just rememeber this is the end of the road for our friendship
  160. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> Im not spending 240 bucks a year to spend my time unmuting people I want to talk to for no reason
  161. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> and lol
  162. [15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> If you do something im not going to defend you
  163. [15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> which has happened before
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  165. [15:22] |iR|Dervish is god_empero@NIN.on.EnterTheGame.Com * Dervish
  166. [15:22] |iR|Dervish on #Tastyspleen-Live #tastyspleen @#q2c @#ir +#btf
  167. [15:22] |iR|Dervish using Germany.EnterTheGame.Com ETG`s German Server
  168. [15:22] |iR|Dervish End of /WHOIS list.
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  170. [15:22] <|iR|Dervish> my actions dont require you to defend them
  171. [15:22] <[QU]RailWolf> great!
  172. [15:23] <[QU]RailWolf> then we're all set
  173. [15:23] <[QU]RailWolf> good day
  174. Session Close: Wed Sep 15 15:23:07 2010
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