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Afterman added [SCI] Ickycoolboy to the group.02/15/2018
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Alright, so lets clear stuff up. Because im not having this dumb relaying shit.
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
Mkay
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
First off
I wanna say that if you gon use "evidence" to try and go against someone
make sure that "evidence" is actually true
manga did not leave cause of this
he left due to a completely unrelated reason
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
oh
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Exactly. That was an attempted attack
It's childish and you need to get facts straight. Anyways
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
well the timing led me to belive he left because of htis
Afterman - 02/15/2018
That is why you dont assume.
Which is a reason on my part for the demote
Multiple times of me posting chat logs between me and him of him reporting something when he is on without doing anything. Chat log above of him admitting to find a work around the tardis glitch which does crash the server. And overall lazy. (vote reason)
Quetz - 01/16/2018
can we get a rule prohibiting names starting with special characters? it messes up the warn command if you try and warn by name (Proof as to half assing and lazy, when i gave him mod i ran him through the very obvious !warns menu)


Quetz - 01/13/2018
also, can we get a rule against shooting TARDIS's (this is just common sense, he warns on rules that arent real this was just a suggestion i can get his warn list)

Along with agreement of Dert and Colonel (colonel mainly since he is active)

quetzalcoatl-chan: yo
quetzalcoatl-chan: i need ya to join
quetzalcoatl-chan: some fuck is using aimbot
quetzalcoatl-chan: STEAM_0:1:43619728
quetzalcoatl-chan: gets headshots every shot, snaps onto people
quetzalcoatl-chan: even through shit
SCI-CorvoSnow: So why cant you?
SCI-CorvoSnow: So if someone is using aimbot why dont you ban him?
SCI-CorvoSnow: Oh that's what i was thinking too. (he was on during this report)

quetzalcoatl-chan: can we like
quetzalcoatl-chan: demote rubix, he abuses his bombs to hell
SCI-CorvoSnow: I need an actual reason with proof and what their rank and steamid is
quetzalcoatl-chan: He uses nukes before the cooldown is up, he is basic donator, his steam ID is STEAM_0:1:88921126
SCI-CorvoSnow: First off there is no proof, and second that is far from a reason to demote someone
(acting rational when he does warn or take action)
Second, even if the vote poll was open still it's a 11 yes-9 no vote with multiple votes coming from the same IP address which is why i prohibit the person in regard voting and keeping it pure.
This is any chat logs to help my reasoning.
So just a heads up, they may either start leaving en mass, or they are gonna protest corvo
(He is a moderator. He needs to relax.

CallyyllaC - Today at 6:59 PM
so, i was messing around the the telekenisis e2 last night, and i was curious if you could enter the tardis while holding it with telekenisis.
(this screams crashing server, it's a huge luck out it didnt.)

he thought i was both abusing this glitch and trying to crash the server.
(As i clearly told him, the tardis glitch of putting something in it USED to crash the server, recent patch must have fixed it. Hence the ton of crashes last month)

soup also says that corvo is pretty much throwing sci away
(soup being the same one and only one to protest the echo vote, clearly he is personal no merrit to me at least)

i agree with that statement 100%. Corvo is just a lazy staff member, he only comes on when he absolutely has to. he didnt even demote me himself, he got dert and breeki to do it for him
(As i told you i have the console open 24/7 in browser i have no fun with 20fps in game so i much rather doing that hence the multiple bans blue reported)
(dert was at work? And breeky offered to Colonel "SCI" Breeky: Permission?)

also, both breeki and  corvo, once threatened a ton of people with bans. some of the largest groups of people that have sci as their home.
(refer to the steam group announcement)

This is highly alarming to us so called "RP Groups" because we fear that Corvo will eventually ban off all staff who aren't in his circle and then we will be targeted next
(tv dinner, manga (before), cinnamon, narwhal, npragland)

Manga left because of this
(Holds no merrit whatsoever its just an attempted attack)
https://puu.sh/zoLGr.png

I made sure to make it clear in the first sentence nothing will happen to the groups unless you break a major rule I.E. crashing.

To refute all you said against me, with picture proof, any people mentioned on my part can come forth as to being not close yet doing their job to stay where they are.
Quetz also almost threw someone under the bus

SCI-CorvoSnow: CallyyllaC - Today at 5:36 PM
Blue
He doesn't really like you, and I think he doesn't have icky added

This was in regards to someone on the server spamming racist remarks along with crashing the server, when quetz reported he said this making seem as if blue meant to not go to me out of spite which if it was the case that slows me doing my work leading to me being annoyed and confronting blue)
Also as i stated, if he didnt like me (which after confronting him being false) that is no reason whatsoever to delay me acting on a server crash.
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
First off, blue sent the report to me first because he trusts me more than you
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Blue Moon: not at all. i dont dislike you, i dont even mildly distrust you. i'm actually cool with you, cause you do your job
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
second off, quite a lot of this is unrelated to what you said i was demote for in the first place
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Incorrect.
My reasoning has the exact reason in parentheses
quetzalcoatl-chan: yo
quetzalcoatl-chan: i need ya to join
quetzalcoatl-chan: some fuck is using aimbot
quetzalcoatl-chan: STEAM_0:1:43619728
quetzalcoatl-chan: gets headshots every shot, snaps onto people
quetzalcoatl-chan: even through shit
SCI-CorvoSnow: So why cant you?
SCI-CorvoSnow: So if someone is using aimbot why dont you ban him?
SCI-CorvoSnow: Oh that's what i was thinking too. (he was on during this report)
Example
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
listen, corvo
sci lost the 2 most active staff in one blow just because of this
manga says the reason he left is becuase of the autism in the staff
can i bring in a witness
Afterman - 02/15/2018
This is irrelevant, we will deal with this. You've yet to refute anything i've said. Also icky said that is not the reason with manga that is irrelevant.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Witnesses are bias though, which is why its just the three of us. I didnt bring anyone and neither will you i will need you to refute anything with your own reasons and proof
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
I did proper procedure with the glitch. i discovered it, i (poorly) reported it because i was trying to see the potential for abuse, map changed, i tried to replicate it, i did, and i told (again poorly) that i managed to, i responded so poorly because i was testing out the potential of it to break the server, so i could inform you of what it does
Afterman - 02/15/2018
You're aware of glitching not being allowed and is a server rule? It's on the loading screen if im correct infact. @[SCI] Ickycoolboy will have confirm that.

Also as i stated, if that WERE true you wouldnt put
CallyyllaC - Today at 5:38 PM
AHAHAHA
I CAN REPLICATE A GLITCH I DID
CallyyllaC - Today at 5:38 PM
GETTING THE TARDIS, IN THE TARDIS

Let alone
CallyyllaC - Today at 5:38 PM
AHAHAHA
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
as i said, i reported it poorly
Afterman - 02/15/2018
I wouldnt call it a report. I'd say it was more of a "Hey by the way" sort of deal. Since if it were a real report icky would not have sent me chat logs
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
except he would have to though, if you get a report that becomes verified, you tell whoever does the bulk of the work for the server
Afterman - 02/15/2018
"except he would have to though" highly incorrect, icky is more than capable of dealing with the server on his own he's done it for years. If he did want me to deal with it, he would instead say something like "can you restrict"
But lets humor this, if that was the case you also sent this to icky

"i agree with that statement 100%. Corvo is just a lazy staff member, he only comes on when he absolutely has to. he didnt even demote me himself, he got dert and breeki to do it for him"

So it's either i am the bulk of the work, or im lazy"
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
you do the bulk of the work for the server
not on the server
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Which by the way. Do not ever call me fucking lazy unless you got some real solid proof of me not doing anything. Every single ban you see in chat is from me, same with every promote, and every demote.

I do not need to be on the server, to manage the server. This was clearly a personal attack out of spite.
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i just wanna point out, you havent played the game in so long, steam probably doesnt think you play it anymore

[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
I haven't played garrysmod
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Relevant in what way @CallyyllaC
I just said i manage the server everyday
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
meanwhile me in the past 2 weeks

[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
one does not have to be on a server to manage it
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
almost every single hour there was on sci 1
Afterman - 02/15/2018
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - Today at 11:14 PM
one does not have to be on a server to manage it
Stop
That reason has no merrit
Stop using it.
You've yet to refute any proof and reason i've given. And you keep falling back on "i reported it poorly" or this whole irrelevant time thing
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
so, my only reasoning is getting shrugged off as invalid?
Afterman - 02/15/2018
You're taking this personal which i dont understand. If it were personal i wouldnt have done a staff wide vote, which by the way was rigged but im sure you'll refuse to say what staff member leaked the vote. But also as i told icky if he thinks its unjust undo the demote, or i can hold another vote to undo the demote
"ONLY" reasoning
To my multiple reasons and proof
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
listen, corvo, you cant expect me to have a good response when i was just thrust into this out of the blue. you had time to prepare your evidence against me, but i was here, unprepared for any of this argument, and im just a deer in headlights, unable to defend myself
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
not every situation in life gon give you time to prepare(edited)
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Of course i need to prepare, if i didnt then it would be unjust and personal
So i needed reasoning and proof
Which i have and which you have nothing to say or refute
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
you throw all these accusations and opinions and don't expect a response from the person who was targeted?
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
but this is the kind of things you need time to prepare for, this is equivilant to debate format. each side needs a time to prepare
Afterman - 02/15/2018
You think i expected icky to message me during work about this saying he didnt know about it and needs reasoning?
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
also, i jsut want to point out, that aimbotter report was part of my fucking job to report it to you, in case harsher punishments needed to be taken
its also my job to report or forward reports of, server crashes, its part of the fucking job description, you cant fault me for doing my damn job(edited)
Afterman - 02/15/2018
SCI-CorvoSnow: So why cant you?
SCI-CorvoSnow: So if someone is using aimbot why dont you ban him?
You never responded. It was a clear answer as to what i expected
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
because i cant ban him for the amount of time required for the punishment as listed in the punishments.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
Maybe ban using your powers and then ask a higher level staff member if they could increase the ban time?
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Wait, so instead of banning to your limit, you leave him and expect me to do it?
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
the reason i brought it to your attention, corvo, is so you could ban him for the required ammount of time. i did ban him after you said that, but he only stayed banned for as long as i banned him
Afterman - 02/15/2018
So basically what you're saying is, you banned him when i said something about banning him?
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
which is the reason in the first place i reported him to you. its your job to enforce the rules as well. i wanted you to know about him before i banned him. i could never get his steam ID after i banned him.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
You're trying to do it again. Dont try pushing this back on me, i already took care of him. Also that is a lie because on every ban in chat it says "User__ STEAM_0: was banned for __"
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
also. will we never adress the fact that you are not innocent in any of this. remember when you gave me the roast pass in the discord without asking me. and all those times you picked on me because of my mic quality and my voice. i'd say there was a bias against me from the start of all of this. and yes this is relevant to all my arguments, as i was trial mod when this all happened.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Infact let me show you

https://puu.sh/zoN9G.png

This is printed on every ban console or not
Also the discord is entirely irrelevant, infact breeky gave you it, and we joked about your mic in Teh Bois (irrelevant).
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
if i didnt get my console spammed with errors 24/7, i would have been able to get the steam ID after i banned him. i would never have had to report the steam ID before i banned him if this wasnt a thing. i did proper procedure with the aim botter. and you are telling me i did proper procedure wrong? i brought it to the attention of the one who is supposed to deal with this. if there is a different procedure, please tell me. this is the only one i was brought to belive would work
Afterman - 02/15/2018
It's printed in chat, like i said. Also icky just said the exact same thing i just said?
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
well, if chat wasnt always being spammed with the results of commands, this would be a valid reason against me. however, by the time i banned him, i had other things i needed to deal with, while i was doing this, the ID was scrolled up too far, it was out of chat history i could view.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
@[SCI] Ickycoolboy How often is commands in chat this bad to the point you cant find something as clear as a steam id. Unless you wait a long time before looking for it, or by chance "making a excuse"
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
well if i cant find something it chat i just use console
or the steamid command in the ulx menu
Afterman - 02/15/2018
And moderators do have access to the command
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
but my console was being spammed with errors, the reason for this was because of ulx, it has so many errors. also remember, console tells you anything that happens, its unreasonable to expect me to scroll up quick enough. and if this is what i could have done, i would have done it. however, this man was already banned,  so i could not get his steam ID using the command(edited)
Afterman - 02/15/2018
So you couldnt ban him because you couldnt get his steamid, but he was already banned so you still couldnt get his steamid.

Quetz realize we're not stupid, we've been doing this for a long time
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i never said i coulnt ban him because i couldnt get his steam ID, i couldnt get his steam ID because i banned him
Afterman - 02/15/2018
i wanted you to know about him before i banned him. i could never get his steam ID after i banned him.

however, this man was already banned,  so i could not get his steam ID using the command
@[SCI] Ickycoolboy are you seeing this aswell or am i reading this wrong
These conflict
heavily
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i told you his steam id before i banned him so i still had easy access to it. however, you are saying my two arguments are incompatable, because i worded them differently, even though they are describing the exact same thing, in almost the exact same way.
you misunderstood what i wrote. if you wish, i will write it a third time, in a way that will be difficult to misunderstand
Afterman - 02/15/2018
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - Today at 11:49 PM
i see the obvious
they dont match
So its not me. They literally conflict
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
what about those two arguments conflict?
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Idk. So far you've given me no reason or anything what so ever to undo the demote. You have just made excuses, to the point icky multiple times corrected something you said.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
you say that you couldnt get his steamid before he was banned
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i did not say this
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
and then proceed to say you couldnt get his steam id after he was banned
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Then who did?
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
after i banned him.
"quoted"
Afterman - 02/15/2018
i wanted you to know about him before i banned him. i could never get his steam ID after i banned him.
however, this man was already banned,  so i could not get his steam ID using the command
Top says you couldnt ban him because then you cant get his ID, then in the other you're saying he was already banned so you couldnt use the command to get his ID
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i wanted you to know about him before i banned him. i could never get his steam ID AFTER i banned him.
thats what top says
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Icky and i are saying the same thing here. So you're saying we're both wrong with what we literally read?
We read it, we know what it says stop lying and admit you conflicted yourself
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
what does this have to do with what i was demoted for? i was told i was demoted for the tardis glitch i discovered. a HARMLESS glitch, mind you.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
No, i have multiple reasons against you.
Read up
@[SCI] Ickycoolboy Its your call. This is literally going no where and he has no dispute available to defend himself and everything i disputed he didnt comment on or again got disputed.
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
you are reading my arguments about the steam ID wrong too. you read it as me saying i could not get his steam ID before or after i banned him. i had his steam ID already before i banned him. because i knew i could not get the ID after i banned him. once i had banned him as you instructed me i could no longer get the steam ID if i didnt have it already.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
I just said me and icky read it the same way. You're just backtracking. You're trying to say we're both wrong which is really not likely
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
why are you being so harsh on this? when i banned him, i was just following your directions.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
This isnt harsh. This is upfront and im confronting this harsh would be like "thats a shitty excuse" or something which i havent dont
done*
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i have clarified the three reasons you gave for my demotion. why should i be demoted, omitting those reaosns.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
All of your clarifications had icky saying something on them correcting or agreeing with what i've said. And that's not taking sides i know damn well he doesnt take sides with issues like this
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
My arguments stand. i did as was instructed to me when i became a moderator. the tardis glitch caused no issues on the server, so i reported it to you when i could replicate it, as is my job. if this is not proper procedure, please tell me. i banned the aimbotter under your direction too. and this server crasher report was given under procedure.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
I'll say my opinion
I give chances
BUT
you have people that give very biased opinions
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i have given no strong opinions in this argument.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
im not talkin bout this argument
For example, today
you got demoted
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
what i did to ban the two, was under corvos orders, with corvos approval. i was doing as instructed.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
Quick question
nvm scratch that
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
the tardis did not crash the server, nor did it lag. had the tardis caused any issues, i would have reported it immiedeatly. and since it was harmless, i wanted to see if this was replicatable, it was. so i reported it to you as it would give an unfair advantage in PVP.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
The way you reported it though was extremely unprofessional'
If you see a glitch like that
you report it
and dont do it again
simple
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i reported it more in detail when you asked about its details, it was not required in detail right away because i did not have all the details, and it was not a game breaking issue.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Why do you have to make an excuse of everything, just say alright i'll do that next time and get over it.
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
thats what i would have done, if you had not demoted me before this. this is not just about what i did, this is also about me being demoted because i did my job.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
If you tell me right now
That you understand what you did wrong
and will correct it
I will readd you as mod rn
And if you have any questions
please ask
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i understand what i did wrong, i will correct it, and not do it again.
Afterman - 02/15/2018
Also, apon agreement. You must realize this isnt personal and if you obstruct me and fail to report something to me (after its actually taken care of) we will have this discussion again and it wont be as easy going
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
i understand this fact. and i will try to avoid what i did while reporting this glitch, what i did being so unprofessional. also i will ask if i have any uncertianties.
[SCI] Ickycoolboy - 02/15/2018
You are now a moderator
CallyyllaC - 02/15/2018
thank you icky