Link - Yesterday at 7:56 AM
Atyyy
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:57 AM
masser got it
but you can delete his and post it if you want
cuz im prob gonna add someone
but we'll see
love u tho, making match times on sunday same time every week
Link - Yesterday at 7:57 AM
At work now. Gotta do it later
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:57 AM
u the man
Link - Yesterday at 7:58 AM
This new job is so sick
So much learning and im head of a few stuff
Pretty nutty
Link - Yesterday at 6:25 PM
So vea said they can play the 27th but armada cant bc tarpin cant play? But Jo can which means you have eligible five. Is this true?
Wooly - Yesterday at 6:26 PM
Tarpin is gone that weekend
intriq was gone the weekend before
and on the 6th
we could have played either of those
i also am not sure if i can play 27th
its memorial day weekend
its a holiday, ppl are on vacation and are busy w/ stuff
badlights just complaining trying to make drama
i might be able to play sunday night, idk about during the day- probably not
but i also dont know if my team can play on the 27th now
ppl do stuff on memorial day
Tarpin is leaving the team after the season and I think he earned the right to play in the final... so it was logical that he should get to play imo. Intriq hasnt said anything to me about them forfeiting or anything like that
so that pretty much came out of the blue when i saw it in general this morning
I dont have it in message history but intriq told me he was cool w/ playing after the cup like a week ago, so we could try to make the 8th work or another day that week
but its gonna be hard for me to get a team in 3 days for memorial day weekend where ppl go out of town
its pretty unfair for them to expect our players to miss when they only have 4 active players
Also, I dont know if Jo can play that weekend. I havent communicated with her about that to that point.(edited)
me and intriq last talked about that like 11 days ago
even with all the other days that we could play and VEA couldnt, i think if VEA had an issue with it they shouldnt have waited til today to tell you they have a problem with it
(us not being able to play on the 27th)
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:13 PM
hope that gives you more context, let me know if you have any questions. i will talk to intriq about playing on the 8th
Link - Yesterday at 7:39 PM
Hmm
I mean we basically decided as admins we are gonna give both teams elite and call it a day. It was too much of a cluster fuck. This season - final days will be forced 4-6 weeks ahead of time
And people can plan around it
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:41 PM
I feel like we should get the season title
we could play without tarpin
technically they could only play with 4 if we forced it on them
runner ups for leagues get elite anyway
but i dont think we should be punished and not have a chance to win because they have a 4 player roster with shitty scheduling
we could play them without tarpin and win anyway. im not concerned about losing, but i wanted tarpin to get to play. he deserves to
and hes never won a season
Link - Yesterday at 7:43 PM
Intriq said to me that you guys had a date then backed out bc tarpin couldnt play
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:43 PM
that was like 3 weeks ago, i told intriq that i would prefer to play another day with tarpin
and he agreed to that.
Link - Yesterday at 7:44 PM
Just seems to me like both teams feel they were right and the other wrong and we have no way of truly knowing who is more right
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:44 PM
You want me to ask my team about the 27th?
We'll play them any day of the week.
But they have to play with 4 players
They dont even have a full team link
how am I supposed to schedule with a team that doesnt have a full team and has a guy that works nights 4 days a week, every other weekend.
Link - Yesterday at 7:45 PM
Blastquaser hit me up asking about the 27th. He said... Lemme check
"Blast ivilich badlight intriq... Pim(?)... not sure about 5th"
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:46 PM
Intriq told me that pim couldnt play
on the 27th
and that they would have to use a sub
i was under the impression that we would have a chance to play it after the world cup
since that is what intriq agreed to.
Link - Yesterday at 7:49 PM
Torix told both of you before may ended
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:49 PM
he said he would "like it to be done before may 27th"
when we were talking about it
intriq couldnt play the weekend before
he didnt lay down anything concrete "it has to be done before x time"
we havent had scheduling issues with any other team this season.
VEA has had scheduling issues with everyone
Intriq - 05/13/2018
yeah bo5 is dumb but if you want to play it that's up to you. Just hard to find a good weekend because badlight works every fri/sat evening but has every sunday off, i work every 3rd wknd.
if it's not 27th then we gotta do after cup
so they only have 4 players on their roster
badlight works friday and saturday night
Intriq worked every weekend this month that wasnt a holiday
after going to texas for a week
Link - Yesterday at 7:52 PM
Idk why you guys thouhht it had to be on one day
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:52 PM
why wouldnt it be
theres never been a DGL tournament or esports tournament where the map set was played across diff days
its just a little fucking ridiculous man
I havent said shit to anyone about it, i dont go complain to other people
they are a team of 4 players who have shitty work schedules and can never play.
Link - Yesterday at 7:54 PM
Im just trying to get both sides here. I understand.
Wooly - Yesterday at 7:54 PM
Badlight cant play friday and saturday at all. Intriq can play sunday like, every other weekend max.
Badlight goes and complains about everything in gen chat
They are a team of four players that had scheduling issues previously this season with other teams.
Whens the last time we had a scheduling issue with anyone?
the fact that you are getting messages about this now and messaging me 3 days before memorial day is a little bit ridiculous man.
Intriq said it would be after the cup, he made it clear on the public chat that no one else is waiting on it to get finished besides our teams. we've tried to play most weekends and they cant play.
in actuality they should have to forfeit because they only have 4 players.
but im being nice and giving them a chance to play with a sub.,
Wooly - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
10:54 PM - Wooly: realistically, im doing you a favor by letting you have a sub.
10:54 PM - Wooly: technically you couldnt have played any days with 5 players.
:shrug:
i dont think its fair for you to come to me on the 24th and say, why didnt you play it on the 27th, it has to be played this month
if you would have PMd me on the 12th we couldve just played with jo in all likelyhood
you are correct that from a rules perspective its a shit hole
but they dont have 5 players. we do.
we're only in this situation because intriq told me "i cant get 5 players at all, can we play with a sub one day?"
im really pissed man
They waited til the 24th to PM you guys
they could have messaged you guys 2 weeks ago
Wooly - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
I sent this to you on the 13th:
Wooly - 05/13/2018
so like
BO5 final basically has to be played on a weekend
it cant be played during the week
This weekend is mothers day
Next weekend intriq works
The weekend after is memorial day weekend so some of our guys cant make it
the weekend after is the world cup tournament
plus VEA can only get 4 max with a ringer
they dont even have a full roster of 5 players to play
scheduling this shit is a bitch tbh
so if its played itll probably be played after the world cup
Link - 05/13/2018
Rip vea
Wooly - 05/13/2018
torix wanted it done before may 27th
no way in hell it gets done
So, we had this conversation
11 days ago
i didnt hear anything back til now

Wooly - Today at 8:06 AM
I dont appreciate that at all.
Badlight is talking in discord, I am not even allowed to respond to him?
that's a huge double standard man.
Link - Today at 8:06 AM
Fyi - intriq sent me all chat logs between you and him. You lied about me saying you could play after world cup. Torix gave you a specific command about having to play in may. You lied last night to me about him not being concrete.

No one said the system was perfect. It was on you guys to figure it out. You told me yourself that you couldnt play on week days and tarpin got off at 9 so it was hard.

So you cant play week days and VEA cant play weekends. Seems like an issue
Wooly - Today at 8:07 AM
Torix said AFTER the command to talk to intriq
when I told him we couldnt play in May
Link - Today at 8:07 AM
Badlight said one little thing and you post an epilogue
Wooly - Today at 8:07 AM
He wasnt concrete about it
Torix didnt say, this needs to be done then or it wont be played at all
Intriq and I talked and we were under the impression that we could play it in june
I didnt "lie" to you about it being said he could play after the cup
Intriq said it would have to be played after the cup in our chat log
Link - Today at 8:08 AM
The fact is this, why would you ever play the cup after world cup
Makes no sense
Wooly - Today at 8:08 AM
Why not? We couldnt play it before.
Link - Today at 8:08 AM
Err final
Wooly - Today at 8:08 AM
We have people gone memorial day. Intriq works every other weekend.
We couldnt play mothers day
Link - Today at 8:08 AM
Its 6 weeks after the event. Thats insane
Wooly - Today at 8:08 AM
Well, intriq went on vacation man.
Why dont you just let us play it on th 10th
you are making this more difficult
Link - Today at 8:09 AM
You cant play weekdays bc of pubg
Wooly - Today at 8:09 AM
than it has to be
No, i can play some weekdays.
Link - Today at 8:09 AM
You have too much going on
Wooly - Today at 8:09 AM
But bo5 cant be played most weekdays
is what kisses said
Link - Today at 8:09 AM
It didnt need to be one day
Wooly - Today at 8:09 AM
and intriq and I were both under the impression that it couldnt be played in one day
well, that was never specificied man.
Thats not how tournaments work.
intriq and i were both under the impression that we had more time
Link - Today at 8:11 AM
Its already been decided. Youre both getting a draw and youll both get elite. You are just as guilty as vea in my opinion. This id a fault of the system as well - thats why moving forward dates will be set 4-6 weeks out
Wooly - Today at 8:11 AM
we arent playing next season
Link - Today at 8:11 AM
Thats fine then
Wooly - Today at 8:11 AM
have a nice life man
good luck with your league, i hope you fix your problems.
go ahead and delete our team from the roster list
Kisses and Jo wont be back
Not sure about Grin and Jems
see ya
I dont appreciate being text muted at all
when badlight is allowed to talk in discord about those problems
You need to get to a point where you have a system in place that stops pissing teams off and making them leave
Link - Today at 8:36 AM
Obviously thats what ive been saying
Thats why we set a default match time
For season 11
Wooly - Today at 8:37 AM
so whats the big deal with waiting until the 10th to play it
maybe you should have been more clear about the rules before making it a draw
In my POV you just want to fuck us because its my team
Since you dont like us or whatever, or at least thats the vibe I get
Link - Today at 8:40 AM
Dont be dramatic and egotistical. Has nothing to do with you. You want it to be. Everyone knows you would win most likely.
Wooly - Today at 8:41 AM
VEA has had scheduling problems in the same season
Link - Today at 8:41 AM
Once with cryo
Wooly - Today at 8:41 AM
What if someone told you Veritas couldnt play in the final because the other team couldnt play weekends with a bo5?
you'd be pissed
if it was your team we both know it would be different
Link - Today at 8:41 AM
Ive done that before
Wooly - Today at 8:42 AM
intriq and I are talking about playing it on the 10th
you have never had to schedule a best of 5 with this VEA team before
Link - Today at 8:42 AM
Wooly you said to me yourself you couldnt play weekdays and tarpin has schedule issues too
Both you and vea have issues
Wooly - Today at 8:43 AM
So let us play on the 10th...
Link - Today at 8:43 AM
And the system is not the best
Wooly - Today at 8:43 AM
Why should we be punished and not allowed to play / win because your system sucks and VEA only has 4 players who can play reguarly?
Link - Today at 8:43 AM
You also have issues
With schedule
Wooly - Today at 8:43 AM
but intriq and I agreed to a day last night?
Intriq said "get tarpin to convince badlight to play"
Link - Today at 8:44 AM
It was supposed to be done in May
Wooly - Today at 8:44 AM
there was no clear cut command that it had to be done in may
Link - Today at 8:44 AM
Intriq said may 27th worked 2 weeks ago and you said so too then came back bc tarpin couldnt as well
Wooly - Today at 8:44 AM
Torix contacted me around the 11th
no one said anything to me after that
Link - Today at 8:44 AM
Youre trying to twist it
Wooly - Today at 8:44 AM
youre being irresponsible as an admin
Link - Today at 8:44 AM
Intriq knew it had to be done in may
Wooly - Today at 8:44 AM
No
Link - Today at 8:44 AM
He told you in dms
I have the chat logs
Wooly - Today at 8:45 AM
look:

did you get all the chat logs?
Link - Today at 8:45 AM
I got that one too. He also sent me ones saying how vea would ffl
And a draw isnt bad. Its not the end of the world
Wooly - Today at 8:46 AM
it is, I want to play them and win the season
because we deserve to win
theyve used subs in all their playoff games
Link - Today at 8:46 AM
No theyy didnt
Wooly - Today at 8:46 AM
Outlaw played against RZN?
Link - Today at 8:47 AM
Reason played with rzn
Wooly - Today at 8:47 AM
didnt jollybear play against daddies?
Okay?
Link - Today at 8:47 AM
Haze let them
Wooly - Today at 8:47 AM
so my statement is correct?
they still used subs, of course they had to be allowed
Link - Today at 8:47 AM
What does your statement matter
Wooly - Today at 8:47 AM
there were other logs on steam
Link - Today at 8:47 AM
Im looking at vea vs armada
Wooly - Today at 8:47 AM
that arent on discord
im getting them off my phone
intriq told me on steam
he is cool with early june
but link is dead set on may
link, idrc
i would honestly play VEA on the 27th without tarpin on two days of practice
but i didnt know that this was being forced until yesterdeay
someone could have told me something on the 13th
when i messaged you about this.
If I knew that this HAS TO BE on the 27th, we would play without tarpin, fuck it whatever
but its dumb because me and you literally talked about this on the 13th
I told you that there is no way this happens in May
and you didnt message me back about it for another 12 days
do you understand my point?
if you want us to play sunday night, ill get my team and we'll play, whatever
obviously i need to ask them first
but this was on very short notice and very poorly communicated
talk about the communication between intriq and I being bad, maybe it was
but you could have told me that this needed to be done this month or it would be a draw a week ago
Link - Today at 8:54 AM
Torix told you guys to get it done in may in early may bud, dont know what else to say
Wooly - Today at 8:54 AM
I told you that.
Link - Today at 8:54 AM
I didnt realize it was so bad when you messaged me may 12th or i woulda done something
Wooly - Today at 8:55 AM

what are you talking about
this is what you responded to me with
this was TWELVE days ago Link
This is why im fucking upset about this
I explained to you how bad this was
like two weeks ago
If you PM me back on the 14th and say "play them on the 27th, thats the last possible day and it needs to be done by then", we would play them without tarpin.
but instead, I got messaged on the 24th saying "well, its going to be a draw, sorry dude"
Wooly - Today at 9:08 AM
ill ask them about the 28th
since it has to be done in may
we'll play with whatever 5 we can get
or 30th sorry
intriq works 28th
but has 30th off
thats 5 day notice and its during the week
tarpin probably cant make it but i can get jo and we'll play
Link - Today at 9:41 AM
That was on mothers day. I was with family for a good portion of that day. Thats probably why i didnt really respond and overlooked it.
What day is that wednesday
Wooly - Today at 9:42 AM
may 30th
Link - Today at 9:42 AM
Make it a best of 3 then
Wooly - Today at 9:42 AM
intriq sent me his work schedule for the month
he doesnt have to work that day
but i havent heard back from any of them yet about it
but i assume theyd be able to make it
its during the week and thats what works for them
Wooly - Today at 10:08 AM
Aight intriq said 30th works