(3:39:50 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I'm getting tired of defending you to plaid and then you getting into petty arguement and then storming off like that. You do help the SIG out a lot like myself back in the past but i had to stop my shitty self rightous attitude about how much i did for the SIG and that i should be allowed to get away with anything I wanted. Just like have and still doing you have to be more mature about this, we're hated, people want to see us gone and we're trying to keep our heads above water all the time. That is the way of life and i'd hate to say this because you do so much, you need to start curving your crappy attitude towards people and thing about your actions and you need to start doing it soon.

In fleets your great, people love you, the polar oppisite of me and we balance each other out, it's just you're so much like how i was when i first joined and believe me that's where you don't want to be, so please take some time to think so this because we're running out of chances to get you to realise.
(4:09:59 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: I "stormed off" so I didn't say or do anything stupid. I'm tired myself of being treated like a second class person in incursions. I love running incursions, I like FCing incursions. I hate being scolded like some errant schoolboy by people who don't put in 1/10th the effort that I do. Kick me, ban me, I couldn't give a shit anymore. I'm tired of being attacked by people who I thought were my friends.
(4:15:31 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Look i am your friend, you was there for me and you kicked up a pretty big fucking stink when i was being threatened to be kicked. I'm a terrible friend at not knowing at how i cant explain something to you using the right words, you didn't have to leave fc chat, but in the past you leave fc chat you don't bloody return and you get grumpy in the next incursion about it.

It's like i'm watching history repeat itself when I see you as you do the similar things i used to do and i'm trying to explain stuff to you like plaid did with me. I've been sitting on a lot of information that i haven't told you because i know you'd explode if i told you, you're a great friend i just want you to know that it's just, I don't know how to get you to see how i'm seeing things repeat itself here
(4:23:55 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: "get grumpy"? When the hell was that? I was "grumpy" that literally nobody else manned the fuck up the previous day to learn to FC HQs and I had to be volun-told to run them when you had to go to sleep. I was "grumpy" that it was literally just me and you who could FC for any stretch of time. Those guys who died were my fault (not counting the Tengu and the carrier), and if they weren't reimbursed I had offered to SRP them out of my own pocket.

It is like watching history repeat itself. We get off an incursion, and someone who wasn't there and didn't log in starts causing shit with people who do all the work and are trying to relax.
(4:38:09 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: The grumpy comment was to do with the whole tyler situation and you basically refused to talk to me, even in private, moving channels / disconnecting from mumble or muting yourself so you couldn't hear. We were meant to stand down between christmas and new years and not have a farm incursion, Sir Nardieu who can run HQ's is away until late Jan, Soridar has IRL issues to deal with, he has in the past helped me solo run incursions when you weren't around so he knows what that is like. No offence to you i've done this for well over a year of solo FCing or having 1 other FC around that can FC an incursion all the way through. Me and You are the other 2 people that do what we do, we don't get appreiated enough, I KNOW THIS. Yeah it pisses me off all the god damn time, but getting annoyed and fighting with others (Like i have in the past to the point i even blew up at TNT leadership calling them cunts left right and center, undeploying from a headshot incursion telling them to go fuck themselves) was a means to get what I requested but i pissed a lot of people off in the process, it put me in the situation that you are in right now at this moment. There are people calling your name to get kicked from GSF, people have come to me to see if i can get you to see things differently because you're walking down that road i once did. Incursion SIG has no complaints about you what so ever, people here love you. I just want to make that crystal clear. People outside of the SIG don't know you, don't dont give a shit that you're apart of the incursion SIG, they don't give a shit you are one of 2 people that pretty much keep the incursion SIG afloat, literally no one fucking cares apart from me. This is what you need to accept. Like it or not you either have to accept that fact and just carry on as i do or consider other options.

Today with you and soridar you were both as bad as each other, he was a twat to start with but you reacted. Pretty much making you both as bad as each other.

If you do just accept that fact that we're both apart of something awesome that people looking in just see a couple of pubbies doing pubbie shit, making bank and having fun with those that were brave enough to join us then the more fun you can have. I'm having a god damn blast with the SIG, people hate us and try and insult us but honestly they are just fucking jealous they cant deal with how fucking awesome we are. Fuck everyone else, you dont have to let them kinow they need to go fuck themselves though.
(4:39:40 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: If people want me to get out, I'll get out.
(4:40:01 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: It's clear I'm a liability to the sig.
(4:40:40 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: The Incursion SIG doesn't want you out, I don't want you out. You just need to accept you won't be liked or appreicated
(4:40:53 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: And not to rise to temptation to tell them to go fuck themselves
(4:41:55 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Can you live with the fact that no one outside of the SIG will be thankful for what you do with incursions?
(4:42:03 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: I already do.
(4:42:36 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Let me phrase that differently
(4:43:25 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Can you deal with not being able to express to those that don't like us that they are wrong?
(4:43:59 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: I already do.
(4:44:37 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Hate to say it, but atm other's don't see it that way.
(4:44:56 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: By "those that don't like us" do you mean me and you, or the incursion sig
(4:45:18 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: All 3
(4:45:33 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I'm not liked, well i'm more liked than before but still pretty unliked
(4:45:57 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: Couldn't give a shit about what outsiders think. I'm keeping my mouth shut when it comes to them.
(4:48:01 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: For the record, BonD 2o0 and Jason Theta  are not mine
(4:48:37 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Just do what you love and just don't care about what others think. Right now plaids concerns that you are too lively / volatle to take that risk he did with me to be leadership. Although i do share those concerns with him but not as much as he thinks it is, i think you need that sink or swim chance that i had
(4:49:56 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: For the record and this doesn't leave this chat..
(4:50:50 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: There are those in KF that have called for you to get kicked, however there are others in there that look at the situation as you've not broken any rules so you cant be kicked. But they think you're a massive asshat.
(4:51:14 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: I know
(4:51:16 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Not yet at the same level that i was but your getting there
(4:52:04 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I don't want to lose you and I would bet my Nyx and all the shit i own in eve that the SIG doesn't want to lose you either
(4:52:23 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: The Sig probably doesn't wanna lose me
(4:52:29 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: Even odds on fcincursions
(4:53:48 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I'm the top dog of the EU TZ, as soon as all this dust settles and you make leadership you'll be top dog of the US TZ and this SIG will be the top fucking spot in the whole of new eden and we can smug all over the highsec carebears
(4:55:39 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: So we're clear as well, I'm not sitting here saying or thinking that all you do is fan shit. Others play their part to bait and trigger you to tell them to fuck off. I still get triggered all the time with people being fucking dumb
(4:56:08 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: To my knowledge, the last guy before soridar was Tyler/Jay.
(4:56:23 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: The drama that kicked off with me
(4:56:30 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: You pissed a metric fuck ton of people off
(4:56:47 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: Oh yeah.
(4:56:52 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: some people are still mad about it
(4:57:07 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: They all know you can get triggered and are basically waiting to trigger you
(4:57:45 AM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com: (11:40:13 PM) nolak_ataru@goonfleet.com/a1bjrbkyas: It's clear I'm a liability to the sig.
(4:57:47 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Just play it cool and if someone starts making your blood boil just deescalate the situation and move on
(4:57:57 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Dude in the past so was i
(4:58:14 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Yeah it pisses me off all the god damn time, but getting annoyed and fighting with others (Like i have in the past to the point i even blew up at TNT leadership calling them cunts left right and center, undeploying from a headshot incursion telling them to go fuck themselves)
(4:58:39 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Porkybutte basically was fighting himself if he should kick me or not
(4:59:02 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: The only reason he kept me in KF is because he ran highsec incursions with me as the FC
(4:59:08 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: And he knew what i was like
(4:59:18 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: Had a nice sit down chat with him, similar to this actually
(4:59:55 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: He asked me if i was in the same situation as him if i would kick or not
(5:01:11 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I will keep defend you to plaid and others, that will never stop.
(5:01:35 AM) joe_barbarian@goonfleet.com/4oj7lmlmz6: I just cant stop people taking actions towards you because they aren't incursion runners like us