11:29:30 PM foo: ok, do you have time to discuss another rather more awkward topic that I have been worried about?
11:29:48 PM bar: sure
11:30:49 PM foo: okay. ergh. this one I am less sure how to approach, because it's not quite as well organized in my own mind. so, I request some forbearance up front
11:31:03 PM bar: Less preamble, more talking
11:31:08 PM foo: k. sorry
11:31:47 PM foo: I don't know where you and I stand, as far as sex in this relationship
11:32:01 PM bar: stand?
11:32:36 PM foo: as in, I'm not sure what your attitudes are towards it, and not sure what you think my hopes and expectations are
11:33:09 PM bar: this should be simple. Tell me what your hopes and expectations are.
11:33:35 PM foo: it's not that simple, though. you're a free agent with your own hopes and expectations, no?
11:34:04 PM bar: I quote, "I'm not "
11:34:11 PM bar: sure what you think my hopes and expectations are"
11:34:34 PM bar: if this is a problem, then make sure you tell me what I should think your hopes and expectations are
11:35:35 PM bar: Okay, if that's too complicated, let's start with me. What do you want to know about my attitudes towards sex in this relationship?
11:37:23 PM foo: that is too complicated :) ok. I suppose I want to know what it is *you* want, as far as sex is concerned. is it something that you have feelings and opinions about personally, or only something that you feel in relative to my expectations?
11:37:43 PM foo: *in relation to
11:38:50 PM bar: I *always* have opinions. :P
11:39:10 PM foo: heh, I know. which is why I would like to know them :)
11:39:20 PM bar: But let me try to figure out what you're trying to say, because it's not immediately clear.
11:39:32 PM foo: okay
11:40:48 PM foo: er, sorry. how can I help with this endeavor?
11:41:22 PM bar: Clarify what you mean? Rephrase?
11:44:22 PM bar: drat, I've made the typing go away again :P
11:44:23 PM foo: okay. I guess I'm asking what you want in the realm of sexual activity, if anything. and part of that is, I think, tied up with what you think I might like, which is why I was asking about what you see as my hopes and expectations
11:44:29 PM bar: (or maybe not)
11:44:47 PM foo: (nope!)
11:45:19 PM bar: Fluctuates? In general, I'd be happy without any, but sometimes I'm interested, and you are an influence.
11:46:12 PM foo: could you expand on the "sometimes you're interested"? and, are there things that I (or you) could do to increase your interest?
11:46:47 PM bar: Could *you* expand on that?
11:48:17 PM bar: man, way too much thinking going into this on your end
11:48:33 PM foo: heh, I think probably this is true :\
11:48:37 PM bar: (or possibly too much drinking, depending on what is slowing your typing down)
11:49:03 PM bar: (we could talk instead, if that would be faster)
11:49:34 PM bar: but first, could I be excused for the next 11 minutes?
11:49:42 PM foo: oh, sure
11:49:51 PM bar: I want to accomplish some things before midnight
11:49:57 PM foo: no problem