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dezibelieve: cbf with this kinda shit
dezibelieve: obv wouldnt be a good team
dezibelieve: if people have that kind of attitude from the start
disk0 /¿: like i mean it just makes it easier to make a team
disk0 /¿: tbh
dezibelieve: yea well idk for you guys maybe
disk0 /¿: like i told zen
disk0 /¿: its easier to make a seadoggs type team
disk0 /¿: to begin with
disk0 /¿: especiall since him and i ahve been otuta the scene
dezibelieve: ye tru
dezibelieve: i dont agree tho
disk0 /¿: either way, i feel it should be pretty easy to get to cgp with just individual talent
disk0 /¿: given the teams
disk0 /¿: that are in the quals
disk0 /¿: u dont agree, but give me an honest opinion right
disk0 /¿: do u really think aus has progressed in tactics that much compared to last year?
disk0 /¿: as long as the individual plays can still make it thru, u will do decent in aus
disk0 /¿: imo
dezibelieve: not so much tactics
disk0 /¿: if everyone on the team knows how to play
disk0 /¿: u pretty much only have to work on strategy and chemistry
dezibelieve: and thats been in the whole scene even eu/na really
dezibelieve: only tactical advancements in the last 6 months have been the big jump glitch shit + decoy fakes
dezibelieve: strats are all the same
disk0 /¿: yeah exactly and i am confident if i brought that ovo team
disk0 /¿: back into the scene
dezibelieve: moreso teamwork and overall teamplay/chemistry is probably the better mechanic being utilised more
disk0 /¿: id be able to destroy those cgi teams
disk0 /¿: in the quals
disk0 /¿: yea
disk0 /¿: like look @ grayhounds
disk0 /¿: like indiviudally u'd say tainted would shit on them
disk0 /¿: but as a team grayhounds > them for sure
disk0 /¿: but thats only the top 2-4 teams
disk0 /¿: the rest of the teams
disk0 /¿: are far from that level
disk0 /¿: imo
dezibelieve: tm used destiny instead of chuch
dezibelieve: at lan
disk0 /¿: that also plays a part i guess
dezibelieve: this weekend
disk0 /¿: but aside from those teams
dezibelieve: but um ye i guess
disk0 /¿: the rest of them
dezibelieve: every team has issues though
disk0 /¿: are pretty average
dezibelieve: not many players even understand the fundamentals of cs
disk0 /¿: like as a whole aus has progressed slowly, and have always progressed behind the other scenes
disk0 /¿: yes
dezibelieve: so that is why i dont agree with your pov
disk0 /¿: i agree
dezibelieve: cos if the players in these top teams are having issues with fundamentals
dezibelieve: i dont believe the people you rate/think would be good
dezibelieve: would actually be able to play at that level
disk0 /¿: i said aside from the top 2-4 teams
dezibelieve: tm gh chiefs kings ath are imo set in stone as top 5
disk0 /¿: yeah definitely
dezibelieve: and i 100% believed zen would be able to call at that level
dezibelieve: if noisia could
dezibelieve: and especially even if i could
dezibelieve: when i was calling the 1st season of cgp with the new avant
disk0 /¿: yeah i know
disk0 /¿: i never thought igling was hard
disk0 /¿: not in aus atleast
dezibelieve: pretty hard when u have to micro people
disk0 /¿: yeah see
disk0 /¿: thats like one of the important things i look for in people
disk0 /¿: thats where "fundamental cs"
disk0 /¿: comes in
disk0 /¿: if they dont know how to react in certain ways to certain situations
disk0 /¿: then i dont know what they're doing in my team
dezibelieve: ye
dezibelieve: but then how can you rate people like
dezibelieve: allmight & kure
dezibelieve: when all theyve ever done is play pugs
disk0 /¿: rofl
disk0 /¿: so ur saying
disk0 /¿: that i (a pug player) should rate everyone from cgi last year who all stratted, pracced, and were non pug-stars
disk0 /¿: the difference is, kure and allmight are better than just puggers
disk0 /¿: lets look at another pugger
disk0 /¿: strauchanie
disk0 /¿: raesos
disk0 /¿: kibstar
disk0 /¿: all these puggers wont even be able to frag well in cgp