[22:44:45] Paradisefalls > shitty voter habits
[22:44:55] Senjo Ling > you not signing up for a few online accounts is not protecting you from anything
[22:45:11] Dredwerkz > its stopping these shits collecting data on me
[22:45:18] Dredwerkz > data they dont need
[22:45:31] Dredwerkz > for me to buy a game, they need my credit card, thats it
[22:45:31] Senjo Ling > even with a VPN there's a lot of info that can be tracked
[22:45:40] Senjo Ling > so what do you think your credit company does?
[22:45:47] Dredwerkz > sends them money
[22:45:53] Paradisefalls > you got a smartphone cuz thats all the date they need already bro.
[22:46:08] Blue Moloney > look int oblockchains
[22:46:10] Senjo Ling > Dreadwerkz 23/07/2019 - Bought Galaxy Pack DLC (EVE ONLINE/TYPE:VIDEO GAME/ONLINE)
[22:46:20] Senjo Ling > you think they don't care about that info, that it's not useful to them? xD
[22:46:37] Senjo Ling > your credit company has probably sold more data on you than the sum total of your entire online presence
[22:47:02] Dredwerkz > im lost on what your point is
[22:47:20] Paradisefalls > your worrying about things that are already out of your hands
[22:47:24] Paradisefalls > but u do you man
[22:47:30] Paradisefalls > sorry for judging
[22:47:36] Dredwerkz > im saying if all i want to do is buy a game, why ask more info of me than the info they need for me to pay for it?
[22:47:41] Senjo Ling > I'm saying I don't understand your fear when you worry about small websites and what they'll do about you, but you're already having everything you're worried about being stolen and sold being stolen and sold by services you already use
[22:48:01] Senjo Ling > for the same reason the credit card company doesn't just send money to the company from you
[22:48:06] Senjo Ling > $$$$$$$
[22:48:25] JackFrags Audanie > can someone link a lvl 4 mision fit
[22:48:39] Erneste Ambraelle > for what hull?
[22:48:49] EVE System > Connection to chat server lost
[22:48:51] EVE System > Reconnected to chat server
[22:49:31] Senjo Ling > No flame Dread, I feel you completely on what you're saying, I'm just saying that boat sailed long ago
[22:49:49] Senjo Ling > and will keep sailing until one of these proposed laws about companies having to show you the "value" of your private data come in
[22:50:36] Senjo Ling > talking of sailing, did you guys pop the mom?
[22:50:41] Senjo Ling > or did someone else get it?
[22:54:38] Tanith Falsetti > Your logic is total shit if we're getting petty with it. let's boil it down:<br><br>You don't wanna sign up for a new account because you don't want them having your info. That info is the fact that you bought that game. Which, incidentally, is already sold information because your credit company already sold that data on the moment you used your card to do it.
[22:55:44] Dredwerkz > why is the company selling me the game asking for that info if they will get it anyway?
[22:56:22] Tanith Falsetti > ?
[22:56:28] Tanith Falsetti > They're asking for your email as a form of contact with you
[22:56:50] Tanith Falsetti > they have a record that you are a paying customer, and have a right to support for whatever, say its a refund or game issue or w/e
[22:57:06] Dredwerkz > trasnaction id
[22:57:56] Tanith Falsetti > so what, you want to call some guy called "Alexander" in Bombay for 45 minutes to deal with everything? Because how else you going to contact them....?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Email?
[22:58:16] Dredwerkz > tell my CC company i want a refund
[22:58:43] Tanith Falsetti > chargeback is not a refund, the end result is the same in terms of you getting your cash back but its not a refund
[22:58:56] Tanith Falsetti > and then the credit card company sells the info that you chargeback :L
[22:58:59] Dredwerkz > but i have my money back right?
[23:00:15] Dredwerkz > my point is pretty simple, i try to avoid giving any more info than i need to, because whoever im dealing with simply doesnt need it
[23:00:35] Tanith Falsetti > But all they're getting is an email address which you make a throwaway for, its ludditism at its finest
[23:00:56] Dredwerkz > if i super duper want something i will sometimes give that up, but when a game wants to do something like install like 30 executables i sure as shit dont play it
[23:01:10] Paradisefalls > yea use a fake email if thats all your worried about
[23:01:23] Tanith Falsetti > oh yeah fuck that Dread, 100% with you on that man
[23:01:29] Tanith Falsetti > Pando media booster can fuck off
[23:01:40] Dredwerkz > but its not just that they want, they want to install loads of other shit thats not actually part of the game
[23:01:46] Tanith Falsetti > Only time i'm not bothered with extra .exes is like Punkbuster of EAC
[23:02:00] Paradisefalls > oh well then i missed that part of your discussion
[23:02:10] Paradisefalls > i thought you worried about your info
[23:02:16] Dredwerkz > well i am
[23:02:24] Paradisefalls > >_>
[23:02:33] Dredwerkz > dont you worry about yours?
[23:02:42] Paradisefalls > its a bit late for that man
[23:02:54] Dredwerkz > well post your name and address right here
[23:03:06] Dredwerkz > its already too late so it doesnt matter right?
[23:03:08] Paradisefalls > it wouldnt be easy to find if you really wanted to
[23:03:13] Paradisefalls > be hard to find*
[23:03:26] Dredwerkz > but you know better than to make it too easy?
[23:03:33] Dredwerkz > SO YOU FUCKING AGREEE WITH ME
[23:03:46] Senjo Ling > make a throwaway then! :L
[23:03:56] Senjo Ling > Epic Games is definitely not for you though dread, coming back to the original point
[23:03:59] Senjo Ling > its dodgy AF
[23:03:59] Paradisefalls > well to strangers like you. but there is a whole network of coorps that already share that shit
[23:04:05] Dredwerkz > i have like 30 emails, each one for each website i use
[23:04:37] Dredwerkz > well even any anti-cheat software, what if i want to cheat?
[23:05:02] Paradisefalls > i can almost garantee a coorp has alread link those emails to you just from purchasing habits isp ids and the such
[23:05:05] Senjo Ling > they're usually in online games, most solo games you can if you want
[23:06:36] Dredwerkz > well i disagree with them entirely, i dont care enough about games to cheat in something like cod, or whatever
[23:06:38] Goocher Haklar > Im just going to post my information on reddit. that way i can beat the companies to asking me for it
[23:07:20] Dredwerkz > i just think grow up, if you think someone is cheating against you just quit and join another game
[23:07:54] Erneste Ambraelle > and what happens to all the games that don't have a large enough playerbase to support that
[23:08:18] Dredwerkz > they will struggle to even get 2 concurrent matches?
[23:08:26] Dredwerkz > thats a pretty fucking small game
[23:08:32] Erneste Ambraelle > if a match is full, you can't join it
[23:08:35] Senjo Ling > Why should other people have to leave game to deal with hackers lol
[23:09:02] Senjo Ling > "I think if there's crime in an area, people should just leave and move somewhere else"
[23:09:21] Dredwerkz > <url=showinfo:1373//676907234>Senjo Ling</url> if someone were in a gas station forecourt spraying gasoline everywhere you stick around ebcause it should be him wh leaves?
[23:09:51] Senjo Ling > If police could readily be placed at every gas station just in case it happened and instantly shut it down, wouldn't you rather that?
[23:09:55] Erneste Ambraelle > I'd expect the owners to shut off that gas pump and report the guy to the police?
[23:10:02] Dredwerkz > er, fuck yeah i think that, you wouldnt catch me buying a house in london LOL
[23:10:12] Erneste Ambraelle > It is expensive I spose
[23:10:27] Senjo Ling > Don't you live in Brazil?
[23:10:35] Dredwerkz > <url=showinfo:1373//91407913>Erneste Ambraelle</url> thats long term, what about immediately?
[23:10:50] Dredwerkz > stand there and get drenched in gas or GTFO
[23:10:57] Erneste Ambraelle > How many people spray gas around in petrol stations?
[23:11:03] Erneste Ambraelle > How many people hack multiplayuer games?
[23:11:03] Senjo Ling > but again, what if immediately there were always police there
[23:11:09] Senjo Ling > why would you complain about that situation?
[23:11:13] Erneste Ambraelle > It's a fucking terrible analogy
[23:11:20] Dredwerkz > not many on both counts
[23:11:23] Erneste Ambraelle > lol
[23:11:35] Erneste Ambraelle > You should try playing some more games mate, make some fake emails
[23:11:48] Senjo Ling > I think with gmail you can make fake accounts for the same email
[23:12:04] Senjo Ling > like say its xyz@gmail.com you can do fred.xyz@gmail.com or something?
[23:12:20] Senjo Ling > You'd have to look it up to be sure
[23:13:04] Cuendillar77 > mailinator.com works great also
[23:13:09] Dredwerkz > i have tried other games i tried one of the recent (ish) call of dutys, got pissed off the player base so tiny
[23:13:09] Cuendillar77 > let them eat spam