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  1. PERSONAL VEHICLE DAILY LIMIT
  2.  
  3. Credits: johnny bana - NicGore - wutapuss
  4. Special Thanks To:
  5. funmw2
  6. Other Contributors - Testing, support & logs
  7. *Snoopsta*Geno1976*Treehunter*Jburn24*xXxKillaxXx*Glitcher8821*Geminixx523*Polybotic Thief*Eblade67*Gandalf61*Indica Smoker*cekit*passthatblunt*ScruffyNerfHerder*DarekToJa
  8.  
  9. *******WARNING MUST READ BEFORE SELLING DUPES*****
  10. 08-29-2017
  11. Repeat Cap Offender Time changed from 9 months to 15 months
  12.  
  13. 07-21-2017
  14. Threshold changed to 60 minutes and # cars changed to 3.
  15.  
  16. What does this mean? Selling 3 cars within 60 minutes will raise your exploit level. The 7 minute rule is officially retired.
  17.  
  18. Options:
  19. Sell 1 car every 31 minutes
  20. Sell 2 cars, wait 60 minutes and sell 2 more
  21.  
  22. Of course...dupe detect and RepeatCapOffender hasn't changed.
  23.  
  24. 03-29-2017
  25. If you found this thread because you hit the Daily Limit after 1 sale, you have most likely been flagged for having duplicates. The code was checking license plate in all garages and has since blacklisted all of the plates. Section E of this thread talks about Dupe Detect and you can also find more information here:
  26.  
  27. Warning Must Read Before Selling Dupes
  28.  
  29.  
  30. 4-12-2017
  31. - Dupe Detect is now lowering the prices of each subsequent vehicle.
  32. Quoting funmw2 's post on the most recent changes in dupe detect.
  33. A new background script decrease the Sale value of any vehicle if your Peak Exploit Level increased more than 3 up to 7 and it's decreased by the amount of dirty dupes you have.
  34. 0 Dupe = 1
  35. 1 Dirty Dupe = Sell_Value * 0.5
  36. 2 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.25
  37. 3 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.125
  38. 4 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.06
  39. 5 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.02
  40. 6 Dirty Dupes and more use the same value for 5 Dirty Dupes.
  41. 950000 * 0.02 = 19000
  42. That means you have been detected as having 5 Dirty Dupes or more.
  43.  
  44.  
  45. 02-06-2017
  46.  
  47. It's a trick!! Don't fall for it!!!
  48.  
  49. Recent Tunable Changes
  50. CURRENTVEHICLESALESSEASON": [{"value": 7}],
  51. "CAP_FOR_EXPLOIT_LEVEL_4": [{"value": 9}], Actual hidden limit = 5
  52. "CAP_FOR_EXPLOIT_LEVEL_5": [{"value": 9}], Actual hidden limit = 4
  53. "CAP_FOR_EXPLOIT_LEVEL_6": [{"value": 9}], Actual hidden limit = 3
  54.  
  55. *What this means is that if you hit your first level 1 or 2. The following 30hr window you will try to sell 8 and hit additional limits. The third window (level 4-6) when you think your limit should have gone back up...It does because you are able to sell up to 9, but your current exploit level is lower and you are eventually put into Repeat Cap Offender Levels 1 or 2.
  56.  
  57. *Do not hit your limit. The new Limit has a +1 built in. So if your limit is 8 and you sell 8, when compared in the formula it acts as if you sold 9. example: (if #Cars sold in a day +1 > Limit then record as exploit)
  58.  
  59. *Because of this we have lowered the recommended 30 hr limit from 9 to 8 and this trigger may even be 7. When done selling for your 30 hour window, check if an additional sale is possible. Driving to the Customs Shop and check the price. This will show that you did not hit your limit on your last sale. Do Not Sell this vehicle.
  60.  
  61. *The algorithm seems to be looking for sales three 30 hour periods in a row.
  62.  
  63. *Strongly advise to sell for two 30 hour windows and then take 60 hours off from selling and repeat.
  64.  
  65. *I understand how much of a pain this will be but until this new system is fully understood we do not want to hit any limits.
  66.  
  67. 02-01-2017
  68.  
  69. Hitting limit for certain Players now lowering limits
  70.  
  71. *We've had quite a few players report that selling to limit with 7 minute spacing has lowered limit
  72.  
  73. *Investigating the cause but my best guess is that it is only happening only to players who have had a exploit level prior to January 6th. More info needed on this.
  74.  
  75. *I updated the OP making suggestion to sell 1 less than known limit. This is going to make finding your limit harder and will most likely require a complete rewrite of the tutorial. So for now I have the following suggestions:
  76.  
  77. **If you have currently been hitting your limit and had no negative effect. Continue to do so. Please report any changes.
  78. **If you followed this guide correctly (7min rule, 30hr rule etc) and unexpectedly hit your limit. Stop selling for a day or two and realize what your limit would be since you last hit it. Sell 1 less than your limit from now on.
  79.  
  80. *I need to know players who have unexpectedly had their limit drop even though they were following this guide...example:
  81. Monday: Sold 8 with 7 minute spacing. Received limit message attempting 9th sale.
  82. Wednesday(30+hrs later): Sold 6 with 7 minute spacing. Received limit message attempting the 7th sale.
  83.  
  84. 01-20-2017
  85.  
  86. Confirmed Additional Threshold for being marked as an exploit.This is not in the tunable.
  87.  
  88.  
  89. Do not sell 10 or more cars in 30 hours
  90. If you don't know your start time; take a 30 hour break from your LAST sale. From that point your 1st sale will be your start point.
  91. I updated the OP yesterday and the follow is still true and correct:7 mins rule,
  92.  
  93. Time starts with 1st car,
  94. Limit message ok...except 10th car,
  95. Caps Enforced,
  96. Levels,
  97. Cap Recovery time
  98.  
  99.  
  100. I spent hours on this last night and this morning. I will post more soon but wanted to get the 10 car info out.
  101.  
  102. 01-18-2017
  103.  
  104. Daily Sell Limit Window changed from 24 to 30 hours. This will change our selling strategy.
  105. Implementation of Repeat Cap Offender Levels. (1 car & 2 car)
  106. Implementation of Repeat Cap Offender Times (9 months or R* removal)
  107. Reduction of Cap Recovery time 96 hours to 60 hours
  108.  
  109. 01-16-2017
  110.  
  111. Early reports of players hitting limits already. Most likely the entries were added to the Title Update or a new Tunable file has been created. Thread is back open.
  112.  
  113. 01-06-2017
  114. The Tunable file has Vehicle Caps removed. This has led to unlimited sales. I would have thought it was only a 24 hour thing but we're going past 48 now. I strongly advise everybody to still exercise the 7 minute spacing as those values are still in place. Sell outside this guide at your own risk. I am monitoring the tunable and will let everybody know when it changes. Until then, this thread will remain locked to avoid unnecessary spam.
  115. **************************************************
  116. Current recommendation
  117.  
  118. *If you have no limit, sell 8 cars per 30 hours. Do not sell 3 cars within 1 hour
  119.  
  120. *If you've suddenly hit a limit of 1 or 2 for the first time, check for Dupe Detected vehicles (dupes with generic license plates that match), check garages for custom license plates that you've accidentally deleted from iFruit. If either of these conditions exist, you should get rid of these vehicles to remove the dupe detection. See section F for more details.
  121.  
  122. *If you hit multiple limits that decrease over time you should read the entire post.
  123.  
  124. *Note: Sale prices on vehicles will reduce the resale of your vehicle. It's just economics. If it happens to be a Tuesday when you notice your car is selling for 100k less; A modshop discount is highly likely to be the reason.
  125. Remember to please click the like button below
  126. 1. Daily Limit Information
  127. A. Description
  128.  
  129. The Daily Limit on Personal Vehicles is a tiered system of levels players can be put into. Players are put into these tiers based on an algorithm written by R* to deter glitchers and exploiters from continuously selling vehicles back to back. The tiers can also be referred to as limits, levels or caps. The number of allowable personal vehicle sales per 30 hour period is determined by R* and this value can be adjusted if needed via the tunable file. As a safe suggestion we recommend the following:
  130. *Never sell 3 or more cars per any 60 minute time frame.
  131. *Do not sell more than 8 vehicles per 30 hours.
  132. *All times this OP refers to are Real Life times and not based on the GTA Clock.​
  133. B. Types Of Vehicles
  134.  
  135. Purchased Vehicle = Vehicle you paid for through a website(or a duplication of one of these vehicles) No wait time on sale at LSC.
  136.  
  137. Stolen Vehicle = Vehicle taken off Street without paying for it (or duplication of this type) 48 minute wait on sale, does not count against daily limit.
  138.  
  139. Personal Vehicle = Vehicle fitted with a tracker or stored in player garage. Sale counts against daily limit. Note: Upgrading any vehicle at Benny's to a Custom Variant will automatically install a tracker. So if you stole an Elegy Rh8 off the street and Upgraded it to an Elegy Retro; The Elegy Retro is now a Purchased Vehicle.
  140.  
  141. So you can have:
  142.  
  143. Purchased Personal Vehicle = No wait time between sales, counts against Daily Limit.
  144.  
  145. Stolen Vehicle (Not PV) = 48 minute wait, does not count against Daily Limit
  146.  
  147. Stolen Vehicle (PV) = 48 minute wait & counts against Daily Limit.
  148.  
  149. Want to know more about duping? Read Gandalf61 's thread:
  150. Everything you ever wanted to know about duping
  151.  
  152.  
  153. C. Exploit Levels & Repeat Cap Offender​
  154. NO LEVEL - Daily Max Determined by Tunable (Currently 40) Do not sell more than 8! The game will allow you to sell up to 40, but you will marked as an exploit and level reduced.
  155.  
  156. EXPLOIT LEVELS - DAILY LIMIT (Cap)
  157.  
  158. LEVEL 1 - 10 Vehicles per 30 hours
  159. LEVEL 2 - 8 Vehicles per 30 hours
  160. LEVEL 3 - 6 Vehicles per 30 hours
  161. ~ No custom license plate option below this level ~
  162. *LEVEL 4 - 5 Vehicles per 30 hours*
  163. *LEVEL 5 - 4 Vehicles per 30 hours*
  164. *LEVEL 6 - 3 Vehicles per 30 hours*
  165. LEVEL 7 - 3 Vehicles per 30 hours
  166.  
  167. *LEVEL 4-5-6 will allow you to oversell. You will not hit a limit until 9. This is NOT a free pass. It is a direct flight to RepeatCapOffender.
  168.  
  169. REPEAT CAP OFFENDER LEVEL 1
  170. 2 Vehicles for every 30 hrs for 15 month period. No Cap recovery.*
  171. REPEAT CAP OFFENDER LEVEL 2
  172. 1 Vehicle for every 30 hrs for 15 month period. No Cap recovery.*​
  173. D. Cap Recovery
  174.  
  175. This has added a lot of confusion the last year or so and several non-working bypasses. As you can see there is room for a player to assume his limit is something other than it really is.​
  176. The 30 hour timer is triggered by the first vehicle sold. Then the remaining vehicles (up to limit) may be sold in this 30 hour time period​
  177. After the 30 hour window expires a new 30 hour window can be opened by selling another vehicle.​
  178. It is possible that you could sell more than your limit in a short period of time. This is not a glitch, it averages out to your limit over 60 hours.​
  179. E. PV Cleanup
  180.  
  181. This is the time period it takes before your limit is raised back up to the next level. So long as you do not hit your cap, sell multiple b2b sales and logging in at least 1 time every 24 hours is recommended.
  182.  
  183. F. Dupe Detect & License Plates
  184.  
  185. *Implemented March 22nd, 2017.
  186.  
  187. *Dupe Detect tracks the last 30 vehicles you have used and also tracks vehicle sales for exact generic (non iFruit) license plates.
  188.  
  189. *If duplicate generic plates are detected, the game marks that specific plate as dupe detected.
  190.  
  191. *Immediately lose access to change to custom plates on the vehicle with detected plates.
  192.  
  193. *You will hit the Daily Limit message after the second dupe detected vehicle and then be restricted to 1 vehicle per 30 hour Limit.
  194.  
  195. *Dupe detect isn't shared between 1st & 2nd characters.
  196.  
  197. *If you have a high exploit level already, dupe detect will lower the price of each sale until it hits 2% of the initial sale price. See chart below
  198.  
  199. A new background script decrease the Sale value of any vehicle if your Peak Exploit Level increased more than 3 up to 7 and it's decreased by the amount of dirty dupes you have.
  200. 0 Dupe = 1
  201. 1 Dirty Dupe = Sell_Value * 0.5
  202. 2 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.25
  203. 3 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.125
  204. 4 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.06
  205. 5 Dirty Dupes = Sell_Value * 0.02
  206. 6 Dirty Dupes and more use the same value for 5 Dirty Dupes.
  207. 950000 * 0.02 = 19000
  208. That means you have been detected as having 5 Dirty Dupes or more.
  209.  
  210. False Positive​
  211.  
  212. If you deleted a custom plate in iFruit and still have it on vehicles; It will act as if that vehicle is Dupe Detected. This is a false positive and an unfortunate glitch that Rockstar has not fixed. Once this plate has been deleted from inventory it is nearly impossible to re-add it to your inventory or change the plate on the vehicle that has been falsely detected. If your not sure if you have deleted a plate or not, go through the plates in your iFruit plate inventory and write down all the plates. Then go through your garage and make sure all of your custom plates are also listed in iFruit.
  213.  
  214. Get out of Dupe Detect
  215. Simple answer: Get rid of Dupe Detected vehicles. If you catch it early on, your Daily Limit will be instantly removed as long as you had no prior exploit level. Your only options are to dupe over the detected vehicles or replace them with other vehicles. I would not recommend selling these cars as you are only doing yourself more harm than help by flagging yourself as a High Level Exploiter.
  216.  
  217. ****************************************************************
  218. 2. How To Avoid A Daily Limit​
  219. 1. Do not sell 3 or more cars in any 60 minute time period.
  220. -You can sell 2. then wait 60 minutes or
  221. -You can sell 1 car every 31 minutes.
  222. 2. Do not sell over 8 cars per 30 hours
  223.  
  224. 3. Steps to Raise Your Daily Limit
  225.  
  226. Avoid hitting your limit
  227. Never sell 3 or more cars in any 60 minute time frame
  228. Don't sell Dirty Dupes
  229.  
  230. If you know you have no limit:​
  231. You do not need to do anything just follow above How to avoid your limit​
  232. If you hit a limit message after selling 9 cars or 3 cars (must read)
  233.  
  234. Level 4, 5 & 6 have changed to 9 cars. This is your limit but your exploit level is actually lower. This is a plot that R* had devised to get people into the RepeatCapOffender levels of 1 or 2 cars for 9 months. It is important that you do not sell 9 cars. Depending how many times you sold over this will determine what your true level is. The current recommendation is to only sell 1 car for 15 days to fully recovered from this. Selling more than 1 or not taking a rest from sales for at least 15 days is at your own risk.
  235.  
  236. If you hit a limit message after selling 8 or 6 cars:​
  237. Record the limit you hit and assume you have moved down to the next limit. example: Sold 8 and hit limit= Limit is now 6.​
  238. Make sure you have not sold any vehicles in the last 30 hours.​
  239. Record the time the first vehicle sold as: START TIME 1​
  240. In the next 30hours after your start time, Sell cars, Not violating the 3 per 60 rule. Stop selling when you reach 1 less than your Limit determined in step 1. (You can sell less if you want)​
  241. When you are done selling for that period, always check the price on 1 additional vehicle. Thus proves you did not hit you limit on the previous sale.​
  242. 30 hours after START TIME 1...Repeat 3-5 Record time in Step 3 as: START TIME 2​
  243. 30 hours after START TIME 2...You can increase you limit by 1 and repeat​
  244. Once you are able to sell 8 cars you must not try to sell more. Overselling in 3 consecutive 30 hour periods is likely to move you back down.​
  245.  
  246. 4. Frequently Asked Questions
  247.  
  248. Q. If the max Daily Limit is 40, why do you recommend selling 8 or less?​
  249.  
  250. A. Your exploit level is looked at and calculated over a couple seasons. A new player may be able to sell 40 cars in 30 hours but it will be short lived. Eventually, selling back to back and crossing the threshold multiple times will force an exploit level to be set in. A lot of players only arrive at this thread after their first Daily Limit is Hit (10) or have hit the limit a few times and may destined for repeat cap offender. This is where selling 8 comes in to play. It was tested as a good strategy for almost all players who haven't hit a limit, players who hit the limit once or twice and players who hit their limit multiple times and had worked their way back up.​
  251. Q. I have two characters on my account. Can I sell double the amount?​
  252. A. No. Each Social Club account is allowed 2 characters. These two characters share the same bank account and the same Daily Limit. You do not have individual limits
  253. Q. What is a Daily Limit for Personal Vehicles?​
  254. A. The daily limit is a measure put in the tunable file to deter the exploit of Personal Vehicles sales from duplication glitches​
  255. Q. Should I worry about getting banned for doing this?​
  256. A. No. This is not a glitch or bypass. Think of it as a Strategy Guide.​
  257. Q. How many Vehicles can I sell if I don't have a limit or cap?​
  258. A. The current 30 hour Maximum Personal Vehicle sales is set at 40. You do not want to sell over 8 per 30 hours.​
  259. Q. As long as I maintain the proper spacing between sales can I hit my limit every day and still increase my limit.​
  260. A. No. You want to avoid hitting your limit. Its recommended to take 60 hours off from selling if unsure and attempt to sell 8 and only check the price on #9. Remember these numbers can change and the tunable is updated often.
  261. Q. Can I just not play for a few weeks and my level will automatically adjust.​
  262. A. You do not need to login every day and sell a car to adjust your level. I would try to go online every few days just to be sure you limit raises.​
  263.  
  264. Q. Do I have to sell exactly 1 less than my limit to move up a level?​
  265. A. You can sell anything less than your current limit or none at all. Just do not hit your limit.
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