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- [23:48] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (Wouldnt the returned cars of been inspected first?)
- [23:48] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (By a team of mechanics? since they're police evidence before they're returned)
- [23:49] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (They'd of proably been searched over pretty thoroughly)
- [23:49] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (I remember an FBI investigator coming in and talking to our Criminology class, and the case in particular someone was run over, so the car was police evidence like these are)
- [23:50] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (And he told us it's policy that 9/10 times they'll take the car apart for forensic evidence, to the bare bones, they found a hair on the underside of the hood because of it)
- [23:50] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [As stated earlier, they were searched for drugs. As for bombs, well, if we assumed they looked for them, they were too cleverly hidden]
- [23:50] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Mila, they take the car apart when its an investigation lol)
- [23:51] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Like, completely, because on the off-chance forensice eivdence is left behind on the internals or under-parts)
- [23:51] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [and the number of vehicles involved, taxed their resources. they did what they could, but bombing is the girl's thing. Not Sarah, the other girl
- [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Then the wouldnt return the cars if they werent safe, it's held police evidence till it's cleared)
- [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Which it wasnt if they didnt look at it)
- [23:52] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I hear ya.]
- [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: For you to say this is insulting the city police department in a city full of terrorists and villains)
- [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [That happens all the time in this game. I wouldn't be the first or the last.]
- [23:53] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: It's completely unrealistic and unbelievable to me that they wouldnt check the cars over completely before returning them)
- [23:53] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Even REAL police would look it over)
- [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [they did their best, but the bomber is very clever at what she does.]
- [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [Not sarah, the other girl]
- [23:54] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Mila, since the cars were taken apart and parts were stolen, you can guarantee each one that WAS returned was completely stripped)
- [23:54] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: And taken apart, tires, axils, breaks, etc was probably taken out and looked over for any forensic evidence left behind by the thief)
- [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I've been asked to accept things that I find bullshit all the time, I know the feeling dude. I empathize. But with the precedants set, I've come to accept that I can pretty much get away with anyt
- [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: anything. I'm sorry you don't like it or want to suspend credulity for the sake of the story. But that's how its rolling.
- [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: I am glad you made it though, I was afraid it was just going to be done offscreen]
- [23:55] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: What's the point in killing hundreds of people out?
- [23:55] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: off*
- [23:56] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Because ya know, not only would the FBI involved now, but heroes and law enforcement)
- [23:56] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [You'd have to ask the culprits
- [23:57] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: No, Mila, you dont, you're anal about things ALL the time when it kills people)
- [23:57] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Especially when it's Kala, she cant ever kill someone even though she pprobably just did)
- [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: So no, you cant get away with this, not without being a hypocritical ass)
- [23:58] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [Kala just killed someone?]
- [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: No im talking whenever she would or when zos would say it, you'd retcon or do whatever to say she didnt or complain)
- [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Or you'd make sam or whoever jump through hopes and follow every little prodecure with police and such)
- [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: You dont GET to skip it over now for the convienency of YOUR plot, because thats just not fair)
- [23:59] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [If I seem hipocritical, it's because I've decided to do what everyone else does. If they can do it, why can't I?]
- [23:59] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I'm not going to hold myself to standards that no one else bothers with. I just want to have fun and help Ovact with her character arc.]
- [0:00] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Yeah you can do that, but ignoring every police prodecure and investigative procedure law enforcement does is just stupid)
- [0:00] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: It wouldnt stop the cars in their lot from blowing up, the ones not returned, but i HIGHLY doubt any civis are dying from their cars exploding)
- [0:00] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I hear ya dude. Comic book universe. Comic book rules. etc.etc. I'm going to log now so you can PM me in Steam if you want.]
- 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Mila this isnt even HARD to figure out, this is just blatantly ignoring it
- 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Like, even comics would get this right
- 12:01 AM - fistacuff: They'd impound the cars, take them apart, make sure they're clear and safe, and then return them
- 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Hell, that would probably take MONTH
- 12:02 AM - fistacuff: S
- 12:02 AM - fistacuff: And i also knwo for a FACT
- 12:02 AM - fistacuff: you're going to make me or whoever jump through realistic hoops and times to find sarah
- 12:03 AM - fistacuff: Like you always do
- 12:03 AM - Kala: Nah I'm not going to do that to you.
- 12:03 AM - fistacuff: So you're just suddenly going to change it up now?
- 12:03 AM - Kala: I mean, you're not going to have to jump through hoops and shit to find Sarah.
- 12:03 AM - Kala: She's gone. You might see her again next year.
- 12:04 AM - fistacuff: So wtf was the point in that? No redemption because we never get to fight her?
- 12:04 AM - Kala: the point was to give Cammy a debilitating injury as per her character plot
- 12:04 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, but have Sarah their
- 12:04 AM - fistacuff: Because we need redemption, by the time we find her everyone forgets who she is again
- 12:04 AM - fistacuff: if anyones even in the sg
- 12:05 AM - Kala: Did anyone follow up on Whisper's missing body?
- 12:05 AM - fistacuff: Sam couldnt because he was crippled at the time, but now that he's up and moving he probably is
- 12:05 AM - fistacuff: but Mila
- 12:05 AM - fistacuff: the point of having a villain do something like that
- 12:05 AM - fistacuff: is so the hero can come back and kick their ass or heroes
- 12:06 AM - fistacuff: Like, Knightfall
- 12:06 AM - fistacuff: Batman gets crippled
- 12:06 AM - fistacuff: debilitating injury
- 12:06 AM - fistacuff: comes back kicks his ass
- 12:06 AM - Kala: Whisper's body has been missing for a year.
- 12:07 AM - fistacuff: And you know why NO ONE looked into it Mila?
- 12:07 AM - Kala: I'm not upset about it, was just asking.
- 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Its because you never encouraged people to or told people
- 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Or mentioned it ONCE and never did anything with it
- 12:08 AM - Kala: yep
- 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, a GM moves the story forward, were you waiting for someone?
- 12:08 AM - Kala: No
- 12:09 AM - fistacuff: Clearly you were, you never did anything along with Zeta
- 12:09 AM - Kala: nah, its fine
- 12:09 AM - fistacuff: Having plots like this, work in movies, because you can say "Skip five years" and no one has to actually wait a year or whatever
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: but you lose people's interest whenever you ACTUALLY wait a year
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: And no one remmbers
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: don't be surprised we didnt remember who sarah was
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: Or that Zeta was missing
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: because you made us actually wait
- 12:10 AM - fistacuff: and in that time several hundred other things happened
- 12:10 AM - Kala: I'm not surprised at all.
- 12:11 AM - Kala: Totally expected noone to remember her
- 12:11 AM - Kala: I'm surprised YOU DO.
- 12:11 AM - Kala: Actually, I ought to give you credit for that.
- 12:11 AM - fistacuff: I remember her being dead, and thats fine
- 12:12 AM - fistacuff: pull a red hood on us, we think she's dead but she comes back for vengence for crippling her nearly and etc
- 12:13 AM - fistacuff: But DONT first of all, DONT
- 12:14 AM - fistacuff: Turn things into a cutscene, having us sit there and just have cammy get shot was kind of, just a cutscene
- 12:14 AM - fistacuff: Like, im not MAD she got shot, if its for her plot
- 12:14 AM - fistacuff: but the fact we didnt have say or to put any effort and could just sit there was lame
- 12:15 AM - fistacuff: Could of had SOME mooks to fight instead of just doing the old "Everythings gonna blow up dont move"
- 12:15 AM - Kala: I offered that option.
- 12:15 AM - Kala: Shaleface was part of it.
- 12:15 AM - Kala: Ovact turned it down, I agreed.
- 12:15 AM - Kala: And.. let's be honest, if i was going to have Cammy shot with any character you were playing in the room, it never would have happened.
- 12:16 AM - Kala: You don't allow those kinds of things.
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: No man, i dont give a shit about that
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Im not even bothered by that, mila
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Im bothered we just had to sit there and let it happen
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Ive let shit happen like that for plot all the time
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: sams base getting found
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: sams shit getting stolen
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: ecetera
- 12:16 AM - fistacuff: but having it be a cutscene is lame
- 12:16 AM - Kala: Sorry you feel that way.
- 12:17 AM - fistacuff: I know you arent going to let it happen, but sams going to be looking for Sarah
- 12:17 AM - fistacuff: I know you're going to stonewall it
- 12:18 AM - Kala: I am, yeah.
- 12:18 AM - Kala: There's no purpose in letting her get caught.
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: But you know what i'd rather have?
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: Sam finds her
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: it doesnt have to be on screen
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: but she can escape from him
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: they fight
- 12:18 AM - fistacuff: she escapes
- 12:18 AM - Kala: we know that won't work out at all
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Because that atleast acknowledges Sams skills and doesnt skip them
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Dude
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: i just said it can be off screen
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: As in, they fight and she escapes off screen
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: We dont even have to RP it
- 12:19 AM - Kala: Okay.
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: I'd rather have her escape, then sam unable to find her at all
- 12:19 AM - Kala: That works for me.
- 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Im not saying he should find her easily at all, he can find her maybe twice
- 12:20 AM - Kala: In fact, let Sam get a piece of her as a momento. Take her robo eye.
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: Or once even, and she can escape with an ultimatum
- 12:20 AM - Kala: memento?
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: He's got her beat, but she has bombs or some shit rigged somewhere
- 12:20 AM - Kala: memoment?
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: and its the "Arrest me and they die"
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: etc
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: So he lets her go so she escapes
- 12:20 AM - fistacuff: And saves the people
- 12:20 AM - Kala: Actually i was going to use that arrest me or die thing with the cars and bombs and stuff.
- 12:21 AM - fistacuff: Id rather of done that then the bombs be on us
- 12:21 AM - Kala: Me too.
- 12:21 AM - fistacuff: If you're willing to trade off, just say no passengers died
- 12:22 AM - fistacuff: because thats unrealistic, and the only part im frustrated at YOU with
- 12:22 AM - fistacuff: Not even the bombs anymore, because that wasnt your choice
- 12:22 AM - Kala: hmm..
- 12:23 AM - Kala: nah, gonna keep the gratuitous death, as in other events I've asked that we not kill people for killings sake, especially children, and was shut down. I feel like this is okay, as others have done so.
- 12:24 AM - fistacuff: Thats mainly just Zos, idk why you're putting it on us
- 12:24 AM - Kala: We had that conversation before.
- 12:26 AM - fistacuff: And we both agreed children dying is kinda pointless
- 12:26 AM - Kala: Its not just pointless, it makes me angry.
- 12:26 AM - Kala: Like, IRL angry.
- 12:27 AM - fistacuff: What bugs me, is sam was too crippled to help out looking into the cars
- 12:28 AM - fistacuff: because if he wasnt crippled he'd of probably found the bombs and the lot possibly
- 12:28 AM - fistacuff: Unless you'd of stonewalled that too
- 12:28 AM - Kala: I would not have.
- 12:28 AM - Kala: But it wouldn't have been easy.
- 12:30 AM - fistacuff: Im sure he could of found it
- 12:30 AM - fistacuff: He'd or probably ya know, done what the police shoud of
- 12:30 AM - Kala: I hope he wouldn't that would spoil the plot.
- 12:30 AM - fistacuff: had the cars taken apart and looked over
- 12:31 AM - fistacuff: He'd of probably found the bombs at that point, eventually, then had them all impounded and not returned to the people until they were clear
- 12:31 AM - Kala: That's basically saying that Sam's ability to find the bombs supersedes whatsherface's ability to craft them and hide them.
- 12:32 AM - fistacuff: Oh not sam, sam and probably a few explosives experts on the MCPD and otherwise
- 12:32 AM - fistacuff: He wouldnt be able to take them apart alone and look them over
- 12:32 AM - Kala: oh
- 12:32 AM - fistacuff: After that
- 12:32 AM - Kala: you weren't expecting to find
- 12:32 AM - Kala: like a block of C4 under the hood were you?
- 12:32 AM - fistacuff: Nope, like i said, police evidence when it comes to cars is usually completely taken apart
- 12:32 AM - fistacuff: so, the cars would of been stripped, and with a team it'd only be a matter of time
- 12:33 AM - Kala: you're expecting that the bomb was an object attached or hidden in the floorboards or something?
- 12:33 AM - fistacuff: Nah, the bomb could be anything wired wrong to set the engine to overheart and blow, or the gas tank to explode, it wouldnt have to be a physical bomb
- 12:33 AM - fistacuff: BUT
- 12:34 AM - fistacuff: after that it's a case of finding the other cars
- 12:34 AM - Kala: yeah, once you found how the bomb was hidden in one car, the rest will easily be found
- 12:34 AM - fistacuff: Sapphire told him they were found in a lot, and thats the only place you could fit 100 cars
- 12:34 AM - fistacuff: So, the obvious place to look, would be in public lots
- 12:35 AM - fistacuff: Though
- 12:35 AM - fistacuff: that'd be difficult because if you repaint eco cars and change the plates, knowing its them would be difficult
- 12:36 AM - fistacuff: Thats the only part i'd find difficult, figuring out its the same cars stolen
- 12:36 AM - Kala: No, she said they were in a covered parking garage that was abandoned.
- 12:36 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, so, he'd start there probably
- 12:36 AM - fistacuff: outskirts of town, abandoned lots
- 12:37 AM - fistacuff: once nothings there he'd move inward towards city areas
- 12:37 AM - fistacuff: Probably look into dealerships that recently acquired a lot of cars
- 12:37 AM - Kala: I totally expected for Sam to ask Saint Sapphire who owned the building. Especially after she said she spoke to the owners and they had no idea about their abandoned lot being used.
- 12:38 AM - fistacuff: Eh, i figured it'd just be joe or whoever, some no name that mattered
- 12:39 AM - fistacuff: Once you crossed out any abandoned lots or etc
- 12:39 AM - fistacuff: you'd have to turn to lots being used or owned, car dealerships, ask if they had acquired any cars recently
- 12:40 AM - Kala: there's still a lot fo unaswered questions ,yes.
- 12:40 AM - Kala: How did they do this or that, etc.
- 12:40 AM - Kala: Its too bad I couldn't feature Shaleface in this more.
- 12:43 AM - fistacuff: The issue that was the biggest, was that sam trusted sapphire, because he wasnt given any huge reason not too
- 12:43 AM - Kala: That was bad timing. See, we weren't on and playing at regular times.
- 12:43 AM - fistacuff: What sucks, is because he was crippled, she was his proxy for investigating, so no matter what he told her to do she could of lied
- 12:43 AM - Kala: You'd have found out if we had more constant RP.
- 12:44 AM - Kala: There was a great deal that occured before hius injury though.
- 12:44 AM - Kala: But he was very focused with plucky.
- 12:44 AM - fistacuff: Yeah but icly his time was devoted to finding his sister
- 12:45 AM - fistacuff: Im sure we'd of never found out sapphire was rubin though
- 12:45 AM - fistacuff: because
- 12:45 AM - fistacuff: i actually thought she was dead, due to brute
- 12:45 AM - Kala: Brute and Jack and Niko fucked her up really good.
- 12:46 AM - Kala: Jack literally shot her limbs off. Niko gave her 3rd degree burns over most of her body. And brute broke just about everything else.
- 12:46 AM - Kala: I think.. I don't remember what Brute did.
- 12:46 AM - Kala: I think he stepped on her chest.
- 12:46 AM - fistacuff: I dont think i was there for this, actually
- 12:46 AM - Kala: You were!!
- 12:46 AM - Kala: You beat someone up with a BBQ grill
- 12:46 AM - Kala: It was your finest work!
- 12:46 AM - fistacuff: Ahhh, i dont remember jack and niko being there lol
- 12:46 AM - Kala: You wielded a spatula!
- 12:47 AM - fistacuff: I remember will, zeta, cammy, alannah, and cole
- 12:47 AM - Kala: Rhys was there too, he got shot.
- 12:47 AM - fistacuff: It was awhile ago, but, i assumed she was dead in general
- 12:47 AM - Kala: It was a safe assumption.
- 12:47 AM - Kala: the log is still there if you want to see it
- 12:47 AM - Kala: 08/20/2016
- 12:48 AM - fistacuff: I dont think there's any reasonable means sam would of found out it's sarah
- 12:48 AM - fistacuff: only meta-gaming could of done that
- 12:51 AM - fistacuff: And you probably wouldnt of let him didscover its her either, cuz of plot lol
- 12:52 AM - Kala: nope, untrue.
- 12:52 AM - Kala: but
- 12:52 AM - Kala: let me ask you
- 12:52 AM - Kala: shall I omit the part you wanted retconned out of the log?
- 12:52 AM - Kala: or keep it in there for posterirty
- 12:52 AM - fistacuff: Yeah keep it out
- 12:52 AM - Kala: okay, I'll do that for you, but I wouldn't otherwise.
- 12:56 AM - fistacuff: I feel like i should of done more detective work on this
- 12:56 AM - fistacuff: or better quality
- 12:58 AM - Kala: OMG
- 12:58 AM - Kala: my
- 12:58 AM - Kala: mt
- 12:59 AM - fistacuff: What'd you think?
- 12:59 AM - Kala: I feel like you did what you were capable of doing. My schedule has me on late nights, outside of your schedule and you were ball's deep in Plucky.
- 1:00 AM - Kala: that's sounds X rated
- 1:01 AM - fistacuff: Eh i feel like i could of done more
- 1:02 AM - Kala: We are agreed that Sam can RP that he caught up with Sarah and they traded blows, he maybe got her electronic eye, but she got away in the end. Yeah?
- 1:03 AM - fistacuff: Yeah in the future after looking for her for a bit
- 1:04 AM - Kala: okay, you have full license to color that up anyway you like, just let me know what story you tell so I can be on the same page.
- 1:04 AM - fistacuff: Ok, but i feel like i could of done more in the ways of investigating this, but he was crippled
- 1:05 AM - Kala: Well, I have a whole year to come up with another 08/20 plot that you can investigate the hell out of and foil before I can launch it.
- 1:05 AM - Kala: lol
- 1:05 AM - Kala: oh you were out of local and so didn't hear this:
- 1:06 AM - fistacuff: ?
- 1:06 AM - Kala: [23:45] Kalamylee@kalamylee cammy's house phone would ring and perhaps her answering machine picks up. the other's would hear a message.
- [23:45] [Local] Kalamylee@kalamylee: Sarah Rubin's voice, "Happy Birthday bitch. See you next year."
- 1:07 AM - fistacuff: Ah, what'd you generally think of sam's detective skills and mine?
- 1:07 AM - Kala: you know I like your detective skills
- 1:08 AM - Kala: you're the reason I come up with complicated plots
- 1:08 AM - Kala: or at least, what I call complicated plots.
- 1:08 AM - fistacuff: I never figure them out, though
- 1:09 AM - Kala: yeah, that's my fault
- 1:09 AM - Kala: I need to make them less obtuse
- 1:09 AM - Kala: Even Daraxe tells me that.
- 1:10 AM - fistacuff: What'd you mean obtuse?
- 1:11 AM - Kala: I've been told my plots are as easy to solve with the clues I leave.
- 1:11 AM - Kala: aren't*
- 1:12 AM - fistacuff: They arent, because the clues are just general information that can relate back to ANYTHING
- 1:12 AM - fistacuff: Its not really a clue
- 1:14 AM - fistacuff: The information makes sense when you bring about the big picture
- 1:14 AM - fistacuff: but
- 1:14 AM - fistacuff: you dont leave enough for someone to get to the big picture
- 1:15 AM - Kala: Granted.
- 1:15 AM - Kala: I wait for questions to be asked that lead to answers which should lead to more questions.
- 1:15 AM - Kala: I follow a structure I learned in college.
- 1:17 AM - fistacuff: You do, but still even those clues arent always relevant
- 1:17 AM - fistacuff: you have to consider that to tell a story, you should give a few throw offs, but give some possible good answers too
- 1:18 AM - fistacuff: YOU
- 1:18 AM - fistacuff: what you'll do is give a dozen upon dozens of throw offs, and let people waste time with those instead of just saying its fruitless
- 1:18 AM - Kala: Hmm idk, I'm pretty sure I've told you when something was fruitless or not.
- 1:18 AM - fistacuff: But with the clues you give, and the little information, ANYTHING is just as viable as any other option
- 1:18 AM - fistacuff: You do that too
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: You make almost ever yoption viable and theres a lot of options
- 1:19 AM - Kala: There was thing I was afraid you were going to do that would have totally spoiled my plot.
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: Like this for example
- 1:19 AM - Kala: Do you want to know what it was?
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: What?
- 1:19 AM - Kala: Go to St. Louis and try and talk to the active Saint and their mentior.
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: I DID
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: YOU FUCKING DINK LOL
- 1:19 AM - fistacuff: I asked you and you said, verbedum
- 1:19 AM - Kala: verbatim*
- 1:20 AM - fistacuff: "It wouldnt of mattered they arent important to the plot"
- 1:20 AM - fistacuff: I did, i said sam would probably go do that, and you said it was pointless lol
- 1:20 AM - Kala: lol did I say that?
- 1:20 AM - fistacuff: YES
- 1:20 AM - fistacuff: YOU DID
- 1:20 AM - Kala: hmm..
- 1:20 AM - Kala: OH RIght.
- 1:20 AM - fistacuff: Like, thats why i never mentioned it to ya
- 1:20 AM - Kala: Well, sorry about that. At the time you asked that it was 100% true.
- 1:20 AM - Kala: But, things got changed for Cammy's sake.
- 1:20 AM - Kala: See, you did what you could!
- 1:21 AM - fistacuff: Ah, so, i probably would of figured it out then lol what would the former sapphire and that of told him?
- 1:21 AM - Kala: Well at the time you asked, nothing helpful.
- 1:21 AM - Kala: If it had been after the change, theeeeey would have said that the Saint was ded ded ded. The new saint is the only Saint.
- 1:22 AM - Kala: So, not your fault.
- 1:23 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, i guess not, that would of been key in the plot to know lol
- 1:24 AM - fistacuff: The impression i got from that, and the way you reacted oocly to sapphire being treated as a sorta criminal when sam assumed she had to do with the first helicopters
- 1:24 AM - fistacuff: was that it was apart of something else and she wasnt involved at all
- 1:24 AM - fistacuff: so
- 1:24 AM - Kala: well, I don't think Sam would have had time to talk to them anyway. Reaching them by phone would have been impossible. He'd have had to find the Saint in the streets, convince her to talk to her, convince her to let Sam speak to her mentor and etc. and he was too busy with Plucky to do that and out of commision with injuries afterwards.
- 1:24 AM - fistacuff: i stopped looking into her lol
- 1:25 AM - fistacuff: Thats why i stopped looking at sapphire as the cause, really, you threw me a lot of signs icly and oocly to basically say she wasnt behind it lol
- 1:25 AM - Kala: Yeah, I did that.
- 1:25 AM - fistacuff: its why i assumed it was some technopath or gang stealing the cars
- 1:25 AM - Kala: Well, you're not half wrong there either.
- 1:25 AM - Kala: There's a lot of unanswered questions still.
- 1:26 AM - Kala: But, hey why don't you say you took a trip to Missouri and spoke with the current Saint (with much difficulty) and found out that Saint you guys had was an imposter.
- 1:26 AM - Kala: So that's something else Sam uncovered.
- 1:26 AM - fistacuff: Well whats it matter now? lol obviously its an imposter
- 1:27 AM - fistacuff: But when did you change sapphire into being a criminal? Because i dont think it was meant from the start to be one
- 1:30 AM - fistacuff: Like was she ACTUALLY meant to be a hero in the team in the beginning?
- 1:33 AM - Kala: Yes, but what was going to happen was Sarah was going to murder her, and take her place towards the last few days or maybe even the last week. But all along it would have been the genuine article.
- 1:33 AM - Kala: Thus, the mask being the real Saint's undoing.
- 1:34 AM - Kala: Had she been trusting and revealed her face earlier, she wouldn't have been murdered and her place taken.
- 1:34 AM - Kala: Or at the very least, Sarah would have been discovered because she wouldn
- 1:34 AM - Kala: casually unmask with evryone else
- 1:34 AM - fistacuff: Why did ovact want you to shoot carmen, exactly?
- 1:35 AM - Kala: Ovact has a very interesting and deep story arc. She wanted a specific injury to occur in order to forward her arc. She allowed me to have the honor in being the catalyst.
- 1:36 AM - fistacuff: Whats the arc?
- 1:36 AM - Kala: I don't know if I should tell you. That's Ovact's thing. I am pretty sure she hasn't told me all of it anyway.
- 1:36 AM - fistacuff: im curious is all lol
- 1:37 AM - Kala: I am too.l
- 1:38 AM - fistacuff: Is hunter going to be crippled now?
- 1:39 AM - Kala: That's up to Ovact, but I assume she's going to have an injury. I don't know how bad or for how long.
- 1:39 AM - Kala: Whatever it is, isn't something Kala can fix.
- 1:39 AM - fistacuff: I didnt understand it, thats why this doesnt make sense to me
- 1:39 AM - fistacuff: you changed everything up for ovact last minute almost and it threw me off lol
- 1:40 AM - Kala: not last minute
- 1:40 AM - Kala: the decision for Saint to be Sarah instead of the geunine article was discussed and determined uh.. a month ago? Maybe? idk.
- 1:40 AM - Kala: Was a while ago, but after Sam asked about the St. Louis counterparts.
- 1:44 AM - fistacuff: Ah, if he wasnt crippled im sure he'd of found the cars
- 1:44 AM - Kala: maybe
- 1:44 AM - Kala: I mean, I had to hide them somewhere, right?
- 1:45 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, and honestly? I didnt assume they were on a public lot because, again, sam was trusting sapphire at the time lol
- 1:45 AM - fistacuff: I figured she'd even be able to figure that one out
- 1:45 AM - fistacuff: So, of course with her being hte proxy they were never going to get found unless someone physically went out and looked
- 1:46 AM - Kala: yep
- 1:47 AM - Kala: Well Sapph wasn't going to be able to solve that crime regardless of whether she was Sapph or Sarah.
- 1:49 AM - fistacuff: True lol but i would of hopped sam could solve it if he was physically able to investigate
- 1:49 AM - Kala: sure
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