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  1. [23:48] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (Wouldnt the returned cars of been inspected first?)
  2. [23:48] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (By a team of mechanics? since they're police evidence before they're returned)
  3. [23:49] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (They'd of proably been searched over pretty thoroughly)
  4. [23:49] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (I remember an FBI investigator coming in and talking to our Criminology class, and the case in particular someone was run over, so the car was police evidence like these are)
  5. [23:50] [YC Events] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: (And he told us it's policy that 9/10 times they'll take the car apart for forensic evidence, to the bare bones, they found a hair on the underside of the hood because of it)
  6. [23:50] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [As stated earlier, they were searched for drugs. As for bombs, well, if we assumed they looked for them, they were too cleverly hidden]
  7. [23:50] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Mila, they take the car apart when its an investigation lol)
  8. [23:51] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Like, completely, because on the off-chance forensice eivdence is left behind on the internals or under-parts)
  9. [23:51] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [and the number of vehicles involved, taxed their resources. they did what they could, but bombing is the girl's thing. Not Sarah, the other girl
  10. [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Then the wouldnt return the cars if they werent safe, it's held police evidence till it's cleared)
  11. [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Which it wasnt if they didnt look at it)
  12.  
  13. [23:52] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I hear ya.]
  14. [23:52] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: For you to say this is insulting the city police department in a city full of terrorists and villains)
  15. [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [That happens all the time in this game. I wouldn't be the first or the last.]
  16.  
  17. [23:53] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: It's completely unrealistic and unbelievable to me that they wouldnt check the cars over completely before returning them)
  18. [23:53] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Even REAL police would look it over)
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  22. [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [they did their best, but the bomber is very clever at what she does.]
  23. [23:53] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [Not sarah, the other girl]
  24. [23:54] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Mila, since the cars were taken apart and parts were stolen, you can guarantee each one that WAS returned was completely stripped)
  25. [23:54] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: And taken apart, tires, axils, breaks, etc was probably taken out and looked over for any forensic evidence left behind by the thief)
  26.  
  27. [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I've been asked to accept things that I find bullshit all the time, I know the feeling dude. I empathize. But with the precedants set, I've come to accept that I can pretty much get away with anyt
  28. [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: anything. I'm sorry you don't like it or want to suspend credulity for the sake of the story. But that's how its rolling.
  29.  
  30. [23:55] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: I am glad you made it though, I was afraid it was just going to be done offscreen]
  31. [23:55] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: What's the point in killing hundreds of people out?
  32. [23:55] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: off*
  33. [23:56] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Because ya know, not only would the FBI involved now, but heroes and law enforcement)
  34. [23:56] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [You'd have to ask the culprits
  35. [23:57] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: No, Mila, you dont, you're anal about things ALL the time when it kills people)
  36.  
  37. [23:57] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Especially when it's Kala, she cant ever kill someone even though she pprobably just did)
  38. [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: So no, you cant get away with this, not without being a hypocritical ass)
  39. [23:58] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [Kala just killed someone?]
  40. [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: No im talking whenever she would or when zos would say it, you'd retcon or do whatever to say she didnt or complain)
  41. [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Or you'd make sam or whoever jump through hopes and follow every little prodecure with police and such)
  42. [23:58] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: You dont GET to skip it over now for the convienency of YOUR plot, because thats just not fair)
  43. [23:59] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [If I seem hipocritical, it's because I've decided to do what everyone else does. If they can do it, why can't I?]
  44. [23:59] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I'm not going to hold myself to standards that no one else bothers with. I just want to have fun and help Ovact with her character arc.]
  45. [0:00] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: Yeah you can do that, but ignoring every police prodecure and investigative procedure law enforcement does is just stupid)
  46. [0:00] [Tell] Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: It wouldnt stop the cars in their lot from blowing up, the ones not returned, but i HIGHLY doubt any civis are dying from their cars exploding)
  47. [0:00] [Tell] To Cassowary@theshadowinthenight: [I hear ya dude. Comic book universe. Comic book rules. etc.etc. I'm going to log now so you can PM me in Steam if you want.]
  48.  
  49. 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Mila this isnt even HARD to figure out, this is just blatantly ignoring it
  50. 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Like, even comics would get this right
  51. 12:01 AM - fistacuff: They'd impound the cars, take them apart, make sure they're clear and safe, and then return them
  52. 12:01 AM - fistacuff: Hell, that would probably take MONTH
  53. 12:02 AM - fistacuff: S
  54. 12:02 AM - fistacuff: And i also knwo for a FACT
  55. 12:02 AM - fistacuff: you're going to make me or whoever jump through realistic hoops and times to find sarah
  56. 12:03 AM - fistacuff: Like you always do
  57. 12:03 AM - Kala: Nah I'm not going to do that to you.
  58. 12:03 AM - fistacuff: So you're just suddenly going to change it up now?
  59. 12:03 AM - Kala: I mean, you're not going to have to jump through hoops and shit to find Sarah.
  60. 12:03 AM - Kala: She's gone. You might see her again next year.
  61. 12:04 AM - fistacuff: So wtf was the point in that? No redemption because we never get to fight her?
  62. 12:04 AM - Kala: the point was to give Cammy a debilitating injury as per her character plot
  63. 12:04 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, but have Sarah their
  64. 12:04 AM - fistacuff: Because we need redemption, by the time we find her everyone forgets who she is again
  65. 12:04 AM - fistacuff: if anyones even in the sg
  66. 12:05 AM - Kala: Did anyone follow up on Whisper's missing body?
  67. 12:05 AM - fistacuff: Sam couldnt because he was crippled at the time, but now that he's up and moving he probably is
  68. 12:05 AM - fistacuff: but Mila
  69. 12:05 AM - fistacuff: the point of having a villain do something like that
  70. 12:05 AM - fistacuff: is so the hero can come back and kick their ass or heroes
  71. 12:06 AM - fistacuff: Like, Knightfall
  72. 12:06 AM - fistacuff: Batman gets crippled
  73. 12:06 AM - fistacuff: debilitating injury
  74. 12:06 AM - fistacuff: comes back kicks his ass
  75. 12:06 AM - Kala: Whisper's body has been missing for a year.
  76. 12:07 AM - fistacuff: And you know why NO ONE looked into it Mila?
  77. 12:07 AM - Kala: I'm not upset about it, was just asking.
  78. 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Its because you never encouraged people to or told people
  79. 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Or mentioned it ONCE and never did anything with it
  80. 12:08 AM - Kala: yep
  81. 12:08 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, a GM moves the story forward, were you waiting for someone?
  82. 12:08 AM - Kala: No
  83. 12:09 AM - fistacuff: Clearly you were, you never did anything along with Zeta
  84. 12:09 AM - Kala: nah, its fine
  85. 12:09 AM - fistacuff: Having plots like this, work in movies, because you can say "Skip five years" and no one has to actually wait a year or whatever
  86. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: but you lose people's interest whenever you ACTUALLY wait a year
  87. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: And no one remmbers
  88. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: don't be surprised we didnt remember who sarah was
  89. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: Or that Zeta was missing
  90. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: because you made us actually wait
  91. 12:10 AM - fistacuff: and in that time several hundred other things happened
  92. 12:10 AM - Kala: I'm not surprised at all.
  93. 12:11 AM - Kala: Totally expected noone to remember her
  94. 12:11 AM - Kala: I'm surprised YOU DO.
  95. 12:11 AM - Kala: Actually, I ought to give you credit for that.
  96. 12:11 AM - fistacuff: I remember her being dead, and thats fine
  97. 12:12 AM - fistacuff: pull a red hood on us, we think she's dead but she comes back for vengence for crippling her nearly and etc
  98. 12:13 AM - fistacuff: But DONT first of all, DONT
  99. 12:14 AM - fistacuff: Turn things into a cutscene, having us sit there and just have cammy get shot was kind of, just a cutscene
  100. 12:14 AM - fistacuff: Like, im not MAD she got shot, if its for her plot
  101. 12:14 AM - fistacuff: but the fact we didnt have say or to put any effort and could just sit there was lame
  102. 12:15 AM - fistacuff: Could of had SOME mooks to fight instead of just doing the old "Everythings gonna blow up dont move"
  103. 12:15 AM - Kala: I offered that option.
  104. 12:15 AM - Kala: Shaleface was part of it.
  105. 12:15 AM - Kala: Ovact turned it down, I agreed.
  106. 12:15 AM - Kala: And.. let's be honest, if i was going to have Cammy shot with any character you were playing in the room, it never would have happened.
  107. 12:16 AM - Kala: You don't allow those kinds of things.
  108. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: No man, i dont give a shit about that
  109. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Im not even bothered by that, mila
  110. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Im bothered we just had to sit there and let it happen
  111. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: Ive let shit happen like that for plot all the time
  112. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: sams base getting found
  113. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: sams shit getting stolen
  114. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: ecetera
  115. 12:16 AM - fistacuff: but having it be a cutscene is lame
  116. 12:16 AM - Kala: Sorry you feel that way.
  117. 12:17 AM - fistacuff: I know you arent going to let it happen, but sams going to be looking for Sarah
  118. 12:17 AM - fistacuff: I know you're going to stonewall it
  119. 12:18 AM - Kala: I am, yeah.
  120. 12:18 AM - Kala: There's no purpose in letting her get caught.
  121. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: But you know what i'd rather have?
  122. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: Sam finds her
  123. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: it doesnt have to be on screen
  124. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: but she can escape from him
  125. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: they fight
  126. 12:18 AM - fistacuff: she escapes
  127. 12:18 AM - Kala: we know that won't work out at all
  128. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Because that atleast acknowledges Sams skills and doesnt skip them
  129. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Dude
  130. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: i just said it can be off screen
  131. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: As in, they fight and she escapes off screen
  132. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: We dont even have to RP it
  133. 12:19 AM - Kala: Okay.
  134. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: I'd rather have her escape, then sam unable to find her at all
  135. 12:19 AM - Kala: That works for me.
  136. 12:19 AM - fistacuff: Im not saying he should find her easily at all, he can find her maybe twice
  137. 12:20 AM - Kala: In fact, let Sam get a piece of her as a momento. Take her robo eye.
  138. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: Or once even, and she can escape with an ultimatum
  139. 12:20 AM - Kala: memento?
  140. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: He's got her beat, but she has bombs or some shit rigged somewhere
  141. 12:20 AM - Kala: memoment?
  142. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: and its the "Arrest me and they die"
  143. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: etc
  144. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: So he lets her go so she escapes
  145. 12:20 AM - fistacuff: And saves the people
  146. 12:20 AM - Kala: Actually i was going to use that arrest me or die thing with the cars and bombs and stuff.
  147. 12:21 AM - fistacuff: Id rather of done that then the bombs be on us
  148. 12:21 AM - Kala: Me too.
  149. 12:21 AM - fistacuff: If you're willing to trade off, just say no passengers died
  150. 12:22 AM - fistacuff: because thats unrealistic, and the only part im frustrated at YOU with
  151. 12:22 AM - fistacuff: Not even the bombs anymore, because that wasnt your choice
  152. 12:22 AM - Kala: hmm..
  153. 12:23 AM - Kala: nah, gonna keep the gratuitous death, as in other events I've asked that we not kill people for killings sake, especially children, and was shut down. I feel like this is okay, as others have done so.
  154. 12:24 AM - fistacuff: Thats mainly just Zos, idk why you're putting it on us
  155. 12:24 AM - Kala: We had that conversation before.
  156. 12:26 AM - fistacuff: And we both agreed children dying is kinda pointless
  157. 12:26 AM - Kala: Its not just pointless, it makes me angry.
  158. 12:26 AM - Kala: Like, IRL angry.
  159. 12:27 AM - fistacuff: What bugs me, is sam was too crippled to help out looking into the cars
  160. 12:28 AM - fistacuff: because if he wasnt crippled he'd of probably found the bombs and the lot possibly
  161. 12:28 AM - fistacuff: Unless you'd of stonewalled that too
  162. 12:28 AM - Kala: I would not have.
  163. 12:28 AM - Kala: But it wouldn't have been easy.
  164. 12:30 AM - fistacuff: Im sure he could of found it
  165. 12:30 AM - fistacuff: He'd or probably ya know, done what the police shoud of
  166. 12:30 AM - Kala: I hope he wouldn't that would spoil the plot.
  167. 12:30 AM - fistacuff: had the cars taken apart and looked over
  168. 12:31 AM - fistacuff: He'd of probably found the bombs at that point, eventually, then had them all impounded and not returned to the people until they were clear
  169. 12:31 AM - Kala: That's basically saying that Sam's ability to find the bombs supersedes whatsherface's ability to craft them and hide them.
  170. 12:32 AM - fistacuff: Oh not sam, sam and probably a few explosives experts on the MCPD and otherwise
  171. 12:32 AM - fistacuff: He wouldnt be able to take them apart alone and look them over
  172. 12:32 AM - Kala: oh
  173. 12:32 AM - fistacuff: After that
  174. 12:32 AM - Kala: you weren't expecting to find
  175. 12:32 AM - Kala: like a block of C4 under the hood were you?
  176. 12:32 AM - fistacuff: Nope, like i said, police evidence when it comes to cars is usually completely taken apart
  177. 12:32 AM - fistacuff: so, the cars would of been stripped, and with a team it'd only be a matter of time
  178. 12:33 AM - Kala: you're expecting that the bomb was an object attached or hidden in the floorboards or something?
  179. 12:33 AM - fistacuff: Nah, the bomb could be anything wired wrong to set the engine to overheart and blow, or the gas tank to explode, it wouldnt have to be a physical bomb
  180. 12:33 AM - fistacuff: BUT
  181. 12:34 AM - fistacuff: after that it's a case of finding the other cars
  182. 12:34 AM - Kala: yeah, once you found how the bomb was hidden in one car, the rest will easily be found
  183. 12:34 AM - fistacuff: Sapphire told him they were found in a lot, and thats the only place you could fit 100 cars
  184. 12:34 AM - fistacuff: So, the obvious place to look, would be in public lots
  185. 12:35 AM - fistacuff: Though
  186. 12:35 AM - fistacuff: that'd be difficult because if you repaint eco cars and change the plates, knowing its them would be difficult
  187. 12:36 AM - fistacuff: Thats the only part i'd find difficult, figuring out its the same cars stolen
  188. 12:36 AM - Kala: No, she said they were in a covered parking garage that was abandoned.
  189. 12:36 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, so, he'd start there probably
  190. 12:36 AM - fistacuff: outskirts of town, abandoned lots
  191. 12:37 AM - fistacuff: once nothings there he'd move inward towards city areas
  192. 12:37 AM - fistacuff: Probably look into dealerships that recently acquired a lot of cars
  193. 12:37 AM - Kala: I totally expected for Sam to ask Saint Sapphire who owned the building. Especially after she said she spoke to the owners and they had no idea about their abandoned lot being used.
  194. 12:38 AM - fistacuff: Eh, i figured it'd just be joe or whoever, some no name that mattered
  195. 12:39 AM - fistacuff: Once you crossed out any abandoned lots or etc
  196. 12:39 AM - fistacuff: you'd have to turn to lots being used or owned, car dealerships, ask if they had acquired any cars recently
  197. 12:40 AM - Kala: there's still a lot fo unaswered questions ,yes.
  198. 12:40 AM - Kala: How did they do this or that, etc.
  199. 12:40 AM - Kala: Its too bad I couldn't feature Shaleface in this more.
  200. 12:43 AM - fistacuff: The issue that was the biggest, was that sam trusted sapphire, because he wasnt given any huge reason not too
  201. 12:43 AM - Kala: That was bad timing. See, we weren't on and playing at regular times.
  202. 12:43 AM - fistacuff: What sucks, is because he was crippled, she was his proxy for investigating, so no matter what he told her to do she could of lied
  203. 12:43 AM - Kala: You'd have found out if we had more constant RP.
  204. 12:44 AM - Kala: There was a great deal that occured before hius injury though.
  205. 12:44 AM - Kala: But he was very focused with plucky.
  206. 12:44 AM - fistacuff: Yeah but icly his time was devoted to finding his sister
  207. 12:45 AM - fistacuff: Im sure we'd of never found out sapphire was rubin though
  208. 12:45 AM - fistacuff: because
  209. 12:45 AM - fistacuff: i actually thought she was dead, due to brute
  210. 12:45 AM - Kala: Brute and Jack and Niko fucked her up really good.
  211. 12:46 AM - Kala: Jack literally shot her limbs off. Niko gave her 3rd degree burns over most of her body. And brute broke just about everything else.
  212. 12:46 AM - Kala: I think.. I don't remember what Brute did.
  213. 12:46 AM - Kala: I think he stepped on her chest.
  214. 12:46 AM - fistacuff: I dont think i was there for this, actually
  215. 12:46 AM - Kala: You were!!
  216. 12:46 AM - Kala: You beat someone up with a BBQ grill
  217. 12:46 AM - Kala: It was your finest work!
  218. 12:46 AM - fistacuff: Ahhh, i dont remember jack and niko being there lol
  219. 12:46 AM - Kala: You wielded a spatula!
  220. 12:47 AM - fistacuff: I remember will, zeta, cammy, alannah, and cole
  221. 12:47 AM - Kala: Rhys was there too, he got shot.
  222. 12:47 AM - fistacuff: It was awhile ago, but, i assumed she was dead in general
  223. 12:47 AM - Kala: It was a safe assumption.
  224. 12:47 AM - Kala: the log is still there if you want to see it
  225. 12:47 AM - Kala: 08/20/2016
  226. 12:48 AM - fistacuff: I dont think there's any reasonable means sam would of found out it's sarah
  227. 12:48 AM - fistacuff: only meta-gaming could of done that
  228. 12:51 AM - fistacuff: And you probably wouldnt of let him didscover its her either, cuz of plot lol
  229. 12:52 AM - Kala: nope, untrue.
  230. 12:52 AM - Kala: but
  231. 12:52 AM - Kala: let me ask you
  232. 12:52 AM - Kala: shall I omit the part you wanted retconned out of the log?
  233. 12:52 AM - Kala: or keep it in there for posterirty
  234. 12:52 AM - fistacuff: Yeah keep it out
  235. 12:52 AM - Kala: okay, I'll do that for you, but I wouldn't otherwise.
  236. 12:56 AM - fistacuff: I feel like i should of done more detective work on this
  237. 12:56 AM - fistacuff: or better quality
  238. 12:58 AM - Kala: OMG
  239. 12:58 AM - Kala: my
  240. 12:58 AM - Kala: mt
  241. 12:59 AM - fistacuff: What'd you think?
  242. 12:59 AM - Kala: I feel like you did what you were capable of doing. My schedule has me on late nights, outside of your schedule and you were ball's deep in Plucky.
  243. 1:00 AM - Kala: that's sounds X rated
  244. 1:01 AM - fistacuff: Eh i feel like i could of done more
  245. 1:02 AM - Kala: We are agreed that Sam can RP that he caught up with Sarah and they traded blows, he maybe got her electronic eye, but she got away in the end. Yeah?
  246. 1:03 AM - fistacuff: Yeah in the future after looking for her for a bit
  247. 1:04 AM - Kala: okay, you have full license to color that up anyway you like, just let me know what story you tell so I can be on the same page.
  248. 1:04 AM - fistacuff: Ok, but i feel like i could of done more in the ways of investigating this, but he was crippled
  249. 1:05 AM - Kala: Well, I have a whole year to come up with another 08/20 plot that you can investigate the hell out of and foil before I can launch it.
  250. 1:05 AM - Kala: lol
  251. 1:05 AM - Kala: oh you were out of local and so didn't hear this:
  252. 1:06 AM - fistacuff: ?
  253. 1:06 AM - Kala: [23:45] Kalamylee@kalamylee cammy's house phone would ring and perhaps her answering machine picks up. the other's would hear a message.
  254. [23:45] [Local] Kalamylee@kalamylee: Sarah Rubin's voice, "Happy Birthday bitch. See you next year."
  255. 1:07 AM - fistacuff: Ah, what'd you generally think of sam's detective skills and mine?
  256. 1:07 AM - Kala: you know I like your detective skills
  257. 1:08 AM - Kala: you're the reason I come up with complicated plots
  258. 1:08 AM - Kala: or at least, what I call complicated plots.
  259. 1:08 AM - fistacuff: I never figure them out, though
  260. 1:09 AM - Kala: yeah, that's my fault
  261. 1:09 AM - Kala: I need to make them less obtuse
  262. 1:09 AM - Kala: Even Daraxe tells me that.
  263. 1:10 AM - fistacuff: What'd you mean obtuse?
  264. 1:11 AM - Kala: I've been told my plots are as easy to solve with the clues I leave.
  265. 1:11 AM - Kala: aren't*
  266. 1:12 AM - fistacuff: They arent, because the clues are just general information that can relate back to ANYTHING
  267. 1:12 AM - fistacuff: Its not really a clue
  268. 1:14 AM - fistacuff: The information makes sense when you bring about the big picture
  269. 1:14 AM - fistacuff: but
  270. 1:14 AM - fistacuff: you dont leave enough for someone to get to the big picture
  271. 1:15 AM - Kala: Granted.
  272. 1:15 AM - Kala: I wait for questions to be asked that lead to answers which should lead to more questions.
  273. 1:15 AM - Kala: I follow a structure I learned in college.
  274. 1:17 AM - fistacuff: You do, but still even those clues arent always relevant
  275. 1:17 AM - fistacuff: you have to consider that to tell a story, you should give a few throw offs, but give some possible good answers too
  276. 1:18 AM - fistacuff: YOU
  277. 1:18 AM - fistacuff: what you'll do is give a dozen upon dozens of throw offs, and let people waste time with those instead of just saying its fruitless
  278. 1:18 AM - Kala: Hmm idk, I'm pretty sure I've told you when something was fruitless or not.
  279. 1:18 AM - fistacuff: But with the clues you give, and the little information, ANYTHING is just as viable as any other option
  280. 1:18 AM - fistacuff: You do that too
  281. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: You make almost ever yoption viable and theres a lot of options
  282. 1:19 AM - Kala: There was thing I was afraid you were going to do that would have totally spoiled my plot.
  283. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: Like this for example
  284. 1:19 AM - Kala: Do you want to know what it was?
  285. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: What?
  286. 1:19 AM - Kala: Go to St. Louis and try and talk to the active Saint and their mentior.
  287. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: I DID
  288. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: YOU FUCKING DINK LOL
  289. 1:19 AM - fistacuff: I asked you and you said, verbedum
  290. 1:19 AM - Kala: verbatim*
  291. 1:20 AM - fistacuff: "It wouldnt of mattered they arent important to the plot"
  292. 1:20 AM - fistacuff: I did, i said sam would probably go do that, and you said it was pointless lol
  293. 1:20 AM - Kala: lol did I say that?
  294. 1:20 AM - fistacuff: YES
  295. 1:20 AM - fistacuff: YOU DID
  296. 1:20 AM - Kala: hmm..
  297. 1:20 AM - Kala: OH RIght.
  298. 1:20 AM - fistacuff: Like, thats why i never mentioned it to ya
  299. 1:20 AM - Kala: Well, sorry about that. At the time you asked that it was 100% true.
  300. 1:20 AM - Kala: But, things got changed for Cammy's sake.
  301. 1:20 AM - Kala: See, you did what you could!
  302. 1:21 AM - fistacuff: Ah, so, i probably would of figured it out then lol what would the former sapphire and that of told him?
  303. 1:21 AM - Kala: Well at the time you asked, nothing helpful.
  304. 1:21 AM - Kala: If it had been after the change, theeeeey would have said that the Saint was ded ded ded. The new saint is the only Saint.
  305. 1:22 AM - Kala: So, not your fault.
  306. 1:23 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, i guess not, that would of been key in the plot to know lol
  307. 1:24 AM - fistacuff: The impression i got from that, and the way you reacted oocly to sapphire being treated as a sorta criminal when sam assumed she had to do with the first helicopters
  308. 1:24 AM - fistacuff: was that it was apart of something else and she wasnt involved at all
  309. 1:24 AM - fistacuff: so
  310. 1:24 AM - Kala: well, I don't think Sam would have had time to talk to them anyway. Reaching them by phone would have been impossible. He'd have had to find the Saint in the streets, convince her to talk to her, convince her to let Sam speak to her mentor and etc. and he was too busy with Plucky to do that and out of commision with injuries afterwards.
  311. 1:24 AM - fistacuff: i stopped looking into her lol
  312. 1:25 AM - fistacuff: Thats why i stopped looking at sapphire as the cause, really, you threw me a lot of signs icly and oocly to basically say she wasnt behind it lol
  313. 1:25 AM - Kala: Yeah, I did that.
  314. 1:25 AM - fistacuff: its why i assumed it was some technopath or gang stealing the cars
  315. 1:25 AM - Kala: Well, you're not half wrong there either.
  316. 1:25 AM - Kala: There's a lot of unanswered questions still.
  317. 1:26 AM - Kala: But, hey why don't you say you took a trip to Missouri and spoke with the current Saint (with much difficulty) and found out that Saint you guys had was an imposter.
  318. 1:26 AM - Kala: So that's something else Sam uncovered.
  319. 1:26 AM - fistacuff: Well whats it matter now? lol obviously its an imposter
  320. 1:27 AM - fistacuff: But when did you change sapphire into being a criminal? Because i dont think it was meant from the start to be one
  321. 1:30 AM - fistacuff: Like was she ACTUALLY meant to be a hero in the team in the beginning?
  322. 1:33 AM - Kala: Yes, but what was going to happen was Sarah was going to murder her, and take her place towards the last few days or maybe even the last week. But all along it would have been the genuine article.
  323. 1:33 AM - Kala: Thus, the mask being the real Saint's undoing.
  324. 1:34 AM - Kala: Had she been trusting and revealed her face earlier, she wouldn't have been murdered and her place taken.
  325. 1:34 AM - Kala: Or at the very least, Sarah would have been discovered because she wouldn
  326. 1:34 AM - Kala: casually unmask with evryone else
  327. 1:34 AM - fistacuff: Why did ovact want you to shoot carmen, exactly?
  328. 1:35 AM - Kala: Ovact has a very interesting and deep story arc. She wanted a specific injury to occur in order to forward her arc. She allowed me to have the honor in being the catalyst.
  329. 1:36 AM - fistacuff: Whats the arc?
  330. 1:36 AM - Kala: I don't know if I should tell you. That's Ovact's thing. I am pretty sure she hasn't told me all of it anyway.
  331. 1:36 AM - fistacuff: im curious is all lol
  332. 1:37 AM - Kala: I am too.l
  333. 1:38 AM - fistacuff: Is hunter going to be crippled now?
  334. 1:39 AM - Kala: That's up to Ovact, but I assume she's going to have an injury. I don't know how bad or for how long.
  335. 1:39 AM - Kala: Whatever it is, isn't something Kala can fix.
  336. 1:39 AM - fistacuff: I didnt understand it, thats why this doesnt make sense to me
  337. 1:39 AM - fistacuff: you changed everything up for ovact last minute almost and it threw me off lol
  338. 1:40 AM - Kala: not last minute
  339. 1:40 AM - Kala: the decision for Saint to be Sarah instead of the geunine article was discussed and determined uh.. a month ago? Maybe? idk.
  340. 1:40 AM - Kala: Was a while ago, but after Sam asked about the St. Louis counterparts.
  341. 1:44 AM - fistacuff: Ah, if he wasnt crippled im sure he'd of found the cars
  342. 1:44 AM - Kala: maybe
  343. 1:44 AM - Kala: I mean, I had to hide them somewhere, right?
  344. 1:45 AM - fistacuff: Yeah, and honestly? I didnt assume they were on a public lot because, again, sam was trusting sapphire at the time lol
  345. 1:45 AM - fistacuff: I figured she'd even be able to figure that one out
  346. 1:45 AM - fistacuff: So, of course with her being hte proxy they were never going to get found unless someone physically went out and looked
  347. 1:46 AM - Kala: yep
  348. 1:47 AM - Kala: Well Sapph wasn't going to be able to solve that crime regardless of whether she was Sapph or Sarah.
  349. 1:49 AM - fistacuff: True lol but i would of hopped sam could solve it if he was physically able to investigate
  350. 1:49 AM - Kala: sure
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