[GM] AlfhildToday at 20:41
Okay, so I'm assuming we're good to go here regarding the talk about the pets.
So, Nic. Do you want to start off with your reasoning as to why you like to have the amount of pets you have?
Rai Jhargo (Nic)Today at 20:48
Well first because I don't see why I should only be allowed 2 because others have abused the rule
I already had my 5 animals (who were caged in so they couldn't attack anyone just like my thralls) before the rules was made
And also taking care of ones animals is one of the only things to do when there's no RPing going on, especially when the rates are as easy as they are
[GM] AlfhildToday at 20:59
Okay so, Birk is currently chowing down. So I'll answer some stuff here.

Firstly in regards to this:
I don't see why I should only be allowed 2 because others have abused the rule

While this is unfair, I do whole-heartedly agree, it is also something we have to do as damage control. Others abuse this, despite them being given our faith that they will follow and it does incredibly suck that players who follow the rules are forced to be pulled into this generalised rule also. But as it stands with damage control, it is something we have to encompass all players with. This is so we avoid coming across as showing favouritism to members, which can in turn upset the rest of the community.

I already had my 5 animals (who were caged in so they couldn't attack anyone just like my thralls) before the rules was made

Again, we understand that players were following these rules before they were made, and I know it took them all a long time to grow the pets,  especially when it comes to Great Pets. However, there is also the concern for lag. Each pet has a script, which is something that is constantly ran, so we want to avoid causing too much of it, especially with players building settlements and their own shrines (which they can, providing no one else has built the shrine and it needs to be public for all players to access as a means of interaction).

And also taking care of ones animals is one of the only things to do when there's no RPing going on, especially when the rates are as easy as they are

I get this, I really do. More often than not, I log on with nothing to do, and some people aren't all too interested in running the dungeons at all. So this is a problem we need to tackle to ensure people are able to get RP or have something they do enjoy while there isn't any RP available.
So, what I propose is this:
The rule of 2 pets per person is pushed onto those who clearly lack the ability to follow rules, have over 5 pets and lack the ability to cage them. This way it's a productive turn to encourage them to listen so that they may once again grow their pets to 5 and actively start listening.
But, naturally, I also need Birk's input on this.
Rai Jhargo (Nic)Today at 21:02
Also a punishment for people who clearly don't take others in consideration should be punished harsher
Especially whenever the update comes with the passive pets
[GM] Birk GrimvaultToday at 21:30
Hey there Nic o/
We have been going over the numbers and have come to the conclusion of making a 'trial' rule setting regarding the pet limits.
The trial rule will be as follows:
Single player - 5 pets.
Clan of  2- 5 pets  - 6 pets.
Clan of 6-10 = 7 pets.
Hows your feelings with this rule?
Rai Jhargo (Nic)Today at 21:34
They seem fine
[GM] Birk GrimvaultToday at 21:36
Good, we will implement the trial rule and announce it then.
Regarding to your punishment comment, can you go in a little more detail about what you had in mind?
Rai Jhargo (Nic)Today at 21:56
Like lets say someone has already gotten one strike and then does the same thing again, don't just give them another strike, they clearly don't respect you and don't care about anybody but themselves
[GM] AlfhildToday at 22:09
While that is true, we do have to enforce the three strikes so that it is fair.
[GM] Birk GrimvaultToday at 22:10
We have to keep the rules or else this can quickly be viewed as a not fair server, with admins abusing their powers over players.
[GM] AlfhildToday at 22:39
Would you say this discussion is finished and resolved?
Rai Jhargo (Nic)Today at 22:39
Yes
[GM] AlfhildToday at 22:39
Perfect.