Chat with MGGAR Owner

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25 January 2015
09:26 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I see
13:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Also one more thing
13:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Why did you take down DC?
13:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Not worth the time?
13:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I believe you deleted it
13:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Cuz I kinda cant find it
13:39 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: No, Because cobra was going to use me owning it agaist me.
13:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: and i did delete it.
13:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Owner made a new group anyway
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: How would Cobra use it against you?
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Oh shit
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Link me
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: NOW
13:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: No, i'm out of this.
13:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I'm in a bind.
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Mind explaining?
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I put you in this after all
13:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You and Cobra did.
13:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: That too was me
13:41 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Cobra was put in this by me
13:41 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: No, both of you did.
13:41 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Acually.
13:41 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Only Cobra pulled me in, you had no intentions of bringing me in this, because you didn't know me.
13:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Well, I tasked Cobra with this, and he brought you in.
13:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Anyway he said that MGGAR is a group of people who scam people.
13:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: So you didn't bring me in.
13:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So yeah, I AM involved
13:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Cobra did.
13:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Anway, why would he say you guys are scammers?
13:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats bizarre
13:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Because i took that blackbox from the old owner.
13:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I am aware fo that
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You took it for returning to Koisuki
13:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Do you know why i took it tho?
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yes
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I know who he got it from too
13:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Alright.
13:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Then you know that i haven't done anything other than scam a scammer.
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yes
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Didnt you see my comment?
13:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its on the SR thread
13:44 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Yes i saw it, thank you.
13:44 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I asked cobra to back me up wanna know his excuse?
13:44 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: "i don't use steam rep"
13:45 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Well its kinda a good one. After all, SR is utterly useless. But he should have backed you nonetheless
13:45 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: It's not the fact of him not using it.
13:45 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: It's the fact he didn't even try to make an effort to back up a friend.
13:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I did trust him.
13:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I don't now, but i did.
13:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Technically, he really doesnt need to back you up
13:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Yes i know.
13:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So him being there wont really change much
13:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: But that's not the point!
13:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yeah true
13:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its kinda a dick move from his part
13:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Then he tried to blame it all on me and kemal
13:47 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: i talked to kemal and he said he was on my side.
13:48 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The thread would say the same too
13:49 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: But then he talked bad about my group over my actions.
13:50 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: That is just idiotic and immature.
13:50 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: That's like saying "One Russian killed an innocent person, so all Russians are bad people"
13:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Where did he say your group is bad?
13:51 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: He made an announcement about it.
13:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Also I wouldnt go into the morality of scamming the scammer, but it might be why he is pissed off about it
13:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Also did you return the Black Box?
13:51 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: HOLD ON NOW
13:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I think why is pissed is because i'm not giving him any money.
13:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: What the hell?
13:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Kemal wanted to split the money three ways.
13:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: They wanted to sell the black box and take the money for ourselves.
13:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats stupid
13:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Just return it to the original owner
13:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Koisuki
13:53 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: When i told cobra that i wanted to sell it and pay back the victims he just got really sp00ky.
13:53 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Can you give me Koisuki's profle?
13:53 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Did you screenshot the same?
13:53 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The whole conversation?
13:53 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: No i didn't because i didn't expect it to go this way.
13:53 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: MGGAR - a group who were once a previous member of the council, never really accepted as they were not a raffle group and aimed to scam, scammers. Not really the best approach to a scammer at all.
13:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/chambersoftrading#announcements/detail/135440633472508822
13:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Also where is the Black Box
13:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: The Market.
13:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Why
13:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Remove it
13:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I'm going to sell it.
13:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I wanted to check its history
13:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Dont do that. It belongs to someone else after all.
13:55 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: If they wanted it they would have contacted me about it, don't you think so?
13:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I want to notify the owner about it
13:55 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: They even said on the thread that it was a gift.
13:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And for that I would need to know who it is
13:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The REAL owner
13:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I know Koisuki gave the keys for him to buy it
13:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So I wanna know the whole transaction
13:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So just remove it from Market for now
13:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Shouldnt take long
14:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Oh lol
14:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Just read your chat with Cobra
14:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It really sounds like he is joking
14:00 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: He's not.
14:01 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: He kicked me out of the council.
14:02 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: http://i.imgur.com/IiPNcul.png
14:03 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: http://backpack.tf/item/2259941805
14:09 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy is now Away.
14:16 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Jesus christ.
14:17 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Why the hell did this all have to happen?
14:17 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ill sort this out.
14:19 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: This is utterly stupid.
14:19 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Like seriously.
14:20 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It just turned into a "who has more members" argument
14:25 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Not really, he's just a bit salty that im  not giving him money.
14:25 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: He thinks he can use raffle house against me.
14:26 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: because he keeps saying "25k V 5k"
14:28 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I read the screenshots
14:28 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I know
14:28 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: wait, nevermind
14:28 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: he's going to use a raffle group
14:28 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: against a militaristic, battle hardend group.
14:28 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/TF2IRG topkek
14:29 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Seriously, that would be like suicide, attacking with a raffle group.
14:29 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: He already has done the needful
14:29 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You realise that right?
14:32 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Which is?
14:32 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Kicking you out of a Council which has been publicly advertised by you yourself, and so many others, as the goto place for trustable groups
14:33 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats gonna hurt your rep, however unfair it sounds
14:33 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And as for this whole deal
14:33 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I think I know what I should be doing when he gets back online
14:34 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Didnt realise that a scammer could destroy the Council without even trying
14:34 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ever thought of that?
14:34 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I did actually.
14:34 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: He is our enemy, and is making us turn on each other
14:35 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Quite simple.
14:35 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And as for Cobra, he is not happy about just one thing
14:35 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You being in charge of DC
14:35 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: When we took it down, you didnt have any claim on it as we did the work.
14:35 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And like it or not, Cobra really had nothing to do with the whole thing.
14:36 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: He did NOTHING. Kemal and I did it.
14:36 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I did nothing either, other than gain power.
14:36 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Oh and Cobra is the enemy, not Caroline.
14:38 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Cobra told me he was going to remove kemal from power and gain control of Raffle House.
14:37 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I read that
14:38 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: That's about all there is to it.
14:38 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And I sincerly feel it was a joke
14:38 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I have a knack at reading patterns
14:38 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And I know a troll when I see it
14:38 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I think he made it look like a joke while it was true.
14:38 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I know a troll when i see it to, that's why i'm only 75% sure.
14:38 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Mhm
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Look
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I had warned everyone a huge number of times
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: If we do take down DC
14:39 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: To be honest if Cobra was to delete his announcements and apologize, i would delete mine and go on with my day.
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: DO NOT TAKE CONTROL OF IT
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The head admin Vindic wanted to
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And I told him not to
14:39 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Simply cuz this group is tainted and should be buried to the dust
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And when I came to know that you got the gruop
14:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: that's why i deleted it, if i kept it, a war would have broke out with each other.
14:40 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Once i saw Cobra go against me i burned it.
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I didnt know what to say
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yeah
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: That aws the call you should have taken AGES ago
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: There was no need to acquire it
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Or scam the owner
14:40 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: No need at all
14:41 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Ages? i only had the group for 2 days.
14:41 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I meant. Dont even take control of it
14:41 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Just let it go. Thats what I meant.
14:41 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ill be honest
14:41 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I once thought I would eventually take it and rebuild it, when I started
14:41 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I took control to destroy it.
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: If you wanted to destroy it, you shouldnt have taken it
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Just deleted it.
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You should have made Mofo do it for you
14:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Why would i try for a group like that and rebuild a bastard spawn.
14:42 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Mofo didn't want to.
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: If that was the case, then you should have let it be
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You shouldnt have done anything
14:42 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: After what had happened, no one would have gone back anyway
14:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And I could have convinced Mofo
14:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Actually.
14:43 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: My point is
14:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: People wanted to go back.
14:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: So you're wrong there.
14:43 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: People added me wanting invites back to the group.
14:44 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats why it shouldnt even be continued.
14:44 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: So that's why i tried to destroy it before it got to big.
14:44 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: So you wanted it to keep going?
14:44 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: No
14:44 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It would have died down soon enough
14:45 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: My point is
14:45 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You wanted the group to be rebuilt and then it given back to Caroline?
Because that's what Mofo was going to do.
14:45 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You're point is invalid.
14:45 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yeah he is a kid, and kids get influenced
14:45 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: The group is destoryed and that's that.
14:45 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Whether by Caroline, or by us
14:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: The only thing is that Cobra needs to grow up and stop acting like a 5 year old.
14:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And you dont get it. The point was not about whether Center existed or not
14:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Plain and Simple.
14:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The point is that YOU shouldnt have done it
14:46 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Anyone else would have done the trick
14:46 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You are saying that anyone else but me could have control?
14:47 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: That's exactly what you just said.
14:47 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: There is no control. its just that you werent involved.
14:47 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You should never have been involved further than what we did
14:47 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: If i wasn't involved then why bring me in this?
14:47 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: That's like buying stuff you are never going to need.
14:48 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I've done fine in the past three days, and it's just Cobra who is salty.
14:48 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ok
14:48 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Wait
14:48 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Done and Done.
14:48 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ill talk now.
14:48 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: 1. You werent involved. Cobra asked for an opinion.
14:49 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Wrong, he wanted my help.
14:49 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: 2. Cobra might be salty yes, so we'll get that sorted out
14:49 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Right, and i hope it does get sorted.
14:49 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: 3. Whether you like it or not, you didnt do anything for the plan to work.
14:49 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: We did it between ourselves
14:50 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: 3. I know, but it was my idea to kick people.
14:50 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: And that's the only reason Caroline left.
14:50 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You yourself didn't want to kick people.
14:51 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You said it wouldn't work.
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yes. And I know its still something I wouldnt have done.
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: But its like saying Diplomacy wont work against attacks
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So I stood down
14:51 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Wait a second.
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Besides, Cobra wasnt gonna kick people, but Kemal suggested it again
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So we went with it
14:51 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You just told me you took part in this, but now you are saying you stood down?
14:51 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I stood down from my argument
14:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: As in, I let it happen
14:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Ok.
14:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: it was my idea and kemal reinforced it.
14:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Call it that way
14:52 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: But it can also be interpreted as Kemal's idea alone
14:52 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I'm not trying to take credit or say it was all because of me, but i did suggest kicking people first.
14:53 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Well, we didnt really go with it tho. But I told Kemal and Cobra, if this is what you BOTH want, then go for it.
14:53 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So it may have been a coincidence, but still didnt have anything to do with you
14:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And when you suggested it, Cobra was against it too, for some reason.
14:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Dunno why.
14:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Also Baconz wasnt even involved btw
14:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Ok so i don't know why you keep telling me i didn't have anything to do with this.
14:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Because one.
14:54 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I was asleep when it happened.
14:54 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So was I
14:55 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: How can i sleep and do an operation at the same time?
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: My contribution was a lot different tho
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Anyway go on
14:55 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Ok that's bullshit, how do you kick people and sleep at the same time?
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I didnt kick. Thats the point
14:55 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: you said you and kemal did :I
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I didnt
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Kemal did
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I provided the info
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Remember?
14:55 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You cant kick people if you arent admin
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Or mod
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The plan was this
14:56 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You told me earlier that you did tho.
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: No I didnt
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I said, I was part of the plan
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I never kicked anyone
14:56 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Meh, ok whatever go on
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: THe plan was
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Cobra and Kemal approach caroline
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And partner with him
14:56 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And hence become admins
14:57 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Then people get kicked, and the announcements are posted
14:57 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And thats that
14:57 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: To date, Cobra is still friends with Caroline
14:57 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: He doesnt even know he was part of it
14:58 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Anyway, this is gonna be a bit hard for the two of you to get.
14:58 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: But you BOTH acted out of the line.
14:58 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And mucked up something so silly into a shitstorm.
14:58 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I mean, it was just a comment on an SR thread
14:59 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And it spiralled into the destruction of a council
14:59 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Are you high?
14:59 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Seriously.
14:59 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: How so?
14:59 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its what is the truth.
14:59 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: The council isn't destroyed.
14:59 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Now that you are gone from the Council, who else is left?
14:59 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: It wasn't over the SR thread.
15:00 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: There are like 10 other groups :I
15:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And none of them have any clout.
15:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: First TFTRG left
15:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Then you guys got kicked.
15:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The Council is falling apart.
15:00 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats what I mean.
15:01 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And yes, it was over Cobra not supporting your stand on the SR thread.
15:01 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats what started the argument in the first place.
15:01 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So yeah, since I got the both of you in this mess, Ill clear it up myself too
15:01 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: No it wasn't.
15:01 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Seeya in a few hours.
15:02 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: And how is the council falling apart, ONLY one group got kicked.
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ok. Tell me this.
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Out of all raffling groups, present
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: There are only a FEW who are famous
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: TFTRG is one
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Then comes RH, TF2IRG, MGGAR, and TURG
15:02 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And thats it.
15:03 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: You realize.
15:03 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: TF2IRG is owned by Cobra.
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I know
15:03 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: And MGGAR is NOT a raffle group.
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: My bad.
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Trading groups
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Not raffling groups
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I keep defaulting to raffles
15:03 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: It's Not even a trading group.
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The Council is for Trading Groups.
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: TCORTG
15:03 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats what it says
15:04 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And I know what your group is for
15:04 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I know, but my group offers protection and news from phishers.
15:04 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its for rooting out scammers and scams
15:04 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Now if Cobra was smart......... He would have read about that.
15:04 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: And if he wanted only trading groups.... i wouldn't be accepted into the council.
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The name is a mistake
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It shouldnt be TCORTG
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It should be TCORG
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats what it should be
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Anyway
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: It was founded by TF2IRG and TFTRG and RH
15:05 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: With the premise of making a place to document good groups and bad ones
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Kinda in your alley
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: When TFTRG, its major backer, left, it still stood
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: But you guys leaving too?
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats a different story
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Adn the irony is, this happened on the wake of destroying a scammer group.
15:06 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I wasn't leaving i was forced out.
15:06 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Something the group is built against
15:07 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Two different things.
15:07 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Yes I know
15:07 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: To the eyes of the public its the same tho
15:07 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: To be honest, i don't care if i got kicked out of the council if the owner is labeling groups wrongly.
15:08 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Being apart of something like that when it is false makes the groups that have been claimed to be good makes them look bad.
15:08 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Let me ask you a question, Do you think my group is bad?
15:09 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: No
15:09 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: The group isnt bad.
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: What Cobra said is entirely in his rage
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: So I wont take that at face value anyway
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: In case you didnt know
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Ive been in this situation before
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/koalasraffles#announcements/detail/132057768681723907
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Check it.
15:10 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I can tell.
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its even worse
15:10 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Do you know what I did?
15:11 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I saved the partnership
15:11 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: At the cost of not having a server
15:11 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You two should do the same. And I will make sure you do.
15:11 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: So you think we should be Partners again?
15:12 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Not quite sure, but you should be clearing the air.
15:12 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Im not partners with Kemal
15:12 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: I declined his request for one
15:12 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: but we are still friends arent we?
15:12 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: Well, i don't have anything against Cobra, he has something against me.
15:13 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: I didn't want to get kicked out.
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: His reason to hate you has been removed.
15:13 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: When i kicked him out of the DC he kicked me out of the Council.
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You shouldnt have
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Thats something I will cover later
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: For now Ill go have lunch
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Then I will see you in a few hours
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: And will make it right.
15:13 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: It's 4:43 here.
15:13 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: AM.
15:13 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: lel
15:13 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Its 3 PM here
15:14 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: You need to be here in like 6-7 hours
15:14 - GR [#ℝ4ℕ] [⇄]: Doable right?
15:14 - MGGAR | [GR2R] General Giggy: if i go to sleep now.... yea