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  7. Channel ID: -81482935
  8. Channel Name: Private Chat (Karin Yang)
  9. Listener: Admiral Goberius
  10. Session started: 2017.01.01 00:24:12
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  13. [ 2017.01.01 00:24:15 ] Admiral Goberius > hi
  14. [ 2017.01.01 00:24:21 ] Karin Yang > Hi
  15. [ 2017.01.01 00:24:42 ] Karin Yang > My corp is recently declared war by your alliance, can I know why?
  16. [ 2017.01.01 00:25:12 ] Karin Yang > Is there a way to solve it peacefully?
  17. [ 2017.01.01 00:25:42 ] Admiral Goberius > there's nothing personal involved
  18. [ 2017.01.01 00:25:51 ] Admiral Goberius > it seems you folks setup a nice business though
  19. [ 2017.01.01 00:26:12 ] Karin Yang > yes, just started making some money
  20. [ 2017.01.01 00:26:36 ] Karin Yang > we were still undercutted by 0% 2 weeks ago
  21. [ 2017.01.01 00:26:53 ] Karin Yang > Is it a contract? or just want some content?
  22. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:07 ] Admiral Goberius > it is neither
  23. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:14 ] Admiral Goberius > how did the undercut happen
  24. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:23 ] Admiral Goberius > it seemed the plexes were all still being sold in P V hub
  25. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:26 ] Admiral Goberius > steadily
  26. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:42 ] Karin Yang > there're 7 or 8 citadels
  27. [ 2017.01.01 00:27:44 ] Admiral Goberius > I never observed any shift to another fortizar
  28. [ 2017.01.01 00:28:01 ] Admiral Goberius > yeah but did people actually switch to a different hub
  29. [ 2017.01.01 00:28:17 ] Karin Yang > if someone set its rate to 0%, and I don't follow, people switched quickly
  30. [ 2017.01.01 00:28:49 ] Karin Yang > so all citadel owner has to set theirs to 0% too
  31. [ 2017.01.01 00:29:05 ] Admiral Goberius > why would someone do that, just to fuck with you?
  32. [ 2017.01.01 00:29:06 ] Karin Yang > there were 4~5 0% citadels at that time
  33. [ 2017.01.01 00:29:29 ] Karin Yang > no, there're always new comers, every week
  34. [ 2017.01.01 00:29:39 ] Admiral Goberius > I see, how did you stop them^
  35. [ 2017.01.01 00:29:41 ] Karin Yang > they want to lure customers
  36. [ 2017.01.01 00:30:33 ] Karin Yang > It's really hard to persuade them, I will tell them it's meaningless, because I will do the same to match theirs. But still not effectively
  37. [ 2017.01.01 00:30:40 ] Karin Yang > 80% of my time is at 0%
  38. [ 2017.01.01 00:30:55 ] Admiral Goberius > do you hire mercs to kill their shit?
  39. [ 2017.01.01 00:31:30 ] Karin Yang > they're also hiring protecte mercs, need to pay way more to do that
  40. [ 2017.01.01 00:32:12 ] Karin Yang > not enough to be covered by profit from citadel
  41. [ 2017.01.01 00:32:32 ] Admiral Goberius > how so? according to trade volume of plexes and injectors alone in perimeter,
  42. [ 2017.01.01 00:32:44 ] Admiral Goberius > at 0.1% tax you should be making 160 bil+ per month
  43. [ 2017.01.01 00:32:54 ] Karin Yang > lol, impossible
  44. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:07 ] Admiral Goberius > its pure math, the volume is public
  45. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:15 ] Karin Yang > volume?
  46. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:20 ] Admiral Goberius > on top of that, all the buy orders with 1 range also pay tax to you right?
  47. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:30 ] Admiral Goberius > theres a tax paid to you by buy orders right?
  48. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:46 ] Karin Yang > it's not volume, I assume you read that from the website?
  49. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:52 ] Admiral Goberius > when someone uses the 1 range to buy shit in jita while sitting in your citadel
  50. [ 2017.01.01 00:33:59 ] Admiral Goberius > answer my question please
  51. [ 2017.01.01 00:34:10 ] Admiral Goberius > I'll get to the volume in a sec
  52. [ 2017.01.01 00:34:13 ] Karin Yang > which one? you type too quickly
  53. [ 2017.01.01 00:34:22 ] Admiral Goberius > my bad
  54. [ 2017.01.01 00:34:38 ] Admiral Goberius > if someone wants to buy a raven in jita
  55. [ 2017.01.01 00:34:42 ] Admiral Goberius > but wants to save on tax
  56. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:12 ] Admiral Goberius > they can dock in your fortizar, buy remotely, and pay 0.1% to you instead of 2.5% to the NPCs
  57. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:15 ] Admiral Goberius > is that correct?
  58. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:32 ] Karin Yang > yes, range buy orders will pay me tax. if their rate is 0.1%.
  59. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:40 ] Admiral Goberius > ok
  60. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:40 ] Karin Yang > But most of them are paying 0%
  61. [ 2017.01.01 00:35:46 ] Admiral Goberius > why 0%?
  62. [ 2017.01.01 00:37:00 ] Karin Yang > Many people come to defended my citadel to keep it safe, so I reward them 0%. Many big customers can save fortizar fee from their saving, I have to give them 0% to, otherewise they will just anchor one for themselves every week
  63. [ 2017.01.01 00:37:26 ] Karin Yang > And I do a lot of trading from citadel, I can't charge myself too
  64. [ 2017.01.01 00:37:38 ] Karin Yang > I may trade 1Trillion per day
  65. [ 2017.01.01 00:38:39 ] Karin Yang > so I can save 30b by no need to pay others 0.1%
  66. [ 2017.01.01 00:39:04 ] Karin Yang > If this citadel is down, I will surely put up another for my own good
  67. [ 2017.01.01 00:41:31 ] Admiral Goberius > brb 5 mins
  68. [ 2017.01.01 00:41:37 ] Karin Yang > k
  69. [ 2017.01.01 00:54:30 ] Karin Yang > If you are familiar with structure vulnerable window, you know that it's quite time-consuming to destroy a citadel, that's the reason Lenny failed to monopolize this market
  70. [ 2017.01.01 00:54:54 ] Admiral Goberius > sorry I am back
  71. [ 2017.01.01 00:54:57 ] Karin Yang > Because anyone can setup one citadel, and make it invulnerable for two weeks.
  72. [ 2017.01.01 00:55:13 ] Karin Yang > np
  73. [ 2017.01.01 00:55:36 ] Admiral Goberius > yes at the tune of 15 bil a pop
  74. [ 2017.01.01 00:55:56 ] Karin Yang > yes, 15bil isn't much for a jita businessman
  75. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:09 ] Karin Yang > I can make 300bil per month from trading alone
  76. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:15 ] Karin Yang > many people can do it
  77. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:20 ] Admiral Goberius > there you go
  78. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:41 ] Admiral Goberius > like I said, theres a lot of profit to be made from these taxes
  79. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:43 ] Karin Yang > I mean from my trading, not tax
  80. [ 2017.01.01 00:56:57 ] Karin Yang > buy low, sell high
  81. [ 2017.01.01 00:57:00 ] Admiral Goberius > tax is a fraction of what the traders make
  82. [ 2017.01.01 00:57:17 ] Admiral Goberius > I think there is a lot you can teach me
  83. [ 2017.01.01 00:57:27 ] Admiral Goberius > but killing citadels might not be one of them
  84. [ 2017.01.01 00:57:29 ] Karin Yang > yes, and many people can afford it to anchor a free one every two week
  85. [ 2017.01.01 00:57:55 ] Karin Yang > I am going to tell you what I am going to do,
  86. [ 2017.01.01 01:00:05 ] Karin Yang > when some large null sec force declare war to my corp, I will change timer so they can only destroy one citadel every two weeks, every two weeks I will anchor a new one and set its rate to 0%. So you need to call fleet 3 times every two weeks
  87. [ 2017.01.01 01:00:33 ] Karin Yang > during which you can't make any profit, and I can still save 30bil per month to support it forever
  88. [ 2017.01.01 01:00:54 ] Karin Yang > that's the reason why 80% of the time we only have 0%
  89. [ 2017.01.01 01:01:31 ] Karin Yang > And I can make it 100% of time
  90. [ 2017.01.01 01:02:04 ] Admiral Goberius > Theres a couple flaws with your plan
  91. [ 2017.01.01 01:02:20 ] Karin Yang > which, I can explain to you maybe
  92. [ 2017.01.01 01:02:58 ] Admiral Goberius > one is that any loophole in this game can be fixed by bringing enough attention to it - and we have a lot of voices
  93. [ 2017.01.01 01:03:19 ] Admiral Goberius > so bragging about playing with the week-end vuln swaps is not smart
  94. [ 2017.01.01 01:03:32 ] Admiral Goberius > second, I am not here to kill your profit, or the profit of traders
  95. [ 2017.01.01 01:03:41 ] Admiral Goberius > I am interested in the Plex and Injector market
  96. [ 2017.01.01 01:03:56 ] Admiral Goberius > I have observed that market for weeks and they all use your citadel
  97. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:05 ] Karin Yang > that's what I trade
  98. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:06 ] Admiral Goberius > nearly all the plexes and injectors
  99. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:12 ] Karin Yang > I will not use your citadels
  100. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:25 ] Admiral Goberius > is it just you selling every plex in the game?
  101. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:37 ] Admiral Goberius > surely those 4000 plexes traded per day are only in small part yours
  102. [ 2017.01.01 01:04:47 ] Karin Yang > no, I know people who trading atleast 50% of these goods
  103. [ 2017.01.01 01:05:12 ] Karin Yang > I have run this market for 6 months, surely I can
  104. [ 2017.01.01 01:05:25 ] Admiral Goberius > you can what
  105. [ 2017.01.01 01:05:54 ] Karin Yang > I can have connection to those people in the market, and ask them to not use your citadel
  106. [ 2017.01.01 01:06:26 ] Karin Yang > And they won't because I will give them 0%
  107. [ 2017.01.01 01:06:57 ] Admiral Goberius > they can already do that
  108. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:11 ] Admiral Goberius > they can use any of the available 0%s or put up their own, like you said
  109. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:20 ] Karin Yang > yes
  110. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:27 ] Karin Yang > so you won't get money from them
  111. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:29 ] Admiral Goberius > but clearly they dont
  112. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:36 ] Karin Yang > they are
  113. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:37 ] Admiral Goberius > they use yours and pay 0,1% tax
  114. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:50 ] Karin Yang > no, I have many small lists
  115. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:51 ] Admiral Goberius > the plexes are all in your citadel
  116. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:59 ] Karin Yang > 0.1% is only the public rate
  117. [ 2017.01.01 01:07:59 ] Admiral Goberius > what you mean
  118. [ 2017.01.01 01:08:14 ] Karin Yang > you can set separate rate for different people
  119. [ 2017.01.01 01:08:26 ] Karin Yang > these VIP ofc are having 0%
  120. [ 2017.01.01 01:08:37 ] Karin Yang > I need them for advertisements
  121. [ 2017.01.01 01:09:37 ] Admiral Goberius > I see, so you are not making any money basically
  122. [ 2017.01.01 01:09:45 ] Karin Yang > yes
  123. [ 2017.01.01 01:09:55 ] Karin Yang > I hope I can ,but competetion
  124. [ 2017.01.01 01:09:56 ] Admiral Goberius > you expect me to believe that?
  125. [ 2017.01.01 01:10:17 ] Admiral Goberius > that you arent profiting from holding the citadel with the whole volume of trades for plexes in the game
  126. [ 2017.01.01 01:10:32 ] Karin Yang > no matter you believe it or not, when my citadel is destroyed, I will make my public rate to 0% for sure
  127. [ 2017.01.01 01:10:56 ] Karin Yang > untill your guys get bored
  128. [ 2017.01.01 01:11:05 ] Karin Yang > maybe a year, maybe two
  129. [ 2017.01.01 01:11:19 ] Karin Yang > the point is, I don't any isk buy doing this
  130. [ 2017.01.01 01:11:26 ] Karin Yang > don't lose*
  131. [ 2017.01.01 01:11:42 ] Admiral Goberius > I think you are just getting defensive now
  132. [ 2017.01.01 01:12:01 ] Admiral Goberius > ofc you lose isk, every fortizar costs and we get to loot and salvage it
  133. [ 2017.01.01 01:12:24 ] Karin Yang > if I don't anchor one, I need to pay someone 0.1%
  134. [ 2017.01.01 01:12:39 ] Karin Yang > but if I anchor one, I save 1 billion from that per day
  135. [ 2017.01.01 01:12:52 ] Karin Yang > and you can only destroy one every two weeks
  136. [ 2017.01.01 01:12:58 ] Admiral Goberius > just use one of the other free ones
  137. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:03 ] Admiral Goberius > no need to anchor
  138. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:13 ] Karin Yang > if there is free ones :)
  139. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:18 ] Admiral Goberius > another thing I am interested in is the Engineering Complexes
  140. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:37 ] Karin Yang > 100m/day, that's what you want to know
  141. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:49 ] Karin Yang > from Engineering Complex
  142. [ 2017.01.01 01:13:51 ] Admiral Goberius > I see so another pro bono venture
  143. [ 2017.01.01 01:14:26 ] Admiral Goberius > so overall you are not making much from all this, it is mostly a service for the eve community?
  144. [ 2017.01.01 01:14:50 ] Karin Yang > maybe for prestige, idk
  145. [ 2017.01.01 01:14:56 ] Admiral Goberius > mmm I see
  146. [ 2017.01.01 01:15:09 ] Admiral Goberius > well maybe I was wrong wardecing you and thinking I would make money from this
  147. [ 2017.01.01 01:15:36 ] Karin Yang > are you still going to do this?
  148. [ 2017.01.01 01:15:47 ] Karin Yang > Lenny did this once
  149. [ 2017.01.01 01:15:52 ] Admiral Goberius > just to get my heart to rest, would you mind sharing your corp API (wallet only) so I can see or myself that the profits are that slim?
  150. [ 2017.01.01 01:17:04 ] Karin Yang > em, no, there're names there, my most valuable assets for the past half year
  151. [ 2017.01.01 01:17:15 ] Admiral Goberius > then
  152. [ 2017.01.01 01:17:51 ] Karin Yang > so I think you still want to do it, but what will you do with a 0% citadel?
  153. [ 2017.01.01 01:18:38 ] Admiral Goberius > I guess I just have to trust the fact you spent bilions setting up a public market and industry network just as a gift to the little guy
  154. [ 2017.01.01 01:19:30 ] Karin Yang > I am sure I will do it, even if not for public, but only to annoy people who attack me, I will do it
  155. [ 2017.01.01 01:19:45 ] Admiral Goberius > they all say that
  156. [ 2017.01.01 01:20:09 ] Admiral Goberius > goons said they'd forever war the north, then just fucked off
  157. [ 2017.01.01 01:20:29 ] Karin Yang > goons need to pay too much to do that
  158. [ 2017.01.01 01:20:30 ] Admiral Goberius > test co said they would never let a soul fly in tribute, they spend 2 weeks in npc stations then were gone
  159. [ 2017.01.01 01:21:19 ] Admiral Goberius > I dont mean it personally, just stating that everyone in this game likes to make these kind of "we're not done here yet!!!" threats
  160. [ 2017.01.01 01:21:36 ] Admiral Goberius > look the reason I took this convo
  161. [ 2017.01.01 01:21:46 ] Karin Yang > lol,yes, if they need to lose something
  162. [ 2017.01.01 01:21:55 ] Admiral Goberius > is I am interesed to see if there's a chance to work together
  163. [ 2017.01.01 01:22:06 ] Admiral Goberius > lets hypotethically say that there are profits to be made
  164. [ 2017.01.01 01:22:23 ] Admiral Goberius > I can kill citadels all year, that doesn't worry me
  165. [ 2017.01.01 01:22:38 ] Admiral Goberius > But I dont know if I can get Plex sellers to adopt a new fortizar as their base
  166. [ 2017.01.01 01:22:40 ] Karin Yang > it depends on how much effort you want to put into this
  167. [ 2017.01.01 01:23:05 ] Admiral Goberius > that is something you have achieved and that is a gamble as to whateher or not I can replicate it
  168. [ 2017.01.01 01:23:38 ] Admiral Goberius > Effort? I can kill all the other citadels
  169. [ 2017.01.01 01:23:41 ] Karin Yang > how much time you can put into the war, how much isk you expect
  170. [ 2017.01.01 01:24:04 ] Admiral Goberius > goons and test are busy south, thats about the only enemies who could stop us in empire
  171. [ 2017.01.01 01:24:18 ] Admiral Goberius > best way to split the isk would be a %
  172. [ 2017.01.01 01:24:40 ] Karin Yang > although I doubt that, but if you can kill all the others, and the new coming ones, we can do something
  173. [ 2017.01.01 01:24:58 ] Admiral Goberius > you said you are forced to keep 0% tax most of the time, we can make it so you can keep it higher and profit more
  174. [ 2017.01.01 01:25:22 ] Karin Yang > yes, that's the idea
  175. [ 2017.01.01 01:26:04 ] Admiral Goberius > I will need the wallet API to know what the citadel is earning tho. How do we solve that?
  176. [ 2017.01.01 01:27:12 ] Karin Yang > if the rate is actually that high, I don't doubt I can make 160b+,
  177. [ 2017.01.01 01:27:21 ] Karin Yang > we can discuss price based on rate
  178. [ 2017.01.01 01:27:26 ] Karin Yang > how much you can push
  179. [ 2017.01.01 01:27:49 ] Admiral Goberius > I like that
  180. [ 2017.01.01 01:28:10 ] Admiral Goberius > the API thing is a big issue to solve tho - this will not work unless I can see what the citadel is making
  181. [ 2017.01.01 01:28:22 ] Admiral Goberius > I am sure you understand
  182. [ 2017.01.01 01:29:23 ] Karin Yang > I won't give you my API untill you actually proved you can raise it, like 0.1%, maybe we can discuss from there
  183. [ 2017.01.01 01:29:47 ] Karin Yang > say, how much per 0.1%
  184. [ 2017.01.01 01:29:55 ] Admiral Goberius > what do you mean
  185. [ 2017.01.01 01:30:09 ] Admiral Goberius > I think the best way is to decide on a split and then just split the profit
  186. [ 2017.01.01 01:30:24 ] Admiral Goberius > rather than having a rate per 0.1%
  187. [ 2017.01.01 01:30:30 ] Karin Yang > I see
  188. [ 2017.01.01 01:30:37 ] Karin Yang > ok
  189. [ 2017.01.01 01:30:39 ] Admiral Goberius > I dont want you to pay me to raise your tax, I prefer a cut of the profit
  190. [ 2017.01.01 01:31:37 ] Karin Yang > but I don't pay anything when the public rate is 0.1%. I only cooperate with you when it's above 0.1%
  191. [ 2017.01.01 01:31:42 ] Admiral Goberius > to know the profit, I need the API - or a director char in the corp
  192. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:03 ] Admiral Goberius > no, the profit should always be shared
  193. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:14 ] Admiral Goberius > because without me, you spend a lot of time at 0% - your own words
  194. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:16 ] Karin Yang > I can give you API, after you proved you can
  195. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:43 ] Karin Yang > if you successfully raised it to 0.2%, I will provide you API
  196. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:57 ] Karin Yang > And share income with you
  197. [ 2017.01.01 01:32:58 ] Admiral Goberius > how do you even prove that
  198. [ 2017.01.01 01:33:16 ] Admiral Goberius > how about you share api and income if I kill the other fortizars in perimeter?
  199. [ 2017.01.01 01:33:27 ] Karin Yang > you have people, I am afraid of you, not the other way around
  200. [ 2017.01.01 01:33:43 ] Admiral Goberius > rrright so that's why I should be the one dictating the terms
  201. [ 2017.01.01 01:33:46 ] Admiral Goberius > thats how it usually works
  202. [ 2017.01.01 01:34:22 ] Karin Yang > in terms of cooperation, no
  203. [ 2017.01.01 01:34:31 ] Admiral Goberius > not to be rude but I just spend 3 weeks burning everyone's shit down, collect a ton of loot and go back to my old life
  204. [ 2017.01.01 01:34:38 ] Admiral Goberius > *I can just
  205. [ 2017.01.01 01:35:06 ] Karin Yang > I know, but I also know it's not so convineant to bring fleets to high sec to do tedius things
  206. [ 2017.01.01 01:35:06 ] Admiral Goberius > so I am offering to split profits, and in return I kill the rest of the fortizars
  207. [ 2017.01.01 01:35:37 ] Karin Yang > you don't know who you're facing, there're many people from PL, Goons
  208. [ 2017.01.01 01:35:53 ] Karin Yang > among these citadels owners, that's why I doubt you can do it
  209. [ 2017.01.01 01:36:05 ] Admiral Goberius > perimeter is only 1 jump bridge and 15 jumps from my home, and ofc the fleet would fly in ceptors and have ships seeded in perim
  210. [ 2017.01.01 01:36:26 ] Admiral Goberius > I dont need to call full ctas to kill these citadels, a lazy ping can get 60-80 guys easily in horde
  211. [ 2017.01.01 01:36:39 ] Karin Yang > You can, and those people will ask PL/Goons to defend
  212. [ 2017.01.01 01:36:49 ] Karin Yang > How do you deal with that?
  213. [ 2017.01.01 01:37:00 ] Admiral Goberius > I spoke to PL already
  214. [ 2017.01.01 01:37:16 ] Admiral Goberius > and goons are kinda busy atm if you didnt' notice :p
  215. [ 2017.01.01 01:37:27 ] Karin Yang > Do you know new Caldari sotiyo belongs to PL member
  216. [ 2017.01.01 01:37:53 ] Admiral Goberius > do you know when he tried to ask PL to defend it, PL leadership charged him for it?
  217. [ 2017.01.01 01:38:36 ] Karin Yang > he spend 100bil on that sotiyo, you think he will watch it die and do nothing
  218. [ 2017.01.01 01:39:02 ] Admiral Goberius > I dont care about new caldari atm, I start with perimeter
  219. [ 2017.01.01 01:39:19 ] Karin Yang > new caldari is 1-jump jita
  220. [ 2017.01.01 01:39:23 ] Karin Yang > it's the same
  221. [ 2017.01.01 01:39:30 ] Admiral Goberius > yeah I'll deal with that next
  222. [ 2017.01.01 01:39:42 ] Admiral Goberius > baby steps
  223. [ 2017.01.01 01:40:11 ] Admiral Goberius > anyways business talk
  224. [ 2017.01.01 01:40:24 ] Karin Yang > let's back to business
  225. [ 2017.01.01 01:40:27 ] Admiral Goberius > do you want to work together and if yes what are your terms?
  226. [ 2017.01.01 01:40:32 ] Admiral Goberius > if not, no hard feelings
  227. [ 2017.01.01 01:40:40 ] Karin Yang > how much share you want
  228. [ 2017.01.01 01:41:12 ] Karin Yang > I think it's all about price
  229. [ 2017.01.01 01:41:36 ] Admiral Goberius > my initial idea was 80% based on a 160 bil per month profit estimate - but we could start at a 50 : 50 to build trust
  230. [ 2017.01.01 01:41:38 ] Karin Yang > if we have agreements on price, anything isn't important
  231. [ 2017.01.01 01:42:07 ] Admiral Goberius > if 80% sounds insulting, consider I have to further split it among many people
  232. [ 2017.01.01 01:42:34 ] Karin Yang > you mean you will raise it in the future right?
  233. [ 2017.01.01 01:42:51 ] Admiral Goberius > yes, but we can decide that together
  234. [ 2017.01.01 01:44:58 ] Admiral Goberius > in return I would take care of killing other competing public citadels in perimeter while your task would be to run your citadels and collect profit
  235. [ 2017.01.01 01:44:59 ] Karin Yang > but I think it's not fair to give you 50% of current income, since you have do nothing. I think we should start from 0.2%, and you get 50% of increments
  236. [ 2017.01.01 01:45:13 ] Admiral Goberius > what do you mean do nothing
  237. [ 2017.01.01 01:45:33 ] Karin Yang > current rate is 1%, it's because of my effort
  238. [ 2017.01.01 01:45:33 ] Admiral Goberius > if I were doing nothjing we wouldnt be having this conversation
  239. [ 2017.01.01 01:45:38 ] Karin Yang > 0.1% *
  240. [ 2017.01.01 01:46:03 ] Karin Yang > but you didn't destroy any citadel
  241. [ 2017.01.01 01:46:08 ] Admiral Goberius > killing competing citadels and sparing yours is where my share comes from
  242. [ 2017.01.01 01:46:25 ] Admiral Goberius > right, so I am willing to delay the split until I killed them
  243. [ 2017.01.01 01:46:27 ] Karin Yang > yes, that's what I mean too
  244. [ 2017.01.01 01:46:47 ] Karin Yang > thanks for understanidng
  245. [ 2017.01.01 01:47:17 ] Karin Yang > the higher you can push, you more share you can get ofc
  246. [ 2017.01.01 01:48:05 ] Karin Yang > it would be in trillions if it's 1%
  247. [ 2017.01.01 01:48:19 ] Admiral Goberius > so which ones are the main competitors at the moment?
  248. [ 2017.01.01 01:48:39 ] Admiral Goberius > aye that's the goal, high tax = max profit
  249. [ 2017.01.01 01:49:16 ] Karin Yang > all those with 0.1% rate, I can't raise further because of them
  250. [ 2017.01.01 01:49:48 ] Admiral Goberius > could you get me a list?
  251. [ 2017.01.01 01:50:06 ] Karin Yang > I will sort it based on trading volume
  252. [ 2017.01.01 01:50:44 ] Karin Yang > I will send you a mail, too long for convo
  253. [ 2017.01.01 01:51:10 ] Admiral Goberius > excellent
  254. [ 2017.01.01 01:51:34 ] Admiral Goberius > by the way, just for your own safety, change the vuln like you would if we didnt have this conversation
  255. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:01 ] Karin Yang > I already did it
  256. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:17 ] Admiral Goberius > ok
  257. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:26 ] Admiral Goberius > I'm going after those AMEC guys this week
  258. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:30 ] Admiral Goberius > those are competitors right?
  259. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:36 ] Admiral Goberius > big fat sotio
  260. [ 2017.01.01 01:52:54 ] Karin Yang > yes, they're new, so not many customers atm
  261. [ 2017.01.01 01:53:09 ] Admiral Goberius > salvage alone from that sot is gonna be fat
  262. [ 2017.01.01 01:53:39 ] Karin Yang > yes, they drop industry materials
  263. [ 2017.01.01 01:53:49 ] Karin Yang > you may need several freighters
  264. [ 2017.01.01 01:54:56 ] Admiral Goberius > ahah aye
  265. [ 2017.01.01 01:55:02 ] Admiral Goberius > I hope for a nice pinatta
  266. [ 2017.01.01 01:55:16 ] Admiral Goberius > do you have some out of game contact like skype or discord?
  267. [ 2017.01.01 01:55:41 ] Karin Yang > no, eve mail not enough?
  268. [ 2017.01.01 01:55:59 ] Karin Yang > I check mails often
  269. [ 2017.01.01 01:56:54 ] Admiral Goberius > would you mind setting up a skype or discord for eve? its very convenient
  270. [ 2017.01.01 01:57:38 ] Karin Yang > I can have a discord, but I'm not a native english speaker, and my listening sucks
  271. [ 2017.01.01 01:58:54 ] Karin Yang > I think there're 7 now, double checking
  272. [ 2017.01.01 01:59:28 ] Admiral Goberius > just for typing
  273. [ 2017.01.01 01:59:48 ] Admiral Goberius > what timezone are you in?
  274. [ 2017.01.01 01:59:54 ] Karin Yang > US
  275. [ 2017.01.01 02:00:42 ] Admiral Goberius > ah but not english speaker?
  276. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:02 ] Karin Yang > correct
  277. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:05 ] Admiral Goberius > quick question
  278. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:10 ] Karin Yang > international student
  279. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:11 ] Admiral Goberius > brychtus industries fortizar
  280. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:23 ] Admiral Goberius > are they a competitor?
  281. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:29 ] Karin Yang > yes
  282. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:32 ] Karin Yang > any problem?
  283. [ 2017.01.01 02:01:34 ] Admiral Goberius > im checking one by one and wardecing
  284. [ 2017.01.01 02:02:21 ] Admiral Goberius > need to log in my alt then, convo Gobbins in a sec please
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