[GlobalRevolutionMedia] [occupycurveball] arrest of videographer on F28 at zuccotti. Fwd: Please do not hurt real occupiers...
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sonny b <sonnyb@riseup.net> 	Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM
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just fyi. i don't know what happened that day; esp, how many people
and cameras were around (more cameras,  safety in numbers).



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kevin Jones <ke...@brooklynproperties.com>
Date: Mar 7, 6:22 am
Subject: Please do not hurt real occupiers...
To: Occupy Curveball Public Group


On Saturday the 28th at a COOLS event two drummers were arrested while
playing drywall buckets quietly along with acoustic guitars to
accompany
yoga. I protested their arrest while videotaping the proceedings and
was
arrested for my efforts. There is continued harassment targeted to
make
Liberty Square an unwelcome place. I expect it will continue. Only
larger
numbers of occupiers there will raise awareness and possibly bring
about
some change.
That said - livestream efforts are appreciated - but the press only
likes
numbers.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Matthew Hopard
<matthew.hop...@gmail.com>wrote:









> This has been consistent at cools?
> On Mar 7, 2012 2:19 AM, "Recai Iskender" <traderrocky2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> All we need to do is support the real occupiers under siege. You will
>> know who is against them.
>> On Mar 7, 2012 2:16 AM, "Matthew Hopard" <matthew.hop...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:

>>> 1 through 5 are cool. How can you speculate undercovers though. They are
>>> trained to not be noticed. How can you expect that ratio either. There is a
>>> possibility that some of us just have trouble getting along. Understand I'm
>>> not discounting the potential for undercovers. At the same time, they have
>>> people watching the livestreams all day. After seeing the extents to which
>>> we fought at the start and at spokes councils would there really have been
>>> a need to waste manpower creating more arguments?
>>> On Mar 7, 2012 2:02 AM, "Recai Iskender" <traderrocky2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>> Who hurts the real occupiers?
>>>> Uniformed police was active yesterday in Zuccotti Park. You can watch
>>>> my livestream recordings to see what they did by just Googling ustream
>>>> recai iskender.
>>>> 1. They intimidated and removed the peaceful drums from the sidewalk.
>>>> 2. They arested and roughed one guy who was feeding the poor in the
>>>> same area.
>>>> 3. They.arrested one guy for telling the police that he.knows his civil
>>>> rights.
>>>> 4. They hassled and removed information stuff from Rich even though he
>>>> was in his usual assigned spot.
>>>> 5. They body slammed one woman by grabbing her around breast area while
>>>> she was peacefully asking a question about the arrests and then they
>>>> intimidated her and other people later.
>>>> This is done visible uniformed police before several streaming cameras.
>>>> But much worse than above was done by the undercover police in our
>>>> decision making general assembly, spokes council and working groups etc.
>>>> They have unlimited undercovers to outnumber the well-meaning occupy wall
>>>> street supporter in these bodies. As nobody is required to prove identity
>>>> and  background agents just walk in and outnumber the true supporters
>>>> easily and everytime. Undercovers made decisions from the beginning to
>>>> abonden the real occupiers who still occupy in the Zuccotti Park in a 24/5
>>>> shift. These true occupiers are abondened and left alone and defenseless in
>>>> there in front of the same uniformed police. They get harrassment and
>>>> intimidation on a daily basis. Police almost arrested me myself just
>>>> because I was alone livestreaming there. Undercovers argue that this is not
>>>> a handout charity, so if you are true occupier in the Zuccotti Park, you
>>>> must come with your own means. But yet so much money and other donations
>>>> given just for these true occupiers were misused in so many areas. They
>>>> took away all the resources and activities away from the Zuccotti Park just
>>>> to abandon the real occupiers and empty it as the symbol of the OWS. So
>>>> that general public finds an empty park feel that OWS is over or lost its
>>>> support from the 99%. If we didnot have this undercover operation we could
>>>> support hundreds of occupiers on a daily basisi even in the snowstorms.
>>>> This kind of organization would help us to have hundreds of bigger and
>>>> better OWS in the warm season to change the system for better. We must
>>>> prove that our.assembly is better than congress and we can change the 1%
>>>> system. In the congress we know who votes for what, but in our ows assembly
>>>> there is no such way of knowing this. So only way to overcome the
>>>> undercover infiltration is to put 100% support to the real occupiers in the
>>>> Zuccotti and support them with our all people and power.
>>>>  On Mar 6, 2012 5:37 PM, "Recai Iskender" <traderrocky2...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> Sure google
>>>>> Ustream recaiiskender
>>>>> Ustream recaiiskender2
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2012 2:23 PM, "sonny b" <son...@riseup.net> wrote:

>>>>>> Do you have the video of the police harassment archived somewhere we
>>>>>> can view?

>>>>>> On Mar 6, 12:01 pm, Recai Iskender <traderrocky2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Thanks a lot my friend
>>>>>> > On Mar 6, 2012 10:35 AM, "Chithra KarunaKaran" <

>>>>>> > karunakaran.chit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > > Wow that is grrrrr8, Recai.
>>>>>> > > Will catch up on your valuable effort.
>>>>>> > >  I'll FB your work.
>>>>>> > > Thx so much.
>>>>>> > > Chithra KarunaKaran

>>>>>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Lenore Blackforest <
>>>>>> > > lenore.blackfor...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> > >> Awesome, Rocky! I'll spread the word! Thank you so very much!
>>>>>> > >> Solidarity!
>>>>>> > >> -Lenore

>>>>>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Recai Iskender <
>>>>>> traderrocky2...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > >> > wrote:

>>>>>> > >>> Hi everyone, I do livestream everyday in the Zuccotti Park for
>>>>>> 3 months
>>>>>> > >>> and 6 days.
>>>>>> > >>> Last evening police harrassed me for livestreaming in the
>>>>>> Zuccotti and I
>>>>>> > >>> managed to stream almost all of police abuse.
>>>>>> > >>> You can watch my vids just by Googling three words: ustream
>>>>>> recai
>>>>>> > >>> iskender
>>>>>> > >>> Today I will be livestreaming Eric's occupy SEC activity in the
>>>>>> Zuccotti
>>>>>> > >>> park from noon to 2pm.
>>>>>> > >>> Best,
>>>>>> > >>> Rocky Recai Iskender