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  1. [QUOTE="FBH, post: 10199535, member: 49"]I am honestly pretty deeply skeptical of the Kosovo intervention as a thing.
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  3. Like, you can argue that non-intervention would have ended up with a lot of displaced people, and that's true, but I think it's incredibly difficult to justify the belief that the best we could do in countering it was to conduct an operation which meant that rather than a regional minority getting cleansed from its region, it got to ethnically cleanse everyone else from there, commit a bunch of war crimes and then invade another country. Add to that a boat load of horrible international consequences and I think that this argument is bullshit.
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  5. Kosovo is second only to Libya in terms of bad R2P interventions.
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  7. Again. The Serbs were also subject to numerous genocide attempts in the Bosnian and Croation wars.[/QUOTE]
  8. Which made up less than 10% of the genocide attempts, whereas the Serbs were the perpetrators of 10x as many atrocities. I doubt that the opposition here is genuine principled opposition to intervention and imperialism rather than being Serbian apologia, because if this were something resembling principled opposition to Imperialism you would obviously be showing far more opposition to the genocidal, imperialist regime of Milosevic which had committed the vast majority of genocidal war crimes in the Bosnian wars and was currently committing the vast majority of the atrocities in the Kosovo war. The militants going and killing Serbian farmers were pretty awful people, but when one side is building actual no-shit death camps and you're defending them that's pretty revealing with what you're willing to defend. That is, you will voice your support for the people committing capital G-Genocide because they opposed America and the West more generally.
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  10. You do not have a better reason to defend them. You only defend them because they oppose America and the West. This is a classic far-right diversionary tactic, wherein reactionaries and pseudo-fascists in foreign countries skew the narrative and appropriate leftist language to portray themselves as the victims of imperialist aggression. In this case they clearly succeeded with winning you over because you clearly do not check your sources.
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  12. Congratulations, you put so little effort into examining your own beliefs that you will defend perpetrators of genocide without an ounce of self-awareness. Pretending that you actually are coming at this from a humanitarian position is not only laughable, it is entirely offensive to the hundreds of thousands of survivors of this and repeated other atrocities aided and abetted by the Milosevic regime which you are so enthusiastic to defend. This might seem somewhat accusatory but then again I'm not the guy who just so happens to oppose every major action taken in opposition to a genocidal Serbian regime that killed hundreds of thousands.
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