<00:46:21> "Abyss": audrey
<00:46:24> "Abyss": u joining if?
<00:46:33> "Abyss": or staying brut
<00:47:04> "Audrey": Haven't decided
<00:47:08> "Audrey": prob stay brut
<00:47:14> "Audrey": im just here to help Liam either way
<00:47:14> "Abyss": just spy on brut lmao
<00:47:19> "Abyss": they fucking suck
<00:47:20> "Abyss": dead clan
<00:47:28> "Abyss": filled with retards
<00:47:43> "Audrey": are you letting ppl multiclan if they join IF?
<00:47:47> "Audrey": seen a few ct kids in here
<00:48:06> "Abyss": we have a lot of ex-if and ex-tuf and if isnt open yet
<00:48:23> "Abyss": do brut officials
<00:48:28> "Abyss": know that you're undecided?
<00:48:58> "Audrey": ye I told them I was most likely going to stay with them, but was gonna stick around here for the first few days to assist
<00:49:03> "Audrey": theyre fine w/it
<00:49:14> "Abyss": they must be more desperate than i thought
<00:49:23> "Abyss": ive seen them kick people in the past for considering leaving brut
<00:49:37> "Audrey": they said no hard feelings if i picked otherwise
<00:49:44> "Abyss": for now
<00:49:59> "Abyss": because they want you to feel welcome
<00:50:48> "Abyss": on top of the scummy stuff like doxing their ex-official idk why people even want to be in brut they're legit the worst clan in p2p lol
<00:51:42> "Audrey": well I've been enjoying brut, wouldn't mind being a rank again but i'm weary of IF just because I don't think it'll have the best member quality
<00:51:55> "Abyss": if you want the honest truth
<00:51:58> "Abyss": IF isn't going to last lol.
<00:52:05> "Audrey": yeah i know they arent
<00:52:11> "Audrey": which is why im staying w/brut lol
<00:52:14> "Abyss": Rendual has said they're going to reopen 5-6 times before they closed
<00:52:25> "Audrey": i'll help them start things off, but I'm not wasting my time with a TUF remake
<00:53:07> "Abyss": why don't you do us both favor and just leak already lol
<00:53:13> "Abyss": you can stay in w/e f2p clan you're in
<00:53:22> "Abyss": you have many friends here
<00:53:28> "Abyss": the clan is obviously secure and not going anywhere
<00:53:32> "Abyss": we're on top of our game
<00:53:35> "Abyss": and you can make some cash
<00:53:49> "Abyss": plus, why would you want to assist people who dox people and contribute to the scum on this game?
<00:53:53> "Abyss": no better than sv tbh.
<00:54:09> "Abyss": i had to expose them before it went too far, pathetic really
<00:54:45> "Abyss": also, no offense but you've been on the side of the crash war that's always on the losing side, brut/vr
<00:54:51> "Abyss": wouldn't you rather be on the winning side for a bit? lol
<00:56:18> "Audrey": I don't really know much about the dox/ely shit, trying to stay out of that lol. And I don't mind really the losing/winning aspect of things, although its important - I don't want to be viewed as a snake and abandoning friends just because a clan isn't doing 'the best'..
<00:56:52> "Abyss": ok, we'll start on the dox/ely and i'll articulate to each point you made
<00:57:04> "Abyss": the dox/ely was basically a virtual assault on Matty the ex-captain
<00:57:13> "Abyss": Matty was in brutality before but he was constantly disrespected and mistreated
<00:57:32> "Abyss": he evented up leaving and during that time he expressed his feeling to us towards brutality and the way they treated him
<00:57:47> "Abyss": eventually he rejoined but they continued to constantly make fun of him, bully him, and treat him as if he were not a human
<00:58:03> "Abyss": So, like any other person, they can only take so much until he decided to take Jay's elysian
<00:58:11> "Abyss": because jay constantly treated him poorly and put him down
<00:58:30> "Abyss": they also asked him to apply again and made him apply about 8 times to get in, shows the man was dedicated and they still mistreated him
<00:58:48> "Abyss": so, once he took the elysian, they proceeded to mess with his family and start messaging his mother on facebook threatening her
<00:58:57> "Audrey": I see.. yeah that must've all been before I joined/right before
<00:59:04> "Abyss": right around the time you joined
<00:59:08> "Abyss": maybe a week before?
<00:59:26> "Abyss": if you check CT forums, I posted the full logs of him telling me everything
<00:59:42> "Abyss": brutality will lie and say i fabricated it and it's a complete lie
<00:59:50> "Abyss": but theres no possible way i could know all that
<01:00:19> "Abyss": especially since they admitted to it
<01:00:22> "Abyss": and made stupid claims like
<01:00:31> "Abyss": 'We did contact his mom but we weren't going to do anything'
<01:00:32> "Abyss": As if...
<01:00:41> "Abyss": Why bring somebodies family into a game?
<01:00:53> "Abyss": Especially to harm somebody who was dedicated to your clan
<01:01:01> "Abyss": pathetic honestly
<01:01:18> "Abyss": Any questions? or should i go into the next point lol
<01:01:59> "Audrey": you can keep going :p I'll have to revisit the topics tomorrow on both forums as I just sort of skim read them lol
<01:02:13> "Abyss": understandable
<01:02:29> "Abyss": i have a lot more to post but i didn't want them to harm the boy or his mother
<01:02:39> "Abyss": so i kept it to only what was needed to be seen
<01:02:44> "Abyss": anyways
<01:02:46> "Abyss": winning and losing
<01:03:05> "Abyss": if it's not important to you i can understand why you'd want to be brut lol, but surely you enjoy fighting teams? brutality runs from like... everybody lol
<01:03:17> "Abyss": we actually have fights with real clans and we don't make excuses like they do
<01:03:36> "Abyss": when we're 1v1ing brutality and AF crash us, we don't bitch out and run even though it's been confirmed many times that they call them
<01:03:38> "Abyss": we stand our ground
<01:03:46> "Abyss": that should be important
<01:04:41> "Audrey": everytime I've pked with them they are pretty keen to fight anyone, even if they have lower opts. but i guess theres the argument that you guys call rot etc
<01:05:01> "Abyss": the thing is this, rot's proven many times that they've got spies in AF and Brutality
<01:05:19> "Abyss": many times both clans have been not only leaked on and hit constantly, but also numerous times when we're not even pking
<01:05:31> "Abyss": rot has their own intel, we don't call them, we don't need  to
<01:05:55> "Abyss": saying 'you called rot' is an easy cop out for them to leave, however when AF crash us we don't leave
<01:06:07> "Abyss": we don't like the cop out's
<01:06:25> "Abyss": There's a reason brutaltiy has a shared IRC with AF
<01:06:31> "Abyss": It's because they're helpless without them
<01:06:49> "Audrey": I didn't even know they had a shared irc lol
<01:06:52> "Abyss": they do
<01:07:01> "Abyss": ranks only
<01:07:04> "Abyss": they'll never talk about it
<01:07:06> "Abyss": but it's true
<01:07:06> "Audrey": ahh makes sense
<01:07:15> "Abyss": also, when SV leaked their forums
<01:07:19> "Abyss": there were at least 5-10 topics
<01:07:25> "Abyss": about them calling AF to crash us every time they see us
<01:07:37> "Abyss": and made up excuses saying 'lets only hit and run ct dont fight them' etc
<01:08:18> "Abyss": we never called rot when we fought tuf, so why would we when we fight brut? i personally think tuf was better than brutality, theres seriously no reason to call anybody against brut lol they're not good.
<01:09:04> "Abyss": but yeah, i wouldn't say you're abandoning your friends either or would be seen as a snake
<01:09:21> "Abyss": if anything, you abandoned them by joining brutality when all the people you've pked with the last year+ are now in CT
<01:11:32> "Audrey": There were multiple reasons I left TUF and brut has had fights against Fools etc that were uncrashed btw :p I'll talk to jez about it I guess and I'll think it over theres obv. a lot I have to think about
<01:11:41> "Audrey": but how would you want me to contact you?
<01:11:50> "Abyss": irc is a good way
<01:11:58> "Abyss": kik
<01:11:59> "Audrey": your nick is still just Abyss ?
<01:12:01> "Abyss": teamspeak
<01:12:02> "Abyss": etc
<01:12:03> "Abyss": yes
<01:12:08> "Audrey": alright
<01:12:13> "Abyss": im usually on unless i'm getting ddosed loll
<01:12:23> "Abyss": and i'm an insomniac i sleep like 2 hours a day you can usually find me
<01:12:49> "Abyss": just, consider it
<01:12:52> "Abyss": money to be made
<01:12:54> "Abyss": a bright future
<01:12:55> "Audrey": alright. what kind of stuff do you want leaked etc?
<01:13:06> "Abyss": forums/teamspeak audio and ingame locations
<01:13:09> "Abyss": will be paid well for all of them
<01:13:13> "Audrey": do you pay after hits or what? ive never leaked lmao
<01:13:14> "Abyss": and auto accepted once finished
<01:13:20> "Abyss": yeah after each hit
<01:13:38> "Abyss": and once u get caught or we tell you its ok
<01:13:41> "Abyss": you can just come to CT
<01:13:45> "Abyss": so no re-application process
<01:13:49> "Abyss": it's like you only joined one clan
<01:14:22> "Audrey": Okay.. well, like i said i'll consider it and will let you know for sure
<01:14:26> "Abyss": sounds good
<01:14:32> "Abyss": also, was it keifer's birthday yesterday?
<01:14:35> "Audrey": apparently
<01:14:36> "Abyss": i saw some post on their forums
<01:14:38> "Abyss": ok now that
<01:14:40> "Abyss": is strange
<01:14:42> "Abyss": ct leader and brut leader
<01:14:45> "Abyss": same birthday
<01:14:46> "Abyss": lmfao
<01:14:48> "Audrey": l0l awk
<01:14:54> "Audrey": yours or christy?
<01:14:56> "Abyss": mine
<01:15:02> "Audrey": oh, happy belated birthday
<01:15:07> "Abyss": thank you lol
<01:15:13> "Audrey": do anything special?
<01:15:23> "Abyss": nah not really, celebrating next weekend
<01:15:43> "Abyss": im italian so we have like big family get-togethers
<01:15:47> "Abyss": for birthdays and shit
<01:15:59> "Abyss": but everyone was busy this weekend so we're gonna do next weekend probs
<01:17:05> "Abyss": brb
<01:17:35> "Audrey": no worries, oh nice haha, family has never rlly done anything huge personally lol