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  1. Session Start: Thu Nov 30 12:40:19 2017
  2. Session Ident: TheOtherWhiteMeat
  3. [12:40:19] Session Ident: TheOtherWhiteMeat (Atrum, MrDominant) (woof@mooooooo.moo.somemoremooo)
  4. [12:40:19] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you're an idiot. There was no racism but please be the irrational person that you are. I'm more educated than you but keep throwing your personal remarks my way. Its fun watching people like you think they know better. You don't. but i'll sort this out myself. you just sit there and look pretty
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  6. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat is woof@mooooooo.moo.somemoremooo * woof
  7. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat on #flirt #flirt-lobby
  8. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat is using AdiIRC 2.9 64 Bit
  9. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat using apollo.jhb.za.atrum.org Johannesburg, ZA (About IT Online)
  10. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat is logged in as TheOtherWhiteMeat
  11. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat is a registered nick
  12. [12:40:19] TheOtherWhiteMeat End of /WHOIS list.
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  14. [12:40:50] <MrDominant> you see
  15. [12:40:55] <MrDominant> that's the problem with trying to talk to you
  16. [12:40:58] <MrDominant> I literally just said this
  17. [12:41:04] <MrDominant> I am going to give TOWM another chance in lobby
  18. [12:41:08] <MrDominant> before you say anything
  19. [12:41:09] <MrDominant> hear me out
  20. [12:41:09] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Problem with trying to talk to me?
  21. [12:41:20] <MrDominant> then you can throw whatever you want my way
  22. [12:41:25] <MrDominant> ok?
  23. [12:41:29] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> lol...
  24. [12:41:35] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm talking to you in person now
  25. [12:41:41] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> as your idea of racism is warped
  26. [12:41:49] <MrDominant> yes, you are speaking to me, I'm asking you to listen
  27. [12:41:51] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> my issue with ops is that I get kicked so supposed racism when there was none
  28. [12:41:56] <MrDominant> wait
  29. [12:42:00] <MrDominant> we'll get there in a second
  30. [12:42:05] <MrDominant> I'm asking if you are prepared to listen to me for a second.
  31. [12:42:11] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you forget I was an op here. I quit due to other ops pulling their friends infront of everyone and it creating issues between ops and admin
  32. [12:42:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm prepared to listen sure
  33. [12:42:29] <MrDominant> I haven't forgotten you were an op here dude.
  34. [12:42:35] <MrDominant> here is what I am asking of you.
  35. [12:42:43] <MrDominant> obviously, it's your choice to do so or not.
  36. [12:43:05] <MrDominant> I am asking if you are prepared to have a civil conversation, without getting emotionally involved, and to discuss the point, not the person.
  37. [12:43:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm not emotionally involved. I just hate irrational thinking
  38. [12:43:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I joined lobby and asked what was racist and I got no proper reasoning or answer
  39. [12:43:40] <MrDominant> yes or no.
  40. [12:43:42] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> instead you and stealthcubz calling me a dick etc
  41. [12:43:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so please. if you want me to respect you then be respectful yourself. two way street
  42. [12:44:00] <MrDominant> dude that was then, this is now
  43. [12:44:01] <MrDominant> I am asking
  44. [12:44:06] <MrDominant> from here onwards
  45. [12:44:09] <MrDominant> mutual ground.
  46. [12:44:21] <MrDominant> I am prepared to listen to you
  47. [12:44:24] <MrDominant> if you are prepared to listen to me
  48. [12:44:39] <MrDominant> but I also know I might not agree with what you have to say, and visa versa
  49. [12:45:38] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you might not
  50. [12:45:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you can tell me whatever you want. I'll listen
  51. [12:45:48] <MrDominant> Ok.
  52. [12:45:55] <MrDominant> Good, now we are at least on the same page
  53. [12:46:06] <MrDominant> Here is what I personally found wrong with your statement.
  54. [12:46:09] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but you might not like when you see what I really am Like. NOt a threat. I just have a feeling that your impression of me is warped and rather misguided
  55. [12:46:33] <MrDominant> Your intention might not have been to be racist, and from your outlook sure, but to others it sounded racist
  56. [12:46:43] <MrDominant> there are people here that are far too sensitive to most things being said
  57. [12:46:47] <MrDominant> aimed at them or not
  58. [12:47:00] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> sounded racist how?
  59. [12:47:11] <MrDominant> Let me grab the entire conversation
  60. [12:47:14] <MrDominant> gimme a sec
  61. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> <thatou> Ell boring with no indians
  62. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:06:54] * Ethanxx (chat27@atrum-2ko.3u3.234.128.IP) joins #flirt
  63. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:07:34] <StealthCubz> Samanthadevilliers: are you hot ?
  64. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:07:46] <J> aphro?
  65. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:07:53] <StealthCubz> thatou: why does race matter
  66. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:16] <MDE> plz don't injun in here, # is blessedly free of ethnic cusinine chat for a change
  67. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so you say that all races are boring except indians?
  68. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> thats racist
  69. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> wtf
  70. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:27] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> whites are quite exciting
  71. [12:47:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:28] * J was kicked from #flirt by FluffySocks (aphro? no just naptime)
  72. [12:47:17] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:36] * thatou (chat27@atrum-34363g.telkomadsl.co.za) has quit IRC (Quit: Join us on www.chat27.co.za <3 ))
  73. [12:47:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they put on bedsheets and pointy hats
  74. [12:47:19] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:45] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> chase people at night on horses
  75. [12:47:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:08:54] <MDE> whites go to the moon, others wallow in filth huffing jenkem
  76. [12:47:21] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:08] <yolo> oooh, here we go again!
  77. [12:47:22] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:09] <StealthCubz> MDE: :/
  78. [12:47:23] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:09] <yolo> lol
  79. [12:47:24] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:10] <StealthCubz> relax
  80. [12:47:25] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:13] * Mickey (dbprice@atrum-23i.veu.89.197.IP) joins #flirt
  81. [12:47:26] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:14] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> sometimes they get a god complex and start a little war in the EU
  82. [12:47:27] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:18] <MDE> east asians are honourary tho
  83. [12:47:28] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:23] * katie (just@sweet.as.lemonhoney) has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 181 seconds)
  84. [12:47:29] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:09:29] * You were kicked by FluffySocks (stop it with the racist crap!!!!!)
  85. [12:47:30] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> there
  86. [12:47:32] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> what is racist about that?
  87. [12:47:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> its a joke in response to someone who was in fact racist
  88. [12:48:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> MDE however is a racist
  89. [12:48:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but thats a different topic
  90. [12:48:45] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> also based on other things he has said
  91. [12:48:54] <MrDominant> I can copy paste dude, I'm taking the bits in pieces out that have no relevance
  92. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so you say that all races are boring except indians?
  93. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> thats racist
  94. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> wtf
  95. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:28] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> whites are quite exciting
  96. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they put on bedsheets and pointy hats
  97. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:08:45] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> chase people at night on horses
  98. [12:48:56] <MrDominant> [12:09:15] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> sometimes they get a god complex and start a little war in the EU
  99. [12:49:16] <MrDominant> the bedsheets and pointy hats refers to racist groups, while not inherently racist, it can incite people
  100. [12:49:25] <MrDominant> the comment about god complex, is racist
  101. [12:49:32] <MrDominant> your comment was "they" not "people"
  102. [12:49:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so its not racist? but can incite racism
  103. [12:49:37] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm making fun of the kkk
  104. [12:49:38] <MrDominant> in context you were referring to a specific race
  105. [12:49:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> its not racist
  106. [12:49:41] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but can incite it
  107. [12:49:44] <MrDominant> in this case, whites
  108. [12:49:46] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so I wasn't racist?
  109. [12:49:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but I was called racist
  110. [12:50:01] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you changing the narrative to suit your needs here
  111. [12:50:23] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> dude. why does the pronoun matter?
  112. [12:50:28] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they refers to a group
  113. [12:50:34] <MrDominant> [12:48:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> MDE however is a racist <-- MDE in my opinion is an idiot, so I ignore him/her/it most of the time.
  114. [12:50:34] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> people they them
  115. [12:50:38] <MrDominant> I haven't spoken to them much
  116. [12:50:42] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> lets not talk about mde
  117. [12:50:55] <MrDominant> then don't bring him up?
  118. [12:51:00] <MrDominant> I'm not changing the narrative
  119. [12:51:05] <MrDominant> stop accusing me of things I am not doing
  120. [12:51:08] <MrDominant> I'm discussing it with you
  121. [12:51:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> topic
  122. [12:51:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:48:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> also based on other things h
  123. [12:51:15] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> argh
  124. [12:51:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> that failed
  125. [12:51:32] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> ok hold on
  126. [12:51:34] <MrDominant> yeah, you don't see me rubbing your face into that copy paste?
  127. [12:51:36] <MrDominant> .
  128. [12:51:38] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you in the lobby said I was racist?
  129. [12:51:49] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:48:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> MDE however is a racist
  130. [12:51:49] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> [12:48:19] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but thats a different topic
  131. [12:51:51] <MrDominant> on second thought, your comment was not racist
  132. [12:51:57] <MrDominant> I agree
  133. [12:51:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> oh now on second thought
  134. [12:52:02] <MrDominant> wait.
  135. [12:52:04] <MrDominant> I'm not done.
  136. [12:52:18] <MrDominant> the kick reason given, is unjustified, I'll speak to the other ops about it
  137. [12:52:23] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> no. you say that it could incite racism (hence changing the narrative)
  138. [12:52:24] <MrDominant> I did not kick you, in case you were wondering
  139. [12:52:26] <MrDominant> hold on.
  140. [12:52:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> who did lol
  141. [12:52:46] <MrDominant> the fact that it can and will trigger others, is the reason the kick was given
  142. [12:53:01] <MrDominant> to be honest, most of today (from what I've read, and I haven't been here the whole time), you've been baiting people
  143. [12:53:07] <MrDominant> baiting, isn't bad in small doses
  144. [12:53:13] <MrDominant> you thrive on baiting people and getting a reaction out of them
  145. [12:53:15] <MrDominant> I know, I do the same
  146. [12:53:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I baited JohnCreed
  147. [12:53:18] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I admitted that
  148. [12:53:19] <MrDominant> the difference, I think is
  149. [12:53:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and that was it
  150. [12:53:24] <MrDominant> you don't know where to draw the line
  151. [12:53:28] <MrDominant> or you do, and you do not care if you cross it
  152. [12:53:30] <MrDominant> you keep at it
  153. [12:53:41] <MrDominant> and eventually you get people to get pissed off and emotional
  154. [12:53:44] <MrDominant> and that's the inherent problem
  155. [12:53:50] <MrDominant> IE, being a "dick" 24/7
  156. [12:53:55] <MrDominant> as opposed to being a dick 30% of the time.
  157. [12:54:17] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> show me where else I baited someone today other than johncreed please
  158. [12:54:35] <MrDominant> not just today dude, you do it a lot
  159. [12:54:39] <MrDominant> you'll sit in mains
  160. [12:54:42] <MrDominant> hell you've baited me plenty
  161. [12:54:45] <MrDominant> I just don't react to it
  162. [12:54:57] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've baited you because of your comments and actions as an op
  163. [12:55:02] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you don't follow the rules of an op
  164. [12:55:07] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've seen you mention me many times
  165. [12:55:09] <MrDominant> so whilst you might ask for concrete evidence, making it a black/white situation, the reality is, it isn't
  166. [12:55:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> calling me names
  167. [12:55:13] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> when I've said nothing to you
  168. [12:55:15] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so thats why
  169. [12:55:23] <MrDominant> wait
  170. [12:55:26] <MrDominant> let me ask you this.
  171. [12:55:36] <MrDominant> [12:54:57] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've baited you because of your comments and actions as an op <-- as an OP, do I not qualify as a chatter either?
  172. [12:55:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> changing the context now from today to all the time
  173. [12:55:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> what relevance does that have?
  174. [12:56:03] <MrDominant> simple
  175. [12:56:10] <MrDominant> as an op I can have an opinion
  176. [12:56:12] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> an op can not bait another chatter and then kick them
  177. [12:56:13] <MrDominant> as a person/chatter
  178. [12:56:14] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you have done that
  179. [12:56:18] <MrDominant> I have ?
  180. [12:56:20] <MrDominant> where?
  181. [12:56:21] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you have also taken a complaint from lobby into main
  182. [12:56:26] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you not allowed to do that either
  183. [12:56:31] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> a while back. I can't remember
  184. [12:56:34] <MrDominant> well
  185. [12:56:37] <MrDominant> then it means nothing
  186. [12:56:43] <MrDominant> as neither you or I can provide logs
  187. [12:56:44] <MrDominant> so
  188. [12:56:46] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> well then what you say means nothing
  189. [12:56:46] <MrDominant> how about this.
  190. [12:56:48] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> because I asked where
  191. [12:56:51] <MrDominant> wait.
  192. [12:56:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> or does this only work one way?
  193. [12:56:53] <MrDominant> how about this
  194. [12:56:59] <MrDominant> if I'm honest, I've probably baited people
  195. [12:57:07] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you have quite often
  196. [12:57:08] <MrDominant> if I have kicked them for rising to the bait, there's generally a reason
  197. [12:57:09] <MrDominant> wait
  198. [12:57:12] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you said so in lobby yourself now
  199. [12:57:25] <MrDominant> the only people I can recall kicking, in recent memory
  200. [12:57:28] <MrDominant> are the trolls
  201. [12:57:34] <MrDominant> people such as J, ruby et al.
  202. [12:57:36] <MrDominant> gangster
  203. [12:57:41] <MrDominant> now I'm human, I make mistakes
  204. [12:57:45] <MrDominant> and I'm happy to apologize
  205. [12:57:50] <MrDominant> I'm not gonna defend a shitty decision
  206. [12:57:52] <MrDominant> with shitty logic.
  207. [12:57:55] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm not in this to make you apologise
  208. [12:58:07] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> or anything like that
  209. [12:58:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Flirts ops are lacking in many ways
  210. [12:58:16] <MrDominant> [12:52:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> who did lol <-- I don't know. was via chanserv
  211. [12:58:28] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> more so than in the past
  212. [12:58:35] <MrDominant> flirt ops are people
  213. [12:58:36] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and now the whole of chillroom is back in there again
  214. [12:58:41] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> johncreed and his legion of trolls
  215. [12:58:42] <MrDominant> and people inherently are imperfect
  216. [12:58:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but thats ok
  217. [12:58:50] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I know that full well
  218. [12:59:04] <MrDominant> but you seem to think (or it sounds like) you are faultless
  219. [12:59:11] <MrDominant> because no matter who points out what to you
  220. [12:59:14] <MrDominant> you defend it
  221. [12:59:15] <MrDominant> no matter what
  222. [12:59:18] <MrDominant> even in this conversation
  223. [12:59:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> do the following. Expect that I already know all of this. because I'll be honest. You have said nothing to me that I didn't expect or that I don't know. You have made some mistakes but thats ok
  224. [12:59:23] <MrDominant> you have not admitted directly or indirectly
  225. [12:59:26] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I am not faultless
  226. [12:59:28] <MrDominant> that you were inciting bullshit in mains
  227. [12:59:35] <MrDominant> you admitted that you trolled JC
  228. [12:59:36] <MrDominant> that was it
  229. [12:59:39] <MrDominant> what about the other times?
  230. [12:59:41] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> yes and?
  231. [12:59:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> what other times?
  232. [12:59:45] <MrDominant> what about the fact that you do it MOST of the time
  233. [12:59:48] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> show them to me please
  234. [12:59:54] <MrDominant> ie, you sit there and have a go to anyone who dares to say anything
  235. [12:59:57] <MrDominant> and you can ask for logs
  236. [13:00:01] <MrDominant> but the truth is, you know as well as I do
  237. [13:00:06] <MrDominant> you enjoy getting a rise out of people
  238. [13:00:12] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> No i don't
  239. [13:00:14] <MrDominant> and when cornered, you get mean and defensive
  240. [13:00:17] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you don't understand me
  241. [13:00:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> that much is clear
  242. [13:00:32] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> now please can you hold on and read the following carefully
  243. [13:00:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> because your perspective is a bit off track
  244. [13:00:47] <MrDominant> I don't understand you? like it's my fault?
  245. [13:00:53] <MrDominant> like I need to understand you, to know when you're being a dick?
  246. [13:00:56] <MrDominant> I don't.
  247. [13:00:57] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I don't blame you
  248. [13:01:06] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you can't keep quiet and listen but you expect me to?
  249. [13:01:09] <MrDominant> I'm capable of understanding when a person is intentionally being a dick
  250. [13:01:13] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm getting to the point
  251. [13:01:21] <MrDominant> [13:01:06] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you can't keep quiet and listen but you expect me to? <-- you've interrupted me
  252. [13:01:24] <MrDominant> at every chance you've gotten
  253. [13:01:25] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> My intention is what you are missing but ok
  254. [13:01:43] <MrDominant> the topic here is whether your comments in main were racist
  255. [13:01:45] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> look at the specific people that I do have issue with on irc
  256. [13:01:48] <MrDominant> No, they weren't inherently racist
  257. [13:01:50] <MrDominant> the kick reason was wrong
  258. [13:02:10] <MrDominant> however, based on the fact that for most of the day you've been trolling people, baiting them and making flirt a generally toxic place hasn't gone unnoticed
  259. [13:02:22] <MrDominant> add on top of that, sparking a conversation that could turn racist, led to the kick
  260. [13:02:31] <MrDominant> TheOtherWhiteMeat
  261. [13:02:40] <MrDominant> I used to be a lot like you at some point in my life
  262. [13:02:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so the kick is invalid but you try and justify it
  263. [13:02:47] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> regardless
  264. [13:02:48] <MrDominant> may I offer a bit of advice
  265. [13:02:50] <MrDominant> use it or don't
  266. [13:02:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> no
  267. [13:03:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you want to be heard
  268. [13:03:06] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you don't want to listen
  269. [13:03:09] <MrDominant> you will simply not get along with some people, just ignore them and move on, they are not worth your energy
  270. [13:03:09] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you have made up your mind
  271. [13:03:11] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and thats ok
  272. [13:03:40] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you even said that what I said in main was racist. but you reviewed it now and said it wasn't. but now what led to the kick is suppose to justify it.
  273. [13:03:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm done listening to you
  274. [13:03:47] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you want to know why I'm a dick
  275. [13:03:56] <MrDominant> sure
  276. [13:03:57] <MrDominant> tell me
  277. [13:04:06] <MrDominant> [13:02:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> so the kick is invalid but you try and justify it <-- actually
  278. [13:04:09] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> because of people like Shaolin, JohnCreed, Sexything... Bias from ops who pull their friends ahead
  279. [13:04:12] <MrDominant> [12:52:18] <MrDominant> the kick reason given, is unjustified, I'll speak to the other ops about it
  280. [13:04:15] <MrDominant> convenient eh?
  281. [13:04:19] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I was baited for 3 days by neuromike and jellybean ignores it
  282. [13:04:30] <MrDominant> actually
  283. [13:04:31] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Pax sits and talks down to everyone
  284. [13:04:32] <MrDominant> I stepped in
  285. [13:04:39] <MrDominant> re neuromike
  286. [13:04:43] <MrDominant> he's on a very short chain
  287. [13:04:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> yeah sure you did. go read how you stepped in
  288. [13:04:50] <MrDominant> I stepped in after the fact
  289. [13:04:51] <MrDominant> FYI
  290. [13:04:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and when
  291. [13:05:05] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> the reason I mentioned what I did in the lobby was for loerboer
  292. [13:05:07] <MrDominant> you say I've made up my mind
  293. [13:05:13] <MrDominant> yet I've taken the initiative and time to try and reason with you
  294. [13:05:14] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> to show him the incompetence of his ops.
  295. [13:05:16] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Pax and bigfathairybiker sit in chat and call people idiots. talk down to people. They provoke others. Pax has a god complex and biker is biker.
  296. [13:05:22] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> johncreed tells people to go fuck children
  297. [13:05:30] <MrDominant> johncreed imho is an idiot
  298. [13:05:32] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> shaoin is a shit stirrer with a chip on his shoulder
  299. [13:05:34] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> etc etc
  300. [13:05:34] <MrDominant> I don't react to what he says
  301. [13:05:36] <MrDominant> as I've ignored him
  302. [13:05:38] <MrDominant> in totality
  303. [13:05:38] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> johncreed is a piece of shit
  304. [13:05:42] <MrDominant> I agree
  305. [13:05:51] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> those are the people I focus on
  306. [13:05:53] <MrDominant> shaolin, don't even get me started
  307. [13:05:56] <MrDominant> also ignored
  308. [13:05:59] <MrDominant> but that's what I'm asking
  309. [13:06:00] <MrDominant> why?
  310. [13:06:02] <MrDominant> why focus on them?
  311. [13:06:09] <MrDominant> why are you so hellbent on showing them how wrong/fucked up they are?
  312. [13:06:13] <MrDominant> why do you care about them?
  313. [13:06:17] <MrDominant> they do not matter in your life
  314. [13:06:22] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> because its unnecessary
  315. [13:06:23] <MrDominant> they are not worth your energy/words
  316. [13:06:27] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and turns the channel to shit
  317. [13:06:31] <MrDominant> it does
  318. [13:06:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> look what happens when johncreed joins
  319. [13:06:39] <MrDominant> but if you care about the channel, going by what your comment implies
  320. [13:06:44] <MrDominant> why add to what makes the channel shit?
  321. [13:06:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Caring for the channel but the ops don't do their job
  322. [13:06:54] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've mentioned this
  323. [13:06:58] <MrDominant> yeah
  324. [13:07:01] <MrDominant> and I've been a op for how long?
  325. [13:07:02] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I know loerboer better than you do
  326. [13:07:11] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I don't know and don't care
  327. [13:07:12] <MrDominant> so I must fix all my predecessors faults instantly
  328. [13:07:20] <MrDominant> that's not being reasonable
  329. [13:07:21] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but like I said. your perspective here is wrong
  330. [13:07:22] <MrDominant> I'll change what I can
  331. [13:07:28] <MrDominant> and people such as shaolin/jc etc
  332. [13:07:30] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> no
  333. [13:07:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I didn't say you
  334. [13:07:34] <MrDominant> are sores that need to be removed
  335. [13:07:47] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> my original issue was with jellybean and chanel. they are the ones that created the problem in the first place
  336. [13:07:57] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you and stealthcubz, if you follow op rules, will be fine
  337. [13:07:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but you don't
  338. [13:08:00] <MrDominant> [13:07:02] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I know loerboer better than you do <-- can you stop with the comments?
  339. [13:08:01] <MrDominant> seriously?
  340. [13:08:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you think you can ignore rules
  341. [13:08:21] <MrDominant> not every rule is justified
  342. [13:08:26] <MrDominant> there's also a rule to respect chatters
  343. [13:08:31] <MrDominant> yet you've chosen to ignore that
  344. [13:08:31] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> there is
  345. [13:08:42] <MrDominant> so I can enforce that every time you step a little out of line
  346. [13:08:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've chosen to ignore it?
  347. [13:08:44] <MrDominant> yet I choose not to
  348. [13:08:53] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> if people ignore respecting me then why should I respect back?
  349. [13:09:00] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> pay attention how I am to people that show me respect
  350. [13:09:08] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and how I am to those who don't show any respect to anyone
  351. [13:09:16] <MrDominant> so if you want to talk about things in a black and white sense, do so 24/7
  352. [13:09:17] <MrDominant> not when it suits you
  353. [13:09:28] <MrDominant> TheOtherWhiteMeat
  354. [13:09:39] <MrDominant> Do the people who disrespect you, matter to you?
  355. [13:09:44] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> no
  356. [13:09:46] <MrDominant> are they important to you in any shape or form?
  357. [13:09:48] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they fuck up the chat though
  358. [13:09:49] <MrDominant> then why care?
  359. [13:09:51] <MrDominant> okay
  360. [13:09:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> as Ive mentioned
  361. [13:09:54] <MrDominant> then let me handle it
  362. [13:10:00] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they sit there and talk down to people
  363. [13:10:02] <MrDominant> I'll get the rest of the guys to clean it up
  364. [13:10:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you get stalkers
  365. [13:10:06] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and idiots like j
  366. [13:10:16] <MrDominant> Tell you what
  367. [13:10:20] <MrDominant> how about a wager
  368. [13:10:23] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you get johncreed with his toilet humour and who thinks that telling people to rape dead children is some kind of art
  369. [13:10:33] <MrDominant> if the channel doesn't change (regards to unwanted elements) in the next 6-8 weeks
  370. [13:10:36] <MrDominant> I'll resign as an op
  371. [13:10:43] <MrDominant> that's what I propose
  372. [13:10:55] <MrDominant> from your side, I ask that you chill a little bit, stop baiting (most) people
  373. [13:11:02] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> most?
  374. [13:11:03] <MrDominant> stop baiting specific trolls like shaolin, JC, etc
  375. [13:11:08] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> who the hell is most O.o
  376. [13:11:08] <MrDominant> most regulars
  377. [13:11:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you talking about 13 people in a channel of more than 60 and on average a 100 at night... as most
  378. [13:11:49] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> j
  379. [13:11:50] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> ruby
  380. [13:11:53] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> shaolin
  381. [13:11:54] <MrDominant> OKay
  382. [13:11:55] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> quarx
  383. [13:11:56] <MrDominant> mr pedantic
  384. [13:11:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> etc
  385. [13:12:02] <MrDominant> stop trolling the people you have issue with
  386. [13:12:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> calling names again
  387. [13:12:05] <MrDominant> I'm asking.
  388. [13:12:15] <MrDominant> that was a tongue in cheek comment
  389. [13:12:15] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I don't troll them. the only one I have trolled was jc
  390. [13:12:20] <MrDominant> I'm making light of the situation
  391. [13:12:26] <MrDominant> Okay
  392. [13:12:29] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> shaolin stopped his shit after katie sorted him out because he starts with me the whole time
  393. [13:12:37] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I told you your perspective needs adjustment
  394. [13:12:39] <MrDominant> I am asking that whatever it is you classify you do (seeing as you refuse to let anyone lable it)
  395. [13:12:41] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> but anyway
  396. [13:12:42] <MrDominant> to do it in a lesser manner
  397. [13:12:44] <MrDominant> I ask that
  398. [13:12:50] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> You don't have to ask me dude
  399. [13:12:51] <MrDominant> in return I will try and improve the channel
  400. [13:12:57] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> do you believe that I don't know any of this?
  401. [13:13:03] <MrDominant> I don't have to, but I do it anyway
  402. [13:13:12] <MrDominant> You said, if people don't respect you, how are you supposed to respect them back
  403. [13:13:13] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> Yeah well don't
  404. [13:13:14] <MrDominant> and I agree with that
  405. [13:13:19] <MrDominant> so, instead of treating you like an asshole
  406. [13:13:21] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> its insulting to my intelligence
  407. [13:13:25] <MrDominant> I'm trying to respect you
  408. [13:13:27] <MrDominant> and treat you as such
  409. [13:13:44] <MrDominant> not everything is about insulting your intelligence
  410. [13:13:49] <MrDominant> you're not the only intelligent person around
  411. [13:13:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> thats fine. but I'm going to ask you this. ANything op related. anything about how that channel is supposed to be handled. Understand that I know all of it already
  412. [13:13:56] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I know I'm not
  413. [13:13:57] <MrDominant> but I'm not comparing dicks right now
  414. [13:14:03] <MrDominant> that's not what I'm trying to talk to you about
  415. [13:14:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm not either
  416. [13:14:06] <MrDominant> Let me recap
  417. [13:14:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I just don't like it when people tell me stuff I already know
  418. [13:14:22] <MrDominant> 1. I apologize on behalf of the ops, the reason the kick given in the kick was wrong
  419. [13:14:31] <MrDominant> you were not racist, but made remarks that could be construed as racist
  420. [13:14:47] <MrDominant> 2. I'm asking, that from here on forward, that you please chill a bit, try and bait the trolls/idiots less
  421. [13:14:56] <MrDominant> and generally try and get a long with more people (I am not saying you don't get along with some)
  422. [13:15:00] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> can be construed? just have to add that in...
  423. [13:15:09] <MrDominant> IN return, I'll try and make the environment better for all of us
  424. [13:15:12] <MrDominant> yourself included
  425. [13:15:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you do realise that you apologizing for ops... when none of them gave you permission to do so... means nothing to me?
  426. [13:15:27] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and I don't care for an apology. just some logic for once
  427. [13:15:27] <MrDominant> [13:14:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I just don't like it when people tell me stuff I already know <-- for the sake of having said it, so we're both on the same page
  428. [13:15:32] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I'm going to go smoke
  429. [13:15:34] <MrDominant> some thing can be assumed, others are best left said.
  430. [13:15:55] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> best left said. You have had no effect on me with anything you have said
  431. [13:16:43] <MrDominant> so then I'm wasting my time?
  432. [13:16:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you still acting rather arrogant in a way. You are talking to me like an op. You don't bother listening. you make false statements and when I point them out you alter them to suit you. You don't want to be wrong.
  433. [13:16:45] <MrDominant> trying to talk to you?
  434. [13:16:46] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I know I'm a dick
  435. [13:16:48] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and an ass
  436. [13:16:50] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> a lot
  437. [13:16:51] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> ask katie
  438. [13:16:54] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> she knows
  439. [13:16:58] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> I've admitted to it
  440. [13:16:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they all know
  441. [13:17:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they all know why too
  442. [13:17:10] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> all being loerboer and katie and tan etc
  443. [13:17:21] <MrDominant> Really?
  444. [13:17:23] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> They know my reasons
  445. [13:17:26] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> they know that I react
  446. [13:17:27] <MrDominant> wow there is no pleasing you
  447. [13:17:33] <MrDominant> I've tried to be reasonable
  448. [13:17:33] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> They know that I bait people and why I do
  449. [13:17:36] <MrDominant> I've tried to see things from your side
  450. [13:17:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> No
  451. [13:17:40] <MrDominant> and I even apologized
  452. [13:17:44] <MrDominant> yet it's not good enough
  453. [13:17:45] <MrDominant> Right
  454. [13:17:47] <MrDominant> I've tried
  455. [13:17:49] <MrDominant> you can say what you want
  456. [13:17:50] <MrDominant> I'm done.
  457. [13:17:52] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> listen you were doing fine until one thing happened now
  458. [13:18:01] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> <MrDominant> 1. I apologize on behalf of the ops, the reason the kick given in the kick was wrong
  459. [13:18:08] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> thats bullshit and insulting actually
  460. [13:18:11] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> cheers
  461. [13:18:17] <MrDominant> no offence was given
  462. [13:18:19] <MrDominant> it was taken
  463. [13:18:21] <MrDominant> that's on you.
  464. [13:18:27] <MrDominant> But whatever
  465. [13:18:35] <MrDominant> I've tried having a reasonable conversation with you
  466. [13:18:38] <MrDominant> you refuse.
  467. [13:18:39] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> did they all tell you they are sorry?
  468. [13:18:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> are you an admin?
  469. [13:18:45] <MrDominant> why do they
  470. [13:18:47] <MrDominant> have to?
  471. [13:18:50] <MrDominant> does it make a difference?
  472. [13:18:53] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> you talking for people
  473. [13:18:58] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> who didn't give you permission to do so
  474. [13:18:59] <MrDominant> does it make a difference?
  475. [13:19:03] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and you think it means something to me?
  476. [13:19:19] <MrDominant> no
  477. [13:19:20] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> or that I'm suppose to care for that?
  478. [13:19:24] <MrDominant> clearly very little means anything to you
  479. [13:19:26] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> clearly you haven't paid attention to any of this
  480. [13:19:31] <MrDominant> even the fact that I took the time to try and converse with you
  481. [13:19:33] <MrDominant> like an adult
  482. [13:19:39] <MrDominant> yet you find fault with every small thing
  483. [13:19:41] <MrDominant> no matter what
  484. [13:19:42] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> like an adult. sure
  485. [13:19:44] <MrDominant> you are not wrong, ever.
  486. [13:19:46] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> talking down to a person
  487. [13:19:47] <MrDominant> now
  488. [13:19:52] <MrDominant> seeing as you want to behave like a child
  489. [13:19:53] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> your mistake was thinking you have the upper ground here
  490. [13:19:56] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> equal footing
  491. [13:19:59] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> try that instead
  492. [13:20:05] <MrDominant> even after giving you the oppportunity and trying to treat you like an adult
  493. [13:20:06] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> see what I mean
  494. [13:20:09] <MrDominant> I'll treat you like a kid.
  495. [13:20:11] <MrDominant> laters.
  496. [13:20:18] <MrDominant> [13:19:56] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> equal footing <-- I tried that
  497. [13:20:25] <MrDominant> you, Mr God complex, need to get over yourself
  498. [13:20:31] <MrDominant> and I'm ignoring you onwards
  499. [13:20:34] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> now I have a god complex...
  500. [13:20:43] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> and you're still an idiot
  501. [13:20:48] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> thanks for the chat
  502. [13:20:49] <TheOtherWhiteMeat> mwah
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