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Aurora Eller on The View Transcript

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  1. The following is a supplement to a post devoted to celebrity hacking, #TheFappening ring, and The Daily Capper predator ring, which can be found here:
  2. https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/irving-wallaces-the-fan-club-the-fappening/
  3.  
  4. Transcript for the clip on youtube:
  5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8H2TpYORGk
  6.  
  7. ELISABETH HASSELBECK
  8. If your child is one of the millions who use on-line social networks, this may be your wake-up call. A few years ago when Aurora Eller was only thirteen years old, a man she started talking to in a chat room persuaded her to pose in photos and engage in sexual activity over a webcam with her girlfriends. Police were eventually alerted by an anonymous tip, but shockingly, Aurora was charged with two child pornography crimes, and faces five years in prison and may end up on a sex offender list for life. Aurora is here with her father Simon, stepmom Erica, and cyber-crime expert and lawyer, Parry Aftab.
  9.  
  10. HASSELBECK CONT'D
  11. Aurora, thank you for being here. I know this is a difficult time for you. At thirteen, I want you to take us back. You are sixteen now...at thirteen, you were on a social network of sorts, where you began talking and streaming video on-line. Correct me if I'm wrong, a man entered the chat room and started asking you to start doing...sexual, having sexual activity of some sort with your friends...and then started threatening you if you didn't continue. Correct?
  12.  
  13. AURORA ELLER
  14. Yeah.
  15.  
  16. HASSELBECK
  17. What was happening?
  18.  
  19. AURORA
  20. Um...it was just a chat room where...it seems like you're just talking to regular people, but...um, like...there's creepers on-line, and then...they started asking us to do things, and um...after the first time, they used it to threaten me. And if I didn't do it, they would tell my parents, or tell...my school. And I was afraid.
  21.  
  22. BARBARA WALTERS
  23. You must be afraid now, aren't you?
  24.  
  25. AURORA
  26. Yeah.
  27.  
  28. WALTERS
  29. When you did these sexual things with your friends...did you just think it was fun, to do the kinds of things you were doing?
  30.  
  31. AURORA
  32. Um...I don't really know.
  33.  
  34. WALTERS
  35. You were thirteen, and they said do it, and you did it.
  36.  
  37. HASSELBECK
  38. You felt pressure, this person was pressuring you to perform or have these acts, and then using the one time you said yes, to do this and did it, as a threat to get more from you?
  39.  
  40. AURORA
  41. Yeah.
  42.  
  43. HASSELBECK
  44. Okay.
  45.  
  46. WALTERS
  47. You know, as a father you must be frightened yourself and obviously heartbroken. Did you know any of this, did you monitor what she was doing? Did you have any idea of what was going on, Simon?
  48.  
  49. SIMON ELLER
  50. I always monitored what they were doing on-line, using different softwares, and they...I had no idea. Mainly because of Aurora...she had cystic fibrosis, and...
  51.  
  52. WALTERS
  53. She has cystic fibrosis?
  54.  
  55. SIMON
  56. She does. Yeah. She's homebound, so she has to do all of her schoolwork from home. She's always on the computer. I had no idea.
  57.  
  58. HASSELBECK
  59. And schools require work on the computer, so it's very difficult and challenging for a parent to say "You can't be on it." That's almost a non-reality at this point. Uh, Aurora were you drinking at the time?
  60.  
  61. AURORA
  62. Yes.
  63.  
  64. HASSELBECK
  65. Okay. So...under the influence, being persuaded by this man who is yet to be identified, correct?
  66.  
  67. WALTERS
  68. Nobody's found him.
  69.  
  70. HASSELBECK
  71. Nobody's found him.
  72.  
  73. PARRY AFTAB
  74. No one's even looking, and that's the problem. No one's looking. She's the one that's being blamed for all of this.
  75.  
  76. WALTERS
  77. We should point out that you're not their lawyer, but-
  78.  
  79. AFTAB
  80. I run the world's largest and oldest Internet safety charity, Barbara, Wiredsafety. We protect kids on-line.
  81.  
  82. HASSELBECK
  83. I want to...they need more protection than ever, I'd say. But it doesn't seem as if you're getting the kind of protection you deserve at this point. I want to go back even more. Erica, you're Aurora's stepmom, three years from the time she was thirteen, and till just recently, nothing had happened, okay. Someone anonymously tipped off the police just recently. And they then show up at your home...
  84.  
  85. ERICA MCLEAN
  86. Yes.
  87.  
  88. HASSELBECK
  89. ...and begin to question Aurora. And your brother.
  90.  
  91. ERICA
  92. Correct.
  93.  
  94. HASSELBECK
  95. What happened? Just...
  96.  
  97. ERICA
  98. You know, I'm a pediatrician and I was at work, and we immediately headed home, but I was totally confused because...they questioned her before we got home. They pulled her out of our house, questioned her by herself outside, and showed her some provocative pictures without even a female officer being present.
  99.  
  100. HASSELBECK
  101. Is that legal? Parry?
  102.  
  103. AFTAB
  104. You know the laws are different state by state. But she was fifteen at the time, and it's the kind of thing that, most law enforcement officers will wait for a parent to be home to do.
  105.  
  106. WALTERS
  107. If the charges are brought, does she go to trial?
  108.  
  109. AFTAB
  110. The charges have been brought. And she's now being charged with two counts of child pornography.
  111.  
  112. WALTERS
  113. And she could go to prison?
  114.  
  115. AFTAB
  116. She could go to prison, but in all likelihood, if she's found guilty, she will become a registered sex offender.
  117.  
  118. WALTERS
  119. For the rest of her life, there is this mark.
  120.  
  121. AFTAB
  122. She will not be able to live near a school, she won't be able to take certain jobs, she has to notify everybody as to what's she doing. They're going to treat her the way they would treat some creep who's molesting two-year-olds.
  123.  
  124. WALTERS
  125. What do you think should happen? What is the status of the case, what do you think should happen?
  126.  
  127. AFTAB
  128. Well, what I'm hoping to do, and I'll reach out to the prosecutor, is to offer WiredSafety's help. She can do community service with us, we're happy to do public service announcements with her so she warns other kids that sexting is just a dead end, and that you might actually be on the wrong side of the law. And end up being a registered sex offender.
  129.  
  130. HASSELBECK
  131. Can you explain sextortion? This is a new term that's coming out. There's sexting, which is what we're hearing about, and sextortion is indeed what this unidentified male, possibly did do? He's trying to get-
  132.  
  133. AFTAB
  134. And sextortion is very complicated. And what it is, is blackmail using the images. So this guy, or there's several men, we understand, saw the sexual images, and they said "If you don't do more, or engage in sex with us, we are going to make it public." So a lot of the kids now are being sextorted. We've seen so many cases around the country.
  135.  
  136. WALTERS
  137. I want to talk to Aurora. So, when this has happened, you're home, alone, because you're home schooled...you're drinking, which...you shouldn't have been doing at thirteen, okay...and you're going to whatever, for whatever reasons at that time...now, you're older. And there are other kids who are also talking on chat rooms. In chat rooms and so forth. Talk to these other kids and tell them what you think they should do.
  138.  
  139. AURORA
  140. I think they should be careful who they talk to on-line, um, because you never know who you're really talking to. And that they should watch what they do. Watch what they say. Um...just be careful.
  141.  
  142. WALTERS
  143. Do you have advice for parents? Because both of you are loving parents, and you weren't there.
  144.  
  145. SIMON
  146. Monitor more what they're doing, it's very difficult to find out what they're doing. Ask them who they're talking to. Ask who their friends are. Get more involved with your kids.
  147.  
  148. AFTAB
  149. We're holding a summit at the U.S. Senate Wednesday, given entirely by kids, and Aurora's going to be joining us, with people from the industry, Google, the ABC [American Broadcast Company], to Extreme Home Makeovers, and Liberty Mutual, and Facebook. To talk to them about these kinds of issues, and what they need to do to help them stay safer.
  150.  
  151. WALTERS
  152. Why haven't they been able to find the man? If Aurora was able to talk to him, why haven't they been able to?
  153.  
  154. AFTAB
  155. You know, that's the thing I just haven't been able to understand. They're not looking. They looked for her, and they found her. If they found her, they can find these guys. And it was not on Facebook, it was on a site called Stickam. And I've had a lot of problems with Stickam in the past, it's a video, live video streaming site, so a lot of the records may be gone a few years later, but they need to start looking.
  156.  
  157. HASSELBECK
  158. And we'll wait for an update on that legislation, and Aurora, we hope for a great update from you too. Thank you all for being here. Thanks to Aurora, Simon, Erica, and Parry Aftab. We'll be right back.
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