April 3rd Logs

Monday, April 3rd, 2017
12:04 AM <@Kirzi> A11, same dude ^
12:04 AM <@Kirzi> Spam tag
12:04 AM <@AEleven> -_-
12:05 AM <@AEleven> I'm just going to temp him for like a day
12:05 AM <@AEleven> pretty obvious he has no idea where his stuff came from
12:05 AM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't temp, we usually don't for that
12:05 AM <@Kirzi> I'd just get onto him and tell him not to offer anything from trades
12:06 AM <@AEleven> from trades?
12:06 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade or offer Pokémon through PMs." (on comment by /u/raymaninho, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5exo2b/lf_na_arceus_code_volcanion_code_ft_na_genesect/dafzhex )
12:06 AM <@Kirzi> As in link trades
12:06 AM <@norman250> r
12:06 AM <@Kirzi> Which pretty much everything is, apparently
12:06 AM <@Kirzi> Except the worthless normal legendaries
12:07 AM <@AEleven> ah true, I interpreted his initial response as from people IRL but that's way more likely
12:07 AM <@Kirzi> I assumed he just named the OTs
12:08 AM <@AEleven> yeah that's probably right
12:08 AM <@Kirzi> Also the initial thread says Yveltal is from mystery gift
12:08 AM <@Kirzi> Which I guess is technically accurate
12:08 AM <@Kirzi> But it's different than his latest story
12:09 AM <@AEleven> well, the origin on the summary screen probably says mystery gift
12:09 AM <@AEleven> aka he did get it from a trade
12:09 AM <@norman250> Not necessarily malicious, he could just have been saying that its an event pokemon, not a non-event shiny
12:09 AM <@Kirzi> Yea, it's just weird
12:10 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/SnakesNSerpents, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/631n1q/ft_gen_45_rng_shiny_legends_and_comp_shinies_lf/dfra7ge )
12:11 AM <@norman250> r
12:15 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634iwx/lf_certain_events_and_event_offers_ft_my_ft_stuff/ by /u/amoran5156 breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/632ss5/lf_certain_events_and_event_offers_ft_my_ft_stuff/ )
12:29 AM <@norman250> .ban
12:29 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/mod/banuser
12:29 AM <@norman250> Before I do so, is there any reason why we'd shadowban versus regular ban junebugvgc's alt?
12:29 AM <@norman250> They don't seem to be a problem alt creator (at least yet)
12:29 AM <@iama> you're faster than I am haha
12:29 AM <@iama> .modmail junebugvgc
12:29 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/search/modmail/junebugvgc
12:31 AM <@norman250> I'll just regular
12:31 AM ⇐ @sheldrob quit (Sheldrob@Likes.to.shank) Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
12:32 AM <@iama> yeah seems fine
12:34 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/xXL0L1L0V3RXx, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634lk8/lf_events_i_am_interested_ft_corozard_codedonachu/dfrb8oq )
12:34 AM <@norman250> looks like SP got it?
12:35 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I can get it, or someone can. Doesn't matter to me. Just wanted to make sure it was removed quickly as they're new users on both ends.
12:36 AM <@norman250> .shrug
12:36 AM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:36 AM <@iama> did your guy ever reply with more info SP
12:36 AM <@norman250> I can grab it if you want, just didn't see an r so I wanted to clarify with you
12:38 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Ah, I replied.
12:38 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not be rude." (on comment by /u/Ephemeral_Being, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5wntqp/ft_gen6_wifi_events_lf_comp_custom_gen6_gen7/dfnx3d0 )
12:38 AM <@SnowPhoenix> iama: Nope, no edit.
12:38 AM <@iama> welp
12:39 AM <@iama> he probably thinks its resolved then
12:39 AM <@norman250> I'm actually inclined to a that one.
12:39 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I still left his comment in the removed state. Shall I pursue it, or shall we just forget it and apply more pressure if he tries the same shit again?
12:40 AM <@Kirzi> If we're talking Donation Pika guy, I'd press for the info
12:40 AM <@iama> ^
12:40 AM <@norman250> Anyone else have thoughts on that last report? Its a dick move, but not mod-comment worthy imho.
12:40 AM <@iama> as for EB I'd just ignore
12:40 AM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't care if he wasn't probably lying abot it
12:40 AM <@Kirzi> Yea, don't think we can do anything about EB
12:40 AM <@iama> not worth the bother, he's already been called out by merry
12:40 AM <@norman250> 👍
12:41 AM <@iama> he can just suffer the consequences when nobody wants to trade with him
12:42 AM <@iama> but yeah like I said donation pika guy probably thinks he resolved it by saying he would
12:42 AM <@iama> a lot of people are just like "ok I'll do that next time", this kinda looks like it
12:43 AM <@SnowPhoenix> http://i.imgur.com/LeuJTlI.png
12:43 AM <@iama> 👍
12:44 AM <@SnowPhoenix> iama: Yeah, I know. We have something to cite regardless if he tries the bullshit again, so it was just a question of whether to bother trying to nail him here or not.
12:44 AM <@iama> I think your comment is good
12:45 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Posted it.
12:50 AM <@iama> o7
12:53 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Hm. Is this one a known alt of someone? Can't seem to find the trade by Ctrl+F on their profile: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634lk8/lf_events_i_am_interested_ft_corozard_codedonachu/dfrb8oq/
12:53 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Might've happened in someone else's topic, but hard to say.
12:55 AM <@norman250> Not that I'm aware of
12:56 AM <@norman250> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62r09o/daily_redistribution_thread/dfpqcha/
12:56 AM <@norman250> SP
12:56 AM <@norman250> Looks like they benefited from our communism yesterday
12:56 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Aaaah, arigatou!
12:58 AM <@norman250> De nada
1:00 AM <@SnowPhoenix> "I deleted the comment"
1:00 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Shall I just call him out on it and warn him not to try bullshitting again?
1:03 AM <@Kirzi> I'd just insist on the info anyway
1:05 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I could go with this, I guess. http://i.imgur.com/VbmlVNV.png
1:05 AM <@Kirzi> Haha
1:05 AM <@Kirzi> I'd drop the first part personally
1:06 AM <@norman250> ^
1:06 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Mmm, it's there to make it clear why I'm pursuing it. If I take that out, it kinda seems like I'm doing it for no good reason unless someone can think of a suitable replacement.
1:07 AM <@SnowPhoenix> It's pretty clear that the end point is to flat out call him out on the situation anyway, so I'm not sure if a hint that we know something's up is such a big deal.
1:08 AM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't say that, I doubt he suspects we know anything
1:08 AM <@norman250> Hmm, I suppose that's fair.
1:08 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Well, what's your end-game goal with this questioning session then, Kirzi?
1:08 AM <@SnowPhoenix> My endgame is basically "Yo, it really looks like you're trying to wiggle your way out of a lie. Don't try it again."
1:09 AM <@Kirzi> Essentially the same thing, except... hm how do I put it
1:09 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I plan on linking him the Pikachu I think he's referring to at the end, unless you have other ideas.
1:09 AM <@Kirzi> I want to get his explanation for it, basically
1:09 AM <@Kirzi> Before we call him out
1:10 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Well, that lines does essentially ask for an explanation.
1:10 AM <@Kirzi> If you want, I can take over, I know you don't like this stuff
1:10 AM <@SnowPhoenix> s/lines/line/
1:10 AM <@Kirzi> Yea, the second part is good, just the first part makes it too obvious I think
1:10 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I don't, but I want a better idea of what your plan is.
1:10 AM <@Kirzi> Essentially
1:10 AM <@Kirzi> "Give info"
1:10 AM <@SnowPhoenix> But if we're looking for an explanation, why shouldn't it be obvious?
1:11 AM <@Kirzi> Then see what he says. Whether he says he's getting one from pandawhatever, or if he continues to dodge it, or I don't really know what his plan is honestly
1:11 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Are you trying to get him to continue in the lie so we can ban him? We don't really have any strong evidence it's the same Pika, just circumstantial with it being stated as "HP Ice"
1:11 AM <@Kirzi> I don't think that it should be obvious that we're onto him for lying
1:12 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Well, how about if I delete the "perhaps" so the hinting is a bit less strong?
1:12 AM <@Kirzi> I'd rather have him think that we're only insisting on it for the sake of not letting him get away with violating the rules
1:12 AM <@Kirzi> Sure
1:13 AM <@Kirzi> And no, I don't think a ban perhaps, but given he's dishonest, it could be useful info for him trying to pull something in the future
1:13 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Posted.
1:13 AM <@Kirzi> And I also wouldn't be against a temp here, potentially
1:13 AM <@Kirzi> I just think in cases like these where we're pretty confident he's dishonest, it's worth trying to get as much info as we reasonably can
1:14 AM <@Kirzi> Basically I want to find out if he's an idiot, or if there's something more
1:15 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I'm just trying to balance people knowing we have reasons for our insistence on this sort of info, versus seeming like we do it just because, in contrast to well, not really sure what kind of info you're trying to gain here. He already (probably) lied. If he confesses, his credibility is still shot.
1:15 AM <@Kirzi> So we can more accurately judge the risk
1:15 AM <@SnowPhoenix> There's no way I can call that being an idiot.
1:15 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634sgr/lf_dragon_scale_item_ft_any_item_listed/ by /u/allie_pocket breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6348fu/ft_breedject_gulpins_mimikyus_nicknamed/ )
1:15 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Either he's thinking about getting a second HP Ice Charity Pikachu, or he's just a liar.
1:15 AM <@Kirzi> We'll wind up calling him out anyway, so anyone else watching will realize why we insisted
1:16 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I'd rather make his noncomplaince look unreasonable in the meantime. :P
1:16 AM <@Kirzi> Hehe
1:19 AM <@SnowPhoenix> But yeah, like I said, there's no way I'd consider this a mistake or merely a consequence of idiocy at this point. Unless he really is considering getting a second HP Ice Pikachu, he deliberately tried to evade posting rule-required info.
1:19 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Whether that's because he had something to hide, or just out of spite, it's still a malicious action against the working order of the subreddit.
1:20 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade or offer Pokémon through PMs." (on comment by /u/GundamKyriosX, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634pn2/gundams_love_potion_9_giveaway/dfrcqf1 )
1:20 AM <@norman250> r
1:20 AM <@Kirzi> Yea I agree
1:20 AM <@iama> gotta make sure though
1:21 AM <@iama> since if he is keeping that first one and planning to get another
1:21 AM <@Kirzi> I just mean, by "idiot", it could have "just" been a lapse in judgement where he was lazy and decided to lie and then realized that wasn't going to work
1:21 AM <@iama> sidenote if that actually is the same one idgi. this is just like that person who got a shiny houndour on the sub and tried to say they got it from a friend
1:21 AM <@iama> weirdest ban ever
1:21 AM <@Kirzi> People be dumb
1:22 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Kirzi: Honestly, I consider that the more likely scenario unless he cloned the Pika or something, but I unfortunately don't think we're going to be able to discern that until two get traded.
1:23 AM <@Kirzi> Also what's idgi
1:23 AM <@SnowPhoenix> "I don't get it"?
1:23 AM <@iama> i dont get it
1:23 AM <@Kirzi> Ah
1:23 AM <@SnowPhoenix> \o/ I was right.
1:23 AM <@iama> o/
1:23 AM <@SnowPhoenix> \o
1:23 AM <+Porygon-Bot> iama o/\o SnowPhoenix
1:23 AM <@Kirzi> Damn kids with your newfangled text speak
1:23 AM <@norman250> that's not an uncommon acronym.
1:24 AM <@SnowPhoenix> It was still a guess on my end.
1:24 AM <@Kirzi> I link idgaf
1:24 AM <@Kirzi> know*
1:24 AM <@SnowPhoenix> What's that one I use that it seemed like no one knew? afaik?
1:24 AM <@Kirzi> So I thought it was something like that
1:24 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Or was it something slightly rarer.
1:25 AM <@norman250> No one knew afaik?
1:25 AM <@iama> as far as i know, that wasnt it SnowPhoenix
1:25 AM <@iama> :p
1:25 AM <@SnowPhoenix> iama: Clever.
1:25 AM <@iama> \o/
1:25 AM <@norman250> God damn.
1:25 AM <@norman250> My heart just swelled at that pun, sir.
1:25 AM <@norman250> Wait, is that considered a pun? Or just general word play?
1:25 AM <@iama> I didnt even think it was a good one but thanks
1:25 AM <@iama> I'd say the latter
1:27 AM <@SnowPhoenix> norman250: "Any discussion of trades, items, okemon, or otherwise must take place publicly. Please remove references to requesting users to pm you in this comment and your original post."
1:27 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Is that a personal macro or something you typed manually?
1:27 AM <@norman250> okemon are my favorite kind of creature.
1:27 AM <@norman250> Manual.
1:27 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Ah, okay.
1:27 AM <@norman250> Thanks for the heads up
1:27 AM <@SnowPhoenix> No problem.
1:35 AM <@SnowPhoenix> http://i.imgur.com/JVUwsKQ.png
1:35 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Well, at least he confesses to having the other Pikachu.
1:38 AM <@Kirzi> That second line
1:38 AM <@Kirzi> I guess just let him go and tell him not to offer anything he doesn't have
1:38 AM <@Kirzi> Or something
1:40 AM <@iama> lol libertarianism
1:42 AM <@Kirzi> He just made himself look like an idiot
1:42 AM <@Kirzi> Seriously why bring that up
1:46 AM <@SnowPhoenix> http://i.imgur.com/Ou4kKOm.png
1:47 AM <@SnowPhoenix> It's funny. I do agree with minimal regulations, but if I can provide information to prove the authenticity of my claims, I am usually more than happy to do so.
1:48 AM <@norman250> Alright, I'm gonna finish dealing with the last people I'm dealing with and then head off for the night. Ta ta for now.
1:48 AM <@Kirzi> Night night
1:49 AM <@Kirzi> Minimal regulations is good
1:49 AM <@Kirzi> What counts as "minimal" is up for debate, though
1:49 AM ⇐ @iama quit (uid124337@no.pun.allowed)
1:49 AM <@Kirzi> I used to call myself libertarian but eh, I'm just me now I guess
1:50 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Heh.
1:50 AM <@SnowPhoenix> No need to assume all libertarians are uncooperative douchebags like this guy.
1:50 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Anyway, any objections to my comment?
1:51 AM <@SnowPhoenix> It's just like "If you people don't like it here, you seriously are free to go somewhere else. Really. We don't mind."
1:51 AM <@SnowPhoenix> (At least I don't.)
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> Nah, go for it
1:54 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Posted.
1:54 AM <@Kirzi> And no, I don't assume libertarians are jerks, that guy just amuses me for pointing it out, like "look at me I'm intelligent and using big words"
1:55 AM <@Kirzi> What I call myself only has to do with shifting views haha
2:52 AM <@SnowPhoenix> That's cool. Just wasn't sure if it was significantly related or not.
2:52 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Also, I notice we had no daily thread for SVeX on 4/1. Oops.
2:54 AM <@Kirzi> Oops
3:06 AM <~TSAR> oops
3:16 AM <@Kirzi> April Fools, SVex
3:16 AM <@Kirzi> Our prank to you is no checking thread
3:35 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/635bbn/three_from_shiny_charm/ by /u/Slypes breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6342hc/need_dex_entry_for_shiny_charm/ )
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4:30 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/635hzd/lf_sliggoo_silvally_vanillish_for_shiny_charm/ by /u/Slypes breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6342hc/need_dex_entry_for_shiny_charm/ )
5:10 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/Nadi99, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/635b22/ft_early_adopter_munchlax_charity_pikachu_codes/dfrhzuz )
5:30 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Replied.
5:52 AM nexus.hub.us.synirc.net ⇎ sirocco.tx.us.synirc.net ⇐ @AEleven and @amab quit  ↔ @DoubleFried (opped), @UNAB (opped) and @Kirzi (opped) nipped out
7:50 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "<no reason>" (on submission by /u/kenneth52045, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634lk8/lf_events_i_am_interested_ft_corozard_codedonachu/ )
7:51 AM <@Volcano> a its just codes
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8:31 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/Mnovdef, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/636b8u/ft_a_few_legends_lf_good_natured_shinies/dfrmycw )
8:33 AM <@DoubleFried> r
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8:35 AM <@DoubleFried> yay im going to threaten someone with a ban
8:36 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Dumbass deserves it.
8:36 AM <@iama> morning 2fry and SP
8:36 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Morning.
8:36 AM <@iama> fill me in
8:36 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Exhibit 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5yn8q3/looking_for_31313131310_pokemons_ft_spredsheet/derkv7p/
8:36 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Exhibit 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/636b8u/ft_a_few_legends_lf_good_natured_shinies/dfrmycw
8:36 AM <@DoubleFried> repeat offender that's offering something that he has been explicitly told not to offer in the past
8:36 AM <@DoubleFried> without proper info
8:36 AM — @iama gets popcorn
8:37 AM <@iama> lol that guy
8:37 AM <@iama> "can I list received from wt"
8:38 AM <@iama> oh yeah gotta be the same poke
8:38 AM <@iama> that could be a temp right there tbh
8:42 AM <@iama> yeah just temp imo
8:44 AM <@DoubleFried> with the past rule 3 warnings
8:45 AM <@DoubleFried> twice over the same pokemon
8:45 AM <@DoubleFried> it's not unreasonable, though i think a harsh warning and temp on next offense is fine too
8:45 AM <@DoubleFried> what do you think sp
8:47 AM <@iama> I feel like offering a Pokemon from wt after being told not to is generally temp worthy but let's see
8:47 AM <@SnowPhoenix> I'm fine with either.
8:47 AM <@iama> .tag /u/Mnovdef
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/Mnovdef on /r/pokemontrades:
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "Thread asking question" (20 days ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/5zc3p3 , colored yellow)
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "WT shiny" (23 days ago, by DoubleFried, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5yn8q3/-/desgx1b , colored yellow)
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (2) "Shiny Dhelmise - missing info" (24 days ago, by SnowPhoenix9999, on link reddit.com/5yn8q3 , colored yellow)
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (3) "6 hour rule" (a month ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5y7nll , colored yellow)
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (4) "Missing info" (a month ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/5y6kip , colored yellow)
8:47 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (5) "missing info" (a month ago, by norman250, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5wt01e/-/ded3r3u , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <@iama> I'm fine with either but would lean temp
8:48 AM <@iama> Your call DF
8:48 AM <@DoubleFried> im warning
8:49 AM <@iama> aight
9:02 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Mnovdef, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62bxr4/lf_damp_wooperquagsire_ft_spreadsheet_ask/ )
9:03 AM <@iama> lol
9:03 AM <@DoubleFried> 4 days old
9:03 AM <@iama> just gonna remove
9:03 AM <@DoubleFried> who the fuck is reportign that
9:03 AM <@DoubleFried> r anyway
9:04 AM <@iama> or you can grab it
9:04 AM <@DoubleFried> 2slow
9:04 AM <@iama> ok 2fly
9:27 AM <@DoubleFried> it was the same dhelmise again (or a new WT dhelmise) and the pheromosa was WT too
9:28 AM <@DoubleFried> told him to fucktold him to fucking read the rules and more rule breaking can get him banned
9:31 AM <@iama> idiot
10:45 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "The user is constantly downvoting me because he was late to his own trade and is now unhappy. RUDE." (on submission by /u/LittleRedWings, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61hz1h/lf_lucky_egg_x2_ft_destiny_knot_x2_various_5ivs/ )
10:47 AM <@iama> a
10:47 AM <@iama> cant do shit without proof
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11:19 AM <@iama> .tag /u/aceattorney524
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/AceAttorney524 on /r/pokemontrades:
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "ignoring https://www.reddit.com/r/SVExchange/comments/5i70za/3899/dcvf062/?context=3" (2 months ago, by iama, colored red)
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "Bulbasaur and Mewtwo he offered in this post are listed as legit (http://i.imgur.com/PmzBYQq.png) when they were previously listed as "likely legit" and "unknown from WT" in his original spreadsheet from the first tag https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YZ0Hk4dXB1sq0Cu85lAQo-KOsp9tOYcU9A7LQwavTyg/edit#gid=0" (3 months ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/5nlxxt , colored pink)
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (2) "Various hacks and clones again; shinies and events no info -- copy of spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wrB5mpBX8IpEz-jACjh_ZrGRBfd0EIHhbvm8ab1Vnso/edit?usp=sharing" (3 months ago, by willster191, on link reddit.com/5nlxxt , colored red)
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (3) "Shinies no info" (3 months ago, by willster191, on link reddit.com/5nlxxt , colored yellow)
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (4) "Traded movie Diancie of unknown origin. Feel free to temp on next offense" (5 months ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5b5zc9/-/d9sr5lw , colored red)
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (5) "1 archived notes" (5 months ago, by SnowPhoenix9999, colored yellow)
11:39 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/BenedictRulerOfEggs, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634yvk/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_03_april_2017/dfrve0d )
11:40 AM <@Kirzi> a
11:40 AM <@DoubleFried> a
11:40 AM <@iama> a
11:40 AM <@DoubleFried> r
11:40 AM <@Kirzi> æ
11:41 AM <@iama> r
11:41 AM <@iama> a
11:41 AM <@DoubleFried> b
11:41 AM <@Kirzi> Racists
11:41 AM <@iama> lol http://i.imgur.com/8OJHyf8.png
11:42 AM <@DoubleFried> dang kirzi was first :9
11:42 AM <@Kirzi> LF medal
11:42 AM <@DoubleFried> you can bite my shiny golden ass
11:42 AM <@iama> DoubleFried: https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.120448342.1033/flat,800x800,075,f.u1.jpg
11:43 AM <@Kirzi> If you have a shiny golden ass, you might want to get that checked out
11:45 AM <@DoubleFried> people check out my ass all the time ;)
11:48 AM <@iama> that must be an awfully well-bred donkey you have
11:48 AM <@Kirzi> Suuure
12:05 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/akaliiswaifu, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/637dzf/ʖ_卐卐卐卐_dont_mind_me_just_taking_my_rpokemontrades/dfrwry5 )
12:06 PM <@iama> a
12:12 PM <@DoubleFried> "Ok. What if I specify in my spreadsheet that those two pokemons are not for trade? Is that allowed? I would like to keep only one spreadsheet" - that dhelmise guy
12:13 PM <@DoubleFried> so I quote the part of the rules that says that's not okay
12:13 PM <@DoubleFried> go to his spreadsheet to see what he's done
12:13 PM <@DoubleFried> and witness him editing in "Not for trade" notes
12:14 PM — @Kirzi facepalms
12:14 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/joelrjohnson, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/637dzf/ʖ_卐卐卐卐_dont_mind_me_just_taking_my_rpokemontrades/dfrx84i )
12:15 PM <@iama> a
12:15 PM <@iama> Raia: ^
12:17 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Are we really okay with that?" (on submission by /u/go4ino, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/637dzf/ʖ_卐卐卐卐_dont_mind_me_just_taking_my_rpokemontrades/ )
12:18 PM <@iama> yes
12:18 PM <@iama> a
12:19 PM <@iama> also nice reply df
12:25 PM <@DoubleFried> how does our watchlist thingie work
12:25 PM <@DoubleFried> because seeing him edit his spreadsheet, we're temping him the next time he posts on the sub
12:26 PM <@Kirzi> The automod watchlist is more for people we don't expect to post too soon because they're avoiding us
12:26 PM <@Kirzi> Or something
12:26 PM <@DoubleFried> aight
12:26 PM <@Kirzi> I'd just refresh his profile
12:26 PM <@Kirzi> Or use reddit's friend list feature
12:26 PM <@DoubleFried> sure
12:26 PM <@Kirzi> I have a few people on there (none of which are friends)
12:27 PM <@iama> the watchlist is easy, just stick their name in automod right at the top
12:27 PM <@iama> it's great
12:27 PM <@iama> but for this yea Kirzi is right just tag
12:28 PM <@iama> Otherwise we'll get notifications every time he comments
12:28 PM <@DoubleFried> im just saying his next comment will very likely be temp worthy
12:29 PM <@iama> lmao  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Bgf0oCo7/Screenshot_20170403-122833.png
12:29 PM <@DoubleFried> poe's law in action
12:30 PM <@Kirzi> Hahaha
12:32 PM <@iama> I screenshotted because it was immediately deleted
12:45 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/637vwm/lf_lansat_berry_ft_whaddya_need/
12:45 PM <@Kirzi> inb4 ban
12:45 PM <@Kirzi> (see username)
12:57 PM <@Kirzi> .tell amab Poke
12:57 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Saved message for amab. Beep boop.
1:05 PM <@iama> .tell amab Mon
1:05 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Saved message for amab. Beep boop.
1:06 PM <@DoubleFried> .tell amab Calamari
1:06 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Saved message for amab. Beep boop.
1:07 PM <@iama> wait, jasmineofwinter is a shiny charm? man
1:55 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy." (on comment by /u/dash962, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/637ktv/lf_diancieevents_i_interested_ftkoko_codecorozard/dfs0jp3 )
2:03 PM <@sheldrob> .tag /u/dash962
2:03 PM <+Porygon-Bot> No notes found for /u/dash962 on /r/pokemontrades.
2:05 PM <@sheldrob> a
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2:55 PM <@DoubleFried> also
2:55 PM <@DoubleFried> last evening Xamarqand PM'd me with this https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xkS1oXjY/sorry
2:55 PM <@DoubleFried> apparently he's not completely sure anymore some past gen event he's traded in the past were actually selfobtained
3:00 PM <@DoubleFried> we talked a bit more but the paste pretty much contains all of it
3:00 PM <@DoubleFried> i kinda gtg now
3:01 PM <@Volcano> -___-
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3:04 PM <+Porygon-Bot> amab: Poke (from Kirzi, 2017-04-03 10:57:39 UTC-0600)
3:04 PM <+Porygon-Bot> amab: Mon (from iama, 2017-04-03 11:05:58 UTC-0600)
3:04 PM <+Porygon-Bot> amab: Calamari (from DoubleFried, 2017-04-03 11:07:01 UTC-0600)
3:05 PM <@amab> ,_,
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3:10 PM <@Kirzi> He seems pretty guilty for someone who claims he's 99.99999% sure he did nothing wrong
3:10 PM <@Kirzi> Hi amab
3:10 PM <@amab> whatsup
3:11 PM <@Volcano> i wonder if he read my post the other day in the DDT and just felt like reporting himself
3:12 PM <@Kirzi> RE legality wiki stuff, want to copy your old stuff to a new wiki page? "oldlegality" or something
3:12 PM <@Kirzi> I didn't want to since it's your stuff
3:13 PM <@amab> ah yeah shit i need to review that
3:13 PM <@amab> sure if you move it thats fine. I need to re-read it and edit
3:14 PM <@amab> i mean i can copy it to a doc file and just keep it until we want to merge as well
3:14 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/pandaglassjaw, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/638dve/ft_1_tapu_kokodonationchu_codeeventsshiniesrngd/dfs6gda )
3:15 PM <@amab> ok i have it copied and saved
3:15 PM <@amab> do whatever gotta go to class
3:15 PM <@Kirzi> I was just reading over it and figured we might want to keep it around in some form in the wiki, just in case
3:16 PM <@Kirzi> Okay we talk later then haha
3:17 PM <@Kirzi> I just wanted you to have your name on the other wiki page to properly credit it, basically
3:17 PM <@Kirzi> Would feel weird otherwise
3:39 PM <@amab> you can credit me or not, we could just have a seperate wiki or a RNG section
3:40 PM <@amab> just have a section thats more streamlined
3:40 PM <@amab> with links to every type of RNG
3:40 PM <@amab> so you can jsut quickly go to what you want
3:57 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/sebnl123, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/636b8u/ft_a_few_legends_lf_good_natured_shinies/dfs7wtg )
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4:15 PM <~TSAR> r
4:32 PM <~TSAR> http://i.imgur.com/LOQdKk9.png
4:32 PM <~TSAR> halp
4:33 PM <@amab> no tag for you
4:40 PM <@Kirzi> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
4:42 PM <~TSAR> it's working again, reddit issues it seems
4:43 PM <@amab> Kirzi: you seen it crowd
4:43 PM <@amab> its gud shit
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4:52 PM <@Kirzi> I have
4:53 PM <@Kirzi> And I agree
4:59 PM <@DoubleFried> so Xamarqand
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4:59 PM <@DoubleFried> i do agree like it seems like he's a bit overly worried yeh
5:00 PM <@DoubleFried> but it also might be him being nervous about the possibility
5:00 PM <@DoubleFried> i think we should probably check the selfobtained past gen stuff he's traded to see if there's something weird about it
5:01 PM <@Kirzi> I mean I just think it's suspicious
5:02 PM <@Kirzi> Like he traded stuff he knows was bad, but didn't think we'd find out
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5:02 PM <@Kirzi> Then realized we're pretty good at finding things out
5:02 PM <@Kirzi> So he decided to cover his ass by telling us that he wasn't sure
5:02 PM <@Kirzi> Whether that's due purely due to fear of being found out, or guilt, dunno
5:03 PM <@Kirzi> Or you could be right and he's just paranoid about a mixup
5:05 PM <@sheldrob> TEA time?
5:09 PM <@DoubleFried> im contacting the people he traded stuff to
5:10 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5vkmqr/ft_events_trophy_legendaries_lf_events_custom/
5:10 PM <@sheldrob> I do agree with you DF. It needs further checking.
5:10 PM <@Kirzi> The OP of that thread is interesting
5:11 PM <@DoubleFried> oh awesome
5:11 PM <@Kirzi> I don't have any proof as I've long since restarted my Soul Silver save that I redeemed those Pokémon on. You can only trust my word here and I understand if that puts you off and makes you not want to trade for them, I once had an AR but didn't know how to use it except for Rare Candies and Force Shiny code.
5:11 PM <@sheldrob> He edited his post?
5:11 PM <@DoubleFried> 6 days ago though
5:11 PM <@DoubleFried> oh and it does list the people he's traded the events not on flairhq to
5:11 PM <@DoubleFried> awesome
5:12 PM <@Kirzi> Consistent with what he says now, but also weird that the possibility wouldn't have occured before then, though I guess the friend could have occured to him more recently
5:12 PM <@Kirzi> If you check the cache, that part of the thread is the same
5:12 PM <@Kirzi> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fpokemontrades%2Fcomments%2F5vkmqr%2Fft_events_trophy_legendaries_lf_events_custom%2F&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fpokemontrades%2Fcomments%2F5vkmqr%2Fft_events_trophy_legendaries_lf_events_custom%2F&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.1604j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UT
5:12 PM <@Kirzi> F-8
5:17 PM <@DoubleFried> okay everyone is contacted
5:18 PM <@Kirzi> Danke
5:18 PM <@Kirzi> Might want to modmail the original PM message too
5:21 PM <@Kirzi> Unrelated: We should update the error messages for SM
5:22 PM <@DoubleFried> https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/4891d9e3dd607e3f9b098b06afa6e653
5:24 PM <@DoubleFried> does one of you have a legit suicune i can compare against
5:24 PM <@DoubleFried> hm
5:24 PM <@DoubleFried> it is a somewhat widespread clone it seems like?
5:24 PM <@Kirzi> Static PID
5:25 PM <@DoubleFried> static PID so somewhat expected yeh
5:25 PM <@DoubleFried> but i'd expect less hits
5:25 PM <@Kirzi> Porybox doesn't use IVs to check for clones
5:25 PM <@DoubleFried> ah
5:25 PM <@Kirzi> So that's literally every Suicune of that event
5:26 PM <@DoubleFried> yeh okay then
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5:40 PM <@DoubleFried> pokemon supposedly obtained in SS having origin game HG, expected behaviour?
5:40 PM <@Kirzi> Yes
5:40 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/pipowwe, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/639uk9/lf_volcanion/ )
5:40 PM <@DoubleFried> aight
5:47 PM <@DoubleFried> https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/840f758a2fa4f4b3b29ffb12af35dd73
5:47 PM <@DoubleFried> everything about the pokemon seems to check out
6:00 PM <@DoubleFried> https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/50cef94744a6933d1250412bb74759e7
6:01 PM <@DoubleFried> having some issues trying to check IV legality with rng reporter
6:02 PM <@DoubleFried> either im doing something wrong or every 4th gen event ive tried is illegal
6:04 PM <@Kirzi> I'm pretty sure wondercard events are generated differently
6:05 PM <@DoubleFried> it does have a wc method option
6:05 PM <@DoubleFried> but that one doesn't work either
6:06 PM <@Kirzi> Pichu checks out
6:06 PM <@Kirzi> Are you checking nature?
6:06 PM <@Kirzi> Because you have to ignore that for gen 4 WCs
6:06 PM <@Kirzi> It's random
6:07 PM <@Kirzi> Jirachi works too
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6:10 PM <@DoubleFried> im not
6:10 PM <@DoubleFried> whateve
6:11 PM <@Kirzi> http://i.imgur.com/ySZExqN.png
6:11 PM <@DoubleFried> oh
6:12 PM <@DoubleFried> my delay is much lower
6:12 PM <@DoubleFried> 600-610
6:12 PM <@Kirzi> Well that's why haha
6:12 PM <@DoubleFried> yeh cranking that up solved it
6:12 PM <@Kirzi> Why's it set to such a narrow range
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> idk
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> i didnt touch it
6:13 PM <@Kirzi> Weird
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> or if i did it was a long time ago
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> so pichu says diamond
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> that can be pearl too?
6:13 PM <@Kirzi> Yea
6:13 PM <@DoubleFried> aight thanks
6:14 PM <@Kirzi> Just ignore met game for gen 4 events
6:14 PM <@DoubleFried> got it
6:14 PM <@DoubleFried> not even accurate for the DP, Pt, HGSS range?
6:15 PM <@Kirzi> Nope
6:15 PM <@DoubleFried> dang
6:20 PM <@doritoburrrito> Got this as a reply from a user I was dealing with a while ago: "I know this isn't related but I recently bought a copy of Pokemon white which has the Liberty pass victini on it. What sort of verification pictures should I take before I restart my game? I have a pic of the Pokemon and its stats and other page as well as the wonder card."    I'm going to tell
6:20 PM <@doritoburrrito> them that since the game is second-hand, he can't know if the WC for Victini has been injected and that it can't be traded unfortunately. Is that right?
6:21 PM <@doritoburrrito> or even if Victini had been hacked in
6:25 PM <@Kirzi> Correct
6:25 PM <@doritoburrrito> 👍
6:27 PM <@DoubleFried> so far all his pokemon seem to check out
6:28 PM <@DoubleFried> + 3 of them were wifi events
6:29 PM <@Kirzi> I'd still support blocking them and letting him organize the tradebacks
6:29 PM <@Kirzi> Uncertain legitimacy etc
6:34 PM <@Kirzi> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MmdxMKyFRVHpu_Tx7a8Wq-NFZRqMyUmqw9KK9dZeGbc/edit?usp=sharing
6:35 PM <@Kirzi> Progress on code guide. TLDR there's like twice the amount of errors we have on our chart so it's like ??
6:39 PM <@Kirzi> Semi related
6:40 PM <@Kirzi> I suggest blocking trades on event codes that are supposed to be expired
6:40 PM <@doritoburrrito> like the NA Genesect ones? I support that since the other trader could be SOL
6:40 PM <@doritoburrrito> it's a gamble if/when it will expire
6:40 PM <@Kirzi> Redeem your own, or look for a redeemer, sure
6:41 PM <@Kirzi> But no trading
6:41 PM <@doritoburrrito> yep, agreed
6:41 PM <@DoubleFried> idk
6:42 PM <@doritoburrrito> also, DF: I found this while browsing event tags: Touched Jolly Michina Arceus
6:42 PM <@doritoburrrito> Xamarquand>Beardandfeared>Me. Looks likes expiredjellybean has that Arceus now and not beard
6:42 PM <@DoubleFried> id feel pretty screwed if i wanted a code that's still working and couldnt trade for it
6:42 PM <@DoubleFried> it can be checked by the person offering it right
6:42 PM <@doritoburrrito> thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/631bu7/lfshaymin_and_eevee_eventsftrngs_and_stuff/
6:42 PM <@DoubleFried> awesome, thanks burrrito
6:43 PM <@Kirzi> Can be, but that doesn't mean people will
6:43 PM <@Kirzi> If you really wanted the event, you shouldn't have waited till after it expires
6:43 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Inactive hatching thread" (on submission by /u/eRadss, https://www.reddit.com/r/SVExchange/comments/5jvgk6/3162/ )
6:44 PM <@doritoburrrito> jfc how many times do I have to tell this person that the Victini can't be traded: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61mb6y/lf_offers_need_to_complete_pokedex_ft_some/dfsfyik/
6:46 PM <@Kirzi> If he contacts the seller and confirms that the seller obtained it himself, and didn't hack, clone, or inject the wondercard, and modmails us with a screenshot of this, I'd allow it
6:46 PM <@Kirzi> (assuming it checks out)
6:48 PM <@doritoburrrito> how's this for a reply kirzi: How would you contact the original seller? Do you know this person? If you can contact the seller and confirm that the seller obtained it himself, and didn't hack, clone, or inject the wondercard, and then modmail us with a screenshot of this conversation, we can talk it over and discuss as a moderation team.
6:48 PM <@sheldrob> Seems far fetched imo. What if he lies?
6:48 PM <@Kirzi> That's why we have the screenshot
6:49 PM <@DoubleFried> https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/c1d25c93f82e56866174dafc95f24236 porybox of arceus from ejb
6:49 PM <@Kirzi> It doesn't seem too unreasonable for somebody selling a game to have had an event on it
6:49 PM <@Kirzi> That works, dorito
6:49 PM <@doritoburrrito> thanks
6:50 PM <@DoubleFried> ivs are legal
6:51 PM <@doritoburrrito> also, I've got the svex report above and closing now
6:52 PM <@Kirzi> Oh did you mean if ebay dude lies? I doubt he has incentive to, since the sale already happened
6:53 PM <@Kirzi> I guess it's plausible, but with that event specifically, I'm not too worried
6:53 PM <@Kirzi> If we were talking TRUs or something then I'd just block
6:53 PM <@DoubleFried> arceus does also check out as far as I can tell
6:53 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63aazs/lf_elekidelectabuzz_w_em_ice_punch_ft_see_inside/ by /u/FMRC93 breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6388bc/lf_help_to_evolve_my_scyther_into_scizor/ )
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6:54 PM <@DoubleFried> and xamarqand does say he very likely had an opportunity to be at a finnish distro
6:55 PM <@Kirzi> I'd still block/have him offer tradebacks
6:55 PM <@Kirzi> If he was uncertain enough to modmail, that's not good
6:57 PM <@DoubleFried> he says he's mostly worried because he doesn't have explicit memories of getting em
7:02 PM <@sheldrob> I'd support blocking since he cannot fully be certain of their legitimacy.
7:06 PM <@iama> either he's unsure and doing his due diligence, which is commendable imo, or he is suddenly getting worried and covering his tracks, which is the opposite
7:06 PM <@iama> we gotta figure out which
7:07 PM <@iama> block seems good
7:07 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63advb/giving_away_45_iv_dream_ball_aerodactyls_sport/ by /u/ErnestoBen breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63ad2g/giving_away_45_iv_dream_ball_aerodactyls_sport/ )
7:08 PM <@DoubleFried> im leaning towards the former
7:10 PM <@DoubleFried> but if you guys all wanna block, blocking is prob the way to go
7:12 PM <@Kirzi> DF, are you on this? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/639uk9/lf_volcanion/
7:13 PM <@DoubleFried> i saw it come by and removed the child comment but was still doing xamarqand's stuff
7:13 PM <@DoubleFried> i can grab it now
7:13 PM <@Kirzi> Alrighty
7:35 PM <@iama> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6375un/giveaway_gundams_love_potion_9/
7:35 PM <@iama> it is
7:35 PM <@iama> so
7:35 PM <@iama> obvious
7:36 PM <@iama> he is asking for upvotes
7:36 PM <@iama> .tag /u/GundamKyriosX
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/GundamKyriosX on /r/pokemontrades:
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "PM trading; being *incredibly* difficult." (17 hours ago, by norman250, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634pn2/-/dfrcqf1 , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "Deny involvement flair application. See https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/7reo5v" (a month ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5y8o3o/-/deof72d , colored blue)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (2) "Blatant flair grinding" (a month ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/5y8o3o , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (3) "advertising thread in DCTT" (a month ago, by iama, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5v36vo/-/ddziebn , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (4) "Asking for upvotes" (2 months ago, by Sheldrob, on link reddit.com/5tuwif , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (5) "6 hour rule" (2 months ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5t27ro , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (6) "6 hour rule" (2 months ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5s7xpa , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (7) "No info on event shiny gengar" (2 months ago, by Sheldrob, on link reddit.com/5s7nc1 , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (8) "6 hour rule" (3 months ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5m27ph , colored yellow)
7:36 PM <@DoubleFried> i missed it?
7:36 PM <@Kirzi> Do you mean vote manipulating?
7:37 PM <@iama> see his replies
7:37 PM <@iama>  " ^ V to spread love!"
7:37 PM <@norman250> Oh, that guy.
7:37 PM <@iama> I see he apparently gave you a hard time norman250
7:38 PM <@norman250> You would not believe.
7:38 PM <@Kirzi> And he's been warned about asking for upvotes before
7:38 PM <@iama> yep, tag 4
7:38 PM <@DoubleFried> ^ V?
7:38 PM <@DoubleFried> <_<
7:38 PM <@Kirzi> He deleted everything there
7:38 PM <@norman250> "If you're breeding and have BP items, pm me, I need help"
7:38 PM <@Kirzi> I don't suppose you got screencaps? I'm curious
7:39 PM <@norman250> "That's pm trading." "Not it isn't you idiot, I was just asking people to pm me so I could save their names for later trades and discuss potential trade situations with them!"
7:39 PM <@Kirzi> He called you an idiot?
7:39 PM <@iama> he's off to a really good start with redeeming himself for involvement flair lol
7:40 PM <@norman250> "... that's pm trading" "nu uh!" Basically that, repeat, rinse, etc. no screen caps unfortunately
7:40 PM <@norman250> Didn't think I'd need them
7:40 PM <@Kirzi> Nah you don't need them
7:40 PM <@Kirzi> I just wish I could have seen it haha
7:40 PM <@norman250> No, Kirzi, that was paraphrasing, but he did drop me a "you should learn the rules," line
7:40 PM <@Kirzi> I can see some bits through quotes at least
7:40 PM <@Kirzi> Fuck him then
7:40 PM <@Kirzi> No involvement for you ever
7:41 PM <@norman250> I was just flabbergasted. Like, he was literally describing pm trading in his effort to convince me it wasn't pm trading.
7:41 PM <@Kirzi> Ha
7:41 PM <@norman250> What part of "all aspects of trade negotiation must be public" was hard to understand?
7:42 PM <@iama> yeah, I vote to deny involvement forever next time he applies
7:43 PM <@norman250> He also yelled at a user because he assumed that user downvoted him, but later deleted the comment
7:43 PM <@iama> lol
7:43 PM <@norman250> He clearly cares more about karma the number than the concept
7:43 PM <@Kirzi> Damn
7:44 PM <@Kirzi> Between that and the vote manipulating, he's just a shitty person
7:44 PM <@Kirzi> Add it to the modmail?
7:44 PM <@norman250> Which part?
7:44 PM <@iama> .tag add --n "asking for upvotes again, trying to be sneaky about it" https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6375un/giveaway_gundams_love_potion_9/
7:44 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Successfully added note on /u/GundamKyriosX:
7:44 PM <+Porygon-Bot> "asking for upvotes again, trying to be sneaky about it" (a few seconds ago, by iama, on link reddit.com/6375un , colored yellow)
7:45 PM <@Kirzi> All of it
7:45 PM <@sheldrob> That guy's on my "friend" list haha. I knew he's trouble.
7:45 PM <@Kirzi> Being a dick to you, vote manipulating, and yelling at someone for downvoting
7:45 PM <@norman250> Okay, sure. It'll be for reference then. Like I said, I don't get caps of any of it.
7:45 PM <@DoubleFried> and the blatant flair grinding
8:00 PM <@iama> remember that downvoting report this morning?
8:00 PM <@Kirzi> Nope
8:01 PM <@DoubleFried> yes
8:01 PM <@norman250> There was a downvoting report?
8:01 PM <@DoubleFried> 16:45:43 <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "The user is constantly downvoting me because he was late to his own trade and is now unhappy. RUDE." (on submission by /u/LittleRedWings, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61hz1h/lf_lucky_egg_x2_ft_destiny_knot_x2_various_5ivs/ )
8:01 PM <@iama> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/t5YAPSda/Screenshot_20170403-200009.png
8:02 PM <@norman250> That was the thread!
8:02 PM <@DoubleFried> lmao
8:02 PM <@norman250> I was gonna comment on how he was being rude but he deleted
8:02 PM <@iama> also Kirzi I just cleared my file uploads so lmk if you need the Koko code again
8:02 PM <@iama> https://redd.it/61hz1h
8:02 PM <@norman250> He said something like "instead of downvoting me why don't you respond to your trades in a timely fashion, bro?"
8:03 PM <@iama> I can say something to him if you want norman250
8:03 PM <@norman250> What a child
8:03 PM <@DoubleFried> im def okay with indefinitely blocking him from involvement flair
8:03 PM <@DoubleFried> unless he does some serious personal improvement
8:03 PM <@Kirzi> Nah I saved it, but thanks iama
8:04 PM <@norman250> I'd just ignore that part Iama, he deleted his comment before the other user saw ( I only saw because I was on his overview when he posted it, due to his snafu with me last night) and if he wants to report it fine, but we can just ignore his reports.
8:04 PM <@iama> Also, one of my fellow mods informed me that they saw the reply you gave the OP - please keep in mind that rudeness like that won't be tolerated (especially when you have no proof it actually was the OP)
8:04 PM <@iama> It would be something like that, but I can let it go if you think it unnecessary
8:04 PM <@iama> Kirzi: awesome, just wanted to make sure
8:05 PM <@norman250> I don't have strong feelings either way, I just think it'll be more trouble then it's worth since he at least had the presence of mind to delete his rude comment.
8:05 PM <@iama> alright
8:05 PM <@Kirzi> Yea I'd drop it
8:06 PM <@iama> yeah true, he may have realized it was out of line himself
8:06 PM <@Kirzi> But still make a note that it happened
8:06 PM <@iama> mhm
8:06 PM <@norman250> Yeah, I'll do an add to the modmail when I get home in circa 20
8:06 PM <@iama> wanna tag on that link norman250?
8:06 PM <@iama> ah cool
8:08 PM <@iama> I wonder who is downvoting though https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6375un/giveaway_gundams_love_potion_9/dfskeax/?context=3
8:08 PM <@Kirzi> He's an idiot
8:08 PM <@Kirzi> Could be anyone
8:08 PM <@norman250> I wouldn't be surprised if it is that user
8:09 PM <@norman250> Or the community reporter who reported his post yesterday for pm trading
8:09 PM <@Kirzi> Seriously who fucking cares though
8:09 PM <@norman250> Yeah
8:10 PM <@Kirzi> I mean I get wanting upvotes on individual posts as positive feedback
8:10 PM <@Kirzi> But other than that, I don't get caring about votes at all
8:12 PM <@DoubleFried> >not even wanting to get into centuryclub
8:12 PM <@DoubleFried> im only 15% of the way there :(
8:13 PM <@iama> I'm like 75% there
8:13 PM <@iama> ha
8:13 PM <@DoubleFried> karmawhore
8:14 PM <@DoubleFried> also i checked you're not even halfway you lying douchebag
8:14 PM <@Kirzi> What's centuryclub, like
8:15 PM <@Kirzi> 100K karma?
8:15 PM <@Kirzi> Post or comment or both combined?
8:15 PM <@DoubleFried> 100k
8:15 PM <@DoubleFried> i think combined
8:15 PM <@DoubleFried> nope, not combined
8:15 PM <@iama> DoubleFried: I have another account with like 30k+ karma
8:16 PM <@DoubleFried> one of the two has to have hit 100k
8:16 PM <@DoubleFried> your main is at 44k comment karma
8:16 PM <@DoubleFried> so that's further along
8:16 PM <@Kirzi> I have 5.3K
8:17 PM <@Kirzi> Close enough, right
8:17 PM <@DoubleFried> iama: i hope you didnt pay $300 for it!!
8:17 PM <@norman250> Ah jeez, I'm under 1k on both fronts
8:17 PM <@norman250> And my account is four years old. I have no excuse.
8:17 PM <@iama> DoubleFried: wat
8:18 PM <@DoubleFried> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/16lpkb/reddit_whats_the_farthest_you_have_taken_it_to_in/c7x6k13/?context=3
8:18 PM <@iama> I was like "wtf does peeing on people have to do with century club"
8:18 PM <@iama> and then you linked that
8:18 PM <@iama> lol
8:21 PM <@iama> fuck that was four years ago
8:21 PM <@iama> Ive been here too long
8:23 PM <@sheldrob> .tag add -n "'I will be Wonder Trading right after this to try and obtain some things worth trading for these Pokemon.' - https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75185813" /u/TJBexter --c pink
8:23 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Successfully added note on /u/TJBexter:
8:23 PM <+Porygon-Bot> "'I will be Wonder Trading right after this to try and obtain some things worth trading for these Pokemon.' - https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75185813" (a few seconds ago, by sheldrob, colored pink)
8:29 PM <@norman250> .modmail  GundamKyriosX
8:29 PM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/search/modmail/%20GundamKyriosX
8:33 PM <@Kirzi> LF: unused bottlecap code and a used NA code that isn't a bottlecap code (rare candy code or megastone code or something)
8:33 PM <@Kirzi> For science
8:33 PM <@Kirzi> (No I won't be using any)
8:34 PM <@norman250> Never bothered with any of the item events, so can't help ya
8:34 PM <@Kirzi> iama, got bottlecap codes still?
8:34 PM <@DoubleFried> E7Z73DE68KKW8X8U bottlecap
8:34 PM <@Kirzi> I meant NA but thanks
8:35 PM <@DoubleFried> you specified for the other one
8:35 PM <@DoubleFried> </3
8:35 PM <@iama> yep
8:36 PM <@Kirzi> Can I borrow one?
8:36 PM <@iama> need more
8:36 PM <@iama> sure
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8:41 PM <@Kirzi> Okay, is someone available who has a NA game that hasn't received a bottle cap yet?
8:41 PM <@iama> me
8:41 PM <@Kirzi> Try the same code you sent me
8:41 PM <@Kirzi> You should get the error about it being locked
8:41 PM <@iama> I have been too lazy to actually redeem one
8:42 PM <@Kirzi> Then type out the exact error
8:42 PM <@iama> okay will do
8:42 PM <@iama> Lang of save matter?
8:43 PM <@Kirzi> Probably not
8:43 PM <@iama> cool
8:43 PM <@Kirzi> That reminds me though
8:45 PM <@Kirzi> Does anyone have a save available in SPA, ITA, JPN, KOR, CHS, or CHT?
8:46 PM <@iama> I have a cht save
8:46 PM <@Kirzi> Can you test out a Japanese code on it and see what it says?
8:46 PM <@Kirzi> Or any non NA code
8:47 PM <@Kirzi> Between two specific error messages
8:47 PM <@Kirzi> I'll paste them when you're ready
8:47 PM <@iama> ok
8:51 PM <@norman250> Gonna add this to the Gundam's a jerk pile: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/632pdu/giving_away_45_iv_dream_ball_aerodactyls_sport/dfrcmyn/
8:53 PM <@Kirzi> To be fair, he has a point
8:53 PM <@Kirzi> Except why would you claim something you don't need to release it
8:54 PM <@norman250> Sure, but giveaways are giveaways, if the user doesn't want to specifically breed and giveaway HAs upon request that's their business. If you don't care for that, just don't participate.
8:54 PM <@iama> yep, keep it to yourself
8:54 PM <@Kirzi> Agreed
8:54 PM <@norman250> Don't really see a reason to call out the OP for not being willing to breed you a HA mon for free
8:54 PM <@Kirzi> I just wouldn't comment
8:55 PM <@Kirzi> But when I did giveaways, I'd just let people request whatever and then when I'm out, I'm out
8:55 PM <@Kirzi> If HAs are more desirable, then I run out of those first
8:55 PM <@norman250> I hear ya
8:55 PM <@Kirzi> So requests don't necessarily imply them breeding more on request
8:55 PM <@Kirzi> Just it makes more sense to give out the better ones first
8:56 PM <@Kirzi> But of course, it's his giveawa
8:56 PM <@Kirzi> y
8:56 PM <@Kirzi> And I can also understand not wanting to sort out requests and just giving out the first of whatever species you find in your box first
8:57 PM <@iama> Alright Kirzi I just restored Chinese save
8:57 PM <@Kirzi> Alright
8:57 PM <@Kirzi> You can just take a pic if that's easier haha
8:58 PM <@iama> yep that's what I'll do
8:58 PM <@iama> lmk what you need
8:58 PM <@Kirzi> The error message you get after trying to redeem a non-NA event
9:00 PM <@iama> okay
9:00 PM <@iama> do you have codes
9:00 PM <@Kirzi> Use ALOLA
9:00 PM <@Kirzi> (KOR Vulpix)
9:00 PM <@iama> oh for vulpix, okay
9:01 PM <@Kirzi> By the way, you can use/trade that bottlecap code, I don't need it anymore
9:02 PM <@iama> oh I thought you used it
9:02 PM <@Kirzi> Nope
9:02 PM <@iama> also -_-  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pjAnL3Ag/irccloudcapture-2105689713.jpg
9:02 PM <@Kirzi> The error you got was the one that you get when you're locked out of redeeming it for 30mins
9:03 PM <@iama> kk
9:03 PM <@iama> I want third option for code right
9:04 PM <@iama> cause my DS is stalling on this screen
9:04 PM <@Kirzi> 4th
9:04 PM <@DoubleFried> can somebody reply to this guy i wanna go sleep https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/639uk9/lf_volcanion/
9:04 PM <@iama> Damn
9:04 PM <@DoubleFried> <3
9:04 PM <@iama> what's the 3rd then
9:04 PM <@Kirzi> Infrared
9:05 PM <@iama> ah
9:05 PM <@norman250> I got you, DF
9:05 PM <@iama> is this clear enough? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/f1FC58xR/irccloudcapture526330777.jpg
9:06 PM <@DoubleFried> ty
9:06 PM <@norman250> Just gonna redirect to the rules, though, pretty clear they didn't even look at it
9:06 PM <@Kirzi> Yep
9:07 PM <@Kirzi> Unfortunately I'm an idiot and was comparing the wrong two errors
9:08 PM <@Kirzi> Correction: LF someone with a JPN, SPA, or ITA save
9:08 PM <@iama> okay so my Chinese save is not needed M
9:08 PM <@iama> ?*
9:08 PM <@iama> :(
9:08 PM <@Kirzi> Nope, but thanks anyway
9:08 PM <@Kirzi> Sorry haha
9:09 PM — @Kirzi gives cookie
9:09 PM <@iama> yay
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9:10 PM <@iama> lols
9:10 PM <@Kirzi> Why did he delete
9:10 PM <@Kirzi> The title is identical
9:10 PM <@Kirzi> Maybe because he got downvoted
9:10 PM <@Kirzi> Hahahaha
9:10 PM <@iama> it's at 0
9:10 PM <@Kirzi> Fucking dick
9:11 PM <@norman250> welp, if he cares that much, he can wait 6 hours I guess
9:11 PM <@Kirzi> Yeep
9:11 PM <@iama> >Hey man, that user is continuing to give me a bad name. I constantly give to this subreddit and I dont appreciate it. i know for a FACT it is him. he is the only person with motive. I need something to be done about him.
9:11 PM <@iama> this just appeared in my inbox
9:11 PM <@iama> Wtf
9:11 PM <@norman250> What does he want us to do?
9:11 PM <@Kirzi> Obviously we should ban him for downvoting
9:12 PM <@norman250> There's no way we could prove its them, and even then, we have no right to dictate what posts the users choose to upvote or downvote.
9:12 PM <@Kirzi> ^
9:12 PM ⇐ @AEleven quit (~uid118827@glutes.for.sloots) Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
9:13 PM <@norman250> Is it bad that I think its kinda funny that its driving them crazy, though?
9:13 PM <@Kirzi> Nope
9:13 PM <@Kirzi> Or if it is, you're not alone
9:13 PM <@iama> I replied
9:14 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6375un/giveaway_gundams_love_potion_9/dfso6mb/?context=3
9:15 PM <@Kirzi> http://i.imgur.com/FIOkxCa.png
9:15 PM <@norman250> heh. In fairness to them, it does appear that someone is methodically downvoting like, all of their comments.
9:15 PM <@Kirzi> What do they expect that comment to achieve, though
9:15 PM <@norman250> If anything its just going to give the troll more incentive to continue
9:16 PM <@Kirzi> "Hi it's me, I think you're a dick so I've been downvoting you, hope that answers your question"
9:16 PM <@Kirzi> ??
9:17 PM <@Kirzi> Ahahaha
9:17 PM <@Kirzi> That modmail is gold
9:18 PM <@Kirzi> He actually wants us to ban someone for downvoting him and costing him 10 KARMA
9:18 PM <@norman250> oh, wow
9:18 PM <@norman250> >I lost 10 comment karma due to this kid, and I will not tolerate it. I would like to request this user's ban from the /r/pokemontrades subreddit.
9:18 PM <@iama> L
9:18 PM <@norman250> Right away sir, we're get right on that.
9:18 PM <@norman250> *we'll
9:18 PM <@iama> M
9:18 PM <@iama> MAO
9:18 PM <@iama> fuckin lag
9:18 PM <@iama> I give up lol
9:18 PM <@iama> will screencap
9:19 PM <@iama> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/G0fS0o7T/Screenshot_20170403-211918.png
9:19 PM <@iama> I am dying laughing rn
9:20 PM <@Kirzi> I had a good laugh too
9:20 PM <@norman250> I am further wrankled that they think they're entitled to more on the subreddit because they host giveaways and the other user doesn't.
9:20 PM <@Kirzi> I kind of want to reply but he probably won't respond well to me after the incident with his involvement flair
9:20 PM <@iama> he can't be serious
9:20 PM <@Kirzi> He is totally serious
9:20 PM <@norman250> Yeah, he totally is.
9:20 PM <@Kirzi> Seriously fucking retarded
9:21 PM <@iama> I know he is and I'm incredulous
9:21 PM <@norman250> I also want to reply, but think he'll probably just assume I'm harassing him after our contention yesterday.
9:21 PM <@norman250> That being said, happy to do it if no one else wants to.
9:21 PM <@Kirzi> It's  kind of bad when half of us think that
9:21 PM <@iama> the user hasn't posted in NINE days
9:21 PM <@Kirzi> Uh, who hasn't had a runin with this guy yet
9:21 PM <@norman250> Where's that good ole' fashion Volcano snark when you need it?
9:21 PM <@Kirzi> Ha, really?
9:21 PM <@iama> he probably has no idea his post spawned all this drama
9:21 PM <@Kirzi> "drama"
9:22 PM — @iama pokes Volcano
9:22 PM <@Kirzi> There is no drama
9:22 PM <@norman250> Yeah, he probably isn't involved.
9:22 PM <@iama> exactly
9:22 PM <@Kirzi> It's all in his head
9:22 PM <@norman250> My money's on the community reporter of last night's post.
9:22 PM <@norman250> Or anyone who can clearly see that its getting a rise out of them
9:23 PM <@Kirzi> I'll type up something if someone else wants to post
9:23 PM <@norman250> iama you want to volunteer? He seems to not mind reaching out to you about it.
9:23 PM <@iama> I just want to reply to his pm with "lol"
9:23 PM <@iama> eh, probably not
9:24 PM <@norman250> I'll reply then, I don't mind.
9:24 PM <@iama> I've already said my opinion, not sure me repeating myself will change his mind
9:24 PM <@iama> better to get another voice imo
9:24 PM <@norman250> fair enough
9:30 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/I7HfUSlA/
9:30 PM <@Kirzi> Oh Statue replied
9:30 PM <@Statue>  I LOST 10 COMMENT KARMA I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS
9:31 PM <@norman250> Ah, dang it, I had almost finished my reply.
9:31 PM <@Kirzi> Post yours here too
9:31 PM <@norman250> >There is not a single other person on this subreddit with the motive to downvote me other than this use
9:31 PM <@norman250> While it is possible this user is downvoting you, there is no way to prove that. Furthermore, we do not have the ability to dictate what users choose to upvote or downvote. Reddit's site-wide clause on vote-manipulation cuts both ways in that regard. Even if we could prove that this user was downvoting you, we could not force them to stop.
9:31 PM <@norman250> >I would like to request this user's ban from the /r/pokemontrades subreddit.
9:31 PM <@norman250> I will be honest with you: We will in now way, shape, or form be banning a user simply because you believe they are downvoting you.
9:31 PM <@norman250> > forcing me to delete the threads and waste 6 hours so I can repost.
9:31 PM <@norman250> No one is forcing you to delete your threads or comments. That is 100% your choice. At the end of the day, up voting and downvoting are a part of reddit, and it is just a number. I apologize and empathize with you that you find it frustrating to lose karma, but I would suggest maybe caring about it less. By deleting your posts and comments, you are only
9:31 PM <@norman250> showing whichever user that downvotes you that it clearly bothers you, giving them further incentive to seek a rise out of you.
9:31 PM <@norman250> Lastly, I would like to address this comment:
9:31 PM <@norman250> >If you check his account, the user does not contribute to the subreddit anyway.
9:31 PM <@norman250> Giveaways
9:31 PM <@norman250> Shoot, sorry, meant to make that a snippet, sorry for spam
9:31 PM <@Statue> I would like to request normans ban because he did not finish his reply
9:31 PM <@norman250> I would like to request Statue's ban because it is monday.
9:31 PM <@Kirzi> I would like to request Statue's ban because he requested Norman's ban and I like Norman
9:31 PM <@norman250> :D
9:31 PM <@Statue> Fuck mondays dude
9:32 PM <@Statue> Also wow kirzi not liking me and shit
9:32 PM <@Kirzi> Hey I never said I didn't
9:32 PM <@norman250> Would the reddit admins even do anything?
9:32 PM <@Kirzi> I'm just taking Norman's side over yours
9:33 PM <@Kirzi> Probably not
9:33 PM <@Kirzi> Also my reply was totally the meanest out of the three
9:33 PM <@Kirzi> See iama, I am a dick
9:34 PM <@Kirzi> I forgot to address the part about him treating said user as expendable for "not contributing"
9:34 PM <@Kirzi> What a fucking cunt
9:34 PM <@Statue> if the dude was actually downvoting all his shit they'd probably shadow ban
9:35 PM <@Statue> it happened to professor voldemort forever ago
9:35 PM <@Statue> usually that gets caught in a filter tho
9:35 PM <@norman250> Right, I was gonna mention that as well
9:35 PM <@norman250> Professor voldemort?
9:36 PM <@Statue> he was a cherish ball user when cherish ball was as high as it went
9:36 PM <@Statue> probably like late xyish, when i was active
9:36 PM <@Statue> he downvoted some dude and got shadow banned because the filter caught him doing it
9:36 PM <@Statue> only person we've given flair to on a new acc for something like that, and i think that was a nsy thing
9:37 PM <@norman250> So stalking someone to downvote gets you shadowbanned sitewide?
9:37 PM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't say it does, but it can
9:37 PM <@Statue> well, if you downvote from their history page nothing happens
9:37 PM <@Statue> yeah, it can, if you do it egregiously it would be more likely
9:37 PM <@Statue> idk what happened with him specifically
9:38 PM <@Kirzi> Statue, feel free to reply with the stuff I pasted above (or parts of it)
9:38 PM <@Kirzi> Maybe nicer, I dunno dude
9:38 PM <@Kirzi> I dunno if he deserves nicer given how much of a cunt he's being to that user who is probably not involved at all
9:39 PM <@iama> professor voldemort statue?
9:39 PM <@Statue> meh i dont want to argue with him
9:39 PM <@Statue> figure we can just link him to the admins and let them deal with it if they want to
9:39 PM <@Kirzi> I don't want him to harrass that user
9:39 PM <@Statue> right
9:39 PM <@Kirzi> For all we know he's PMing him with "STOP FUCKING DOWNVOTING ME"
9:39 PM <@Kirzi> Since he's sooo sure it's him
9:40 PM <@iama> ah
9:40 PM <@iama> yeah, I think he needs to be called out for that
9:40 PM <@norman250> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61rvfu/gundams_8th_giveaway/dfhuis6/?context=3
9:41 PM <@norman250> he's also a fucking liar. He said he was only doing that ^V nonsense because of these recent downvotes, but that's 6 days ago
9:42 PM <@Kirzi> http://i.imgur.com/kqeimVw.png
9:43 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5xjt13/gundams_6th_giveaway_woah_omg_100/dej5fuf/
9:43 PM <@Kirzi> Today is actually his third warning against asking for upvotes
9:43 PM <@iama> [link to admins]. I also want to stress that the fact you think http://i.imgur.com/lxFKO11.png
9:43 PM <@Kirzi> I kinda want to report him to reddit admins
9:43 PM <@iama> oh ignore that bit, I forgot to delete what I was originally typing
9:43 PM <@iama> see image
9:44 PM <@Statue> i already replied bc someone told me to
9:44 PM <@iama> o
9:44 PM <@iama> my bad for not refreshing
9:44 PM <@norman250> He probably deserves the report to the admins, he's been warned enough
9:44 PM <@iama> good reply statue
9:44 PM <@Statue> thanks buddy
9:46 PM <@norman250> Or at the very least call him out for the vote manipulation thing in the modmail
9:46 PM <@Kirzi> Is it bad that I'd rather go straight to admins so we can get rid of him?
9:46 PM <@iama> meh
9:46 PM <@iama> also what is cubbyhole talking about in main?
9:46 PM <@iama> if they have an actual vcreate ray its hax
9:47 PM <@Kirzi> No idea
9:47 PM <@iama> ah nvm I missed some reading back
9:47 PM <@iama> "from a friend"
9:54 PM <@norman250> So, all of Gundam's most recently comments have gained like 2-3 upvotes in the last five minutes, shooting his karma up by over 30.
9:54 PM <@norman250> How much you want to be this guy is crazy enough to create alts to vote manipulate?
9:54 PM <@norman250> *bet
9:54 PM <@Kirzi> Oh wow
9:54 PM <@Statue> if reddit works right it shouldnt be that easy
9:55 PM <@Kirzi> I am so going to admins
9:55 PM <@iama> oh wow
9:55 PM <@iama> lol
9:56 PM <@iama> yeah you do that Kirzi
9:56 PM <@norman250> They've literally gone from 76 to 130 comment karma since the original modmail they sent us.
9:57 PM <@iama> ...
9:57 PM <@iama> lol
9:57 PM <@Kirzi> ...seriously?
9:57 PM <@norman250> seriously.
9:57 PM <@doritoburrrito> Professor voldemort, I remember him! Good trader. Switched to melted_mantine or something after that account thing.
9:57 PM <@Statue> yeah
9:58 PM <@Statue> he was a good dude
9:58 PM <@norman250> I'm surprised they'd actually shadowban an account forever because of one offense of that.
9:58 PM <@Kirzi> Fucking hell
9:58 PM <@iama> now I remember why voldemort was jogging my memory
9:58 PM <@iama> I had some trade of his bookmarked as a potential "offer on this sometime"
10:01 PM <@Kirzi> > Thank you to everyone who participated and helped me out today!
10:01 PM <@Kirzi> inb4 PMing users for upvotes
10:01 PM <@norman250> incoming upvotes on that, I'm sure.
10:02 PM <@Kirzi> Admin modmail sent
10:02 PM <@doritoburrrito> Thoughts on Victini dude from earlier? He just posted with this http://m.imgur.com/U8yPoZR,scsmcPz,lda6xO2,78NYnyE,oiPUk4R
10:03 PM <@doritoburrrito> Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61mb6y/lf_offers_need_to_complete_pokedex_ft_some/dfsfyik/
10:04 PM <@Kirzi> He didn't do shit
10:04 PM <@Kirzi> Block
10:05 PM → @AEleven (opped) joined
10:05 PM <@Kirzi> I request a ban on A11 for not being here when we were banning each other
10:06 PM <@AEleven> 🤔
10:07 PM <@doritoburrrito> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4gSW0OuT
10:07 PM <@iama> I request a ban on Kirzi for being bloodthirsty
10:07 PM <@iama> send as messages pls doritoburrrito
10:07 PM <@doritoburrrito> I know mobile sucks hang on
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> http://imgur.com/U8yPoZR
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> http://imgur.com/scsmcPz
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> http://imgur.com/lda6xO2
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> http://imgur.com/78NYnyE
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> http://imgur.com/oiPUk4R
10:08 PM <@iama> yay
10:08 PM <@Kirzi> I only see one image with an actual conversation with the seller, and it ends at "how would I do that"
10:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> There we go
10:09 PM <@iama> hey, pi day victini
10:09 PM <@iama> DoubleFried
10:09 PM <@doritoburrrito> Yeah the seller says "I would have no idea how to do that"
10:10 PM <@Kirzi> He fails terribly at following instructions
10:10 PM <@Kirzi> He didn't even ask the right questions
10:10 PM <@Kirzi> And that's not a modmail
10:11 PM <@doritoburrrito> Reading is hard
10:11 PM <@Kirzi> Sorry, what'd you say?
10:11 PM <@Kirzi> I forgot how to read
10:12 PM <@doritoburrrito> Should I redirect him to ask the actual questions like was it self-obtained, etc, or should we block it?
10:13 PM <@Kirzi> Too spoonfeedy
10:13 PM <@Kirzi> Personally I'd just go
10:13 PM <@Kirzi> "That is not what I requested. Please do not offer the Victini here."
10:14 PM <@Kirzi> If he eventually follows instructions, we can discuss
10:14 PM <@Kirzi> But I wouldn't reply further until he does
10:15 PM <@Kirzi> Of course, feel free to help him along if you want, I just see no reason to go out of our way
10:18 PM <@doritoburrrito> > That is not all of the information I requested that you ask the other user.
10:18 PM <@doritoburrrito> I'm tempted to just leave it at that. Would that be okay?
10:19 PM <@doritoburrrito> Also, I scrolled back to read about the moron with the votes. Fucking idiot
10:20 PM <@Kirzi> Should be fine
10:20 PM <@Kirzi> I just don't want him to offer the Victini thinking it's fine now
10:21 PM <@Kirzi> On a side note
10:21 PM <@doritoburrrito> Okay I'll throw that in, too
10:21 PM <@doritoburrrito> Thanks kirzi!
10:21 PM <@iama> block
10:22 PM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't go around posting DF's video everywhere and talking about how easy it is to inject
10:22 PM <@iama> for all we know the seller is saying that to tell them what they wanna hear and keep them a happy buyer
10:22 PM <@Kirzi> Scammers might take it as a hint and go learn how to scam
10:22 PM <@iama> also yea
10:22 PM <@doritoburrrito> Oh sorry about that. I just copied that from the proof guide page
10:22 PM <@Kirzi> I usually just point out that it's easy to hack in general
10:22 PM <@doritoburrrito> It was listed there, so I thought it was fine
10:23 PM <@doritoburrrito> I'll edit it out and just say it was easy to hack in events. He already read the message anyway
10:23 PM <@Kirzi> Yea, it works there, just personally I feel like it's not the best idea to advertise
10:24 PM <@Kirzi> Since it looks more like it's encouraging people to do it as opposed to "be careful of proof"
10:24 PM <@Kirzi> Context basically
10:24 PM <@Kirzi> Hard to explain
10:24 PM <@Kirzi> Don't worry about it though, it's minor haha
10:24 PM <@doritoburrrito> Yeah, I understand! It's good to know
10:31 PM <@iama> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/6361s0/ft_donachu_corozard_redeems_lf_comp_shinies/dfrohyj/
10:31 PM <@iama> thoughts
10:31 PM <@iama> I would generally allow the shiny at this point but see tag 1
10:34 PM <@Kirzi> Definitely TEA
10:35 PM <@Kirzi> If we're lucky, the date will be around the time he requested it to be hacked
10:36 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonPlaza/comments/5l68ls/gen_7_lf_editing_service_ft_breedjects/
10:37 PM <@iama> he has a lot of posts in other subs talking about how excited he is to have finally hatched his minior after 4000 eggs
10:37 PM <@iama> hmm I missed that
10:37 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeMoonSun/comments/5zpibv/302_eggs_later_huge_power_adamant/df0soy6/ 3000
10:37 PM <@Kirzi> Changing story eh
10:37 PM <@iama> searched all posts mentioning minior but forgot to check submission history
10:37 PM <@iama> >_<
10:37 PM <@iama> good catch
10:37 PM <@iama> nah he said over 4000
10:38 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5ll6d0/weekly_questions_thread_02_january_2017/dbx6jxt/?context=3
10:38 PM <@iama> https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeMoonSun/comments/5l9vas/is_there_a_point_on_generating_pokemons_using/dbu26cc/?context=3
10:38 PM <@Kirzi> Check another Pokemon with his OT too
10:38 PM <@Kirzi> Just a nonshiny
10:38 PM <@Kirzi> I bet SID doesn't match
10:38 PM <@iama> yea its hax
10:38 PM <@Kirzi> Or even TID
10:38 PM <@iama> gotta be
10:39 PM <@iama> thanks Kirzi, checking my work and improving on it
10:39 PM <@Kirzi> We're a team
10:39 PM <@Kirzi> Though the Minior tag is totally fucking with my search method
10:39 PM <@Kirzi> http://i.imgur.com/PUZXzAs.png
10:39 PM <@iama> lol
10:40 PM <@iama> I should edit the tag to say raiamon
10:40 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeMoonSun/comments/5l6plc/my_first_bred_shiny_ever/dbtlnlz/
10:40 PM <@Kirzi> His "exact" numbers aren't even consistent
10:45 PM <@iama> UGHHH
10:45 PM <@iama> it was right in the fucking tag
10:45 PM <@iama> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5l64pi/lf_someone_to_change_my_minior_to_shiny_ft/dbt7b46/
10:45 PM <@iama> serves me right not clicking the old tags
10:45 PM — @iama facepalms
10:45 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/gweran, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bds4/lf_one_of_event_celebi_shaymin_arceus_victini/dfssge9 )
10:45 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/sherlip, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bds4/lf_one_of_event_celebi_shaymin_arceus_victini/ )
10:45 PM <@Kirzi> I thought that was the tag you were referring to haha
10:46 PM <@iama> no it was the sketch tag I added
10:47 PM <@iama> i fail today
10:49 PM — @Kirzi gives another cookie
10:49 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/gweran, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63b09h/ft_shiny_xerneas_20th_anni_arceus_lf_jirachi/dfsqa8a )
10:49 PM — @iama sits in the corner and eats cookie
10:50 PM <@Kirzi> r to the above
10:50 PM <@Kirzi> doritoburrrito
10:50 PM <@iama> r last report
10:50 PM <@doritoburrrito> Hmm?
10:50 PM <@Kirzi> With that trolly guy you did the flair app for, did you ever explicitly warn him for "obtained on the sub"?
10:50 PM <@Kirzi> Because he totally just pulled it above
10:51 PM <@doritoburrrito> Nope, all of the posts I checked of his he mentioned who he got his stuff from or it was from himself
10:52 PM <@doritoburrrito> Most of the stuff he traded was shinies and self obtained 20th events
10:52 PM <@norman250> trollolly?
10:52 PM <@Kirzi> Ah
10:52 PM <@doritoburrrito> Link kirzi?
10:52 PM <@norman250> Is under questioning or something?
10:52 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bds4/lf_one_of_event_celebi_shaymin_arceus_victini/dfsskyf/
10:52 PM <@norman250> Because they may have just registered an alt with flairhq
10:52 PM <@Kirzi> "from the sub"
10:52 PM <@Kirzi> What do we think about a temp?
10:53 PM <@iama> good catch norman, who/
10:53 PM <@norman250>  /u/Tapudemorn
10:53 PM <@doritoburrrito> I know the Arceus is from cubbyhole since I remember checking that app
10:53 PM <@norman250> new account, just set invalid flair, IP matches in Flairhq
10:53 PM <@doritoburrrito> If I can remember, he should be able to
10:53 PM <@Kirzi> Weird
10:53 PM <@Kirzi> Ha
10:54 PM <@doritoburrrito> How do you check ip stuff in flair hq? Also, how do you see who has done certain flair apps? Tsar mentioned he saw me working on trollolly the other day
10:55 PM <@iama> logs
10:55 PM <@iama> (reminder never to mention on reddit )
10:55 PM <@iama> https://hq.porygon.co/search/log
10:55 PM <@norman250> Its one of the search options
10:55 PM <@doritoburrrito> How does the search work?
10:55 PM <@iama> you have ref, log, modmail, and users
10:55 PM <@iama> go to main fhq, dropdown at top
10:56 PM <@norman250> its basically just a list of ip addresses record when a user sets flair
10:56 PM <@iama> or you just do https://hq.porygon.co/search/ and slap "log", "ref", or "modmail" (dont really use "user") at the end of the url
10:56 PM <@norman250> *recorded
10:56 PM <@iama> stick a username in https://hq.porygon.co/search/log and you'll see
10:56 PM <@iama> as for seeing who does the app
10:57 PM <@Kirzi> TSAR lurks over your shoulder
10:57 PM <@iama> while someone is working on the app their name will show up on the app list (ie "Kirzi is viewing this app")
10:57 PM <@iama> alternatively, you can see who approved whose flair in the modlog
10:57 PM <@iama> link on the sidebar
11:01 PM <@doritoburrrito> Ah interesting. I've never looked at the mod log before. Still learning new things
11:02 PM <@doritoburrrito> Update on Victini dude: http://m.imgur.com/1aumsgJ
11:03 PM <@iama> "special gift things"
11:03 PM <@iama> as I said before, just block
11:04 PM <@norman250> Yeah, unfortunately, "no idea tho" isn't clear enough.
11:04 PM <@doritoburrrito> I know haha it's actually worse with this updated screenshot
11:05 PM <@doritoburrrito> Guy basically confirmed he has no idea
11:05 PM <@norman250> Buyer's fault- if he wanted only legitimate event that he could retain for trade here, he should have steered away from that exchange.
11:06 PM <@Kirzi> Does anyone want to give an opinion on tempping trololololololly?
11:06 PM <@norman250> For saying "from the sub" after being warned to be more clear?
11:06 PM <@doritoburrrito> I never warned him from the sub, though
11:06 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bn5z/lf_dbha_legends_wproof_wt_dbha_lugiahooh_wproof/ by /u/LexBredum breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bkog/lf_dbha_legends_wproof_wt_dbha_lugiahooh_wproof/ )
11:07 PM <@norman250> what do you mean?
11:07 PM <@iama> has trollololloklsjlkjkljfdklsjfkldsjsaklfjsklafjdslky done anything with the alt
11:07 PM <@doritoburrrito> I warned him for not reposting details off of a spreadsheet and trading for other users' events with no info
11:07 PM — @Kirzi facepalms
11:07 PM <@iama> if not I wouldnt really factor in the alt
11:07 PM <@Kirzi> I mean for quantity of violations
11:07 PM <@Kirzi> But okay
11:07 PM <@Kirzi> (facepalming at spam report by the way)
11:08 PM <@norman250> What's their violation count at?
11:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> Sorry, norman, I mean I haven't warned him about offering things as "from the sub"
11:08 PM <@norman250> Ah
11:08 PM <@iama> .tag /u/trollolly
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/trollolly on /r/pokemontrades:
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "Traded for shiny Feebas with no OT/ID posted" (2 days ago, by doritoburrrito, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62bm3l/-/dfmme8p , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "Traded for shiny Dratini no info" (2 days ago, by doritoburrrito, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/60dbr5/-/df5i3oe , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <@iama> I'm so sorry
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (2) "Traded for Volcanion with no info and IOU trade for heavy ball code" (2 days ago, by doritoburrrito, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5yci3x/-/deqntqd , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (3) "Posted info in spreadsheet and didn't repost to sub" (2 days ago, by doritoburrrito, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5xqsjm/-/dek82qf , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (4) "Exchange" (14 days ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/60jvm6/-/df6ysnv , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (5) "6 hour rule" (23 days ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5yywi0 , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (6) "not reposting details off spreadsheet for shiny petilil" (25 days ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5ybpp1/-/deorw5b , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (7) "Shiny Bounsweet and Comfey - missing info" (a month ago, by UNAB, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5x7k2a/-/defw2vh , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (8) "missing ot/id" (a month ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5vcn9c/-/de19pn7 , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (9) "Missing info" (a month ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5vp4po/-/de3q1id , colored yellow)
11:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy." (on comment by /u/Leaves777, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63ati9/ft_gen_45_rng_shiny_legends_and_comp_shinies_lf/dfst6h2 )
11:08 PM <@doritoburrrito> I'd be okay with a temp if he broke a rule he was warned about already
11:08 PM <@iama> hmm I dont see a new tag?
11:09 PM <@iama> r
11:09 PM <@Kirzi> I didn't add a new tag yet
11:10 PM <@norman250> iama: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62s3th/ft_na_genesect_codes_jpn_console_redeems/dfss4eh/
11:10 PM <@norman250> The potential alt's only activity as of now
11:10 PM <@iama> just gonna approve
11:11 PM <@iama> yea we can tag the alt but I dont see a reason to take any action regarding that atm
11:11 PM <@norman250> I don't either, I only brought up in case it turned out to be relevant since we were discussing the main
11:12 PM <@iama> right right
11:12 PM <@iama> gotcha
11:12 PM <@iama> yea it was a good catch
11:16 PM <@Kirzi> Tagged the alts+offense
11:16 PM <@Kirzi> I'll assume no temp unless you guys say otherwise
11:17 PM <@iama> link?
11:17 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bds4/lf_one_of_event_celebi_shaymin_arceus_victini/dfsskyf/
11:18 PM <@norman250> Personally I'd be more pro a "next time temp may be considered" if they haven't gotten a specific warning about "from the sub," not being enough.
11:18 PM <@norman250> I mean, I know that's not an excuse, its explicitly laid out in the rules, but some of those tags are a month old now.
11:18 PM <@iama> fair
11:18 PM <@iama> I'm cool with what norman250 said
11:19 PM <@norman250> and dbs all came at the same time from a flair app, which I'm more inclined to treat as one warning
11:20 PM <@Kirzi> Alrighty
11:20 PM <@Kirzi> I don't actually have a preference, I just figured I'd bring it up given quantity of tags
11:20 PM <@Kirzi> I'm doing too many things at once to care
11:20 PM <@doritoburrrito> Thank you for the update. We discussed this as a moderation team and decided that the Victini should not be offered here. The person said himself that "it's possible that I got from one of those special gift things" which means that he is unsure. The comments "I have no idea tho" and "it was a long time ago" cast more doubt on the event as well. Remember,
11:20 PM <@doritoburrrito> the rules are clear that Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy cannot be traded. Thank you, and please feel free to send us a modmail in the future if you have additional questions about an event.
11:20 PM <@doritoburrrito> Thoughts on that to Victini dude?
11:20 PM <@Kirzi> Sur
11:21 PM <@Kirzi> e
11:21 PM <@norman250> That looks good
11:21 PM <@doritoburrrito> Thanks 👍
11:24 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy." (on comment by /u/Leaves777, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63ati9/ft_gen_45_rng_shiny_legends_and_comp_shinies_lf/dfsukrq )
11:25 PM <@iama> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
11:25 PM <@iama> I approved that before :(
11:26 PM <@norman250> hmm, joel appears to be correct.
11:26 PM <@norman250> Azn has painted a bloody swath of red on the trade he linked.
11:28 PM <@norman250> I can't see what mew leaves actually obtained in that post, though
11:28 PM <@Kirzi> Seems to check out
11:28 PM <@Kirzi> The one in the OP
11:28 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5zda51/lf_lucky_eggs_ft_various_5iv_breedjects_some_comp/dex7mpi/
11:28 PM <@norman250> Oh, I see
11:28 PM <@norman250> from kindlegarden
11:29 PM <@norman250> Hmm, but the thread appears to be red due to leaves not updating Azn with info; whats the call here? Leave a comment saying the mew is fine to trade?
11:29 PM <@norman250> Bounce 'em back to Azn?
11:31 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy." (on submission by /u/bswalsh123, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63br3v/lf_events_ft_eventslegendariesshinies/ )
11:31 PM <@Kirzi> Hmm
11:32 PM <@norman250> a
11:32 PM <@Kirzi> Well he's missing OT/ID in any case
11:32 PM <@norman250> normal legends from GTS
11:32 PM <@Kirzi> That thread is confusing
11:32 PM <@norman250> Wouldn't that technically be providing the information via link though?
11:33 PM <@Kirzi> OT/ID can't be provided via link
11:33 PM <@norman250> Isn't that what 99% of spreadsheet offered shinies do?
11:33 PM <@Kirzi> It works for username since the link takes you straight to the users involved in the trade
11:33 PM <@Kirzi> But not OT/ID
11:34 PM <@Kirzi> Since that info could be anywhere (or nowhere)
11:34 PM <@iama> in the OP, but yea I guess
11:42 PM <@iama> hmm
11:42 PM <@iama> sorry had to walk dog
11:42 PM <@iama> what do you guys think, comment and ask the guy to include the rule 3 info and allow off that?
11:42 PM <@iama> the comments are removed so we can see its okay but traders cant ><
11:43 PM <@Kirzi> Sure
11:44 PM <@iama> commented
11:44 PM <@iama> once he does though what do you think
11:44 PM <@iama> allow?
11:44 PM <@Kirzi> I think it's a mess but it should be fine assuming that was the origin
11:45 PM <@iama> kinda just want to leave the iAzn stuff alone since that's messy
11:45 PM <@Kirzi> Ask him?
11:45 PM <@iama> is iAzn even here?
11:46 PM <@Kirzi> Only one way to find out
11:46 PM <@iama> iAznFTW: was this ever fully resolved https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5zn44h/ft_mew_lf_different_mew/dezlvww/
11:47 PM <@iama> sigh he deleted reply
11:47 PM <@iama> I'll just say to include it upfront next time, I think
11:51 PM <@iama> anyone opposed?
11:51 PM <@iama> dont really think we need to hound him
11:51 PM <@Kirzi> Sure
11:51 PM <@norman250> I'm not opposed to that, no