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As Attorney General

I request that all data pertaining to the ASIS. Secret Intelligence Service is to be also available for me to see at any time I wish.
I will be acting DPM for the next 6 weeks this also adds onto the urgency of this.
Message me here your decision. @X.Y_Z
X.Y_Z - Today at 09:42
I can't disclose any further information about the ASIS agency. Without permission from the Director General of the Department
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:38
Well then get his permission.
Or I'm not going to pass it.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:38
You don't have any authority over the ASIS.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:39
I would like to view the asis information. I am the attorney general after all.
And DPM for 6 weeks.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:42
The Attorney General has no affiliation with the ASIS Department which is a child agency of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:42
It's time for you to trust me so I can do my job.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:42
The Attorney General has permissions on legislature, government except the Military forces.
You're asking for power here
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:43
No. I don't want to rule the asis. I want to view it.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:43
We can't reveal everything to you inside the ASIS agency
what is given to you, can be seen
Nothing else.
There is very confidential information in the department
ranging from contact information
IP location of users
Co-Ordinates
operations
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:44
Then you need to fill the DoFA to someone other than the same person for DoD.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:44
There is no one else we could find suitable for the DoFA Position
It's not an easy task.
The DoD co-founded this group with me
and he holds the DoFA position
until a suitable member
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:45
well look on the constitution.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:45
is found for the Affairs
You just need to stick to your part you see.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:45
I'm not going to help a group that can't follow their own rules.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:45
What the hell do you mean follow their own rules?
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:45
Conform to the constitution.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:46
The ASIS is EXCEMPT From these such scenarios
The consitution in no circumstances
mensions the ASIS department
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:46
Not stated in the constitution.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:46
Beacuse it would be ridiculous to state it in the first place.
It is final, you do not have the permission to view the confidentialities within that group.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:46
which means the PM & AG have zero idea about the organization of retrospect.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:47
the PM and AG
Are being given information
by the ASIS
Technically
in a illegal form
So you're asking for quite a lot
The Department of Veteran Affairs would manage the communication between the government, Military and the ASIS.
But the Minister of Foreign Affairs, who in reccomendation of the Director General
Would ALSO be able to reveal such information about the agency
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:48
then create a database with everything that is not personal contact information
And allow the AGs department to use it if needed.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:48
You can't tell what ASIS can do or not do.
Once the ASIS releases something
it comes in a link.
We have too much intelligence
in order to isolate.
If we had to run such a database
All our information would be jeopardised in terms of linking up information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:49
listed to my demands.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:49
so we would have to spend days and days trying to figure out ways people can see our confidential informatoin
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:50
if you think you are getting anywhere with asking for that personal information from everyone then your group will not succeed.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:50
Rule 2: Retention of intelligence information concerning Australian persons
2.1 ASIS may retain intelligence information concerning an Australian person only where it is necessary to do so for the proper performance of ASIS’s functions or the retention is authorised or required by or under another Act.

2.2 Where ASIS does retain intelligence information concerning an Australian person, ASIS is to ensure that:

the information is protected, by such security safeguards as it is reasonable in the circumstances to take, against loss, against unauthorised access, use, modification or disclosure, and against other misuse; and
access to that information is only to be provided to persons who require such access for the proper performance of an ASIS function.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:51
And I should be authorized.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:51
You are not. No one is.
Rule 3: Communication of intelligence information concerning Australian persons
3.1 ASIS may communicate intelligence information concerning Australian persons only where it is necessary to do so for the proper performance of ASIS’s functions or where such communication is authorised or required by or under another Act. In addition, the following specific rules apply.

Information that is important for specified purpose
3.2 Intelligence information concerning an Australian person may be communicated where:

the information is publicly available; or
the information concerns activities in respect of which the Australian person is a representative of the Commonwealth or a State or Territory in the normal course of official duties; or
deletion of that part of the information concerning the Australian person would significantly diminish the utility of the information for the purposes of:
maintaining Australia’s national security;
maintaining Australia’s national economic well-being;
promoting Australia’s foreign relations;
preventing or investigating the commission of a serious crime; or
responding to an apparent threat to the safety of a person; or
the information concerns an Australian person who is, or was at the time the information was collected, the subject of an authorisation given by the Minister under section 9 of the Act.
to be provided to persons who require such access for the proper performance of an ASIS function.
The Attorney General does not function in the ASIS department
I don't know how many times I have to make this clear.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:52
Then I'm not going to help the group. I want access in case needed.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:53
Are you blackmailing the future of the group by using your rank?
The Attorney General does not function in the ASIS.
This is in real life
Want's are seperate from needs
We will only give you the information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:54
no I'm not blackmailing. I'm simply asking.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:54
that we think you need
You're asking for a lot.
You can't use your rank to your advantage and demand such things.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 10:57
well all I'm saying is that this information you've asked for, if the wrong person joins this group and reports it for trying to gather personal information, they will shut down the group you do know that right.
X.Y_Z - Today at 10:57
What.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:00
They can't report the group on behalf of GitHub
I've put no links onto ROBLOX on demand of their personal information of such
We gather their information online through links, addresses
which are all on public domain
So none of this is remotely illegal
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:01
didn't say illegal.
Just go at least meet me halfway with my demands.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:01
Illegal in terms of the Terms and Conditions of ROBLOX
Once they are online, I will have a word with them about this incident.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:03
Until you show trust I'm not going to either.
I'll be online later tonight. 8pm EST if you want to talk then.          but when all the minister positions are filled by different people; which will be soon. They can vote to over rule the ASIS.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:05
They cannot vote!
Jesus christ.
This is RIDICULOUS.
The ASIS is an agency where no one else has power over. THE ASIS Does not have power over other people either.
Departments are owned by the Government Office, Not the Foreign Affairs office. They have no say in how ASIS operates.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:06
Well apparently the ASIS can do whatever the hell it wants because you say so.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:06
What.
Since when did I say that the ASIS can do whatever they want
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:06
I don't want to be a part of a group that is like that.
you are implying it.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:07
You're jumping to conclusions which are ridiculous
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:07
No I'm being realistic.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:07
You're not.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:07
I'm stopping it before it starts.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:07
ASIS works in their own agency, and does not 'command' anything inside of Australia, They reveal information to the Vet. AFF for processing to the government, in which the government can act upon
the government cannot directly contact the ASIS, due to security reasons
There is too much information that I trust, ALL members of the government to have the right to access to
If you are able to access the ASIS database,
I'll recieve further complaints of other members asking
Why can't THEY too
recieve the information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:08
Okay then The AG department can deny all ASIS affiliations then if it pleases.
There is no reason for other members to have it that are not AG or PM.
Meet the demands I have asked.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:09
The AG department would have to contact the Foreign Minister.
Such confliction occurs
This would be debated upon
But I'd advise you, Just beacuse you can't access something and get things your way gives you no right to shut it down
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:10
There is no debate. I have my demands.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:10
It will ruin both your own reputation and my time.
Demands of which need debating
It's a democratic society.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:10
Not for the ASIS.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:10
I can't just shut down the ASIS in a few seconds because someone tells me to do such
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:10
I didn't say shut it down.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:10
You're denying ASIS affiliations
Essentially, requesting all government branches
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:11
As Attorney General I should be trusted with this information.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:11
to to remove affiliations
As a member of the Australian Governship. You do not have the right to the information.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:11
I am able to alter the laws of the lands and you cannot trust me with the people's information
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:11
That is your job.
And you fail to understand.
that you can not ask for such information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:12
You have my demands you can speak with the foreign minister.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:12
inside the ASIS, regarding my own personal information, and my agents personal information.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:12
I will be back online tonight for an answer.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:12
And I do not have the time to isolate those from the publi.
public.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:13
Doesn't have to be public it will be classified information I will have access to.
I will not share it with anyone.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:13
I can't take your words for the sake of it
I do not trust anyone with the information, for trust is merely a mutual concept. And it is impractical. If we all follow the protocols.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:14
You can and you will.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:14
I used to run
a government
in which they fail to meet my demands
in keeping their confidential information
within the branch
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:15
I'm trying to help the group. Allow me to meet my demands.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:15
minutes after the government voting that the classified information can be accessed
the PM of that such group was rogue
And leaked all the information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:15
I don't care about your other government they was the past and many other people.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:15
And I will not allow
such occurances to happen again
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:15
Attorney general will only have access to it
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:15
You as the attorney general, cannot storm into the ASIS office demanding for information
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:16
I just did.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:16
You would be rejected.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:16
then I would reject affiliations with the ASIS inside the government.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:17
You would have to create a bill for that.
in which all the ministers would have to sign
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:17
Not all.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:17
Yes all.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:17
I would have the PMs signature along with DoD at least.
if you're not going to give in to what I have requested then I can leave if you want.
Is that understood? @X.Y_Z
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:20
You need it all signed.
By all available ministers
the PM
and the DPM if apointed
Voted.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:21
I know that the DFA minister will not do it.
I am also going to be DPM when PM takes leave.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:21
Yes but you need a majority of signatures
You can't be DPM and Attorney
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:21
Then I will get that later tonight.

You approved.
I will be acting DPM while he is gone.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:23
Idiot of me.
I didn't review it properly.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:23

X.Y_Z - Today at 11:23
You will take the DPM role but you would be removed from Attorney General.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:23
I can still be AG.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:23
No you can't.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:23
Approved by you.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:24
I don't approve it anymore.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:24
well then I'll stay as AG.
You can find another person for DPM.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:24
Bear in mind
If you fail the votes for this
ASIS affilliation
You would be removed from the office.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:24
nowhere is says for that.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:24
I say that.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:24
If you want me to leave jus say it.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:24
Because it would mean that you would be unfit for service.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:24
I will remove everything and leave now.
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:25
It will conclude.
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:25
yes or no. Do not try me. @X.Y_Z
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:25
You're questioning my authority
SkyMullinsMD - Today at 11:25
I am yes. I am asking a question.
Do you want me to leave office right now yes or no?
I'm not go to back out of my demands. Don't like them? Then I will resign. You say the word.
@X.Y_Z Make a decision. I'm not waiting
X.Y_Z - Today at 11:34
Removed.