>Arcanist
-made of glass
-he's necessary to get hitting power
-power booster for support role
@35 take if kaelyssa, rahn
-if arc node = arcanist
-if fighting jack = arcanist

>Destor Thane
-not a dragoon
-WE HAS CMD ISSUES OUTSIDE OUT OF DAWNGUARD
@50 take if Ossyan (lack of accuracy buff), Cmd issues
-Charge with lance, reach, then gunfighter someone else

>Dawnguard Scyir
-Skornergy on 3 levels
-Drive: Reroll is worst in game
-Better to marshall to unit than scyir
-I activate first so I can drive but I can't flank
-Coordinated Strikes sucks (can charge through dawnguard models)
-Both him and jacks threat further than dawnguard
-only selling point is 2 point for cmd 10
-otherwise 2 point dawnguard sentinel

>Magister
-Magic ability 7 (ret cant buy)
-forcebolt is cool
-whip snap is hilarious
-pretty good melee
-combo strike for easy slams
-made of glass
take if rahn 35 or 50, garryth likes whip snap, depends on rest of solos

>Mage Hunter Assassin
-only 2 pt model can one shot cygnar heavy
-yes
-even if it wasnt death on two legs still good for scenario
-use for objectives
-14" threat range so good
-Best non-character in Retribution
@take with every caster always take 2

>Ghost Sniper
-biggest weakness is rat 7
-big thing is rng and arcane shot
-swift hunter is stupid
-rat 7 is inconsistent for 2pt model
-lack of ad sucks
-requires rat 8 or hunter
-assassins are better
@don't really take them, no impact for points

>pEiryss
-solid model
-death bolt is classic but sucks at everything than killing single models
-phantom seeker isnt important
-disruptor is selling point
-good with banshee
@character restricted only
@basic eiryss is good if banshee

>eEiryss
-does everything
-removes everything basically
-that affects sword too
-disrupt jacks is good
-arcane interference and whiplash
-she's practically a 4 point model for ret
@take her with everyone
@if character restricted, depends on who has issue with upkeeps

>Issyen
-hits like truck
-gets angry
-issues:
-he is a missile
-too expensive to do that
-doesn't hit hard enough to earn points back
-sucks cause not fearless (cmd 9)
-sucks cause not pathfinder
@take if eVyros when not tiered
@okay if rahn
@35 take with eVyros, take him with Rahn at 50 maybe if rahn

>Nayl
-fearless solo
-no pathfinder
-made of glass
-lacks force barrier
-arcane annihilation oh god its terrible
-only mage hunter without pathfinder
-arcane annihilation is a problem
-"hey retribution brought a model to remove my focus and a model to remove their focus"
@never field him
@only field at 150+

>Narn
-interesting
-problem = he is not an assassin
-assassin is better than narn at 3 points
@narn not bad if 2 assassins already
@eVyros wants at 35, maybe rahn if points left over

>House Shyeel Artificer
-painful to look at
-if 2 pts he'd be better
-defensive stats are okay
-force barrier is okay
-beat back is okay
-being a medium base sucks
-large based units in ret suck
-he isn't fast
-discordia is better
-hits surprisingly hard
-magno blast isn't bad, its just ghetto force blast
-only worth it with rahn on feat turn
@never use, not a good guy
@needs to be 2 points, not on a medium base, be a magister







>Dawnguard Invictors
-cool unit
-defensive stats suck
-good rat
-good with flank
-they harder than errants
-sword knights are worse then them
-UA is good
-nothing wrong cept that they are unfocused and expensive
@credible with ossyan, suck with Ravyn (too slow/low threat)

>Dawnguard Sentinels
-okay
-lacking CMA sucks
-Ret has no mat buffs so they can't hit much
-lack of pathfinder hurts
-spd 5 gives weak threat
-UA is amazing
-Why is it granted vengeance, needs to be Tactics
-Drive: Pronto is best drive
-should be protected at all costs
-Cmd 10 with reroll (not that command 9 does much)
-Flag is useless
-worse than bane knights
@take with anyone that has stuff to interact with vengeance (polarity shield, kaelyssa, garryth - vengeance goes first if mirage)
@max units with UA is good
@take them with eVyros tier, only cause you have to, decent with him

>Dawnguard Destors
-oh god they exist
-so many problems with them
-no easy bonus to armor (need to be in half inch melee range - unyielding isn't worth it)
-no normal melee attacks without charging
-dumb to be requiring to use ranged in melee
-lack of melee weapon sucks for free strikes
-least hard hitting heavy cav in the game
-their guns are ehh..
-only appear in eVyros tier list (feat, deflection, PC reduction, spd bonus are okay)
-only good for taking scenario points or getting in the way
-basically jam unit
-dps is so low
-amazed if they do points in damage over 3 games

>Battlemages
-poor man's druids
-almost like melee is better than magic
-base defensive sucks, force barrier saves them
-magic stuff is okay, not that ret needs it
-not a bad unit
-not a good unit
-only really worth it with rahn
-maybe worthwhile with Ossyan due to quicken
-shatterstorm is okay on them
@take with rahn for feat, no other casters actively seeking them

>Houseguard Halberdiers
-never fails to impress
-hard finding casters that like them
-good statline
-shieldwalling move 9
-better stats than sentinels
-hit like trucks with minifeat
@eVyros is good with them, good for reinforcements outside of Nyss Hunters

>Houseguard Rifleman
-in the shadow of legendary company
-quality unit
-nothing wrong with them
-UA isn't bad
-crux is they don't do well with their planned idea
-game doesn't work that way
-retribution has better ranged units
@only when first playing the game

>MHSF
-faction defining unit
-baseline is good but not great
-not bad in melee
-UA is amazing
-phantom seeker defines unit
-Rets AD unit
-unit is just good
-only thing that balances them is lack of banner and cmd benefits
-break frequently enough that it is annoying
@take them with everyone

>Stormfall Archers
-Mastershake: "I am the patron saint of this unit"
-not impressive rat
-handcannons with aoes is amazing
-good abilities
-star strike is least useful
-not afraid of pow 6s so can drop at own feet
@take with Ravyn, Ossyan, otherwise it varies

>Soulless Escort
-not bad
-average stats
-on par with errant
-defensive stats aren't amazing
-just an extra model
-mage static doesn't matter
-most notable feature is magic weapon
-disbinding kinda sucks, only time to use it is too late
@shows up if halberdiers only to tag along
@okay if to just throw in if full on arcanists
@my eVyros has 2 cause I didn't want a Scyir

>Heavy Rifle Team
-nothing offensive on them
-average stats
-spd 4 sucks
-light artillery is about as offensive as a nazi at a bar mitzvah
-don't show up

>Nyss Hunters
-only reason does not us is cause not MHSF
-great reinforcement unit
-okay with ossyan

>Lanyssa Ryssyll
-hard to like her
-2 pts there are a lot of better things

>Aiyana and Holt
-attached to Ravyn and Ossyan
-Magic weapon is good
-Harm is a huge deal for strikeforce
-holt is just useful
-nothing wrong with them
-kaelyssa might love them as would garryth

>Sylys
-kaelyssa's husband
-everyone wants him
-Kaelyssa > Garryth > Ossyan > everyone else > Rahn
-arm 25 vyros, thats it really

>Dahlia and Skarath
-extra spray
-upkeep is good
-put riptose on halbies
-put riptose on MHA
-put riptose on Garryth
-not sold on 9 points
@don't take with anyone at this time

>Griffon
-fun guy
-decent built in ability
-nothing offensive, just fine
-most casters don't care for him cause he takes solo points
-great with eVyros for Synergy
-aspis replaced the griffon
@take with eVyros otherwise not worth it (destor thane is better)

>Aspis
-pVyros loves them
-eVyros loves them
-Kaelyssa, Ossyan, Rahn at 50
-no magic weapons is kinda weird

>Gorgon
-the winner of the special olympics
-force lock is only useful
-can't be sold with
-gun is bad
-would be good if you deleted "this model"
-gorgon with lightning tendrils, and the world weeps
-only buy for completion sake

>Chimera
-see with Rahn
-big thing is apparition
-at 6 pts there isn't anything wrong just a bit much for something that is only an arc node
@only worth it with Rahn

>Sphinx
-7pts reach
-gun isn't great
-melee is kinda underpowered (16, 14)
-bit slow
-hard to take advantage of reach with ps 16
@difficult to put in lists, Ossyan Mangled Metal

>Manticore
-can smash for 23
-rof 3 handcannon isn't bad
-Ret casters dont like giving out focus
-single covering fire is less than useful
@okay with Ravyn, not really played anywhere outside of large games, its a feral warpwolf

>Hydra
-failed gimmick
-gimmick just doesn't work
-building up focus doesn't work
-chain attack isn't worth it
-second least hard hitting heavy in the game
-two pow 14s (arcanist makes 2x 16s, basically becomes discordia at max 16)
@no 35 or 50 point list

>Daemon
-sawn off hellmouth
-open fists
-hits as hard as a hydra
-only take cause gun can't be crippled
-marshalled with sentinels is worth 9 points
-might as well have a line of boxes
-similar to Dahlia
-could be great, mostly its just inferior
-biggest crux is not useful unless sentinel tax
-Garryth will take at 50

>Phoenix
-easier to describe what doesn't do
-most pow weapon in the heavies
-useful abilities
-reason the chimera does not appear often
@take with everyone but Ravyn, Ossyan, pVyros
@eVyros takes at 50, Garryth takes it, Kaelyssa takes it

>Banshee
-sucks being on vyre chassis
-momentum is amazing on rng 12
-wailing is only truely dangerous when you forget about it
-eCaine ends his turn cause he can't do anything
@35 garryth, ossyan take it
@kaelyssa takes at 50, but she needs an arc node and chimera doesn't take it

>Hypnos
-9 pts that is only really worth about 7 unless you are ossyan
-underwhelming at 16/14
-only spd 5
-never take for arc node
-sacred ward for no foreseeable reason
-if you ignore affinity its laughable
-affinity is amazing
-void lock is amazing and its on hit
-nothing gets you out of it
@no other casters want it

>Discordia
-two pow 16s
-most reliable answer to enemy heavy
-you take it for the gun
-one of better sprays in game
-imprint is crazy
-run and imprint
@Ravyn, if no ravyn/char restriction, a lot of casters like it
@both Vyros like it
@can't be shot off/purified
@Kaelyssa likes it

>Hyperion
-main gun is obscene
-beats the second highest by 3
-64 hp
-12 shields
-so much fun to drop 5" Aoes
-crit: consume works on book?
@35 pVyros can take 2
@50 Ravyn can take 1, Ossyan can take 1
@Garryth can take it maybe?

>Cricket (Arcantrik Force Generator)
-overshadowed by the Banshee
-noisy cricket is hard to like
-unchargeable annoys people
-would be better at 9 points or able to boost
-rapid fire is most common use
-its like using really bad stormfalls
-2x Stormfalls is better

>Garryth
-fun
-defensive statline
-nice melee
-stealth is a big deal
-overall is focused guy
-streamlined no waste
-feat is hit or miss, some opponents don't care (trolls), affects avatar
-fun but not best
-probably low end of casters
@35 it looks like Garryth, Sentinels, Eiryss, Assassins, MHSF, Arc node, Sylys

>Kaelyssa
-good caster
-good variety
-feat is ludicrous
-banishing ward and arcane reckoning are vaguely useful
-backlash isn't worth using
-fantastic
-can gun down hordes casters
-drain with gun, then boosted spells
-upper tier

>Rahn
-good spells
-forcefield is a bad spell
-force hammer, tk, polarity shield is all he needs
-feat is great just one dimensional
-so vulnerable to spell defense
-eHaley is better in every way
@best or second best caster

>Ravyn
-"fun caster"
-Ravyn, Discordia, max MHSF + UA, Stormfalls, Stormfalls, MHA, MHA, eEiryss, A&H
-Ravyn doesn't actually do anything in games
-never use eliminator
-Veil sometimes useful, not usually
-easily top tier (best or second best)

>Dawnlord Vyros
-spell list is underwhelming
-2 offensive spells on a 6 focus caster
-hallowed avenger does nothing
-feat is Nemos feat but worse
-best ret caster for hyperion
-questionable if improved enough

>Ossyan
-gun is cool
-melee attack has dispel (no reason to use it)
-rat 6
-spell list all over the place
-its a better pVyros
-chronomancer isn't good
-ossyan bleeds focus
-shatterstorm is redundant
-list building for him is hard
-his element of control is unreliable
-he is inconsistent as a caster (wants ranged units, but cant buff accuracy which is what they want)
-always gonna be exposed
-just an average caster (too many variables)

>Incissar
-large based sucks
-quick work isn't gonna be used
-inspiration dawnguard is useless
-gun is okay
-deflection is pretty decent
-synergy is what ret needed (accuracy bonus)
-twister is not impressive
-easy rider is nice to have, but an insulting way to get it
-easy rider does not affect eVyros
-feat's selling point is spoiling enemy plans
-what eVyros wants to do is use Synergy to crush your opponent
-2 offensive spells suck
-twister is ghetto eliminator
-synergy works on impact attacks
-tier list is credible despite destors
-FA:U is bad
-tier 2 is good, thane for spd is okay, heavy for focus is good
-he's turning into dr. dolittle
-destors are in the way