[22:49] <Steven> how are the general opionions on sizes of alliances?
[22:49] <Angelus> too big
[22:49] <AndroX> they vari
[22:49] <Angelus> should be 50
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[22:50] <Steven> well.. i think smaller would benefit the smaller alliances, give them a chance to succeed
[22:50] <Highlander> no limit on alliances, also no score for alliances
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[22:51] <Angelus> Highlander, winning alliance is alliance that has the winning planet at the end of the round?
[22:51] <Steven> Highlander, no score for alliances? that would change the game quite a bit
[22:51] <Highlander> gal and planet score only!
[22:51] <Highlander> also counted score sux:/
[22:52] <Steven> Highlander, well, thats a HUGE change of the game really.. adjust the number of ally members aint that big i think
[22:52] <Steven> but changing it from 100 to 90.. who does it affect?
[22:52] <Steven> look at the alliances now, top 5 alliances, maybe top 6..
[22:53] <Steven> means maybe 30-40 players that wont fit in the top 5..
[22:53] <Highlander> alliances are ruining the game for small planets
[22:53] <Steven> well.. alliances are the game in many ways too
[22:54] <Highlander> the rapeover
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[22:54] <Steven> i like having alliances
[22:54] <Highlander> i still fancy the idea of only two alliances in a round, team red and team blue:D
[22:54] <Steven> but i think they should be smaller, and also smaller galaxies
[22:55] <Steven> i think smaller galaxies, like 10 members, 15 max, would give more galaxies a shot at making a good round
[22:55] <Highlander> or maybe alliances by race, that would make it a bit star trekky lol
[22:55] <AndroX> in that case they could create 'nations' - or base it on the races, as in race wars.
[22:55] <Highlander> race wars would be nice for havoc
[22:56] <AndroX> it would be something to test, not sure if it will work out eventualy.
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[22:56] <Highlander> with the races as of being
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[22:56] <Highlander> with caths havin steal ships
[22:57] <AndroX> problem would be balance. making sure each 'race' have same ammount of players - if u do that
[22:57] <Highlander> only ziks are standard issue
[22:57] <Angelus> return back to the original
[22:57] <Steven> i think havoc is a nice time to try things like that
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[22:57] <Highlander> where's the balance in today's alliances then:D
[22:57] * Membrivio waves to AndroX
[22:57] <Steven> AndroX, why?:P
[22:57] <Angelus> cath should not have a steal ship
[22:57] <AndroX> you meant with war and science techtree's, Angelus?
[22:57] <Steven> that would be a challenge to
[22:57] <Angelus> yeah AndroX
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[22:57] <Membrivio> ^^
[22:57] <Highlander> i miss the old mantis
[22:57] <Angelus> and fake roids
[22:58] <Highlander> salvage bringer:D
[22:58] <AndroX> the REAL astropod
[22:58] <Angelus> i miss the old taran
[22:58] <Angelus> T3 = ALL
[22:58] <Highlander> shit
[22:58] <Highlander> i'm missin my wallet!!!!!!!
[22:58] <Membrivio> i miss the old killing thief r21 style
[22:58] <Membrivio> :P
[22:58] <Highlander> oh feck i left it at the 7-11
[22:59] <AndroX> tbf, the game we have now aint bad - not bad at all. We just lack a big fat playerbase.
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[22:59] <Imm0> true :)
[22:59] <Steven> i think its a good game AndroX, very good, but i think gals are a bit too big and alliances are too big
[22:59] <Imm0> will they implement facebook R31 already?
[22:59] <Steven> but the way it is set up i like
[22:59] <Imm0> i agree
[22:59] <Imm0> on the galls
[22:59] <Angelus> races should return the the roots though, cath should be emp with crap killing ships
[22:59] <Imm0> :)
[22:59] <Angelus> terran should be killing ships
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[22:59] <Angelus> xan should be cloacked but no emp resistance
[23:00] <Angelus> zik should be practically all steal, with crap killing ships
[23:00] <Angelus> etd..... oh well
[23:00] <meapl4> lol
[23:00] <meapl4> the game is unstable as it is
[23:00] <AndroX> putting restrictions on alliances, whom are also communities, forces them to kick members. Those members wont feel at home at any alliance and therefor quit the game. The past has taught us that already. Surely people learned their lesson now? :)
[23:00] <Angelus> maybe have buddy alliances?
[23:00] <Membrivio> AndroX: but tbh this isnt working as well
[23:00] <Angelus> so you can team with an alliance, but you can only team with 1
[23:00] <HighlanderAFK> alliances are for wussies who dont have the guts to crash alone
[23:01] <Membrivio> no way smaller allies should continue like being cannon fodder right now
[23:01] <Membrivio> :/
[23:01] <AndroX> Mem, I believe SS was a good example what can happen if you do not place any form of restrictions. One alliance overpowers all and makes the other people quit playing eventualy. So yea, there has to be a middle way.
[23:02] <Steven> AndroX, but why moving limit from 100 to 90? what does it actually affect?
[23:02] <Steven> its like saying, im going on a diet, stop drinking coke, but keep eating lots of chips really
[23:02] <HighlanderAFK> what you eat
[23:02] <HighlanderAFK> dont make me shit:D
[23:02] <Membrivio> SS?
[23:02] <Membrivio> o.O
[23:03] <AndroX> it prevents alliances to get over 90 members. Making sure that the next logic step is to lower it again with 10 in a few rnds. To restrict alliance growth and to make sure more smaller alliance start playing. The more alliances there are the more people can find a 'home' to play in
[23:03] <AndroX> SS (starsphere)
[23:03] <Membrivio> i dont know that game AndroX ;p
[23:03] <Hosie> why would you reduce the alliance cap
[23:03] <Membrivio> lol
[23:03] <Hosie> this has been the most exciting round alliance wise in forever
[23:03] <Membrivio> well AndroX
[23:03] <Steven> AndroX, allright, if there is a more long term plan behind it, i follow
[23:03] <Membrivio> dont agree
[23:03] <AndroX> Hosie, to prevent stagnation because of one alliance getting TOO powerful :)
[23:03] <Membrivio> you lose alliances first
[23:03] <Membrivio> the smallies
[23:03] <Membrivio> then you wanna rebuild again?
[23:04] <Membrivio> shouldnt it be the other way around?
[23:04] <Membrivio> o.O
[23:04] <Hosie> AndroX there has been constant war ffs
[23:04] <Hosie> how is that stagnation
[23:04] <Membrivio> and Hosie maybe for you... not for all
[23:04] <Steven> i think thats what happened when i played in the beginning, back in the days with fury and legion
[23:04] <HighlanderAFK> leave alliance limit, remove buddypacks, gal disband and exiling
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[23:04] <Steven> they united and there wasnt any real point in hitting them
[23:04] <AndroX> Hosie, ofc there has been. Thank god :D
[23:04] <Hosie> for the top 6 allies its been constant war
[23:04] <HighlanderAFK> the rule of "you cant choose your family, you can choose your friends" :)
[23:04] <Hosie> theres a small 30 man ally thats going to get top planet and top gal
[23:05] <AndroX> the issue, I think, at the moment is that alliance ranks are based on total score - it should be avg score. That way the smaller alliance make a better chance too.
[23:05] <Membrivio> get out of your head that the world exists of mere hardcore players, Hosie
[23:05] <Membrivio> it doesnt
[23:05] <Hosie> its not based on total score
[23:05] <Hosie> its the top60 score
[23:06] <Membrivio> if you wanna have this game grow: you need casual players
[23:06] <HighlanderAFK> what's casual about being online all the time waking up middle of the night
[23:06] <Hosie> how does restricting what the 'hardcore' alliances do help alliances like yours Membrivio?
[23:06] <Angelus> <AndroX> Hosie, to prevent stagnation because of one alliance getting TOO powerful :) <-- or three as the case may be
[23:06] <Membrivio> it makes the smaller alliances stand a chance
[23:06] <Membrivio> against these bigger alliances
[23:06] <AndroX> Angelus, you got the point :)
[23:06] <meapl4> oh god Hosie is talking again
[23:06] <Hosie> wouldnt you have been attacked a lot less this round because of the big ones all fighting
[23:07] <Membrivio> we now miss out 150 fleets per top 4 alli
[23:07] <Hosie> eat a penis meapl4
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[23:07] <Angelus> i could see it that if you shrink alliances you'll just get something like New Dawn becoming two seperate sub-alliances... "New" and "Dawn"
[23:07] <Membrivio> we dont even stand mathematically a chance, Hosie
[23:07] <Hosie> you never have tbh
[23:08] <Angelus> is there any time limit between leaving one alliance and joining another?
[23:08] <HighlanderAFK> in a game where only 1 of 1600 can be first you expect a lot Membrivio :D
[23:08] <Membrivio> it is about the theoretical chance, Hosie
[23:08] <Steven> Hosie, what kinda attitude is that?
[23:08] <AndroX> in any war - real or game - people first take on the smaller enemies to grow and boost morale. That way the small alliances wont stand a chance vs the big(ger) alliances. It will never change. Simple fact. As soon as PAteam, or you lot, come up with an idea to make sure that can not happen, then the game can evolve again
[23:08] <Membrivio> i expect a chance highlander
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[23:08] <Membrivio> that is all
[23:08] <Angelus> AndroX, i stick with what i just said
[23:08] <Hosie> if you lower the alliance limit your just going to lose players that get kicked from their ally
[23:08] <HighlanderAFK> join asc then:D
[23:08] <Membrivio> a theoretical chance
[23:08] <HighlanderAFK> oh not asc
[23:09] <HighlanderAFK> they're shit
[23:09] <Hosie> and the orbits of the game will still get fucked over
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[23:09] <Membrivio> we wont be
[23:09] <AndroX> Angelus?
[23:09] <Membrivio> or less than now
[23:09] <AndroX> ah, splitting up
[23:09] <Membrivio> anyways... 2 perspectives
[23:09] <Membrivio> not reconcilable
[23:09] <HighlanderAFK> would be also nice if you removed that intel crap and introduced the ally tag in galaxy view
[23:09] <AndroX> that will go for a few rnds - after that they will fight eachother too. I believe history taught us that with LOST and LOST2K too ;)
[23:10] <Membrivio> are you an encyclopedia, AndroX ?
[23:10] <Membrivio> ;p
[23:10] <AndroX> and back then there werent alliance limits yet. :)
[23:10] <Membrivio> or just old ;p
[23:10] <Membrivio> :D
[23:10] <Hosie> what would you like the alliance tag to be Membrivio?
[23:10] <Angelus> if you end up with "New" and "Dawn" what's to stop them having the best people in "New" and the not so good people in "Dawn" and then keep trading people between the two?
[23:10] <AndroX> both, mem :P
[23:10] <Membrivio> i would like it to be 50 or 60.
[23:10] <AndroX> Angelus, it used to be like that for most respected alliances. They had the real core players, and a junior wing.
[23:10] <Hosie> tag limit*
[23:11] <Membrivio> all counted
[23:11] <AndroX> where people got tested and trained to play pa, if good enough you could join the big alliance
[23:11] <AndroX> its what made the game big
[23:11] <AndroX> as it got ALOT of player that way
[23:11] <AndroX> :)
[23:11] <Angelus> that's why they need to shrink alliances again
[23:11] <Angelus> take it to 50
[23:11] <HighlanderAFK> remove all bcalc, no public access to ship stats, learn on the fly:D
[23:11] <Hosie> the counted score is allready 60 Membrivio
[23:12] <Angelus> nah HighlanderAFK, that i don't like
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[23:12] <AndroX> hmm, I believe it was a few rnds back that 1up made top 2 with half the member count of #1 alliance?
[23:12] <HighlanderAFK> i like bcalcs too
[23:12] <HighlanderAFK> :)
[23:12] <AndroX> so member base doesnt really do anything if hardcore players stick together
[23:13] <Steven> Hosie, yeah, counted score is 60, but how hard is it to land on an for example, asc target, compared to orbit? not only because of activity, but also because there are 40 people more able to offer defence..
[23:13] <AndroX> what you saw 3 rnds ago with the restriction on alliance members is that there were out of tag planets, shitloads.
[23:13] <Hosie> how much harder is it to land on a dlr target as opposed to an orbit target
[23:13] <AndroX> so they can't prevent it, not even with a REAL active MH team.
[23:13] <Hosie> and orbit has more planets to defend with
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[23:14] <Hosie> so your theory is flawed because some alliances are allways going to suck
[23:14] <Angelus>  <AndroX> hmm, I believe it was a few rnds back that 1up made top 2 with half the member count of #1 alliance? <-- DLR isn't doing too bad either
[23:14] <Hosie> sorry if that sounds harsh :/
[23:14] <HighlanderAFK> public alliance tags, no buddypacks, and a 3 att/def fleets per target/tick limit
[23:14] <AndroX> I have no knowledge of current game, not playing myself. And been a bit out of the loop because my inet was down for 3 whole weeks :S
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[23:14] <Hosie> 3 att fleets highlander
[23:14] <Hosie> lol
[23:14] <Angelus> well AndroX, DLR has 22 members and is 9th
[23:14] <Hosie> yeah make it impossible to roid big planets
[23:15] <AndroX> and it went to perform well AFTEr you kicked CBA from DLR?
[23:15] <Hosie> with top gal and top planet Angelus
[23:15] <Angelus> the alliance above it has 59 and the one below it has 48
[23:15] <Steven> Hosie, well, your opinions and the things you say, i dont have any problems of seeing it, but i understand why somebody further up said, oh no, hosie is talking again.. you're not very good at presenting what u are saying, you make it sound - im superior, listen to me..
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[23:15] <Steven> at least thats how it made me feel :P
[23:15] <Angelus> Hosie, i'm not counting that, it just proves AndroX's point that any alliance can make it to top 10 if they play well
[23:16] <HighlanderAFK> there should be some continuinity of this game
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[23:16] <Hosie> Your dismissing my opinion because of what meapl4 the well known channel troll has said Steven
[23:16] <Hosie> Good work!
[23:16] <AndroX> Angelus, DLR performs well due to more active players. Imagine if the alliance limit is cut to 22 members as DLR has. Then those 59 member alliance that already lose will dissapear completely as they stand no chance.
[23:16] <Hosie> Dont bother arguing with what I'm actually saying just quote meapl4
[23:16] <Steven> Hosie, nah, not at all, i've just been reading how you write things :)
[23:16] <Angelus> AndroX, that's true too
[23:17] <Steven> i see your opinions, no problems, and some of them i totally agree with, but its the way u present things :)
[23:17] <Angelus> it does show that you don't need numbers to make a good alliance though
[23:17] <Hosie> yeah well I'm trying to be a bloody diplomat here
[23:17] <Angelus> numbers help certainly, but they're not essential
[23:17] <AndroX> besides, alot of people here forget that an alliance is more then just an alliance. Its a community. These communities can break or make pa. The bigger those communities are, the more people get to know PA - the more players it will attract.
[23:17] <HighlanderAFK> there should be a smiley with boobs in the ingae forums
[23:17] <Hosie> exactly Angelus we are saying the same thing :P
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[23:17] <HighlanderAFK> or just boobs
[23:17] <HighlanderAFK> boobs and beer
[23:18] <Hosie> Everyone that was pro alliance limits seems to have stopped talking anyway :/
[23:18] <Angelus> AndroX, that's why bringing in a way for an alliance to have a wing as well would be good
[23:18] <Xsploit> boobs and beer ftw
[23:18] <AndroX> it is one of many ways
[23:18] <AndroX> if it's the good one, thats the question.
[23:18] <HighlanderAFK> id rather have xbox and sprite:P
[23:18] <Angelus> e.g. they could hve the ability to tade res between main alliance and wing, share intel, but not defence eta's
[23:19] <Membrivio> im pro alliance limits: reason = theoretical chance, you talk practical situations hosie, that is the difference
[23:19] <Membrivio> 100 member allies are not the way to go
[23:19] <AndroX> basicaly that the same thing we already have today, Angelus. Although we call it a NAP now.
[23:19] <Membrivio> coz it will end up being a game of 600 active players
[23:19] <Membrivio> and some 400 inactives
[23:19] <Membrivio> and the rest cba to play anymore
[23:19] <Membrivio> like me
[23:19] <Hosie> alliance limits hurt the growth of PA they dont do anything at all to help get new players in
[23:19] <Membrivio> :)
[23:19] <HighlanderAFK> how about you remove alliances as they are, and instad make an option of various galaxies connecting to form galaxy-bonds
[23:19] <Membrivio> like you take newbies in
[23:20] <AndroX> if this facebook thing goes on that I heard about before I went offline, then you better prepare yerself for tons of idle planets - Membrivio.
[23:20] <Membrivio> RIGHT
[23:20] <Hosie> because alliances have to be more picky about who they take in if theres limits
[23:20] <Membrivio> AndroX: i like to see that
[23:20] <HighlanderAFK> that way smaller planets ahev to be dragged into it aswel
[23:20] <Hosie> so they dont take a chance on the newb that just joined their gal
[23:20] <Membrivio> the lower alliances will disappear this way hosie
[23:20] <Angelus> <AndroX> basicaly that the same thing we already have today, Angelus. Although we call it a NAP now. <-- that should be scrapped :P
[23:20] <Membrivio> *lower tier
[23:20] <Hosie> no they wont Membrivio :/
[23:20] <Membrivio> so there will be no decent place for them to end up
[23:20] <Angelus> one alliance, one wing... any NAP being out of game but not coded into it
[23:21] <Membrivio> i think they will disappear hosie
[23:21] <Hosie> One or two might but there will allways be people that want to run the show like yourself :D
[23:21] <Membrivio> i wont be running the show anymore
[23:21] <AndroX> hmm, no they wont go Membrivio. Some people are too powerhungry to be a peon in 'some' alliance. They rather have their own alliance, no matter if it will be the last rank.
[23:21] <Steven> Hosie, the difference from your view and Membrivio's is that both me and mem are in such a smaller alliance, you aint seeing what we see.. atleast im guessing so
[23:21] <Membrivio> not in this way
[23:21] <HighlanderAFK> galaxies form alliances between eachother on a galaxy level, that way smaller planets have to be dragged into it aswell
[23:22] <Membrivio> AndroX: will it be new player friendly allies like orbit and f-crew?
[23:22] <Hosie> yeah steven I'm looking at it from an alliance thats got well over the 100 tag limit :P
[23:22] <Membrivio> and im not powerhungry hosie... i care for my orbiters
[23:22] <Membrivio> hence Im there
[23:23] <AndroX> Membrivio, there will be sub-alliance (eg: new and dawn ) or junior wings for big alliances. In those sub/junior alliance new players can learn the tricks of PA.
[23:23] <Hosie> yeah and you do a great job helping new people
[23:23] <Membrivio> not coz i wanna be teh power executing dude
[23:23] <Hosie> except the orbiter in my gal that inits to 1200 roids then gets roided and repeats :/
[23:23] <Membrivio> AndroX: will they be there?
[23:23] <Membrivio> how you know?
[23:23] <AndroX> they are already here...
[23:23] <Membrivio> on what do you base that?
[23:24] <Membrivio> next to being encyclopedic, you are also a predictor?
[23:24] <Membrivio> :P
[23:24] <AndroX> For instance, VisioN (as I was HC there so can base it on facts on that) had Origo. It was the junior wing/training squad.
[23:24] <Membrivio> when was that?
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[23:24] <AndroX> but alliances like Legion, Newdawn, Fury and even Virus had junior wings.
[23:25] <Membrivio> how many players were there then?
[23:25] <Steven> Membrivio, lots..
[23:25] <Membrivio> how many players do we now have?
[23:25] <AndroX> because there was no alliance limit, there were ALOT of players. :)
[23:25] <Membrivio> where is the game heading for?
[23:25] <Membrivio> so
[23:25] <Membrivio> if we lose alliance limits
[23:25] <Membrivio> teh game is saved!!!
[23:25] <Steven> i remember i was in virus, and in my wing alone, we were maybe 40 players, all on the "graveyard" shift
[23:25] <Membrivio> im interested AndroX
[23:25] <Membrivio> :P
[23:25] <Membrivio> sorry being sarcastic
[23:26] <Membrivio> you know I like you AndroX
[23:26] <Membrivio> but now I think you live in a bubble
[23:26] <Membrivio> :P
[23:26] <Membrivio> of historic evidence
[23:26] <AndroX> hmm, I wish it was that simple Membrivio. But seeing browser games as these are not that well on the market anymore - I think PA lost its chance when it a) got P2P and b) added limits.
[23:26] <Membrivio> i think a) was the biggest factor
[23:26] <Membrivio> tbh
[23:26] <AndroX> and c) advertisement failure
[23:27] <Membrivio> limits can be lessened if more players show up
[23:27] <Membrivio> it should have flexibilty
[23:27] <Membrivio> it being PA
[23:27] <Membrivio> now it flies like teh wind
[23:27] <Membrivio> without any direction
[23:27] <AndroX> Im not saying that any form of limitations are bad. Just the one that got installed several rnds ago kinda killed the options we have today.
[23:27] <Membrivio> ow now we do 100 member alliances
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[23:27] <Membrivio> etc
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[23:28] <Angelus> <AndroX> Membrivio, there will be sub-alliance (eg: new and dawn ) or junior wings for big alliances. In those sub/junior alliance new players can learn the tricks of PA. <-- how about this for an idea, a "junior" alliance, rather than being an alliance of its own right, is classed as a "sub" alliance, so isn't counted seperately, could even appear under alliances as the main alliance with a + next to it so you can see how the sub alliance is doing too
[23:28] <Membrivio> i think there is a serious misfit between player # and game structure
[23:28] <AndroX> Exactly my point Membrivio. They should not change it that much. It nearly changes every bloody rnd. No alliance can built a steady community in one rnd.
[23:28] <Membrivio> right AndroX
[23:28] <Membrivio> and if they wanna build something
[23:29] <Membrivio> you need to start lower than now
[23:29] <AndroX> road to rome wasnt built in one day...
[23:29] <Membrivio> imo
[23:29] <Membrivio> really?
[23:29] <Membrivio> :P
[23:29] <Membrivio> hmm Angelus that is an intersting idea
[23:29] <Angelus> so alliance X has junior alliance Y, they can trade res and intel and can't attack each other, and can transfer people between the two, but maybe "charge" them too
[23:30] <Angelus> and a charge would help stop abuse
[23:30] <AndroX> I have no opinion on what to set alliance limits to atm. I first want to see which direction the game is heading with our new owners. Because the rumours I've heard and read so far.. lets say Im not content with what is going to happen. :)
[23:30] <Membrivio> same here AndroX
[23:30] * MrSil|awy is now known as MrSilenzZz
[23:30] <Membrivio> let them start by creating a coherent vision on the game
[23:31] <Membrivio> and then create the structures along this vision
[23:31] <AndroX> there's only one vision for pa imo, and thats spinners.
[23:32] <Membrivio> ive read his posts
[23:32] <Membrivio> and I was surprised
[23:32] <Membrivio> and enjoyed his way of thinking
[23:32] <Membrivio> seemed like a smart dude
[23:32] <AndroX> when I was in dev team, along rnd 18 orso, I suggested to create a story line for PA. Where all races came from, how these wars came alive etc etc. I asked that as guideline for graphics I was willing to make. I believe there's a few good stories in the dev forums. To bad they were never actualy used. As its a good guideline for planetarion. :)
[23:32] <Membrivio> better than all teh losers we had so far
[23:33] <Membrivio> AndroX: that is something that is missed for sure
[23:33] <Membrivio> for a starters check your ship descriptions
[23:33] <Membrivio> :P
[23:33] <AndroX> hm?
[23:34] <AndroX> they have nothing to do with that. :P
[23:34] <Membrivio> they arent up to date
[23:34] <Membrivio> make it 1 coherent game...
[23:34] <Membrivio> they do
[23:34] <Membrivio> part of the story ofc
[23:34] <AndroX> my ships designs never came to PA.
[23:34] <Membrivio> ;P
[23:34] <Membrivio> if there was a story
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[23:34] <Gabriel> AndroX, wasn't there a backstory team for that kind of thing?
[23:34] <AndroX> I sold those to NetDevil and are now used in another game :)
[23:34] <AndroX> Gabriel, at some point - I believe all those that had access to the private forums could write stories.
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[23:35] <AndroX> best is to ask Appoco or the PAteam I guess. As I tend to forget ehmmm things as these.
[23:35] <Membrivio> :(
[23:36] <Angelus> You have entered an invalid username or password. Please press the back button, enter the correct details and try again.  <-- stupid PA forums :P
[23:36] <Membrivio> ah well time for sleep
[23:36] <AndroX> sleep?
[23:36] <Membrivio> yes
[23:36] <Membrivio> i have a thesis to write
[23:36] <AndroX> no late launch? or u another prelaunch abuser?
[23:36] <Membrivio> o.O
[23:36] <Membrivio> so I need sleep
[23:36] <Membrivio> :p
[23:36] <Membrivio> pl ftw!
[23:36] <Membrivio> ;p
[23:36] <AndroX> :/
[23:36] <AndroX> go sleep mate :P
[23:36] <Membrivio> works like a charm for my thesis
[23:36] <Membrivio> :D
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[23:37] <Membrivio> gn AndroX
[23:37] * Membrivio throws a book of Midas Dekkers to AndroX: I will test you tomorrow
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[23:37] <Membrivio> ;p
[23:37] <AndroX> lol
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[23:37] <AndroX> and then you telling me I am old
[23:38] <AndroX> midas dekkers.. geez
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[23:38] <Membrivio> :D
[23:38] <AndroX> in a distant future
[23:38] <AndroX> alliances struggle
[23:38] <AndroX> for dominance
[23:38] <AndroX> in an unforgiving universe
[23:38] <AndroX> It's time..
[23:38] <AndroX> to join...
[23:38] <AndroX> the fight
[23:38] <AndroX> enter the fray
[23:39] <AndroX> Planetarion.com
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[23:39] <AndroX> hm, wrong channel - but works as well :P
[23:40] <Steven> :P