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CEH Chat dialog for itpro.tv Day 6 Monday 30th March 2015

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  1. CEH Chat dialog for itpro.tv Day 6 Monday 30th March 2015
  2.  
  3. itpro.tv or itprotv or CEH or Certified Ethical Hacker:
  4. (Pseudonymised version)
  5.        
  6. 13:05
  7. Mickey Mouse
  8. Good afternoon everyone, ready fro some more CEH
  9.        
  10. 13:12
  11. Mickey Mouse
  12. Good afternoon Aladdin and everyone else - looking forward to another session
  13.        
  14. 13:23
  15. Mickey Mouse
  16. Hi Minnie, Looks like we are an hour early it's only 08:23 in florida
  17.        
  18. 13:25
  19. Mickey Mouse
  20. Oh - daylight savings time!
  21.        
  22. 13:25
  23. Mickey Mouse
  24. Of course... doh!
  25.        
  26. 13:25
  27. Mickey Mouse
  28. Be back in an hour then
  29.        
  30. 13:25
  31. Mickey Mouse
  32. Time to catch up on 2nd part of crypto I missed, or update links thread
  33.        
  34. 13:30
  35. Mickey Mouse
  36. setup a custom url for thread: http://bit.ly/itpro-ceh-links
  37.        
  38. 13:43
  39. Mickey Mouse
  40. Good morning everyone!
  41.        
  42. 13:46
  43. Mickey Mouse
  44. Good morning
  45.        
  46. 13:56
  47. Mickey Mouse
  48. Good afternoon Goofy and Chip
  49.        
  50. 13:56
  51. Mickey Mouse
  52. Do you think this is the physical drop box that Donald showed us? http://www.minipwner.com/
  53.        
  54. 13:56
  55. Mickey Mouse
  56. Good afternoon to you : )
  57.        
  58. 13:58
  59. Mickey Mouse
  60. Good morning everyone
  61.        
  62. 13:58
  63. Mickey Mouse
  64. and good afternoon to my Euro neighbors
  65.        
  66. 13:58
  67. Mickey Mouse
  68. I must have missed that part.
  69.        
  70. 13:59
  71. Mickey Mouse
  72. Good morning
  73.        
  74. 13:59
  75. Mickey Mouse
  76. Hi Scott
  77.        
  78. 13:59
  79. Mickey Mouse
  80. @Chip it was in the Maintaining access to the network part when he talked about physical options
  81.        
  82. 13:59
  83. Mickey Mouse
  84. Thanks for the CEH useful links, Minnie. What a wealth of great information.
  85.        
  86. 13:59
  87. Mickey Mouse
  88. All contributions from Donald and you guys in the chat room
  89.        
  90. 14:02
  91. Mickey Mouse
  92. @Minnie I think it is, that is the website that I wrote down in my notes when he was talking about it, but I don't remember if he mentioned the link or if it was someone in the chat.
  93.        
  94. 14:02
  95. Mickey Mouse
  96. Gr33tz & Howdy
  97.        
  98. 14:02
  99. Mickey Mouse
  100. I don't think he mentioned it and I must have missed it in chat
  101.        
  102. 14:03
  103. Mickey Mouse
  104. @Louie hi
  105.        
  106. 14:05
  107. Mickey Mouse
  108. Does anyone have the chat logs for Friday and Thursday?
  109.        
  110. 14:05
  111. Mickey Mouse
  112. Good Morning
  113.        
  114. 14:08
  115. Mickey Mouse
  116. got my book in, unfortunately, they left it in the rain
  117.        
  118. 14:08
  119. Mickey Mouse
  120. Good Morning All
  121.        
  122. 14:09
  123. Mickey Mouse
  124. I wish I hadn't stayed up so late, working on something for a friend. I feel like I'm in a somnabulistic stupor. Caffeine time I guess, before we get started.
  125.        
  126. 14:10
  127. Mickey Mouse
  128. @Chip sounds like a typical Monday to me  
  129.        
  130. 14:10
  131. Mickey Mouse
  132. @. Thursday here, not posted Friday's yet, needs anonymising - https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/351/ceh-chat-logs-privacy-and-links
  133.        
  134. 14:11
  135. Mickey Mouse
  136. ha ha Duey
  137.        
  138. 14:11
  139. Mickey Mouse
  140. TY Minnie
  141.        
  142. 14:12
  143. Mickey Mouse
  144. Morning everyone!!!
  145.        
  146. 14:13
  147. Mickey Mouse
  148. Morning @.
  149.        
  150. 14:13
  151. Mickey Mouse
  152. I've missed everything since Wednesday (work) GOt to get caught up.
  153.        
  154. 14:15
  155. Mickey Mouse
  156. Oh I wish I was at home for this week, I have a feeling work is going to keep me busy
  157.        
  158. 14:16
  159. Mickey Mouse
  160. Resumes at 1:30PM?
  161.        
  162. 14:16
  163. Mickey Mouse
  164. Yes
  165.        
  166. 14:16
  167. Mickey Mouse
  168. LOL whoops
  169.        
  170. 14:17
  171. Mickey Mouse
  172.  
  173.        
  174. 14:17
  175. Mickey Mouse
  176. Good morning everyone
  177.        
  178. 14:17
  179. Mickey Mouse
  180. I'm in the middle of setting up the board. enjoy the show
  181.        
  182. 14:17
  183. Mickey Mouse
  184. Good morning
  185.        
  186. 14:17
  187. Mickey Mouse
  188. Morning @Chip
  189.        
  190. 14:17
  191. Mickey Mouse
  192. I see whut you did thar @.
  193.        
  194. 14:17
  195. Mickey Mouse
  196. @Donald So looks like Habs are in the play offs. Go Pens!!!!
  197.        
  198. 14:17
  199. Mickey Mouse
  200. which starts at 930!
  201.        
  202. 14:20
  203. Mickey Mouse
  204. Habs ot Lightning tonight??
  205.        
  206. 14:21
  207. Mickey Mouse
  208. Yes they are.
  209.        
  210. 14:22
  211. Mickey Mouse
  212. morning all!
  213.        
  214. 14:29
  215. Mickey Mouse
  216. Good Morning, sometimes before I would be the first one on chat, now it goes back four pages before I am here.
  217.        
  218. 14:30
  219. Mickey Mouse
  220. @. - updated the thread with link for Friday think I got rid of most names https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/351/ceh-chat-logs-privacy-and-links
  221.        
  222. 14:30
  223. Mickey Mouse
  224. @. and @Duey - hi guys
  225.        
  226. 14:30
  227. Mickey Mouse
  228. Hi Minnie!
  229.        
  230. 14:31
  231. Mickey Mouse
  232. Also, I've updated this page: http://bit.ly/itpro-ceh-links (resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links )
  233.        
  234. 14:31
  235. Mickey Mouse
  236. Minnie, you deserve another gold star!
  237.        
  238. 14:32
  239. Mickey Mouse
  240. Good morning everyone
  241.        
  242. 14:33
  243. Mickey Mouse
  244. Just adding steganography links now
  245.        
  246. 14:34
  247. Mickey Mouse
  248. Hi Duey
  249.        
  250. 14:35
  251. Mickey Mouse
  252. Did I already say I got my study guide, but the delivery guy left it in the rain!
  253.        
  254. 14:36
  255. Mickey Mouse
  256. booo delivery!
  257.        
  258. 14:36
  259. Mickey Mouse
  260. That deserves a refund
  261.        
  262. 14:36
  263. Mickey Mouse
  264. @. - oh no, that's bad of them!
  265.        
  266. 14:38
  267. Mickey Mouse
  268. Good morning all!!!
  269.        
  270. 14:38
  271. Mickey Mouse
  272. Hi .
  273.        
  274. 14:38
  275. Mickey Mouse
  276. Morning .
  277.        
  278. 14:38
  279. Mickey Mouse
  280.  
  281.        
  282. 14:39
  283. Mickey Mouse
  284. Hi guys
  285.        
  286. 14:39
  287. Mickey Mouse
  288. Good morning Mike and Donald
  289.        
  290. 14:39
  291. Mickey Mouse
  292. Hello Aramis, Minnie
  293.        
  294. 14:39
  295. Mickey Mouse
  296. Chara
  297.        
  298. 14:40
  299. Mickey Mouse
  300. @Huey... yes, Minnie does deserve another gold star. I need her to organize my life. lol
  301.        
  302. 14:40
  303. Mickey Mouse
  304. G-Day all!
  305.        
  306. 14:40
  307. Mickey Mouse
  308. LOL @Chip
  309.        
  310. 14:41
  311. Mickey Mouse
  312. @Minnie great notes section in forum; Could you add http://securityweekly.com/ to you list of podcast.
  313.        
  314. 14:41
  315. Mickey Mouse
  316. And we're off !
  317.        
  318. 14:41
  319. Mickey Mouse
  320. yeah
  321.        
  322. 14:42
  323. Mickey Mouse
  324. Give away few more books
  325.        
  326. 14:42
  327. Mickey Mouse
  328. Sure I could use a hardcopy.
  329.        
  330. 14:43
  331. Mickey Mouse
  332. Anybody has a soft copy?
  333.        
  334. 14:44
  335. Mickey Mouse
  336. 90% of crap pre-loaded on most phones.
  337.        
  338. 14:44
  339. Mickey Mouse
  340. amazon is the cheapest ebook at 28
  341.        
  342. 14:44
  343. Mickey Mouse
  344. @. Even if they did you'd still be expected to purchase your own legal copy - ethics and all that
  345.        
  346. 14:44
  347. Mickey Mouse
  348. but my friend bough the google play version and it works better on android tablets
  349.        
  350. 14:44
  351. Mickey Mouse
  352. *bought
  353.        
  354. 14:44
  355. Mickey Mouse
  356. I love my Monday morning spam, this time an "invoice" for $75 USD to submit our site to search engines, saying to go to their "secure payment" site (with an http://).
  357.        
  358. 14:45
  359. Mickey Mouse
  360. Lol Minnie
  361.        
  362. 14:45
  363. Mickey Mouse
  364. yeah sorry about that Duey... I sent you the wrong details... it's actually $150 and i need to get you new accoutn numbers
  365.        
  366. 14:46
  367. Mickey Mouse
  368. I love Rootkits
  369.        
  370. 14:47
  371. Mickey Mouse
  372. They're harvesting my ARIN data, even better is when I get spam on my abuse e-mail address.
  373.        
  374. 14:48
  375. Mickey Mouse
  376. Here's Duey, on his Chromebox again, asking what a virus is.
  377.        
  378. 14:49
  379. Mickey Mouse
  380. EXE
  381.        
  382. 14:49
  383. Mickey Mouse
  384. it's something that written mainly for Microsoft products @Duey
  385.        
  386. 14:49
  387. Mickey Mouse
  388. @Duey - It's called Google
  389.        
  390. 14:49
  391. Mickey Mouse
  392. @Duey - Sorry I suppose that's more spyware
  393.        
  394. 14:49
  395. Mickey Mouse
  396. Yeah, sometimes the Chrome OS builds cause problems.
  397.        
  398. 14:50
  399. Mickey Mouse
  400. Althought... mac is coming up... and while there are a lot of viruses on linux... they are much more difficult to implement... especially with SELinux
  401.        
  402. 14:50
  403. Mickey Mouse
  404. Question: Is there a virus taxonomy tree Donald recommends to look at?
  405.        
  406. 14:50
  407. Mickey Mouse
  408. Good question
  409.        
  410. 14:50
  411. Mickey Mouse
  412. ^^
  413.        
  414. 14:51
  415. Mickey Mouse
  416. Morning all!
  417.        
  418. 14:51
  419. Mickey Mouse
  420. Hi Goofy
  421.        
  422. 14:51
  423. Mickey Mouse
  424. Good morning Goofy
  425.        
  426. 14:51
  427. Mickey Mouse
  428. Aha - http://ictvonline.org/virustaxonomy.asp
  429.        
  430. 14:51
  431. Mickey Mouse
  432. Hi Goofy, Chip
  433.        
  434. 14:51
  435. Mickey Mouse
  436. I saw somebody wearing gloves while using the system!!!
  437.        
  438. 14:51
  439. Mickey Mouse
  440. IGNORE
  441.        
  442. 14:51
  443. Mickey Mouse
  444. I forgot to specify computer viruses
  445.        
  446. 14:52
  447. Mickey Mouse
  448. lol wrong type of virus
  449.        
  450. 14:52
  451. Mickey Mouse
  452. Thanks Minnie!
  453.        
  454. 14:52
  455. Mickey Mouse
  456. and yes thanks
  457.        
  458. 14:52
  459. Mickey Mouse
  460. I recently dropped down to a single monitor... I'm really missing that second/third screen
  461.        
  462. 14:52
  463. Mickey Mouse
  464. just got the SMS \o/
  465.        
  466. 14:52
  467. Mickey Mouse
  468. This one: http://www.omnisecu.com/security/types-of-computer-viruses.php
  469.        
  470. 14:52
  471. Mickey Mouse
  472. Hey Aramis : )
  473.        
  474. 14:53
  475. Mickey Mouse
  476. Thanks Captain my captain
  477.        
  478. 14:56
  479. Mickey Mouse
  480. Internet storm center
  481.        
  482. 14:56
  483. Mickey Mouse
  484. https://isc.sans.edu/infocon.html
  485.        
  486. 14:56
  487. Mickey Mouse
  488. Almost 15 years ago with Code Red.
  489.        
  490. 14:58
  491. Mickey Mouse
  492. I remember battling CodeRed when I was an IT guy
  493.        
  494. 14:58
  495. Mickey Mouse
  496. run amuck
  497.        
  498. 14:58
  499. Mickey Mouse
  500. Yup, me too, was up all night on that one.
  501.        
  502. 14:59
  503. Mickey Mouse
  504. indeed
  505.        
  506. 14:59
  507. Mickey Mouse
  508. Does ransomeware fall under the rubric of malware
  509.        
  510. 14:59
  511. Mickey Mouse
  512. Took our servers down for two days, we had to disconnect everything.
  513.        
  514. 14:59
  515. Mickey Mouse
  516. http://www.caida.org/research/security/code-red/code-red-large.png
  517.        
  518. 14:59
  519. Mickey Mouse
  520. Kind of relevant in case anyone doesn't already know this resource: http://map.ipviking.com/
  521.        
  522. 14:59
  523. Mickey Mouse
  524. He mentioned map which reminded me
  525.        
  526. 15:00
  527. Mickey Mouse
  528. @Mike P thanks , scary map
  529.        
  530. 15:00
  531. Mickey Mouse
  532. That was the site I was looking for Mike!
  533.        
  534. 15:00
  535. Mickey Mouse
  536. @Minnie , I love that map
  537.        
  538. 15:01
  539. Mickey Mouse
  540. I think that I may have made my wife mad.
  541.        
  542. 15:01
  543. Mickey Mouse
  544. Drop the bomb and rename setup.exe. Oh you want it so bad. Here you go!
  545.        
  546. 15:02
  547. Mickey Mouse
  548. The art of Obfuscation
  549.        
  550. 15:03
  551. Mickey Mouse
  552. Uh oh, Athos.
  553.        
  554. 15:04
  555. Mickey Mouse
  556. @Athos hope it's short-lived
  557.        
  558. 15:05
  559. Mickey Mouse
  560. Ut oh, warning the wife!
  561.        
  562. 15:05
  563. Mickey Mouse
  564. LOL
  565.        
  566. 15:05
  567. Mickey Mouse
  568. Or allow Ping packet outbound, get information out of an organisation by pinging an address you cotrol
  569.        
  570. 15:05
  571. Mickey Mouse
  572. yeah.... i can't think of anything... and she is 7 months pregnant so... maybe it's jsut going to be a bad day
  573.        
  574. 15:05
  575. Mickey Mouse
  576. Never good to vex a woman lol
  577.        
  578. 15:05
  579. Mickey Mouse
  580. Especially a pregnant one!
  581.        
  582. 15:05
  583. Mickey Mouse
  584. ha ha ha Minnie
  585.        
  586. 15:06
  587. Mickey Mouse
  588. very true
  589.        
  590. 15:06
  591. Mickey Mouse
  592. I would 2nd that
  593.        
  594. 15:06
  595. Mickey Mouse
  596. or when she's ovulating. lol
  597.        
  598. 15:06
  599. Mickey Mouse
  600. lol
  601.        
  602. 15:07
  603. Mickey Mouse
  604. LMAO!
  605.        
  606. 15:07
  607. Mickey Mouse
  608. ovulation virus.
  609.        
  610. 15:07
  611. Mickey Mouse
  612. ha ha ha ha
  613.        
  614. 15:08
  615. Mickey Mouse
  616. I wonder what things we could say in the chat to make either mike or Donald lose it
  617.        
  618. 15:08
  619. Mickey Mouse
  620. @Will that would be awesome!
  621.        
  622. 15:08
  623. Mickey Mouse
  624. @Athos, if this is her first baby, make sure you don't vex her while she's in labor, it won't be pretty.
  625.        
  626. 15:08
  627. Mickey Mouse
  628. I don't think I want to get on Donald's badside
  629.        
  630. 15:08
  631. Mickey Mouse
  632. LMAO!
  633.        
  634. 15:09
  635. Mickey Mouse
  636. @Chip... it's the 4th... i'm a veteran at this point
  637.        
  638. 15:09
  639. Mickey Mouse
  640. so pretty much just sit in the corner and don't say anything but yes dear
  641.        
  642. 15:09
  643. Mickey Mouse
  644. i know everything is my fault
  645.        
  646. 15:09
  647. Mickey Mouse
  648. ahhhhh good lol
  649.        
  650. 15:09
  651. Mickey Mouse
  652. exactly
  653.        
  654. 15:09
  655. Mickey Mouse
  656. Could run for the hills
  657.        
  658. 15:10
  659. Mickey Mouse
  660. It is a UK company, that manages for what is listed as "Sony" for the IP of "Better Call Saul"?
  661.        
  662. 15:11
  663. Mickey Mouse
  664. lol
  665.        
  666. 15:11
  667. Mickey Mouse
  668. I received an abuse notice for one of our customers.
  669.        
  670. 15:11
  671. Mickey Mouse
  672. lol @ Chip sit in corner comment
  673.        
  674. 15:14
  675. Mickey Mouse
  676. : )
  677.        
  678. 15:14
  679. Mickey Mouse
  680. 38 mostly Chinese spams caught in the filter for my abuse desk reporting....
  681.        
  682. 15:15
  683. Mickey Mouse
  684. Including one from "Microsoft Corporation" with an address of micro4@aol.com
  685.        
  686. 15:15
  687. Mickey Mouse
  688. @Dave funny
  689.        
  690. 15:16
  691. Mickey Mouse
  692. If anyone is interested in my presentation after it given, I can email you guys a copy.
  693.        
  694. 15:16
  695. Mickey Mouse
  696. too funny, Duey
  697.        
  698. 15:16
  699. Mickey Mouse
  700. Sure
  701.        
  702. 15:16
  703. Mickey Mouse
  704. That would be great, Goofy
  705.        
  706. 15:16
  707. Mickey Mouse
  708. It will be after 4/11.
  709.        
  710. 15:17
  711. Mickey Mouse
  712. Macros disabled I assume Goofy
  713.        
  714. 15:17
  715. Mickey Mouse
  716. Would be ironic if you infected everyone on the CEH chatroom
  717.        
  718. 15:17
  719. Mickey Mouse
  720. this just broke guys : http://rt.com/usa/245273-nsa-headquarters-shots-fired/
  721.        
  722. 15:18
  723. Mickey Mouse
  724. A crafted URL can do that.
  725.        
  726. 15:18
  727. Mickey Mouse
  728. Good list worth subscribing to https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/bulletins/SB15-089
  729.        
  730. 15:18
  731. Mickey Mouse
  732. @thanks Goofy reading now
  733.        
  734. 15:19
  735. Mickey Mouse
  736. @Goofy I missed what your presentation is on?
  737.        
  738. 15:19
  739. Mickey Mouse
  740. Damn power glitch.
  741.        
  742. 15:19
  743. Mickey Mouse
  744. Captain my captain - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GnX3ZhuAg
  745.        
  746. 15:19
  747. Mickey Mouse
  748. @Aladdin The CV list can become bloated and overwhelmed. That is one of the reasons why I don't subscribe.
  749.        
  750. 15:20
  751. Mickey Mouse
  752. @Minnie Global Surveillance.
  753.        
  754. 15:20
  755. Mickey Mouse
  756. So someone is able to get a helicopter (or drone) close to the NSA for news footage?
  757.        
  758. 15:20
  759. Mickey Mouse
  760. I agree , that list is just what been added in the last week
  761.        
  762. 15:20
  763. Mickey Mouse
  764. @Goofy in which case I'd be interested too
  765.        
  766. 15:20
  767. Mickey Mouse
  768. I remember Klez, ran rampant in my Dorm in college
  769.        
  770. 15:21
  771. Mickey Mouse
  772. @Mike P - nice one
  773.        
  774. 15:21
  775. Mickey Mouse
  776. I'll email it not posted in social media. Too crazy
  777.        
  778. 15:21
  779. Mickey Mouse
  780. I think the presenters miss a lot of the links we are giving them
  781.        
  782. 15:21
  783. Mickey Mouse
  784. Awesome stuff @Captain my captain
  785.        
  786. 15:22
  787. Mickey Mouse
  788. @ Donald yes pretty cool!
  789.        
  790. 15:22
  791. Mickey Mouse
  792. I love that link! I Shared that!
  793.        
  794. 15:22
  795. Mickey Mouse
  796. @Mike P perhaps a slight time lag
  797.        
  798. 15:22
  799. Mickey Mouse
  800. I ran one ip viking at work on a dedicated screen when I was there.
  801.        
  802. 15:22
  803. Mickey Mouse
  804. ipviking
  805.        
  806. 15:23
  807. Mickey Mouse
  808. I rememember a little about Klez too Scott, but Code Red was much worse for me.
  809.        
  810. 15:23
  811. Mickey Mouse
  812. Call me crazy but I have a #NSA feed in my tweekdeck. That's how I know what is going down.
  813.        
  814. 15:24
  815. Mickey Mouse
  816. His name is Giorgi or something like that.
  817.        
  818. 15:24
  819. Mickey Mouse
  820. That dude looks like a Kazon!
  821.        
  822. 15:25
  823. Mickey Mouse
  824. Hey @Donald: You'll love this! https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/536214_10200974108464860_1459185104_n.jpg?oh=206f914830fef8ea910beac855546d9c&oe=5570D61B
  825.        
  826. 15:25
  827. Mickey Mouse
  828. its a fb photo, sorry
  829.        
  830. 15:25
  831. Mickey Mouse
  832. LOL
  833.        
  834. 15:27
  835. Mickey Mouse
  836. Ancient alien dude that looks like a Kazon. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2435429/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t2
  837.        
  838. 15:27
  839. Mickey Mouse
  840. How do you change you picture in the chat window?
  841.        
  842. 15:28
  843. Mickey Mouse
  844. You have goto Gravatar and change it there. Refresh the chatroom here.
  845.        
  846. 15:28
  847. Mickey Mouse
  848. Gravatar.com
  849.        
  850. 15:29
  851. Mickey Mouse
  852. Thanks
  853.        
  854. 15:29
  855. Mickey Mouse
  856. Your PC is stone
  857.        
  858. 15:29
  859. Mickey Mouse
  860. The ones that would delete an MFM hard drive.
  861.        
  862. 15:30
  863. Mickey Mouse
  864. fish virus plays ping-pong in your bios.
  865.        
  866. 15:30
  867. Mickey Mouse
  868. For anyone who missed the link I'm updating with URLs: http://bit.ly/itpro-ceh-links resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links
  869.        
  870. 15:31
  871. Mickey Mouse
  872. Viruses were even before Internet, and started with BBS and diskette trades.
  873.        
  874. 15:32
  875. Mickey Mouse
  876. In my time there were couriers that sported warez including viruses for sale or trade.
  877.        
  878. 15:32
  879. Mickey Mouse
  880. Lotus 123
  881.        
  882. 15:32
  883. Mickey Mouse
  884. Thanks so much, Minnie
  885.        
  886. 15:33
  887. Mickey Mouse
  888. VBA - YUK!
  889.        
  890. 15:34
  891. Mickey Mouse
  892. Anti-virus software started coming out in 1987.
  893.        
  894. 15:34
  895. Mickey Mouse
  896. vba is extremely helpful in the business work though Mike
  897.        
  898. 15:34
  899. Mickey Mouse
  900. Goofy Ortega, didn't you take the CEH test this past weekend?
  901.        
  902. 15:35
  903. Mickey Mouse
  904. I'm sure it is Athos. It's just yuk though
  905.        
  906. 15:35
  907. Mickey Mouse
  908. sql website injections?
  909.        
  910. 15:37
  911. Mickey Mouse
  912. @Fab. I wish...   I don't have $600 laying around.
  913.        
  914. 15:37
  915. Mickey Mouse
  916. 600 ouch
  917.        
  918. 15:37
  919. Mickey Mouse
  920. ok, it was someone that did I don't remember.
  921.        
  922. 15:37
  923. Mickey Mouse
  924. Porthos
  925.        
  926. 15:37
  927. Mickey Mouse
  928. ok
  929.        
  930. 15:38
  931. Mickey Mouse
  932. is Porthos today here?
  933.        
  934. 15:38
  935. Mickey Mouse
  936. @Porthos? He was in this chatroom?
  937.        
  938. 15:38
  939. Mickey Mouse
  940. It takes about 6 months for virus defs to be updated
  941.        
  942. 15:38
  943. Mickey Mouse
  944. @Donald Is a shell virus the same as an armoured virus?
  945.        
  946. 15:38
  947. Mickey Mouse
  948. I mena if you are prepared... considering how you easily it makes it for you to get a security job ... 600 is not thatm uch
  949.        
  950. 15:39
  951. Mickey Mouse
  952. Anyone know of free testing online
  953.        
  954. 15:39
  955. Mickey Mouse
  956. @Athos true short sighted of me
  957.        
  958. 15:39
  959. Mickey Mouse
  960. QUESTION: Is a shell virus the same as an armoured virus? I'm unclear of difference ebtween stealth and these
  961.        
  962. 15:40
  963. Mickey Mouse
  964. yes you can pay someone to write a good one for you.
  965.        
  966. 15:40
  967. Mickey Mouse
  968. I got some from torrents lol
  969.        
  970. 15:41
  971. Mickey Mouse
  972. ^^ cant read that... looks obfuscated :d
  973.        
  974. 15:41
  975. Mickey Mouse
  976.  
  977.        
  978. 15:41
  979. Mickey Mouse
  980. Please check Minnie's Question above
  981.        
  982. 15:41
  983. Mickey Mouse
  984. i got a copy of Windows ME. Does that count
  985.        
  986. 15:42
  987. Mickey Mouse
  988. @Aramis yes that counts ME stands for mistake edition
  989.        
  990. 15:42
  991. Mickey Mouse
  992. Stuxnet
  993.        
  994. 15:44
  995. Mickey Mouse
  996. lol
  997.        
  998. 15:44
  999. Mickey Mouse
  1000. Thanks @Donald and @Athos
  1001.        
  1002. 15:45
  1003. Mickey Mouse
  1004. Michelangelo had to wait centuries for a virus to be named after him.
  1005.        
  1006. 15:45
  1007. Mickey Mouse
  1008. looks like we are down to the peoploe that really want to learn this stuff. I noticed there are less people in the chat
  1009.        
  1010. 15:45
  1011. Mickey Mouse
  1012. Regin is another one.
  1013.        
  1014. 15:46
  1015. Mickey Mouse
  1016. Winlove?
  1017.        
  1018. 15:46
  1019. Mickey Mouse
  1020. I'm here, just at work, so much less involved in chat. Guess my chances at a book have gone down this week
  1021.        
  1022. 15:46
  1023. Mickey Mouse
  1024. The best stuxnet book I've read: http://www.amazon.com/Countdown-Zero-Day-Stuxnet-Digital/dp/077043617X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427726761&sr=8-1&keywords=stuxnet
  1025.        
  1026. 15:46
  1027. Mickey Mouse
  1028. @Goofy SteveG was SO impressed with the elegance of regin wasn't he?
  1029.        
  1030. 15:46
  1031. Mickey Mouse
  1032. I meant total users. The scroll bar is much larger indicating fewer participants
  1033.        
  1034. 15:47
  1035. Mickey Mouse
  1036. @Minnie. He was and Regin was entire OS and packed with encryption.
  1037.        
  1038. 15:47
  1039. Mickey Mouse
  1040. @Goofy *nods*
  1041.        
  1042. 15:48
  1043. Mickey Mouse
  1044. Good overview of REgin: https://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/enterprise/media/security_response/whitepapers/regin-analysis.pdf
  1045.        
  1046. 15:48
  1047. Mickey Mouse
  1048. It's so sophisticated, it's no joke.
  1049.        
  1050. 15:48
  1051. Mickey Mouse
  1052. Virginia Tech says that 70% of the virus are created by governments
  1053.        
  1054. 15:48
  1055. Mickey Mouse
  1056. @. thanks
  1057.        
  1058. 15:48
  1059. Mickey Mouse
  1060. Mainly btw China, Russia, Israel and USA
  1061.        
  1062. 15:49
  1063. Mickey Mouse
  1064. Awesome @..
  1065.        
  1066. 15:50
  1067. Mickey Mouse
  1068. @. I wouldn't doubt it.
  1069.        
  1070. 15:50
  1071. Mickey Mouse
  1072. No internet background noise.
  1073.        
  1074. 15:50
  1075. Mickey Mouse
  1076. did i miss anything in the past minute. My router jsut reset itself
  1077.        
  1078. 15:50
  1079. Mickey Mouse
  1080. @D'artagan I believe it
  1081.        
  1082. 15:51
  1083. Mickey Mouse
  1084. wow
  1085.        
  1086. 15:51
  1087. Mickey Mouse
  1088. This one is fun
  1089.        
  1090. 15:51
  1091. Mickey Mouse
  1092. It's a run away train. Exponential growth.
  1093.        
  1094. 15:51
  1095. Mickey Mouse
  1096. http://map.ipviking.com/#
  1097.        
  1098. 15:51
  1099. Mickey Mouse
  1100. That's amazing
  1101.        
  1102. 15:52
  1103. Mickey Mouse
  1104. wow
  1105.        
  1106. 15:52
  1107. Mickey Mouse
  1108. @. could you post that link please
  1109.        
  1110. 15:52
  1111. Mickey Mouse
  1112. http://www.caida.org/publications/papers/2003/sapphire/sapphire.html
  1113.        
  1114. 15:52
  1115. Mickey Mouse
  1116. I want the penny
  1117.        
  1118. 15:52
  1119. Mickey Mouse
  1120. wow, didn't know sqlslammer hit so fast
  1121.        
  1122. 15:52
  1123. Mickey Mouse
  1124. I do though think back in the early days, people didn't realise the risks. Most connected their modem directly to the internet, no virus protection, or firewall.
  1125.        
  1126. 15:52
  1127. Mickey Mouse
  1128. Thanks Minnie
  1129.        
  1130. 15:54
  1131. Mickey Mouse
  1132. cripes nope
  1133.        
  1134. 15:55
  1135. Mickey Mouse
  1136. although I think we're all off to become hermits anyway after some of the stuff you've shown us
  1137.        
  1138. 15:57
  1139. Mickey Mouse
  1140. lol Donald... wow
  1141.        
  1142. 15:57
  1143. Mickey Mouse
  1144. No matter how well you protect yourself. If a hacker wants you bad enough, they will get you.
  1145.        
  1146. 15:57
  1147. Mickey Mouse
  1148. LOL
  1149.        
  1150. 15:57
  1151. Mickey Mouse
  1152. LOL
  1153.        
  1154. 15:57
  1155. Mickey Mouse
  1156. Yep@Goofy
  1157.        
  1158. 15:57
  1159. Mickey Mouse
  1160. Thanks guys. Gotta shoot now, actually doing some MS SQL security checking and need to focus on that. Will catch the rerun tomorrow
  1161.        
  1162. 15:58
  1163. Mickey Mouse
  1164. @. Chow dude... Enjoy
  1165.        
  1166. 15:58
  1167. Mickey Mouse
  1168. @Donald what other subjects are you covering today?
  1169.        
  1170. 15:58
  1171. Mickey Mouse
  1172. @Donald - Can you talk some time off time about being a forensic investigator vs Pen Tester
  1173.        
  1174. 15:58
  1175. Mickey Mouse
  1176. @Donald - whats the Favorite AV ( best in your exp ) for home use and same question for Corp...
  1177.        
  1178. 15:58
  1179. Mickey Mouse
  1180. Actually very quickly. Any news on the labs yet?
  1181.        
  1182. 15:58
  1183. Mickey Mouse
  1184. Does having a trojan stop you getting a virus?
  1185.        
  1186. 15:58
  1187. Mickey Mouse
  1188. @Captain my captain- Definitely!
  1189.        
  1190. 15:59
  1191. Mickey Mouse
  1192. @R - Not at all. If anything might make it easier to get one
  1193.        
  1194. 15:59
  1195. Mickey Mouse
  1196. @PT - good question
  1197.        
  1198. 16:00
  1199. Mickey Mouse
  1200. Trojan tells his friends to come on over.
  1201.        
  1202. 16:00
  1203. Mickey Mouse
  1204. I like GFI/Vipre
  1205.        
  1206. 16:00
  1207. Mickey Mouse
  1208. That was a brand reference...
  1209.        
  1210. 16:01
  1211. Mickey Mouse
  1212. https://www.skillset.com/certifications
  1213.        
  1214. 16:01
  1215. Mickey Mouse
  1216. I'm using Vipre.. seems to block what it needs to. But a little difficult to manage
  1217.        
  1218. 16:01
  1219. Mickey Mouse
  1220. That will give you a 2150 question practice test
  1221.        
  1222. 16:01
  1223. Mickey Mouse
  1224. *250
  1225.        
  1226. 16:01
  1227. Mickey Mouse
  1228. it also has a few others
  1229.        
  1230. 16:02
  1231. Mickey Mouse
  1232. The only caveat is that https://www.skillset.com/certifications requires a free account
  1233.        
  1234. 16:03
  1235. Mickey Mouse
  1236. :@R. I've been using it for years, at home. I don't have too many issues myself. But I put it on my mother's pc and to help her often
  1237.        
  1238. 16:03
  1239. Mickey Mouse
  1240. great site, thanks Athos S.
  1241.        
  1242. 16:04
  1243. Mickey Mouse
  1244. Thanks Athos
  1245.        
  1246. 16:04
  1247. Mickey Mouse
  1248. Pentester = fun and Forensic = tedious?
  1249.        
  1250. 16:04
  1251. Mickey Mouse
  1252. @Porthos Medina, did you take the CEH test?
  1253.        
  1254. 16:05
  1255. Mickey Mouse
  1256. Pentester=before something bad happens. Forensic = after something bad happens. hehe
  1257.        
  1258. 16:06
  1259. Mickey Mouse
  1260. @Louie I hate log checking hence my saying tedious
  1261.        
  1262. 16:06
  1263. Mickey Mouse
  1264. agreed^
  1265.        
  1266. 16:06
  1267. Mickey Mouse
  1268. @Minnie, yes tedious. I know someone who is a forensic investigator with the fbi
  1269.        
  1270. 16:06
  1271. Mickey Mouse
  1272. I had a lawyer ask me to do forensics.
  1273.        
  1274. 16:06
  1275. Mickey Mouse
  1276. @D'artagan, yes I did take the Exam, I will be retaking it.
  1277.        
  1278. 16:07
  1279. Mickey Mouse
  1280. so, was it very difficult in your opinion?
  1281.        
  1282. 16:07
  1283. Mickey Mouse
  1284. yeah logs = horrible
  1285.        
  1286. 16:07
  1287. Mickey Mouse
  1288. can't stand it
  1289.        
  1290. 16:08
  1291. Mickey Mouse
  1292. @D'artagan, yes it was difficult, but after taking it I feel like my study material did not prepare me enough for the Exam
  1293.        
  1294. 16:08
  1295. Mickey Mouse
  1296. initersting..thank you.
  1297.        
  1298. 16:09
  1299. Mickey Mouse
  1300. ha,... i jsut took a 10 question quickie exam... i got 3 of 10
  1301.        
  1302. 16:10
  1303. Mickey Mouse
  1304. ouch
  1305.        
  1306. 16:10
  1307. Mickey Mouse
  1308. <--- organised but still not sure about forensics, need to learn more to make a decision I guess
  1309.        
  1310. 16:10
  1311. Mickey Mouse
  1312. @Porthos sorry it didn't go as hoped. What material did you use to prep beforehand?
  1313.        
  1314. 16:11
  1315. Mickey Mouse
  1316. LOL @Donald @Captain my captain
  1317.        
  1318. 16:11
  1319. Mickey Mouse
  1320. so, forensics is the discipline that combines elements of law and computer science to collect and analyze data from computer systems, networks, wireless communications and storage devices in a way that is admissible as evidence in a court of law.
  1321.        
  1322. 16:12
  1323. Mickey Mouse
  1324. @Minnie, I used the AIO written by Matt Walker, and some random CEH Exam prep apps.
  1325.        
  1326. 16:12
  1327. Mickey Mouse
  1328. I also took the EC-Council Course
  1329.        
  1330. 16:12
  1331. Mickey Mouse
  1332. I know Captain my captain. I said that I need Minnie to organize my life.
  1333.        
  1334. 16:12
  1335. Mickey Mouse
  1336. @Porthos thanks for sharing
  1337.        
  1338. 16:13
  1339. Mickey Mouse
  1340. @Chip LOL
  1341.        
  1342. 16:13
  1343. Mickey Mouse
  1344. : D
  1345.        
  1346. 16:14
  1347. Mickey Mouse
  1348. @Minnie, I am now trying out the Boson Sim for CEH, and I can say I feel better about using this tool. All the questions so far are nearly identical to the Exam I took.
  1349.        
  1350. 16:15
  1351. Mickey Mouse
  1352. @Porthos Boson makes some good stuff
  1353.        
  1354. 16:15
  1355. Mickey Mouse
  1356. @Porthos thanks
  1357.        
  1358. 16:16
  1359. Mickey Mouse
  1360. Anyone remember game.exe back in the day? Used to fullscreen and show you "Your Harddrive" being deleted, (but it was just a vid)
  1361.        
  1362. 16:17
  1363. Mickey Mouse
  1364. Yes @Scott I remember that. I got my dad with that!
  1365.        
  1366. 16:17
  1367. Mickey Mouse
  1368. <- really hope the links I've posted are the correct ones. Please can everyone use https://www.virustotal.com/ as well for anything I've linked to
  1369.        
  1370. 16:18
  1371. Mickey Mouse
  1372. yeah i loved the one that said it was deleting c:\windows whether you clicked on yes or no
  1373.        
  1374. 16:18
  1375. Mickey Mouse
  1376. It is a good verification
  1377.        
  1378. 16:18
  1379. Mickey Mouse
  1380. @Captain my captain good tip
  1381.        
  1382. 16:18
  1383. Mickey Mouse
  1384. mimikatz
  1385.        
  1386. 16:18
  1387. Mickey Mouse
  1388. that was a bane of my antiviurs for awhile
  1389.        
  1390. 16:19
  1391. Mickey Mouse
  1392. @Captain my captain - now we know where to put our viruses when someone gets in to your system
  1393.        
  1394. 16:19
  1395. Mickey Mouse
  1396. finding security tools on a normal joe workstation might be a good redflag indicator of insider threat
  1397.        
  1398. 16:19
  1399. Mickey Mouse
  1400. Cain & Able used to always gets killed on my systems
  1401.        
  1402. 16:20
  1403. Mickey Mouse
  1404. Unless they are moonlighting.
  1405.        
  1406. 16:20
  1407. Mickey Mouse
  1408. cool
  1409.        
  1410. 16:20
  1411. Mickey Mouse
  1412. @LouieG yup
  1413.        
  1414. 16:21
  1415. Mickey Mouse
  1416. @Louie yes and some users want to know why they can't install stuff.
  1417.        
  1418. 16:22
  1419. Mickey Mouse
  1420. Shannon Morse does tutorials on netcat
  1421.        
  1422. 16:27
  1423. Mickey Mouse
  1424. yeah... i know people are gonna hate me but I just run windows defender, malwarebytes, and spybot
  1425.        
  1426. 16:28
  1427. Mickey Mouse
  1428. +1 for spybot
  1429.        
  1430. 16:28
  1431. Mickey Mouse
  1432. AAAANDDD since I don't go to bad sites and whatnot... I haven't got anything
  1433.        
  1434. 16:28
  1435. Mickey Mouse
  1436. I hate flash
  1437.        
  1438. 16:28
  1439. Mickey Mouse
  1440. I use spybot and malware bytes, also
  1441.        
  1442. 16:29
  1443. Mickey Mouse
  1444. javascript loads in ads and you get infected
  1445.        
  1446. 16:29
  1447. Mickey Mouse
  1448. LMAO!!!!
  1449.        
  1450. 16:29
  1451. Mickey Mouse
  1452. this one is getting edited
  1453.        
  1454. 16:29
  1455. Mickey Mouse
  1456. +1 for spybot and malwarebytes
  1457.        
  1458. 16:29
  1459. Mickey Mouse
  1460. lol Athos
  1461.        
  1462. 16:29
  1463. Mickey Mouse
  1464. You can get infected going to yahoo
  1465.        
  1466. 16:30
  1467. Mickey Mouse
  1468. wow... good point Donald I never thought of that.
  1469.        
  1470. 16:30
  1471. Mickey Mouse
  1472. It's the ad networks that these sites carry
  1473.        
  1474. 16:30
  1475. Mickey Mouse
  1476. lol
  1477.        
  1478. 16:31
  1479. Mickey Mouse
  1480. did they speak about rootkit viruses? I came in 20 min late.
  1481.        
  1482. 16:31
  1483. Mickey Mouse
  1484. there was a site that was out there - that showed all your available $VARS$ - or %VARS% being presented to a browser Can't remember it though...
  1485.        
  1486. 16:32
  1487. Mickey Mouse
  1488. not yet D'artagan
  1489.        
  1490. 16:32
  1491. Mickey Mouse
  1492. ok
  1493.        
  1494. 16:32
  1495. Mickey Mouse
  1496. thanks @Chip
  1497.        
  1498. 16:32
  1499. Mickey Mouse
  1500. they only referenced it as being under the rubric of malware
  1501.        
  1502. 16:33
  1503. Mickey Mouse
  1504. http switchboard is what I use in chrome
  1505.        
  1506. 16:33
  1507. Mickey Mouse
  1508. ok
  1509.        
  1510. 16:34
  1511. Mickey Mouse
  1512. rootkit!
  1513.        
  1514. 16:35
  1515. Mickey Mouse
  1516. Enjoy guys
  1517.        
  1518. 16:35
  1519. Mickey Mouse
  1520. Righto - see you all later
  1521.        
  1522. 16:35
  1523. Mickey Mouse
  1524. ESET
  1525.        
  1526. 16:36
  1527. Mickey Mouse
  1528. webroot
  1529.        
  1530. 16:36
  1531. Mickey Mouse
  1532. Thanks guys enjoy lunch
  1533.        
  1534. 16:36
  1535. Mickey Mouse
  1536. ESet if you can pay if not then Defender
  1537.        
  1538. 16:36
  1539. Mickey Mouse
  1540. Microsoft Security Essentials
  1541.        
  1542. 16:36
  1543. Mickey Mouse
  1544. agreed @Goofy
  1545.        
  1546. 16:36
  1547. Mickey Mouse
  1548. windows 7 I run defender
  1549.        
  1550. 16:36
  1551. Mickey Mouse
  1552. what are you thoughts on whitelisting vs AV? seems like whitelisting is the way we are all going to have to go
  1553.        
  1554. 16:37
  1555. Mickey Mouse
  1556. on windows 8+ though... you need a good antivirus
  1557.        
  1558. 16:37
  1559. Mickey Mouse
  1560. how certain can we be that AV companies don't create viruses?
  1561.        
  1562. 16:37
  1563. Mickey Mouse
  1564. it's their business after all
  1565.        
  1566. 16:37
  1567. Mickey Mouse
  1568. @Donald... like Donald said... he got infrected at USA todya
  1569.        
  1570. 16:38
  1571. Mickey Mouse
  1572. so i doubt whitelisting is a viable a option at this point
  1573.        
  1574. 16:38
  1575. Mickey Mouse
  1576. Gotta go guys. Be back soon. chow everyone.
  1577.        
  1578. 16:38
  1579. Mickey Mouse
  1580. Are you guys watching nextgen hacker?
  1581.        
  1582. 16:39
  1583. Mickey Mouse
  1584. yep
  1585.        
  1586. 16:39
  1587. Mickey Mouse
  1588. yes
  1589.        
  1590. 16:40
  1591. Mickey Mouse
  1592. LOL
  1593.        
  1594. 16:40
  1595. Mickey Mouse
  1596. i'm watching the video now
  1597.        
  1598. 16:40
  1599. Mickey Mouse
  1600. HAHA thats funny..
  1601.        
  1602. 16:40
  1603. Mickey Mouse
  1604. Off to eat AFK
  1605.        
  1606. 16:41
  1607. Mickey Mouse
  1608. wow only 10 people visit Google at any particular time... thats good they dont need very many resources then.
  1609.        
  1610. 16:46
  1611. Mickey Mouse
  1612. lol @nextgen no words. *groan*
  1613.        
  1614. 16:59
  1615. Mickey Mouse
  1616. I'm curious if he is an epic troll... or really thinks that
  1617.        
  1618. 17:05
  1619. Mickey Mouse
  1620. Hello everyone!
  1621.        
  1622. 17:05
  1623. Mickey Mouse
  1624. welcome.
  1625.        
  1626. 17:19
  1627. Mickey Mouse
  1628. I'm enjoying my Nexus 6 Nate, six months of Google Play Music and ad-free music videos on YouTube.
  1629.        
  1630. 18:15
  1631. Mickey Mouse
  1632. nice Duey. i debated between that and my Note 4. I ended up with the Note, but that Nexus sure is sweet.
  1633.        
  1634. 18:17
  1635. Mickey Mouse
  1636. Well, the Nexus 6 is big (model number being the size of the screen), but it has over 3.5 million pixels & two front-facing speakers.
  1637.        
  1638. 18:18
  1639. Mickey Mouse
  1640. I still need to get a case to carry it on my person better.
  1641.        
  1642. 18:18
  1643. Mickey Mouse
  1644. And I'm still getting used to Lollipop 5.1
  1645.        
  1646. 18:19
  1647. Mickey Mouse
  1648. What is this I walk into. Yeah @Dave and his new phone. @Minnie thanks for the skillset site. Can't get off of it.
  1649.        
  1650. 18:19
  1651. Mickey Mouse
  1652. I'm still waiting the release of Lillipop from Verizon for the Note 4
  1653.        
  1654. 18:21
  1655. Mickey Mouse
  1656. They (Verizon) were certainly slow about releasing the Nexus 6, I wonder if it was related to having Lollipop 5.1 first.
  1657.        
  1658. 18:27
  1659. Mickey Mouse
  1660. interesting article: Github still battling largest Denial of service http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2479236,00.asp
  1661.        
  1662. 18:28
  1663. Mickey Mouse
  1664. @Dave wifi charging on the 6?
  1665.        
  1666. 18:28
  1667. Mickey Mouse
  1668. @Goofy thank Athos Saunders for that one
  1669.        
  1670. 18:28
  1671. Mickey Mouse
  1672. Ah stand corrected. Thanks @Will
  1673.        
  1674. 18:32
  1675. Mickey Mouse
  1676. @Goofy: Yes, of course I only have the connected chargers so far.
  1677.        
  1678. 18:33
  1679. Mickey Mouse
  1680. That was the main problem of my RAZR M before I was upgraded, the battery started losing the charge quickly.
  1681.        
  1682. 18:33
  1683. Mickey Mouse
  1684. Which one qi or powermat?
  1685.        
  1686. 18:33
  1687. Mickey Mouse
  1688. I'd assume qi.
  1689.        
  1690. 18:33
  1691. Mickey Mouse
  1692. Hi all
  1693.        
  1694. 18:33
  1695. Mickey Mouse
  1696. ATT does powermat.
  1697.        
  1698. 18:34
  1699. Mickey Mouse
  1700. I have a per-cup coffee machine on my desk
  1701.        
  1702. 18:34
  1703. Mickey Mouse
  1704. I'd have to look it up.
  1705.        
  1706. 18:34
  1707. Mickey Mouse
  1708. Looked at my edge plan. I'd need to up front $123 to get it today. Not gonna do it right now. I have medical bills to pay... sigh...
  1709.        
  1710. 18:36
  1711. Mickey Mouse
  1712. Is it rootkits and APTs next?
  1713.        
  1714. 18:36
  1715. Mickey Mouse
  1716. I believe so @Minnie
  1717.        
  1718. 18:37
  1719. Mickey Mouse
  1720. Thanks everyone for the page hits & post reaches. It's much appreciated.
  1721.        
  1722. 18:37
  1723. Mickey Mouse
  1724. yeeee haaawww
  1725.        
  1726. 18:39
  1727. Mickey Mouse
  1728. Looks like it is Qi Goofy.
  1729.        
  1730. 18:39
  1731. Mickey Mouse
  1732. Sweet. I have 2 qi chargers.
  1733.        
  1734. 18:40
  1735. Mickey Mouse
  1736. I know that VZ uses qi but ATT uses powermat. To competing standards.
  1737.        
  1738. 18:40
  1739. Mickey Mouse
  1740. I'm back. thanks for waiting on me guys
  1741.        
  1742. 18:40
  1743. Mickey Mouse
  1744. @Captain my captain well some of us are
  1745.        
  1746. 18:40
  1747. Mickey Mouse
  1748. Although there seems to be a number of posts that talk about wireless charging problems.
  1749.        
  1750. 18:40
  1751. Mickey Mouse
  1752. We need to talk about Regin too.
  1753.        
  1754. 18:40
  1755. Mickey Mouse
  1756. I use qi on nexus 7 works nicely
  1757.        
  1758. 18:41
  1759. Mickey Mouse
  1760. Same here @Aramis.
  1761.        
  1762. 18:41
  1763. Mickey Mouse
  1764. @Minnie: Hi, good weekend? feel like back in school, but did you take notes today? haha
  1765.        
  1766. 18:41
  1767. Mickey Mouse
  1768. @Minnie: I was logged in but only got to see part of it. Seemed very good too
  1769.        
  1770. 18:41
  1771. Mickey Mouse
  1772. Cool Goofy
  1773.        
  1774. 18:41
  1775. Mickey Mouse
  1776. My wifey has a qi charger for S5.
  1777.        
  1778. 18:42
  1779. Mickey Mouse
  1780. @Jiminy I always take notes
  1781.        
  1782. 18:42
  1783. Mickey Mouse
  1784. I had to buy a special battery cover for her s5 to work. I also have a spare. Set me back $70 on Amazon.
  1785.        
  1786. 18:43
  1787. Mickey Mouse
  1788. Gangsta Donald LOL
  1789.        
  1790. 18:43
  1791. Mickey Mouse
  1792. @Minnie: Great! I was really annoyed all day because i was missing good stuff
  1793.        
  1794. 18:44
  1795. Mickey Mouse
  1796. lol
  1797.        
  1798. 18:44
  1799. Mickey Mouse
  1800. Neo, the Matrix
  1801.        
  1802. 18:44
  1803. Mickey Mouse
  1804. hacker
  1805.        
  1806. 18:45
  1807. Mickey Mouse
  1808. Thank goodness for Minnie. Now I can catch what I missed when I kept having power issues this morning.
  1809.        
  1810. 18:45
  1811. Mickey Mouse
  1812. I'm getting the impression you guys want me to share my notes...
  1813.        
  1814. 18:45
  1815. Mickey Mouse
  1816. She's awesome like that.
  1817.        
  1818. 18:46
  1819. Mickey Mouse
  1820. @Minnie: nah, we'll shoulder surf ya
  1821.        
  1822. 18:47
  1823. Mickey Mouse
  1824. ha ha ha Jiminy
  1825.        
  1826. 18:47
  1827. Mickey Mouse
  1828. @Minnie: to be honest... I stopped trying to keep up in a digital format because your... is jsut so good so... kinda would like you to continue sharing. You're one of my favorites right now
  1829.        
  1830. 18:47
  1831. Mickey Mouse
  1832. Thanks all, will do
  1833.        
  1834. 18:48
  1835. Mickey Mouse
  1836. @Athos +1 yep
  1837.        
  1838. 18:48
  1839. Mickey Mouse
  1840. She has everything organized and nicely laid out.
  1841.        
  1842. 18:48
  1843. Mickey Mouse
  1844. Thanks Minnie!
  1845.        
  1846. 18:48
  1847. Mickey Mouse
  1848. forget it reformat it.
  1849.        
  1850. 18:49
  1851. Mickey Mouse
  1852. talking firmware then?
  1853.        
  1854. 18:49
  1855. Mickey Mouse
  1856. Fist to heart, genuflects toward Mihala*
  1857.        
  1858. 18:50
  1859. Mickey Mouse
  1860. If there is a rootkit in the firmware there is nothing you can do I believe
  1861.        
  1862. 18:50
  1863. Mickey Mouse
  1864. @Chip I had to look up the word 'genuflect' - thanks for new word of the day
  1865.        
  1866. 18:50
  1867. Mickey Mouse
  1868. you're welks
  1869.        
  1870. 18:51
  1871. Mickey Mouse
  1872. Well like the hard drive exploits that the NSA does. they are firmware and can't be removed.
  1873.        
  1874. 18:52
  1875. Mickey Mouse
  1876. They can't really be detected either
  1877.        
  1878. 18:53
  1879. Mickey Mouse
  1880. Not even a secure erase can't get rid of it either.
  1881.        
  1882. 18:53
  1883. Mickey Mouse
  1884. but a firmware flash can
  1885.        
  1886. 18:53
  1887. Mickey Mouse
  1888. scan from a boot cd
  1889.        
  1890. 18:54
  1891. Mickey Mouse
  1892. Can you ever really be sure its gone?
  1893.        
  1894. 18:54
  1895. Mickey Mouse
  1896. Only way to get into a hardware at way... You have to jtag it .
  1897.        
  1898. 18:54
  1899. Mickey Mouse
  1900. Provided that the jtag port is enabled.
  1901.        
  1902. 18:55
  1903. Mickey Mouse
  1904. @Goofy: yes... it's called a burner laptop
  1905.        
  1906. 18:55
  1907. Mickey Mouse
  1908. i restore from a clean image
  1909.        
  1910. 18:55
  1911. Mickey Mouse
  1912. @Goofy: jtag?
  1913.        
  1914. 18:55
  1915. Mickey Mouse
  1916. I believe with the hard drive firmware rootkits, they hide themselves from a firmware flash as well
  1917.        
  1918. 18:55
  1919. Mickey Mouse
  1920. erm *@Jiminy
  1921.        
  1922. 18:55
  1923. Mickey Mouse
  1924. @Minnie... JTAG is mor on the electronics side of things. reprogram it from above
  1925.        
  1926. 18:55
  1927. Mickey Mouse
  1928. @Minnie. jtag is hardware level. Very complicated. You have to solder a serial port onto the controller board.
  1929.        
  1930. 18:56
  1931. Mickey Mouse
  1932. @Athos and Goofy - thanks. Beyond me then
  1933.        
  1934. 18:56
  1935. Mickey Mouse
  1936. look up JTAG xbox 36o or JTAG for android devices
  1937.        
  1938. 18:57
  1939. Mickey Mouse
  1940. If my eyesight didn't suck. I'd so play with all of that stuff.
  1941.        
  1942. 18:57
  1943. Mickey Mouse
  1944. We found Minnie's weak spot... it really does exist
  1945.        
  1946. 18:57
  1947. Mickey Mouse
  1948. @Athos and cryptography
  1949.        
  1950. 18:57
  1951. Mickey Mouse
  1952. @Willian: lol
  1953.        
  1954. 18:57
  1955. Mickey Mouse
  1956. virtual environment could be a solution for that
  1957.        
  1958. 18:58
  1959. Mickey Mouse
  1960. like VMWare View
  1961.        
  1962. 18:58
  1963. Mickey Mouse
  1964. meh... cryptography is one of those things one a select few people are at that level
  1965.        
  1966. 18:58
  1967. Mickey Mouse
  1968. virtual desktop machines
  1969.        
  1970. 18:58
  1971. Mickey Mouse
  1972. FLOCON2015 is available now
  1973.        
  1974. 18:59
  1975. Mickey Mouse
  1976. Wow. Hostgator got hacked by SEA. http://thehackernews.com/2015/03/website-hosting-services.html
  1977.        
  1978. 19:00
  1979. Mickey Mouse
  1980. wow.... that is interesting
  1981.        
  1982. 19:00
  1983. Mickey Mouse
  1984. interesting thanks Goofy
  1985.        
  1986. 19:01
  1987. Mickey Mouse
  1988. Your welcome
  1989.        
  1990. 19:01
  1991. Mickey Mouse
  1992. So was the general public first made aware of rootkits, because of Sony?
  1993.        
  1994. 19:01
  1995. Mickey Mouse
  1996. Question: How many popular port numbers for trojans/virus are covered in the exam? Are they ??
  1997.        
  1998. 19:03
  1999. Mickey Mouse
  2000. malware is like cancer.
  2001.        
  2002. 19:03
  2003. Mickey Mouse
  2004. We had a raw, open Internet connection for R&D in college. Computer was hacked before you'd sit down!
  2005.        
  2006. 19:04
  2007. Mickey Mouse
  2008. HA
  2009.        
  2010. 19:04
  2011. Mickey Mouse
  2012. cripes
  2013.        
  2014. 19:04
  2015. Mickey Mouse
  2016. @Chip Rootkits have been around before the Sony goof
  2017.        
  2018. 19:04
  2019. Mickey Mouse
  2020. I know, I meant the general public's knowledge of them
  2021.        
  2022. 19:04
  2023. Mickey Mouse
  2024. Also the general public still has no clue
  2025.        
  2026. 19:05
  2027. Mickey Mouse
  2028. combofix has been my tool against rootkit
  2029.        
  2030. 19:07
  2031. Mickey Mouse
  2032. Its hard to get companies to pay for decent equipment to run multi tools & programs on thier systems
  2033.        
  2034. 19:07
  2035. Mickey Mouse
  2036. is done in medicine all the time
  2037.        
  2038. 19:07
  2039. Mickey Mouse
  2040. I agree with Athos, the general public may not even be aware of them even now
  2041.        
  2042. 19:07
  2043. Mickey Mouse
  2044. they grab a virus modify the dna code and release another one to attack the bad virus
  2045.        
  2046. 19:08
  2047. Mickey Mouse
  2048. Not all the time, seen and heard too much to hope medicine is safe
  2049.        
  2050. 19:08
  2051. Mickey Mouse
  2052. I didn't know about rootkits until I started looking into getting a CEH/ wroking with backtrack 5
  2053.        
  2054. 19:08
  2055. Mickey Mouse
  2056. Thanks guys have a good night all!
  2057.        
  2058. 19:09
  2059. Mickey Mouse
  2060. you leaving us Aramis?
  2061.        
  2062. 19:09
  2063. Mickey Mouse
  2064. I agree Jiminy it is not important until something happens
  2065.        
  2066. 19:09
  2067. Mickey Mouse
  2068. netstat -an > PORTS_ON.txt | egrep -iv KNOWN_PORTS.txt ( or something similar - I'm not a script nija ) Basic Idea is a quick review of running services that are NOT familiar.
  2069.        
  2070. 19:09
  2071. Mickey Mouse
  2072. Night Aramis
  2073.        
  2074. 19:09
  2075. Mickey Mouse
  2076. are we done for today??
  2077.        
  2078. 19:09
  2079. Mickey Mouse
  2080. Yes unfortunately work is getting in the way how dare they! LOL
  2081.        
  2082. 19:09
  2083. Mickey Mouse
  2084. black-ice ??
  2085.        
  2086. 19:09
  2087. Mickey Mouse
  2088. whew.. .blac ice... that takes me back
  2089.        
  2090. 19:09
  2091. Mickey Mouse
  2092. I think Sony got payback tho
  2093.        
  2094. 19:09
  2095. Mickey Mouse
  2096. Night Minnie!
  2097.        
  2098. 19:10
  2099. Mickey Mouse
  2100. LOL @Jiminy
  2101.        
  2102. 19:11
  2103. Mickey Mouse
  2104. Yeah, early DSL modems were just bridged.
  2105.        
  2106. 19:11
  2107. Mickey Mouse
  2108. my public IP is 192.168.1.1 Scan away people
  2109.        
  2110. 19:11
  2111. Mickey Mouse
  2112.  
  2113.        
  2114. 19:11
  2115. Mickey Mouse
  2116. where did SLAM.exe ever go? The Gui to SLAM a port close?
  2117.        
  2118. 19:12
  2119. Mickey Mouse
  2120. or strikeback
  2121.        
  2122. 19:12
  2123. Mickey Mouse
  2124. that's my ip
  2125.        
  2126. 19:12
  2127. Mickey Mouse
  2128. My old memories are flooding back.....
  2129.        
  2130. 19:13
  2131. Mickey Mouse
  2132. I think it is outlawed now to use it
  2133.        
  2134. 19:14
  2135. Mickey Mouse
  2136. a lot of my friends don't know what a Desktop is, never mind a rootkit lol
  2137.        
  2138. 19:16
  2139. Mickey Mouse
  2140. @Donald - will you be discussing BOGON_filtering at all? Do they - or can they play in CEH?
  2141.        
  2142. 19:17
  2143. Mickey Mouse
  2144. @Louie: I just scanned your IP. Your system is riddled with infections...oh wait...thats mine!
  2145.        
  2146. 19:18
  2147. Mickey Mouse
  2148. I see you are connected to me - Get Out Get Out --- ROFL
  2149.        
  2150. 19:19
  2151. Mickey Mouse
  2152. .
  2153.        
  2154. 19:21
  2155. Mickey Mouse
  2156. @Louie: I tried to BSOD you, now I need to reinstall
  2157.        
  2158. 19:21
  2159. Mickey Mouse
  2160. Soon I'll be rejoining the work force - I hope they are secure or I foresee many hours of unpaid OT staring at me.... I hope I will have ONE focus verses the "multi-tasking" clause or doing 110 jobs at a time....
  2161.        
  2162. 19:21
  2163. Mickey Mouse
  2164. So, does CEH also include recommendations that we can use to harden our networks?
  2165.        
  2166. 19:23
  2167. Mickey Mouse
  2168. @Louie I didn't know there were jobs where you were not working on 110 tasks at the same time
  2169.        
  2170. 19:23
  2171. Mickey Mouse
  2172. Honey due list. brb in a few.
  2173.        
  2174. 19:23
  2175. Mickey Mouse
  2176. Just take everything we learn here and reverse it. How do you protect against what we are doing in a pen test.
  2177.        
  2178. 19:24
  2179. Mickey Mouse
  2180. Good grief, Jiminy
  2181.        
  2182. 19:26
  2183. Mickey Mouse
  2184. you guys should look into how to protect windows servers from IPv6 flodding
  2185.        
  2186. 19:26
  2187. Mickey Mouse
  2188. Just updated for this chapter: https://bitly.com/itpro-ceh-links
  2189.        
  2190. 19:26
  2191. Mickey Mouse
  2192. There is an interesting exploit that make the server bsod simply from 1 bad IPv6 packet
  2193.        
  2194. 19:27
  2195. Mickey Mouse
  2196. Thanks Minnie
  2197.        
  2198. 19:27
  2199. Mickey Mouse
  2200. Thanks Minnie
  2201.        
  2202. 19:27
  2203. Mickey Mouse
  2204. Nice work Minnie!
  2205.        
  2206. 19:29
  2207. Mickey Mouse
  2208. @Jeff - one can only have dreams.... @Minnie - Way to Go !
  2209.        
  2210. 19:31
  2211. Mickey Mouse
  2212. hmmm fun fact... the AR9285 doesn't work out of the box with aircrack on lubuntu... .but it does with kali....
  2213.        
  2214. 19:31
  2215. Mickey Mouse
  2216. troubleshooting complete, I'm back!
  2217.        
  2218. 19:31
  2219. Mickey Mouse
  2220. for 30 minutes until i go home
  2221.        
  2222. 19:32
  2223. Mickey Mouse
  2224. I feel like I'm going to be watching this whole week's show on tape
  2225.        
  2226. 19:32
  2227. Mickey Mouse
  2228. A waitress told me the other day that I drink more water then a fish.
  2229.        
  2230. 19:32
  2231. Mickey Mouse
  2232. I dont eat seafood..... everyday
  2233.        
  2234. 19:33
  2235. Mickey Mouse
  2236. @Huey... just tell them it's a known issue and close their ticket
  2237.        
  2238. 19:33
  2239. Mickey Mouse
  2240.  
  2241.        
  2242. 19:33
  2243. Mickey Mouse
  2244. haha, I wish I could use that as an excuse
  2245.        
  2246. 19:33
  2247. Mickey Mouse
  2248. Time for a Bambi Burger
  2249.        
  2250. 19:34
  2251. Mickey Mouse
  2252. ROFL, Bambi...did you see the SNL spoof with the Rock as Bambi?
  2253.        
  2254. 19:34
  2255. Mickey Mouse
  2256. I like Jim Gaffigan's bit about seafood. He said, I'd like fish, if it didn't taste like fish.
  2257.        
  2258. 19:34
  2259. Mickey Mouse
  2260. Venison, yeah buddy!!
  2261.        
  2262. 19:34
  2263. Mickey Mouse
  2264. LOL
  2265.        
  2266. 19:34
  2267. Mickey Mouse
  2268. Only fine?
  2269.        
  2270. 19:35
  2271. Mickey Mouse
  2272. My dogs wanna go sniffing.
  2273.        
  2274. 19:35
  2275. Mickey Mouse
  2276. affects confidentiality
  2277.        
  2278. 19:35
  2279. Mickey Mouse
  2280. I'm disappointed Huey. I really want to watch that Bambi movie
  2281.        
  2282. 19:37
  2283. Mickey Mouse
  2284. Wireshark, NetWitness
  2285.        
  2286. 19:37
  2287. Mickey Mouse
  2288. Not only the sniffing but it's down to packet analyzers.
  2289.        
  2290. 19:37
  2291. Mickey Mouse
  2292. ntop
  2293.        
  2294. 19:38
  2295. Mickey Mouse
  2296. I haven't played with Netwitness in a long time.
  2297.        
  2298. 19:38
  2299. Mickey Mouse
  2300. wikipedia.org/Promiscuous_mode list quite a few
  2301.        
  2302. 19:39
  2303. Mickey Mouse
  2304. gonna take a walk with the wife.... Minnie I'm trusing you
  2305.        
  2306. 19:39
  2307. Mickey Mouse
  2308. Eek!
  2309.        
  2310. 19:39
  2311. Mickey Mouse
  2312. Enjoy your walk
  2313.        
  2314. 19:40
  2315. Mickey Mouse
  2316. Good Luck dude.
  2317.        
  2318. 19:40
  2319. Mickey Mouse
  2320. LOL
  2321.        
  2322. 19:41
  2323. Mickey Mouse
  2324. Monitor mode
  2325.        
  2326. 19:41
  2327. Mickey Mouse
  2328. Or a switch able to do port mirroring?
  2329.        
  2330. 19:42
  2331. Mickey Mouse
  2332. Need both @Duey
  2333.        
  2334. 19:42
  2335. Mickey Mouse
  2336. If want to see much more than your own traffic and broadcasts
  2337.        
  2338. 19:42
  2339. Mickey Mouse
  2340. Of course when I run Wireshark I am focused on specific equipment connected to the switch.
  2341.        
  2342. 19:43
  2343. Mickey Mouse
  2344. A bunch of ARP traffic
  2345.        
  2346. 19:43
  2347. Mickey Mouse
  2348. I can also mirror the port for what is going to my gateway.
  2349.        
  2350. 19:43
  2351. Mickey Mouse
  2352. true
  2353.        
  2354. 19:44
  2355. Mickey Mouse
  2356. hubs are getting harder to find to buy
  2357.        
  2358. 19:46
  2359. Mickey Mouse
  2360. I had a stash of them at my old job
  2361.        
  2362. 19:46
  2363. Mickey Mouse
  2364. >.> <.<
  2365.        
  2366. 19:46
  2367. Mickey Mouse
  2368. I think I can mirror more than one port on my main switch, but I can't recall how many at once.
  2369.        
  2370. 19:47
  2371. Mickey Mouse
  2372. You will also only see your network traffic if your wireless router is set to AP isolation
  2373.        
  2374. 19:48
  2375. Mickey Mouse
  2376. You can send packet captures over ssh tunnel.
  2377.        
  2378. 19:52
  2379. Mickey Mouse
  2380. SPAN Switch Port ANalyzer
  2381.        
  2382. 19:52
  2383. Mickey Mouse
  2384. I used these at my previous job to send traffic to IDS/IPS
  2385.        
  2386. 19:53
  2387. Mickey Mouse
  2388. OK I'm heading home, back on in an hour, hopefully there will be more
  2389.        
  2390. 19:53
  2391. Mickey Mouse
  2392. See you Huey
  2393.        
  2394. 19:53
  2395. Mickey Mouse
  2396. janitor
  2397.        
  2398. 19:53
  2399. Mickey Mouse
  2400. @Huey: later
  2401.        
  2402. 19:54
  2403. Mickey Mouse
  2404. 10 immutable laws: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh278941.aspx
  2405.        
  2406. 19:54
  2407. Mickey Mouse
  2408. fire marshall, need to check the sprinkler system
  2409.        
  2410. 19:54
  2411. Mickey Mouse
  2412. nice
  2413.        
  2414. 19:55
  2415. Mickey Mouse
  2416. Always escort visitors in secured areas
  2417.        
  2418. 19:55
  2419. Mickey Mouse
  2420. Help desk guys always enjoy time away from phones
  2421.        
  2422. 19:56
  2423. Mickey Mouse
  2424. An old company I worked for the server room was a closet behind the receptionist and the door to it was always open
  2425.        
  2426. 19:56
  2427. Mickey Mouse
  2428. Call centers are hell.
  2429.        
  2430. 19:56
  2431. Mickey Mouse
  2432. @jeff LOL been there
  2433.        
  2434. 19:57
  2435. Mickey Mouse
  2436. @Philip: a small box like Donalds might get away with even when accompanied
  2437.        
  2438. 19:58
  2439. Mickey Mouse
  2440. What was that "box" they were referring to? I must have missed that.
  2441.        
  2442. 19:58
  2443. Mickey Mouse
  2444. Minipwner
  2445.        
  2446. 19:58
  2447. Mickey Mouse
  2448. thx
  2449.        
  2450. 19:58
  2451. Mickey Mouse
  2452. It's on the links page: https://bitly.com/itpro-ceh-links
  2453.        
  2454. 19:59
  2455. Mickey Mouse
  2456. A place where I use to work left the server room permenantly open as the cooling system wasn't great haha
  2457.        
  2458. 20:00
  2459. Mickey Mouse
  2460. One job my boss did not have access to the server room
  2461.        
  2462. 20:01
  2463. Mickey Mouse
  2464. My Chromecast just froze, rebooting it.
  2465.        
  2466. 20:01
  2467. Mickey Mouse
  2468. Access cards are wonderful things
  2469.        
  2470. 20:02
  2471. Mickey Mouse
  2472. latest big attack http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/30/github-may-have-been-targeted-by-chinese-hackers-in-ddos-attack/
  2473.        
  2474. 20:02
  2475. Mickey Mouse
  2476. Same here. Server was boiling. They had to jury rig an enclosure and then drape it with some kinda plastic to vent off the heat.
  2477.        
  2478. 20:02
  2479. Mickey Mouse
  2480. lol Goofy wow
  2481.        
  2482. 20:02
  2483. Mickey Mouse
  2484. There normally shouldn't be fire-suppression sprinklers in an equipment room anyway.
  2485.        
  2486. 20:03
  2487. Mickey Mouse
  2488. @Goofy: haha
  2489.        
  2490. 20:03
  2491. Mickey Mouse
  2492. Maybe halon nozzles, but is halon allowed now?
  2493.        
  2494. 20:04
  2495. Mickey Mouse
  2496. @Duey: Nope, can't make it any more
  2497.        
  2498. 20:04
  2499. Mickey Mouse
  2500. They had to cut through the ceiling and install a portable A/C unit in there. Still it was 80 in there. On a cold day it was like 70.
  2501.        
  2502. 20:04
  2503. Mickey Mouse
  2504. I just turned on the A/C in my equipment room at the house yesterday, I was venting it outside when the old cooler failed.
  2505.        
  2506. 20:05
  2507. Mickey Mouse
  2508. I keep mine at 70 degrees F.
  2509.        
  2510. 20:05
  2511. Mickey Mouse
  2512. @Goofy: mine was East facing with windows so was only getting as the day went on lol
  2513.        
  2514. 20:05
  2515. Mickey Mouse
  2516. Me and my Dad will need to mount the replacement unit probably next weekend.
  2517.        
  2518. 20:05
  2519. Mickey Mouse
  2520. getting hotter *
  2521.        
  2522. 20:06
  2523. Mickey Mouse
  2524. Tested a fob that required you to swipe your finger prior to sending the unlock code to a door sensor. Wish it had worked better than 80% of the time
  2525.        
  2526. 20:06
  2527. Mickey Mouse
  2528. We had to empty the water drip garbage can every morning.
  2529.        
  2530. 20:07
  2531. Mickey Mouse
  2532. It was a non profit and didn't have much money or at least wanting to spend on their equipment.
  2533.        
  2534. 20:07
  2535. Mickey Mouse
  2536. Condensation?
  2537.        
  2538. 20:07
  2539. Mickey Mouse
  2540. Yep. It's a funky setup.
  2541.        
  2542. 20:07
  2543. Mickey Mouse
  2544. Years ago, I was allowed to visit one of the server rooms, they had at Camp LeJeune, Marine Base... it was really cool. Literally and figuratively.
  2545.        
  2546. 20:07
  2547. Mickey Mouse
  2548. @Goofy: mine was a BIG money making company
  2549.        
  2550. 20:08
  2551. Mickey Mouse
  2552. LOL @Jiminy
  2553.        
  2554. 20:08
  2555. Mickey Mouse
  2556. I run a "swamp cooler" in the main house (New Mexico), but refrigerated air for the equipment room.
  2557.        
  2558. 20:08
  2559. Mickey Mouse
  2560. The old cooler died from dust.
  2561.        
  2562. 20:10
  2563. Mickey Mouse
  2564. I need to seal the room better, dust is always an issue.
  2565.        
  2566. 20:10
  2567. Mickey Mouse
  2568. When I did network printer support at the airport they set a temp office for me in one of the server rooms. & nobody questioned me with my I.D. & shirt & tie, except going onto runway. crasy
  2569.        
  2570. 20:11
  2571. Mickey Mouse
  2572. QUESTION: @Donald what was the name of that ether... graphical tool you mentioned? doesn't show packets
  2573.        
  2574. 20:11
  2575. Mickey Mouse
  2576. In New Mexico water evaporates quickly enough.
  2577.        
  2578. 20:11
  2579. Mickey Mouse
  2580. Etherape
  2581.        
  2582. 20:11
  2583. Mickey Mouse
  2584. Thanks @Captain my captain
  2585.        
  2586. 20:12
  2587. Mickey Mouse
  2588. Selfie sticks are banned from football grounds here in Ireland now
  2589.        
  2590. 20:12
  2591. Mickey Mouse
  2592. It's better to use a selfie stick then using the mirror in your bathroom!
  2593.        
  2594. 20:13
  2595. Mickey Mouse
  2596. Good morning, afternoon and evening everyone!!!!~~~~  
  2597.        
  2598. 20:13
  2599. Mickey Mouse
  2600. @Donald Exactly!!!!
  2601.        
  2602. 20:13
  2603. Mickey Mouse
  2604. Good evening Wes
  2605.        
  2606. 20:13
  2607. Mickey Mouse
  2608. Good afternoon, Wes
  2609.        
  2610. 20:13
  2611. Mickey Mouse
  2612. Hey Wes!
  2613.        
  2614. 20:13
  2615. Mickey Mouse
  2616. @Wes: haha
  2617.        
  2618. 20:13
  2619. Mickey Mouse
  2620. I may need to reboot my Chromebox at an opportune time, I'm trying to set the Smart Lock feature.
  2621.        
  2622. 20:14
  2623. Mickey Mouse
  2624. https://www.wireshark.org/docs/
  2625.        
  2626. 20:16
  2627. Mickey Mouse
  2628. I use it infrequently (there isn't many issues thankfully), maybe I need to watch "normal" operation more.
  2629.        
  2630. 20:17
  2631. Mickey Mouse
  2632. Hello Minnie, Chip, Goofy and Jiminy  
  2633.        
  2634. 20:18
  2635. Mickey Mouse
  2636. And Hello Duey!  
  2637.        
  2638. 20:18
  2639. Mickey Mouse
  2640. hello Wes! Welcome to the Matrix
  2641.        
  2642. 20:19
  2643. Mickey Mouse
  2644. Hello to you as well D'artagan!!! and thank you sir!  
  2645.        
  2646. 20:20
  2647. Mickey Mouse
  2648. The sonicwall can detect this.
  2649.        
  2650. 20:20
  2651. Mickey Mouse
  2652. Make sure you have permission or you will get a cold boot yourself
  2653.        
  2654. 20:20
  2655. Mickey Mouse
  2656.  
  2657.        
  2658. 20:21
  2659. Mickey Mouse
  2660. but the sniffer only capture packets that go throught the NIC installed in the computer or the entire network?
  2661.        
  2662. 20:21
  2663. Mickey Mouse
  2664. my old admin guy used to yell at me because I found ftp passwords. Took allot of convincing that ftp passed plaintext passwords..... Oh man.....
  2665.        
  2666. 20:21
  2667. Mickey Mouse
  2668. @D'artagan You still may be held liable
  2669.        
  2670. 20:21
  2671. Mickey Mouse
  2672. LOL
  2673.        
  2674. 20:22
  2675. Mickey Mouse
  2676. depends where you port out to ...
  2677.        
  2678. 20:23
  2679. Mickey Mouse
  2680. thank you
  2681.        
  2682. 20:25
  2683. Mickey Mouse
  2684. what if they are in a different VLAN
  2685.        
  2686. 20:25
  2687. Mickey Mouse
  2688. port scan
  2689.        
  2690. 20:25
  2691. Mickey Mouse
  2692. syn flood?
  2693.        
  2694. 20:25
  2695. Mickey Mouse
  2696. is that the -sS one?
  2697.        
  2698. 20:25
  2699. Mickey Mouse
  2700. refusing ack back to establish connection
  2701.        
  2702. 20:26
  2703. Mickey Mouse
  2704. wwwwoooooooooooo!
  2705.        
  2706. 20:26
  2707. Mickey Mouse
  2708. Half open scan
  2709.        
  2710. 20:26
  2711. Mickey Mouse
  2712. xmas
  2713.        
  2714. 20:26
  2715. Mickey Mouse
  2716.  I have been paying attention, honest
  2717.        
  2718. 20:27
  2719. Mickey Mouse
  2720. Nice Minnie!!
  2721.        
  2722. 20:27
  2723. Mickey Mouse
  2724. @Minnie: expect nothing less now lol
  2725.        
  2726. 20:27
  2727. Mickey Mouse
  2728. I lost connection for a few minutes
  2729.        
  2730. 20:28
  2731. Mickey Mouse
  2732. give us cool filters!
  2733.        
  2734. 20:29
  2735. Mickey Mouse
  2736. https://wiki.wireshark.org/SampleCaptures
  2737.        
  2738. 20:30
  2739. Mickey Mouse
  2740. Having a demostration or someone that knows how to use it is helpful.
  2741.        
  2742. 20:30
  2743. Mickey Mouse
  2744. Add it to the link list! hah
  2745.        
  2746. 20:30
  2747. Mickey Mouse
  2748. Don's videos are also very good, as has been mentioned.
  2749.        
  2750. 20:31
  2751. Mickey Mouse
  2752. You can capture and replay voip too
  2753.        
  2754. 20:31
  2755. Mickey Mouse
  2756. VoIP phone tapping!
  2757.        
  2758. 20:31
  2759. Mickey Mouse
  2760. Win utils you need WPCAP.
  2761.        
  2762. 20:34
  2763. Mickey Mouse
  2764. @Louie: Unfortunately, not g729 which is a very common codec. I think it only does g711. But definitely a cool feature.
  2765.        
  2766. 20:34
  2767. Mickey Mouse
  2768. Monitor mode.
  2769.        
  2770. 20:34
  2771. Mickey Mouse
  2772. You can see the beacons
  2773.        
  2774. 20:34
  2775. Mickey Mouse
  2776. what about local hosts file?? can you feed wireshark a host file to use? maybe the zone transfer you captured??
  2777.        
  2778. 20:34
  2779. Mickey Mouse
  2780. www.riverbed.com
  2781.        
  2782. 20:34
  2783. Mickey Mouse
  2784. AirPcap
  2785.        
  2786. 20:35
  2787. Mickey Mouse
  2788. brb
  2789.        
  2790. 20:36
  2791. Mickey Mouse
  2792. @Chip: is that part of the aircrack suite?
  2793.        
  2794. 20:36
  2795. Mickey Mouse
  2796. HOA
  2797.        
  2798. 20:36
  2799. Mickey Mouse
  2800. Didnt think it worked for all situations, but I did it once and my boss thought that was pretty kewl.
  2801.        
  2802. 20:37
  2803. Mickey Mouse
  2804. looks like I only missed one session?
  2805.        
  2806. 20:37
  2807. Mickey Mouse
  2808. I'm doing a Chrome reboot, BRB.
  2809.        
  2810. 20:38
  2811. Mickey Mouse
  2812. @Athos: just went through wireshark
  2813.        
  2814. 20:38
  2815. Mickey Mouse
  2816. ah. cool. I didn't miss too much for me then. I have used that a lot.
  2817.        
  2818. 20:39
  2819. Mickey Mouse
  2820. @Louie Robbins Sniffing section in links page now updated
  2821.        
  2822. 20:39
  2823. Mickey Mouse
  2824. AFK
  2825.        
  2826. 20:39
  2827. Mickey Mouse
  2828. @Jiminy... no
  2829.        
  2830. 20:40
  2831. Mickey Mouse
  2832. @Chip: thanks, was just looking it up lol
  2833.        
  2834. 20:41
  2835. Mickey Mouse
  2836. Riverbed AirPcap - Capture 802.11 WLAN packets for rapid, comprehensive analysis with your favorite packet-analysis software. This is the only Microsoft Windows-based wireless packet capture device fully integrated with Wireshark and Riverbed® SteelCentral™ Packet Analyzer. Choose among three affordable, easy-to-deploy versions: AirPcap Classic, AirPcap Tx, and AirPcap Nx.
  2837.        
  2838. 20:41
  2839. Mickey Mouse
  2840. nice
  2841.        
  2842. 20:42
  2843. Mickey Mouse
  2844. Captain my captain is right, it's not cheap
  2845.        
  2846. 20:43
  2847. Mickey Mouse
  2848. I hope my new boss has a budget for tools
  2849.        
  2850. 20:44
  2851. Mickey Mouse
  2852. or... utilize a free kali VM and $30 AWUS036NEH
  2853.        
  2854. 20:45
  2855. Mickey Mouse
  2856. Either a good budget, or you have no way of detecting some things...
  2857.        
  2858. 20:46
  2859. Mickey Mouse
  2860. Raspberry Pi + Wireless Dongle + USB Battery Pack
  2861.        
  2862. 20:46
  2863. Mickey Mouse
  2864. But most of these tools are free.
  2865.        
  2866. 20:46
  2867. Mickey Mouse
  2868. @Saunder - Awesome!
  2869.        
  2870. 20:47
  2871. Mickey Mouse
  2872. @Duey... what kind of things can't you detect without a budget?
  2873.        
  2874. 20:48
  2875. Mickey Mouse
  2876. @. If you need to do bluetooth sniffing, the Ubertooth One is the way to go. It's $120 and doesn't come with an enclosure but it's really fun
  2877.        
  2878. 20:48
  2879. Mickey Mouse
  2880. Did anyone get their books yet?
  2881.        
  2882. 20:48
  2883. Mickey Mouse
  2884. @Goofy I got mine from Amazon. 28 for a book isn't a bad deal
  2885.        
  2886. 20:49
  2887. Mickey Mouse
  2888. ebook
  2889.        
  2890. 20:49
  2891. Mickey Mouse
  2892. Its not signed though!
  2893.        
  2894. 20:49
  2895. Mickey Mouse
  2896. @Goofy B. Yes, I've noticed.
  2897.        
  2898. 20:49
  2899. Mickey Mouse
  2900. oh... @GoofyO are you a winner?
  2901.        
  2902. 20:49
  2903. Mickey Mouse
  2904. Yep
  2905.        
  2906. 20:50
  2907. Mickey Mouse
  2908. @Athos: As said, most of the software tools are free, but bosses/beancounters need to understand you need a "security budget", which means protection devices like firewalls, and keeping servers up-to-date...
  2909.        
  2910. 20:52
  2911. Mickey Mouse
  2912. There are some helpful tools that do cost money, if a workplace is too cheap to spend money on protection, prepare to get hacked.
  2913.        
  2914. 20:52
  2915. Mickey Mouse
  2916. true Duey
  2917.        
  2918. 20:54
  2919. Mickey Mouse
  2920. boy they have come along way on forensic "all-in-one" devices/boxes.
  2921.        
  2922. 20:54
  2923. Mickey Mouse
  2924. @Duey that is one of the hardest things to make them see.
  2925.        
  2926. 20:54
  2927. Mickey Mouse
  2928. Ah gotcha Duey
  2929.        
  2930. 20:54
  2931. Mickey Mouse
  2932. sorry it took so long i was going over the missed chat
  2933.        
  2934. 20:54
  2935. Mickey Mouse
  2936. @Beem +1 that!!
  2937.        
  2938. 20:55
  2939. Mickey Mouse
  2940. The person at the TD desk may want to keep their phone out of the camera's field of view.
  2941.        
  2942. 20:55
  2943. Mickey Mouse
  2944. After they are hacked the first time, they see it very well.
  2945.        
  2946. 20:55
  2947. Mickey Mouse
  2948. Especially if it caused them to lose money.
  2949.        
  2950. 20:56
  2951. Mickey Mouse
  2952. Unfortunately it takes something to happen before they want to spend the money
  2953.        
  2954. 20:56
  2955. Mickey Mouse
  2956. I have a Euro
  2957.        
  2958. 20:56
  2959. Mickey Mouse
  2960. I will bet Home Depot and Target do not fight over a security budget
  2961.        
  2962. 20:56
  2963. Mickey Mouse
  2964. back
  2965.        
  2966. 20:56
  2967. Mickey Mouse
  2968. LOL @Goofy
  2969.        
  2970. 20:56
  2971. Mickey Mouse
  2972. That is a big aspect to CEH, to get the company to proactively check for security flaws, before it is an issue.
  2973.        
  2974. 20:57
  2975. Mickey Mouse
  2976. Which requires manpower
  2977.        
  2978. 20:57
  2979. Mickey Mouse
  2980. That is what happen where I work now, we got hit with the cryptowall and now they don't mind spending the money
  2981.        
  2982. 20:57
  2983. Mickey Mouse
  2984. The time to hit them is when the C levels at the same industry start talking about their getting hacked. The last thing most of them want is that type of scrutiny .
  2985.        
  2986. 20:59
  2987. Mickey Mouse
  2988. Donald: is C,I,A, now extended to include: confidentiality, integrity, availability, privacy, authenticity & trustworthiness, non-repudiation, accountability and auditability?
  2989.        
  2990. 20:59
  2991. Mickey Mouse
  2992. I saw it years ago with a budget that could have gone to 1.) better equipment or 2.) more people. We spent the money on better equipment, and that made it so we didn't need more people.
  2993.        
  2994. 21:00
  2995. Mickey Mouse
  2996. @Jiminy Those are things that you need to be aware of for ISACA CISM
  2997.        
  2998. 21:01
  2999. Mickey Mouse
  3000. @Minnie; thanks, I should've known to ask you first haha
  3001.        
  3002. 21:03
  3003. Mickey Mouse
  3004. telnet
  3005.        
  3006. 21:03
  3007. Mickey Mouse
  3008. @Jiminy it's a bit old now but lookup references to the McCumber Cube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCumber_cube
  3009.        
  3010. 21:06
  3011. Mickey Mouse
  3012. and home
  3013.        
  3014. 21:07
  3015. Mickey Mouse
  3016. Yep
  3017.        
  3018. 21:07
  3019. Mickey Mouse
  3020. Get rid of the e-mail client, and go to a secure webmail interface.
  3021.        
  3022. 21:08
  3023. Mickey Mouse
  3024. @Minnie: thanks. captain,AA is how i remember it. lol
  3025.        
  3026. 21:09
  3027. Mickey Mouse
  3028. @Jiminy, nice acronym!
  3029.        
  3030. 21:11
  3031. Mickey Mouse
  3032. @Duey Drawback to web mail is it requires a live Internet connection .. Road warrior may not have it.
  3033.        
  3034. 21:13
  3035. Mickey Mouse
  3036. Understood Chip, but that is getting better; Most people only run a mail client when they do have Internet access.
  3037.        
  3038. 21:14
  3039. Mickey Mouse
  3040. @Chip... a true road warrior always has internet in todays age
  3041.        
  3042. 21:15
  3043. Mickey Mouse
  3044. We get n to client sites where we cannot access outside resources and cell phones not allowed. Plus the interfaces on webmail are still very limited.
  3045.        
  3046. 21:16
  3047. Mickey Mouse
  3048. gtocha... when you work in the government and pharma that does tend to happen
  3049.        
  3050. 21:16
  3051. Mickey Mouse
  3052. Good tactic Donald.
  3053.        
  3054. 21:18
  3055. Mickey Mouse
  3056. master key - key escrow -
  3057.        
  3058. 21:25
  3059. Mickey Mouse
  3060. Is that it for the day??
  3061.        
  3062. 21:25
  3063. Mickey Mouse
  3064. Thanks Donald and Mike
  3065.        
  3066. 21:25
  3067. Mickey Mouse
  3068. when is fridays episoide going to be posted
  3069.        
  3070. 21:25
  3071. Mickey Mouse
  3072. very soon
  3073.        
  3074. 21:25
  3075. Mickey Mouse
  3076. like in an hour
  3077.        
  3078. 21:25
  3079. Mickey Mouse
  3080. Thanks Donald and Mike
  3081.        
  3082. 21:26
  3083. Mickey Mouse
  3084. Theyve been going up pretty quick
  3085.        
  3086. 21:26
  3087. Mickey Mouse
  3088. Thanks Nathan
  3089.        
  3090. 21:26
  3091. Mickey Mouse
  3092. Another great show
  3093.        
  3094. 21:26
  3095. Mickey Mouse
  3096. crossing fingers
  3097.        
  3098. 21:26
  3099. Mickey Mouse
  3100. cant wait
  3101.        
  3102. 21:27
  3103. Mickey Mouse
  3104. its beer time again. I mean book
  3105.        
  3106. 21:27
  3107. Mickey Mouse
  3108. lol Jiminy
  3109.        
  3110. 21:27
  3111. Mickey Mouse
  3112. Again Thanks Mike & Donald.
  3113.        
  3114. 21:27
  3115. Mickey Mouse
  3116. Hate to add to my nations steroetype, but I'm off for beers again tonight lol
  3117.        
  3118. 21:27
  3119. Mickey Mouse
  3120. Id rather have a margarita
  3121.        
  3122. 21:27
  3123. Mickey Mouse
  3124. Both sounds like a good idea - beer and book
  3125.        
  3126. 21:27
  3127. Mickey Mouse
  3128. LOL@Jiminy
  3129.        
  3130. 21:28
  3131. Mickey Mouse
  3132. Hazaa - nice show today! thanks everybody
  3133.        
  3134. 21:28
  3135. Mickey Mouse
  3136. Congrats Duey!
  3137.        
  3138. 21:28
  3139. Mickey Mouse
  3140. Cool.
  3141.        
  3142. 21:28
  3143. Mickey Mouse
  3144. I'm an avid bottle collector! sounds way better than alcaholic lol
  3145.        
  3146. 21:29
  3147. Mickey Mouse
  3148. Congrats Duey
  3149.        
  3150. 21:29
  3151. Mickey Mouse
  3152. Congrats Duey!
  3153.        
  3154. 21:29
  3155. Mickey Mouse
  3156. Gratz Beem!!!
  3157.        
  3158. 21:29
  3159. Mickey Mouse
  3160. Woo, grats Duey!
  3161.        
  3162. 21:29
  3163. Mickey Mouse
  3164. congrat @Duey
  3165.        
  3166. 21:29
  3167. Mickey Mouse
  3168. Yes, @Dave ! Congrats.
  3169.        
  3170. 21:29
  3171. Mickey Mouse
  3172. WTG Duey
  3173.        
  3174. 21:29
  3175. Mickey Mouse
  3176. Congrats Duey
  3177.        
  3178. 21:29
  3179. Mickey Mouse
  3180. Congrats Duey
  3181.        
  3182. 21:29
  3183. Mickey Mouse
  3184. Thanks for another great show, see you tomorrow!
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