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- Hrumph: emma: i'm in usd so my side is the usd side but note that I fully recognise that favouring usd or a low value of btc is unfair to people who were simply holding btc
- evilmushroom: so his mood has increased
- Rizar: or they found pendrive
- Rizar: XD
- relatic3 joined the chat room.
- Hrumph: emma: i just hope that they can come up with a resolution that's optimally fair to everyone on average
- emma: yeah
- ppvkignx: additionally, it's likely that Mtgox has debtors who are not unsecured and thus have priority, meaning unsecured debtors (depositors) will get well under 5% after fees are accounted for as well
- linagee: I don't get it. Does Mark just have all the coins in a brain wallet or what? How can you even prove that's *not* the case?
- reb0rn: fair would be full BTC in some reasonable time
- Anthony1s_ joined the chat room.
- ppvkignx: you can't make lemonade with a rock
- ppvkignx: you can't conjure 850,000 btc out of thin air
- Hrumph: robocoin: not for those buying zillions of btc at $100...those guys don't deserve full market value
- reb0rn: no but OVER time yes
- ppvkignx: reb0rn, mtgox made 2 million profit in 2013. They owe 500million+ in bitcoin
- MasterMaA: evilmushroom He didnt lode the coins?
- MasterMaA: lose
- evilmushroom: MasterMaA sorry I was joking. I have absolutely no idea.
- Concurrent581072: "23:21:48 <MagicalTux> I'm providing details to the law enforcement, saying anything publicly could cause problems with the investigation" is the reason why he isn't telling how the coins were lost, supposedly
- MasterMaA: evilmushroom lol
- reb0rn: ppvkignx no , they also earned 100K BTC!
- reb0rn: they keep it in BTC because no tax, and more value
- Rizar: ppvkignx so we will get ours btc in 250 yrs
- Rizar:
- evilmushroom: MasterMaA I didn't even have coins in gox-- but I have a friend that had some.. who is mega depressed. I just check this channel to see if there is any good news to tell him
- ppvkignx: they made 100k btc over the entire operations of the exchange, right?
- hadoopSucks: there just 0 chance that a 100 target price could be argued, that was only that low due to withdrawissues
- reb0rn: hell know
- MagicalKarp: evilmushroom: still waiting for update.
- usaoscoin: !seen ne0futur
- Title: ne0futur was last seen in ##mtgox-chat 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <ne0futur> nah
- MagicalKarp: usaoscoin: he idlin'
- MasterMaA: ne0futur was just a contractor... MK fooled him too.
- xempew joined the chat room.
- sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
- tinaivanova: lies
- ppvkignx: additionally, mtgox would only make realbtc fees on future deposits, not existing deposits
- ppvkignx: prospects look bleak.
- reb0rn: its the same
- reb0rn: if there is investor with $$ future could be fine
- pasod: evilmushroom: it's too soon to know what hill happen, there is a legal process in development so things go slower
- reb0rn: but thets big IF
- evilmushroom: yeah I figured
- linagee: MagicalKarp: are you like a tux?
- ppvkignx: if mtgox does not have the 500million debt thrown out nobody would invest
- zoinky joined the chat room.
- ppvkignx: the liability is just ridiculously huge compared to the entire bitcoin economy
- reb0rn: its not
- MasterMaA: There was someone here proposing an IPO, e.g. delivering the losses to wall street...lol
- MagicalKarp: linagee: no I am not affiliated with da tux.
- ppvkignx: this bankruptcy is the ipo, and all you goxbtc holders are shareholders
- reb0rn: BTC in 2 year can be huge
- reb0rn: its a chance
- MagicalKarp: yeah people Gox is providing you with a service by keeping your coins from you.
- reb0rn: also ANYONE who wants future for BTC should help
- reb0rn: so i still have hope there will be investors with BIG $$$
- ppvkignx: lol
- nanashi_ joined the chat room.
- nanashi_ is now known as nanashi____.
- Frozenlo` joined the chat room.
- ppvkignx: 500 million probably dwarfs existing investment into bitcoin companies, but i'd be interested in seeing the numbers
- ppvkignx: across the entire industry
- reb0rn: if mtgox manage to take of as new IPO, thet would benefit BTC huge
- SuSEno: reb0rn: better to file an IPO so EVERYONE can own MtGox
- GrandHeirophant: lol
- GrandHeirophant: isnt their rules
- MasterMaA: Why would anyone invest 500 million in a toxic firm like MtGox?
- GrandHeirophant: to file an IPO
- reb0rn: 500M is nothing, just small ppl don`t understand it
- reb0rn: small ppl, don`t get angry
- ppvkignx: look up the minji saisei process, existing debtors are essentially shareholders
- btcide joined the chat room.
- Hachima: and people that do understand it wouldn't touch MtGox
- BTC_Bear is now known as BTC_Bear|hbrntng.
- jibble: why would people pay 750 million for a defunct full tilt poker, they did
- ppvkignx: creditor sorry
- reb0rn: jibble right on spot
- reb0rn: Hachima big ppl know how to revers disaster
- sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
- btcide: is the Gox brand worth $500mm?
- reread: no way
- btcide: otherwise it's a toxic asset
- Hachima: no
- reb0rn: any news is good news, even bankrupcy for most
- btcide: no one will touch it
- btcide: and the technical assets aren't worth much either
- SuSEno: I came with the idea to file IPO so everyone can pay us
- reread: what was their profit in 2013 like 2 mil 3mil ?
- Hachima: exactly
- reb0rn: you all know shit, you all have no GOX BTC, but are here to spread fud
- pasod: at least it's not a liquidation
- ppvkignx: US DOJ brokered the full tilt deal
- reb0rn: maybe you are from bistamp or btc-e
- hadoopSucks: the user accounts especially verified are worth mint tho
- ppvkignx: i'm not dumb enough to rely entirely on a single exchange
- sys joined the chat room.
- reb0rn: its not only accounts, its the media
- SuSEno: reb0rn: I agree
- reb0rn: can anyone imagine if somone take it and turn it all back, + media.. in a split time it can take 50% btc market with right skill
- neko_jita joined the chat room.
- <anarchystar> what do you mean with potential new owners? <- we've been in discussion for more than a week with different investors willing to buy mtgox and cover the missing funds"
- emma: i was just thinking about what a strange world the bitcoin world is. I mean like.. When all those banks on wallstreet were collapsing, how many of those customers could say they were getting little pms from the CEOs
- reb0rn: sure big cash is needed
- emma: bitcoin world is such a small world
- jibble: plus litecoin market can be dominanted by them
- jibble: dominated*
- MasterMaA: SuSeno lol
- reread: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/78404559815/tbi-exclusive-more-resignations-coming-at-the-bitcoin
- Title: [ The Two-Bit Idiot — TBI Exclusive - More Resignations Coming at the Bitcoin Foundation ]
- SuSEno: reb0rn: I work in a brokerage company and I know some company with negative income and near dying file for an IPO with sh!t pricey price just to pay their debt.
- emma: lol
- emma: The Bitcoin Foundation is such a pack of scum
- neko_jita: Anyone get through on the posted phoneline that lives in Japan? If so, any worthwile info?
- SuSEno: But this company share price will plummet 10% in the first trading day
- MagicalKarp: Someone explain to me how Idiot gets all that stuff.
- ppvkignx: check website for info in next few hours neko_jita
- emma: It embarrasses me that I was pushing my offline friends and family so hard about bitcoins and then it turns out this Bitcoin Foundation is full of criminals and vile people.
- Dr-G2: Vote for me for new Bitcoin Supreme Leader
- hadoopSucks: agreed
- jibble: most of the would of gotten into bitcoin by buying and selling drugs in the first place, and then going....hold on a second i can make even more with this currency and its legal
- reb0rn: emma still they controll shit
- jibble: not most but some
- evilmushroom: why would anyone push friends and family on crypto?
- DailyDoge: lol
- neko_jita: ppvkignx: any speculation what the announcement will be? weird to post a phone number just to redirect back to website... must just be a requirement as part of bankruptcy protection
- MagicalKarp: emma: criminals and vile people? Are you trolling? Show me some hard facts instead of spouting that crap
- ppvkignx: i accidentally almost got someone into bitcoin before realizing my mistake
- reread: twobitidiot is satoshi
- sdoowpilihp joined the chat room.
- thoughtcourier joined the chat room.
- MagicalKarp: ^ I surely hope not
- Copesetic: I really dont like TBI
- jibble: twobitidiot is an idiot
- MagicalKarp: Copesetic: me neither.
- ppvkignx: tbi is a drama queen but he has sources so whatever
- MagicalKarp: Everyone hate on 2BI!
- emma: because i was the kind of bitcoin enthusiast that wanted everyone to know about it and use it. Then more recently I find out that bitcoin community also has a ton of people who make fun of others who get hurt by the Bitcoin Foundation and company.
- ppvkignx: half the internet is autistic anyway
- hadoopSucks: anyone who goes on and on about anonymous generally leads me to believe they are in bitcoin for "special" reasons
- jibble: i have revealing info about gox!! let me spend 6 hours giving crumbs to people until they all love me and will listen!!
- neko_jita: TBI is likely connected to the secondmarket guys and that is his source... just saying
- ppvkignx: but he is particularly "special"
- ppvkignx: just read this: http://www.reddit.com/user/twobitidiot
- Title: [ overview for twobitidiot ]
- MagicalKarp: ppvkignx: didn't he ragequit reddit
- emma: MagicalKarp: yeah are you kidding? Look at the Bitcoin foundation board and alumni, how could you not see?
- jenninsea joined the chat room.
- nanashi____: http://picosong.com/Y7di
- Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
- ppvkignx: nah, he's just being an attention whore MagicalKarp. Gotta start shit to keep the spotlight
- nanashi____: to the japanese speaker here enjoy
- nanashi____: meeting of mark with bank
- MagicalKarp: nanashi____: what do you mean?
- ppvkignx: source nanashi____?
- nanashi____: this is FUD channel so take or elave
- MagicalKarp: emma: Andresen? Matonis? Vessenes? WHAT?
- MasterMaA joined the chat room.
- MagicalKarp: nanashi____: no it's not, now where are the facts
- SuSEno: emma: people in Bitcoin Foundation only care about technical aspect of Bitcoin Protocol not financial aspect of bitoin economy
- emma: TwoBitIdiot: I have A BREAKING STORY keep on checking my blog every 10 minutes and give me reddit karma while I milk this for all its worth. Oh and by the way here's a plug for the bitcoin companies I shill for in every post I publish.
- ppvkignx: linky or you stinky nanashi____
- emma: SuSEno: that's so not true
- emma: you are thinking of bitcoin developers
- emma: different story
- hadoopSucks: isnt the twobit monkey a ripple guy, biggest scam ever
- GuestLjL: emma: well, i'm not "in", so i'm looking at the Board and see nothing. can you tell me what i should be seeing?
- ZjP: nanashi____: translation?-
- MagicalKarp: anyone click nanashi____ 's link..?
- emma: Bitcoin Foundation is a trade organization that people pay their way into, and unfortunately the people with the most money in the bitcoin world are also disproportionately dirty scumbags.
- ZjP: MagicalKarp: Yes, audio file in japanese.
- nanashi____: i dont japan
- ppvkignx: MagicalKarp its a recording in japanese
- MagicalKarp: right.
- ToasterOven joined the chat room.
- cokea joined the chat room.
- cokea: nanashi____ what's that
- cokea: ?
- SuSEno: emma: but it's the fact, they don't care about Bitcoin Economy as far as I know
- btcide: It sounds legit
- btcide: There is a native speaker
- nanashi____: mark talk to bank
- MasterMaA: Shrem and MK were in the board of Bitcoin Foundation
- btcide: And someone with an accent
- MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where did this come from?
- cokea: how did you get it
- cokea: and what does it say nanashi____
- pasod: zomgg new anouncement!! in ~1-2 hours incompatible encoding
- Copesetic: was this recorded secretly?
- nanashi____: i dont japan dont understad content
- as far as i know"
- nanashi____: japan speaker could transate i hoped
- SuSEno: yeah I can be wrong
- evilmushroom: what's in Japanese?
- rereadd joined the chat room.
- MagicalKarp: his recording (link)
- MagicalKarp: ANYONE SPEAK JAPANESE HERE?
- evilmushroom: me
- wiz: i do but im on the phone now
- MagicalKarp: you, click that link and report
- Copesetic: Its a half hour recording
- ZjP: evilmushroom: You are now our unpaid translator.
- usaoscoin: lol.
- thrasher1: new mtgox announcement in 1-2 hours?
- neko_jita: I do
- MagicalKarp:
- ZjP: neko_jita: You are now our unpaid translator.
- GuestLjL: douzo yorosiku onegai simasu
- MagicalKarp: lol.
- neko_jita: nice, glad I have my gox coins to fall back on
- itbaron joined the chat room.
- MagicalKarp: lololol
- nanashi____: they have 20gb document and give me share here
- emma: is nanashi____ a hacker?
- nanashi____: i not hacker
- evildave666: though I'm happy I got mine back
- nanashi____: just posting
- JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
- denemy: same here
- usaoscoin: emma: just a messenger i think
- danadanadana: nanashi: who gave you?
- pasod: denemy: because they could and have to i suppose
- Dr-G: post more :>
- Hachima: thanks for the info
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, 20gb document? jesus
- Rizar: lol :DF
- greenut: i know why... mark is just a stupid geek boy. he made two mistakes that pros won't ever make: he didn't do homework to study countries finance laws... for example he did set up a company in the US but he forgot to sign paper stating that the company he owns that they doesn't deal in or exchange money, and that it doesn't send funds based on customer instructions which did lead to US seize 5 millions.
- usaoscoin: shit, is that the database
- tarix_jp: at 26minutes the bank guy confirms its mizuho
- Hachima: people deserve the truth
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, thank you for the info
- dosteria: nanashi : upload somewhere
- emma: nanashi____: are you claiming there has been a bot net in Mark's office for a year?
- btcide: finished the recording - MK had some issues with banks and was aiming to be cooperative
- Rizar: meaby in this documents we will find private key ;d
- usaoscoin: the 20gb could be the database
- oldaco: nanashi____: do you need storage ? account ? server ? anything ?
- usaoscoin: customer database...
- evildave666: japan is understandable, but I have no clue why sepas got paid out last week
- nanashi____: i just translate some the line in room of talk
- nanashi____: is russian
- btcide: nothing really interesting for gox's future
- nanashi____: so copy paste here senseless
- pasod: evildave666: they've been paying it normally, the only issue was with internatinoal wires
- ZjP: nanashi____: We can find unpaid russian translators too
- dosteria: nanashi : do you have the whole 20gb ?
- nanashi____: i dont have file
- usaoscoin: wtf the 20gb... could be serious bad news
- nanashi____: just get link to post
- pasod: evildave666: well, with some delay...
- nanashi____: apology
- pasod: what is the 20gb doc?
- evildave666: pasod: on the 24th the delay was over a month on jpy, on the 25th almost all of the queue was processed.
- denemy: @eveildave666 right. if it was only Japan, then it's easy to understand.. One of my withdrawal was 30 days late when I got it, minutes before Gox went down
- Copesetic: I seriously hope that's not everyone's private info
- usaoscoin: same here Copesetic
- ineededausername: http://picosong.com/Y7di/ ?
- Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
- danadanadana: nanashi____: where did you get the link?
- frzl: AML.pdf
- emma: nanashi____: please have the hackers you are working for send 120 BTC here 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg That was my money I need to pay my loans.
- dosteria: frzl : wtf are u talking about?
- hadoopSucks: trying to download that file but teh site sint clear how to grab the pdf
- piluso: That pdf is a tenant application form
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, could you give the link to the post?
- pasod: emma lol
- nanashi____: i cant share original
- nanashi____: useless to ask
- nanashi____: just when i get document i post here okay?
- pasod: ok
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, okay thank you
- emma: nanashi____: okay thanks.
- evildave666: only 1 person with pending jpy that I know of did not get processed on the 25th, but his was a 2 million yen transaction.
- danadanadana: ok then
- Hachima: ok, thanks nanashi
- ZjP: emma: You might find that $60000 is not worth the money laundering charges
- dosteria: nanashi : ok thank you very much
- roygbiv2: Does the PDF say when the lease ran out or was it a rolling monthly contract?
- pasod: there are private keys to share? lol
- nanashi____: when proxy is block i must stop but for now is ok
- greenut: thanks btcide
- paxos is now known as paxos^off.
- evildave666: that's the lease from the new office
- roygbiv2: oh.. right.
- danadanadana: nanashi____: do you have money in mt gox?
- Concurrent581072: evildave666, did you listen to the whole conversation with the bank? anything useful?
- hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
- nanashi____: i never use gox
- hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
- nanashi____: is pile of shit
- oldaco: \o/
- pasod: lol
- evildave666: may 26 2012 to may 2014
- Concurrent581072: lol
- danadanadana: nanashi____: how did you involved in this?
- emma: nanashi____: but if you talk to the people who stole the money, please have them return 120 BTC of it to me here: 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg you can read about me here: http://emnode.blogspot.com/2014/02/dear-mark-karpeles-my-name-is-emma.html
- Title: [ emnode: An Open Letter to Mark Karpeles ]
- MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where are you from?
- denemy: >evildave666 : mine were for 1M
- nanashi____: serbia
- MagicalKarp: right k
- funfare: hi
- it is dated on 2012, hardly new office
- denemy: divided in 3 transactions
- dosteria: if personal infos have leaked that would just be the cherry on the cake
- reb0rn: nanasi dokazi
- evildave666: nothing useful up to 30 minutes.
- evildave666: its for the new office address
- btcide: evildave666: agree I listened to the whole thing
- Mark_Karpeles300: I swallowed the private keys guys
- MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300 change name
- LittleDuke: Here's how Gox will reboot itself -- it will pre-mine a bunch of a whole new block -- then they will offer it pro-rata to everyone they screwed -- set up a new exchange to swap goxcoins for other crypto -- the judges will deem this as fair
- kcinolo: nanashi____: did botnet steal the coins
- Mark_Karpeles300: we're just waiting for them to pass
- btcide: but let us know if you hear something I missed
- MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300: change your name
- danadanadana: so according to nanashi____, russians are hacked into mtgox computers, as we can see some evidence
- pasod: emma: it's a selfish thing to do, we all have problems... but probably i'll request mine too if i could
- piluso: are you guys talking about this? https://pdfshare.it/doc/7HSBAIHC1/001
- ZjP: (North American's should take this oppertunity to put a flag on their credit accounts)
- Title: [ PDFshare.it ]
- yerp: wow, good chance they have customers docs
- emma: pasod: if the hacker's messenger is here, I only have a moment to ask them to give my money back
- reb0rn: emma its not from a hacker 99%
- rfish: http://picosong.com/Y7di/
- Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, are the people leaking this the people responsible for stealing the btc?
- pasod: i don't think the person who gots the bitcoins wouldn't risk to come here
- mtgox182: emma, did you quit your job? you're always on here now..
- ZjP: reb0rn: 1% chance to get $60000 does have an expected value of $600
- emma: mtgox182: no i didn't. sadly.
- emma: mtgox182: its sunday
- it is midnight, you should go to sleep
- Hiro2: anybody who understands Japanese already listeing to the recording?
- linagee: did Mark steal the bitcoins?
- rmoen|away is now known as rmoen.
- emma: piluso: that's true
- nanashi____: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
- Title: [ Name Home Mobile Personal Email Emergency Contact Emergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com ]
- pasod: linagee: who knows
- emma: i was about to and then all this happened
- emma: mtgox182: are you always mtgox182 ? It seems like I see 182 a lot
- oldaco: wow
- pasod: o.O
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: employees ?
- mtgox182: yes lol
- evildave666: nothing important in the audio file
- nanashi____: but is old file
- Rizar: LOl
- piluso: wtf
- Rizar: so gox lost our documents too
- Concurrent581072: mark karpeles contact info
- Rizar: bitcoins fiat and our documents
- Rizar: OMG
- thoughtcourier: employees... oh man, I hope they changed their numbers.
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, this is great keep it coming
- nanashi____: there is photocopy of passport and so on
- nanashi____: in this files
- nanashi____: but they dont share
- piluso: wtf
- Copesetic: dammit
- danadanadana: someone is trying to prove something
- pasod: moar
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, are these the people who stole the btc?
- piluso: do you have the photocopies of verified users?
- emmettoc: Summary: The bank wanted to close Gox's account peacefully and Gox could say nothing now, so the bank said "we can close it forcibly". Also Gox had some problems with CitiBank.
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, the people leaking i mean
- Copesetic: Seriously everyone time to enroll in identity theft protection
- funfare: uh wtf
- Hiro2: I started listening to the audio file now, nank is wondering why the activity in the account have gone down recently
- funfare: copies of verified accounts users? where?
- JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
- hadoopSucks: @danadanadana where are you getting this, russian hackers?
- dosteria: omg
- oldaco: well... if customer IDs were stolen, hell will break lose on gox
- mtgox182: its from an old pastebin
- usaoscoin: wtf...
- nanashi____: gox store the all info in mysql
- nanashi____: someone trying to reading dump
- blueocean: apprently mark is still claiming that there are buyers
- nanashi____: but too large
- blueocean: and a police invsetigation is ongoing
- tarix_jp: emmettoc: and Mark trying to keep the account open by focusing on the increase in Japanese customers.
- danadanadana: these documents look like taken from o users computer
- funfare: Trade With Confidence
- hadoopSucks: nanshi i can parse mysql but where is the link to the db file
- dsfa14: lmfao
- tt: 23:54:54 <tt> Hi, do you have a moment to talk?
- tt: whoops
- danadanadana: not the exchange itself
- LittleDuke: emma i just socialed your open letter out on LinkedIN and Twitter
- emmettoc: tarix_jp: yep
- tt: is "social" a verb now?
- LittleDuke: yeah
- tt: I may have to go jump off a bridge.
- LittleDuke: "socialed"
- pasod: tt i'll go after you
- ZjP: tt: <vomit>
- tarix_jp: and like all good Japanese meetings, no decision and no resolution but i'm guessing Mark got bad news later on.
- LittleDuke: go for it
- tt: (joke's on you, I'll bring a bungee cord)
- evildave666: every time I hear friend used as a verb I get the urge to kill
- LittleDuke: i figured when "winingest" made it in, it was all fair game
- hensai: was there supposed to be an announcement about half an hour ago?
- ZjP: tt: joke's on you, you'll be alive in a word with social as a verb.
- ZjP: world**
- emmettoc: MK said "There are about 50m-200m JPY deposit per day by Japanese customers", did he?
- emma: So now because I got verified on MtGox im going to end up on some no fly list?
- hadoopSucks: folks i dont see any link to a mysql file, danadanadana can you repost link
- danadanadana: it wasn't me
- danadanadana: it's nanashi____ sharing all these files/documents
- tt: "winningest" is at least playful
- hadoopSucks: where is link in caht he did tho idont see it
- ZjP: emma: Only if your name/age would be believable if used by a 16-24 year old arabic man.
- hadoopSucks: all i have is some pdf
- evildave666: emmettoc: didn't get that part, do you have a timeindex for that?
- pasod: nanashi____: from what date is those files? old?
- emma: ZjP: haha okay good
- nanashi____: yes is old
- danadanadana: he is in contact with some russian people, who are sharing links with him
- nanashi____: new document not so many
- nanashi____: because they put in db
- pasod: ok
- LittleDuke: OFFS -- getting AML verified wins you extra pat downs? PLEASE -- only if you ever xferred a shitload of fiat without declaring it
- MagicalKarp: So the pastebin with the contact info was already known?
- emmettoc: evildave666: around the last part...
- nanashi____: no was not known
- nanashi____: old mean
- nanashi____: files are older
- pasod: nanashi____: it's all users personal information? or what it is?
- emma: this is ridiculous
- funfare: what is going on
- emma: if ever i did have any bitcoins again. Im never using any exchange outside the USA. Hell no.
- LittleDuke: if you acted in "good faith" you have nothing to worry about -- you can of course take down the badge and name of any "officer" who interrogates you
- emma: Just ridiculous
- reb0rn: MtGox at start was USA
- oldaco: Emergency contact / Emergency number supposedly applies to employees, not customers
- danadanadana: nanashi____: have you ever used mt-gox?
- oldaco: but god know what else they got their hands on
- ZjP: Not 4 weeks ago I passed through the TSA without a single piece of ID. Claims about them being over-bearing or evil are greatly exaggerated.
- oldaco: knows
- Hachima: he said no
- nanashi____: MagicalKarp says i must stop to post
- nanashi____: we will probably leak torrent
- nanashi____: also of sources
- tt: ZjP: how'd that go? extra screening?
- emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
- Hachima: You can find a new channel
- LittleDuke: "they were surprising gentle"
- tt: ZjP: (I did that once; they increased the ID requirements while I was on a trip.)
- phantomcircuit: that info is anclient
- ZjP: tt: Nope, just a standard proceduce to verify my identity. Asked the info that would have been on my ID, and called it in.
- tt: ZjP: ah, alright
- tt: ZjP: did they get a picture to compare?
- ZjP: tt: Don't think so. On the other end of the phone they might have been describing what I looked like on the ID they had no doubt pulled up electronically.
- LittleDuke: love that "new screening procedure" where you get to touch an iPad and then randomly get to go through an old school metal detector -- you know...just like the old days...
- hadoopSucks: @danadanadana looking above i see no link with documents in it other than the small lease pdf, if nanshi posted another link to docs can u repaste please
- tt: *nod*
- emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
- danadanadana: just 3 links, one of them is about the offce
- nanashi____: they not stealer
- ZjP: No, I don't think he's getting it from mark...
- nanashi____: just want to show truth
- danadanadana: one of them is a sound recording
- nanashi____: but not easy
- emmettoc: evildave666: about 34:40
- emma: nanashi____: do you have all the BTC? If so could you please have them send my 120 BTC back?
- danadanadana: and a list of workers with contact details
- emma: nanashi____: okay I see. Well thanks for the truth.
- oldaco: nanashi____: Thank you.
- nanashi____: we dont have btc
- Hachima: emma he is just a relay and no he can't get your BTC back
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: who has btc
- hadoopSucks: is there any link to 20GB of data?
- free_: hey Nanashi, can I ask where these files are coming from?
- denemy: LOL @ +emma
- nanashi____: unknown
- emma: nanashi____: If you don't mind - could you please ask your hacker friends not to publish our passports?
- nanashi____: maybe put in fat french boss ass
- pasod: they're coming from mtgox obviously lol
- kcinolo: lol
- ZjP: nanashi____: The folks have any idea what happened to the BTC (lost key / stolen recently / stolen in 2011?)
- free_: Unknown, but are you getting them from somewhere?
- kcinolo: nanashi____: where will you put torrent?
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: how do you get paid
- dizko: yea please release info about mtgox's fraud, don't screw over all the customers again by releasing their personal info
- nanashi____: i dont paid
- pasod: i think the information it's more important than where it comes from or who is him
- Hachima: Where will the torrent be posted?
- evildave666: emmettoc: Yeah, that sounds right.
- nanashi____: want gox boss going a jail for crime against user
- emma: nanashi____: - fraud deserves to be revealed. innocent customer information doesn't. Okay?
- reb0rn: nansi ne seri
- gmaxwell: nanashi____: if you need someone to handle the data with respect for personal info, let me know and I can connect you with someone trustworthy.
- ToasterOven: dizko: glad your back
- gmaxwell: (who can also validate the integrity of the data)
- evildave666: though probably incorrect, since the banker was saying from japanese people but really meant via domestic transfer.
- nanashi____: passport copy not release
- pasod: nanashi____: tell your friends to respect users personal information please
- nanashi____: they look for non personal document at moment
- nanashi____: they have 20gb document and give me share here
- emma: is nanashi____ a hacker?
- nanashi____: i not hacker
- evildave666: though I'm happy I got mine back
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- nanashi____: just posting
- JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
- denemy: same here
- usaoscoin: emma: just a messenger i think
- danadanadana: nanashi: who gave you?
- pasod: denemy: because they could and have to i suppose
- Dr-G: post more :>
- Hachima: thanks for the info
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, 20gb document? jesus
- ineededausername joined the chat room.
- Rizar: lol :DF
- greenut: i know why... mark is just a stupid geek boy. he made two mistakes that pros won't ever make: he didn't do homework to study countries finance laws... for example he did set up a company in the US but he forgot to sign paper stating that the company he owns that they doesn't deal in or exchange money, and that it doesn't send funds based on customer instructions which did lead to US seize 5 millions.
- usaoscoin: shit, is that the database
- tarix_jp: at 26minutes the bank guy confirms its mizuho
- Hachima: people deserve the truth
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, thank you for the info
- dosteria: nanashi : upload somewhere
- emma: nanashi____: are you claiming there has been a bot net in Mark's office for a year?
- btcide: finished the recording - MK had some issues with banks and was aiming to be cooperative
- emsid joined the chat room.
- Rizar: meaby in this documents we will find private key ;d
- usaoscoin: the 20gb could be the database
- oldaco: nanashi____: do you need storage ? account ? server ? anything ?
- usaoscoin: customer database...
- evildave666: japan is understandable, but I have no clue why sepas got paid out last week
- nanashi____: i just translate some the line in room of talk
- nanashi____: is russian
- btcide: nothing really interesting for gox's future
- nanashi____: so copy paste here senseless
- pasod: evildave666: they've been paying it normally, the only issue was with internatinoal wires
- ZjP: nanashi____: We can find unpaid russian translators too
- dosteria: nanashi : do you have the whole 20gb ?
- nanashi____: i dont have file
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- usaoscoin: wtf the 20gb... could be serious bad news
- nanashi____: just get link to post
- pasod: evildave666: well, with some delay...
- danieleff joined the chat room.
- nanashi____: apology
- pasod: what is the 20gb doc?
- evildave666: pasod: on the 24th the delay was over a month on jpy, on the 25th almost all of the queue was processed.
- denemy: @eveildave666 right. if it was only Japan, then it's easy to understand.. One of my withdrawal was 30 days late when I got it, minutes before Gox went down
- Copesetic: I seriously hope that's not everyone's private info
- usaoscoin: same here Copesetic
- ineededausername: http://picosong.com/Y7di/ ?
- Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
- danadanadana: nanashi____: where did you get the link?
- frzl: AML.pdf
- emma: nanashi____: please have the hackers you are working for send 120 BTC here 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg That was my money I need to pay my loans.
- dosteria: frzl : wtf are u talking about?
- hadoopSucks: trying to download that file but teh site sint clear how to grab the pdf
- piluso: That pdf is a tenant application form
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, could you give the link to the post?
- pasod: emma lol
- nanashi____: i cant share original
- nanashi____: useless to ask
- nanashi____: just when i get document i post here okay?
- pasod: ok
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, okay thank you
- emma: nanashi____: okay thanks.
- evildave666: only 1 person with pending jpy that I know of did not get processed on the 25th, but his was a 2 million yen transaction.
- danadanadana: ok then
- Hachima: ok, thanks nanashi
- ZjP: emma: You might find that $60000 is not worth the money laundering charges
- dosteria: nanashi : ok thank you very much
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- roygbiv2: Does the PDF say when the lease ran out or was it a rolling monthly contract?
- pasod: there are private keys to share? lol
- nanashi____: when proxy is block i must stop but for now is ok
- greenut: thanks btcide
- paxos is now known as paxos^off.
- evildave666: that's the lease from the new office
- roygbiv2: oh.. right.
- danadanadana: nanashi____: do you have money in mt gox?
- Concurrent581072: evildave666, did you listen to the whole conversation with the bank? anything useful?
- hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
- nanashi____: i never use gox
- hadoopSucks: ty nanshi
- nanashi____: is pile of shit
- oldaco: \o/
- pasod: lol
- evildave666: may 26 2012 to may 2014
- Concurrent581072: lol
- danadanadana: nanashi____: how did you involved in this?
- emma: nanashi____: but if you talk to the people who stole the money, please have them return 120 BTC of it to me here: 12GfYyWivb8TDFD38BhWD1zKASNenxdFEg you can read about me here: http://emnode.blogspot.com/2014/02/dear-mark-karpeles-my-name-is-emma.html
- Title: [ emnode: An Open Letter to Mark Karpeles ]
- MagicalKarp: nanashi____: where are you from?
- denemy: >evildave666 : mine were for 1M
- nanashi____: serbia
- MagicalKarp: right k
- funfare: hi
- it is dated on 2012, hardly new office
- denemy: divided in 3 transactions
- dosteria: if personal infos have leaked that would just be the cherry on the cake
- reb0rn: nanasi dokazi
- evildave666: nothing useful up to 30 minutes.
- Mark_Karpeles300 joined the chat room.
- evildave666: its for the new office address
- embm joined the chat room.
- btcide: evildave666: agree I listened to the whole thing
- Mark_Karpeles300: I swallowed the private keys guys
- MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300 change name
- LittleDuke: Here's how Gox will reboot itself -- it will pre-mine a bunch of a whole new block -- then they will offer it pro-rata to everyone they screwed -- set up a new exchange to swap goxcoins for other crypto -- the judges will deem this as fair
- kcinolo: nanashi____: did botnet steal the coins
- Mark_Karpeles300: we're just waiting for them to pass
- btcide: but let us know if you hear something I missed
- MagicalKarp: Mark_Karpeles300: change your name
- danadanadana: so according to nanashi____, russians are hacked into mtgox computers, as we can see some evidence
- pasod: emma: it's a selfish thing to do, we all have problems... but probably i'll request mine too if i could
- piluso: are you guys talking about this? https://pdfshare.it/doc/7HSBAIHC1/001
- ZjP: (North American's should take this oppertunity to put a flag on their credit accounts)
- Title: [ PDFshare.it ]
- yerp: wow, good chance they have customers docs
- emma: pasod: if the hacker's messenger is here, I only have a moment to ask them to give my money back
- mtgox182 joined the chat room.
- reb0rn: emma its not from a hacker 99%
- benjings joined the chat room.
- rfish: http://picosong.com/Y7di/
- Title: [ Playing: r.mp3 - picosong ]
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, are the people leaking this the people responsible for stealing the btc?
- pasod: i don't think the person who gots the bitcoins wouldn't risk to come here
- mtgox182: emma, did you quit your job? you're always on here now..
- ZjP: reb0rn: 1% chance to get $60000 does have an expected value of $600
- mb300sd joined the chat room.
- emma: mtgox182: no i didn't. sadly.
- emma: mtgox182: its sunday
- it is midnight, you should go to sleep
- Hiro2: anybody who understands Japanese already listeing to the recording?
- linagee: did Mark steal the bitcoins?
- rmoen|away is now known as rmoen.
- emma: piluso: that's true
- nanashi____: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
- Title: [ Name Home Mobile Personal Email Emergency Contact Emergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com ]
- pasod: linagee: who knows
- emma: i was about to and then all this happened
- relatic3 joined the chat room.
- emma: mtgox182: are you always mtgox182 ? It seems like I see 182 a lot
- oldaco: wow
- pasod: o.O
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: employees ?
- mtgox182: yes lol
- evildave666: nothing important in the audio file
- nanashi____: but is old file
- Rizar: LOl
- piluso: wtf
- Rizar: so gox lost our documents too
- Concurrent581072: mark karpeles contact info
- Rizar: bitcoins fiat and our documents
- Rizar: OMG
- thoughtcourier: employees... oh man, I hope they changed their numbers.
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, this is great keep it coming
- nanashi____: there is photocopy of passport and so on
- nanashi____: in this files
- nanashi____: but they dont share
- piluso: wtf
- Copesetic: dammit
- JohnKerr_ joined the chat room.
- danadanadana: someone is trying to prove something
- pasod: moar
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, are these the people who stole the btc?
- piluso: do you have the photocopies of verified users?
- emmettoc: Summary: The bank wanted to close Gox's account peacefully and Gox could say nothing now, so the bank said "we can close it forcibly". Also Gox had some problems with CitiBank.
- Concurrent581072: nanashi, the people leaking i mean
- Copesetic: Seriously everyone time to enroll in identity theft protection
- funfare: uh wtf
- Hiro2: I started listening to the audio file now, nank is wondering why the activity in the account have gone down recently
- funfare: copies of verified accounts users? where?
- JohnKerr_ is now known as JohnKerr.
- hadoopSucks: @danadanadana where are you getting this, russian hackers?
- dosteria: omg
- oldaco: well... if customer IDs were stolen, hell will break lose on gox
- mtgox182: its from an old pastebin
- usaoscoin: wtf...
- nanashi____: gox store the all info in mysql
- nanashi____: someone trying to reading dump
- blueocean: apprently mark is still claiming that there are buyers
- nanashi____: but too large
- johansen joined the chat room.
- blueocean: and a police invsetigation is ongoing
- tarix_jp: emmettoc: and Mark trying to keep the account open by focusing on the increase in Japanese customers.
- danadanadana: these documents look like taken from o users computer
- funfare: Trade With Confidence
- hadoopSucks: nanshi i can parse mysql but where is the link to the db file
- dsfa14: lmfao
- sy5error joined the chat room.
- tt: 23:54:54 <tt> Hi, do you have a moment to talk?
- tt: whoops
- danadanadana: not the exchange itself
- LittleDuke: emma i just socialed your open letter out on LinkedIN and Twitter
- emmettoc: tarix_jp: yep
- hensai joined the chat room.
- tt: is "social" a verb now?
- LittleDuke: yeah
- tt: I may have to go jump off a bridge.
- LittleDuke: "socialed"
- pasod: tt i'll go after you
- ZjP: tt: <vomit>
- tarix_jp: and like all good Japanese meetings, no decision and no resolution but i'm guessing Mark got bad news later on.
- LittleDuke: go for it
- tt: (joke's on you, I'll bring a bungee cord)
- evildave666: every time I hear friend used as a verb I get the urge to kill
- LittleDuke: i figured when "winingest" made it in, it was all fair game
- hensai: was there supposed to be an announcement about half an hour ago?
- ZjP: tt: joke's on you, you'll be alive in a word with social as a verb.
- johnscoin joined the chat room.
- ZjP: world**
- emmettoc: MK said "There are about 50m-200m JPY deposit per day by Japanese customers", did he?
- emma: So now because I got verified on MtGox im going to end up on some no fly list?
- JohnKerr joined the chat room.
- hadoopSucks: folks i dont see any link to a mysql file, danadanadana can you repost link
- danadanadana: it wasn't me
- danadanadana: it's nanashi____ sharing all these files/documents
- tt: "winningest" is at least playful
- hadoopSucks: where is link in caht he did tho idont see it
- ZjP: emma: Only if your name/age would be believable if used by a 16-24 year old arabic man.
- hadoopSucks: all i have is some pdf
- evildave666: emmettoc: didn't get that part, do you have a timeindex for that?
- pasod: nanashi____: from what date is those files? old?
- emma: ZjP: haha okay good
- nanashi____: yes is old
- danadanadana: he is in contact with some russian people, who are sharing links with him
- nanashi____: new document not so many
- nanashi____: because they put in db
- pasod: ok
- LittleDuke: OFFS -- getting AML verified wins you extra pat downs? PLEASE -- only if you ever xferred a shitload of fiat without declaring it
- MagicalKarp: So the pastebin with the contact info was already known?
- emmettoc: evildave666: around the last part...
- nanashi____: no was not known
- nanashi____: old mean
- nanashi____: files are older
- pasod: nanashi____: it's all users personal information? or what it is?
- emma: this is ridiculous
- ellipse joined the chat room.
- funfare: what is going on
- emma: if ever i did have any bitcoins again. Im never using any exchange outside the USA. Hell no.
- LittleDuke: if you acted in "good faith" you have nothing to worry about -- you can of course take down the badge and name of any "officer" who interrogates you
- emma: Just ridiculous
- reb0rn: MtGox at start was USA
- oldaco: Emergency contact / Emergency number supposedly applies to employees, not customers
- danadanadana: nanashi____: have you ever used mt-gox?
- oldaco: but god know what else they got their hands on
- ZjP: Not 4 weeks ago I passed through the TSA without a single piece of ID. Claims about them being over-bearing or evil are greatly exaggerated.
- oldaco: knows
- Hachima: he said no
- nanashi____: MagicalKarp says i must stop to post
- nanashi____: we will probably leak torrent
- nanashi____: also of sources
- tt: ZjP: how'd that go? extra screening?
- ellipse_ joined the chat room.
- emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
- Hachima: You can find a new channel
- LittleDuke: "they were surprising gentle"
- tt: ZjP: (I did that once; they increased the ID requirements while I was on a trip.)
- phantomcircuit: that info is anclient
- ZjP: tt: Nope, just a standard proceduce to verify my identity. Asked the info that would have been on my ID, and called it in.
- tt: ZjP: ah, alright
- tt: ZjP: did they get a picture to compare?
- grbox2014 joined the chat room.
- frozenlock joined the chat room.
- ZjP: tt: Don't think so. On the other end of the phone they might have been describing what I looked like on the ID they had no doubt pulled up electronically.
- LittleDuke: love that "new screening procedure" where you get to touch an iPad and then randomly get to go through an old school metal detector -- you know...just like the old days...
- hadoopSucks: @danadanadana looking above i see no link with documents in it other than the small lease pdf, if nanshi posted another link to docs can u repaste please
- tt: *nod*
- sideshow_ joined the chat room.
- emma: nanashi____: are you relaying info for the same people who stole the money?
- danadanadana: just 3 links, one of them is about the offce
- nanashi____: they not stealer
- ZjP: No, I don't think he's getting it from mark...
- nanashi____: just want to show truth
- danadanadana: one of them is a sound recording
- rav` joined the chat room.
- nanashi____: but not easy
- emmettoc: evildave666: about 34:40
- emma: nanashi____: do you have all the BTC? If so could you please have them send my 120 BTC back?
- danadanadana: and a list of workers with contact details
- emma: nanashi____: okay I see. Well thanks for the truth.
- oldaco: nanashi____: Thank you.
- nanashi____: we dont have btc
- Hachima: emma he is just a relay and no he can't get your BTC back
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: who has btc
- hadoopSucks: is there any link to 20GB of data?
- free_: hey Nanashi, can I ask where these files are coming from?
- denemy: LOL @ +emma
- nanashi____: unknown
- emma: nanashi____: If you don't mind - could you please ask your hacker friends not to publish our passports?
- nanashi____: maybe put in fat french boss ass
- pasod: they're coming from mtgox obviously lol
- kcinolo: lol
- ZjP: nanashi____: The folks have any idea what happened to the BTC (lost key / stolen recently / stolen in 2011?)
- free_: Unknown, but are you getting them from somewhere?
- kcinolo: nanashi____: where will you put torrent?
- usaoscoin: nanashi____: how do you get paid
- dizko: yea please release info about mtgox's fraud, don't screw over all the customers again by releasing their personal info
- nanashi____: i dont paid
- pasod: i think the information it's more important than where it comes from or who is him
- Plarkplark_ joined the chat room.
- relatic2 joined the chat room.
- Hachima: Where will the torrent be posted?
- evildave666: emmettoc: Yeah, that sounds right.
- nanashi____: want gox boss going a jail for crime against user
- emma: nanashi____: - fraud deserves to be revealed. innocent customer information doesn't. Okay?
- reb0rn: nansi ne seri
- gmaxwell: nanashi____: if you need someone to handle the data with respect for personal info, let me know and I can connect you with someone trustworthy.
- ToasterOven: dizko: glad your back
- gmaxwell: (who can also validate the integrity of the data)
- evildave666: though probably incorrect, since the banker was saying from japanese people but really meant via domestic transfer.
- nanashi____: passport copy not release
- pasod: nanashi____: tell your friends to respect users personal information please
- nanashi____: they look for non personal document at moment
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