Skull's endless reluctance to do what is right

[6:12 PM] jack879: And regarding segmented...though a lot of people want it, I got mixed responses as to how to implement it. If it's on SRC, then the only seemingly viable options are pushing it into ILs, making a separate category (difficulty is barely relevant as is, let alone any hard low% segmented runs that exist), or a separate page like speedrun.com/mpseg
[6:39 PM] jack879: Think about it a little and maybe you can stumble on something that works
[6:39 PM] jack879: No real rush because I want it done properly the 1st time
[7:05 PM] Skull64: do you really think i haven't thought about it
[7:05 PM] jack879: No
[7:06 PM] jack879: Just figured I'd ask in case you thought of something I hadn't
[7:09 PM] jack879: and also wanted your opinion on what would be best (least worst, rather)
[7:10 PM] Skull64: my opinion on the least worst option is to not do it
[7:10 PM] jack879: least worst realistic option
[7:11 PM] Skull64: what are you even talking about
[7:11 PM] jack879: Should I just do it and wait for you to remove it
[7:12 PM] jack879: I'm asking what you think would work best from the options I've thought of or what you've thought of besides not doing it, because people actually want it...
[7:12 PM] Skull64: you keep saying people actually want it
[7:12 PM] Skull64: yet you are consistently the only person who ever brings it up(edited)
[7:12 PM] Skull64: and then when people support it they don't talk about the negatives
[7:12 PM] Skull64: because of course on paper it's a good idea
[7:13 PM] jack879: I made the forum thread and people responded because the opportunity presented itself
[7:13 PM] jack879: What are the negatives
[7:13 PM] jack879: please explain it to me
[7:13 PM] jack879: I WANT to know.
[7:14 PM] Skull64: didn't i already post all of them in my post in your thread
[7:14 PM] Skull64: that post was meant to be comprehensive
[7:15 PM] jack879: The only one that struck me was the shitty website design which could be circumvented or ignored.
[7:15 PM] Skull64: there's 2 goddamn segmented runs per year
[7:15 PM] jack879: So what
[7:15 PM] jack879: Less work
[7:16 PM] Skull64: everybody in the community already knows about them and how to find them and they're tracked in the google doc where we have full control over how things are categorized
[7:16 PM] jack879: I'd really rather have segmented runs which people want on speedrun.com to be on speedrun.com than an unofficial document that isn't even mentioned on speedrun.com.
[7:16 PM] Skull64: it's no less official than speedrun.com
[7:17 PM] Skull64: i really don't get why you care about this so much
[7:17 PM] Skull64: i knew this conversation was going to turn into segmented speedruns on speedrun.com for the 15th time
[7:17 PM] jack879: Because I invested time and it's something that doesn't hurt anything
[7:18 PM] Skull64: i have already stated my opinion that presenting inaccurate leaderboards does hurt things
[7:18 PM] Skull64: and that it's better to not put out a leaderboard at all than an inaccurate one
[7:19 PM] jack879: I don't see the problem only posting runs with 2 or more segments.
[7:19 PM] Skull64: even worse imo
[7:19 PM] jack879: The issue isn't the definition but the fact that they aren't represented at all.
[7:19 PM] Skull64: literally getting penalized for having to do everything in 1 take
[7:19 PM] jack879: Penalized?
[7:20 PM] Skull64: yes penalized by not showing up next to runs that were done in an easier mode
[7:20 PM] Skull64: t3 wouldn't even be on the leaderboard
[7:20 PM] Skull64: what kind of leaderboard is that
[7:20 PM] jack879: It's not easier it just hasn't been played as much in the modern era
[7:20 PM] jack879: Who cares about t3 showing up
[7:20 PM] Skull64: easier for a given time
[7:21 PM] Skull64: it's easier to segmented 53 than SS 53
[7:21 PM] jack879: Times are irrelevant. It's the optimal method of getting the fastest time.
[7:21 PM] jack879: And it holds a lot of history and important runs that are not shown on the boards as of now
[7:21 PM] jack879: which is why people want it there
[7:21 PM] jack879: That's kind of why I made the thread in the first place