The Convo

Roy - Today at 5:42 PM
Roy - Today at 9:24 AM
i am going to get help painting the grass from my daughter.
just trying to figure out the process
i tried to use a flat 2d grass image before. and it stretched it all kinds of funny. and the larger blocks wouldnt load the image or whatever.
I replaced the 3D grass textures with a solid color texture and manually made color/bump/paint maps with paint.(edited)
now with the new unity the 3d grass is all out of focus.
so I am asking. how do you make the maps? do you load the object in gimp/photoshop? do you load a .jpg or .png of the object in gimp/photoshop?(edited)
Anonomoosle - Today at 5:43 PM
@Rhea Sorry for pinging, but you might be able to help
Rhea does a lot of texturing, modding, and modelling so she might be able to help
Roy - Today at 5:44 PM
lol that was to Rhea
Rhea went offline
Anonomoosle - Today at 5:45 PM
Ah
Roy - Today at 5:47 PM
been trying to figure this out since i started making the grass
no one knows? lol.
Roy - Today at 6:12 PM
guess its a trade secret.
Anonomoosle - Today at 6:13 PM
People might not have seen it?
Roy - Today at 6:14 PM
i wish there was a program i could use to load the object and hit a button to create the maps automaticly.
3d builder kinda does that but its not a texture map i guess that it creates alongside the .obj file. 3D Builder is what i used to make the mesh for the blocks in the first place.(edited)
blender tutorial is all sorts of complicated with setting up the scene and crap. which i did. but got overwhelmed by the sheer volume of painting I would have to do.(edited)
which is why it has a base solid texture that is out of focus now.
thats question 1 of 2 about texturing blocks in this game.
question 2 might be resolved by solving question 1.
but question 2 is: how do I get the texture to span all the blocks in one unbroken seemless pattern? sorry if i dont express myself so clearly.
my textures do this: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/852720084076052700/5CA9AE1B065F25C33562CE7FD5574676A83C428D/

another trade secret it would seem.(edited)
Rhea - Today at 6:42 PM
You do that by making the block map take up a very small part of the image
then in FtD, there's a material setting you choose
Roy - Today at 6:46 PM
lol ty ill try to decipher that :smiley:
Rhea - Today at 6:48 PM
it's a lot easier to show you
Roy - Today at 6:48 PM
I wish I had gone to schoole for this
Rhea - Today at 6:48 PM
but harder since we're using different programs
Roy - Today at 6:48 PM
ya i dont want to use blender
to hard
i will install gimp
Rhea - Today at 6:49 PM
I never went to school for it either. I just teach myself bits from onine tutorials and websites
Roy - Today at 6:49 PM
same here
Rhea - Today at 6:49 PM
gimp and blender do different things
they can be used together
Roy - Today at 6:49 PM
oh duh brain fart
Rhea - Today at 6:49 PM
but they don't replace each other
I prefer Maya
which you can download a student version for free
Roy - Today at 6:49 PM
ok i use 3D builder for the .obj's
works well free with win 10
already installed
i dont have photoshop. so ill get gimp now
so in maya
you make the .obj. and then export what to gimp?
you have to do something to go from maya to gimp right?
Rhea - Today at 6:52 PM
you export as an obj
that obj is then its own thing
which FtD can load
gimp is for making textures for it
Roy - Today at 6:52 PM
k im that far... not gimp far
Rhea - Today at 6:52 PM
Do you have maya downloaded?
Roy - Today at 6:53 PM
no do i need it?
ok got gimp installed
i have the obj files. i need to load in maya?
which version of maya?
Maya
Maya Extension
Maya LT
Maya LT Extension?
Roy - Today at 7:07 PM
still working on getting maya.  you sure i need this? what do you do in maya?
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:08 PM
mad hax!
Roy - Today at 7:08 PM
wont let me get it
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:09 PM
u need to use a student account
u can also use blender
Roy - Today at 7:09 PM
im not a student. it doesnt acccept edx.org as an institute
i use 3d builder.
its another program like them
the same process should work in theory with it as with maya or blender? its just no one will tell me what they do in maya
ive looked up tutorials on blender. and its complicated scene setting up.
i need to use 3d builder
its already installed on every pc in this house
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:11 PM
3d builder?
Roy - Today at 7:12 PM
except mine now that i reverted to win 7
preinstalled application in win 10
so ya 6 pc's 5 of which have 3D Builder preinstalled.
so anyone with win 10 can make 3d blocks for this game
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:16 PM
oh that thing...
Roy - Today at 7:17 PM
yup. works just fine. wish i still had it on my pc. for now i have to switch back and forth between my laptop and pc to edit my .obj files(edited)
I started with a 1x1x1 test block. imported it. then saved and resized it untill it came out the same size(edited)
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:18 PM
blender, is free!
Roy - Today at 7:18 PM
blender is a pain to use(edited)
3d builder was simple and easy to use
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:19 PM
its great when u get used to it
Roy - Today at 7:19 PM
haha ya i used it way back when i was messing with mesh for sl.
DJFlaisch - Today at 7:19 PM
sketchup is probally the worst
Roy - Today at 7:20 PM
thats the google one?
think i might have tried to use it... but blender was better to me at that time
though always a pain in the arse to get working with SL till some version of blender made it easier.
hmmm ok i have gimp open...
what do i import to gimp?
keep in mind i have to explain to a 10 year old girl how to do this.(edited)
standard size for 1x1x1 in 3DBuilder is 25.4³. size in FTD itself when imported was 0.0395.
for anyone interested in making blocks
is setting up the scene a standard across the board with blender and maya?
Rhea - Today at 8:14 PM
Back
sorry
You can use blender if you want
Maya or Blender
Roy - Today at 8:27 PM
np. im here and there trying to get stuff sorted in real life. Three kids can be hard to direct sometimes.(edited)
I need the explanaition for maya so i can try to adapt it for 3DBuilder, or if i can not, keep pursuing maya and use the free trial instead.(edited)
^.^(edited)
once you have the model/mesh textured/painted in maya/blender you do what?(edited)
Roy - Today at 9:01 PM
what's the next step?
trade secret lol
no matter what game or what program im using no one will explain this step. or lead me to such a confusing guide that i just give up in frustration.
instead of just saying... i export it via this button or i take a screenshot and edit that. or whatever it is they do. like setting up a scene in blender using lighting and blah blah blah. but no one says how they get the whatever it is they get to import into photoshop or gimp.
so again i ask what are you importing into gimp or photoshop?
the *.obj file or a *.jpg or a *.png file?
Rhea - Today at 9:24 PM
Nothing. You make your material in gimp or photoshop
then you open it in maya or blender
this will be in something like assign new material, then by file, then select the file
then you need to map it, by opening the UV editor in blender or maya
Roy - Today at 9:25 PM
then how do i get the mat?
Rhea - Today at 9:25 PM
Make it
Roy - Today at 9:25 PM
for ftd?
Rhea - Today at 9:25 PM
Draw circles or paint lines
w/e
For FtD, find the textures in the game files
Roy - Today at 9:25 PM
im trying to create the textures myself
Rhea - Today at 9:26 PM
Then I don't know what you're asking
Roy - Today at 9:26 PM
there is no default texture for 3d grass
ok you dont know i see
ty
Rhea - Today at 9:26 PM
Is English your native language?
Wogsethan - Today at 9:26 PM
@Roy
Roy - Today at 9:26 PM
yes.
Wogsethan - Today at 9:27 PM
i dont think you understand what a texture is
it is an image that is mapped to the model
you have to make this image
Roy - Today at 9:27 PM
yes
how?
Wogsethan - Today at 9:27 PM
and the mapping coordinates of the model
you have to do that yourself
Roy - Today at 9:27 PM
how?
Wogsethan - Today at 9:27 PM
it is an image
how do people greate images?
Roy - Today at 9:27 PM
how do i get the image?
Rhea - Today at 9:27 PM
DRAW IT
Wogsethan - Today at 9:28 PM
painting, drawing, photoshop, gimp, paint.net
Roy - Today at 9:28 PM
ok ty thats what i wanted
Wogsethan - Today at 9:28 PM
you dont just get ome magical end all be all
you have to actually make it
Roy - Today at 9:28 PM
you say make it
Wogsethan - Today at 9:28 PM
...
what
Roy - Today at 9:28 PM
not how to make it
Rhea - Today at 9:28 PM
How do you not know what making an image is?
Wogsethan - Today at 9:28 PM
^
Rhea - Today at 9:28 PM
wait
Roy - Today at 9:28 PM
because obviously the way im doing it is wrong
Rhea - Today at 9:28 PM
how old are you?
Roy - Today at 9:28 PM
37
Wogsethan - Today at 9:29 PM
wait
you have UV mapped your object, right?(edited)
Rhea - Today at 9:29 PM
No.
Roy - Today at 9:29 PM
i dont know what that is
Rhea - Today at 9:29 PM
This is what I explained earlier.
Roy - Today at 9:30 PM
you explained that i should texture the stuff in blender
Rhea - Today at 9:30 PM
"then you need to map it, by opening the UV editor in blender or maya"(edited)
Roy - Today at 9:30 PM
or maya
but you didnt say what to do with it from there
k fuck
Rhea - Today at 9:30 PM
Because as I said
Roy - Today at 9:31 PM
ty
Rhea - Today at 9:31 PM
I don't have Blender
And you don't have Maya
Wogsethan - Today at 9:31 PM
its been too long ince ive worked with blender
im no help with it
but you know what is
Youtube
Google
etc etc
Roy - Today at 9:32 PM
i can get maya if i need it. but i have to get a 10 year old to do this too. so if i can avoid using maya and stick to 3dbuilder id rather do it that way. uv mapping i dnk if 3dbuilder has that. i do know that it creates an additional file that suposedly is not what i need.
Wogsethan - Today at 9:32 PM
they are your best friends
Rhea - Today at 9:32 PM
You need to get a 10 year old to do this
xD
I love how insulting you're being without intending that
Wogsethan - Today at 9:32 PM
you can get maya for free lol
Roy - Today at 9:32 PM
well i need to get a 10 year old to help paint the grass ya
Rhea - Today at 9:32 PM
If this was easy enough that 10 year olds could do it
Everyone would make a mod
Roy - Today at 9:32 PM
thers 100s of blades of grass
Rhea - Today at 9:33 PM
...
Do you
think we mean paint
as in
physically paint
Roy - Today at 9:33 PM
uh ya?
Rhea - Today at 9:33 PM
I didn't realise you where trolling
My bad
Roy - Today at 9:33 PM
im sitting here with gimp open and im trolling? no im tring to figure out what to do
Rhea - Today at 9:34 PM
How are you planning on getting your physical painting onto the computer, can I ask?
Roy - Today at 9:34 PM
to complicated.
omg
nvm
is english your first language?
Wogsethan - Today at 9:34 PM
yes.
Roy
have you heard of digital painting?
or google?
Roy - Today at 9:35 PM
i have edited stuff with the paint programs
Rhea - Today at 9:35 PM
Ok
Roy - Today at 9:35 PM
which i consider painting
Rhea - Today at 9:35 PM
So why do you need me to explain this to you further?
Roy - Today at 9:35 PM
or texturing
because it wasnt working and i wanted to know how to do it right
Rhea - Today at 9:36 PM
Have you opened your texture as a material in Blender or Maya yet, like I said?
Roy - Today at 9:36 PM
i have done that in blender in the past yes
ive gone all the way to setting up my scene in blender and it got so complicated that i couldnt follow it anymore
so again nvm its to complicated. ty for your time and i aplogise