<Lokar> Lurker is going to be running late
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<Lokar> so
<Silence> sup
<Lokar> lonely in here :(
<Silence> well shrike doesn't show up till later
<Silence> lurker is going to be late
<Silence> and ent is ???
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<Holle_> still bit busy IRL but once I'm back I'll say what I've been thinking about character-wise now that my ideas have solidified a little bit
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<Silence> lurker said hell be late so going to wait for shrike
<Silence> hmm
<Silence> https://swiki.fancruft.com/index.php?title=Fallen_League_Goals
<Silence> Should be showing up soon
<Silence> do we have Exhack, Holle___ and Lokar?
<Lokar> i am here
<Exhack> yes
<Silence> Anyway I'll ramble on about the Star League for a moment
<Silence> the Star League is the dominant power in the known space, its stronghold is the Taranis sector, which has basically taken over either by Houses submiting it to and bringing brought one as member houses or being conquered
<Silence> Some decades before the start of the campaign, the Star League discovered the Verge, the sector of space that was advanced more technology and economically but more disunited, the Star League seeing the threat of nascent Verge launched a pretty impressive and bloody Red Conqusitda the first major intersellar and really intersector war since the destruction of Mereridian and the Republic
<Holle___> (back now)
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<Silence> Since war is expensive and the feudal makeup of the Star League as well as general warlordism, most of the Verge is occupied by fedual troops, often bands of jumped up mercs turned knights who are supplied by Star League's industiral worlds
<Silence> across the Verge worlds that would of been conquerers are now treated harshly as most of the people have been enserfed for foreign overlords, put on their thrones by buster cannons of mortarheads
<Silence> The other major interstellar polities that Star League contends with that can't easily be subdued with military force is the Church of Enoch which has its tendrils on worlds both within the League and outside, and Enoch is home to vast quantity of lostech mortarheads and warships, which means the Director-King of Haln, First Lord of the Star League has to tread carefully, mostly has attempted to co-op the Church
<Silence> so alot of politics there about cornations and church blessings
<Silence> the other major interstellar group is the various Pleadiean worlds that are out there, many of them beyond charted space, they tend to bribe the Star League, but the few attempts at engaging them military has saw castophric losses
<Silence> internal politics has seen the First Lord in the recent years attempt to centeralize power, which occasionaly meets with success such as the Supression of House d'Este and its world, but has caused alot of concern, one of the reasons why the revolt is so succesful is that the Great Houses had only in recent years been sending token forces to the conquered Verge mostly to support family members and their own little fiefdoms
<Silence> Matters are not helped by the fact that Director-King has over the recent decades become complete creature of his whims and the Court has become a increasing perlious place for anybody high or lowborn to exist in, if not for the effiency of his secrect police as well own considerable amount of military forces directly to him, there would of been a civil war long ago.
<Silence> So that's the Star League in a nutshell
<Holle> hm, I see
<Lokar> hm
<Lokar> So could you explain Huse d'Este?
<Holle> ah yes, that'd work for me too
<Holle> I'd explain what I had in my mind afterwards
<Holle> since that's relevant
<Silence> House d'Este
<Silence>  Former home to House d'Este, the rebellion of 321 is still fresh in the minds of many of the inhabitants as well as the large armies that occupy this well developed water world. House d'Este fall from grace stems from their involvement in supposed conspiracy to incite rebellion and free the serfs of House Bao. Several of the members are still in hiding, and the rebellion and its repression has lead to wide-scale piracy as
<Silence> d'Este house forces had been one of the best space forces in known space.
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<Silence> House d'Este was a member state that joined voluintarily back in the early formation
<Lokar> was the fleet neturalized?
<Silence> more merchant princes than warlords, they were a naval house
<Silence> a large portion of the d'Este fleet is still out there
<Silence> The downfall of Gothenburg (the planet)
<Silence> was that the Bao forces was able to drop a heavy army on the surface
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<Silence> and unable to supply the fleet, half the fleet died trying to force a decesive battle, and the remainder fled to fight another day
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<Silence> hi
<Shrike> yo
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<Shrike> what is up
<Silence> talking setting elements and then going to have people talk about what they want
<Silence> https://pastebin.com/NtRJD7wU
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<Holle_> too naive! fish just empower me
<Holle_> yeah, ATM topic was House d'Este
<Silence> Anyway there is mixed opinions about the Suppressions
<Silence> Several members of d'Este were in fact busy trying to organize the serfs of Bao's worlds, but they were young and it wasn't clear that it would go anywhere.  Many of the Great Houses view it as Bao's attempt to show supremacy while neutralizing a potential rival
<Silence> And rumors were that in the days after the fall of the d'Este, many of the Great Houses's suffered "piracy" that was little more sanctuary and aid given a legal cover
<Silence> any other questions
<Silence> https://swiki.fancruft.com/index.php?title=Fallen_League_Goals
<Silence> if not I say we should introduce the characters, and have them give their thoughts about the two matters at hand
<Silence> 1. Where do they want to Star League Go
<Silence> 2. And what is to be done about Arden, the revolting Verge planet
<Shrike> Nothing it seems!
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<Holle_> for reference, I've mostly been pondering between two options as far as characters go: (well, still am pondering)
<Holle_> 1) Knight Sorta-Errant - something of a knight in shining armour kind of character with a Royal Mortarhead; a Great House noble who is a semi-constant headache for her family due to a combination of her position, idealism and also being dense as a lead brick. Bit of a battle maniac.
<Holle_> 2) Niva Sails Again - boat lady with a 3rd Gen Battleship, dark secrets and a book full of grudges; dark secret likely being association with House d'Este remnants and/or the vile spectre of republicanism. Knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy and all of them are pir- freedom fighters
<Holle_> so I figured I'd listen for a bit to see where the wind blows re: the rest of the party
<Silence> both are cool
<Lokar> So if we put down house noble does that make us the head of house, the heir or a member of the family?
<Holle_> a member I think
<Holle_> since heir is the next (and most expensive) tier
<Silence> Great House Noble is non heirs
<Silence> so second sons and cousins
<Lokar> ok
<Exhack> Was just showering.
<Lokar> Jonathan (Jon) Walmas is 3rd or 4th child of the large House Walmas, looking for adventure to carve out a hold for himself. Like most of his House Walmas he supports the Leauge and hopes to see it move in a more expansionist direction. As for Arden order should be restored and new nobles to be instated to bring the rebellious world back into the fold.
<Silence> ok
<Silence> So a return to the glory days of the Conquista of Verge> And the restortation of League control on Arden
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<Lokar> yeah
<FBH> I guess I can log
<Lokar> And of course House Walmas will be there as in days old.
<Shrike> if I am stuck as Lady Krill you can be Cadet of House Walrus
<Lokar> lol
<Silence> heh
<Holle_> ha
<Silence> https://swiki.fancruft.com/index.php?title=Fallen_League_Goals
<Exhack> What does High Noble normally represent?
<Holle_> hm, I suppose with 5 battlesheep, Lurker has the party taxi angle pretty well-covered...
<Holle_> out of curiosity, what would/could Artifact Weapon represent on a warship, if it even applies?
<Silence> Like being a Duke in service to a planetary ruler
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<Silence> Great House are planet scale nobles
<Silence> let me pastebin what we had Lurker
<Holle_> speak of the devil
<Silence> https://pastebin.com/NifVjBiY
<Silence> Artifact Weapon is mostly mech
<Silence> if it did apply on warship it be a buster canon
<Holle_> mhm, that's about what I figured
<Holle_> from what I'm seeing from the mortarhead stat spread, melee is more oriented towards fighting other mortarheads and archery more vs conventional forces?
<Exhack> Hmmm.
<Silence> somewhat
<Holle_> which one buster cannons fall under?
<Silence> archery
<Holle_> roger
<I00thlurker> hrrrmmm
<Holle_> I figure I'll go with Option 1 and House Lambert instead, for greater "what is she doingggg" factor
<I00thlurker> silence how in-setting would you say space nomads traveling around sector to sector are for Imperial Stars
<Holle_> deployment begins soon brb
<Silence> somewhat rare
<Silence> but its not like setting breaking
<Silence> depends what are you trading
<Lokar> (DEATH!)
<I00thlurker> right that was the angle I was thinking of for the character
<I00thlurker> also yeah they're convenient mercenaries for the First Lord
<I00thlurker> and that was also the cover for why a Master level diver hadn't been scooped by the church yet
<Exhack> Hmm.
<Exhack> I'm split between two concepts at the moment.
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<Exhack> The first is a pretty conventional planetary noble pledged to whoever in the party is a house person.
<Exhack> And the second is a semi-famous travelling demagogue.
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<I00thlurker> the alternative is she's a rogue Pleiadian with House D'este survivors
<I00thlurker> which requires less setting fudging probably
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<I00thlurker> in either concept her overarching goal would almost certainly share the same element of being hunted by the Church since they're after Divers, if I understood correctly
<I00thlurker> and therefore being pro anything that limits the influence of the Enochians, and if that means giving the Star League a stronger hand well
<Silence> They're after divers who are not Church approved
<Silence> rogues
<Silence> well the later one is more interesting to me
<Silence> if you want my opinion
<I00thlurker> sweet, let's go with that then
<Silence> as for Exhack
<Silence> first is easy to play
<Silence> second would be interesting though, thanks to Shrike
<Silence> you guys got the secrect police commisar tagging along with you
<I00thlurker> oh man oh man
<I00thlurker> :D
<Holle__> oh dear
<Shrike> I'm still not sure exactly what I'm gonna end up doing
<Lokar> many a BLAM will be found?
<Silence> well yeah
<Silence> Shrike instead of being the probationary master diver warrior
<Silence> could be your commissar
<Holle__> here  we go for now: https://swiki.fancruft.com/index.php?title=Amnelia
<Holle__> went with "no boat, wrecked her old battleship on a bad plan because Rival and now family doesn't want to give her a new one for the time being"
<Holle__> with Lurker playing someone apparently sensible I suppose I'll have to cover the "damn fool of the party" niche ;p
<I00thlurker> >sensible
<I00thlurker> well, we'll see about that
<Exhack> lol
<Exhack> Okay, I think I have my concept.
<Silence> so what Lurker and Holle character's opinion of the league and arden
<I00thlurker> what do Pleiadians learn about the League?
<Shrike> if I'm going to be the commisar, I'm going to be the one who's independently wealthy and putting in time as part of the trust fund requirements. :p
<I00thlurker> obviously it's definitely going to be tilted negatively by the d'este survivors
<I00thlurker> well, negatively to the House of Boa
<I00thlurker> *Bao
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<Silence> could be a personal goal
<Silence> Restore my house
<Silence> kill Bao
<Silence> become first lord
<I00thlurker> but also probably in a reformist direction given that it's the younger ones and organized peasants who survived in its scattered navy
<Ent> hi