<kappaluppa> I am in the middle of a huge huge debate on a subject and and I am looking for someone who can give me about 10 minutes to help me understand if I am approaching something correctly or not

<BenjaSattva> I am trying to dynamically set the title on a panel page consisting of 15+ views driven by a Taxonomy Term argument.  So far it is blank or Displays [cat] or [term-name].  I've tried Page_Title, Novewords_Page_Title, and Taxonomy_Title to no avail.  Any ideas?

<kthomas1> kappaluppa,

<kthomas1> justask?

<readyman> ownage: Not sure of the context. If it's not in your .info file, then I don't think it will appear in your template.

<Druplicon> Just ask your question.  No need to ask to ask,   ask if anyone knows or is using something,  or other preface.  Just Ask.

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<kappaluppa> ok...

<kthomas1> :P

<kappaluppa> I am working on a site that we are updating look and feel. the site is established, and multilingual

<kappaluppa> there are some nodes that have titles, images and links that need to be changed to reflect the styles

<kappaluppa> one content type is a carousel

<kappaluppa> there are new images for the carousel

<kappaluppa> nothing else changes

<kappaluppa> my approach was to remove the image and add the new image

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<kappaluppa> there are four such instances all views

<kappaluppa> since the site is many languages there are repeated nodes in the different languages

<kiwiact> kappaluppa: I don't quite understand the problem

<kappaluppa> again, my approach was to change the existing node

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<kappaluppa> i was told this is the wrong way to approach it

<kthomas1> what's the alternative ;) ?

<kappaluppa> that the drupal way is to recreate about 100 nodes

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<kthomas1> I'd certainly have revisions on

<kappaluppa> all with the new information

<kthomas1> but if it's a revision/change and not new info,

<kthomas1> then creating new nodes seems the back arseward way

<kappaluppa> its a change in the node title such as from: this is fall  TO: this is spring

<kthomas1> himm

<kthomas1> *hmmm

<kappaluppa> three fields: title, image, url

<kthomas1> well,  maybe your title should be a subtitle

<kthomas1> but as long as it's the same *think* and you're *updating* it

<kthomas1> "House on 200 Alberta St."

<kthomas1> "this is a picture in spring"

<kthomas1> "this is a picture in fall"

<sam1am> How can I verify the machine name of a view and its displays in D7?

<kthomas1> it would seem odd to me to create new nodes each season,  all else aside

<kappaluppa> that was my thought

<kthomas1> assuming no parent relationship etc etc

<kappaluppa> also, this is the 3rd season

<kappaluppa> the views are created via content type

<kthomas1> now,  if you're trying to archive it all ...

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<kthomas1> then you might have a different data architecture

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<kthomas1> * and keep that archive live and easy to find

<kappaluppa> this is what I am told. that changing the title and the image in the node is destroying data

<kthomas1> but these days,  even revisions are easy to search

<kthomas1> do you have revisions on?

 kthomas1 believes in revisions on by default

<kappaluppa> that's what i asked. i was told we can't have revisions on for everything

<kappaluppa> i think the same way.

 kthomas1 actually thinks you probably should not be able to turn revisions off

<kappaluppa> however, things are changed once every four months

<kthomas1> why can't you?

<kappaluppa> that's my question

<kappaluppa> too

<kthomas1> especially if it's only changed every four months

<kthomas1> it's only disk space

<kthomas1> disk is cheaper every day!

<kappaluppa> lol

<kappaluppa> here is my thought as well

<kappaluppa> we have three seasons so far

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<kappaluppa> one node type has 39 nodes, 3 for each language

<kappaluppa> if this is the 3rd season we should have about 120 unpublished nodes by now

<kappaluppa> there are only the 39 published nodes

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<GrecKo> When I change the settings for "Error messages to display", it keeps falling back to "All messages"

<GrecKo> I can't seem to change it :/

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<kthomas1> kappaluppa, yeah,  sure, you never want to destroy data inadvertently

<kthomas1> but your first guarantee against that,  is revisions tracking

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<kthomas1> data architecture is an entirely different consideration

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<kappaluppa> if recreating the nodes was the way to go, I'd think we'd have 120 nodes of this content type with 80 of them unpublished

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<kthomas1> well,  you can imagine something like TV series--artist--episodes,

<kthomas1> with a bunch of node relations

<kthomas1> all depends on your actual application

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<kappaluppa> its image & url, with three nodes displayed in a carousel

<kappaluppa> very very simple

<kappaluppa> except there are 7 languages

<kappaluppa> so now we have 21 nodes, called in the view by language

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<kthomas1> you keep a node for each language?

<kappaluppa> the site is that way. some things are translated, some are not

<kappaluppa> i have not worked with translation much so i don't exactly know how it works

<kthomas1> v?

<Druplicon> What version of Drupal?  The answer can vary widely depending on your version.

<kappaluppa> when using translation, if i create a node in English, how do the over translated version get created

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<kappaluppa> d6

<kappaluppa> how do the other language version get created

<kthomas1> well,  depends on what kind of translating you implement

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<kthomas1> but in D7 it's certainly possible to just enter different language versions of title & body for each node

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<kappaluppa> when i open say the English version of the node I see an option for translate

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<kappaluppa> when i click on that tab i see a list of related nodes in different languages

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<kthomas1> sounds typical

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<kthomas1> wait,  it looks like it's working this time around ... !