Net Neutrality is bullshit

Kudomundo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFhT6H6pRWg&lc=Ugx2ptzcotdD2poHwnN4AaABAg
Kudomundo: blackfaux
20 minutes ago
No one is repealing "net neutrality". We are repealing a bill that was titled "Net Neutrality" for the sole reason to confuse people who do zero research, like you.
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Oniichan: NN btfo
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0dds_0f_Even: Net Neutrality got canned today? What's the future of the internet now?
Nielk1: oh thank god.
Nielk1: they killed the thing they kept calling "
Nielk1: Net Neutrality" for some odd reason
Nielk1: now things will go back to normal.  The FTC will deal with issues after they happen, there will not be massvie costs to following regulations by the FTC were you have to pre-certify EVERTHING, small ISPs will be able to compete with the big ISPs again
Nielk1: oh, and anti-trust laws can now apply to ISPs (they couldn't during NN) and now facebook and google are shitting themselves that if anti-trust hits the ISPs it will hit them next
Nielk1: in other words, things are good and will likely get better
0dds_0f_Even: 2 years ago I was a NN supporter but after witnessing so much censorship/monopolies from big tech companies I'm not sure what to think anymore. Hopefully the ISPs won't get much free reign
Nielk1: I supported NN 2 years ago, because I was supporting the concept
Nielk1: we didnt get the concept
Nielk1: we were closer under just FTC
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: wew
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: The funny thing is
Nielk1: I mean, I am sure you get how big corporations love regulations because they can absorb the cost the the small companies cant?
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: People like us, and especially people like me, would get fucked over either way
Nielk1: NN was the same way with ISPs
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: Due to wrongthink
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: Nobody supporting NN ACTUALLY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT GOOGLE, YOUTUBE, TWITTER, FACEBOOK, ETC. FUCKING US OVER
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: THEY ONLY CARE WHEN A GODDAMNED ISP DOES IT
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING YET
Nielk1: the best part was the fact that NN's prevention of throttling could be subverted just by having an ISP call itself something slightly differnt
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: ALL WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IS SPECULATION ABOUT INTERNET PACKAGES
Nielk1: I can't wait for the rural ISPs to rise again
Nielk1: radio modems here we come
0dds_0f_Even: from what I witnessed those for NN were against corrupt ISPs & those against NN hate big tech companies that monoploize & destroy competition
Nielk1: NN ironicly helps the big ISPs
0dds_0f_Even: NN is an interesting debate to say the least becuase I seen strong arguments for both sides
Nielk1: it protects them, removes responsability, and the fact they had to have the government pre-approve every buisness plan they would ever have under it, the costs of doing so kept competition down.
Nielk1: besides, google owns their own undersea cables
Nielk1: NN on the wires doesn't help them, it's irrelevent
Nielk1: they have a world wide intranet
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: Also thank God that you agree with us on this, Bitter
Nielk1: now, how long until a bunch of idiots hang themsleves with CAT-5e cables?
Nielk1: or maybe they will just "spam uselessly at the whitehouse.gov IP", 'cause screaming helplessly at the sky worked so well
0dds_0f_Even: is it true there was a bomb threat from the FCC
0dds_0f_Even: over the vote
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: How much does Youtube and Google and so forth even pay for internet?
Nielk1: yes
Nielk1: they had to sweep for bombs
Nielk1: as I said, google has a world wide lan that exists outside the internet
Nielk1: so they actualy dont even need to use the internet for any more than local delivery
Nielk1: pretty sure they're afraid fo being regulated themselves and thourhg that NN would protect them by keeping eyes on the ISPs
0dds_0f_Even: usually neutral on a lot of things but I can't support big tech comapnies censoring opinions
0dds_0f_Even: hopefully wit htis repeal ISPs won't have much reign
0dds_0f_Even: becuase they're garbage too
Nielk1: FTC still handles it
Nielk1: and it's no longer "pre-crime" anymore
0dds_0f_Even: How trustworthy are ISPs before Net Neutrality was a law?
0dds_0f_Even: before 2015
Oniichan: trustworhty in what regard
Oniichan: they throttled the shit out of things for sure
0dds_0f_Even: like not throttling & no censorship
Oniichan: idk about censorship
Oniichan: but throttling p2p was a thing
Nielk1: they still throttled P2P after btw
0dds_0f_Even: I think one example there was pearl jam's performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQH1tp8_zAA
0dds_0f_Even: where AT&T censored them
0dds_0f_Even: for a george bush reason I think
0dds_0f_Even: all I know is right now everybody on all platforms are probably about to riot
Nielk1: oh it's going to be funny
Nielk1: interestingly mobile carriers weren't covered under NN, which is why they had stuff like free unlimited spotify and stuff on a system that is normally chocking for bandwidth
0dds_0f_Even: I've never seen so mnay dislikes on youtube & posts all over the internet over this decision
Nielk1: they did stuff like that to compete with other mobile carriers
0dds_0f_Even: is the internrt in the states that bad over there?
Nielk1: no
Nielk1: people are just fucking retarded
Oniichan: we pay more for less
Oniichan: its great m8
Nielk1: like, the US has some sketchy internet in some places, but remember how big we are
Nielk1: the US is so massive actually getting internet set up with good speeds everywhere is a massive undertaking
Nielk1: note all countries with crazy fast internet are also tiny
Nielk1: people just like to ingore the logistics and demand the government fix it
Nielk1: and the government "fixing" it just causes it to stagnate
0dds_0f_Even: hopefully the riots won't be too bad & the ISPs can be kept o na leash to not fuck over anybody
Nielk1: Like I said, they've always been on the FTC leash
Nielk1: the FCC one was literally making them pay to validate they were going to commit a crime in the future
0dds_0f_Even: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22So%20the%20FCC%22&src=tren
0dds_0f_Even: current talk on twatter
0dds_0f_Even: wait since NN was a law how did it affect gaming online & etc.?
Nielk1: give me twitter shekles, I tried to tweet humor (I suck at it) https://twitter.com/Nielk1/status/941377644595118084
Nielk1: it wasnt a law
Nielk1: it was a regulation
Nielk1: it did jacks hit
Nielk1: except run some rural ISPs out of buisness
Oniichan: not all small ISPs were against NN
Oniichan: many saw it as a way to keep the big fucks in check from monopolizing everything
Nielk1: the end result of NN ironicly would ahve been everyone in the slow lane
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: While Google, Youtube, etc. would stay on the fast lane and not pay anywhere near as much as others
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: While also being free to restrict and censor the internet as muhc as they please
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM: Hence my emphasis on "IT'S OKAY WHEN THE NOT-ISPS DO IT"