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  1. >Fluttershy: Ah Nightmare Moon.
  2. It doesn't even fucking look like Nightmare Moon you dolt.
  3. I swear originally Luna was suppose to use her Nightmare Moon form the whole episode, otherwise everyone calling her that makes no fucking sense unless they're all autistic. Why didn't they do that in the first place?
  4. >Fluttershy: AAAAHHH
  5. Remember when this bitch would squeak instead of yell, like in Dragonshy?
  6. Remember when she had the smoothest and most relaxed voice and didn't sound like she's having an anxiety attack every few seconds?
  7. 10:29 They need better sound effects/sfx if they want this scene to be funny. Those barn destruction noises, sheep noises and horse noises aren't funny. Learn from Tom N Jerry, Ed Edd Eddy and other slapstick cartoons which use a good library of SFX.
  8. I would have used higher-pitched sfx like broken glass and lots of screaming(No Wilhelm screams).
  9. 10:36 Hey where's the third sound effect? That sfx was used in Bridle Gossip when Fluttershy kept nodding her head at Twilight's questions. But in Bridle Gossip it was used properly in context there, while in Luna Eclipsed they throw whatever they fuck comes to them. Recycling sound effects and music, but without utilizing the full library and properly in context.
  10. 10:40 Oh yeah sure she's allowed to levitate ponies, but dear god if she uses it in adventure episodes when it actually matters.
  11. >Okay. Okay. Okay.
  12. Not funny.
  13. >Perfect, lesson over. *hits the door*
  14. What the fuck was that, that slapstick was garbage. This director loves rushing everything.
  15. I guess it was remotely funny if you enjoy the quick sudden joke, but otherwise it's too short lived.
  16. >Luna: How is this?
  17. Still garbage.
  18. >Luna: How..about.. now?
  19. Sounds exactly like Rarity, you lazy cunt.
  20. >Luna: And how about now?
  21. Sounds like a teenager Rarity. Just don't.
  22. I bet this scene is how the voice direction went like when Faust left.
  23. >Tabitha: Hey are you sure this sounds good? I thought Derpy was a girl?
  24. Oh yes yes, you're doing just great, *sips coffee* like I could give a fuck to quality-check everytime.
  25. >Tabitha: What was that?
  26. >I said could you give me a clock to check the time?
  27. >Tabitha: Oh okay.
  28.  
  29. 11:20 Then she immediately uses the booming voice because...? retards don't learn?
  30. 11:40 Watch out, you almost blew your whole animation budget on that tweened jump.
  31.  
  32. >Time for plan B
  33. It's not really plan B if it's the exact same shit as plan A, but slightly different. You might as well call it A1,A2,A3
  34. "Luckily" they only repeat this Winter Wrap Up routine for 2 scenes from 10:00 to 15:00. Originally they also tried going to Rarity and dressing Luna up in pink. Luckily being a bittersweet term, because from 15:00 to 21:00 they waste time with even more cringeworthy shit. Why didn't they just let Luna interact with the Mane6 all at once? Are they so autistic they can't write proper character chemistry?
  35. Pinkie Pie instead repeats her yelling routine for 5 times in the episode. I wonder what the scenes with Pinkie and Dash helping Luna would have been like, probably much more fun than AJ and Rarity's. Originally Luna going to each pony by herself is what the fans envisioned as her introductory episode. Notice how the episode is told from Twilight's perspective and Luna plays as the secondary character.
  36.  
  37. 12:00 Now imagine if Luna was the executive director/writer behind this episode.
  38. >Luna: They never liked us, and they never shall.
  39. Well yeah, you write every cartoon like garbage and give it shoe-string budgets. Disney's Gummi Bears beat your Care Bears ass into oblivion. Then you have the balls to micro-manage a cartoon that wasn't doing too good in the first place.
  40. >Applejack: Fit in? Really?
  41. Yeah by the looks of it the executive was doing it on purpose. Considering Mike Vogel is a big fat autistic loser, I doubt he'll ever fit in with the talent. This guy gobbled down the brony bandwagonner attitude way down his throat. Why didn't this asshole just let MLP let live and prosper? Would it have imploded his egomaniac balls if he didn't intrude like a mental retard? Bronies, man. Bronies are assholes. What's worse is that anyone can become a brony, they were right when they said brony autism is a culture.
  42.  
  43. >Applejack: That's easy, all you gotta do is have the right attitude. Loosen up a bit. Be positive. Play a few games. Have some fun.
  44. >Applejack: Unless you have autism, then you're screwed.
  45. Autists don't know what fun and positivity is and never will. They can't be charming and funny worth a shit.
  46.  
  47. >Luna: What is fun?
  48. 1) (well yeah of course... executives don't have fun, executives aren't human beings. They're aliens in disguise.)
  49. 2) *facepalms* The prankster princess of the night doesn't know what fun is, great. Even Nightmare Moon can have fun.
  50. Even a fucking villain knows what FUN is to them!! and you mean to tell me this bitch is too depressed to have fun. Most villains had a harsh life and lived through it, they can have fun! in their own twisted ways.
  51. F.U.N. is when you... let me spell it out for you. F is for firing your employees for not agreeing with your script changes. U is for the Universe bowing down to your infinite stupidity. N is for acting like an autistic Nigger despite being white.
  52. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqhfLTsEeZg
  53.  
  54. You know the thing is that a Luna with a fun personality is actually easy to pull off as AJ's dialogue tells us.
  55. Cadence could have been a good fun character. Luna could have been fun. It's just that this autistic degenerate of an executive hates fun. He has his own way of "fun" but it's utterly lame, boring and wrong... wrong as in crashing and burning down this cartoon like the big guy he is, it's all part of his masterplan.
  56.  
  57. 13:41
  58. >Pumpkin tossing.
  59. >Spider throwing.
  60. Laaame!!, lame even for MLP standards. I've seen much better games for Halloween in real life, not just in cartoons.
  61. Apparently they really can't figure out some unique traditions and games for the cutsie girly fantasy land.
  62.  
  63. 14:17 >throws spider >Luna: Fun! Fun. Fun? Why yes I do in fact suffer from autism. :^) Uguu.
  64. 14:24 Oh wow finally a spell which wasn't a thundercloud. Too bad she doesn't use anything else.
  65. 14:50 Damn horses are retarded, running around like a bunch of headless chicken. At least they're interacting with the background props.
  66. 15:30 Nightmare Night is cancelled cause I say so. Yep definitely not crazy and arrogant, not one bit.
  67. Where is Celestia to kick her sister's ass anyway? The little ones always need a good ass whooping. (the ass she doesn't have)
  68. >Insulting celebration
  69. Well turning Celestia's sister into a yelling retard is very insulting. Turning Nightmare Moon into a fucking halloween prop is also insulting as hell to the previous character, imagine if was Celestia took Luna's place.
  70. >Cancelling the celebration cause things don't go my way. >Making children cry
  71. Not arrogant and ego-centric at all. Nope, not one bit.
  72. Just remove the statue and don't make it about Nightmare Moon. It's fucking weird that the ponies halloween revolves all around Nightmare Moon. What is there to celebrate? Her death? Halloween should be candy, the autumn season and whatever it is ponies do.
  73.  
  74. >Applejack: Ugh shoot, we had everything going our way. Luna was happy, everypony in town was happy.
  75. We'll need somebody to blame. Pinkie Pie!!! off with her head. This is the medieval times celebration after all, let's dump her in water like a witch. No seriously, that pink bitch needs her comeuppance. She needed her comeuppance since the first fucking episode, and feeling pinkie keen and Party of One, and pretty much a slap to the face every episode.
  76.  
  77. 16:00 Twilight: I'll do what I do best. Lecture her!!!
  78. Was that necessary? Why the yellow background? Why the victorious music? When Twilight already says it out loud?
  79. Autism is a hell of a drug, man. Also that's a parody of Twilight. Lecturing... no what she does best is magic, acting sane and being the main character. She's annoying and at her worst as a know-all, know-nothing preaching geek on her soapbox.
  80.  
  81. 16:06 Watch out, you might exceed the budget if you dare move that camera or try to use more than 1 background.
  82. 16:11 Waah wahh woe is me, after I acted like a crazy retard who deserves getting shunned. I really can't feel for this autist.
  83. This bridge scene seems to be the only instance where Luna goes all saddy waddy like in the fanfics where she has Fluttershy's personality.
  84. >Twilight: But you have to believe me when I tell you that Nightmare Night is one of the most popular celebrations we have.
  85. Ouch, my world building. No, I can't believe you, you're full of horse shit. Whatever happened to the seasonal celebrations like the Falling of the Leaves or Winter Wrap Up, or the princess related one like the Summer Sun Celebration shown in episodes 1 and 23.
  86. Shouldn't princess Luna have a Raise The Moon celebration?
  87.  
  88. >Luna: Adoring shrieks of the children as they run away.
  89. Oh god that voice. Tabitha sounds like Pepper Clark from Littlest Pet Shop. or Martha from Martha Speaks.
  90. I just love how from the many plethora of voices she had used in the past, she keeps switching only to every possible shitty voice she has in her vocal cords instead of just sticking with a few good ones.
  91.  
  92. 16:40
  93. She makes actual chicken sounds. Good job, at least you did that right. Too bad the chicken suit is still a parody of her stereotype.
  94. Actually why didn't they make a full-on cuckoo bird and why didn't they make a cuckoo clock joke about it? Apparently they're so dumb they didn't even notice the relation between the bird costume and Pinkie.
  95.  
  96. 16:51
  97. Rape. Rape in the dark and spoopy alley. I love Twilight's rape face.
  98. Not the exact comeuppance I had in mind, but still works.
  99. >There's something I want you to see. >Muh dick. >Muh horn
  100. >And I promise that it's safe, but you really(3x times) can't shriek. Do you promise not to shriek?
  101. No seriously the whole dialogue feels like a sex joke, it's sad how the dialogue writer didn't notice it.
  102. Oh nice Luna is joining in for a threesome.
  103. Yes, now give it to her! ... Pinkie Pie will never get beaten up, will she? Fucking cliches. If there's one cliche I love to see broken/modified is seeing the dumb one get beaten up. The dumb obnoxious spastic unfunny one getting told off with no remorse or after-apology.
  104. 17:36 Oh yeah Rainbow Dash is in this episode too, even briefly unlike Rarity.
  105. Too bad she never talks, interacts or acknowledges Luna.
  106. 17:42 Oh cmon they can't be that autistic to not see the obvious dirty joke in this.
  107. 17:51 >Pinkie Pie: Well, duh.
  108. Oh please slap her, beat her up, smack her smug face right the fuck there!!
  109. >Pinkie Pie: I know that. Sheesh, Twilight. I'm almost as big as her, how's she gonna gobble me up?
  110. Oh yeah that's why you kept shitting her pants over the thunderstorms. Lying douche, what a prideful bullshitting retard. Don't.. get me started on the vore fetish.
  111.  
  112. >Twilight Sparkle: So why do you keep running away and screaming?
  113. >Pinkie Pie: Sometimes it's just really fun to be scared!
  114. Punch her retard face right there. Call her out on her bullshit.
  115. "I'm totally not retarded u guise. I was just pretending!!" oh yeah the actual autist just "pretending" to be autistic. You can't pretend you're retarded, if you already are one.
  116. She is the dumbest piece of shit of a stereotype I've seen in a cartoon and in real life. She's not an idiot genius, she's a genuine mentally retard moron with slight superiority issues. Pinkie Pie is an annoying piece of shit who deserves to be the buttmonkey of ALL the jokes.
  117.  
  118. 18:33 Oh and Zecora is there too. Little Pip or Pipsqueak keeps getting extra lines, he lost his british accent.
  119. >Zecora: So Nightmare Moon might let us live.
  120. >Might let us live.
  121. That was heavy. I wonder how the censors didn't bitch about that.
  122. 18:52 Mayor Mare trying to scare the children...
  123. ... you were just scared of Nightmare Moon a few scenes ago, you hypocritical idiots.
  124. >Spike: Aw, the rainbow wig just kills it for me.
  125. So does this whole season 2 execution of It's a parody, but it's actually not. "I'm pretending to be retarded, but I am in fact retarded". Prideful idiots.
  126. >Applejack: Come on, kids! Doesn't that sound like fun?
  127. >Two fillies looking at each other - I think they lost it. Every adult's brain becomes senile eventually.
  128. 19:08 Also no I find it retar.. nah let's find another word. I find it in bad taste and uncouth to take away children's candy.
  129. >Pipsqueak: Goodbye, Nightmare Night. Forever. (That is one depressed kid)
  130. 19:27 oh hey it's actually motherfucking Nightmare Moon instead of Luna.
  131. She even has those sparkle sound effects for her blue mane.
  132. I don't like the vampire teeth though. Like any joke taken seriously in S2+, they eventually turn it into a real thing in season 4's premiere, despite the fact NMM never having fang teeth in episode 1. Just like Twilight dumping all that exposition of Starswirl, which ended up being true in S2's episode 20, it was just a really lame stretched-out joke, it should never be turned into something.
  133.  
  134. 19:32 Awkwardest animation ever. Would it murder them to just hand-draw transformations?
  135.  
  136. >Princess Luna: [spit] I am not certain that did what you meant for it to do, Twilight Sparkle.
  137. >Twilight Sparkle: Just wait.
  138. >Princess Luna: For what? For... for them to scream some more?
  139. Yeah I don't get this bullshit moment either, and apparently neither do the writers.
  140. At first ponyville was horrified of Luna, then later they utterly bullshit that they were just pretending to be scared.
  141.  
  142. It's a really piss-poor resolution, especially when this moral has been done before in Bridle Gossip.
  143. Plus she's proving herself in a remote area where nobody but the children can see her. She should have did this in the town's main hall back in Ponyville. A proper transition ending here would be the children following her cheerfully in the town and saying it's ok she's not evil. Totally not an evil bitch who cancelled the celebration.
  144.  
  145. 19:47 Whoah easy on the mane pulling, that means something else in the animal world.
  146. Damn this kid is one depressing faggot. Look I know you're actually the Oliver Twist, Pipsqueak, orphan kid reference, but fuck off with your depressing tone. Children are suppose to be fun and positive, always wearing rose-tinted glasses.
  147. >You're my favourite princess ever! [hugs her leg]
  148. And then many shippings were had.
  149.  
  150. Pipsqueak -
  151. He looks more like a Pound Puppy from the cartoon with the same name, and even makes dog sounds. Seriously he even makes the reference "Scary butt fun"/"Secret butt fun".
  152. I hate the fact he gets more dialogue lines than the cutie mark crusaders which get zero. I would rather see the CMC talking than this little fag.
  153.  
  154. At the end of many Season 1's MLP:FiM broadcasts, an ad for "Pound Puppies" comes up. At one point, a gray dog named Niblet is speaking about how their club is "Secret, but fun!" However, the pronunciation of the sentence can be misinterpreted as him saying "Secret Butt Fun!". You should watch it sometime, it's a decent show.
  155. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5vmzPg2Fso
  156.  
  157. >Luna: Oh, most wonderful of nights.
  158. 1) I always thought she said "almost" instead of "wonderful".
  159. 2) Her voice keeps changing every line. This time she finally doesn't sound like Rarity.
  160.  
  161. Now about the ending part which completely baffles me.
  162. 20:50 - 21:10, 21:30
  163. Luna tossing spiders, acting normal, coming out of the green liquid tub. Lightning striking Rainbow Dash. Having fun.
  164. Why didn't they write her like this since the beginning? When she eats the apple, she even looks mischievous. She gains the prankster traits and fun attitude Applejack was talking about, the personality which any decent viewer would want from a character.
  165.  
  166. So basically... they can write her good, it's not that hard. But they just don't cause... ?! cause they're assholes or something? I don't get it why, why not write your show as good if it's not that hard? Why sabotage it? Why purposely give bronies shit-tier entertainment and commercial-tier quality? It would have made sense if Dhx and Hasbro came out and shouted "You are all a bunch of retards for enjoying such garbage. I wrote it specifically bad on purpose to show you what a bunch of shit-eating morons you all are." Unfortunately that never happened, so they never intended for this. This stuff left me scratching my head for 4 years.
  167.  
  168. Twilight Sparkle: Dear Princess Celestia,
  169. When you first sent me to Ponyville, I didn't know anything about friendship. I met somepony tonight who was having the same problem -- your sister, Princess Luna! Yadarra yaddara And even if my Star Swirl the Bearded costume didn't go over, this still turned out to be the best Nightmare Night ever!
  170.  
  171. Fuck off with your Starswirl costume.
  172. Thank you M.A. Larson and thank you IDW. For making Starswirl an irresponsible wizard. Fucks sake even the idea that Discord is Starswirl would have been better.
  173.  
  174. So they're saying Luna is in the same position as Twilight was(in episode 1), the fanbase played around with that idea for a long time. Nothing good came out of it. Luna shouldn't have went through this garbage in the first place. That's what Sunset Shimmer went through and that was cringeworthy filler. Villain redemptions can be handled decently well, but not if the writer is a retard like Mike Vogel.
  175.  
  176.  
  177. It's weird how they took only half of the ideas from the fanbase, instead of just going full-fanfic with evil emo gothic Luna or weepy sad anxious Luna. It feels like a fanfic, but an unfinished one, like they took just half of a written fanfiction, but forgot to fill in the other half with something. Still the executive should have never inspired himself from the fanfics, especially the bad ones. This fanbase's portrayal of Luna was also baffling, like they really hate the younger sister and what to put her in a bad light.
  178.  
  179. I never understood the idea of making Luna weak and overly flawed. I thought that if the fandom was made out of anime fans then they'd especially recognize and depict Luna as more powerful than Celestia especially for her small size. The cliche is that gods hide under human disguises, so the small pony should still have the power of a god. Devil May Cry anyone? Superman anyone? Most shounen animes and superhero shows...
  180. Yet in the fanart and fanfiction they kept making her sad, weepy and pathetic
  181.  
  182. I'm not sure what is worse really. A pretentious sad 2deep4u fanfic or Mike Vogel's kneejerky humour cartoon.(Double Rainboom)
  183. Albeit in the premiere and finales they do use that same pretentious drama atmosphere found in fanfiction. Plus they just keep going with this. Like Fluttershy X Discord, Celestia acting dramatic, Twilight acting spergy, Pinkie acting too obnoxious, are all fan derivatives of season 1.
  184. At least if Vogel had rebooted the show since G1 or G3, so it feels like it's own thing instead of a derivate parody.
  185. So in conclusion we get the worst of both worlds. Double Rainboom and sad fanfics all in one. That's what Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed feels like.
  186.  
  187. The episode was... just boring. Nevermind the obnoxious sperging character, the lame annoying ponies. There is nothing happening in this episode. There is no plot. Nothing actually entertaining going on. Adventure Time and Steven Universe by comparison is better just for having some substance, despite that substance being smeared by shitty execution and noodle arm people.
  188.  
  189.  
  190.  
  191. Luna.
  192. She was suppose to be a god with a 3D personality that would join the mane6. I'd like to see how the chemistry changes if we add a 3D personality to a group of 6 1D personalities.
  193. I wanted to see how a mane6+Luna episode would feel like, but even now in season 5 they never let Luna interact with all 6.
  194. (just like the mane6 never interacted together in a likable manner after season 1 ended.)
  195. I also wanted to see Luna's hobbies, home, pets, duties, see it from her point of view. Some actual fleshing out of her character so the fanbase knows what to draw and write of her. After Luna Eclipsed she's still a complete blank slate. Her obnoxious spergy personality isn't all that different from her friendless anti-social sad fanon persona.
  196.  
  197. A Luna/Halloween combo could have made for a good episode, but season 2 takes the simplest concepts like Lesson Zero and turns them into a mish mash of everything but the kitchen sink. It's like burning orange juice, you have to be anti-talent to screw it up that badly.
  198. Anyway nevermind about the Halloween episode. Luna was suppose to be a recurring character through the whole season. Instead Zecora gets more appearances and roles than Luna.
  199. Luna got treated as a guest character, a one-shot one-trick horse.
  200.  
  201.  
  202. The soundtrack was pretty boring. The folk music required more bubblegum pop and glockenspiels to sound cutsie like Pinkie's Laughter song(giggle at the ghosties). Kinda odd that Pinkie didn't have a song this episode. Neither in Hearth's Warming Eve. Season 2 lacked a lot of songs where it would fit the most, and only used some shitty broadway musical type songs in the most unffiting scenes.
  203.  
  204. What did I expect from this episode? An actual fucking 40-60 minute special.
  205. Let's also look at the title "Luna Eclipsed" I expected an eclipse with an effect. Perhaps the eclipse raises up Luna's powers in unexpected ways, Luna exaggerates with her powers and completely modifies ponyville and the townsponies.
  206. Anyone reading this ever watched Tutenstein? The egyptian pharaoh show with the little zombie pharaoh stuck in modern times and he tries to make it more like his home by turning everything into pyramids and sand.
  207. Instead Luna Eclipsed gives me a huge load of nothing and on top of that nothing they add this obnoxious self-parodic comedy which I can't laugh at. But it seems like bronies enjoy having the comedy cover up for the lack of story, plot, characters, overall substance.
  208.  
  209.  
  210. I have a few... ideas which a Halloween episode could use.
  211. Perhaps the castle from G1 Midnight Castle ressurects together with Tirek. (Maybe the mane6 change into their G1 counterpaths, rather than meeting them)
  212. Luna is stuck as Nightmare Moon and has to defeat her doppelganger posing as Luna.
  213. Perhaps just a relaxing slice-of-life sandbox episode like an anime Beach episode, but it's Halloween themed. (Or 10 minutes of SoL with 10 minutes of adventure).
  214. Maybe Twilight gets trapped in time as a ghost and Luna & co have to save her, whilst learning about the traditions and history of Halloween for each culture. (the EI rating originally demanded MLP to be educational, hence later in season 2 they got rid of the EI along with the ending's moral lessons)
  215. An average cliche episode would be Luna scarying the mane6, they would have day-dream sequences imagining that Luna is still evil and tries to turn Ponyville into a zombie town. It was all a surprise party at a haunted mansion. Don't judge the cover of the book negatively. The end.
  216.  
  217. What I really wanted to see was a very well executed freeform episode. Luna or Twilight could give Pinkie Pie pegasus wings to compete with Rainbow Dash for candy. We could see Dash and Pinkie under sugar rush effects. Fluttershy could have her personality modified. Twilight could act more bitchy and fun, the ponies could overall be more charming and at their top game. They could switch personalities all around in here. Rainbow Dash could join the Shadowbolts for a brief time.
  218. Pinkie's Pinkamena appearance could return. (like it did briefly in the opening of the Grand Galloping Gala) All sorts of ideas which can fit in the world design just by using Luna's magic.
  219.  
  220. There were a number of things they could have did inside this episode.
  221. A raise the moon scene. Luna never got to raise the moon.
  222. More screentime for Luna's bat-winged guards and Luna's Nightmare Moon form. (why did the guards just disappear?)
  223. Luna's reaction to Rainbow Dash wearing a shadowbolts suit. The Shadowbolts making a reappearance.
  224. More screentime for Rainbow Dash and the other ponies. Twilight and Luna steal too much screentime with boring useless filler.
  225. Some popular Halloween personalities making an appearance like the headless horseman, the grim reaper, jack the pumpking head kelpies,
  226. Some iconic monsters and objects like ghosts, skeletons, zombies, portals, eclipses, the underworld.
  227. A haunted mansion, a haunted ghost ship, magic candy with unexpected results, candy corn. Halloween ponies.
  228. They could have composed a decent cutsie halloween song in it.
  229.  
  230. The props themselves weren't that great, every prop was something based off Nightmare Moon like the eyes, wings, the head.
  231. Where were the pumpkins, ghosts, fog, jack-in-the-box, green seas and stuff? Even MMO games like Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, etc. have better looking Halloween decorations, not to mention Christmas decorations.
  232. Oddly Ponyville's main townhall was never shown this episode. (Despite the first episode using it for the summer sun celebration)
  233. Again weird that there were no halloween toy sets or halloween ponies for Hasbro to sell. It looks like Hasbro has no idea how to jew properly, or just doesn't care enough to milk MLP properly and it's only Mike Vogel being an idiot. Transformers instead gets milked properly with so many cartoons, theater movies and Hollywood movies it had.
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