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premboy95: its in the grave
premboy95: when fiendish chain is activated
premboy95: and it targets my susano
premboy95: both activation conditions have been met
berettaa: u cant do it
premboy95: why not
premboy95: its in the grave before you even activate chain
premboy95: like im not saying im 100% right
premboy95: but i really think this should work
berettaa: so y the hell are u arguing
premboy95: becaus
berettaa: u no u cant
premboy95: why not
berettaa: it sounds stupid
premboy95: uhh
premboy95: ygo is stupid lol
premboy95: its not intuitive at all
berettaa: 1st of
berettaa: all
berettaa: its not being sent to the grave as a monster
premboy95: huh
berettaa: its a material
premboy95: why deoes that matter
premboy95: it just has to be in the grave
berettaa: meaing no eff
premboy95: what
premboy95: no okay you are just bullshitting now lol
premboy95: turtle would work if its detached
premboy95: thats not even debatable
berettaa: is it a monster wen it attached
berettaa: ?
premboy95: no
berettaa: ok
premboy95: but its a monster in the graveyard
premboy95: why does it matter
premboy95: its not dtached
premboy95: i mean its dtached
premboy95: when you use fiendish chhain
berettaa: yes so chain fiendish
berettaa: the monster
premboy95: yes its in the grave
premboy95: so susano was targetted by fiendish chain
berettaa: being sent is not resolving as a eff monster
premboy95: huh?
berettaa: yet for yu to even chain eff
berettaa: its a material still
premboy95: you know its a cost to detach
premboy95: no
premboy95: costs happen immediately
berettaa: yest i no this
berettaa: but
premboy95: the first thing that happens when i use susano's effect
premboy95: is turtle hits the grave
premboy95: before you can do absolutely anything turtle hits the grave first
premboy95: thats how costs work
berettaa: if i chain to yur detaching its not a monster until the chain is done
premboy95: huh?
premboy95: how is it not a monster
premboy95: hwat does that even mean
berettaa: ur a dumb ass
premboy95: its in the grave and its a monster
premboy95: yeah your logic makes so mense
premboy95: sense*
berettaa: dude u know u cant do it can we please not waste time trying to go off some crazy ass rulling
berettaa: just play
premboy95: but
berettaa: u can ask some one after
berettaa: jesus
premboy95: i can do it
premboy95: lol
premboy95: why cant i do it
premboy95: because it was a material before the chain started?
premboy95: its in the grave when you use chain which means it should be able to activate
premboy95: if i thought you were right i would agree with you
premboy95: and if you made a compelling arguement i would listen to you
berettaa: so by yur logic turtle is a spell speed 3
premboy95: uhh
premboy95: its ss2
premboy95: why would it be ss3
premboy95: how does that even matter
premboy95: both chain and turtle are ss2
berettaa: yur deck sucks man get over it lol
premboy95: lol
premboy95: how does that even make sense
premboy95: in this arguement
berettaa: stop tryna make it sound like its good
berettaa: lol
premboy95: i dont know why that even matters to this discussion
berettaa: they made it a limited deck becuse it only has limited potentail
berettaa: lol
berettaa: its bad
premboy95: like
premboy95: what are you even saying
premboy95: that has nothing to do with this ruling
berettaa: yur deck is bad
premboy95: okay
premboy95: its bad
premboy95: thats cool
berettaa: an u are too because u dont even know if it wrks lol
berettaa: yes it does
premboy95: pretty fucking sure it works
berettaa: yur tryna say this turtle card has a hundred dollar eff lol
berettaa: an it doesnt
berettaa: move on
Bleaknight: Yes?
premboy95: so
premboy95: if i use susano's effect detaching turtle
premboy95: and he chains fiendish chain
premboy95: can i use turtle in grave to negate chain?
Bleaknight: Yes
premboy95: okay thank you
berettaa: what
berettaa: why
berettaa: @!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bleaknight: Because at the time you activate Fiendish, Turtle is in the Graveyard
Bleaknight: And therefore you can use Turtle's effect
berettaa: no
berettaa: it was a material
Bleaknight: So...?
berettaa: i chained to him activating
Bleaknight: It was detached as a cost and is now in the Graveyard, before you activate Fiendish
berettaa: ok
premboy95: can i go on now/
Bleaknight: Yes