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- LemToday at 2:03 AM
- I was doing so well too at bot
- XyrhoToday at 2:03 AM
- couldnt cause of other things happening
- LemToday at 2:03 AM
- I was literally 1v2 ing them the entire time
- their hp would always be at 1-2 bars
- every single time by myself
- but you guys kept leaving me alone
- XyrhoToday at 2:04 AM
- im sorry :frowning:
- LemToday at 2:04 AM
- like this is not the first time you've ganked bot 0-1 times
- in an entire game
- you never go bot
- u always hang around mid or top
- XyrhoToday at 2:05 AM
- there's other things happening in the other map
- and i need to keep up
- LemToday at 2:05 AM
- I freezed the lane so well for like how many minutes and the ekko just tower dived us
- and took the dragon after
- XyrhoToday at 2:05 AM
- if you need a gank just ask
- LemToday at 3:15 AM
- I’m going to sleep
- XyrhoToday at 3:19 AM
- alright then. good night sweet dream sleep tight i love you
- LemToday at 3:19 AM
- Boo i dont wanna play league anymore
- it’s just so demoralizing
- XyrhoToday at 3:20 AM
- okay we dont have to
- LemToday at 3:20 AM
- Or if I’m gonna play I don’t wanna adc anymore
- I’m always being left alone anyways
- and I just play defend the tower
- Like I’m not allowed to have fun
- even when I’m doing well
- it’s just not fun
- XyrhoToday at 3:22 AM
- mhmm
- LemToday at 3:22 AM
- I’m still really pissed that you never gank bot u know
- I don’t understand why you wouldn’t
- XyrhoToday at 3:23 AM
- why dont you jungle then?
- LemToday at 3:23 AM
- I was winning my lane
- XyrhoToday at 3:23 AM
- maybe you'll understand
- you act as if i dont want to because i dont like you or something
- LemToday at 3:23 AM
- I’m pretty sure that’s why
- XyrhoToday at 3:23 AM
- no its not
- LemToday at 3:23 AM
- You don’t trust that I can do something
- then why
- XyrhoToday at 3:24 AM
- and it's pretty ignorant of you to think so
- LemToday at 3:24 AM
- then why did u not gank bot?
- how did top get so fed?
- XyrhoToday at 3:25 AM
- I never noticed an opportunity or at least was informed of one
- boo it happens
- LemToday at 3:25 AM
- this is why all my support always leaves me
- because we can’t get anything
- XyrhoToday at 3:26 AM
- sigh
- just give yourself a break boo
- LemToday at 3:26 AM
- Yeah i should just quit because I’ll forever suck at it
- XyrhoToday at 3:26 AM
- if that's how your feel then fine
- LemToday at 3:27 AM
- Well clearly that’s how everyone feels
- XyrhoToday at 3:27 AM
- no
- its just you
- LemToday at 3:27 AM
- no
- it’s everyone
- XyrhoToday at 3:27 AM
- sure
- go ask everyone
- LemToday at 3:27 AM
- exactly
- XyrhoToday at 3:27 AM
- you're being ridiculous
- LemToday at 3:27 AM
- that’s how everyone feels
- no I’m not
- XyrhoToday at 3:27 AM
- yes you are
- LemToday at 3:27 AM
- there’s no reason to think I’m good
- XyrhoToday at 3:28 AM
- ask people and tell me what you're response is
- LemToday at 3:28 AM
- that I suck
- XyrhoToday at 3:28 AM
- it doesnt matter if you're good or not
- no has said anythign or cares
- LemToday at 3:28 AM
- Yeah cuz if I ask them they’ll tell me I’m okay so I don’t feel bad
- then why don’t u tell me that I did anything good
- XyrhoToday at 3:28 AM
- we just play to have fun, but clearly you're not and making ridculous reasons
- LemToday at 3:28 AM
- because there’s nothing to say
- cuz it’s not fun playing with me
- XyrhoToday at 3:29 AM
- you stopped talking, you clearly didnt want to be talked to
- did you not hear me shouting with joy when you outplayed people with traps?
- LemToday at 3:29 AM
- Yeah that was the game where u didn’t gank
- and I was doing good
- and then what
- u and john decided to leave me alone in bot
- until the pyke and ashe caught up to me
- XyrhoToday at 3:30 AM
- if you're doing well, wouldn't the logical thing for a jungler do to help lanes that arent doing well?
- LemToday at 3:30 AM
- Yeah and darius became fed
- XyrhoToday at 3:30 AM
- it happens
- LemToday at 3:30 AM
- I’m doing well but I’m not super ahead enough to hold it by myself
- XyrhoToday at 3:30 AM
- boo listen to yourself
- LemToday at 3:30 AM
- like why the fk would both of u leave?
- XyrhoToday at 3:30 AM
- stop dwelling over a game
- put it past your emotions already
- if you cant then just rest
- and stop playing
- LemToday at 3:31 AM
- whatever
- XyrhoToday at 3:31 AM
- we have bad games
- LemToday at 3:31 AM
- I still believe that you just don’t like me that’s why u don’t help
- XyrhoToday at 3:31 AM
- if you really think that then I really have no hope for you
- how stupid that is
- and that you actually believe that
- LemToday at 3:32 AM
- I already knew u had no hope for me
- so u’re just basically affirming that u never had hope for me
- XyrhoToday at 3:32 AM
- listen to yourself
- you're twisting context into somethign else
- I have no hope in this whole situation where you feel as you are, because there's nothing I can say to change your mind. You are wrong in believing that I did not gank you because I disliked you. LISTEN to yourself. I don't know what's wrong with you but by you actually believing something so out of no where and untrue, I don't have hope for you relationship wise. Your mind is so easily filled with self loathing toxcity that it's so tiring.
- What would you like me to say? I already thought your claim was so ridiculous that I decided to apologize to you let it blow over. Sorry isn't even enough for you.
- Can you honestly look past everything I am to you, and just be like. "Ya, he's not ganking me because he doesn't like me"
- If you feel that way
- I'm officially done
- LemToday at 3:56 AM
- The misconception is that a jungler's job is to help lanes that need help and conversely not really prioritize someone who's doing ok and doesn't need any help. The first half of the part you addressed, you said it's often a bad idea to just help someone who needs help based on a number of factors. I agree with that. And this part of the misconception is more common in lower elos. The second part is what is often missed in gold and plat and low diamond.
- No, you don't set the lanes that "don't need help" lower on your priority list. If anything, you set them higher. Because a lane that is already doing really well is a lane that has a much higher chance of making your gank successful because there is already a lead. In fact, games are often won by snowballing the already winning lane who needs no help whatsoever over and over again, even if the rest of your team is getting destroyed. I often see someone in solo queue when i play on a smurf say "I don't need help, go help bot". No my friend, that's not how jungling works. I'm not ganking your lane for you because I like you or because you need help. I'm doing it because I see it as the shortest route to winning the game.
- Completely remove the "lanes that don't need help" part from the guide and it should be good to go.
- This is pretty much how I was taught junglers were to play, and I see it all the time still
- XyrhoToday at 3:57 AM
- Celina, I'm over this
- This isnt even about the game anymore
- I don't know what the hell is wrong with you anymore, but I'm done.
- You're clearly not listening to anything I have to say.
- You're so fixated on a game
- And you have no idea what's happening
- I don't want this
- I don't want you
- Just stop
- LemToday at 4:01 AM
- Fine then
- it’s over
- XyrhoToday at 4:01 AM
- I don't even know what you want anymore
- Should I erase my myself from existence over a bad game?
- Apologizing doesn't work clearly
- Nothing is enough for you
- LemToday at 4:03 AM
- then why don’t u tell me that I did anything good
- Because despite saying all of that you never tell me I did anything good
- XyrhoToday at 4:04 AM
- I never landed with you I don't know what you did well
- I can only what I can see
- LemToday at 4:04 AM
- yeah and what did u see?
- why don’t u just tell me straight up that I did nothing then
- XyrhoToday at 4:04 AM
- When I see you outplay people I get excited and of course I'm happy that you did
- LemToday at 4:04 AM
- 99% of the time i do nothing
- yeah and when u do it feels good
- XyrhoToday at 4:05 AM
- I'm not even leaning with you
- Just stop
- LemToday at 4:05 AM
- but then what
- yeah just stop
- XyrhoToday at 4:05 AM
- LISTEN TO YOURSELF. stop
- Why are you further jeopardizing a relationship over a game
- What do you want from me?
- LemToday at 4:06 AM
- The misconception is that a jungler's job is to help lanes that need help and conversely not really prioritize someone who's doing ok and doesn't need any help. The first half of the part you addressed, you said it's often a bad idea to just help someone who needs help based on a number of factors. I agree with that. And this part of the misconception is more common in lower elos. The second part is what is often missed in gold and plat and low diamond.
- No, you don't set the lanes that "don't need help" lower on your priority list. If anything, you set them higher. Because a lane that is already doing really well is a lane that has a much higher chance of making your gank successful because there is already a lead. In fact, games are often won by snowballing the already winning lane who needs no help whatsoever over and over again, even if the rest of your team is getting destroyed. I often see someone in solo queue when i play on a smurf say "I don't need help, go help bot". No my friend, that's not how jungling works. I'm not ganking your lane for you because I like you or because you need help. I'm doing it because I see it as the shortest route to winning the game.
- Completely remove the "lanes that don't need help" part from the guide and it should be good to go.
- XyrhoToday at 4:06 AM
- You want me to tell you good things. I'm sorry I can't tell you all the time when I'm doing other things
- LemToday at 4:06 AM
- read this then
- XyrhoToday at 4:07 AM
- ...
- If this is more important to you
- Just don't talk to me anymore
- LemToday at 4:07 AM
- Fine
- XyrhoToday at 4:07 AM
- This is on you.
- LemToday at 4:08 AM
- I think it’s on both of us
- XyrhoToday at 4:08 AM
- Your real faults is this
- LemToday at 4:08 AM
- Like sure I’m upset over just a game
- XyrhoToday at 4:08 AM
- I can be the worst jungler and I can accept it
- But I'm not making excuses for the relationship
- LemToday at 4:08 AM
- but u have to understand that it’s been going on for like the entirety of me learning how to adc
- XyrhoToday at 4:09 AM
- Why are you still talking about league
- I'm done
- LemToday at 4:09 AM
- because what I’m upset about is league
- did I ever say anything about our relationship?
- XyrhoToday at 4:09 AM
- I am
- LemToday at 4:09 AM
- You’re the one dragging our relationship into this
- When I know that I can’t do shit, I tell you not to gank
- XyrhoToday at 4:09 AM
- Yeah because this is straining me more then you care for
- LemToday at 4:10 AM
- Because I’ve accepted my loss and just want you to snowball the other lanes ahead
- XyrhoToday at 4:10 AM
- You want want me to do better at something you shouldn't just invoke your emotions into it with blame
- That's just a negative effect
- Celina stop
- Idc about league at this point
- LemToday at 4:13 AM
- i don’t even know why you keep dragging our relationship into this
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