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- antsygirl
- but i am working out a lot too
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- chefnosaj
- i for sure get a lot more shit done
- left_tenant
- You get the time you didn't think you'd have in the future but you lost the time in the past.
- chefnosaj
- all my plans and ideas of going to the gym and eating better are falling into place
- chefnosaj
- instead of waking up going ill do it today....
- allfilthandloveless
- Sure, lefty. I'd agree with that.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha is now known as TMI_Guy
- jamesthehaxor
- antsygirl: Oh I agree. Doctor had me on them for 6 months for extreme depression and anxiety. But they didn't taper me off so went through hell. But they a bandaid I agree.
- left_tenant
- Benzo withdrawal is bad.
- jamesthehaxor
- it really is
- jamesthehaxor
- the worst
- allfilthandloveless
- I mean that I have more time to do things. As chef pointed out
- jamesthehaxor
- Some doctors don't understand that though and they don't taper
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- jamesthehaxor
- they think 6 months isn't a long time
- left_tenant
- Wow, that is a long time for benzos.
- antsygirl
- i didnt take them that often
- antsygirl
- i wanted to drink more
- brainhax
- hey jamesthehaxor
- left_tenant
- One month is a long time in my experience.
- allfilthandloveless
- Time I thought didn't exist. I would paint if only I had time! *Drinks away hours*
- antsygirl
- and they dont mesh well with booze
- brainhax
- ;addpoint haxors
- ShaleRocksBot
- haxors are now worth 1 in brainhax's eyes.
- antsygirl
- 1 drink feels like 4 on ativan
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- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: Struggling to stop by Inthemeantime87 http://redd.it/7od4q8
- left_tenant
- A guy at rehab called it double booze.
- jamesthehaxor
- I was on them daily. Yeah left_tenant they worked but withdrawal is real life hell.
- jamesthehaxor
- antsygirl: ha ha
- antsygirl
- the doctor gave me so many of them
- jamesthehaxor
- hey brainhax :)
- TMI_Guy
- Hello all, where are we going with this conversation?
- left_tenant
- Not all doctors understand addiction, they should certainly know physical dependnece though.
- TMI_Guy
- just curious.
- left_tenant
- If you had a seizure you could have sued him for malpractice I think.
- jamesthehaxor
- TMI_Guy: we're just discussing prescribed medications for mental health issues
- jamesthehaxor
- my spelling sucks
- allfilthandloveless
- Hi TMI_guy just being supportive, as James got some awful news.
- antsygirl
- i just remember taking them months later on my birthday after my mom was fine and drinking at the same time
- antsygirl
- i had a dinner i planned and was super nervous about it for whatever reason
- jamesthehaxor
- But yes I shall visit my doc tomorrow and see if there's anything they can do to help
- allfilthandloveless
- How are you, TMI_guy? Fighting the good fight?
- antsygirl
- i dont remember it
- left_tenant
- I'm so glad I didn't go through withdrawal this time.
- TMI_Guy
- I think we need to put the IRC guidelines above the link to join here. I know I would have done a lot better using this chat room if I had read them first.
- left_tenant
- The mods make them come up for new people.
- brainhax
- the rules are in the topic
- left_tenant
- ;hi1
- ShaleRocksBot
- Welcome to SDIRC! We're so pleased you're here! A quick overview of the rules: Please only participate while completely sober. Don't condone alcohol/drug use, and speak about it only as it is relevant to your recovery, leaving the details fuzzy.
- left_tenant
- ;hi2
- ShaleRocksBot
- Please speak from your own experience and don't tell people what to do (speak from the 'I'). Please don't offer medical advice. Be kind and welcoming to other users. Discrimination and hate is never ok. For more info check out: http://is.gd/2sdirc
- left_tenant
- ;hi3
- pail
- eat a ton of tacos
- left_tenant
- ;hi4
- pail
- AND NO TOUCHING!!
- jamesthehaxor
- TMI_Guy: I think the rules allow discussion of prescribed medications
- chefnosaj
- haha
- chefnosaj
- mmm tacos
- antsygirl
- yeah, definitely don't condoning ativan here
- left_tenant
- NO TOUCHING!
- antsygirl
- *not
- TMI_Guy
- the rules actually don't want us to talk about any drugs in here. I had to learn the hard way.
- antsygirl
- especially paired with booze
- brainhax
- mods usually discourage discussing this many specifics about benzos
- jamesthehaxor
- TMI_Guy: really?
- brainhax
- because its triggering for people
- jamesthehaxor
- Ok I'll take this discussion elsewhere
- jamesthehaxor
- Laters guys
- jamesthehaxor
- x
- brainhax
- who were/are addicted to benzos
- left_tenant
- I don't think you have to do that though jamesthehaxor.
- antsygirl
- sorry guys. i will stop
- TMI_Guy
- no, stay dud.
- TMI_Guy
- dude.
- pail
- sweet!
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- left_tenant
- You brought it up for support IMO. That's ok I think. Not a mod though.
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- incertae-sedis: I should be asleep.
- ElecR
- We're supposed to keep it vague and avoid specific names.
- left_tenant
- Too late.
- left_tenant
- That's true ElecR.
- ElecR
- Like "strong anxiety benzo" instead of brand name.
- TMI_Guy
- yeah, sorry, I came into the convo with the math of 1 magnifies to 4, and was like yikes.
- ElecR
- But it's inevitable that the subject comes up.
- left_tenant
- To be fair, it was in the context of the dangers of taking them. Not the benefit.
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: Getting sober helped me lose weight! Sort of! by MyMetalPony http://redd.it/7od6ay
- TMI_Guy
- yeah, I know.
- ElecR
- They kept me in the hospital until I was completely weaned off of my strong anxiety benzo.
- ElecR
- Which was good.
- antsygirl
- I definitely don;t want to take them anymore
- ElecR
- I'm good with a relatively low dosage of an SSRI.
- TMI_Guy
- I am not trying to scold or preach, I was just trying to share my experience in this chat room. Kinda saw the discussion headed in a place my addict brain may have taken it in the past.
- ElecR
- So in my infinite wisdom I decided to not take it for a couple days.
- antsygirl
- i haven't been on anything since the summer
- ElecR
- That was a bad idea on my part.
- TMI_Guy
- nick/ Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ElecR
- I take some supplements and a baby aspirin and the SSRI. That's all.
- TMI_Guy
- nick/Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ElecR
- Swap the / to the other side of nick
- ElecR
- and leave the space
- TMI_Guy is now known as Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ElecR
- /nick ElecR
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- hehe.
- ElecR
- There ya go
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I am the the TMI_Guy too.
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- pandalete
- my boss left for the day. heres to not being productive for the last hour of work
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- After multiple attempts at this, I realize I don't need to share every little detail.
- ElecR
- Cheers pandalete!
- ElecR
- Here's to me looking for a new job, too. :/
- pandalete
- did you go talk to that connection of yours yet?
- kindheart
- heres to me going back to sleep
- kindheart
- j/k
- ElecR
- Not quite yet. I'm going shortly.
- ElecR
- In person and such.
- pandalete
- ah gotcha. in person is definitely better
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: What are your New Year's goals? by corporatebro123 http://redd.it/7od81f
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: Badge reset today... by Salius http://redd.it/7od7x3
- pandalete
- i have a feeling this evening will be bad craving wise today, first weekend and all
- pandalete
- running errands after work and going to the gym, suggested a movie night with the boyfriend
- chefnosaj
- eat lots of food and snacks!
- pandalete
- which, movie night will keep me sober, but if he decides he wants to go hang with his friends then ill have a friday night alone, which is bad for urges
- antsygirl
- that sounds like a great night pandalete
- antsygirl
- i hear ya on the urges though
- pandalete
- one of the errands is snacks for this weekend for sure
- antsygirl
- i've been thinking of ending it with the guy i've been seeing
- chefnosaj
- haha good stuff
- pandalete
- if my hands are full of snacks i cant hold a drink
- chefnosaj
- they should help out!
- antsygirl
- it's starting to feel like more and more of an obligation
- antsygirl
- but he is very supportive of my sobriety
- pandalete
- thats not good antsygirl :/
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Whenever I depended on other people to keep me sober, I ended up not sober.
- antsygirl
- he doesnt drink around me
- pandalete
- about the obligation thing
- antsygirl
- but he talks about it sometimes
- antsygirl
- i'm just feeling super checked out about it/him
- antsygirl
- and i'm not so sure he is a good fit for me
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- The answer is probably inside.
- antsygirl
- its only been a couple months
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- there it is.
- antsygirl
- he wanted to get together tonight
- antsygirl
- he is having a crappy day
- antsygirl
- i feel bad for him having a crappy day. but i just dont want to see him
- antsygirl
- i want to be alone
- antsygirl
- but then i too am concerned about battling cravings
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I tried to maintain a marriage with another addict. It turned into me being the scapegoat for all of our co-dependent stuff.
- chefnosaj
- perhaps its run its course ?
- antsygirl
- i have work early tomorrow morning and a class/gym time tonight
- chefnosaj
- maybe see how you feel after the weekend
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- antsygirl
- yeah. he is coming over tomorrow when im done work
- antsygirl
- he got me a pasta machine for Christmas and my newly celiac friend gave me like 4 bags of flour she can no longer have
- antsygirl
- so we're going to make pasta
- chefnosaj
- ahh thats pretty coolo
- antsygirl
- and he says he will help me put away my Christmas stuff and clean a bit
- chefnosaj
- me and my so used to make a lot of pasta
- antsygirl
- but last time he said that/came over we just ended up having sex the whole time..
- antsygirl
- and that's fine and all. but i kind of don't want to do that
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: A.A. Meetings by acompton88 http://redd.it/7od932
- antsygirl
- he's really great and its not like i dont find him attractive i just want to actually do things and not have sex all day
- chefnosaj
- hmm maybe go to the cinema or something tomorrow ?
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- we are vulnerable, and easily manipulated. Sex can be an addiction as well.
- antsygirl
- it definitely is for me
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- antsygirl
- i really want to get myself in order here
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I stayed married to a woman that hated me, unless we were doing that.
- antsygirl
- it starts with sobriety but there are sooo many things i keep letting slide
- antsygirl
- my house is a disorganized mess. i would do well with getting rid of things
- antsygirl
- one of my close friends is upset with me for not making enough time for her lately
- antsygirl
- on top of feeling checked out. i just also feel like i dont have time to date someone righ tnow
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- antsygirl
- this guy has nothing but time it seems
- ShaleRocksBot
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- antsygirl
- he wants to see me way more than i want to see him
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- sobersamurai
- Hey guys
- pail
- Hay is for horses!
- antsygirl
- hi sobersamurai
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Hey sobersamurai
- ShaleRocksBot
- ~~(_ _)^: OINK
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- ;bef
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Nice work, you saved a pig. You have saved 2 animals in #stopdrinking
- Talie__
- Hi sobersamurai , howgoes?
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- sobersamurai
- Great just work up getting ready to hit the gym, just thought i'd check in with you fellow sobernauts
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- antsygirl
- anyway, sorry for rambling about my dating life. i'll figure it out one of these days
- antsygirl
- i just hate dating
- antsygirl
- tired of it
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- When I first went to treatment a long time ago. They told me all kinds of things I didn't want to hear. One of them is that I probably didn't know what a healthy relationship was, they were right. It took me 17 years to realize it though.
- sobersamurai
- yeah I hate dating too, so I don't date
- Talie
- I also just woke up... Are you a fellow Aussie or just on night shift?
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Hi Talie
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Thanks for putting me in check yesterday.
- sobersamurai
- Crikey mate, throw a shrimp on the barbie
- sobersamurai
- night shift
- antsygirl
- my longest relationship to date was incredibly abusive
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: I screwed up by swimmer1990 http://redd.it/7odaj5
- antsygirl
- and all the ones my mom modeled as a single parent when i was growing up involved a lot of codependency and abuse, too
- SnoobyDoo
- I think the majority of people don't know what a healthy relationship is
- antsygirl
- even with my stepdad. she has been with him for 20 years
- antsygirl
- she bitches about him constantly
- antsygirl
- anytime he isnt around
- antsygirl
- its so uncomfortable
- antsygirl
- but he supports her financially and has for the last 15 years
- Talie
- Stone the crows, sobersamurai, that's some good Aussie lingo then
- antsygirl
- and she "can't" work, sooo
- antsygirl
- that's not how i want to be
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- Talie
- New to the chat, sobersamurai ?
- sobersamurai
- Yes I am Talie
- sobersamurai
- Bruv
- pandalete
- my boss just had me make up data for a customer. questions my scientific integrity :(
- Talie
- Nice to meet you! Glad you found us. How long sober?
- sobersamurai
- lol thats not australian is it
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- Talie
- Nope
- sobersamurai
- 4 Days now
- pandalete
- ;addpoint sobersamurai
- ShaleRocksBot
- sobersamurai is now worth 1 in pandalete's eyes.
- sobersamurai
- I have experience with AA, I have been trying to get sober for some time, and had bouts of sobriety around 100 days, last year
- pandalete
- thats awesome!
- Talie
- Jason, I'll clarify something on that with you later. Morning, though
- Talie
- Hey that's some good time, sobersamurai
- kindheart
- Im still tired today
- Mr_Tib
- So I got a call from my past employer, the guy that was in my position quit
- Mr_Tib
- hehe
- sobersamurai
- This time I am trying to do it with SMART recovery and SD on reddit, and I am trying to not use AA, I don't really go for the whole god/spiritual/12 steps thing
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- TMI_GUY
- It was suggested to me that I take a year off from all intimate relationships, when I realized I am an addict.
- antsygirl
- i've heard that before
- antsygirl
- but it also seemed kind of arbitrary to me
- sobersamurai
- I thumped AA for the last year and relapsed countless time, so. Cant keep doing the same thing, going to try other methods of recovery
- TMI_GUY
- I finally really accepted that I was an addict/alcoholic in about 2009. I did some therapy. I had some women show interest, but I panicked and back out everytime. I wasn't ready. I am still not ready.
- antsygirl
- I'm starting to realize more and more that I'm not ready, either.
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: The IRC rules on discussion of prescribed drugs are dumb. The fact I couldn't discuss them was a factor in why I'm now downing a bottle of vodka. Good work guys. by VeryOldFilms http://redd.it/7odbll
- antsygirl
- it's just hard. i am still consumed by thoughts of having a baby
- Mr_Tib
- I sometimes find it important to not identify yourself with.. "I'm an alcoholic" or a gambler or addict or whatever
- SnoobyDoo
- NICE post
- Mr_Tib
- ahhh. that's a post you don't see everyday
- kindheart
- you can't talk about prescribed meds in here?
- antsygirl
- wow. he's blaming us for drinking now? that's lame
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- sobersamurai
- Lack of personal responsibility, that was our dilemma
- antsygirl
- I didn't feel shunned when it was pointed out that i shoudl stop talking about drugs
- TMI_GUY
- yeah, I hear you Mr_Tib. To me it's just a word. I am not offended by it, nor do I feel shame. My brain chemistry is such that I would have eventually abused whatever I did. I like the analogy of a frog sitting in a pot of water that is slowly heated to a boil. That's what addictive substances and activities that steal my quality of life represent
- TMI_GUY
- .
- SnoobyDoo
- "good work guys"
- TMI_GUY
- EVen if I had a happy childhood, I would have eventually ended up "here".
- kindheart
- I dont take meds so I won't have that problem I guess while im here. there should be a separate room for drug abusers no?
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- tiramisuuu
- hello
- sobersamurai
- All I see in that post is a personal not taking responsibility. They chose to drink, they are a member here, im sure they are hip to what happens when they drink.
- Mr_Tib
- TMI_GUY: yeah, I hear ya. I'm not offended by the term or anything either. It's just that there's a difference between "I'm an alcoholic" and "I suffer from alcoholism"
- SnoobyDoo
- ^
- sobersamurai
- I hate the blaming triggers or blaming something outside of themselves. They chose it.
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- sobersamurai
- Anyone have experience quitting nicotine and alcohol
- antsygirl
- right here sobersamurai
- antsygirl
- o'm coming up to 8 years smoke free this month
- sobersamurai
- I am officially over 24 hours clean from nicotine, and it feels really good
- sobersamurai
- i take that back, from DIP. I am using a patch of nicotine
- antsygirl
- it gets better
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- sobersamurai
- I feel a sense of euphoria its crazy
- antsygirl
- and 24 hours is great :) glad you're feeling so good
- kindheart
- do people suffer "withdrawel" symptoms from no nicotine?
- kindheart
- I never smoked before
- sobersamurai
- I dipped from sun up to sun down
- Mr_Tib
- I never got addicted to smoking, but that's only because I think I'm missing something you are not. I don't find it that addicting. So it would be stupid for me to say quitting is easy. But most people don't get that.
- sobersamurai
- and like I can already feel my anxiety going lower, my sense of smell coming back, and this is really weird but its like i can feel emotions
- sobersamurai
- I feel like maybe Ive relapsed so many times with alcohol cause I havent given up the dipping tobacco
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- kindheart
- Mr_Tib I know people occasionally smoked while drinking but told me they werent addicted so who knows
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- sobersamurai
- speaking of triggers, I feel like for me dipping tobacco is my biggest trigger
- kindheart
- oh I see sober, is that why you have to quit both at the same time?
- Mr_Tib
- kindheart: I'm like that, heavy drinking = smoking for me but never while sober
- sobersamurai
- Mr_Tib Yeah I dipped a can a day for many years so really I'm probably way more addicted to it than alcohol
- antsygirl
- i'm disgusted by the thought of actually smoking now
- antsygirl
- but since i had the twins in March I think about it sometimes
- pandalete
- hey sobersamurai sorry im late to the party. currently quitting both nicotine and alcohol
- pandalete
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- pandalete: Your badges: On day 5 with Sobriety. On day 4 with Quitting Smoking.
- Mr_Tib
- I once smoked almost an entire pack
- Mr_Tib
- couldn't get the taste and sensation out of my mouth
- Mr_Tib
- for the next few days
- antsygirl
- not in an actual way, but i just crave the act of smoking and the smell of it repulses me less than it did a few years ago even
- antsygirl
- i smoked up to 2 packs a day at my peak
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- sobersamurai
- pandalete how you doing so far with the quitting smoking, noticing any benefits yet?
- antsygirl
- and quit cold turkey when i got pregnant with my daughter
- antsygirl
- but started again when she was just over a year old
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- pandalete
- my chest feels less tight, things are starting to smell a bit better
- pandalete
- nicotine cravings suck though
- pandalete
- i just keep eating chips
- Jason_de_la_soul
- whoa, wait there is another Talie? TalieM?
- Talie
- right, I don't have time for this, I'm busy
- Talie
- !Op
- pail
- HOLD MY LACROIX!
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- Talie
- no
- sobersamurai
- pandalete are you using nico patches or lozenges or cold turkey
- Talie
- if I could have a minute, please?
- pandalete
- cold turkey
- sobersamurai
- see i prefer ham over turkey
- pandalete
- sup talie
- SnoobyDoo
- What's up Talie
- kindheart
- I never smoked cigarettes but in college tried smoking a joint. because i never smoked, I couldnt get the stuff out of my lungs for like 3 days
- Talie
- The discussion of prescription drugs is not banned, as that post implies
- Talie
- But the rules do clearly say that we have no need to mention brands or dosages
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- Talie
- Was anyone in who knows who that user was, please?
- sobersamurai
- pandalete are you using gum or seeds or something to chew on?
- pandalete
- gum when i cant have chips
- Jason_de_la_soul
- when people start talking about combing scrips and alcohol it gets a little weird. the user was name Jamesthehaxor
- pandalete
- im sorry talie im not quite sure whats going on
- SnoobyDoo
- I missed it completely
- sobersamurai
- I have noticed appetite increase and I am like binging food, hopefully I can get that under control
- pandalete
- ive read that appetite will go back to normal over time
- darthfader
- I need a vacation
- antsygirl
- i was a part of it and i'm sorry. i didn't realize
- Talie
- Thank you Jason
- Mr_Tib
- I don't know if I'm allowed to speak about LSD but I want to use it to treat depression and gain perspective
- darthfader
- Do it
- pail
- Ohhhh! darthfader and Mr_Tib sittin' in a tree!
- Talie
- no, you're not allowed to discuss that
- antsygirl
- he left abruptly after it was pointed out that it was against the rules to discuss brands and such
- Talie
- darthfader that was not helpful
- darthfader
- That used to be a part of the big book
- darthfader
- Back in the 30's
- sobersamurai
- Yeah wasn't Bill Wilson into LSD. Like after getting sober
- Jason_de_la_soul
- promoting specific paths of recovery is also not welcome.
- darthfader
- Yes
- Talie
- yeah, it's not ok for in here, does not count as sober, and is not up for discussion
- darthfader
- Oh
- darthfader
- Sorry
- darthfader
- Where can I go to discuss recovery?
- Mr_Tib
- ok, sorry
- SnoobyDoo
- makes sense because it's kind of illegal
- kindheart
- also isnt it dangerous?
- kindheart
- lol
- Mr_Tib
- depends on the country, but let's not get into that if it is not allowed
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: I just texted a friend and said the phrase “I’m five days sober” by flashbeforeyoureyes http://redd.it/7odg7j
- pandalete
- im so confused whats going on. i just saw the post on the SD reddit
- Jason_de_la_soul
- here, it's okay to discuss what you are doing today to stay sober. But, as I learned the hard way, the details aren't really that helpful to others.
- SnoobyDoo
- and, as Talie said, it's not sober
- darthfader
- What is the point of talking about patting ourselves on the back for not drinking if we can't discuss what got us here?
- antsygirl
- pandalete we were discussing benzo usage and were told to follow the rules of the chat and cut it out
- Talie
- we do not find it's helpful to go over the details of our drinking days
- pandalete
- ahhh gotcha thats for filling me in antsygirl
- darthfader
- Why?
- Jason_de_la_soul
- I think the IRC FAQ link should be posted right above the link to enter this room.
- Talie
- the rules are in the topic
- antsygirl
- jamesthehaxor was in here and left abruptly after this was pointed out
- Talie
- https://www.reddit.com/r/sdirc/wiki/rules
- darthfader
- I just don't understand the rules
- ShaleRocksBot
- Title: rules - sdirc at www.reddit.com.
- darthfader
- I'm going to leave
- Jason_de_la_soul
- details may trigger other people's cravings.
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- ElecR
- No talking about illicit drug use.
- ElecR
- That's not hard for me to understand.
- pandalete
- i agree
- Talie
- unless relevant to recovery, and keeping details fuzzy
- kiffren
- ;pew
- ShaleRocksBot
- kiffren: There was no pig, you fool!
- Talie
- also no condoning recreational drug use or drinking over sobriety
- antsygirl
- and evidently turned to a bottle he had stored away, citing this chat as a trigger for him and that made him feel shunned i guess
- Talie
- and no mentioning details or dosages or amounts of consumption
- ElecR
- Yeah, like current or future illicit drug use.
- pandalete
- for example talie - i can talk about how when drunk in the past ive used drugs but as long as i keep the rest of the details fuzzy im ok?
- Jason_de_la_soul
- right, I get it now. I have a tendency to become self absorbed at times, and need to remember I am not that important in the grand scheme of things.
- Talie
- yes
- ElecR
- Saying I'm on an antidepressant is fine.
- ElecR
- Saying I'm on XXmg of XXXXXX kind isn't.
- Talie
- pandalete ... talking in the context of your recovery is fine
- Jason_de_la_soul
- the rules are there to protect the collective conscience, they make a lot of sense.
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- kindheart
- jason Ive been talking about myself the whole 24 hours Ive been here but I try to not do it too much
- kindheart
- occasionally I fall asleep
- sobersamurai
- Anyone play video games to pass time sober
- Raiii56
- yes
- Mr_Tib
- me
- Mr_Tib
- rocket league
- Raiii56
- playing ffxiv on the other monitor now actually
- antsygirl
- rocket league!!
- Jason_de_la_soul
- video games, books, guitar, wikipedia, youtube... chess with strangers.
- Mr_Tib
- youtube is a time pit for me
- antsygirl
- it stresses me out sometimes though
- Lancelot
- I do sobersamurai
- antsygirl
- same with fps or games with a lot of combat
- Lancelot
- love the name sobersamurai
- antsygirl
- love me some skyrim still
- Lancelot
- are you an actual samurai?
- sobersamurai
- I played so much rocket league when I was not sober, It's like a trigger for me. All my steam friends who I played RL with, we would be intoxicated playing. I dont know wether to delete them or ignore them, they still hit me up to play
- sobersamurai
- thanks, I am not
- antsygirl
- try a different game?
- Lancelot
- Bummer.
- sobersamurai
- yeah thats what im doing, I started Bioshock yesterday. Think I need single player games
- Lancelot
- Yeah sobersamurai, I find it really difficult to deal with playing with people that are intoxicated at this point
- Raiii56
- try some good single player games.
- antsygirl
- single player games are my favourite
- Jason_de_la_soul
- video games though< I have pretty much stopped because I used to you know smurf w/my smurf while smurfing.
- sobersamurai
- like multiplayer games, competitive ones in particular, you get that like head rush when you win.
- antsygirl
- i play rocket league with some friends of mine who live far
- antsygirl
- one doesnt drink at all
- Lancelot
- multiplayer games are my jam because I'm competitive like you. I just play with friends that aren't getting loaded while playing
- antsygirl
- the other one drinks like twice a year, maybe
- antsygirl
- he called me at his Christmas party and told all his nurse friends about me lol
- antsygirl
- and kept saying he loves me
- sobersamurai
- What rank are you guys rocket league. Im plat 2
- Raiii56
- have you played the mass effect games yet? 1-3 are great
- kindheart
- everything is a trigger for me so I just give up on thinking about it
- sobersamurai
- Mass Effects are awesome, haven't played through the third though
- Lancelot
- How are you feeling today kindheart?
- kindheart
- I'm doing better, just tired and depression
- kindheart
- depressed
- kindheart
- anxious
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- Mr_Tib
- I know that feeling too well
- kindheart
- I dont want to do anything today
- kindheart
- except hide under the covers which I'm currently doing
- Jason_de_la_soul
- kindheart how much time do you have
- kindheart
- I dont need to go anywhere today
- Mr_Tib
- When are you having your next chore?
- kindheart
- I mean at some point i should buy cat food for the cat but I'm going to see how I am at 5pm today
- Mr_Tib
- like, somewhere you have to be? tomorrow? or something
- kindheart
- sunday
- pail
- w00t! i'm desperately clinging to what's left of the weekend!
- Jason_de_la_soul
- what is the badge command again?
- SnoobyDoo
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- SnoobyDoo: Your badges: On day 5 with sobriety.
- Jason_de_la_soul
- I am going to set mine up.
- Fatmandu
- badge help
- Fatmandu
- crap
- pail
- crap is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Thomas_Crapper.jpg
- SnoobyDoo
- ;badge help
- ShaleRocksBot
- SnoobyDoo: You don't have a badge by that name. Use ;badge to list your badges. Flags: -add -delete -update -cost, with -name="Badge Name" -date="a date string". Use -all to see all users' badges, use -all -name="Badge Name" to see all badges of a particular type for all users. Use -nick=SomeGuy to see SomeGuy's badges
- Fatmandu
- badge
- pail
- badge is raebot badge help
- raebot
- To ADD a badge, copy the following but replace "Sobriety" and "today" with whatever name and date you want to use:;badge -add -name="Sobriety" -date=today. To UPDATE a badge, copy the following but replace "Sobriety" and "today" appropriately:;badge -update -name="Sobriety" -date=today
- kindheart
- I'm going to try and clean up my room later on today though I'm just on low energy right now I am super tired
- Fatmandu
- let me know if you need help Jason_de_la_soul
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- SnoobyDoo
- what's you're sober date, Jason_de_la_soul
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- charliefloyd_
- Hi hi hi
- SnoobyDoo
- hi ashleyrae1111
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- 11_23_17 from alcohol, 12_28_17 from weed
- SnoobyDoo
- hi charliefloyd_
- charliefloyd_
- How ya do SnoobyDoo
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- ashleyrae1111
- Hey SnoobyDoo, everyone.
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: Want to add another recommendation for This Naked Mind by ComputingRelic http://redd.it/7odka8
- kindheart
- does anybody know how to get rid of the smoke smell in a house? I accidentally burned something on the stove a few days ago and I'm trying to get rid of the smell in the front room
- charliefloyd_
- Hi ashleyrae1111
- SnoobyDoo
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: you might want to settle on a definite nick
- SnoobyDoo
- badges are nick specific
- kindheart
- maybe I should try dusting the furniture or washing it
- ashleyrae1111
- Vinegar is supposed to help smelly stuff.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- this is my registered Nick. I am registered and allowed to change it to whatever I choose within the guidelines.
- kindheart
- It's like slowly going away but i want the smell gone by Sunday
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- the mods have my ip, and my email.
- ShaleRocksBot
- ~~(_ _)^: OINK
- ashleyrae1111
- ;pew
- ShaleRocksBot
- ashleyrae1111: You shot a pig. You have shot 838 animals in #stopdrinking
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;bef
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: There was no pig!
- ashleyrae1111
- It was just a suggestion.
- SnoobyDoo
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: okay, I didn't know that
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- nice ashleyrae1111 you got me.
- ashleyrae1111
- Man I am hungryyyy
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- Fatmandu
- you know how to fix that ashleyrae1111?
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- still trying to figure out how to add badge with 2 dates.
- SnoobyDoo
- add one at a time, give each a unique name
- sobersamurai
- anyone have any tips for a car battery that keeps dying because its so cold
- Fatmandu
- get the first set, then -add another I think
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- ShaleRocksBot
- She'll slap a puck or two.
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- ShaleRocksBot
- incertae-sedis: I should be asleep.
- Fatmandu
- sobersamurai, I used to use a heating pad on low around the battery
- MissFang
- sobersamurai: how long are you leaving your car off for?
- hotformen
- wazapp
- ashleyrae1111
- Eat, Fatmandu?
- Fatmandu
- not the temp hotformen
- Fatmandu
- ;addpoint ashleyrae1111
- hotformen
- we good here! above zero this weekend, i believe
- ShaleRocksBot
- ashleyrae1111 is now worth 11 in Fatmandu's eyes.
- MissFang
- urgh just woke up from a nap all sweaty and gross feeling
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge -add -name="Sobriety" -date=11/23/17
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: added badge 'Sobriety' with a date of 11/23/2017 for user Jason_de_la_Mancha.
- hotformen
- .weather edmonton, alberta
- sobrieti
- hotformen: Weather for Edmonton, Alberta | Temperature: 21°F / -6°C (Wind Chill: 13°F / -11°C); Humidity: 93%; Pressure: 30.02in / 101.7kPa; Conditions: Clear; Wind: South, 7mph / 11kph; Updated: 29 mins, 17 secs ago | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 29°F / -2°C; Low of 20°F / -7°C | Forecast for Saturday: Partly cloudy; High of 39°F / 4°C; Low of 23°F / -5°C
- MissFang
- ok thats pretty damn cold
- MissFang
- .weather blackpool, uk
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge -add -name="freedom from THC" -date=12/28/17
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: added badge 'freedom from THC' with a date of 12/28/2017 for user Jason_de_la_Mancha.
- sobrieti
- MissFang: Weather for Blackpool, United Kingdom | Temperature: 36°F / 2°C; Humidity: 93%; Pressure: 29.42in / 99.6kPa; Conditions: Shallow fog; Wind: Variable, 2mph / 3kph; Updated: 39 mins, 32 secs ago | Forecast for Friday: Chance of rain; High of 44°F / 6°C; Low of 35°F / 2°C | Forecast for Saturday: Partly cloudy; High of 42°F / 6°C; Low of 28°F / -2°C
- hotformen
- no way. i'm sweatin' today
- hotformen
- ahaha
- sobersamurai
- LEaving my car off for 2 days, I think thats why it died
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Your badges: On day 44 with Sobriety. On day 9 with freedom from THC.
- hotformen
- it was -40ish around christmas time
- MissFang
- I went out without a coat on today lol
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: “You have to do it every day. But it does get easier” by Peach-PearLaCroix http://redd.it/7odl4l
- Fatmandu
- we shou0d get to almost 0c Monday
- hotformen
- which was rubbish since i was off work and could've done some stuff if it didn't mean dying
- hotformen
- went ice skating the other night though.. for the first time in ~18 years
- hotformen
- ahaha
- kindheart
- I sweated a lot last night, today not as much.
- ElecR
- kindheart: Look around to see if you can rent an ozone generator. It'll get smells out. That's what they use before they rent out apartments.
- MissFang
- my ankles do not enjoy ice skating
- kindheart
- K elecR
- ElecR
- I didn't make it to ice skating in NYC.
- ElecR
- But I did plenty of stuff.
- MissFang
- kindheart: I've been doing it a lot recently. I think it's because i keep forgetting to turn the heat down before i sleep
- ElecR
- And the line at Rock Center was way too long.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge -update -name="freedom from THC" -date=12/27/17
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Badge freedom from THC updated to 12/27/2017.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Your badges: On day 44 with Sobriety. On day 10 with freedom from THC.
- hotformen
- ice skating is just like riding a bike, i found out
- hotformen
- you #neverforget
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- there we go. yeay!
- kindheart
- missfang, im still withdrawling I think
- MissFang
- kindheart: how are you feeling now?
- kindheart
- so I had all the windows wide open and I was sweating even when it was 50 degrees outside
- MissFang
- be careful if you go back, it can get worse each time
- hotformen
- i also went to the hockey game last night \m/
- hotformen
- beat those shitface ducks in a shoot out
- hotformen
- fuck u getzlaf
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- andypants: I just came in to look for the rest of my clothing.
- Talie
- Jason_de_la_Mancha did *you* tell jamesthehaxor not to discuss drugs, this morning?
- andypants
- Morning all
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge -add -name="freedom from opiods" -date=9/27/2010
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- Jason_de_la_Mancha: added badge 'freedom from opiods' with a date of 09/27/2010 for user Jason_de_la_Mancha.
- hotformen
- heyo
- andypants
- hotformen!
- pail
- hotformen is Princess Grey-a
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Your badges: On day 44 with Sobriety. On day 10 with freedom from THC. On day 2658 with freedom from opiods.
- kindheart
- I dont know if youre allowed to cuss on here but I feel like a piece of crap
- kindheart
- lol
- Talie
- symptoms
- pail
- https://www.mdcalc.com/ciwa-ar-alcohol-withdrawal
- ShaleRocksBot
- Title: CIWA-Ar for Alcohol Withdrawal - MDCalc at www.mdcalc.com.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge -add -name="days without a bet" -date=9/08/17
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: added badge 'days without a bet' with a date of 09/08/2017 for user Jason_de_la_Mancha.
- Talie
- checked that this morning kindheart ?
- hotformen
- kindheart nobody will ever stop me
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ;badge
- ShaleRocksBot
- Jason_de_la_Mancha: Your badges: On day 44 with Sobriety. On day 10 with freedom from THC. On day 2658 with freedom from opiods. On day 120 with days without a bet.
- hotformen
- andypants - how were your holidays?
- ShaleRocksBot
- New Post to stopdrinking: Friday night blues by Albus-Fumblepaws http://redd.it/7odmrr
- Talie
- Jason_de_la_Mancha I asked a question? Did you tell that user to stop talking about drugs just then?
- Talie
- It's not 12 hours ago that you made it clear you didn't understand our rules on that
- ElecR
- Cuss away kindheart, lol.
- Talie
- It's not ok for you to tell someone else what to do when you obviously have *no* concept of what our rules are, Jason_de_la_Mancha
- ElecR
- Except for that four letter C word.
- ElecR
- Or being mean to someone.
- kindheart
- Im a 6 for some reason today
- kindheart
- I was a 4 yesterday or maybe I filled it out while disoriented lol
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Talie?
- pail
- Talie is sparkly
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- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I didn't preach or scold, I shared my experience of my ignorance of the rules, and how I needed to learn them.
- Talie
- I'll get logs and look later
- Talie
- Please don't decide to tell other users the rules
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I didn't
- Talie
- I'll look later, I can't look now. I'm saying: please don't
- Talie
- Sorry, everyone else
- Talie
- Moving along
- amp
- its just another day
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- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- and I think it was someone else that was talking about how benzos make 1 drink feel like 4. That's when I stepped in and warned them, from my own experience with you.
- Talie
- Don't warn them, thank you
- Talie
- Moving along now
- andypants
- hotformen, they were ok
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- I am no authority here. If we are talking about OSHA and the NEC then I might be able to help answer questions.
- andypants
- I’m honestly happy to be through them
- hotformen
- andypants ditto
- hotformen
- RIP 2017
- ElecR
- I'm giving the Kroger brand La Croix ripoff a shot.
- hotformen
- u were shit.
- ElecR
- It's okaaay
- hotformen
- on to the next year :)
- exBlackoutArtist
- I'm having chocolate and non-alcoholic beer (0,0%) for my 30-days no alcohol friday
- exBlackoutArtist
- Or rather, I'm trying to figure out if there's any non-alcoholic beer that doesn't taste like waste water
- ElecR
- I never liked the taste of beer really.
- ElecR
- Means to an end.
- ElecR
- Liquor was more effective.
- Fatmandu
- ElecR, do you have an Aldi close? I think their house brand is rebranded LaCroix
- ElecR
- Rotgut.
- ElecR
- There is an Aldi nearby! I need to go there. I've only been once.
- ElecR
- Very European. Tres chic, lol.
- hotformen
- exblackoutartist i had a really good one recently. i'll try to find out what it was called
- Fatmandu
- the cherry lime is identical
- exBlackoutArtist
- hotformen: no idea if it's available here, but you can try :D
- hotformen
- i typically drink the erdinger cause it's widely available here, but it's not really that great.
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- Talie, I didn't warn anyone specifically, I made a generic statement about how I violated rules in the past. What should I have done?
- kindheart
- Ive only been to trader joes but aldi is not too far from me
- hotformen
- the prohibition is ok
- Grootheidswaan
- exBlackoutArtist I like alcohol free weis beers
- ElecR
- I had a Bolle mineral water in NYC.
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- ElecR
- It was amazing.
- ElecR
- Expensive as hell.
- ElecR
- Fancy bottle.
- ElecR
- From Italy.
- ElecR
- Worth it.
- Lancelot
- Really?
- Lancelot
- Hmm
- pail uh huh
- ElecR
- Not an everyday thing, but I was in NYC on Christmas Day with my brother.
- ElecR
- Can't even find it in DFW so far.
- ElecR
- No Whole Foods or Kroger at least.
- hotformen
- exblackoutartist it was called clausthaler
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- hotformen
- :)
- Lancelot
- That's something I would have looked down on in my past but now am totally open to
- Fatmandu
- hello amt2018
- Lancelot
- I spend way too much on like sparkling waters when I go out to restaurants
- exBlackoutArtist
- hotformen: I'll write that down and check if I can find it
- hotformen
- :)
- ElecR
- I usually just have still water at restaurants. Free stuff.
- ElecR
- Oh, and coffee with dessert.
- amt2018
- hi - first time here..thought I'd stop by
- ElecR
- Howdy amt2018!
- exBlackoutArtist
- hello!
- ElecR
- Glad you're here!
- Fatmandu
- welcome
- Raiii56
- hey!
- Talie
- hi amt2018 :) welcome to the chat! how long sober?
- ElecR
- How long do you have sober?
- Jason_de_la_Mancha
- i hope i never start power tripping on my sobriety.
- kindheart
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