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  1. Pain gets his shit SE'd more than once ROFL on COMPLETELY DIFF DATES and admits that rebel made him the irc'er he is today.
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  4. Session Start: Sat Nov 24 14:55:30 2018
  5. Session Ident: Pain
  6. (14:55:30) Session Ident: Pain (pain@network.idiot)
  7. (14:55:30) (Pain) pipacs.
  8. (15:21:25) (Pain) i was serious, find ay/r0 and ill give you a 0day
  9. (15:24:59) (the_accountant) i have to catch my guy on xmpp, he can get in contact with him but getting a response back isnt guaranteed from ay.
  10. (15:25:10) (the_accountant) and the guy i have to catch on xmpp is only on there once or twice a month for a few minutes
  11. (15:25:26) (the_accountant) i've been looking for everyone anyway, ill eventually find him
  12. (15:25:39) (Pain) they're not offline dude
  13. (15:25:42) (the_accountant) i know
  14. (15:25:46) (the_accountant) they will find me soon
  15. (15:25:47) (Pain) they just want to be quiet
  16. (15:25:49) (the_accountant) i wont have to find them
  17. (15:26:00) (Pain) we've been very busy
  18. (15:26:45) (the_accountant) and i know they didnt go offline man we are all always online we just pickup and move where we hang out at because of idiots
  19. (15:27:11) (the_accountant) it was mostly the recruiter's fault and ill continue to blame him
  20. (15:27:28) (Pain) he is the key to greatness
  21. (15:27:36) (Pain) you just have to over look his shortcomings
  22. (15:27:40) (Pain) hes highly intelligent
  23. (15:27:48) (the_accountant) at times but he can be so stupid
  24. (15:28:31) (Pain) the 0day was written today but not tested
  25. (15:28:39) (Pain) i intend on checking it out myself later on
  26. (15:28:49) (Pain) it wasnt written by us
  27. (15:28:55) (Pain) but by someone who wasnt even looking for it
  28. (15:29:04) (the_accountant) thats usually how it works
  29. (15:29:05) (the_accountant) lol
  30. (15:29:44) (Pain) where have you been hiding nayway
  31. (15:30:33) (the_accountant) collision destroyed my neck and right shoulder blade
  32. (15:33:22) (Pain) damn
  33. (15:33:25) (the_accountant) after i got out of the hospital, i haven't been getting online, just working on a project that ill be releasing really soon
  34. (15:33:43) (the_accountant) they put me on pain killers and i've just nonstop been at it
  35. (15:33:47) (Pain) we're close to finishing our project
  36. (15:33:59) (Pain) final few pieces and some code polishing
  37. (15:34:07) (the_accountant) i finished my eyes
  38. (15:34:35) (the_accountant) i have my eye on everything similar to darpanet now
  39. (15:34:39) (the_accountant) and i don't mean the legal function
  40. (15:35:10) (Pain) YOU BUILT IT
  41. (15:35:13) (Pain) FUCK YOU
  42. (15:35:15) (Pain) FUCK
  43. (15:35:18) (the_accountant) yes
  44. (15:35:23) (the_accountant) you thought i would leave the all seeing eye
  45. (15:35:28) (Pain) izas kept fucking going on about how impposible it is
  46. (15:35:34) (the_accountant) its not
  47. (15:35:39) (Pain) we had a falling out the other night about it
  48. (15:35:42) (Pain) i told that nigger
  49. (15:35:43) (the_accountant) darpanet has it going i was the one who brought up that idea ages ago
  50. (15:35:44) (Pain) i knew i was fuckign right
  51. (15:35:48) (the_accountant) ask peanut3r man he has one up
  52. (15:35:53) (Pain) i know
  53. (15:35:54) (Pain) ive seen it
  54. (15:35:56) (the_accountant) its not impossible
  55. (15:35:57) (the_accountant) me too
  56. (15:35:58) (Pain) ive told no one about it
  57. (15:36:00) (Pain) but improvied it
  58. (15:36:04) (the_accountant) same
  59. (15:36:12) (the_accountant) i rebuilt what he made
  60. (15:36:16) (the_accountant) in my own image
  61. (15:36:18) (Pain) hes autmated red teaming now in a similar fashion
  62. (15:36:22) (Pain) he can mass exploit with ease
  63. (15:36:26) (Pain) or target if he wants
  64. (15:36:29) (the_accountant) haha nice
  65. (15:36:42) (Pain) im both pissed and impressed
  66. (15:37:13) (the_accountant) i just knew about that concept for the longest time, im pretty sure i brought it up didn't i?
  67. (15:37:30) (the_accountant) maybe not, i just remember when nut used to speak on it about 4 or 5 years ago
  68. (15:37:39) (the_accountant) thats when i started the idea to do this on my own
  69. (15:38:15) (the_accountant) i remember subz and peanut3r in darpanet speakin on it
  70. (15:38:18) (Pain) fucking christ
  71. (15:38:19) (the_accountant) i can almost remember the conversation word for word
  72. (15:38:25) (the_accountant) on how they said they were going to build it, and i used that
  73. (15:38:33) (Pain) you're in the discord arent you
  74. (15:38:39) (the_accountant) no
  75. (15:38:43) (Pain) i am
  76. (15:38:46) (Pain) :P
  77. (15:38:52) (the_accountant) lol
  78. (15:39:10) (Pain) to day i joined i had my entire life histroy splayed out in front of me
  79. (15:39:15) (Pain) from that all seeing eye
  80. (15:39:40) (the_accountant) peanut3r came up with that name
  81. (15:39:43) (the_accountant) i just stuck with it
  82. (15:39:52) (the_accountant) he made that as a gift of 2016 i think
  83. (15:39:54) (the_accountant) or 2017
  84. (15:39:55) (the_accountant) to darpanet
  85. (15:40:07) (the_accountant) right at xmas time
  86. (15:40:19) (the_accountant) fckd is in there too
  87. (15:40:20) (Pain) im going
  88. (15:40:23) (Pain) to fucking
  89. (15:40:25) (Pain) grill that nigger
  90. (15:40:27) (Pain) yes i know
  91. (15:40:32) (Pain) ive known troy for centuries
  92. (15:40:36) (Pain) talked to him last night actually
  93. (15:40:37) (the_accountant) i was surprised to see fckd there
  94. (15:40:54) (the_accountant) this was long ago, but seeing him there changed a lot of ideas i had about fckd
  95. (15:40:58) (the_accountant) i always saw him as a lowly bot coder
  96. (15:41:04) (the_accountant) hes always been attached to those damn bots!
  97. (15:41:05) (Pain) you're not wrong
  98. (15:41:12) (the_accountant) but he is a smart guy
  99. (15:41:23) (the_accountant) just got hooked on something limited when he had a lot of potential
  100. (15:41:48) (the_accountant) or maybe he just didnt talk passed his bots and kept everything secret, who knows
  101. (15:42:45) (the_accountant) so how is luno
  102. (15:42:46) (Pain) he puts on a good show
  103. (15:42:48) (Pain) il lgive hi mthat
  104. (15:42:54) (Pain) hes not wreckless though
  105. (15:42:59) (Pain) luno you mention
  106. (15:43:05) (Pain) people have taken his word
  107. (15:43:07) (Pain) hes in #phrack
  108. (15:43:12) (Pain) and yokai loves him
  109. (15:43:15) (the_accountant) really?
  110. (15:43:22) (Pain) dead serious
  111. (15:43:24) (the_accountant) he was the shortcomings i was speaking of
  112. (15:43:26) (Pain) ive outted him a few times
  113. (15:43:29) (Pain) by accident
  114. (15:43:36) (the_accountant) how does he stay at yokai's side
  115. (15:43:42) (the_accountant) yokai is a pretentious asshole for no reason
  116. (15:43:43) (Pain) do meth
  117. (15:43:44) (Pain) lol
  118. (15:43:52) (Pain) an old head came back
  119. (15:43:55) (Pain) and has been showing me the ropes
  120. (15:44:05) (the_accountant) aes?
  121. (15:44:06) (Pain) he wrote a phrack article in early 00's
  122. (15:44:11) (the_accountant) aesther?
  123. (15:44:18) (Pain) and that old head and luno know each other
  124. (15:44:21) (Pain) aether
  125. (15:44:24) (Pain) no
  126. (15:44:32) (Pain) and that old head vetted luno
  127. (15:44:35) (Pain) which
  128. (15:44:37) (Pain) im still in shock
  129. (15:44:40) (Pain) and its been like a year
  130. (15:44:45) (the_accountant) what the fuck
  131. (15:44:48) (the_accountant) lol
  132. (15:44:51) (Pain) thats what i said
  133. (15:44:55) (Pain) i explained to the dude everythign i know
  134. (15:44:57) (the_accountant) im so confused right now
  135. (15:45:02) (the_accountant) yokai usually BASHES idiots
  136. (15:45:03) (Pain) 'sounds like him, but you should take his word'
  137. (15:45:05) (the_accountant) luno cant help himself
  138. (15:45:06) (the_accountant) how the fuck
  139. (15:45:18) (Pain) sit in phrack@efnet for 20 minnutes
  140. (15:45:21) (Pain) you'll figure out who he is
  141. (15:45:23) (Pain) pretty quickly
  142. (15:45:25) (the_accountant) haha
  143. (15:45:31) (the_accountant) i havent made my way to efnet yet
  144. (15:45:39) (Pain) you're not missing much
  145. (15:45:45) (Pain) the skids doxed each other last week
  146. (15:45:48) (Pain) was hilarious
  147. (15:45:55) (Pain) the kid i got the root list from got the worst of it
  148. (15:45:57) (the_accountant) that part i never liked
  149. (15:46:01) (the_accountant) its funny but honestly
  150. (15:46:04) (the_accountant) why are we telling on each other
  151. (15:46:08) (the_accountant) you realize we are going to jail right
  152. (15:46:11) (the_accountant) when we get doxed
  153. (15:46:15) (Pain) i got the info from chrono and certified them
  154. (15:46:20) (Pain) cuz ive had the one dudes dox for months now
  155. (15:46:42) (the_accountant) lol
  156. (15:46:46) (the_accountant) did storm come back
  157. (15:46:55) (Pain) to be entirely honest, things are about to get a lot tighter around here
  158. (15:46:56) (the_accountant) that guy got ran off last i saw
  159. (15:46:57) (Pain) yes
  160. (15:47:09) (the_accountant) why do you say taht
  161. (15:47:10) (Pain) he retired
  162. (15:47:13) (Pain) fro mwhat i was told
  163. (15:47:18) (the_accountant) whats getting tight?
  164. (15:47:26) (the_accountant) everyone scheming you mean
  165. (15:47:29) (the_accountant) at the same time?
  166. (15:47:32) (Pain) while i have specific apps secured and select things higher than that
  167. (15:47:32) (the_accountant) xmas year party again? lol
  168. (15:47:37) (Pain) security on my computer isnt as i would like
  169. (15:47:50) (the_accountant) you have to start with yourself man
  170. (15:47:59) (the_accountant) then secure everything else
  171. (15:48:01) (Pain) the feds are gonna commit suicide trying to get into my shit
  172. (15:48:08) (the_accountant) oh that
  173. (15:48:13) (Pain) ive planned everytjing t oa T
  174. (15:48:16) (Pain) even the all seeing eye
  175. (15:48:16) (the_accountant) nah dont sweat that man keep doing the same old shit we always do
  176. (15:48:31) (the_accountant) do the dirt in a VM away from you FS and snapshot to prior when done
  177. (15:48:52) (Pain) i got something fo they asses
  178. (15:49:06) (the_accountant) lol what'd you setup a false power button
  179. (15:49:17) (Pain) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tezjT5l3CdE
  180. (15:51:30) (the_accountant) nice song lol
  181. (15:53:51) (Pain) 176.31.244.14 2323 ns1.2imahl.fr 220 CUIR CUIR MOUSTACHE (glFTPd 2.02+v6_20111227 64BiT Linux+TLS) ready.\r\n
  182. (15:53:53) (Pain) wat
  183. (15:53:59) (Pain) HON HON MOUSTACHE
  184. (15:54:06)  
  185. (15:54:06) [ whois: the_accountant ]
  186. (15:54:06)  › name: x90
  187. (15:54:06)  › address: goldieloxx@gzlines-248.n2u.f48g0n.IP
  188. (15:54:06)  › channels: +#security (1)
  189. (15:54:06)  › auth: pharmer
  190. (15:54:06)  › the_accountant is connecting from goldieloxx@185.220.101.46 185.220.101.46
  191. (15:54:06)  › the_accountant is using modes +ix
  192. (15:54:06)  › the_accountant is using a secure connection
  193. (15:54:06)  › the_accountant has client certificate fingerprint 86371106cc726e3b6ce65eb6397ddb00966af706
  194. (15:54:06)  › server: deepstate.blackhats.ru (irc.blackhats.ru deepstate)
  195. (15:54:06)  › idle: 2m 35s, signed on: 13:46:45 - 24/11/2018 (2h 7m 21s ago)
  196. (15:54:06) [ /whois: 15:54 ]
  197. (15:54:06)  
  198. (15:54:16) (the_accountant) lmao
  199. (15:54:29) (Pain) oh yea i have a shodan key now
  200. (15:54:35) (Pain) made my life so much easier
  201. (15:54:44) (the_accountant) my friend has shodan clone
  202. (15:55:04) (the_accountant) some upper tier wtfux guys
  203. (15:55:13) (the_accountant) they wont share or tell anyone but they have it
  204. (15:55:36) (Pain) and here i thought they were idle play things
  205. (15:55:40) (Pain) funny
  206. (15:55:57) (the_accountant) theres only a couple that do anything
  207. (15:56:02) (the_accountant) l34k hides in public
  208. (15:56:09) (the_accountant) l34k is brilliant
  209. (15:56:31) (Pain) lol
  210. (15:56:38) (Pain) wtfux ripped a site i ran
  211. (15:56:43) (Pain) and tried to pass it off as theirs
  212. (15:56:48) (Pain) that shit got rm'd quickly
  213. (15:56:52) (the_accountant) the majority of them are fucking morons
  214. (15:57:00) (the_accountant) there are a couple of htem who grouped off with others
  215. (15:57:04) (the_accountant) but are still considered 'wtfux'
  216. (15:57:09) (the_accountant) cause thats where they came from
  217. (15:57:15) (the_accountant) l34k is way better than all of them but he's still considered wtfux
  218. (15:57:30) (Pain) i dont go there but i know about them
  219. (15:57:31) (the_accountant) jihad is a fucking dumbass beyond recognition
  220. (15:57:38) (Pain) that wasnt the only time we've rm'd something of theirs
  221. (15:57:42) (Pain) yes, i talk t ohim daily
  222. (15:57:45) (Pain) i try to avoid him
  223. (15:57:48) (the_accountant) jihad?
  224. (15:57:49) (the_accountant) lol
  225. (15:57:51) (the_accountant) hes so dumb man
  226. (15:57:53) (Pain) yea
  227. (15:57:59) (Pain) ive heard
  228. (15:58:02) (Pain) from multiple peoepl
  229. (15:58:03) (the_accountant) everything he voices is actually kind of lame
  230. (15:58:08) (the_accountant) thats why he doesnt talk much in public
  231. (15:58:12) (the_accountant) and if he does its something someone else recommended to him
  232. (15:58:15) (the_accountant) its not his finding
  233. (15:58:16) (Pain) he almost got owned
  234. (15:58:19) (Pain) for running his gums
  235. (15:58:21) (the_accountant) he did get owned
  236. (15:58:25) (Pain) hahahaha
  237. (15:58:29) (Pain) i saw people were prepping
  238. (15:58:40) (the_accountant) he wont tell anyone but
  239. (15:58:40) (Pain) didnt watch it go down though
  240. (15:59:07) (the_accountant) he actually got hacked by that guy MLT and ret
  241. (15:59:16) (Pain) ret i believe, mlt i dont
  242. (15:59:33) (the_accountant) i dont know people bounce between the 2 of them man, some say mlt can hack, some say ret can
  243. (15:59:37) (the_accountant) i dont know what the fuck to believe
  244. (15:59:44) (the_accountant) somehow they are pulling shit out of their ass
  245. (15:59:46) (the_accountant) or were.
  246. (15:59:56) (Pain) ret is godly
  247. (15:59:59) (Pain) but a lesser one
  248. (16:00:12) (Pain) he would be the face
  249. (16:00:14) (Pain) if you will
  250. (16:00:21) (Pain) the rest dont come to the public often
  251. (16:00:24) (Pain) unless its required
  252. (16:00:31) (Pain) very strict
  253. (16:00:33) (the_accountant) how does ret seem so fucking stupid when he chats publicly
  254. (16:00:42) (Pain) hes on coke
  255. (16:00:45) (Pain) if hes on IRC, hes on coke
  256. (16:00:59) (Pain) i would like to talk t ohim though
  257. (16:01:07) (Pain) cant seem to pin him down for more than 5 minutes
  258. (16:01:48) (the_accountant) that's confusing i thought MLT was the smarter of the 2
  259. (16:02:41) (Pain) MLT is an ambulance chaser
  260. (16:02:50) (Pain) anyone whos around defiler that long
  261. (16:02:52) (Pain) knows nothing
  262. (16:03:02) (the_accountant) haha
  263. (16:03:11) (the_accountant) who is defiler
  264. (16:03:16) (Pain) he posted a cve recently
  265. (16:03:19) (Pain) last few motnhs
  266. (16:04:10) (the_accountant) defiler == ret ?
  267. (16:06:50) (the_accountant) before that guy ret left he hacked another server
  268. (16:07:08) (the_accountant) i'm trying to find him so if you find him let me know
  269. (16:08:13) (Pain) hard to pin that guy down
  270. (16:08:43) (the_accountant) who is ret anyway? i know a little about him but is that defiler?
  271. (16:09:27) (Pain) nah
  272. (16:09:47) (the_accountant) im being told it is
  273. (16:10:07) (the_accountant) ret == return == defiler == n0de9 == rebel
  274. (16:10:12) (the_accountant) ret is the name he used for his bot
  275. (16:10:33) (the_accountant) some mirc bot
  276. (16:10:37) (Pain) he was trying to emulate him
  277. (16:10:42) (Pain) defiler is brandon
  278. (16:10:49) (the_accountant) ret is defiler
  279. (16:10:52) (the_accountant) lol
  280. (16:10:58) (the_accountant) there was no other ret
  281. (16:11:16) (Pain) theres _ret
  282. (16:11:23) (Pain) old head
  283. (16:11:44) (the_accountant) oh him, yea that's different. i thought we were talking about 'ret' earlier who stole shit
  284. (16:12:31) (the_accountant) the only ret MLT knew
  285. (16:12:36) (the_accountant) was defiler
  286. (16:13:06) (the_accountant) i know a lot more than im leading on to know, im just seeing what facts you have
  287. (16:13:38) (Pain) ive noticed
  288. (16:13:50) (Pain) in fact im quite aware of it
  289. (16:14:44) (the_accountant) there was never an old head named _ret
  290. (16:14:46) (the_accountant) not anyhwere we hung out
  291. (16:14:48) (the_accountant) that was defiler
  292. (16:14:57) (the_accountant) the reason he seemed stupid as fuck is because it was defiler
  293. (16:15:46) (the_accountant) it wasnt cocaine it was all the shit that guy was on
  294. (16:15:59) (the_accountant) let me let you in on a secret, luno didnt let that guy in for nothing
  295. (16:16:14) (the_accountant) and vpq/zmda didnt take a liking to him so strongly because he's the biggest moron on IRC
  296. (16:16:31) (the_accountant) i actually liked him when he first came in but he turned into an emotional bitch who ruined everything
  297. (16:17:32) (the_accountant) that guy hacked efnet right before he joined our cause
  298. (16:18:06) (the_accountant) that's the reason luno and vpq brought him in, he hacked iptorrents and efnet back to ack
  299. (16:18:24) (the_accountant) within 24 hours on fucking new years haha
  300. (16:19:14) (Pain) when was this?
  301. (16:19:16) (the_accountant) and before he disappeared as 'ret' he hacked an #howtohack and destroyed their irc, uberlame, sipa, a lot of other very well informed hackers
  302. (16:19:17) (Pain) lol
  303. (16:19:39) (the_accountant) zempirians killed their network because of him right before he left.
  304. (16:19:48) (the_accountant) i saw it all in ##security on freenode, he kept bragging
  305. (16:20:03) (the_accountant) he hacked efnet 2017
  306. (16:20:13) (the_accountant) look at efnet.org, that was defaced with his name on it
  307. (16:20:19) (the_accountant) he put storm on there and gave storm credit for hacking efnet
  308. (16:20:39) (the_accountant) he added himself as admin for 2 of the main hubs and started to vote storm off efnet until they removed his access
  309. (16:20:59) (the_accountant) they still have the news up as 'data breach'
  310. (16:21:09) (Pain) yea i saw that
  311. (16:21:13) (the_accountant) ask yokai
  312. (16:21:20) (the_accountant) he was pissing his pants while that guy was doing it
  313. (16:21:24) (the_accountant) he was telling yokai in pm
  314. (16:21:28) (the_accountant) everything as he was hacking
  315. (16:21:33) (the_accountant) under fish crypt
  316. (16:21:36) (the_accountant) ask yokai
  317. (16:21:57) (the_accountant) one thing i know is all the people who hacked efnet
  318. (16:21:59) (the_accountant) and hes on the list
  319. (16:22:20) (Pain) yokai did it
  320. (16:22:22) (Pain) lol
  321. (16:22:24) (the_accountant) no he didnt
  322. (16:22:31) (the_accountant) defiler and MLT did it
  323. (16:22:43) (the_accountant) i watched them and he was telling yokai about all of it in pm as it was happening
  324. (16:22:48) (the_accountant) yokai was yelling at him telling him to fuck off
  325. (16:22:54) (the_accountant) cause yokai was paranoid
  326. (16:23:02) (the_accountant) dont listen to yokai lie if he said he did it man
  327. (16:23:05) (the_accountant) ask him what the deface said
  328. (16:23:10) (the_accountant) why did it say zerosec, defiler's network?
  329. (16:23:17) (the_accountant) why did storm get credit, yokai doesnt speak to hi
  330. (16:23:19) (the_accountant) m
  331. (16:23:25) (the_accountant) nor does he care about storm
  332. (16:23:42) (the_accountant) they advertised irc.k0de.org which lead to defiler's old network
  333. (16:23:48) (the_accountant) on the deface
  334. (16:23:53) (the_accountant) why would yokai do that for defiler and MLT?
  335. (16:24:30) (the_accountant) you have to tell me pain, is yokai taking credit for work that isnt his?
  336. (16:24:34) (the_accountant) i need to put yokai in his place, if so
  337. (16:24:46) (the_accountant) i am the eyes man, i see everything and know who did everything
  338. (16:24:53) (the_accountant) i ask everyone what they think happened and give them the truth later
  339. (16:25:15) (the_accountant) and somehow you just called defiler a god
  340. (16:25:23) (the_accountant) :\
  341. (16:25:25) (Pain) you got your facts all wrong
  342. (16:25:29) (the_accountant) no i don't
  343. (16:25:37) (Pain) i assure you, you do
  344. (16:25:47) (Pain) i ousted defiler on howtohack irc
  345. (16:25:47) (the_accountant) im positive you have no idea if you are listening to yokai
  346. (16:25:55) (the_accountant) man, defiler hacked that place
  347. (16:25:55) (Pain) and planted it in his head that chrono hacked insecurity
  348. (16:25:56) (the_accountant) haha
  349. (16:26:11) (Pain) he went to chronbo with my evidence
  350. (16:26:12) (the_accountant) you guys made defiler madd saying that
  351. (16:26:15) (the_accountant) and he hacked howtohack
  352. (16:26:15) (Pain) and chrono showed it to me
  353. (16:26:26) (Pain) i still have the log
  354. (16:26:27) (the_accountant) that server wasnt that secure
  355. (16:26:46) (Pain) defiler tried to be ret after he had a falling otu with zmda
  356. (16:26:47) (the_accountant) you mean that social engineering that iheard about?
  357. (16:26:53) (Pain) ret != defiler
  358. (16:26:56) (Pain) in any capacity
  359. (16:26:57) (the_accountant) ret is defiler man
  360. (16:26:59) (the_accountant) lol
  361. (16:27:02) (the_accountant) name who ret is then
  362. (16:27:06) (Pain) ive met ret
  363. (16:27:07) (the_accountant) tell me who he used to be
  364. (16:27:14) (Pain) ret has always been ret
  365. (16:27:19) (Pain) even yokai knows that
  366. (16:27:27) (the_accountant) what does ret do
  367. (16:27:28) (Pain) its in his pr0ph1l3
  368. (16:27:37) (the_accountant) who does he know
  369. (16:27:43) (Pain) ret is a nigerian (honestly)
  370. (16:27:46) (Pain) defiler lives in texas
  371. (16:27:50) (the_accountant) that is all wrong
  372. (16:27:52) (the_accountant) defiler doesnt live in texas
  373. (16:27:52) (Pain) two entirely different people
  374. (16:27:54) (the_accountant) i have his full dox
  375. (16:27:59) (the_accountant) he never has lived in texas
  376. (16:28:01) (Pain) oklahoma then
  377. (16:28:03) (the_accountant) not 1 day in his life
  378. (16:28:04) (the_accountant) no
  379. (16:28:05) (the_accountant) wrong again
  380. (16:28:16) (Pain) then where
  381. (16:28:16) (the_accountant) he's lived in 2 states
  382. (16:28:24) (the_accountant) youll see soon, im dropping a lot of dox
  383. (16:28:29) (the_accountant) Green from UIA @ supernets
  384. (16:28:32) (the_accountant) chrono
  385. (16:28:34) (the_accountant) defiler
  386. (16:28:34) (Pain) im just trying to correct you
  387. (16:28:35) (the_accountant) MLT
  388. (16:28:41) (the_accountant) im trying to help you
  389. (16:28:47) (Pain) dont dox green
  390. (16:28:49) (the_accountant) there may be a previous ret
  391. (16:28:54) (Pain) that will be the last thing you ever do online
  392. (16:28:59) (the_accountant) but defiler was the latest 'ret'
  393. (16:29:05) (the_accountant) and he did hack 'howtohack' under that nick
  394. (16:29:13) (Pain) green is the exact last person you want to fuck with
  395. (16:29:26) (the_accountant) i think you forget what all i may be able to do
  396. (16:29:29) (Pain) even peanut3r holds him to high regard
  397. (16:29:31) (the_accountant) i know who and waht green does
  398. (16:29:41) (the_accountant) i know how peanut3r holds him
  399. (16:30:06) (the_accountant) i understand green's skills
  400. (16:30:18) (the_accountant) i also understand what i've taken on in the past year
  401. (16:30:25) (the_accountant) and i know green never reached this point
  402. (16:30:28) (the_accountant) hes taking on contracts right now
  403. (16:30:31) (the_accountant) to hack other networks
  404. (16:30:48) (the_accountant) you said you hacked insecurity right?
  405. (16:30:56) (the_accountant) nobody hacked that
  406. (16:30:57) (the_accountant) lol
  407. (16:31:00) (the_accountant) i watched that entire fallout
  408. (16:31:24) (Pain) i didnt hack it
  409. (16:31:31) (Pain) i have an indirect touch
  410. (16:31:36) (the_accountant) defiler gave out all the info and told lola to rm the box and redo it, knowing people were in. lola said it was fine and MLT told everyone not to secure it, that lola would
  411. (16:31:38) (Pain) i know who did though
  412. (16:31:45) (Pain) i had dox on lola
  413. (16:31:51) (the_accountant) lola gave the information away
  414. (16:31:51) (Pain) and was prepping to rm it myself
  415. (16:31:54) (Pain) when chrono took over
  416. (16:31:54) (the_accountant) yea
  417. (16:32:08) (the_accountant) lola screwed them over and went to wtfux side after, right before wtfux got hacked
  418. (16:32:12) (the_accountant) then lola disappeared
  419. (16:32:13) (Pain) the log you saw about his domain names and FuZi0N
  420. (16:32:17) (Pain) was from a private database i run
  421. (16:32:33) (Pain) i gave defiler everything he needed
  422. (16:32:37) (Pain) to drive himself int othe ground
  423. (16:32:42) (the_accountant) lol nice
  424. (16:32:42) (Pain) and he did it in spectaular fashion
  425. (16:32:56) (Pain) but it did not saite me
  426. (16:33:20) (Pain) there are some things i cant tell you
  427. (16:33:25) (Pain) but this is the one thing you're gonna have to trust me on
  428. (16:33:29) (Pain) defiler is not the ret i know
  429. (16:33:31) (Pain) hes used the nick
  430. (16:33:33) (Pain) to emulate him
  431. (16:33:34) (the_accountant) saite?
  432. (16:33:35) (Pain) and gain his respect
  433. (16:33:40) (Pain) but you dont want the respect ret holds
  434. (16:33:58) (Pain) ret and yokai had a falling out a few years ago
  435. (16:34:01) (Pain) yokai wants him dead
  436. (16:34:10) (the_accountant) oh trust me i didnt have anything to do with that, and to be honest with you i don't think defiler tried to emulate ret
  437. (16:34:15) (Pain) the ret i know is not the same one who hacked efnet
  438. (16:34:19) (Pain) and yokai owned it years ago
  439. (16:34:23) (Pain) under the 2l8 banner
  440. (16:34:26) (Pain) yokai is iHaq
  441. (16:34:33) (the_accountant) he named his bot ret after 'return' because he was getting more and more into kernel development
  442. (16:34:42) (the_accountant) we were teaching him
  443. (16:34:47) (the_accountant) it had nothing to do with the old head ret
  444. (16:34:48) (Pain) in his fucking dreams
  445. (16:34:54) (the_accountant) he actually had a grasp on it
  446. (16:34:55) (Pain) in his mother fucking dreams
  447. (16:34:57) (the_accountant) he was repeating shit back to us
  448. (16:35:02) (the_accountant) days later
  449. (16:35:05) (Pain) because of what zmda showed him, and he logged
  450. (16:35:10) (the_accountant) of his own findings, his own owrk
  451. (16:35:17) (Pain) he passes that shit off so people think it was him
  452. (16:35:18) (the_accountant) you're saying he logged everything zmda said?
  453. (16:35:22) (Pain) ive seen defiler at work
  454. (16:35:23) (the_accountant) and repeated?
  455. (16:35:23) (Pain) yes
  456. (16:35:27) (Pain) and everyone else
  457. (16:35:33) (the_accountant) haha
  458. (16:35:33) (Pain) sAv is a friend of mine
  459. (16:35:41) (Pain) ive heard stories from #dmt
  460. (16:35:45) (Pain) i didnt even have to be there
  461. (16:36:00) (Pain) like i said
  462. (16:36:02) (Pain) indirect
  463. (16:36:02) (the_accountant) i heard stories about that too
  464. (16:36:10) (the_accountant) thats why i was asking you, cause i heard bad things of defiler/ret
  465. (16:36:13) (Pain) theres a lot im not telling you
  466. (16:36:16) (the_accountant) i thought you were saying ret is defiler
  467. (16:36:19) (Pain) because it would incriminate so many people
  468. (16:36:20) (the_accountant) cause ret doesnt hang out with MLT
  469. (16:36:26) (the_accountant) its defiler that hacked wtfux
  470. (16:36:29) (the_accountant) defiler and MLT
  471. (16:37:10) (the_accountant) im not so sure you know every side of every story pain
  472. (16:37:18) (the_accountant) i know defiler is a complete idiot
  473. (16:37:21) (the_accountant) but i've had conversations with him
  474. (16:37:22) (Pain) im the hidden hand in a lot of things
  475. (16:37:29) (Pain) you'd be suprised what i know
  476. (16:37:31) (the_accountant) zmda and luno, everyone, how would they let him into private areas
  477. (16:37:38) (the_accountant) without knowing anything?
  478. (16:37:57) (Pain) defiler learned my worst quality
  479. (16:38:05) (the_accountant) defiler made you who you are today
  480. (16:38:06) (Pain) hes able to make it seem like hes worth more than it is
  481. (16:38:09) (the_accountant) dont forget that
  482. (16:38:09) (Pain) when i was 17 this was nice
  483. (16:38:15) (Pain) i got into shit i shouldnt have ever touched
  484. (16:38:15) (the_accountant) he invited you
  485. (16:38:19) (Pain) but when you're almost 30
  486. (16:38:19) (the_accountant) i remember that too
  487. (16:38:20) (Pain) and still doing it
  488. (16:38:22) (Pain) its very bad
  489. (16:38:34) (the_accountant) you have the contacts you have because of that skid
  490. (16:38:34) (Pain) he turned me into someone ive wanted to be
  491. (16:38:37) (Pain) ive always been who i am
  492. (16:38:44) (the_accountant) then why are you trashing him so badly
  493. (16:38:47) (Pain) he just lit the fire
  494. (16:38:52) (the_accountant) how is that a problem
  495. (16:38:57) (Pain) in all fairness Yog
  496. (16:38:59) (Pain) he started it.
  497. (16:39:11) (the_accountant) in all fairness i think it was your friends who started it
  498. (16:39:13) (the_accountant) and flipped scripts on you
  499. (16:39:18) (the_accountant) and you turned on people not understanding
  500. (16:39:27) (the_accountant) you go with crowds, i watch your movement
  501. (16:39:42) (Pain) i knew it.
  502. (16:39:47) (Pain) but you dont see everything
  503. (16:39:52) (Pain) i just come out clean o nthe otherside
  504. (16:39:54) (Pain) im guilty as sin
  505. (16:40:01) (Pain) but what you see is me washing myself of it
  506. (16:40:14) (the_accountant) everyone has their faults though right
  507. (16:40:17) (Pain) and i washed my hands of him
  508. (16:40:20) (the_accountant) are yours better than anyone elses
  509. (16:40:28) (the_accountant) im trying to get the hatred out of your heart
  510. (16:40:35) (Pain) compared to most ive met, im a model citizen
  511. (16:40:50) (Pain) nothing you can say or do will get me to like defiler again
  512. (16:40:52) (the_accountant) but the guy who literally introduced you to everything you ever wanted
  513. (16:40:54) (Pain) not eve nGod himself could do that
  514. (16:41:07) (the_accountant) and you won't give that guy another chance
  515. (16:41:10) (the_accountant) thats confusing to me man
  516. (16:41:16) (Pain) i tried
  517. (16:41:24) (Pain) i came to him with an olive branch multiple times
  518. (16:41:28) (Pain) and he tried to hold something over my head
  519. (16:41:34) (Pain) i get violent when that happens
  520. (16:41:37) (the_accountant) maybe you held something over his as well
  521. (16:41:41) (Pain) and everything you've seen is a direct result of that
  522. (16:41:44) (the_accountant) maybe he does too
  523. (16:41:44) (Pain) though indirection
  524. (16:42:14) (Pain) so where do we go from here then
  525. (16:42:14) (the_accountant) i used to hang out on zerosec i am syn4pse's old friend
  526. (16:42:16) (Pain) cuz im nto talking to him
  527. (16:42:25) (Pain) he has nothing i want
  528. (16:42:27) (the_accountant) my thing is this
  529. (16:42:30) (Pain) ive been watching
  530. (16:42:37) (the_accountant) i've got that guy in my corner, and he's brilliant right now
  531. (16:42:41) (the_accountant) he's shut his mouth, hes not doing anything wrong
  532. (16:42:45) (the_accountant) he's developing
  533. (16:42:47) (Pain) ive noticed
  534. (16:42:53) (the_accountant) he's helped me with my all seeing eye
  535. (16:42:53) (Pain) and i have been as well
  536. (16:42:56) (the_accountant) it was his idea
  537. (16:43:07) (the_accountant) way before it was a group project
  538. (16:43:17) (the_accountant) i took it and ran with it long ago
  539. (16:43:44) (Pain) this just leaves one question
  540. (16:43:48) (Pain) who are you then
  541. (16:43:51) (Pain) other than yog
  542. (16:44:02) (Pain) idc about you and decoded, i barely know him
  543. (16:44:08) (Pain) who are YOU
  544. (16:44:17) (the_accountant) yog?
  545. (16:44:19) (the_accountant) you still have me wrong
  546. (16:44:26) (the_accountant) and you probably won't guess who i am at all
  547. (16:44:38) (the_accountant) ill give you 4 letters and thats it
  548. (16:44:41) (the_accountant) h0n0
  549. (16:44:51) (the_accountant) don't guess who i am
  550. (16:44:56) (Pain) you're not pipacs
  551. (16:44:58) (the_accountant) nope
  552. (16:45:02) (Pain) pipacs knows more baout defiler than anyone
  553. (16:45:10) (the_accountant) no he doesn't
  554. (16:45:11) (Pain) until i showed hi mthe light
  555. (16:45:12) (the_accountant) i know pipacs
  556. (16:45:18) (Pain) not the real pipacs
  557. (16:45:35) (Pain) it would be a wet dream to meet that guy
  558. (16:45:37) (Pain) tbqfh
  559. (16:45:44) (the_accountant) and if you followed sAv that guy never had any input on anything, he came into our area with his ears wet lol
  560. (16:46:14) (the_accountant) im one of the only people zmda feared
  561. (16:46:22) (the_accountant) can you say that about pipacs
  562. (16:46:46) (the_accountant) he looked up to yokai
  563. (16:46:48) (the_accountant) he only feared 1
  564. (16:47:30) (Pain) sAv is fubar
  565. (16:47:34) (Pain) savior
  566. (16:47:35) (the_accountant) sAv couldnt even step through gdb
  567. (16:47:35) (Pain) to be exact
  568. (16:48:01) (the_accountant) sAv barely had a grasp on the basics of introductory to asm last i talked to him, and the only info he knew was what abdilo was passing down to him
  569. (16:48:12) (the_accountant) and didn't defiler let both you and sAv in lol
  570. (16:48:17) (Pain) abdilo is who im looking for
  571. (16:48:26) (the_accountant) that won't happen
  572. (16:48:31) (the_accountant) rip, sorry
  573. (16:48:37) (the_accountant) defiler did something
  574. (16:48:46) (Pain) while that woundt spurise me
  575. (16:48:49) (Pain) wouldnt
  576. (16:49:03) (the_accountant) abdilo snitched him out on an alias he was using
  577. (16:49:19) (the_accountant) so defiler contacted a few aus snitches he knew that are hackers
  578. (16:49:31) (the_accountant) gave the pics of him holding a lot of meth
  579. (16:49:35) (the_accountant) digital scales
  580. (16:49:52) (the_accountant) and AFP found out he had packs shipping to his house directly
  581. (16:50:04) (the_accountant) through the black market, thats where abdilo got all his drugs
  582. (16:50:05) (Pain) when was this?
  583. (16:50:23) (the_accountant) right before defiler left last i think
  584. (16:50:28) (the_accountant) mid supernets era
  585. (16:50:56) (the_accountant) a little after he changed his nick to uh
  586. (16:50:57) (Pain) that would explain a few things
  587. (16:51:05) (the_accountant) M something
  588. (16:51:41) (the_accountant) abdilo posted pastebins
  589. (16:51:47) (the_accountant) that got acid, civil, dwaan and a lot of people in trouble
  590. (16:52:25) (Pain) hmm
  591. (16:52:32) (Pain) so where is defiler now
  592. (16:52:38) (Pain) and who is 'us'
  593. (16:52:39) (the_accountant) his priv server, he doesnt come out
  594. (16:52:48) (the_accountant) we created a new platform
  595. (16:52:54) (the_accountant) its similar to telegram
  596. (16:53:04) (the_accountant) much more secure and is not going to be released
  597. (16:53:14) (the_accountant) we both run the all seeing eye and there are a few more of us, such as MLT etc
  598. (16:53:37) (the_accountant) KMS is there
  599. (16:53:46) (the_accountant) theres a lot of people you would shit if you saw it
  600. (16:53:46) (Pain) kms is in prison
  601. (16:53:48) (the_accountant) zeekill is there
  602. (16:53:48) (the_accountant) no
  603. (16:53:49) (the_accountant) hes not
  604. (16:53:50) (the_accountant) he got out
  605. (16:54:00) (the_accountant) lol theres a lot of people you think are in prison or still in trouble
  606. (16:54:01) (the_accountant) they arent
  607. (16:54:03) (Pain) i know someone that wants zeekills head
  608. (16:54:05) (the_accountant) kms got out of prison 3 years ago
  609. (16:54:10) (the_accountant) or 2 years
  610. (16:54:16) (the_accountant) he got out like 6 months after all that shit
  611. (16:54:17) (the_accountant) i know that
  612. (16:54:32) (Pain) they have some skill, but not enough to do anything
  613. (16:54:38) (the_accountant) he was back on discord on NTTRITON's server
  614. (16:54:39) (Pain) he wil lfind him
  615. (16:54:43) (Pain) i can assure you of that
  616. (16:54:49) (the_accountant) eh man you know the old them
  617. (16:54:54) (the_accountant) everyone has calmed down and read books
  618. (16:54:58) (the_accountant) everyone grows up
  619. (16:55:02) (the_accountant) not everyone stays a skid forever
  620. (16:55:03) (Pain) comes with age
  621. (16:55:09) (Pain) some later than others
  622. (16:55:15) (the_accountant) case and point defiler
  623. (16:55:20) (the_accountant) that guy is like 30 years old and acted like a fucking child
  624. (16:55:25) (the_accountant) for how long???
  625. (16:55:27) (Pain) yes im aware
  626. (16:55:30) (Pain) and the xanax didnt help him
  627. (16:55:31) (the_accountant) now i can barely get him to chat
  628. (16:55:40) (Pain) and neither did sushi
  629. (16:55:43) (the_accountant) hes always 'busy' 'working'
  630. (16:55:48) (the_accountant) sushi destroyed him
  631. (16:55:51) (the_accountant) thats why hes taken a vow of silence
  632. (16:55:54) (Pain) im aware
  633. (16:55:59) (Pain) something fubar took advantage of
  634. (16:56:02) (Pain) lulz were had
  635. (16:56:11) (the_accountant) tahts why shit got released
  636. (16:56:15) (the_accountant) fubar and zmda
  637. (16:56:20) (the_accountant) fubar would come back and tell defiler
  638. (16:56:22) (the_accountant) what zmda told him
  639. (16:56:23) (Pain) he didnt know, and i still dont think he does know
  640. (16:56:25) (Pain) unless yo utel lhim
  641. (16:56:41) (the_accountant) it's not important at this point
  642. (16:56:41) (Pain) the only perso nwho knew was southern
  643. (16:56:48) (Pain) and that was intentional
  644. (16:57:04) (the_accountant) all of that shit is over and done, none of those people are going to get back together
  645. (16:57:10) (the_accountant) all those bridges are burned and collapsed
  646. (16:57:13) (the_accountant) unbuildable
  647. (16:57:19) (Pain) and them some
  648. (16:57:20) (Pain) then
  649. (16:57:26) (Pain) lol
  650. (16:57:48) (the_accountant) and i found out that guys problem
  651. (16:58:10) (the_accountant) the only info he ever knew was what people told him and he was a sponge in that aspect, everything anyone ever said he could retain it. he never read books or learned anything on networking
  652. (16:58:18) (the_accountant) all he had to do was read a few books to put the puzzle together
  653. (16:58:34) (Pain) that was my problem
  654. (16:58:38) (the_accountant) defiler is a PIECE OF SHIT but that guys learning curve makes my nuts shrivel up into my stomach
  655. (16:58:39) (Pain) and zmda fixed that quickly
  656. (16:58:52) (the_accountant) and the fact that he doesnt use it
  657. (16:58:55) (Pain) i learned more about sysinternals in a month than i knew about in 10 years
  658. (16:58:58) (the_accountant) it takes me forever to learn shit
  659. (16:59:02) (the_accountant) that guy hears something and latches onto it.
  660. (16:59:06) (the_accountant) PISSES ME OFF BRO
  661. (16:59:12) (Pain) im the same way
  662. (16:59:15) (Pain) lol
  663. (16:59:21) (Pain) me and him are a lot alike
  664. (16:59:25) (Pain) he was my student at one time
  665. (16:59:27) (the_accountant) pain its not for no reason that i have you in pm
  666. (16:59:30) (Pain) whether you know it or not
  667. (16:59:32) (the_accountant) i kind of wanted you to pm me
  668. (16:59:38) (the_accountant) i enticed you with not knowing who i am
  669. (16:59:45) (the_accountant) defiler told me to come talk to you
  670. (16:59:50) (the_accountant) to see if there was anything to salvage
  671. (16:59:51) (Pain) you inticed me with knowing something only 5 people know
  672. (16:59:54) (Pain) enticed*
  673. (17:00:11) (Pain) and i know for certain you're not one of those five
  674. (17:00:13) (the_accountant) right now im half assed talking through him for him
  675. (17:00:21) (the_accountant) hes trying ot make ammends but im finding out quickly that he has seriously
  676. (17:00:22) (the_accountant) fucked
  677. (17:00:22) (the_accountant) people
  678. (17:00:23) (the_accountant) over
  679. (17:00:31) (Pain) you have no idea
  680. (17:00:31) (the_accountant) i mean ive never met someone so HATED in my entire life
  681. (17:00:36) (the_accountant) moreso than storm
  682. (17:00:39) (the_accountant) which is amazing by any standard
  683. (17:00:48) (Pain) if i had a year, i couldnt even go itno it all
  684. (17:00:50) (Pain) im that serious
  685. (17:00:52) (Pain) you have no idea
  686. (17:00:53) (the_accountant) haha
  687. (17:01:12) (Pain) mending fences with defiler isnt at the top of my list
  688. (17:01:24) (Pain) but you've painted me curious
  689. (17:01:52) (the_accountant) well he couldnt come out on his own because he said hes so hated that if he even whispers who he is in pm to someone
  690. (17:01:54) (Pain) that i do admit
  691. (17:01:57) (the_accountant) hes so paranoid people will flare out
  692. (17:02:05) (the_accountant) and after speaking with some, i know they will flare out
  693. (17:02:07) (Pain) if he came to me, it wouldnt end well
  694. (17:02:09) (Pain) he knows this
  695. (17:02:26) (the_accountant) he doesnt want to be outted so im speaking for him to a few people he wnated back in his life
  696. (17:02:34) (Pain) he knows who my exceedingly long list of contacts are
  697. (17:02:39) (the_accountant) there are some people who never really burned him that badly that he fucked over but felt bad about it
  698. (17:03:03) (the_accountant) this guy turned a fucking fly into an elephant at every turn
  699. (17:03:14) (Pain) that you are right about
  700. (17:03:19) (Pain) more than you know
  701. (17:03:26) (Pain) theres tact
  702. (17:03:29) (Pain) then theres defiler
  703. (17:03:47) (the_accountant) look listen to this, i was talking to someone on criten who only kick banned him from a channel
  704. (17:03:53) (Pain) though if i must admit one thing
  705. (17:03:54) (the_accountant) he rm'd that guys entire machine and perm ddos'd him for 3 months
  706. (17:03:58) (Pain) almost with a gun to my head
  707. (17:04:00) (the_accountant) 3 fucking months
  708. (17:04:01) (Pain) but he did live up to his name
  709. (17:04:25) (Pain) and that has a given respect
  710. (17:04:31) (Pain) that im almost forced to abide by
  711. (17:04:35) (Pain) i taught him well
  712. (17:04:48) (the_accountant) he learned a lot of socialing and 'faking it till you make it' from you
  713. (17:04:51) (the_accountant) he learned chat patterns from you
  714. (17:04:52) (the_accountant) lol
  715. (17:04:58) (Pain) spot on sir
  716. (17:04:59) (the_accountant) how to talk and not know EVERYTHING but seem like you do
  717. (17:05:00) (Pain) spot on.
  718. (17:05:10) (Pain) which is why i dont dothat anymore
  719. (17:05:12) (Pain) cuz i actually know it now
  720. (17:05:18) (the_accountant) thats what made defiler so horrible
  721. (17:05:21) (the_accountant) he wasnt as good at that shit as you were
  722. (17:05:27) (Pain) he took that aspect of my character and RAN with it
  723. (17:05:29) (the_accountant) he would rant on too much about shit he didnt fully have a grasp on
  724. (17:05:35) (the_accountant) and that made him the biggest idiot hacker in the world
  725. (17:05:42) (Pain) his problem was trying to go into depth with it
  726. (17:05:47) (the_accountant) yes
  727. (17:05:48) (Pain) something i didnt do
  728. (17:05:55) (the_accountant) he actually had some of it right
  729. (17:05:57) (the_accountant) the depth
  730. (17:05:58) (Pain) im glad you've picked up on this
  731. (17:06:05) (Pain) its rare people do
  732. (17:06:08) (the_accountant) but a lot of things he would say
  733. (17:06:09) (Pain) no one has me pegged
  734. (17:06:10) (the_accountant) you're like wait hold on
  735. (17:06:11) (Pain) but you're close
  736. (17:06:16) (the_accountant) lol
  737. (17:06:25) (the_accountant) you just sit there and think "thats not right"
  738. (17:06:26) (Pain) the closest anyones came since Jester
  739. (17:06:33) (the_accountant) "shutup defiler before you make yourself look more like a dumbfuck'
  740. (17:06:38) (the_accountant) literally right after he hacked the howtohack server
  741. (17:06:42) (the_accountant) he destroyed his name
  742. (17:06:44) (the_accountant) AGAIN
  743. (17:06:48) (the_accountant) by sounding dumb
  744. (17:06:52) (Pain) i ran 'int' into the ground
  745. (17:06:54) (the_accountant) trying to make the attack he used sound even better
  746. (17:06:59) (Pain) i pile drived that fucking nick
  747. (17:07:01) (Pain) into the ground
  748. (17:07:07) (the_accountant) haha
  749. (17:07:17) (the_accountant) to be fair i pile drived one of his names down too
  750. (17:07:21) (the_accountant) i cant say who i am cause i dont want him knowing
  751. (17:07:22) (Pain) i didnt only show people it was defiler
  752. (17:07:27) (Pain) i showed them how little he actually knew
  753. (17:07:38) (the_accountant) he knows one of my nicks but he doesnt know that i destroyed his internet life once upon a time
  754. (17:07:38) (the_accountant) lol
  755. (17:07:42) (Pain) this is why i have my name
  756. (17:08:15) (Pain) i will humor you though
  757. (17:08:19) (Pain) ill speak with him
  758. (17:08:37) (Pain) but i want you to know full on and well
  759. (17:08:41) (Pain) its not goign to go the way you think
  760. (17:08:51) (Pain) there are things hes done that are unabsolvable
  761. (17:09:05) (the_accountant) i think he's just trying to apologize right now, he's staying in hiding until he knows people will simmer on the fact that he's chilling and doesn't want to be outted, he's just developing and anyone on his team is going to profit moreso than take a loss at this point
  762. (17:09:25) (Pain) now you're trying to hang something over my head
  763. (17:09:30) (the_accountant) no im not
  764. (17:09:41) (the_accountant) i am trying to leave you with a little time
  765. (17:09:46) (the_accountant) so you 2 dont get hot headed at each other
  766. (17:09:49) (the_accountant) and blow up
  767. (17:09:55) (the_accountant) its the first day you had this guy on your mind again
  768. (17:09:57) (the_accountant) you are liable to pop
  769. (17:10:08) (Pain) he released a private, and extremely versatile rootkit
  770. (17:10:13) (the_accountant) i know what he did
  771. (17:10:13) (Pain) the fuck do you want me to do
  772. (17:10:20) (the_accountant) i know how stupid that was
  773. (17:10:23) (Pain) btw, thats not the full kit
  774. (17:10:25) (Pain) i have it all
  775. (17:10:29) (the_accountant) he finished it
  776. (17:10:31) (the_accountant) thats not the point
  777. (17:10:34) (Pain) ive been working on it secretly
  778. (17:10:45) (the_accountant) lol he finished it, it only needed updated offsets
  779. (17:10:54) (the_accountant) the pt_regs
  780. (17:10:57) (Pain) lol
  781. (17:10:59) (the_accountant) sys_clone was out of date
  782. (17:11:01) (the_accountant) thats it
  783. (17:11:10) (Pain) pt_regs was the problem zmda couldnt pin down
  784. (17:11:14) (Pain) i think he just left it alone
  785. (17:11:17) (the_accountant) he fixed that
  786. (17:11:22) (the_accountant) cause zmda told him what was wrong with it
  787. (17:11:25) (Pain) he hadnt touched that in several years before he gave it to me
  788. (17:11:30) (the_accountant) he found a fix
  789. (17:11:31) (Pain) he wrote another one
  790. (17:11:33) (Pain) the one i have
  791. (17:11:41) (Pain) just so no one would have his kit again
  792. (17:11:45) (the_accountant) i see
  793. (17:11:54) (the_accountant) he had several revisions and the one he released
  794. (17:11:57) (the_accountant) much info was deleted
  795. (17:12:00) (Pain) defiler released the equiv of a module for that kit
  796. (17:12:04) (Pain) though its not a module
  797. (17:12:06) (Pain) its more like the core
  798. (17:12:10) (the_accountant) that was the core
  799. (17:12:16) (Pain) i have the modules for it
  800. (17:12:19) (the_accountant) he does too
  801. (17:12:20) (Pain) no one else does
  802. (17:12:23) (the_accountant) he didnt release the entire kit
  803. (17:12:31) (Pain) he would have been shot if he did
  804. (17:12:31) (the_accountant) he broke it and left so much out on purpose
  805. (17:12:55) (Pain) zmda wasnt just hot man
  806. (17:12:58) (Pain) he was the fucking sun
  807. (17:13:00) (Pain) over that
  808. (17:13:01) (the_accountant) he knows this man he understood that importance he just wanted to slightly burn zmda for laughing and making everything seem worse about xt
  809. (17:13:13) (Pain) the other brandon
  810. (17:13:14) (Pain) lol
  811. (17:13:16) (the_accountant) yes
  812. (17:13:20) (Pain) hes fallen so off the path its not funny
  813. (17:13:22) (the_accountant) xt made sushi suck his dick
  814. (17:13:23) (Pain) i dont eve nfuck with xt anymore
  815. (17:13:32) (Pain) the story i wasd told
  816. (17:13:33) (the_accountant) while defiler was with her
  817. (17:13:36) (Pain) was sushi was with xt before defiler
  818. (17:13:40) (the_accountant) yes
  819. (17:13:43) (the_accountant) she went back
  820. (17:13:52) (Pain) poor xt
  821. (17:13:59) (the_accountant) after going to live with defiler, went over there and hung out with xt for a day
  822. (17:14:03) (Pain) i dint sday that..
  823. (17:14:16) (Pain) but poor xt
  824. (17:14:18) (the_accountant) she sucked his dick and
  825. (17:14:25) (the_accountant) zmda ragged defiler as soon as he got online
  826. (17:14:29) (the_accountant) about it
  827. (17:14:42) (Pain) 3 months after she left
  828. (17:14:45) (Pain) fubar/maze joined
  829. (17:14:48) (Pain) and changed his nick to her
  830. (17:14:51) (Pain) and socialed him in PM
  831. (17:14:53) (Pain) he was crying
  832. (17:14:56) (Pain) over losing her
  833. (17:14:58) (Pain) again lulz were had
  834. (17:14:58) (the_accountant) hahahhahahahhahaha i saw that
  835. (17:15:04) (Pain) but we didnt know the extent of the damage she had done
  836. (17:15:20) (the_accountant) but yea its the internet and you guys had no idea of what happened
  837. (17:15:22) (the_accountant) she had 3 abortions on defiler
  838. (17:15:24) (Pain) looking back on it, i shouldnt have been involved
  839. (17:15:28) (Pain) but my rage was driving me
  840. (17:15:30) (Pain) i know
  841. (17:15:41) (the_accountant) so tell me
  842. (17:15:43) (the_accountant) what would you do
  843. (17:15:55) (the_accountant) i thought about it a million times in my head
  844. (17:16:03) (the_accountant) and a lot of times i circle back to what defiler did
  845. (17:16:13) (Pain) what would i do if i was dfeiler and someone socialed me being my cunt of an ex?
  846. (17:16:18) (the_accountant) no
  847. (17:16:38) (the_accountant) if you were defiler, you fell in love with this girl, she was pregnant and went back to xt's town and sucked his dick and came back
  848. (17:16:48) (the_accountant) you get online and zmda is making fun of you along with everyone else
  849. (17:16:49) (Pain) i had a gf like that lol
  850. (17:16:52) (Pain) but i was 17
  851. (17:16:53) (the_accountant) you're falling apart
  852. (17:16:57) (the_accountant) what would you do
  853. (17:17:00) (the_accountant) do you even know?
  854. (17:17:03) (the_accountant) i don't.
  855. (17:17:11) (Pain) a lot of variables there
  856. (17:17:30) (Pain) releasing his kit though
  857. (17:17:33) (the_accountant) defiler made the mistake though
  858. (17:17:34) (Pain) you just dont do that
  859. (17:17:41) (the_accountant) he mixed real life with hacking
  860. (17:17:42) (the_accountant) we dont do that
  861. (17:18:00) (Pain) i let him out from under my wing
  862. (17:18:05) (Pain) before he could learn that
  863. (17:18:09) (Pain) you just dont do that man
  864. (17:18:17) (Pain) an unwritten rule in hacking
  865. (17:18:54) (the_accountant) that guy would have fallen in love with anything that kept making him feel good daily man, that guy is LONELY
  866. (17:19:00) (the_accountant) and it's his own fault lol
  867. (17:19:05) (Pain) yes i know
  868. (17:19:26) (the_accountant) we've all seen the defiler rants on irc
  869. (17:19:30) (the_accountant) they go for days
  870. (17:19:33) (the_accountant) same subject
  871. (17:19:37) (Pain) well documented in the logging bots
  872. (17:19:44) (Pain) welllllllll documented
  873. (17:19:47) (the_accountant) haha
  874. (17:19:52) (the_accountant) its funny because
  875. (17:19:58) (Pain) i google him and ev0 sometimes
  876. (17:19:58) (the_accountant) if you sift through it, theres real hackery in it
  877. (17:20:01) (Pain) if i want a laugh
  878. (17:20:01) (the_accountant) then theres WTF IS THIS
  879. (17:21:02) (the_accountant) seriously
  880. (17:21:06) (the_accountant) look at what this guy did
  881. (17:21:09) (the_accountant) https://pastebin.com/PRNAn29P
  882. (17:21:15) (the_accountant) to a grip of hackers man
  883. (17:21:35) (Pain) predicament (lol@40.84.196.35.bc.googleusercontent.com)
  884. (17:21:38) (the_accountant) im not sure if you know sipa and ep0ch
  885. (17:21:39) (Pain) im so glad i rm'd that box
  886. (17:21:52) (the_accountant) i rm'd the server that box was on lol
  887. (17:22:08) (the_accountant) i decrypted their ip's
  888. (17:22:12) (the_accountant) its dressed up a bit
  889. (17:22:33) (the_accountant) but defiler actually got in
  890. (17:22:38) (the_accountant) to give me access
  891. (17:22:59) (Pain) ill read that later
  892. (17:23:01) (the_accountant) thats him chating to those guys
  893. (17:23:09) (Pain) i skimmed over it though
  894. (17:23:21) (Pain) i know OF them but i dont know them
  895. (17:23:26) (the_accountant) he wouldnt rm the box
  896. (17:23:26) (Pain) im on their ircd atm
  897. (17:23:30) (the_accountant) he had full access and wouldnt do anyhting with it
  898. (17:23:34) (Pain) irc.zempirians.com iirc
  899. (17:23:36) (the_accountant) you can ask them about it lol
  900. (17:23:37) (Pain) .com or .org
  901. (17:23:43) (the_accountant) yea i remember they changed names
  902. (17:23:47) (Pain) uberlame likes me i guess
  903. (17:23:55) (Pain) they've always been zemperians
  904. (17:24:01) (the_accountant) yea but they became blackcatz
  905. (17:24:01) (Pain) now its public info
  906. (17:24:37) (the_accountant) the main point of all of that is that, defiler really never was a complete idiot and could really hack
  907. (17:24:44) (the_accountant) he was just never fully taught about computers
  908. (17:24:46) (the_accountant) never filled in the blanks
  909. (17:24:51) (Pain) same
  910. (17:24:59) (Pain) zmda filled in a lot of those holes
  911. (17:25:01) (Pain) not all
  912. (17:25:03) (Pain) but a good bit
  913. (17:25:03) (the_accountant) and seeing him do that, almost made me cry
  914. (17:25:16) (the_accountant) well even with zmda, he was teaching defiler advanced shit and he was retaining it
  915. (17:25:22) (the_accountant) those logs you saw, defiler remembered all that man
  916. (17:25:37) (the_accountant) defiler had a 3 hour long chat with starfall
  917. (17:25:42) (Pain) i wish you were helping your case
  918. (17:25:54) (the_accountant) ?
  919. (17:25:54) (Pain) but as i said ill humor you and talk t ohim
  920. (17:26:06) (the_accountant) helping my case?
  921. (17:26:10) (the_accountant) lol what's my case
  922. (17:26:26) (Pain) its public info defiler repasted logs of chats hes had with zmda and a few others
  923. (17:26:31) (Pain) hes recitign some of that
  924. (17:26:45) (Pain) if he did lear nanything
  925. (17:26:49) (Pain) that was the starting point
  926. (17:27:07) (the_accountant) either way he recited it so much he remembered it
  927. (17:27:13) (the_accountant) i gave him some material to read and he's good now
  928. (17:27:22) (the_accountant) but enough about him, im done mending fixes for this guy
  929. (17:27:25) (the_accountant) thsi is a fucking headache
  930. (17:27:38) (the_accountant) i didnt know it would be this difficult
  931. (17:27:38) (the_accountant) lol
  932. (17:27:47) (Pain) i said i would talk to him
  933. (17:27:51) (Pain) but i offer zero guarentees
  934. (17:28:01) (Pain) but to put your mind at ease
  935. (17:28:03) (Pain) i wont get mad
  936. (17:28:11) (Pain) with that you have my word
  937. (17:28:34) (Pain) im not trying to cleverly draw him out
  938. (17:28:37) (Pain) by admiting that
  939. (17:28:40) (the_accountant) he wants to stay silent
  940. (17:28:46) (Pain) ive wanted to talk t ohim, but my rage blinded me
  941. (17:28:58) (the_accountant) he doesnt want anyone to know '* is back'
  942. (17:29:03) (Pain) if you hadnt provided this case, i wouldnt even humor the thought of it
  943. (17:29:06) (the_accountant) people will search high and low with flash lights
  944. (17:29:10) (the_accountant) if they find that out
  945. (17:29:29) (the_accountant) its not just you man you're the 4th person i've talked to
  946. (17:29:37) (the_accountant) it's getting tiresome
  947. (17:30:06) (Pain) as i said before
  948. (17:30:08) (the_accountant) i've even been accused of being him twice now
  949. (17:30:08) (Pain) if only you knew
  950. (17:30:15) (the_accountant) just for speaking on his behalf
  951. (17:30:16) (Pain) i was considering it
  952. (17:30:21) (the_accountant) because nobody believes he can have friends
  953. (17:30:23) (Pain) i admit the thought crossed my mind
  954. (17:30:54) (the_accountant) im not sure he has this much information
  955. (17:31:04) (Pain) ive been wondering how you got it
  956. (17:31:13) (Pain) but im able to deduce almsot any situation
  957. (17:31:25) (the_accountant) i lurk hard man
  958. (17:31:27) (Pain) i will figure it out
  959. (17:31:31) (Pain) and dont have to ask anyone
  960. (17:31:33) (the_accountant) look up h0no zine
  961. (17:31:48) (Pain) ive read every word of h0no
  962. (17:31:52) (Pain) i could almost recite it for you
  963. (17:32:02) (Pain) ive seen things people who've readt that stil ldont know
  964. (17:32:08) (Pain) i know who a lot of peopel are, jsut by zines
  965. (17:32:15) (Pain) logical deduction i call it
  966. (17:32:18) (Pain) but its obviious to me
  967. (17:32:22) (Pain) i can figure out who anyone is
  968. (17:32:45) (the_accountant) lol
  969. (17:32:51) (the_accountant) can you guess which one i am?
  970. (17:32:53) (the_accountant) zmda spoke of me
  971. (17:33:00) (the_accountant) he used to speak of how i used to be a joke
  972. (17:33:00) (Pain) have we met?
  973. (17:33:02) (the_accountant) and now how people fear me
  974. (17:33:14) (the_accountant) nah we never met
  975. (17:33:16) (the_accountant) not formally
  976. (17:33:21) (the_accountant) not with you knowing who i was
  977. (17:33:23) (Pain) then i could only guess
  978. (17:34:29) (Pain) no one knows about this conversation, as of yet
  979. (17:34:36) (Pain) ive thought about asking zmda, but hes not online atm
  980. (17:34:47) (Pain) (irl is annoying for him)
  981. (17:39:36) (the_accountant) i still think its funny though, everyone has so much hatred for him that he cant even get credit for any hacks hes done
  982. (17:40:05) (the_accountant) im not sure why that means so much to him
  983. (17:40:23) (the_accountant) he said ask luno what happened to iptorrents
  984. (17:40:32) (the_accountant) apparently luno was there
  985. (17:40:58) (Pain) im on iptorrents
  986. (17:41:02) (Pain) not on the irc though
  987. (17:41:14) (the_accountant) you'll get banned asking them
  988. (17:41:19) (Pain) i left that life
  989. (17:41:20) (the_accountant) i'd ask luno if he's around
  990. (17:41:22) (Pain) i know the admins of IPT
  991. (17:41:24) (Pain) long time friends
  992. (17:41:31) (the_accountant) i do too, and im not a big fan
  993. (17:41:33) (Pain) i used to be in that scene man
  994. (17:41:45) (Pain) but i left a long time ago
  995. (17:41:47) (the_accountant) micro$oft aka GM was ok but
  996. (17:41:53) (the_accountant) whats that one girl in iptorrents
  997. (17:41:56) (the_accountant) S something
  998. (17:41:58) (Pain) sugarb
  999. (17:42:00) (the_accountant) yes
  1000. (17:42:12) (Pain) ive known her for a decade now
  1001. (17:42:18) (the_accountant) hes the worst
  1002. (17:42:19) (Pain) maybe longer actually
  1003. (17:42:20) (the_accountant) shes*
  1004. (17:42:21) (Pain) hard to say
  1005. (17:42:27) (Pain) shes a kitten man
  1006. (17:42:29) (Pain) lol
  1007. (17:42:37) (Pain) i talk to her friend almost daily
  1008. (17:42:39) (Pain) square
  1009. (17:42:40) (the_accountant) she's the reason iptorrents got hit, and when i saw her acting like she was
  1010. (17:42:46) (the_accountant) i was just like wth
  1011. (17:42:54) (Pain) ill have to have a word with her
  1012. (17:42:59) (the_accountant) ask her about n0de9
  1013. (17:43:08) (Pain) just have to remember my scene nick
  1014. (17:43:10) (Pain) lol
  1015. (17:43:16) (Pain) that was about 5 years ago when i left
  1016. (17:43:27) (Pain) ive helped make a lot of sites
  1017. (17:43:28) (the_accountant) lol so this is what im being told
  1018. (17:43:34) (Pain) and have been banned because of people i know
  1019. (17:43:37) (the_accountant) apparently she made fun of defiler cause he offered them free voxility servers
  1020. (17:43:40) (the_accountant) he just wanted to help iptorrents
  1021. (17:43:48) (the_accountant) she posted the PM of him trying to help
  1022. (17:43:51) (the_accountant) that was the end of that
  1023. (17:43:59) (the_accountant) she made fun of it
  1024. (17:43:59) (Pain) DB9, IPT, TL, GFT, SCC
  1025. (17:44:01) (Pain) all my doing
  1026. (17:44:20) (the_accountant) haha yea i keep getting banned but i have so many different accounts
  1027. (17:44:25) (Pain) like i said, im a hidden hand i na lot of things that would suprise the shit out of you
  1028. (17:44:37) (the_accountant) nah i kind of have an idea
  1029. (17:44:55) (Pain) this is why i havent been raided
  1030. (17:44:57) (the_accountant) defiler basically wrote a small book about you and the opportunities you may have gotten from being brought onboard
  1031. (17:45:00) (Pain) im not at the scene of the crime
  1032. (17:45:22) (the_accountant) you surfaced
  1033. (17:45:27) (the_accountant) and thats something not many people get in life
  1034. (17:45:32) (the_accountant) you were blesesd
  1035. (17:45:35) (the_accountant) blessed*
  1036. (17:45:58) (the_accountant) the fact he knew you wanted to know more
  1037. (17:46:33) (the_accountant) apparently he saw in you exactly what he saw in himself
  1038. (17:46:38) (the_accountant) just with a little more idle time on your belt
  1039. (17:46:41) (the_accountant) in this community
  1040. (17:47:43) (Pain) there is one oppurtuunity i missed that still bugs me
  1041. (17:47:48) (Pain) and it has to do with the real ret
  1042. (17:47:54) (Pain) i broke an unspoken rule
  1043. (17:47:59) (Pain) one i didnt know of at the time
  1044. (17:48:14) (Pain) and it put me further away fro mthe one answer ive been wanting
  1045. (17:48:19) (Pain) it has nothing to do with hacking
  1046. (17:48:25) (Pain) it has everything to do with one singular person
  1047. (17:48:30) (Pain) everyone else are just speed bumps to me
  1048. (17:48:55) (the_accountant) which rule
  1049. (17:49:07) (Pain) those at the top of the food chain
  1050. (17:49:20) (the_accountant) do not brag?
  1051. (17:49:22) (Pain) do not want you to speak about what they've done
  1052. (17:49:25) (the_accountant) yes
  1053. (17:49:26) (Pain) in any capacity
  1054. (17:49:26) (the_accountant) lol
  1055. (17:49:30) (the_accountant) thats rule #1
  1056. (17:49:33) (the_accountant) thats a spoken rule
  1057. (17:49:34) (Pain) so if you've read el8 and h0no and zf0
  1058. (17:49:40) (Pain) and figured out who they are and what they've done
  1059. (17:49:42) (Pain) keep it to yourself
  1060. (17:50:06) (Pain) i basically singed my short at being at the top of the foodchain
  1061. (17:50:10) (Pain) just by saying one persons name
  1062. (17:50:15) (Pain) shot*
  1063. (17:50:21) (the_accountant) what name did you say
  1064. (17:50:21) (Pain) one.
  1065. (17:50:29) (Pain) a zf0 member turned AB
  1066. (17:50:39) (Pain) i was looking for someone he has corrispondance with at oen time
  1067. (17:50:44) (Pain) (idk hwo to spel lthat)
  1068. (17:50:46) (the_accountant) oh god
  1069. (17:50:53) (the_accountant) you went looking for someone specific
  1070. (17:50:56) (Pain) when i explained this to ret
  1071. (17:51:04) (Pain) not the zf0 turned AB
  1072. (17:51:07) (Pain) the guy he spoke to
  1073. (17:51:11) (Pain) that man was a mother fucking GENIUS
  1074. (17:51:19) (Pain) ive yet to meet another man like him
  1075. (17:51:21) (Pain) not the zf0 guiy
  1076. (17:51:21) (the_accountant) yes but you cant go to others contacts
  1077. (17:51:23) (Pain) the guy he talked to
  1078. (17:51:27) (the_accountant) yea his mentor
  1079. (17:51:29) (Pain) yea, i learned that
  1080. (17:51:31) (the_accountant) probably someone from the fucking govt
  1081. (17:51:31) (the_accountant) dude
  1082. (17:51:35) (the_accountant) these people are REAL
  1083. (17:51:35) (Pain) no
  1084. (17:51:40) (Pain) im aware
  1085. (17:51:51) (the_accountant) im saying these guys that are genius
  1086. (17:51:59) (the_accountant) a lot of them are in high positions of power
  1087. (17:52:04) (Pain) i know things i shouldnt know and cant talk abotu them with anyone
  1088. (17:52:08) (Pain) oh.
  1089. (17:52:12) (the_accountant) and use hackers to corporately adjust their situation
  1090. (17:52:14) (Pain) then im blackballed then
  1091. (17:52:16) (Pain) fuck singed
  1092. (17:52:18) (the_accountant) yes
  1093. (17:52:19) (Pain) im straight blackballed
  1094. (17:52:27) (Pain) goddamnit
  1095. (17:52:30) (the_accountant) better hope it wasnt a UN hacker man
  1096. (17:52:34) (Pain) i didnt realize the depth
  1097. (17:52:41) (Pain) eve nthen
  1098. (17:52:42) (the_accountant) if that was a united nations hacker
  1099. (17:52:50) (the_accountant) youll never surface further than you are
  1100. (17:53:03) (Pain) ive noticed ive been stone walled lately
  1101. (17:53:05) (Pain) im getting nowhere
  1102. (17:53:12) (the_accountant) you need to start doing things for yourself
  1103. (17:53:18) (the_accountant) show them you are working on shit
  1104. (17:53:20) (the_accountant) they will let you back in
  1105. (17:53:24) (the_accountant) but right now you seem like a fed to them
  1106. (17:53:28) (Pain) ive lost a massive amoutn of my respect and clout
  1107. (17:53:30) (Pain) by folding
  1108. (17:53:34) (Pain) under storms questioning
  1109. (17:53:39) (Pain) because i didnt want to throw someone under the bus
  1110. (17:53:43) (Pain) who threw me under it 2 months later
  1111. (17:53:54) (the_accountant) you still did right by you
  1112. (17:53:59) (the_accountant) in the end you need to forget everyone else
  1113. (17:54:03) (the_accountant) and know what you did
  1114. (17:54:06) (the_accountant) you took a higher road
  1115. (17:54:08) (Pain) i lost the respexct of a man ive admired since day one
  1116. (17:54:10) (Pain) fckd.
  1117. (17:54:10) (the_accountant) you were the better person
  1118. (17:54:13) (the_accountant) nobody else saw taht but you
  1119. (17:54:27) (the_accountant) and you're even better for it cause you're stronger for all of that happening
  1120. (17:54:37) (Pain) i wanted to rm storm
  1121. (17:54:39) (Pain) i really did
  1122. (17:54:45) (Pain) i had it all planned out
  1123. (17:54:47) (the_accountant) that guy gets rm'd more than he admits
  1124. (17:54:49) (Pain) then he fucking retired
  1125. (17:54:53) (the_accountant) i get pissed when he lies
  1126. (17:54:56) (the_accountant) about getting hcaked
  1127. (17:54:58) (the_accountant) minutes after being hacked
  1128. (17:55:05) (the_accountant) he will be reinstalling his machine and say LOOK BRO IM STILL CHATTING
  1129. (17:55:13) (the_accountant) and im like ... but your reinstalling your box i just rm'd right now
  1130. (17:55:35) (Pain) i didnt throw syn under the bus
  1131. (17:55:38) (Pain) now look at him
  1132. (17:55:44) (Pain) but he threw me under it
  1133. (17:55:48) (Pain) and look where i am
  1134. (17:56:00) (the_accountant) i havent seen or heard of syn forte or ayocaine
  1135. (17:56:01) (Pain) storm did it too, but i cant blame storm
  1136. (17:56:05) (Pain) he thinks hes more powerful than he is
  1137. (17:56:13) (the_accountant) they all still hang out with storm which i do not respect
  1138. (17:56:17) (the_accountant) they all hated storm with a passion
  1139. (17:56:19) (the_accountant) and joined his team
  1140. (17:56:23) (Pain) yep
  1141. (17:56:26) (the_accountant) cause no matter what storm fucks up
  1142. (17:56:27) (Pain) ambulance chasers
  1143. (17:56:29) (the_accountant) somehow he's always got his spot
  1144. (17:56:39) (Pain) they are lapping up his piss trail
  1145. (17:56:39) (the_accountant) might be a hated spot
  1146. (17:56:40) (Pain) as he goes
  1147. (17:56:41) (the_accountant) but it's his
  1148. (17:56:49) (Pain) and all i wanted to do was steal what storm had
  1149. (17:56:50) (the_accountant) he's so stupid too
  1150. (17:57:00) (Pain) but i failed
  1151. (17:57:05) (Pain) because of my mental state at the time
  1152. (17:57:08) (Pain) and like i said i folded
  1153. (17:57:14) (the_accountant) it happens to the best of us
  1154. (17:57:14) (Pain) i shouldnt have folded
  1155. (17:57:21) (Pain) i could have cut his head off in a heartbeat
  1156. (17:57:22) (the_accountant) just get ready for another hand
  1157. (17:57:25) (Pain) metaphorically ofc
  1158. (17:57:43) (the_accountant) but seroiusly if you want to get away from being blackballed
  1159. (17:57:47) (the_accountant) bring some input in
  1160. (17:57:49) (Pain) but i would have completely lost all resperct with fckd if i did that
  1161. (17:57:52) (the_accountant) towards something teh guys are talking bout
  1162. (17:57:54) (the_accountant) im serious
  1163. (17:58:00) (the_accountant) right now you're possible fed status
  1164. (17:58:13) (Pain) id rather them think im a fed then know what i know
  1165. (17:58:15) (the_accountant) you need to come up with some stuff of your own and bring it to them
  1166. (17:58:17) (Pain) i was serious abotu that 0day
  1167. (17:58:26) (Pain) it does exist
  1168. (17:58:30) (the_accountant) i beleive you
  1169. (17:58:39) (the_accountant) 0days pop up alllll the time
  1170. (17:58:44) (Pain) no one needs to knwo what i know
  1171. (17:58:48) (the_accountant) its always people who arent looking for it
  1172. (17:58:58) (Pain) i would destroy a sizable portion of the warez scene
  1173. (17:59:01) (Pain) in a paragraph
  1174. (17:59:03) (the_accountant) lmao
  1175. (17:59:09) (the_accountant) leverage
  1176. (17:59:10) (the_accountant) i like it
  1177. (17:59:15) (the_accountant) thats my kinda game
  1178. (17:59:24) (Pain) im a feds wet dream
  1179. (17:59:27) (Pain) but you wont get it out of me
  1180. (17:59:34) (Pain) i know how to deal with them
  1181. (17:59:41) (the_accountant) just dont say shit ask for lawyer
  1182. (17:59:41) (Pain) i know all their rules
  1183. (17:59:48) (the_accountant) be patient
  1184. (17:59:51) (the_accountant) their rules are only time
  1185. (17:59:56) (the_accountant) if they have nothing to book you on they cant
  1186. (17:59:59) (the_accountant) they can only hold you for 24 hours
  1187. (17:59:59) (Pain) and i got nothing but time
  1188. (18:00:01) (the_accountant) dont talk to them
  1189. (18:00:01) (the_accountant) done
  1190. (18:00:36) (the_accountant) i think you can ask if you are under arrest
  1191. (18:00:40) (the_accountant) and if they say no ask if you are free to leave
  1192. (18:00:44) (the_accountant) they will say technically yeah
  1193. (18:00:45) (the_accountant) you walk out
  1194. (18:00:58) (the_accountant) ive never been questioned honestly, i wouldnt know
  1195. (18:01:11) (Pain) i cant speak on how i know it
  1196. (18:01:15) (Pain) and it wouldnt help me if i did
  1197. (18:01:27) (the_accountant) cause of chrono?
  1198. (18:01:27) (Pain) but i know the twosentences cops dont want to hear
  1199. (18:01:39) (Pain) no
  1200. (18:01:51) (Pain) i wish to reserve my right to slience, and i request my lawyer be present for any further questioning
  1201. (18:01:58) (Pain) two sentences no cops wantto hear
  1202. (18:01:59) (the_accountant) oh of course
  1203. (18:02:08) (the_accountant) i wont even say that ill just say
  1204. (18:02:11) (the_accountant) im saying nothing wheres my lawyer
  1205. (18:02:12) (the_accountant) lol
  1206. (18:02:22) (the_accountant) i may even write it
  1207. (18:02:30) (Pain) lol yea
  1208. (18:03:09) (Pain) but you see i admit my mistakes
  1209. (18:03:11) (Pain) i realized i fucked up
  1210. (18:03:16) (Pain) seconds after it happened
  1211. (18:03:27) (Pain) im well aware just how blackballed i really am
  1212. (18:03:41) (Pain) and i can only imagien the lengths peopel are goign to do it too
  1213. (18:03:42) (the_accountant) its cool you just didnt know how deep the rabbit hole went
  1214. (18:03:46) (the_accountant) now you just need to regain a little trust
  1215. (18:03:50) (the_accountant) or build some if you never even hav
  1216. (18:04:05) (Pain) it wont be done here
  1217. (18:04:11) (Pain) i dont trust anyone here
  1218. (18:04:14) (Pain) they're cool and all
  1219. (18:04:17) (the_accountant) no privately though
  1220. (18:04:19) (Pain) but ive been keepign an eye o na select few
  1221. (18:04:25) (the_accountant) not here, i mean you dont hang out in any elder groups?
  1222. (18:04:31) (the_accountant) you said you were still on the discord
  1223. (18:04:32) (Pain) efnet
  1224. (18:04:34) (Pain) lol
  1225. (18:04:47) (Pain) i wont say anything on discord lol
  1226. (18:04:50) (Pain) but i can get them elsewhere
  1227. (18:04:53) (the_accountant) efnet isnt really the elder groups you gotta go above yokai's head
  1228. (18:05:02) (Pain) peanuter isnt someone i would expect to be able to show me the light
  1229. (18:05:06) (the_accountant) the elders are there but you wont get words out of them
  1230. (18:05:10) (the_accountant) unless someone else allows it
  1231. (18:05:11) (Pain) he can show me what i want to know
  1232. (18:05:13) (Pain) but not the light
  1233. (18:05:34) (the_accountant) some things i dont understand about peanut3r
  1234. (18:05:39) (Pain) ive already requested his pressence
  1235. (18:05:39) (the_accountant) i sometimes wonder
  1236. (18:05:42) (the_accountant) dont repeat this
  1237. (18:05:45) (the_accountant) i love the guy
  1238. (18:05:48) (the_accountant) but i fucking wonder man
  1239. (18:05:51) (the_accountant) lol
  1240. (18:05:55) (Pain) you're not alone
  1241. (18:06:03) (Pain) but theres one reason why i stil ltlak to him
  1242. (18:06:06) (the_accountant) i feel like he's got a boss irl that feeds him real nigga shit
  1243. (18:06:10) (the_accountant) cause sometimes
  1244. (18:06:11) (the_accountant) idk man
  1245. (18:06:14) (Pain) darpa has one rule they enforce with an iron fist
  1246. (18:06:15) (the_accountant) idk ill leave it there
  1247. (18:06:22) (Pain) if you get caught for anything ,even if its not for darpa
  1248. (18:06:24) (Pain) you're out
  1249. (18:06:26) (the_accountant) yea
  1250. (18:06:26) (Pain) period.
  1251. (18:06:29) (the_accountant) thats why acid is out
  1252. (18:06:35) (the_accountant) i just left
  1253. (18:06:37) (Pain) precisely
  1254. (18:06:38) (the_accountant) i quit showing up
  1255. (18:06:39) (the_accountant) lol
  1256. (18:06:44) (the_accountant) i didnt find value in it
  1257. (18:06:46) (Pain) now you got me wondering
  1258. (18:06:57) (Pain) but its an ambigious wonder
  1259. (18:07:16) (the_accountant) you won't guess who i am, itsa mystery even to groups who i tell everything about the group to
  1260. (18:07:20) (the_accountant) none of them can even figure out who i am
  1261. (18:07:32) (the_accountant) they think im god and have some inside scoop on every elite group in the world
  1262. (18:07:41) (the_accountant) not really but like, its mysterious as fuck
  1263. (18:07:47) (the_accountant) ill admit, it is...
  1264. (18:07:48) (Pain) we havent met until now, and you come on defilers behalf
  1265. (18:07:55) (Pain) only raises more questions
  1266. (18:08:01) (the_accountant) yea but i was here before that
  1267. (18:08:06) (the_accountant) you saw me here a month ago or so
  1268. (18:08:15) (the_accountant) that wasnt defiler's behalf
  1269. (18:08:20) (Pain) no
  1270. (18:08:23) (Pain) it was on decodeds
  1271. (18:08:28) (the_accountant) xmpp.land
  1272. (18:08:30) (Pain) you're Yog-Sotho
  1273. (18:08:32) (the_accountant) not irc.xmpp.land
  1274. (18:08:35) (the_accountant) no im not lol
  1275. (18:08:40) (the_accountant) i dont use twitter man
  1276. (18:08:54) (Pain) you know thigns only he could surmise
  1277. (18:08:55) (the_accountant) i know who yog is he's a moron
  1278. (18:09:04) (the_accountant) he got raped for bitcoin
  1279. (18:09:04) (Pain) at least we agree on that
  1280. (18:09:05) (the_accountant) hes a moron
  1281. (18:09:09) (Pain) he was dead wrong on doxing decoded
  1282. (18:09:10) (the_accountant) and now he wont admit it
  1283. (18:09:11) (the_accountant) by dale
  1284. (18:09:11) (the_accountant) lol
  1285. (18:09:13) (the_accountant) dale got his coin
  1286. (18:09:15) (Pain) which is still find hilarious
  1287. (18:09:17) (Pain) -s
  1288. (18:09:22) (the_accountant) dale i think is uh
  1289. (18:09:25) (the_accountant) blackhole or whoever
  1290. (18:09:29) (Pain) blackout
  1291. (18:09:31) (the_accountant) i cant remember, he said ht was autistic
  1292. (18:09:32) (the_accountant) yea thats it
  1293. (18:09:39) (the_accountant) dale stole coin from yog-sotho
  1294. (18:09:45) (the_accountant) said he would hack something for yog
  1295. (18:09:46) (Pain) that makes more sense than what yog was on about
  1296. (18:09:57) (the_accountant) dale quit responding
  1297. (18:09:59) (the_accountant) yog cried to me
  1298. (18:10:00) (the_accountant) and everyone else
  1299. (18:10:05) (the_accountant) about his coin
  1300. (18:10:07) (the_accountant) now he denies the entire event
  1301. (18:10:12) (the_accountant) he tried to dox dale for 2 weeks
  1302. (18:10:13) (the_accountant) straight
  1303. (18:10:17) (the_accountant) after coming up short on every corner
  1304. (18:10:21) (the_accountant) when dale is easy as fuck to do
  1305. (18:10:21) (the_accountant) x
  1306. (18:10:23) (Pain) yep
  1307. (18:10:25) (Pain) he showed me
  1308. (18:10:28) (Pain) everyhting he had on him
  1309. (18:10:37) (the_accountant) am i yog? no he wouldnt admit to this
  1310. (18:10:41) (the_accountant) ever
  1311. (18:10:53) (Pain) you know more than you should
  1312. (18:10:55) (the_accountant) yog will tell you diff story
  1313. (18:11:00) (Pain) its intriguing
  1314. (18:11:08) (the_accountant) he will tell you he only uses coin for drugs
  1315. (18:11:10) (the_accountant) on black market
  1316. (18:11:16) (the_accountant) if you ask him about him getting jacked for coin
  1317. (18:11:17) (the_accountant) lol
  1318. (18:11:25) (the_accountant) hes a bald-headed bitch
  1319. (18:11:32) (Pain) i got the story from decodeds end
  1320. (18:11:39) (Pain) and what him and zodiac did to him
  1321. (18:11:41) (Pain) as a result
  1322. (18:11:48) (Pain) but now i see that asumption was wrong
  1323. (18:11:53) (the_accountant) i only heard yog crying about the coin
  1324. (18:11:54) (the_accountant) thast all i know
  1325. (18:11:59) (the_accountant) he made a site about dale
  1326. (18:12:07) (the_accountant) started to make content about his dox but had incorrect details
  1327. (18:12:18) (the_accountant) i have no idea what happened after that
  1328. (18:12:29) (the_accountant) at that point it was twitter wars and i dont get into that shit
  1329. (18:12:35) (Pain) hes still at it afaik
  1330. (18:12:38) (the_accountant) i am the all seeing eye
  1331. (18:12:39) (the_accountant) lol
  1332. (18:12:40) (Pain) yea me either
  1333. (18:12:47) (Pain) you took that title from me
  1334. (18:12:51) (Pain) i would like that back.
  1335. (18:12:55) (the_accountant) lol
  1336. (18:13:09) (Pain) i wanted to build what peanuter has
  1337. (18:13:16) (Pain) its too hard to keep tabs on the internet anymore
  1338. (18:13:21) (Pain) so many whitehats doing so much shit
  1339. (18:13:25) (Pain) red teams, blue teams
  1340. (18:13:26) (Pain) devops
  1341. (18:13:28) (the_accountant) it's not cheap
  1342. (18:13:29) (Pain) it all exploded
  1343. (18:13:30) (the_accountant) doing what im doing
  1344. (18:13:33) (the_accountant) not cheap at ALL
  1345. (18:13:35) (the_accountant) the storage
  1346. (18:13:35) (the_accountant) OMG
  1347. (18:13:38) (Pain) i cant keep tabs on all of it anymore
  1348. (18:13:42) (the_accountant) bro
  1349. (18:13:45) (Pain) i need something like that
  1350. (18:13:45) (the_accountant) im logging EVERYTHING
  1351. (18:13:58) (the_accountant) allllll that storage bro
  1352. (18:14:04) (the_accountant) and the power it takes to access all that shit
  1353. (18:14:09) (the_accountant) just imagine how much im paying
  1354. (18:14:11) (Pain) ive given out bits and pieces of ideas related to the subject to highly select people
  1355. (18:14:15) (the_accountant) and how much peanut3r is paying after a year or 2 of this shit
  1356. (18:14:22) (the_accountant) hes doubled his cost by now
  1357. (18:14:23) (Pain) but no one knows what exactly it is i want to do
  1358. (18:14:47) (Pain) he does shit for the gov
  1359. (18:14:49) (Pain) i can say that
  1360. (18:14:52) (Pain) what it is i cant say
  1361. (18:14:53) (the_accountant) i figured
  1362. (18:14:56) (Pain) but hes not a fed
  1363. (18:14:59) (the_accountant) thats what i figured
  1364. (18:15:00) (the_accountant) i now that
  1365. (18:15:01) (the_accountant) know*
  1366. (18:15:02) (Pain) hes watching
  1367. (18:15:07) (Pain) and getting paid for it
  1368. (18:15:08) (the_accountant) i felt he may be an agent
  1369. (18:15:17) (the_accountant) because of the fallout from the bluehell shit
  1370. (18:15:18) (the_accountant) but
  1371. (18:15:24) (the_accountant) and him running the show and not getting in trouble
  1372. (18:15:29) (the_accountant) and now he works for the govt
  1373. (18:15:30) (the_accountant) i mean
  1374. (18:15:32) (the_accountant) i love peanut3r
  1375. (18:15:34) (Pain) it was strange, i do admint
  1376. (18:15:39) (the_accountant) but im saying
  1377. (18:15:44) (Pain) but gov contracts do come with a bit of immunity baked in
  1378. (18:15:46) (the_accountant) sometimes when i speak to him, he seems to be lacking info
  1379. (18:15:50) (the_accountant) either intentionally
  1380. (18:15:56) (the_accountant) or maybe he just doesnt know sometimes
  1381. (18:16:01) (Pain) the zemperians tapped on my shoulder asking if i wanted to do gov contracts
  1382. (18:16:06) (Pain) zmda turned me off on that real quick
  1383. (18:16:06) (the_accountant) and the fact that he wouldnt know is even worse than intentionally lacking info
  1384. (18:16:17) (the_accountant) they did same with me
  1385. (18:16:26) (Pain) ive known w0rm for a long time
  1386. (18:16:33) (the_accountant) i always knew punk was doing govt contracts
  1387. (18:16:35) (Pain) i hosted his channel for a short time
  1388. (18:16:40) (the_accountant) punk is actually smart
  1389. (18:16:46) (Pain) punk == ihaq == yokai == rip
  1390. (18:16:55) (the_accountant) wait what
  1391. (18:16:58) (the_accountant) punk isnt yokai
  1392. (18:17:01) (Pain) dead serious
  1393. (18:17:03) (the_accountant) no
  1394. (18:17:06) (the_accountant) not possible
  1395. (18:17:07) (Pain) read his prophile
  1396. (18:17:11) (the_accountant) not possible
  1397. (18:17:18) (the_accountant) you're telling me i hacked yokai
  1398. (18:17:21) (the_accountant) not possible
  1399. (18:17:22) (Pain) thats why he wont talk t ome
  1400. (18:17:26) (Pain) because i know his secrets
  1401. (18:17:28) (the_accountant) you're telling me i hacked yokai
  1402. (18:17:30) (Pain) and i have his 2l8 codez
  1403. (18:17:31) (the_accountant) you're telling me i hacked yokai
  1404. (18:17:32) (the_accountant) you're telling me i hacked yokai
  1405. (18:17:40) (Pain) i almost did once
  1406. (18:17:43) (Pain) lol
  1407. (18:17:45) (Pain) i had his home IP
  1408. (18:17:48) (Pain) when he lived in MTL
  1409. (18:17:51) (the_accountant) you're telling me i fucking hacked yokai hahahaha
  1410. (18:17:52) (the_accountant) dude no way
  1411. (18:17:54) (Pain) macfags man
  1412. (18:17:55) (the_accountant) that cant be him
  1413. (18:17:59) (the_accountant) thats uberlames brother
  1414. (18:18:00) (the_accountant) punk is
  1415. (18:18:18) (the_accountant) he owned blackcatz
  1416. (18:18:18) (Pain) http://phrack.org/issues/67/2.html
  1417. (18:18:20) (Pain) this is yokai.
  1418. (18:18:23) (the_accountant) blackcatz is waht i hacked
  1419. (18:18:33) (the_accountant) even better yet
  1420. (18:18:34) (the_accountant) you mean
  1421. (18:18:34) (Pain) i know this becuase
  1422. (18:18:36) (Pain) i have this
  1423. (18:18:36) (the_accountant) defiler fukcing hacked
  1424. (18:18:37) (the_accountant) yokai
  1425. (18:18:41) (the_accountant) and i rm'd yokai?
  1426. (18:18:41) (the_accountant) LOL
  1427. (18:18:44) (Pain) Projects: Amnesia - portable FreeBSD rootkit
  1428. (18:18:44) (the_accountant) hahhhahahaahahahha
  1429. (18:18:46) (the_accountant) what a turn of events
  1430. (18:18:47) (Pain) i have a copy of that
  1431. (18:18:50) (Pain) right now
  1432. (18:18:57) (the_accountant) im crying right now dude
  1433. (18:19:00) (the_accountant) you have to be incorrect
  1434. (18:19:05) (Pain) it has a copy of skynet in it
  1435. (18:19:16) (Pain) skynet is a secret ssh backdoor
  1436. (18:19:22) (Pain) written by a former d1kline
  1437. (18:19:26) (Pain) named fmrj
  1438. (18:19:31) (the_accountant) wait
  1439. (18:19:32) (Pain) hes AB now
  1440. (18:19:33) (the_accountant) it wasnt merkin?
  1441. (18:19:35) (the_accountant) a black guy?
  1442. (18:19:38) (the_accountant) that made skynet?
  1443. (18:19:46) (the_accountant) half black
  1444. (18:19:47) (Pain) i dont know any of these people i just know a lot i shouldnt
  1445. (18:19:48) (the_accountant) hes mixed
  1446. (18:19:53) (Pain) again, logical deduction
  1447. (18:19:56) (the_accountant) bro i grew up with these people
  1448. (18:20:02) (the_accountant) merkin created skynet as a game hack
  1449. (18:20:03) (the_accountant) originally
  1450. (18:20:06) (the_accountant) for half-life mod
  1451. (18:20:06) (Pain) this is why people think i ma fed
  1452. (18:20:12) (Pain) im just really good at figuring shit out
  1453. (18:20:12) (the_accountant) counter-strike
  1454. (18:20:15) (the_accountant) and team fortress classic
  1455. (18:20:25) (Pain) wow you're old
  1456. (18:20:35) (the_accountant) im a very old school hacker man
  1457. (18:20:50) (Pain) then what came before steam?
  1458. (18:20:55) (the_accountant) valve
  1459. (18:21:00) (Pain) no
  1460. (18:21:02) (Pain) the client
  1461. (18:21:05) (the_accountant) oh fucking
  1462. (18:21:06) (the_accountant) uh
  1463. (18:21:08) (the_accountant) sec
  1464. (18:21:13) (the_accountant) i just remember the fucking networks
  1465. (18:21:14) (Pain) lol
  1466. (18:21:15) (the_accountant) gamesurge
  1467. (18:21:16) (the_accountant) gamesnet
  1468. (18:21:17) (the_accountant) quakenet
  1469. (18:21:28) (the_accountant) teamspeak
  1470. (18:21:35) (the_accountant) the one that starst with a P
  1471. (18:21:47) (the_accountant) what did come before steam
  1472. (18:21:48) (the_accountant) i forgot
  1473. (18:21:54) (the_accountant) i was a bunny hopping machine back then bro
  1474. (18:21:56) (the_accountant) in 1999
  1475. (18:22:02) (the_accountant) i played tfc beta, me and the_ROCK
  1476. (18:22:09) (the_accountant) became monsters of that game
  1477. (18:22:14) (the_accountant) legends
  1478. (18:22:19) (Pain) i started in the cheating scene
  1479. (18:22:23) (Pain) thats how i met defiler
  1480. (18:22:38) (the_accountant) thats how most of us came here
  1481. (18:22:41) (Pain) i kenw tamimego, absolution
  1482. (18:22:46) (the_accountant) myg0t had a lot of influence
  1483. (18:22:48) (the_accountant) on hacking community
  1484. (18:22:50) (Pain) the guy who wrote that that trampoline function
  1485. (18:22:52) (the_accountant) if you found myg0t server
  1486. (18:22:54) (the_accountant) you found botnets and shit
  1487. (18:22:59) (Pain) i was a myg0t prospect, twice
  1488. (18:23:13) (Pain) this is why i said not to fuck with green
  1489. (18:23:16) (Pain) because hes former myg0t
  1490. (18:23:20) (the_accountant) i know he is
  1491. (18:23:22) (Pain) they rarely work alone
  1492. (18:23:31) (Pain) and if you were in, you have all of them coming at you
  1493. (18:23:35) (the_accountant) want to know why hes a target
  1494. (18:23:36) (Pain) and they are ruthless
  1495. (18:23:53) (the_accountant) defiler said he played a hand in the bullshit with lola's server
  1496. (18:24:03) (the_accountant) supernets is a target
  1497. (18:24:12) (Pain) if green hadnt been caught and sent to jail
  1498. (18:24:12) (the_accountant) they arent the only ruthless bunch
  1499. (18:24:16) (Pain) he would be at the top of the food chain
  1500. (18:24:24) (the_accountant) i know who green is and what he's done, i know everything about him
  1501. (18:24:29) (the_accountant) i know his secondary root passwords
  1502. (18:24:41) (Pain) someones been busy
  1503. (18:24:43) (Pain) lol
  1504. (18:24:46) (the_accountant) i know how he did that
  1505. (18:25:12) (Pain) supernets though, knock yourself out
  1506. (18:25:16) (Pain) i wont stop you
  1507. (18:25:18) (Pain) iw ont even tel lthem
  1508. (18:25:22) (the_accountant) they wont know anything unless you tell them
  1509. (18:25:24) (the_accountant) lol
  1510. (18:25:26) (Pain) i have two clients there
  1511. (18:25:31) (Pain) so i malways watching
  1512. (18:25:33) (Pain) evne if they ban me
  1513. (18:25:45) (Pain) im not going to sya anything
  1514. (18:25:46) (the_accountant) and its not only defiler's call
  1515. (18:25:49) (Pain) they've fallen out of favor from me
  1516. (18:25:50) (the_accountant) people are coming out of pocket
  1517. (18:25:56) (the_accountant) saying supernets is cutthroat
  1518. (18:26:01) (the_accountant) and setting fire to the internet
  1519. (18:26:02) (the_accountant) you see
  1520. (18:26:05) (the_accountant) i raped storm
  1521. (18:26:06) (the_accountant) for LRH
  1522. (18:26:09) (the_accountant) to set supernets in motion
  1523. (18:26:11) (the_accountant) for what it is today
  1524. (18:26:15) (Pain) theres some stars amongst them, i will warn you abotu that
  1525. (18:26:22) (Pain) but i doubt they would stop you
  1526. (18:26:22) (the_accountant) i know which ones those are
  1527. (18:26:31) (the_accountant) they can get me back if they ever find a target
  1528. (18:26:33) (Pain) they might find it just as funny
  1529. (18:26:35) (Pain) its hard to say
  1530. (18:26:36) (the_accountant) but im prettty much an invisible figure
  1531. (18:26:40) (Pain) i havent been around them enough to say
  1532. (18:26:52) (the_accountant) its difficult when you have smoeone coming after you
  1533. (18:26:55) (the_accountant) you dont know anything about them
  1534. (18:26:59) (the_accountant) except they are coming
  1535. (18:27:05) (the_accountant) and they have more details about hacking than anyone should
  1536. (18:27:08) (Pain) which makes me think you're after me
  1537. (18:27:09) (the_accountant) and more malware scene info
  1538. (18:27:13) (the_accountant) nah
  1539. (18:27:22) (the_accountant) you were really one person defiler had me come try to speak with
  1540. (18:27:29) (the_accountant) i was already here
  1541. (18:27:29) (Pain) i want you to be fully aware that i can dead this shit i na heartbeat
  1542. (18:27:31) (the_accountant) i saw no harm
  1543. (18:27:36) (Pain) the flick of a switch
  1544. (18:27:43) (Pain) and im out the door
  1545. (18:27:59) (the_accountant) what do you mean
  1546. (18:28:06) (Pain) damage control is something ive mastered
  1547. (18:28:10) (the_accountant) you think im after you?
  1548. (18:28:12) (the_accountant) man no
  1549. (18:28:14) (the_accountant) dont think that please
  1550. (18:28:16) (Pain) its probably the only thing im actually good at
  1551. (18:28:46) (the_accountant) dont be paranoid pain im being told thats not a characteristic thats ever been known of yours
  1552. (18:28:56) (Pain) it used to be
  1553. (18:28:59) (Pain) i just hid it well
  1554. (18:29:05) (Pain) thats why i was passive agressive
  1555. (18:29:09) (Pain) which is what defiler learned
  1556. (18:29:19) (Pain) i was extremely tight lipped
  1557. (18:29:26) (the_accountant) but when things got tight between the group
  1558. (18:29:33) (the_accountant) defiler says you would group back up with them
  1559. (18:29:41) (the_accountant) and outcast defiler and anything defiler said it was over
  1560. (18:29:47) (the_accountant) you just uprooted away from him
  1561. (18:29:50) (the_accountant) and took the groups side
  1562. (18:29:56) (the_accountant) cause they would social you
  1563. (18:30:00) (Pain) somethings are inexcusable
  1564. (18:30:02) (the_accountant) when defiler never said anything ill on you
  1565. (18:30:05) (the_accountant) like what pain
  1566. (18:30:07) (Pain) i understand why i was blackballed now
  1567. (18:30:13) (the_accountant) what did he do, he didnt tell me
  1568. (18:30:24) (the_accountant) besides the rk
  1569. (18:30:29) (the_accountant) that had nothing to do with you
  1570. (18:30:33) (the_accountant) you shouldnt have been in that
  1571. (18:30:46) (the_accountant) but the reason you were is because defiler allowed you to be in there
  1572. (18:30:55) (Pain) he held zmda over my head, like he had the key to greatness wrapped up like a gift
  1573. (18:30:59) (Pain) he strung the carrot
  1574. (18:31:00) (Pain) and i reached
  1575. (18:31:05) (Pain) then he tried to throw me under the bus
  1576. (18:31:08) (Pain) and i talked to zmda
  1577. (18:31:14) (Pain) two weeks later and explained in great detail
  1578. (18:31:22) (Pain) and i ment i was visceral
  1579. (18:31:25) (the_accountant) what di he hold over you rhead
  1580. (18:31:25) (Pain) mean*
  1581. (18:31:30) (Pain) zmda
  1582. (18:31:33) (Pain) and hacking
  1583. (18:31:36) (Pain) and that he was on el8 ircd
  1584. (18:31:39) (Pain) and he knoew all them
  1585. (18:31:41) (Pain) all lies
  1586. (18:31:44) (Pain) every word of it
  1587. (18:31:46) (Pain) except zmda
  1588. (18:31:56) (the_accountant) zmda was el9 and that wasnt el8
  1589. (18:32:02) (the_accountant) zmda was the heart of el9
  1590. (18:32:04) (Pain) x0x0x i know
  1591. (18:32:08) (the_accountant) defiler was in the priv ircd
  1592. (18:32:11) (the_accountant) he quit coming on
  1593. (18:32:12) (the_accountant) lol
  1594. (18:32:30) (the_accountant) zmda eventually deleted his access and defiler only hung out on the pub efnet channel
  1595. (18:33:05) (the_accountant) it had port knocking with irssi running locally
  1596. (18:33:32) (the_accountant) he gave out the user info through defuse.ca encryption
  1597. (18:33:45) (the_accountant) look man defiler didnt lie to you
  1598. (18:33:53) (the_accountant) he just didnt extend to you all of the truth
  1599. (18:34:04) (the_accountant) zmda was speaking plenty enough about hacks for defiler in the public channel
  1600. (18:34:39) (Pain) my thoughts on the subject were very simply
  1601. (18:34:43) (the_accountant) and think of it like this pain
  1602. (18:34:44) (Pain) the xanax were clouding his mind
  1603. (18:34:48) (the_accountant) nah
  1604. (18:34:49) (the_accountant) think of it like this
  1605. (18:34:53) (the_accountant) you got invited to the ircd right
  1606. (18:34:58) (the_accountant) did you feel really welcome
  1607. (18:34:58) (Pain) no
  1608. (18:34:59) (the_accountant) or out of place
  1609. (18:35:09) (the_accountant) you never got into the ircd?
  1610. (18:35:17) (Pain) i didnt join anything defiler was apart of, he setup the introduction with zmda in the efnet chan
  1611. (18:35:27) (the_accountant) yea but defiler wasnt on the ircd at taht point
  1612. (18:35:30) (Pain) and me and zmda went from there
  1613. (18:35:39) (the_accountant) lol
  1614. (18:35:49) (Pain) the ircd zmda put me on we an efnet ircd he had on a shit vps somewhere in albanian or some shit
  1615. (18:35:55) (Pain) was an*
  1616. (18:35:56) (the_accountant) you're still missing the key points that defiler did join when he was instantly invited from zmda
  1617. (18:36:01) (the_accountant) only stayed for one day, why?
  1618. (18:36:03) (the_accountant) he didnt belong
  1619. (18:36:07) (the_accountant) the chats were over his head by miles
  1620. (18:36:16) (the_accountant) he stuck to the pub area where there were still hacker chats
  1621. (18:36:18) (the_accountant) taht he could understand
  1622. (18:36:23) (the_accountant) and pry off of and gain more knowledge
  1623. (18:36:34) (the_accountant) watching people speak foreign is boring yea?
  1624. (18:36:48) (Pain) outside of the efnet channel and #dmt, i was not aware of another ircd
  1625. (18:36:54) (the_accountant) if everyone is going hardcore on kernel dev and you don't have the slightest clue about it
  1626. (18:36:58) (Pain) i knew about what happened in #dmt from zmda, abdilo and savior
  1627. (18:37:01) (the_accountant) are you going to stay there and be quiet
  1628. (18:37:03) (the_accountant) and be the 'fed'
  1629. (18:37:07) (the_accountant) or are you goin to quit coming around
  1630. (18:37:12) (the_accountant) and stick to what you can retain at that moment
  1631. (18:37:21) (the_accountant) and come back later
  1632. (18:37:23) (the_accountant) cause you know its there
  1633. (18:37:27) (the_accountant) you know hou got access no problem once
  1634. (18:37:36) (the_accountant) whats the problem coming back 6 months later after zmda had him fully prepped
  1635. (18:37:38) (the_accountant) ready for that ircd
  1636. (18:37:45) (the_accountant) just like you, defiler didnt want to get found out
  1637. (18:38:03) (the_accountant) both of you had knowledge, both of you lacked some fundamental answers that needed to be learned
  1638. (18:38:19) (the_accountant) you didnt need to go any further than that pub chan either
  1639. (18:38:23) (Pain) i still lack some of them
  1640. (18:38:28) (the_accountant) and you would have it right now
  1641. (18:38:32) (the_accountant) if you would have been in that pub chan
  1642. (18:38:34) (the_accountant) lol
  1643. (18:38:40) (Pain) on efnet?
  1644. (18:38:40) (the_accountant) thats all im saying, zmda blogged in there 24/7
  1645. (18:38:42) (the_accountant) yes
  1646. (18:38:43) (the_accountant) on efnet
  1647. (18:38:45) (the_accountant) velocitum
  1648. (18:38:46) (Pain) im in there now
  1649. (18:38:52) (the_accountant) yea its probably dead now
  1650. (18:38:53) (Pain) its dead asf
  1651. (18:38:56) (the_accountant) when zmda was on
  1652. (18:38:58) (the_accountant) he was the only one who chat
  1653. (18:38:58) (Pain) cuz im waiting for 'ay' to come back
  1654. (18:39:05) (the_accountant) he talked to himself for hours
  1655. (18:39:09) (Pain) i pulled zmda to my private ircd
  1656. (18:39:10) (the_accountant) abdilo isnt coming back
  1657. (18:39:11) (the_accountant) sorry
  1658. (18:39:15) (the_accountant) hes gone for a while
  1659. (18:39:27) (the_accountant) sAv turned on him
  1660. (18:39:31) (the_accountant) abdilo turned on defiler
  1661. (18:39:32) (Pain) we've rebuilt what we had when we set fire to the Temple Defiler
  1662. (18:39:36) (the_accountant) defiler turned on abdilo and that put the nail in the coffin
  1663. (18:39:54) (the_accountant) yea but did you notice
  1664. (18:39:58) (the_accountant) right after that people disappearing
  1665. (18:40:05) (the_accountant) networks dropping
  1666. (18:40:07) (the_accountant) maybe not all of them
  1667. (18:40:11) (the_accountant) a few that he could get to
  1668. (18:40:12) (Pain) i can find sav right now
  1669. (18:40:14) (Pain) lol
  1670. (18:40:20) (Pain) him and abdilos name were on a site i helped make
  1671. (18:40:22) (Pain) (hidden hand)
  1672. (18:40:26) (Pain) its still online
  1673. (18:40:32) (Pain) i messaged sav using it
  1674. (18:40:35) (Pain) and he came on two weeks later
  1675. (18:40:51) (Pain) i see though hes secured it a bit more
  1676. (18:41:01) (the_accountant) you made something they cant
  1677. (18:41:05) (the_accountant) listen
  1678. (18:41:10) (the_accountant) abdilo could only google dork for sqli's
  1679. (18:41:14) (the_accountant) MLT was better than him at that shit
  1680. (18:41:16) (the_accountant) and thats all abdilo knew
  1681. (18:41:26) (the_accountant) sav was a bigger noob than everyone else
  1682. (18:41:30) (the_accountant) he was the lowest of the chain
  1683. (18:41:33) (Pain) i put in work with abdilo
  1684. (18:41:38) (the_accountant) sqlis? lol
  1685. (18:41:39) (Pain) almost a year ago or more now
  1686. (18:41:41) (Pain) no
  1687. (18:41:47) (the_accountant) stupid databases of bullshit?
  1688. (18:41:47) (Pain) he automated somethign we were working on
  1689. (18:41:49) (the_accountant) or those roots
  1690. (18:41:53) (the_accountant) the 50k roots i had
  1691. (18:41:58) (the_accountant) and let sav and abdilo in on
  1692. (18:41:59) (the_accountant) antirez
  1693. (18:42:03) (Pain) so you do know about that database
  1694. (18:42:05) (the_accountant) for reddit server
  1695. (18:42:08) (the_accountant) i fucking found it man
  1696. (18:42:11) (the_accountant) i gave it to sav and abdilo
  1697. (18:42:12) (the_accountant) omfg
  1698. (18:42:13) (Pain) name it
  1699. (18:42:17) (the_accountant) reddit-server
  1700. (18:42:18) (the_accountant) antirex
  1701. (18:42:20) (the_accountant) antirez
  1702. (18:42:20) (Pain) no
  1703. (18:42:25) (Pain) the email database
  1704. (18:42:26) (the_accountant) that was the one we did
  1705. (18:42:31) (the_accountant) oh not that one then
  1706. (18:42:46) (Pain) you've been very giving so i feel the need to do so
  1707. (18:42:50) (Pain) haveibeencompromised.com
  1708. (18:42:55) (Pain) me, sav and abdilo set that up
  1709. (18:42:59) (the_accountant) im talking about the telnet
  1710. (18:43:02) (the_accountant) no
  1711. (18:43:02) (the_accountant) you didnt
  1712. (18:43:03) (the_accountant) lol
  1713. (18:43:11) (Pain) :)
  1714. (18:43:17) (the_accountant) you telnet in and drop the cert
  1715. (18:43:30) (Pain) i knew about the reddit thing but not the detials of it
  1716. (18:43:34) (the_accountant) then login, the only thing sav did
  1717. (18:43:35) (Pain) i wasnt around for that
  1718. (18:43:38) (the_accountant) and abdilo
  1719. (18:43:39) (the_accountant) was automate
  1720. (18:43:43) (Pain) HBIC is my recommendations in working view
  1721. (18:43:45) (the_accountant) the grabbing of roots
  1722. (18:43:47) (the_accountant) i could have done that
  1723. (18:43:50) (the_accountant) but they did it with bash
  1724. (18:43:57) (the_accountant) im the one that found that article
  1725. (18:43:58) (the_accountant) lol
  1726. (18:44:06) (the_accountant) i handed it to abdilo and sav at the same time
  1727. (18:44:13) (the_accountant) then after that
  1728. (18:44:15) (Pain) sav asked me if i wanted my name on it
  1729. (18:44:17) (Pain) my real name
  1730. (18:44:17) (the_accountant) they gave me the bash script that i didnt even want
  1731. (18:44:21) (Pain) i told him hes out of his mind
  1732. (18:44:31) (the_accountant) bro that antirez post wasnt yours
  1733. (18:44:32) (the_accountant) it wasnt mine either
  1734. (18:44:35) (the_accountant) i just stumbled on it
  1735. (18:44:45) (Pain) no, idk anything about antirez
  1736. (18:44:48) (Pain) or x
  1737. (18:44:51) (the_accountant) then we arent talking about the same thing
  1738. (18:44:54) (Pain) this is news to me actually
  1739. (18:44:56) (Pain) lol
  1740. (18:45:04) (the_accountant) im talking about the telnet hack for reddit-server
  1741. (18:45:07) (the_accountant) is that what you are speaking on?
  1742. (18:45:10) (Pain) but you're painting a better picture of those i cinsidered friends
  1743. (18:45:14) (the_accountant) drop your keys and ssh in
  1744. (18:45:34) (the_accountant) is that the one you speak of?
  1745. (18:45:41) (Pain) no
  1746. (18:45:42) (the_accountant) cause either i showe that to abdilo and sav or they showed it to me
  1747. (18:45:48) (the_accountant) ok
  1748. (18:45:53) (the_accountant) i was about to say
  1749. (18:45:58) (Pain) HBIC is the database i speak of
  1750. (18:45:58) (the_accountant) cause we got 50k roots off that
  1751. (18:46:02) (the_accountant) nah
  1752. (18:46:02) (Pain) we built it
  1753. (18:46:05) (the_accountant) i wasnt around them then
  1754. (18:46:11) (Pain) this was recently
  1755. (18:46:13) (Pain) 2016ish
  1756. (18:46:14) (the_accountant) i dont know shit about HBIC shit
  1757. (18:46:18) (the_accountant) thats not recent
  1758. (18:46:21) (the_accountant) i was still hacking with them then
  1759. (18:46:26) (the_accountant) this antirez shit
  1760. (18:46:29) (the_accountant) thats why sav
  1761. (18:46:30) (the_accountant) got picked up
  1762. (18:46:31) (Pain) then how have we not met
  1763. (18:46:32) (the_accountant) by mi6
  1764. (18:46:43) (Pain) lol
  1765. (18:46:45) (the_accountant) the hilarious thing about the entire thing
  1766. (18:46:49) (the_accountant) it was all laid out for them to do it
  1767. (18:46:51) (the_accountant) and it took them
  1768. (18:46:52) (the_accountant) 3 days
  1769. (18:46:58) (the_accountant) to get that bash script going
  1770. (18:47:04) (the_accountant) to telnet into ip's already retained
  1771. (18:47:07) (the_accountant) and drop keys
  1772. (18:47:24) (the_accountant) i deleted all the roots cause
  1773. (18:47:27) (the_accountant) all my keys
  1774. (18:47:32) (the_accountant) cause of how many roots they got in a day
  1775. (18:47:35) (the_accountant) they were stupid as fuck
  1776. (18:47:39) (the_accountant) they pulled a fucking acid
  1777. (18:47:49) (the_accountant) 10k roots a day
  1778. (18:47:51) (the_accountant) come the fuck on
  1779. (18:47:55) (the_accountant) be smart.
  1780. (18:47:59) (Pain) hahaha
  1781. (18:48:01) (the_accountant) dwaan did the same thing
  1782. (18:48:04) (the_accountant) dwaan and x
  1783. (18:48:09) (the_accountant) with the hp data protector exploit
  1784. (18:48:10) (the_accountant) port 5000
  1785. (18:48:11) (Pain) i dont think acid was expecting as many as he got
  1786. (18:48:24) (the_accountant) i know he was unsuspected on those amazon instances
  1787. (18:48:34) (Pain) this is why i hold vxp to a high respect
  1788. (18:48:51) (Pain) because of what he helped
  1789. (18:49:04) (Pain) i will say this, they had acid dead to rites
  1790. (18:49:14) (the_accountant) what did they get acid with last
  1791. (18:49:16) (the_accountant) why did he go in last time
  1792. (18:49:23) (Pain) recently?
  1793. (18:49:25) (the_accountant) yes
  1794. (18:49:30) (Pain) he just got out yesaterday
  1795. (18:49:33) (Pain) i spoke with him
  1796. (18:49:38) (the_accountant) howd he go back in this time
  1797. (18:49:44) (Pain) he got in a really bad auto accident
  1798. (18:49:44) (the_accountant) i know the time before that was krashed snitching
  1799. (18:49:45) (the_accountant) and blue
  1800. (18:49:48) (the_accountant) oh
  1801. (18:49:55) (Pain) had a seizure at the wheel, drove off the road, hit a pole
  1802. (18:49:56) (the_accountant) and had a smart phone on him?
  1803. (18:50:02) (Pain) he went half way through the windsheild
  1804. (18:50:12) (the_accountant) had digital equipment on him didnt he
  1805. (18:50:18) (Pain) he was smoking pot to handle his pain
  1806. (18:50:22) (the_accountant) oh
  1807. (18:50:23) (the_accountant) shit
  1808. (18:50:25) (Pain) and said somethign on irc about it
  1809. (18:50:27) (Pain) on rizon
  1810. (18:50:31) (Pain) and someone narced on him
  1811. (18:50:31) (the_accountant) aw fuck
  1812. (18:50:33) (Pain) so he finished his time
  1813. (18:50:34) (the_accountant) blue did
  1814. (18:50:37) (the_accountant) blue narced
  1815. (18:50:42) (the_accountant) blue from 2600
  1816. (18:50:44) (the_accountant) on efnet
  1817. (18:50:44) (Pain) let me find out
  1818. (18:50:48) (the_accountant) ask aci
  1819. (18:50:49) (the_accountant) acid
  1820. (18:50:50) (Pain) i will bury that mother fucker
  1821. (18:50:57) (Pain) i know blue
  1822. (18:50:58) (the_accountant) acid will tell u
  1823. (18:51:01) (Pain) from toehr engagements
  1824. (18:51:09) (Pain) let me found out he fucked up
  1825. (18:51:13) (the_accountant) blue and krashed put him in jail the time before that
  1826. (18:51:13) (Pain) ill put him in a fucking holer
  1827. (18:51:20) (the_accountant) for probation violation
  1828. (18:51:22) (the_accountant) or parole w/e
  1829. (18:51:32) (the_accountant) and before that it was all acid, lol
  1830. (18:51:39) (Pain) i spoke to acid last night, he seems i ngood spirits
  1831. (18:51:40) (the_accountant) or probably krashed snitching him out the first time too
  1832. (18:51:50) (Pain) krashed is i n jail
  1833. (18:51:51) (the_accountant) hes probably done blaming others
  1834. (18:51:53) (Pain) if you didnt know
  1835. (18:51:56) (the_accountant) waht did he do
  1836. (18:52:00) (Pain) lewl
  1837. (18:52:02) (the_accountant) beat his fat wife
  1838. (18:52:04) (the_accountant) or a cop?
  1839. (18:52:09) (Pain) close
  1840. (18:52:10) (the_accountant) wait i heard he hit a cop or bit one
  1841. (18:52:11) (the_accountant) or some shit
  1842. (18:52:18) (Pain) him and his gf got int oa shouting match, neighbors called the cops
  1843. (18:52:21) (Pain) he bit a fucking cop dude
  1844. (18:52:24) (Pain) i wish i was making this up
  1845. (18:52:27) (the_accountant) haha
  1846. (18:52:28) (the_accountant) i was right
  1847. (18:52:31) (the_accountant) how the fuck did i remember that
  1848. (18:52:35) (Pain) his gf came on irc
  1849. (18:52:36) (the_accountant) i was told that once 9 months ago on irc
  1850. (18:52:37) (Pain) trying to defned him
  1851. (18:52:42) (Pain) we were having none of it
  1852. (18:52:43) (the_accountant) lol
  1853. (18:52:45) (the_accountant) hahahhha
  1854. (18:52:56) (Pain) we shunned her offline
  1855. (18:53:26) (the_accountant) lol i just found talon from that h0no zine
  1856. (18:53:28) (the_accountant) small world
  1857. (18:53:31) (the_accountant) hes still using that name
  1858. (18:53:38) (Pain) http://krashedfacts.com/
  1859. (18:53:41) (Pain) its all there brother
  1860. (18:53:45) (the_accountant) hahahhhhahahhahaa
  1861. (18:53:46) (the_accountant) omg
  1862. (18:54:07) (Pain) sandra is his old lady
  1863. (18:54:10) (Pain) Kobrat
  1864. (18:55:14) (the_accountant) buzz your girlfriend
  1865. (18:55:15) (the_accountant) WOOF
  1866. (18:55:29) (Pain) she actually made things worse
  1867. (18:55:37) (Pain) it was both sad and hilarious t owatch
  1868. (18:56:46) (the_accountant) hahahahah oh man
  1869. (18:56:52) (the_accountant) you guys really went to work on krashed (again)
  1870. (18:57:23) (Pain) i actualyl know who maintains that site
  1871. (18:57:33) (Pain) im glad he likes me
  1872. (18:57:34) (Pain) lol
  1873. (18:57:46) (Pain) one of the few supernetticals to do so
  1874. (18:57:48) (Pain) lol
  1875. (18:57:49) (the_accountant) im proxified :D
  1876. (18:58:02) (the_accountant) i figured it would be one of them anyway
  1877. (18:58:05) (Pain) dont worry about that
  1878. (18:58:06) (the_accountant) they are usually pulling shennanigans
  1879. (18:58:09) (the_accountant) its funny
  1880. (18:58:14) (the_accountant) we helped clean up efnet
  1881. (18:58:14) (Pain) i dont have access and im not asking hi mfor logs
  1882. (18:58:20) (the_accountant) for LRH
  1883. (18:58:22) (the_accountant) LRH turned into supernets
  1884. (18:58:28) (the_accountant) and now supernets is worse than storm and friends ever was
  1885. (18:58:28) (Pain) no kidding..
  1886. (18:58:36) (Pain) more or less
  1887. (18:58:38) (the_accountant) they are causing more havoc than anything else
  1888. (18:58:41) (Pain) they have a secret channel
  1889. (18:58:43) (the_accountant) more for sure bro its all over the web
  1890. (18:58:44) (Pain) im not allowed in it
  1891. (18:58:54) (the_accountant) everyone is complaining
  1892. (18:58:56) (the_accountant) they are making waves
  1893. (18:58:59) (Pain) though my name is now involved
  1894. (18:59:05) (Pain) i can only imagine whats waiting for me
  1895. (18:59:12) (the_accountant) chrono's name is the biggest part of it, every post is describing him
  1896. (18:59:16) (Pain) dont worry though
  1897. (18:59:19) (Pain) im distancing myself
  1898. (18:59:22) (the_accountant) SUPER SPAMMY FAGGOT BLAH BLAH BLAH SUPERNETS
  1899. (18:59:24) (the_accountant) *chrono*
  1900. (18:59:40) (the_accountant) nah they wont get in trouble for it
  1901. (18:59:40) (Pain) i would love to see someone go after chrono
  1902. (18:59:43) (Pain) so many people have tried
  1903. (18:59:46) (Pain) none get far
  1904. (18:59:50) (the_accountant) hes good with opsec
  1905. (18:59:53) (the_accountant) hes hidden his name pretty well
  1906. (18:59:56) (Pain) sooooo many people have tried
  1907. (18:59:58) (the_accountant) the only thing i can do on him
  1908. (19:00:03) (the_accountant) is finger all the drilling wells
  1909. (19:00:06) (Pain) wanna know a secret?
  1910. (19:00:07) (the_accountant) in louisiana
  1911. (19:00:15) (Pain) he taught me everything i knew upuntil i met zmda
  1912. (19:00:15) (the_accountant) and find out which one matches the pics
  1913. (19:00:22) (Pain) which is why i dont fuck with chrono
  1914. (19:00:28) (the_accountant) chrono isnt that good man
  1915. (19:00:30) (the_accountant) he just had an early in
  1916. (19:00:35) (the_accountant) with a bunch of guys who knew how to stfu
  1917. (19:00:35) (Pain) and i dont advise anyone do it either
  1918. (19:00:40) (Pain) yep
  1919. (19:00:42) (Pain) lol
  1920. (19:00:43) (the_accountant) hes more known than me though
  1921. (19:00:50) (the_accountant) more doxxable than ill ever be
  1922. (19:00:54) (the_accountant) he has locations now
  1923. (19:00:58) (the_accountant) which makes him a bigger target
  1924. (19:01:08) (Pain) its not hard to track him, if you follow his patterns
  1925. (19:01:16) (the_accountant) true
  1926. (19:01:22) (Pain) i can pin him to a specific day at one location
  1927. (19:01:23) (the_accountant) opiates -- spamming supernets
  1928. (19:01:25) (Pain) he was in eyeshot of
  1929. (19:01:33) (the_accountant) and spamming up paragraphs of text within .00002 seconds
  1930. (19:01:38) (Pain) he spoke about it once
  1931. (19:01:53) (the_accountant) you know the story of him and krashed
  1932. (19:01:54) (Pain) it wouldnt be hard to figure out who he is through elimination
  1933. (19:01:57) (the_accountant) he actually told this story
  1934. (19:02:03) (the_accountant) im not sure if he got fucked up and told you before
  1935. (19:02:09) (the_accountant) about him and bratty snitching on krashed
  1936. (19:02:12) (Pain) i dont think so
  1937. (19:02:14) (the_accountant) everyone rolling over on krashed, all of bluehell
  1938. (19:02:15) (Pain) no
  1939. (19:02:18) (the_accountant) bro
  1940. (19:02:18) (Pain) not that
  1941. (19:02:27) (the_accountant) it was bratty's idea
  1942. (19:02:29) (Pain) though i dont care for bratty at all
  1943. (19:02:32) (the_accountant) chrono executed it cause he got raided
  1944. (19:02:36) (Pain) shes worse than moon
  1945. (19:02:39) (the_accountant) instead of taking the lick
  1946. (19:02:39) (Pain) and moons a snitch
  1947. (19:02:41) (the_accountant) chrono snitched out krashed
  1948. (19:02:44) (the_accountant) krashed snitched out *
  1949. (19:02:44) (Pain) moon is acids ex-wife
  1950. (19:02:46) (the_accountant) game over
  1951. (19:02:54) (Pain) he narcd on Jason
  1952. (19:02:55) (Pain) well
  1953. (19:02:58) (Pain) Nessun
  1954. (19:03:08) (Pain) i still have a lot of respect for Nessun though he does nothing now
  1955. (19:03:15) (Pain) he doesnt even run rizon anymore
  1956. (19:03:17) (the_accountant) who narced on nessun?
  1957. (19:03:18) (Pain) he stepped down
  1958. (19:03:22) (Pain) krashed
  1959. (19:03:24) (the_accountant) o
  1960. (19:03:30) (the_accountant) i cant keep up with everyone krashed narcs on
  1961. (19:03:43) (the_accountant) he's narced on me but nobody can figure out who those nicks match up with cause i swap so much
  1962. (19:03:44) (Pain) nessun ran rizon when all that krashed shit went down
  1963. (19:03:49) (Pain) claimed nessun told him to hit mIRCX
  1964. (19:03:54) (Pain) which made rizon what it is today
  1965. (19:04:06) (the_accountant) lol
  1966. (19:04:13) (Pain) nessun stepped down though
  1967. (19:04:13) (the_accountant) i dont get how u guys
  1968. (19:04:16) (Pain) i know who runs rizon now
  1969. (19:04:18) (the_accountant) have had so many federal encounters
  1970. (19:04:22) (the_accountant) how the fuck
  1971. (19:04:22) (the_accountant) lol
  1972. (19:04:26) (the_accountant) ive had 0!!!
  1973. (19:04:26) (Pain) me
  1974. (19:04:28) (Pain) either
  1975. (19:04:30) (Pain) dude
  1976. (19:04:32) (Pain) .
  1977. (19:04:38) (Pain) this is why i keep an indirect touch
  1978. (19:04:42) (the_accountant) well
  1979. (19:04:44) (the_accountant) its mostly because
  1980. (19:04:46) (the_accountant) we were both taught
  1981. (19:04:47) (Pain) because if you know my name, ive failed
  1982. (19:04:49) (the_accountant) bfore we dived in
  1983. (19:04:53) (the_accountant) everyone else dived into this
  1984. (19:04:56) (the_accountant) we eased in
  1985. (19:05:01) (Pain) i was taught very well
  1986. (19:05:03) (the_accountant) you had chrono
  1987. (19:05:08) (the_accountant) in 1999
  1988. (19:05:10) (the_accountant) i had cDc server
  1989. (19:05:14) (the_accountant) teaching me all kinds of shit
  1990. (19:05:16) (Pain) i had the hidden opers of bluehell teaching me as well
  1991. (19:05:21) (the_accountant) i wasnt in cDc dont take me for saying that please
  1992. (19:05:24) (the_accountant) i am not a god.
  1993. (19:05:24) (the_accountant) lol
  1994. (19:05:27) (Pain) some of them are still my friends to this day
  1995. (19:05:31) (the_accountant) but i was in that server!!!
  1996. (19:05:33) (the_accountant) i take pride in that
  1997. (19:05:37) (the_accountant) i was there for cDc at the end
  1998. (19:05:39) (Pain) i know the attack research guys of the NSF
  1999. (19:05:46) (Pain) they wrote metasploit
  2000. (19:06:00) (Pain) ninja strike force
  2001. (19:06:03) (Pain) i know all about cDc
  2002. (19:06:03) (the_accountant) metasploit was always laughable but had its little ways
  2003. (19:06:16) (the_accountant) helpd out people that could do nothing get botnets
  2004. (19:06:18) (Pain) egyp7 and whitetras(h)
  2005. (19:06:18) (the_accountant) i.e. syn
  2006. (19:06:27) (Pain) lead devs
  2007. (19:06:32) (Pain) known them for years
  2008. (19:06:40) (the_accountant) so you know
  2009. (19:06:42) (the_accountant) Zi then?
  2010. (19:07:06) (the_accountant) Zi wasnt in cDc, just there
  2011. (19:07:20) (the_accountant) the youngest kid in the server
  2012. (19:07:28) (the_accountant) 13 years old
  2013. (19:08:00) (Pain) i was on cDc briefly
  2014. (19:08:02) (Pain) back i nthe day
  2015. (19:08:05) (Pain) to see what it was about
  2016. (19:08:07) (Pain) it was dead
  2017. (19:08:11) (the_accountant) ah
  2018. (19:08:20) (the_accountant) so cDc for you was like what bluehell was for me
  2019. (19:08:21) (Pain) most people that i know dont know this nickname
  2020. (19:08:22) (the_accountant) which im glad about
  2021. (19:08:23) (Pain) this is my main one
  2022. (19:08:29) (Pain) you wont ever know my other ones
  2023. (19:08:43) (Pain) cDc for me was like the old guard
  2024. (19:08:50) (the_accountant) i wouldnt know lol i just know a bunch of people you used to run with
  2025. (19:08:54) (Pain) i wasnt on bluehell
  2026. (19:09:03) (Pain) but i know all the secret opers of it
  2027. (19:09:16) (Pain) some of them are former w4rl0rds
  2028. (19:09:20) (the_accountant) critical, a03 (rex), subz, l34k, im already tired of naming people
  2029. (19:09:40) (Pain) i have a03's code
  2030. (19:09:43) (Pain) he passworded it
  2031. (19:09:44) (Pain) :(
  2032. (19:09:48) (Pain) havent seen him around in a long time
  2033. (19:09:53) (the_accountant) rex?
  2034. (19:09:55) (the_accountant) i have that skeleton
  2035. (19:09:57) (the_accountant) that p2p skeleton
  2036. (19:09:57) (Pain) crit is a friend, subz is my e-lover
  2037. (19:09:58) (the_accountant) its trash
  2038. (19:09:58) (Pain) or one of them
  2039. (19:10:02) (Pain) and idk who l34k is
  2040. (19:10:04) (Pain) yea
  2041. (19:10:06) (Pain) it is
  2042. (19:10:09) (Pain) he CP'd most of it
  2043. (19:10:09) (the_accountant) yea thats rex's
  2044. (19:10:11) (the_accountant) its trash
  2045. (19:10:12) (Pain) i helped him with it
  2046. (19:10:12) (the_accountant) yea he did
  2047. (19:10:14) (Pain) lol
  2048. (19:10:14) (the_accountant) from :)
  2049. (19:10:24) (Pain) zorenium
  2050. (19:10:27) (the_accountant) no
  2051. (19:10:27) (Pain) i have the rar
  2052. (19:10:35) (Pain) he had LinkBot too
  2053. (19:10:35) (the_accountant) he stole it from a specific guy
  2054. (19:10:38) (Pain) was trying to sell it
  2055. (19:10:41) (the_accountant) i think his name was uh
  2056. (19:10:45) (the_accountant) x0r?
  2057. (19:10:45) (the_accountant) nah
  2058. (19:10:46) (the_accountant) thats not it
  2059. (19:10:49) (the_accountant) fuck what was it
  2060. (19:10:54) (the_accountant) i thought his name was :)
  2061. (19:10:55) (the_accountant) or xD
  2062. (19:10:56) (the_accountant) yes
  2063. (19:10:56) (the_accountant) thats it
  2064. (19:10:57) (the_accountant) xD
  2065. (19:11:01) (the_accountant) he stole xD's code
  2066. (19:11:05) (the_accountant) thast xD's p2p skeleton
  2067. (19:11:09) (Pain) ha[x|q]net xd?
  2068. (19:11:12) (the_accountant) thats rex was running around with, it was so poorly coded man
  2069. (19:11:13) (the_accountant) yes
  2070. (19:11:18) (Pain) THAT FUCKING KIKE
  2071. (19:11:24) (Pain) HE KNEW THE PLAY I WAS MAKING AGAINST XD
  2072. (19:11:26) (Pain) AND HE DID IT ANYWAY
  2073. (19:11:29) (the_accountant) lmao
  2074. (19:11:29) (Pain) FUCKLING NIGGERS I SWEAR
  2075. (19:11:34) (the_accountant) the things you hear later on
  2076. (19:11:35) (the_accountant) :P
  2077. (19:11:41) (Pain) goddamnit im not talking to anymore english people
  2078. (19:11:44) (Pain) they piss me the fuck off
  2079. (19:11:47) (the_accountant) british
  2080. (19:11:51) (the_accountant) wanst he brit
  2081. (19:11:54) (the_accountant) he was black
  2082. (19:12:01) (Pain) his face was paraded around london for awhile
  2083. (19:12:04) (Pain) he showed me the article
  2084. (19:12:09) (the_accountant) he showed me too
  2085. (19:12:10) (Pain) he was a wanted man
  2086. (19:12:12) (the_accountant) he was excited
  2087. (19:12:13) (Pain) when he stole zoreniium
  2088. (19:12:14) (the_accountant) about it
  2089. (19:12:16) (Pain) yea
  2090. (19:12:16) (the_accountant) yea
  2091. (19:12:17) (the_accountant) lol
  2092. (19:12:19) (Pain) mother fucker man
  2093. (19:12:25) (the_accountant) the funny part is he wasnt really getting money off of it
  2094. (19:12:27) (the_accountant) he got minimal LR
  2095. (19:12:30) (the_accountant) thast it
  2096. (19:12:31) (the_accountant) lmao
  2097. (19:12:40) (Pain) i wish i had the PW to it
  2098. (19:12:42) (Pain) i cant even see the contents
  2099. (19:12:43) (the_accountant) funny thing though
  2100. (19:12:46) (the_accountant) i mean he had mild ddos powers
  2101. (19:12:51) (the_accountant) but he was using dreamboxes
  2102. (19:12:52) (the_accountant) and ciscos
  2103. (19:12:52) (the_accountant) lol
  2104. (19:12:56) (Pain) xd?
  2105. (19:12:59) (the_accountant) same shit critical was using
  2106. (19:13:00) (the_accountant) no
  2107. (19:13:00) (the_accountant) rex
  2108. (19:13:02) (the_accountant) and critical
  2109. (19:13:04) (Pain) lol
  2110. (19:13:11) (the_accountant) critcal was brute forcing all the time
  2111. (19:13:12) (Pain) crit actually works at a major provider now
  2112. (19:13:14) (Pain) he doesnt have to ddos
  2113. (19:13:18) (Pain) he just unplugs your route
  2114. (19:13:21) (the_accountant) no i get that i figured he would
  2115. (19:13:21) (Pain) then plugs it back in
  2116. (19:13:32) (the_accountant) when he made gigebox i knew critical would make it
  2117. (19:13:37) (the_accountant) he ran hostrazor
  2118. (19:13:39) (Pain) so you're hack3r then
  2119. (19:13:50) (Pain) you came on my network
  2120. (19:13:52) (the_accountant) nah you still wont figure me out
  2121. (19:13:55) (the_accountant) thats not me
  2122. (19:13:59) (the_accountant) youll never guess
  2123. (19:13:59) (Pain) and didnt know it was mine
  2124. (19:14:03) (Pain) someone came on using that handle
  2125. (19:14:09) (Pain) said that gigebox had free shells
  2126. (19:14:13) (Pain) i was looking for crit
  2127. (19:14:16) (Pain) so i could get ovz access
  2128. (19:14:18) (Pain) to see who it was
  2129. (19:14:21) (the_accountant) oh wait
  2130. (19:14:21) (Pain) but crit is MIA
  2131. (19:14:28) (the_accountant) i hacked gigebox
  2132. (19:14:33) (the_accountant) and came to crypticclarity
  2133. (19:14:37) (the_accountant) trying to hand out shells
  2134. (19:14:40) (Pain) i told xz3r0 i could hack it
  2135. (19:14:42) (Pain) yep
  2136. (19:14:45) (the_accountant) thats waht happened
  2137. (19:14:46) (Pain) welcome to my network
  2138. (19:14:46) (the_accountant) i remmeber now
  2139. (19:14:55) (Pain) i dont use this nick on there
  2140. (19:14:57) (the_accountant) i went there cause of obiwan
  2141. (19:14:58) (the_accountant) and saw you
  2142. (19:14:59) (Pain) for that exact reason
  2143. (19:15:01) (Pain) we spoke
  2144. (19:15:08) (Pain) though you didnt realize it was me
  2145. (19:15:15) (the_accountant) i did after i got zlined
  2146. (19:15:18) (the_accountant) lol
  2147. (19:15:20) (Pain) :)
  2148. (19:15:22) (the_accountant) someone told me you zlined me
  2149. (19:15:24) (the_accountant) lol
  2150. (19:15:29) (the_accountant) i think it was konsumer
  2151. (19:15:29) (Pain) i dont think i did actually
  2152. (19:15:35) (Pain) i wouldnt gline any of glenns boxes
  2153. (19:15:36) (the_accountant) i think u did
  2154. (19:15:37) (Pain) or crits
  2155. (19:15:39) (Pain) i love them both
  2156. (19:15:41) (Pain) even if glenn is a fag
  2157. (19:15:42) (the_accountant) on crypticlarity
  2158. (19:15:53) (the_accountant) someone said that was u
  2159. (19:15:54) (Pain) honestly id have to look i nthe gline list
  2160. (19:15:57) (Pain) sec
  2161. (19:15:57) (the_accountant) idk its no big deal
  2162. (19:16:06) (the_accountant) that was so long ago theres no telling
  2163. (19:16:18) (the_accountant) i had critical hacked and did nothing with it
  2164. (19:16:19) (the_accountant) because
  2165. (19:16:22) (the_accountant) critical didnt respond to it
  2166. (19:16:27) (the_accountant) he played the master move tbh
  2167. (19:16:35) (the_accountant) he got hacked and kept his mouth shut the entire time
  2168. (19:16:40) (the_accountant) didnt respond to anything i said when i gained entry
  2169. (19:16:53) (Pain) this one
  2170. (19:16:55) (Pain) :Sry this network is invite only. No offence. thx.
  2171. (19:17:04) (the_accountant) lol yea htats it
  2172. (19:17:12) (the_accountant) the no offense i remember that
  2173. (19:17:15) (Pain) This network is neutral, It is an Invite only net and we stay out of other people's business, we are completely NOT involved. ty for understanding.
  2174. (19:17:17) (Pain) and that one
  2175. (19:17:20) (Pain) i didnt set either of those
  2176. (19:17:28) (Pain) i dont use capitalization
  2177. (19:17:29) (the_accountant) that last one isnt me i dont think
  2178. (19:17:32) (the_accountant) if it was it was znc reconnecting
  2179. (19:17:35) (Pain) it doesnt show me who set it either
  2180. (19:17:41) (the_accountant) that first one
  2181. (19:17:42) (the_accountant) thats me
  2182. (19:17:46) (the_accountant) sry this network is invite only
  2183. (19:17:48) (Pain) -- | [:*@78.46.172.1] 1420587851 0 Forseti.CryptiClarity.net :Sry this network is invite only. No offence. thx.
  2184. (19:17:51) (the_accountant) that ban was for me
  2185. (19:17:53) (the_accountant) yep
  2186. (19:17:56) (the_accountant) tahts the ip i had
  2187. (19:17:56) (the_accountant) lol
  2188. (19:17:57) (Pain) and i wouldnt spell offense wrong
  2189. (19:17:59) (Pain) lol
  2190. (19:18:13) (Pain) i didnt set that ban
  2191. (19:18:17) (Pain) you're in the gline list
  2192. (19:18:19) (Pain) not the zline
  2193. (19:18:22) (Pain) i zline people
  2194. (19:18:23) (Pain) not gline
  2195. (19:18:27) (the_accountant) its all the same
  2196. (19:18:29) (the_accountant) when banned ur banned
  2197. (19:18:43) (Pain) just know it wasnt me, and take no offense by it
  2198. (19:18:51) (Pain) no one on that network has the power to move a pencil anymore
  2199. (19:18:55) (Pain) much less retaliate
  2200. (19:18:56) (the_accountant) nah i didnt, i knew whatever happened there
  2201. (19:18:58) (Pain) leave it be, is all i ask
  2202. (19:19:00) (the_accountant) nobody had any idea who i was
  2203. (19:19:04) (the_accountant) there was no offense to take
  2204. (19:19:08) (the_accountant) you guys had no idea who i was
  2205. (19:19:09) (the_accountant) nobody ever does
  2206. (19:19:15) (the_accountant) its easy for me not to take offense cause of that
  2207. (19:19:20) (Pain) i thoguth you wre 'ay'
  2208. (19:19:22) (Pain) i was going to ask
  2209. (19:19:25) (the_accountant) cause i know deep down
  2210. (19:19:27) (Pain) because i told him abotu that place
  2211. (19:19:27) (the_accountant) you guys have no clue who i am
  2212. (19:19:34) (the_accountant) so anything you say wont hit home with me
  2213. (19:19:39) (the_accountant) cause i wont believe you are talking about me
  2214. (19:19:43) (the_accountant) so its not effective
  2215. (19:19:48) (Pain) you're mirroring one person
  2216. (19:19:48) (Pain) right now
  2217. (19:19:55) (the_accountant) who?
  2218. (19:19:56) (Pain) and that one person wouldnt be within a fucking hemisphere of defiler
  2219. (19:20:04) (the_accountant) haha
  2220. (19:20:10) (the_accountant) im wondering who now :P
  2221. (19:20:11) (Pain) even though he lives in cali..
  2222. (19:20:13) (Pain) hilarious right?
  2223. (19:20:25) (Pain) i dont know his rela nick, or even name
  2224. (19:20:29) (Pain) i dont even know his first name
  2225. (19:20:34) (Pain) you could be socialing me to see what i know
  2226. (19:20:38) (Pain) everythign with him is a game
  2227. (19:20:39) (the_accountant) nah
  2228. (19:20:45) (Pain) and i enjoy playign it
  2229. (19:20:50) (the_accountant) i dont game with people, i actually urge people not to try to guess who i am
  2230. (19:20:56) (the_accountant) i try to tell people they wont guess cause they wont
  2231. (19:21:08) (Pain) i said one of his nicks earlier
  2232. (19:21:08) (the_accountant) i very seldomly speak to anyone, and if i do its to make progress
  2233. (19:21:12) (Pain) i wont repeat it
  2234. (19:21:17) (Pain) it was used in only one place, and hed know if i said it
  2235. (19:21:35) (Pain) his opsec is *TIGHT*
  2236. (19:21:41) (the_accountant) ill admit you said something that is right on but
  2237. (19:21:51) (the_accountant) youll never see me admit to what you said
  2238. (19:21:57) (the_accountant) you could say it now ill just deny everything you said again
  2239. (19:22:06) (Pain) LOL
  2240. (19:22:08) (Pain) caps
  2241. (19:22:11) (the_accountant) lol
  2242. (19:22:26) (Pain) its what i do man
  2243. (19:22:38) (Pain) we're feeling each other out
  2244. (19:22:41) (Pain) i know that for a fact
  2245. (19:22:44) (the_accountant) have to
  2246. (19:22:51) (the_accountant) need to figure out if i can trust u or not
  2247. (19:22:58) (Pain) this is what im ruthless in
  2248. (19:23:00) (Pain) not in hacking
  2249. (19:23:15) (the_accountant) what, keeping secrets?
  2250. (19:23:16) (the_accountant) lol
  2251. (19:23:17) (Pain) if there is anyone online you could give that title, its me
  2252. (19:23:19) (Pain) for certain
  2253. (19:23:24) (the_accountant) if you know chrono's name thats the best secret youve ever kept
  2254. (19:23:30) (the_accountant) period
  2255. (19:23:32) (Pain) i know his first name
  2256. (19:23:41) (Pain) he wont admit to it
  2257. (19:23:43) (Pain) but i do know it
  2258. (19:23:43) (the_accountant) defiler keeps saying kevin
  2259. (19:23:51) (Pain) cuz thats what i told him
  2260. (19:23:55) (the_accountant) ah
  2261. (19:24:00) (Pain) like i said
  2262. (19:24:04) (Pain) i gave him al lthe proof he needed
  2263. (19:24:12) (Pain) to bury himself
  2264. (19:24:16) (Pain) he tried to show chrono
  2265. (19:24:19) (Pain) and chrono pm'd me
  2266. (19:24:36) (the_accountant) damn
  2267. (19:24:38) (Pain) THE SHITS CHESS IT AINT CHECKAS
  2268. (19:24:41) (the_accountant) drugs make defiler bipolar
  2269. (19:24:42) (the_accountant) lol
  2270. (19:24:45) (the_accountant) im worried
  2271. (19:24:51) (the_accountant) gotta keep this kid drug free man
  2272. (19:24:58) (Pain) no but really, if he hadnt have started it, i wouldnt have lit the match
  2273. (19:25:16) (Pain) defiler was already covered in gas
  2274. (19:25:20) (Pain) i jsut gave him what he needed
  2275. (19:25:30) (the_accountant) is that the time that defiler got a bunch of info off chrono's znc?
  2276. (19:25:40) (Pain) let me find the log
  2277. (19:25:40) (the_accountant) and blamed it on acid?
  2278. (19:25:47) (the_accountant) or did he blame that on you
  2279. (19:25:56) (the_accountant) he said he cant remember
  2280. (19:26:30) (the_accountant) apparently defiler had logs of private chats that nobody else had or could have given him
  2281. (19:27:03) (Pain) this entire log
  2282. (19:27:05) (Pain) https://pastebin.com/P9wdBym6
  2283. (19:27:08) (Pain) was from the info i gave him
  2284. (19:27:13) (Pain) ak is not chrono though
  2285. (19:27:30) (Pain) the fuzi0n bits
  2286. (19:27:34) (Pain) are fro mthat HBIC database
  2287. (19:27:40) (Pain) we were going after them hard
  2288. (19:27:44) (Pain) and lola got the worst of it
  2289. (19:28:00) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> this is
  2290. (19:28:02) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> proof
  2291. (19:28:04) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> chrono
  2292. (19:28:06) (Pain) [11:01] <ak> what does that have to do with ma0u or me
  2293. (19:28:08) (Pain) [11:01] <ak> ?
  2294. (19:28:10) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> is part of a private little group of skids
  2295. (19:28:12) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> tryin to dox us
  2296. (19:28:14) (Pain) [11:01] <bongrip> but failing
  2297. (19:28:16) (Pain) nope, just me
  2298. (19:29:22) (the_accountant) lol, hair colors, blood types
  2299. (19:29:41) (the_accountant) this guy defiler talked wayy too fucking much man this isnt the same guy i speak to
  2300. (19:31:10) (the_accountant) hrm i was told there was a channel of people trying to dox them, and abdilo was doxed in that page
  2301. (19:31:21) (the_accountant) no wait, lola was doxed on there wasnt he?
  2302. (19:31:37) (the_accountant) you made lola and abdilo fall out
  2303. (19:31:41) (the_accountant) 2 friends living in the same area
  2304. (19:32:03) (the_accountant) lola being doxed, lola knew abdilo did it
  2305. (19:32:10) (the_accountant) so abdilo gave you the info and in turn that got abdilo doxed
  2306. (19:32:18) (the_accountant) and that gave defiler the info he needed
  2307. (19:32:20) (the_accountant) to jail abdilo
  2308. (19:32:21) (the_accountant) so
  2309. (19:32:26) (the_accountant) you're a victim of yourself
  2310. (19:32:34) (the_accountant) you're searching for someone that you put in jail
  2311. (19:32:36) (the_accountant) lol
  2312. (19:34:12) (the_accountant) then you got wtfux involved and got them hacked too lol
  2313. (19:34:20) (the_accountant) damn pain lol you really were part of all that
  2314. (19:34:44) (the_accountant) if you think about it, you were the most damage inflicting person out of the entire ordeal
  2315. (19:34:47) (Pain) the man ive done work with is searching for me
  2316. (19:34:49) (the_accountant) on both parties
  2317. (19:34:55) (Pain) <--
  2318. (19:35:11) (Pain) im the armies dying wich
  2319. (19:35:14) (Pain) wish
  2320. (19:35:19) (Pain) i was born with situational awareness
  2321. (19:35:26) (Pain) tatctics are like breathing to me
  2322. (19:35:34) (the_accountant) more like you just played a decent hand that you were dealt
  2323. (19:35:38) (the_accountant) you were handed everything
  2324. (19:35:43) (the_accountant) lola gave you the passwords
  2325. (19:35:45) (Pain) im just glad someone finally put a point on all my work
  2326. (19:35:47) (the_accountant) lola didnt secure the boxes
  2327. (19:35:51) (the_accountant) lola gave u guys root
  2328. (19:35:54) (the_accountant) there was no hacking really
  2329. (19:36:00) (Pain) that mirc bot thing
  2330. (19:36:02) (Pain) was all ak
  2331. (19:36:06) (Pain) and them kacing insec
  2332. (19:36:08) (Pain) all supernets
  2333. (19:36:12) (Pain) ak is the owner of supernets
  2334. (19:36:14) (the_accountant) that part was actually funny
  2335. (19:36:18) (the_accountant) that bot did get exploited
  2336. (19:36:23) (the_accountant) thats all that happened
  2337. (19:36:31) (Pain) wanna know something funny?
  2338. (19:36:34) (the_accountant) poorly coded bot and shitty server owner
  2339. (19:36:43) (the_accountant) what?
  2340. (19:36:44) (Pain) how i originally came across defiler was he wanted to learn mSL
  2341. (19:36:50) (Pain) to make him a bot
  2342. (19:36:54) (Pain) he asked all my friends
  2343. (19:36:58) (Pain) (this hidden opers of bluehell)
  2344. (19:37:01) (Pain) who are masters of mSL
  2345. (19:37:07) (Pain) (the mirc scripting lang)
  2346. (19:37:10) (the_accountant) yea hes telling me about that now
  2347. (19:37:10) (Pain) so when i let him go
  2348. (19:37:13) (the_accountant) ex0a and obiwan
  2349. (19:37:15) (Pain) and my friends all firewalled him
  2350. (19:37:21) (Pain) he copied scripts from hawkee
  2351. (19:37:23) (Pain) thats why he got owned
  2352. (19:37:24) (the_accountant) he sadi raccoon jaytea and sreject showed him everything
  2353. (19:37:33) (Pain) jaytea
  2354. (19:37:35) (Pain) mm
  2355. (19:37:36) (the_accountant) yea he said he threw scripts up because
  2356. (19:37:37) (Pain) i miss him
  2357. (19:37:41) (the_accountant) hes on freenode
  2358. (19:37:43) (the_accountant) #regex
  2359. (19:37:49) (the_accountant) runs the show
  2360. (19:38:02) (Pain) jaytea was on swiftirc, they mostly wrote a lot of mSL code
  2361. (19:38:06) (Pain) i stole one of their opers
  2362. (19:38:07) (Pain) Buildy
  2363. (19:38:12) (Pain) and his friend GvJordan
  2364. (19:38:21) (Pain) we ran 6667.eu
  2365. (19:38:24) (the_accountant) jaytea taught me regex
  2366. (19:38:27) (Pain) this is when wtfux tried to copy out site
  2367. (19:38:29) (the_accountant) in 3 different languages
  2368. (19:38:33) (Pain) and what caused them to get owned
  2369. (19:38:57) (Pain) KnickLighter is who introduced me to the attack research guys
  2370. (19:39:02) (the_accountant) i like him
  2371. (19:39:05) (Pain) and thats how i know key cDc people
  2372. (19:39:07) (the_accountant) i like KL
  2373. (19:39:21) (the_accountant) i met him on swift as well
  2374. (19:39:23) (Pain) while subz is my e-lover, KL is my e-boyfriend
  2375. (19:39:25) (the_accountant) you do know
  2376. (19:39:29) (the_accountant) who hacked swiftirc right
  2377. (19:39:36) (Pain) hahahahahahahahaha
  2378. (19:39:40) (Pain) saved me the trouble
  2379. (19:39:46) (the_accountant) lol
  2380. (19:39:47) (the_accountant) k
  2381. (19:40:01) (Pain) i almost owned them an Abjects at the same time
  2382. (19:40:05) (Pain) Abjects because of lynx's cousin
  2383. (19:40:08) (Pain) Jester
  2384. (19:40:10) (Pain) he was hiding his botnet there
  2385. (19:40:15) (the_accountant) which jester cause
  2386. (19:40:17) (Pain) and the opers didnt care
  2387. (19:40:17) (the_accountant) i hate both of them
  2388. (19:40:20) (the_accountant) thej3st3r
  2389. (19:40:21) (the_accountant) or
  2390. (19:40:22) (the_accountant) Jester
  2391. (19:40:22) (the_accountant) ?
  2392. (19:40:24) (Pain) Devin is his real name
  2393. (19:40:26) (Pain) Jester
  2394. (19:40:28) (the_accountant) Jester of
  2395. (19:40:29) (the_accountant) h4ck3d.us
  2396. (19:40:30) (the_accountant) ?
  2397. (19:40:37) (the_accountant) i owned h4ck3d.us
  2398. (19:40:39) (Pain) idgaf about th3j3st3r, he can suck a railroad spike for all i care
  2399. (19:40:45) (the_accountant) when krahsed
  2400. (19:40:46) (the_accountant) was there
  2401. (19:40:48) (Pain) Jester was an outsider of the bottalk group
  2402. (19:40:50) (the_accountant) he got opper
  2403. (19:40:51) (the_accountant) yea
  2404. (19:40:52) (the_accountant) thats him
  2405. (19:40:57) (Pain) lynx was more involved with bottalk
  2406. (19:41:00) (the_accountant) he made irc.h4cked.us
  2407. (19:41:01) (the_accountant) with fckd
  2408. (19:41:02) (Pain) but Jester followed in secret
  2409. (19:41:03) (the_accountant) i hacked them
  2410. (19:41:07) (the_accountant) it was
  2411. (19:41:10) (the_accountant) jester fckd krashed
  2412. (19:41:15) (the_accountant) some girl
  2413. (19:41:16) (Pain) Devin M. iirc
  2414. (19:41:17) (the_accountant) southern something
  2415. (19:41:20) (Pain) i didnt learn his last name
  2416. (19:41:24) (Pain) Southern_B|tch
  2417. (19:41:27) (the_accountant) yea
  2418. (19:41:27) (Pain) i admin her shit now
  2419. (19:41:34) (Pain) i run all her boxes
  2420. (19:41:41) (the_accountant) including the one connected to her legs?
  2421. (19:41:42) (the_accountant) lol
  2422. (19:41:42) (Pain) shes dumped so many people for me
  2423. (19:41:54) (Pain) she ruined so many friendships
  2424. (19:41:56) (Pain) because of me
  2425. (19:41:59) (Pain) just to keep me around
  2426. (19:42:01) (the_accountant) are you 2 dating or something
  2427. (19:42:09) (Pain) on irc you could surmise that
  2428. (19:42:12) (Pain) but in actuality now
  2429. (19:42:17) (Pain) no*
  2430. (19:42:20) (the_accountant) ah
  2431. (19:42:26) (the_accountant) so same thing her and defiler used to have
  2432. (19:42:31) (the_accountant) until he flipped on her
  2433. (19:42:36) (Pain) just on my dick i guess
  2434. (19:42:39) (the_accountant) yep
  2435. (19:42:41) (the_accountant) that
  2436. (19:42:42) (Pain) yea that was also me
  2437. (19:42:44) (Pain) but she knew about it
  2438. (19:42:50) (Pain) i actually told her before hand
  2439. (19:42:53) (the_accountant) what was also you?
  2440. (19:42:54) (Pain) so she would be prepared
  2441. (19:42:57) (Pain) then went at defiler
  2442. (19:43:03) (the_accountant) what?
  2443. (19:43:03) (the_accountant) lol
  2444. (19:43:05) (Pain) i knew she had defiler on facebook
  2445. (19:43:11) (Pain) and i gave that info to fubar/sav/maze
  2446. (19:43:15) (Pain) and he joined
  2447. (19:43:18) (the_accountant) no she didnt
  2448. (19:43:22) (the_accountant) abdilo got that info
  2449. (19:43:22) (Pain) if you were on insec before it got hacked
  2450. (19:43:31) (Pain) i was the '3 men in a screen'
  2451. (19:43:32) (the_accountant) and it didnt get hacked
  2452. (19:43:34) (Pain) then i gave it t ohim
  2453. (19:43:34) (the_accountant) lol
  2454. (19:43:36) (the_accountant) you are wrong
  2455. (19:43:38) (Pain) i thought it was fubar though
  2456. (19:43:39) (the_accountant) listen ill tell you what happened
  2457. (19:43:42) (the_accountant) NO lol
  2458. (19:43:42) (the_accountant) listen
  2459. (19:43:53) (Pain) cuz we were tyring to dox defiler, and i knew she had him on facebook
  2460. (19:43:54) (the_accountant) abdilo and defiler were calling each other
  2461. (19:43:55) (the_accountant) on the phone
  2462. (19:44:01) (the_accountant) defiler gave abdilo his whatsapp number
  2463. (19:44:08) (the_accountant) his whatsapp was tied to his fb
  2464. (19:44:09) (the_accountant) done
  2465. (19:44:12) (the_accountant) no hacking
  2466. (19:44:21) (the_accountant) a simple phone call
  2467. (19:44:23) (Pain) interesting
  2468. (19:44:24) (the_accountant) to a friend
  2469. (19:44:26) (the_accountant) gave him up
  2470. (19:44:32) (the_accountant) abdilo gave everyone that fb
  2471. (19:44:37) (the_accountant) nobody else ever had defiler's fb
  2472. (19:44:41) (the_accountant) nobody in existence
  2473. (19:44:45) (the_accountant) oh wait he's saying
  2474. (19:44:46) (the_accountant) vein did
  2475. (19:44:51) (Pain) lol veins in jail
  2476. (19:44:54) (Pain) tel lhi mthat
  2477. (19:44:54) (the_accountant) what
  2478. (19:44:59) (Pain) he was set up in a drug deal
  2479. (19:45:01) (Pain) he needs ot knwo that
  2480. (19:45:05) (Pain) and MIKEJONEZ is AWOL atm
  2481. (19:45:10) (Pain) he likes vein and MJ
  2482. (19:45:13) (Pain) tel lhi mthat
  2483. (19:45:18) (the_accountant) oh shit dude hes fuckin flippin
  2484. (19:45:25) (the_accountant) apparently he loves vein like a brother
  2485. (19:45:29) (Pain) yep
  2486. (19:45:35) (Pain) i dont know the full details
  2487. (19:45:38) (the_accountant) can you get info for his books
  2488. (19:45:41) (the_accountant) hes got his name
  2489. (19:45:44) (the_accountant) do you have the jail?
  2490. (19:45:45) (Pain) just that he was in jail because of a CI in a drug deal
  2491. (19:45:50) (Pain) i can ask
  2492. (19:45:56) (Pain) im sure chrono knows
  2493. (19:46:01) (the_accountant) wait, he didnt get mixed up with ralph did he
  2494. (19:46:01) (Pain) vein is ex-g0t
  2495. (19:46:03) (the_accountant) xanax ralph
  2496. (19:46:05) (Pain) they all know each others info
  2497. (19:46:09) (the_accountant) king ralph
  2498. (19:46:12) (the_accountant) xanax king
  2499. (19:46:15) (Pain) why does that ring a bell
  2500. (19:46:17) (the_accountant) please god i hope not
  2501. (19:46:19) (the_accountant) it was
  2502. (19:46:21) (the_accountant) how w0ne went to prison
  2503. (19:46:26) (the_accountant) he sent w0ne 15 thousand bars
  2504. (19:46:29) (Pain) i dont kno OH MY FUCKING GOD
  2505. (19:46:30) (the_accountant) and chrono called cops
  2506. (19:46:31) (Pain) THAT MORON
  2507. (19:46:33) (Pain) HAHAHAHAHAHA
  2508. (19:46:36) (the_accountant) cause w0ne took pics
  2509. (19:46:40) (Pain) fuck w0ne man.
  2510. (19:46:42) (Pain) i know
  2511. (19:46:42) (the_accountant) chrono told cops where w0ne was located
  2512. (19:46:44) (Pain) he posted a video
  2513. (19:46:46) (the_accountant) they did this
  2514. (19:46:47) (Pain) of a rap video
  2515. (19:46:47) (the_accountant) cause of defiler
  2516. (19:46:50) (the_accountant) thast how much they hate defiler
  2517. (19:46:52) (the_accountant) they jailed one of his friends
  2518. (19:46:53) (Pain) that filmed in his apt complex pking lot
  2519. (19:46:59) (Pain) and bragged about how his apt was in that video
  2520. (19:47:03) (Pain) then posted pics of himself
  2521. (19:47:12) (the_accountant) that was defiler's loyal die hard youngin
  2522. (19:47:16) (Pain) thats how i thought he got caught
  2523. (19:47:18) (the_accountant) and they threw him in jail
  2524. (19:47:22) (Pain) hes a fuckin tool
  2525. (19:47:23) (Pain) through and through
  2526. (19:47:25) (the_accountant) he was
  2527. (19:47:26) (the_accountant) but
  2528. (19:47:31) (the_accountant) ive never seen someone so loyal
  2529. (19:47:32) (Pain) born, bred and lived
  2530. (19:47:33) (the_accountant) to 1 person in my life
  2531. (19:47:38) (Pain) me either, though i wont lie
  2532. (19:47:44) (the_accountant) he was so dedicated to defiler
  2533. (19:47:49) (the_accountant) i have no idea how that bond was so tight
  2534. (19:47:54) (the_accountant) cause w0ne is such an idiot
  2535. (19:48:13) (Pain) giving w0ne power is like giving a newborn a handgun
  2536. (19:48:15) (the_accountant) ok so the thing is
  2537. (19:48:15) (Pain) it wont end well
  2538. (19:48:17) (the_accountant) ralph
  2539. (19:48:24) (the_accountant) hes the guy we met from black market
  2540. (19:48:28) (the_accountant) xanax vendor
  2541. (19:48:31) (Pain) just so we're clear here this isnt el8 ralph right?
  2542. (19:48:32) (the_accountant) had millions of xanax
  2543. (19:48:33) (Pain) r4lph
  2544. (19:48:34) (the_accountant) he couldnt let go
  2545. (19:48:36) (the_accountant) im worried
  2546. (19:48:40) (the_accountant) its not el8 ralph no
  2547. (19:48:43) (the_accountant) this guy was a hick moron
  2548. (19:48:44) (Pain) ok
  2549. (19:48:49) (the_accountant) who couldnt speak english hardly
  2550. (19:48:53) (Pain) well that fits r4lph
  2551. (19:48:54) (the_accountant) mostly inbred hick
  2552. (19:48:56) (Pain) lol
  2553. (19:48:56) (the_accountant) and was begging for dealers
  2554. (19:48:58) (Pain) not the speaking part
  2555. (19:48:59) (the_accountant) i think
  2556. (19:49:00) (Pain) the hick part
  2557. (19:49:01) (the_accountant) w0ne went to jail
  2558. (19:49:02) (Pain) but go on
  2559. (19:49:09) (the_accountant) and
  2560. (19:49:17) (the_accountant) since me and vein knew ralph
  2561. (19:49:20) (the_accountant) vein hit ralph up
  2562. (19:49:22) (the_accountant) im sure of it
  2563. (19:49:25) (the_accountant) and told him he'd take the packs on
  2564. (19:49:28) (the_accountant) cause vein was doing this before
  2565. (19:49:33) (the_accountant) me and vein and someone else had a bitcoin ring
  2566. (19:49:34) (the_accountant) going on
  2567. (19:49:37) (the_accountant) im not sure if you ever knew about that
  2568. (19:49:39) (the_accountant) nobody did
  2569. (19:49:53) (the_accountant) well you know defiler i can say him now
  2570. (19:49:59) (the_accountant) me vein and defiler had a little btc ring
  2571. (19:50:02) (Pain) no
  2572. (19:50:20) (the_accountant) ok so we had a
  2573. (19:50:25) (the_accountant) fake silk road site
  2574. (19:50:35) (the_accountant) and we were phishing out vendors and buyers, thats all
  2575. (19:50:40) (the_accountant) we just had a nice systematic approach
  2576. (19:50:46) (the_accountant) and got 80,000$ in 2 weeks
  2577. (19:51:01) (the_accountant) myg0t knows about it
  2578. (19:51:43) (Pain) so that was you
  2579. (19:51:48) (Pain) i know about the fake silk road
  2580. (19:51:52) (the_accountant) yea
  2581. (19:52:03) (the_accountant) and the fake black market reloaded
  2582. (19:52:04) (Pain) me and abdilo tried to hack dream market
  2583. (19:52:11) (the_accountant) yea i showed abdilo all of this
  2584. (19:52:13) (the_accountant) and sav
  2585. (19:52:14) (Pain) we hacked an entire south african isp
  2586. (19:52:16) (Pain) and found nothing
  2587. (19:52:37) (the_accountant) lol
  2588. (19:52:52) (Pain) got a lot of fbsd boxes though
  2589. (19:52:54) (Pain) :D
  2590. (19:52:56) (Pain) (love fbsd)
  2591. (19:53:01) (Pain) (ill tell anyone who listens)
  2592. (19:53:02) (the_accountant) yea cause of the shortage of code
  2593. (19:53:05) (the_accountant) and hardly any shit changes
  2594. (19:53:14) (Pain) you fuqin know it brother
  2595. (19:53:16) (the_accountant) easiest kernel to hack in the world
  2596. (19:53:48) (the_accountant) its so funny how openbsd is completely not like that
  2597. (19:53:49) (the_accountant) lol
  2598. (19:54:24) (Pain) thats what you thuink
  2599. (19:54:28) (Pain) what'd you thin kthat 0day was for?
  2600. (19:54:33) (Pain) :P
  2601. (19:54:58) (the_accountant) fresh freebsd install with all patches?
  2602. (19:55:17) (Pain) "no remote holes in the default install"
  2603. (19:55:22) (Pain) this is in the default install
  2604. (19:55:26) (Pain) and is remote
  2605. (19:55:31) (the_accountant) lol yea i just found that earlier cause you guys were chatting on it publicly
  2606. (19:55:34) (the_accountant) i didnt know thats waht u were talking about
  2607. (19:55:35) (the_accountant) :P
  2608. (19:55:44) (the_accountant) i found that already lol my b
  2609. (19:55:50) (Pain) the 0day i have for freebsd stays with me
  2610. (19:55:56) (Pain) i think anyone with a brain stem can figure them out
  2611. (19:55:59) (Pain) if you read long enough
  2612. (19:56:03) (the_accountant) yea i found the vuln
  2613. (19:56:05) (the_accountant) i havent exploited it
  2614. (19:56:06) (the_accountant) im working on it
  2615. (19:56:13) (Pain) lattera has done a good job of pointing some of them out
  2616. (19:56:18) (the_accountant) i saw that guy this morning in security
  2617. (19:56:26) (Pain) lattera == soldierx lattera == hardenedbsd Shawn Lattera
  2618. (19:56:32) (Pain) my guy had his dox before he mad HBSD
  2619. (19:56:36) (Pain) we owned him secretly
  2620. (19:56:40) (Pain) just to let him know the order of things
  2621. (19:56:47) (Pain) sorry
  2622. (19:56:50) (Pain) Shawn Webb
  2623. (19:56:58) (the_accountant) lol
  2624. (19:57:18) (Pain) you can secure bsd all you want
  2625. (19:57:19) (the_accountant) thats awesome
  2626. (19:57:21) (Pain) but we wil lalways own you
  2627. (19:57:28) (the_accountant) yea i steer clear of bsd
  2628. (19:57:32) (Pain) dont
  2629. (19:57:34) (the_accountant) thats the first hting i learned to hack on a kernel level
  2630. (19:57:35) (Pain) its more seure than linux
  2631. (19:57:42) (Pain) secure
  2632. (19:57:47) (the_accountant) not all linux distros
  2633. (19:57:56) (the_accountant) there are some more secure architectures with sandboxing galore
  2634. (19:58:03) (Pain) ubuntu is pretty tight i nthe default install, i do admit that
  2635. (19:58:06) (Pain) but you wont find me using it
  2636. (19:58:15) (the_accountant) you need to go more autistic than that
  2637. (19:58:17) (the_accountant) qubes...
  2638. (19:58:22) (Pain) qubes is fun
  2639. (19:58:27) (Pain) i love qubes
  2640. (19:58:30) (the_accountant) qubes is fun as fuck, the HVM's are amazing
  2641. (19:58:32) (the_accountant) and PVM's
  2642. (19:58:38) (the_accountant) i love that dom0 feel
  2643. (19:58:40) (Pain) the was the last thing we showed abdilo
  2644. (19:58:43) (Pain) and he installed it
  2645. (19:58:45) (the_accountant) i used qubes and i3wm
  2646. (19:58:47) (Pain) thats the last time i spoke to him
  2647. (19:58:51) (Pain) almost a year and a half ago
  2648. (19:58:53) (Pain) at this point
  2649. (19:59:20) (the_accountant) hes not coming back man he toyed with them when he got arrested for being a skid and they let him go because of that too
  2650. (19:59:32) (Pain) we were wondering
  2651. (19:59:34) (the_accountant) on paper he almost sounds like an elite hacker breaking into tons of govt and .mil boxes
  2652. (19:59:40) (the_accountant) but it was all by google dorking sqli's
  2653. (19:59:44) (Pain) yea, he does lol
  2654. (19:59:46) (Pain) and i know
  2655. (19:59:52) (Pain) we were showing him shit
  2656. (19:59:57) (Pain) before he disappeared
  2657. (20:00:03) (the_accountant) yall showed him that?
  2658. (20:00:05) (Pain) he had some 0day for esx we wrote
  2659. (20:00:06) (the_accountant) thats disappointing
  2660. (20:00:10) (the_accountant) i thought he actually knew some shit
  2661. (20:00:14) (Pain) :)
  2662. (20:00:26) (Pain) pawns my friend
  2663. (20:00:29) (the_accountant) no wonder MLT was the marksman for sqli
  2664. (20:00:33) (the_accountant) on my team
  2665. (20:00:35) (the_accountant) and abdilo wasnt
  2666. (20:00:36) (the_accountant) lol
  2667. (20:00:42) (the_accountant) i was starting to say abdilo is smart too
  2668. (20:00:43) (the_accountant) to other people
  2669. (20:00:45) (the_accountant) you fucker man
  2670. (20:00:46) (the_accountant) lol
  2671. (20:00:53) (Pain) hes very good at being a dumbass
  2672. (20:01:00) (Pain) if hes smart hes smart in the dumb ways
  2673. (20:01:06) (Pain) again he automated some shit for us
  2674. (20:01:18) (Pain) 20 minutes we had a bash script scanning the entire internet
  2675. (20:01:21) (the_accountant) i think the biggest difference between you and defiler
  2676. (20:01:27) (Pain) (its what the bash script called is important, not the bash script itsself)
  2677. (20:01:28) (the_accountant) you had a grip on legit computer shit
  2678. (20:01:41) (the_accountant) defiler dived into hacking first right after learning how to secure himself
  2679. (20:02:16) (Pain) i didnt learn how to secure myself
  2680. (20:02:23) (Pain) but i learned how to make it seem like people dont really know me
  2681. (20:02:31) (Pain) while people do know my real name
  2682. (20:02:34) (Pain) they arent certain of it
  2683. (20:02:39) (Pain) thats by design
  2684. (20:02:49) (the_accountant) defiler has that same thing going on apparently
  2685. (20:03:02) (Pain) though thats what i said earlier about coming after me
  2686. (20:03:02) (the_accountant) people think they have his last name
  2687. (20:03:08) (the_accountant) brandon is his name but not even his first name
  2688. (20:03:14) (Pain) i can flip a switch, dead this shit and be out the door in less than 2 minutes
  2689. (20:03:23) (Pain) and i didnt exist after
  2690. (20:03:35) (Pain) this is all by design
  2691. (20:03:41) (Pain) i can drop it and walk away at anytime
  2692. (20:03:45) (Pain) i just dont
  2693. (20:03:48) (the_accountant) same
  2694. (20:04:03) (the_accountant) but im not after anyone atm
  2695. (20:04:14) (the_accountant) im trying to see whos cool and willing to come around defiler atm
  2696. (20:04:15) (Pain) me either
  2697. (20:04:18) (the_accountant) to see how many people i can get together
  2698. (20:04:22) (Pain) ill bite
  2699. (20:04:28) (Pain) but like i said dont expect it to go how you want
  2700. (20:04:37) (Pain) theres bad blood there that has to be resolved first
  2701. (20:04:41) (Pain) you've calmed me down
  2702. (20:04:43) (Pain) i will admit
  2703. (20:04:54) (Pain) but like i said some things are inexcusable
  2704. (20:05:10) (the_accountant) he could say the same
  2705. (20:05:14) (the_accountant) and that you werent part of those things
  2706. (20:05:17) (Pain) ive realized that things are not what they seem
  2707. (20:05:22) (the_accountant) and none of that was aimed at you
  2708. (20:05:34) (the_accountant) even the holding the ircd over your head thing
  2709. (20:05:38) (the_accountant) you're saying he was never in the ircd, he was
  2710. (20:05:47) (the_accountant) i just told you how he got access and how he joined
  2711. (20:05:49) (Pain) why
  2712. (20:05:52) (Pain) on gods green earht
  2713. (20:05:55) (the_accountant) the port was like 45636 or some shit
  2714. (20:05:55) (Pain) would el8
  2715. (20:05:57) (Pain) he said el8
  2716. (20:05:59) (Pain) not el9
  2717. (20:06:00) (the_accountant) its not el8
  2718. (20:06:01) (Pain) el8
  2719. (20:06:03) (Pain) be on IRC
  2720. (20:06:17) (the_accountant) it was el9 and some guys were from el8 that were in there
  2721. (20:06:19) (the_accountant) like xile
  2722. (20:06:27) (the_accountant) that group was the closest to el8 youll ever get
  2723. (20:06:32) (Pain) xile yes
  2724. (20:06:35) (Pain) i know of his work
  2725. (20:06:38) (Pain) hes a methed out freak now
  2726. (20:06:43) (Pain) i wouldnt give hi mthe time of day
  2727. (20:06:49) (Pain) he comes on velo sometimes
  2728. (20:06:53) (the_accountant) i know hes out of his mind but he laid one golden goose
  2729. (20:06:56) (the_accountant) before he methed out
  2730. (20:06:56) (Pain) him and the real ret
  2731. (20:07:09) (the_accountant) he found a beauty in hte google app engine
  2732. (20:07:15) (Pain) he told me
  2733. (20:07:18) (the_accountant) i found it
  2734. (20:07:20) (Pain) i honestly didnt care htne or now
  2735. (20:07:20) (the_accountant) lol
  2736. (20:07:27) (the_accountant) its scary
  2737. (20:07:31) (Pain) not because that xile found it and he passed it off as his
  2738. (20:07:32) (the_accountant) its more power than you want
  2739. (20:07:37) (the_accountant) especially from google
  2740. (20:07:37) (Pain) just that i dont care about google in any capacity
  2741. (20:07:47) (the_accountant) lets just say
  2742. (20:07:54) (Pain) he told me some specifics about it
  2743. (20:07:57) (Pain) but not enough to find it myself
  2744. (20:08:01) (the_accountant) do you remember when defiler had the biggest botnet and linked it up with forte, ayocaine, and syn
  2745. (20:08:10) (the_accountant) krashed then said
  2746. (20:08:13) (the_accountant) he had access to it
  2747. (20:08:15) (Pain) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
  2748. (20:08:18) (the_accountant) and said it was the most powerful thing in the world
  2749. (20:08:18) (Pain) now i know you're lying
  2750. (20:08:22) (the_accountant) no this isnt a lie
  2751. (20:08:28) (Pain) brother
  2752. (20:08:29) (the_accountant) aush0k kept sayig he gave him roots
  2753. (20:08:33) (Pain) syn aint seen power like that
  2754. (20:08:33) (the_accountant) listen, i can tell you this story
  2755. (20:08:37) (Pain) a day in his motherfucking life
  2756. (20:08:38) (the_accountant) he did
  2757. (20:08:41) (Pain) ill take that oteh grave
  2758. (20:08:41) (the_accountant) for a couple of days
  2759. (20:08:44) (the_accountant) i swear on my life
  2760. (20:08:44) (the_accountant) listen
  2761. (20:08:49) (the_accountant) december of 2017
  2762. (20:08:56) (the_accountant) the december of the fall of storm
  2763. (20:09:06) (the_accountant) thats when the entire internet fell off the wall
  2764. (20:09:10) (Pain) yep
  2765. (20:09:11) (the_accountant) they dropped ovh and ramnode at the same time
  2766. (20:09:12) (Pain) i was there
  2767. (20:09:15) (Pain) in a lesser capacity
  2768. (20:09:16) (the_accountant) that was all defiler
  2769. (20:09:20) (the_accountant) how do i know?
  2770. (20:09:22) (the_accountant) cause it was my roots
  2771. (20:09:27) (the_accountant) from google app engine
  2772. (20:09:46) (the_accountant) defiler found the vuln first, i wrote the exploit
  2773. (20:09:51) (Pain) so this poses just one question and one alone
  2774. (20:09:56) (the_accountant) and defiler used the exploit
  2775. (20:10:10) (Pain) if you're a few stages higher in the food chain, why even entertain the though of defiler
  2776. (20:10:13) (Pain) even though you have seen
  2777. (20:10:16) (Pain) the literal onslaught
  2778. (20:10:22) (Pain) of the shit storm he made for himself
  2779. (20:10:28) (the_accountant) this guy has a sense of loyalty that is unseen
  2780. (20:10:34) (the_accountant) if you dont cross him he will NOT cross you
  2781. (20:10:36) (Pain) he does have that..
  2782. (20:10:45) (the_accountant) he will go to war for you
  2783. (20:10:45) (Pain) thats why he hasnt fucked with me
  2784. (20:10:48) (Pain) because until this PM
  2785. (20:10:51) (the_accountant) on every edge of the fucking earth
  2786. (20:10:52) (Pain) he had no idea it was me
  2787. (20:10:57) (Pain) im the very same
  2788. (20:11:05) (Pain) there is not legnth that i wont go
  2789. (20:11:07) (the_accountant) and yea i havent told him anything was you
  2790. (20:11:07) (the_accountant) yet
  2791. (20:11:08) (Pain) to achieve something
  2792. (20:11:12) (the_accountant) should i?
  2793. (20:11:13) (the_accountant) lol
  2794. (20:11:23) (Pain) you or me
  2795. (20:11:27) (Pain) flip a coin
  2796. (20:11:28) (Pain) dont tell me
  2797. (20:11:34) (the_accountant) nah ill just let you do it
  2798. (20:11:36) (the_accountant) its not my place
  2799. (20:11:42) (the_accountant) i just saw you ruin his internet life
  2800. (20:11:48) (Pain) he'll soon realize the depth of my involvement
  2801. (20:11:48) (the_accountant) im not going to explain it to him
  2802. (20:12:04) (Pain) this is why you dont fuck with my friends
  2803. (20:12:08) (Pain) but now im eve nquestioning that
  2804. (20:12:13) (the_accountant) well at the same time
  2805. (20:12:19) (the_accountant) he's got logs of you saying you will kill yourself cause of him
  2806. (20:12:21) (the_accountant) so in honesty
  2807. (20:12:25) (the_accountant) you guys kinda duked it out
  2808. (20:12:27) (the_accountant) a bit there
  2809. (20:12:31) (the_accountant) seems like he got you too, not sure what he did
  2810. (20:12:34) (Pain) i have to see that log
  2811. (20:12:36) (Pain) i dont recal lthat
  2812. (20:12:44) (the_accountant) some crypticlarity log
  2813. (20:12:46) (the_accountant) he left his bot in there
  2814. (20:12:52) (the_accountant) you gzlined him
  2815. (20:12:54) (the_accountant) but not his bot
  2816. (20:13:02) (Pain) Fuck.
  2817. (20:13:03) (the_accountant) and you said you will kill yourself if you ever have to talk to him again
  2818. (20:13:08) (the_accountant) some shit like that
  2819. (20:13:18) (the_accountant) you said he made your life living hell
  2820. (20:13:18) (Pain) i..
  2821. (20:13:21) (Pain) sounds like me
  2822. (20:13:22) (the_accountant) and taht you couldnt ever come back from it
  2823. (20:13:24) (Pain) no
  2824. (20:13:26) (the_accountant) and that you would murder him
  2825. (20:13:27) (Pain) well yes
  2826. (20:13:29) (the_accountant) bare hands
  2827. (20:13:29) (Pain) but no
  2828. (20:13:30) (the_accountant) if you saw him
  2829. (20:13:31) (the_accountant) lol
  2830. (20:13:41) (Pain) goddamn im violent
  2831. (20:13:42) (the_accountant) he holds that log high
  2832. (20:13:44) (the_accountant) like a win
  2833. (20:13:44) (Pain) i remember that
  2834. (20:13:47) (the_accountant) lol
  2835. (20:13:56) (Pain) not an exact quoting
  2836. (20:13:58) (Pain) but i remember it now
  2837. (20:14:02) (Pain) i went the fuck off
  2838. (20:14:03) (the_accountant) its not exact you're right
  2839. (20:14:05) (Pain) on both him and syn
  2840. (20:14:07) (the_accountant) yea you did
  2841. (20:14:20) (Pain) i threatened to rm everyone who ever tlaked to syn
  2842. (20:14:24) (Pain) for HIS MOTHERFUCKING INSOLENCE
  2843. (20:14:28) (Pain) but hey, tomato tamato
  2844. (20:14:30) (the_accountant) lol
  2845. (20:14:59) (Pain) his fucking
  2846. (20:15:02) (Pain) cum lappers
  2847. (20:15:06) (Pain) the bitches who fondle his dicks
  2848. (20:15:10) (Pain) tried to come on southerns net
  2849. (20:15:14) (Pain) while i was spurging
  2850. (20:15:17) (Pain) and say 'you've lost it'
  2851. (20:15:21) (Pain) while in PM i was getting
  2852. (20:15:23) (Pain) from them
  2853. (20:15:26) (Pain) 'he told me to join and say that'
  2854. (20:15:30) (Pain) bitches love me
  2855. (20:15:34) (the_accountant) lol
  2856. (20:15:41) (the_accountant) triflers!
  2857. (20:16:17) (Pain) i almsot had syn dead to rites
  2858. (20:16:23) (Pain) until storm retired
  2859. (20:16:28) (Pain) my plan was coming together
  2860. (20:16:32) (Pain) and thrown off by jordan
  2861. (20:16:43) (the_accountant) syn will always hate and its because he got caught
  2862. (20:16:46) (the_accountant) being the biggest skid on earth
  2863. (20:16:54) (Pain) i tried to show him the light
  2864. (20:16:58) (Pain) i told him things ot be more quiet
  2865. (20:17:01) (Pain) he was very very loud
  2866. (20:17:02) (the_accountant) aush0k gave syn
  2867. (20:17:06) (Pain) but he threw me under the bus
  2868. (20:17:06) (the_accountant) this bash exploit
  2869. (20:17:09) (the_accountant) for gravity_forms
  2870. (20:17:12) (Pain) and that has consequences
  2871. (20:17:16) (the_accountant) they woulda had 50 roots in seconds
  2872. (20:17:17) (the_accountant) no problems
  2873. (20:17:22) (the_accountant) syn was the main one handling it
  2874. (20:17:25) (the_accountant) he couldnt drop the file
  2875. (20:17:34) (the_accountant) nor could he privilege escalate
  2876. (20:17:35) (Pain) if you want to spy on him
  2877. (20:17:36) (the_accountant) to root
  2878. (20:17:38) (Pain) though he might know
  2879. (20:17:39) (Pain) hacking.chat
  2880. (20:17:52) (the_accountant) it took
  2881. (20:17:53) (the_accountant) him, forte
  2882. (20:17:54) (Pain) is Spikes network but him and syn are like a bunch of bananas
  2883. (20:17:57) (the_accountant) and finally ayocaine came in
  2884. (20:18:01) (the_accountant) and helped them with permissions
  2885. (20:18:02) (the_accountant) rofl
  2886. (20:18:09) (the_accountant) ayocaine was the one that dropped the file
  2887. (20:18:18) (the_accountant) after tweedle dee and tweedle dumb couldnt do it
  2888. (20:18:18) (Pain) tell defiler im less interested in him and more into syn
  2889. (20:18:24) (Pain) and thats his only saving grace
  2890. (20:18:27) (Pain) by you tlakign to me
  2891. (20:18:34) (the_accountant) you guys may collaborate on that probably
  2892. (20:18:35) (Pain) becuase you shifted the snipers scope
  2893. (20:18:36) (the_accountant) hes after syn too
  2894. (20:18:38) (Pain) only 2 feet
  2895. (20:18:52) (the_accountant) lol
  2896. (20:18:57) (the_accountant) saving lives!
  2897. (20:19:08) (Pain) i could hack syn right now
  2898. (20:19:12) (Pain) but im waiting for him to fuck up
  2899. (20:19:18) (Pain) i shouldnt have to wait long
  2900. (20:19:22) (the_accountant) nope
  2901. (20:19:28) (the_accountant) and putting him in his place publicly
  2902. (20:19:36) (the_accountant) grade A shit right there
  2903. (20:19:47) (Pain) im not going to take him down a peg or two
  2904. (20:19:52) (the_accountant) cant do it with nobody around
  2905. (20:19:55) (the_accountant) he will deny it
  2906. (20:19:55) (Pain) he needs to be royally owned
  2907. (20:20:00) (the_accountant) like he does that exploit we gave him
  2908. (20:20:03) (Pain) i mean full on owned
  2909. (20:20:06) (the_accountant) ayocaine may even tell you
  2910. (20:20:12) (Pain) everything every box, every root
  2911. (20:20:13) (the_accountant) it took ayocaine's help for them to do it
  2912. (20:20:14) (Pain) even his friends
  2913. (20:20:17) (Pain) im out for blood with him
  2914. (20:20:26) (Pain) ayocaine quit irc
  2915. (20:20:30) (the_accountant) didnt he lose all his roots after that uh
  2916. (20:20:31) (Pain) him and creative/geekgirl
  2917. (20:20:36) (the_accountant) wtf was it they were using metasploit for
  2918. (20:20:39) (the_accountant) i fuckin forget
  2919. (20:20:42) (Pain) i have over 300 of syns old roots
  2920. (20:20:42) (the_accountant) krashed started using it
  2921. (20:20:45) (Pain) java_rmi
  2922. (20:20:46) (the_accountant) yes
  2923. (20:20:47) (the_accountant) rmi
  2924. (20:20:50) (Pain) krashed taught syn how to use it
  2925. (20:20:54) (the_accountant) ROFL
  2926. (20:20:54) (Pain) then syn taught me
  2927. (20:20:57) (the_accountant) are you serious
  2928. (20:20:57) (Pain) i stole his boxes
  2929. (20:21:01) (Pain) and pivoted nearly all of them
  2930. (20:21:03) (the_accountant) krashed showed syn? lmao
  2931. (20:21:08) (Pain) i own seriously 1/5th of the itnernet right now
  2932. (20:21:09) (the_accountant) i thought syn found that
  2933. (20:21:10) (Pain) becaue of syn
  2934. (20:21:14) (Pain) nerp
  2935. (20:21:20) (the_accountant) he had that ages ago
  2936. (20:21:23) (Pain) he had no idesa what he gave me
  2937. (20:21:33) (Pain) and now i own most of asia right now
  2938. (20:21:34) (the_accountant) i took his spyro network
  2939. (20:21:38) (the_accountant) he got mad at taht
  2940. (20:21:42) (the_accountant) that shit had hella amp heat
  2941. (20:21:42) (Pain) for me to ddos someone would shut down half the internet
  2942. (20:21:54) (Pain) this si why i dont ddos
  2943. (20:22:00) (the_accountant) tell me about it
  2944. (20:22:04) (Pain) we're actually looking into a major backbone host in europe atm
  2945. (20:22:05) (the_accountant) i did one little move gave it to defiler
  2946. (20:22:08) (the_accountant) he took out all of ovh and ramnode
  2947. (20:22:13) (the_accountant) and could ahve kept hitting networks
  2948. (20:22:15) (Pain) so that will make 2/5ths of the internet
  2949. (20:22:21) (the_accountant) with 1/100th of the power i can achieve
  2950. (20:22:28) (Pain) i dont fuck around man, no one knows what i do in secret
  2951. (20:22:31) (Pain) and i keep it that way
  2952. (20:22:40) (the_accountant) how it should be
  2953. (20:22:49) (the_accountant) cant forget that rule man
  2954. (20:23:06) (the_accountant) if you ever call yourself elite or talk about how good you are, blackball
  2955. (20:23:19) (Pain) if you think im a fed, then ive been doing wrong
  2956. (20:23:19) (Pain) i dont want you to think of me as a fed
  2957. (20:23:19) (Pain) or a hacker
  2958. (20:23:19) (Pain) i want you totthink of me as someone who can shut your entire life off with a bash script
  2959. (20:23:21) (the_accountant) especially if you arent in there actively working iwth other people
  2960. (20:23:29) (the_accountant) nah i dont think of you as a fed man
  2961. (20:23:34) (Pain) ssh root@* rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
  2962. (20:23:49) (the_accountant) i like shred -fuzn
  2963. (20:23:56) (Pain) vuzn*
  2964. (20:23:58) (Pain) :P
  2965. (20:23:59) (the_accountant) vuzn sure
  2966. (20:24:00) (the_accountant) lol
  2967. (20:24:04) (Pain) i loke to see your bits scrolling off my screen
  2968. (20:24:06) (Pain) like
  2969. (20:24:20) (Pain) but yea
  2970. (20:24:25) (Pain) this is why i dont tlak about anything
  2971. (20:24:27) (the_accountant) i know u do a little dabbling here and there
  2972. (20:24:27) (the_accountant) but
  2973. (20:24:30) (the_accountant) have you ever actually
  2974. (20:24:33) (Pain) so to not get blackballed further
  2975. (20:24:37) (the_accountant) exploited a bof?
  2976. (20:24:40) (the_accountant) on your own?
  2977. (20:24:43) (the_accountant) that shit is fucking BEAUTIFUL
  2978. (20:24:46) (Pain) only you and defielr know this
  2979. (20:24:53) (Pain) i havent hacked or rooted a single box in my entire life
  2980. (20:24:58) (Pain) everything ive had was given to me
  2981. (20:25:05) (Pain) and i gave it to highly select people
  2982. (20:25:08) (Pain) who've pivoted
  2983. (20:25:10) (Pain) and gained more
  2984. (20:25:22) (the_accountant) well you can say if you've exploited a bof
  2985. (20:25:26) (Pain) ive elevated so many people its not funny anymore
  2986. (20:25:35) (Pain) and syn was one i tried with
  2987. (20:25:37) (Pain) but he didnt get it
  2988. (20:25:41) (Pain) he was stuck i nhis ways
  2989. (20:25:43) (Pain) and thats his downfall
  2990. (20:25:50) (the_accountant) if you havent you at least need to setup a VM
  2991. (20:25:52) (the_accountant) run a program
  2992. (20:25:54) (the_accountant) and pop it yourself
  2993. (20:25:58) (the_accountant) even though you know itll work
  2994. (20:26:00) (the_accountant) you need to do this man
  2995. (20:26:12) (the_accountant) the effect and the love that comes from it
  2996. (20:26:22) (the_accountant) watching all those symbols scroll across
  2997. (20:26:27) (the_accountant) then sliding down and dropping shell literally
  2998. (20:26:44) (Pain) havent exploited or rooted a box, written a single piece of code, not eve ngiven my best ideas to people i hold in an extremely high regard
  2999. (20:26:48) (Pain) im not done yet
  3000. (20:26:53) (Pain) im nto even warmed up
  3001. (20:27:13) (Pain) i was waiting
  3002. (20:27:16) (Pain) to join the greatness
  3003. (20:27:18) (Pain) then explode
  3004. (20:27:22) (Pain) but it doesnt work like that
  3005. (20:27:24) (Pain) you need to be vetted
  3006. (20:27:28) (Pain) and they are always watching
  3007. (20:27:40) (the_accountant) you'd have to pull in like defiler and do a righteous hack
  3008. (20:27:46) (the_accountant) he wasnt vetted
  3009. (20:27:54) (the_accountant) but he did gain access to a lot of places he never should have gotten
  3010. (20:28:08) (the_accountant) through a couple of decent hacks, not amazing, just decent
  3011. (20:28:19) (the_accountant) he didnt route efnet's traffic to his servers, that was a loss.
  3012. (20:28:28) (the_accountant) he didn't rm efnet, loss.
  3013. (20:28:37) (the_accountant) he didn't rm iptorrents, loss
  3014. (20:28:57) (the_accountant) but actually gaining access and toying with their servers
  3015. (20:29:01) (the_accountant) cahnging configurations and just fucking with them
  3016. (20:29:04) (the_accountant) got him in
  3017. (20:29:29) (Pain) im not sdhutting down half the itnernet to gain favor with those who dont know i exist
  3018. (20:29:40) (the_accountant) and did yokai really take credit
  3019. (20:29:43) (the_accountant) for the efnet data breach?
  3020. (20:29:47) (the_accountant) cause that's going to piss me off
  3021. (20:30:15) (the_accountant) i dont like when people who have respect
  3022. (20:30:19) (the_accountant) take credit for work that isnt theirs
  3023. (20:30:30) (the_accountant) especially when the person that did it can't go against yokai and say it was him
  3024. (20:30:34) (the_accountant) whos gonna believe him over yokai
  3025. (20:30:40) (the_accountant) thats foul play man
  3026. (20:30:51) (the_accountant) in all honesty you need to tell me if yokai said that
  3027. (20:30:53) (the_accountant) im going to get him removed
  3028. (20:31:01) (the_accountant) from any type of respect aura he may have around him
  3029. (20:31:20) (the_accountant) he was a paranoid little bitch while efnet was getting hacked
  3030. (20:32:05) (the_accountant) defiler has proof of all of this
  3031. (20:32:06) (Pain) the fourms that defiler hacked
  3032. (20:32:09) (Pain) is not what yokai hacked
  3033. (20:32:16) (Pain) yokai hacked their nameservers
  3034. (20:32:19) (Pain) read 2l8.txt
  3035. (20:32:21) (Pain) its al lthere
  3036. (20:32:25) (the_accountant) ok so thats a diff time
  3037. (20:32:28) (the_accountant) the data breach
  3038. (20:32:33) (Pain) 09ish
  3039. (20:32:36) (Pain) i nthat timefrma
  3040. (20:32:37) (the_accountant) started with the forums
  3041. (20:32:38) (Pain) e
  3042. (20:32:42) (Pain) yea
  3043. (20:32:43) (the_accountant) and ended up with full access
  3044. (20:32:47) (the_accountant) cause the guy had the same pw
  3045. (20:32:49) (the_accountant) for everything
  3046. (20:32:49) (the_accountant) lmao
  3047. (20:32:59) (the_accountant) and douglas boldt
  3048. (20:33:06) (the_accountant) we have efnet owners passport
  3049. (20:33:09) (the_accountant) and lass 4 of his credit card
  3050. (20:33:14) (the_accountant) we can take efnet domain at any time
  3051. (20:33:16) (Pain) boldt
  3052. (20:33:17) (Pain) boldt.net?
  3053. (20:33:25) (the_accountant) douglas boldt i think is his last name
  3054. (20:33:33) (the_accountant) i dont have teh passport anymore, i can get it
  3055. (20:33:34) (Pain) i think i almsot owned that one time
  3056. (20:33:37) (Pain) not knowing it was him
  3057. (20:33:40) (the_accountant) guess who got it
  3058. (20:33:44) (the_accountant) Zuhnny
  3059. (20:33:47) (the_accountant) do you know taht guy
  3060. (20:33:47) (Pain) probably nto the same guy
  3061. (20:33:47) (the_accountant) lmao
  3062. (20:33:55) (Pain) ive see nthat nick, but dont know it
  3063. (20:34:05) (the_accountant) i forgot the exact anme but it was efnet owner
  3064. (20:34:07) (the_accountant) 100%
  3065. (20:34:12) (the_accountant) we went through ssndob
  3066. (20:34:13) (Pain) 2l8 btw was yokai, nesta and ahb
  3067. (20:34:23) (the_accountant) yea 2l8 wasnt anything to do with that
  3068. (20:34:26) (the_accountant) they didnt do nameservers
  3069. (20:34:34) (the_accountant) they just got root and defaced, added themselves as admin to hubs
  3070. (20:34:46) (the_accountant) and talked about routing the traffic to defilers network
  3071. (20:34:52) (the_accountant) they were scared
  3072. (20:36:40) (the_accountant) the entire time that was happening, yokai was screaming at defiler in pm over fish crypt
  3073. (20:36:53) (the_accountant) saying efnet can still read all of that and banned defiler from yokai's chans including phrack
  3074. (20:37:24)  
  3075. (20:37:24) [ whois: Pain ]
  3076. (20:37:24)  › name: pain
  3077. (20:37:24)  › address: pain@network.idiot
  3078. (20:37:24)  › channels: &#security (1)
  3079. (20:37:24)  › irc operator
  3080. (20:37:24)  › auth: Pain
  3081. (20:37:24)  › Pain is using a secure connection
  3082. (20:37:24)  › server: pain.blackhats.ru (irc.blackhats.ru pain)
  3083. (20:37:24)  › idle: 3m 10s, signed on: 19:40:14 - 10/11/2018 (2w 57m 10s ago)
  3084. (20:37:24) [ /whois: 20:37 ]
  3085. (20:37:24)  
  3086. (20:37:26) (Pain) sit tight
  3087. (20:37:29) (Pain) net split incoming
  3088. (20:37:31) (the_accountant) k
  3089. (20:37:50) (Pain) i think
  3090. (20:38:35) (Pain) join pain.blackhats.ru
  3091. (20:38:40) (Pain) blackout is rebooting deepstate
  3092. (20:38:42) (Pain) whcih youir;e on
  3093. (20:38:44) (Pain) im the only oper
  3094. (20:39:13) (Pain) yo ucan use tor
  3095. (20:39:15) (Pain) i dont block it
  3096.  
  3097. Session Start: Sat Nov 24 20:41:40 2018
  3098. Session Ident: Pain
  3099. (20:41:40) Session Ident: Pain (pain@network.idiot)
  3100. (20:41:41) (Pain) oh yea #thc, i was in there
  3101. (20:42:06) (pharmer) which network
  3102. (20:42:55) (Pain) efnet
  3103. (20:43:03) (Pain) thats where i asked yokai about his 2l8 codes
  3104. (20:43:13) (Pain) specificly why he didnt use debug registers in his rootkit
  3105. (20:43:16) (Pain) for fbsd
  3106. (20:43:18) (Pain) which is a word for word rip
  3107. (20:43:22) (Pain) of designing freebsd rootkits
  3108. (20:43:25) (Pain) i shit you not
  3109. (20:43:35) (Pain) he took the vfs functions out of the kernel to make that code work
  3110. (20:43:40) (Pain) his only contribution
  3111. (20:44:00) (pharmer) lmfao
  3112. (20:44:13) (pharmer) thats good shit
  3113. (20:44:23) (Pain) i wont give it out, but the code is hilarious
  3114. (20:44:26) (pharmer) i never got why zmda held that guy in such high regard
  3115. (20:44:29) (Pain) even zmda laughed
  3116. (20:44:31) (pharmer) up on a pedastal
  3117. (20:44:33) (Pain) he used to
  3118. (20:44:36) (Pain) he doesnt now
  3119. (20:44:39) (pharmer) thank god
  3120. (20:47:00) (Pain) lol
  3121. (20:47:03) (Pain) tell me about it
  3122. (20:47:52) (pharmer) well i kinda felt bad cause everyone was making fun of zmda for that and that only
  3123. (20:48:01) (pharmer) im like dude you keep talking about that guy like that he's going to fuck you up
  3124. (20:48:08) (pharmer) nobody could understand why he was under yokai's wing like that
  3125. (20:48:16) (Pain) he can do suprisingly little actually
  3126. (20:48:18) (Pain) he does hack
  3127. (20:48:22) (Pain) but not what you;d think
  3128. (20:48:25) (Pain) or how
  3129. (20:48:26) (Pain) he mostly codes
  3130. (20:48:44) (pharmer) also
  3131. (20:48:56) (pharmer) defiler said he helped add to zmda's rootkit
  3132. (20:49:17) (pharmer) he had him hooking firefox rather than using tmpfs
  3133. (20:49:34) (pharmer) and in turn allowed zmda to remove a bunch of redundant code he would no longer have to use
  3134. (20:49:36) (pharmer) all through concept
  3135. (20:49:46) (pharmer) zmda will back that
  3136. (20:50:19) (Pain) idk about all that
  3137. (20:50:24) (pharmer) originally zmda didn't want to hook like that because he was going after ecommerce
  3138. (20:50:27) (pharmer) no, really, ask
  3139. (20:50:27) (Pain) this is the time zmda is usually on and hes not atm
  3140. (20:50:35) (Pain) this is the time zmda is usually on and hes not atm
  3141. (20:50:40) (pharmer) ask him when he gets on about defiler's contribution
  3142. (20:51:01) (pharmer) defiler said hes positive hes probably even got the log
  3143. (20:51:24) (pharmer) he was mounting tmpfs and doing other shit that didnt need to be done
  3144. (20:52:21) (Pain) he lieks /dev/shm
  3145. (20:52:23) (Pain) for some reason
  3146. (20:54:03) (pharmer) lol
  3147. (20:54:14) (pharmer) did he just tell you that
  3148. (20:54:18) (Pain) no
  3149. (20:54:20) (pharmer) or is he still not on
  3150. (20:54:20) (pharmer) oh ok
  3151. (20:54:26) (Pain) hes seriously not online
  3152. (20:54:29) (pharmer) i tried to wheel him away from all of that
  3153. (20:54:36) (Pain) 20:36:39 -!- Irssi: Starting query in znc with kljd
  3154. (20:54:38) (Pain) 20:36:39 <Pain> you on? if so only talk here
  3155. (20:54:40) (Pain) srs
  3156. (20:54:46) (pharmer) i believe you
  3157. (20:55:07) (pharmer) lol defiler said you bastard, he was trying to get in contact with zmda
  3158. (20:55:13) (pharmer) you said he disappeared haha
  3159. (20:55:23) (Pain) he said he wanted it that way
  3160. (20:55:29) (Pain) he wanted me to tell people hes dead
  3161. (20:55:32) (Pain) but i talk t ohim daily
  3162. (20:55:39) (pharmer) thats good
  3163. (20:55:41) (Pain) we've been very busy
  3164. (20:55:44) (Pain) :)
  3165. (20:56:03) (pharmer) happy for ya
  3166. (20:56:49) (Pain) but for you and everyone else
  3167. (20:56:50) (Pain) hes dead
  3168. (20:57:13) (pharmer) not a problem
  3169. (20:57:22) (pharmer) i wouldnt mention him anywhere anyway, nobody would know him
  3170. (20:57:30) (pharmer) everyone would just say, who?
  3171. (20:57:31) (pharmer) lol
  3172. (20:58:26) (pharmer) im not hanging around AB or zf0 or any hackers, im just around some lower level beginners and defiler
  3173. (20:58:41) (pharmer) he's not that much of a beginner anymore with lower layers tbh
  3174. (20:58:54) (Pain) i can find them
  3175. (20:59:02) (Pain) if i shut up long enoug hand focused
  3176. (20:59:04) (Pain) i could find them
  3177. (20:59:17) (pharmer) no i could find them as well but i dont want to
  3178. (20:59:27) (pharmer) i watn to be the next era of people like that
  3179. (20:59:30) (pharmer) i want to bring in the next wave
  3180. (20:59:35) (Pain) the phrase 'dont ask question you dont want the answers to'
  3181. (20:59:37) (Pain) comes to mine
  3182. (20:59:46) (Pain) mind
  3183. (20:59:53) (Pain) (you made me start drinking)
  3184. (21:00:02) (pharmer) i didnt ask a question
  3185. (21:00:10) (Pain) no i mean about AB/zf0
  3186. (21:00:15) (Pain) and finding them
  3187. (21:00:17) (pharmer) yea that wasnt a question
  3188. (21:00:24) (Pain) thats why i dont look
  3189. (21:00:27) (Pain) because of that phrase
  3190. (21:00:31) (pharmer) lol
  3191. (21:00:31) (Pain) dont ask if you dont want to know
  3192. (21:00:35) (pharmer) that was me saying i dont hang around them
  3193. (21:00:39) (Pain) and atm, i dont want to know
  3194. (21:00:42) (pharmer) i didnt ask anything about them
  3195. (21:00:51) (Pain) i dont know much anyway
  3196. (21:00:52) (pharmer) did you even read my sentence
  3197. (21:00:53) (Pain) lol
  3198. (21:00:57) (pharmer) lol
  3199. (21:00:58) (Pain) they only talk to epople they've met IRL
  3200. (21:01:01) (Pain) yes
  3201. (21:01:15) (Pain) i know more about them than i should
  3202. (21:01:29) (pharmer) i can find them too, i know the individuals i can spot them in pub chans
  3203. (21:01:34) (Pain) i can almost tell you a memembers list
  3204. (21:01:39) (Pain) wow.
  3205. (21:01:40) (pharmer) same haha
  3206. (21:01:41) (Pain) members*
  3207. (21:01:56) (pharmer) i know a lot of their aliases too
  3208. (21:02:04) (pharmer) i dont really go in search or anything
  3209. (21:02:09) (Pain) nah
  3210. (21:02:16) (pharmer) none of that interests me anymore, i just want to be the next wave of people
  3211. (21:02:17) (Pain) like i said, something i dont want to know
  3212. (21:02:20) (pharmer) of the elderheads
  3213. (21:02:28) (Pain) im with you
  3214. (21:02:31) (Pain) im coming to that age
  3215. (21:02:35) (Pain) im almost 30
  3216. (21:02:37) (Pain) lol
  3217. (21:02:44) (Pain) time to change tactics
  3218. (21:02:46) (pharmer) im around that age
  3219. (21:02:48) (pharmer) and yea
  3220. (21:03:15) (pharmer) to be honest, they aren't doing anything amazingly spectacular that a lot of other people arent doing
  3221. (21:03:27) (Pain) yokai put this nicely
  3222. (21:03:28) (pharmer) they are hacking just like all the rest of us
  3223. (21:03:43) (pharmer) but if you land on a box they already have owned
  3224. (21:03:44) (Pain) 'suddenly i had the oppurtunity to pick the minds of the greatest hackers i nthe world'
  3225. (21:03:47) (pharmer) u may have the hacker battle of your life
  3226. (21:03:56) (Pain) im not equiped
  3227. (21:03:59) (Pain) at _ALL_
  3228. (21:04:02) (Pain) for that
  3229. (21:04:13) (pharmer) for what
  3230. (21:04:18) (pharmer) questioning the best hackers in the world?
  3231. (21:04:20) (Pain) hacker v hacker
  3232. (21:04:22) (pharmer) oh
  3233. (21:04:27) (pharmer) yea its not fun when you find some beast
  3234. (21:04:31) (Pain) i woudlnt even know where to begin
  3235. (21:04:34) (pharmer) some guys will firewall you out fast as fuck
  3236. (21:04:34) (Pain) like i said i do damage contorl
  3237. (21:04:47) (Pain) that major backbone i spoke of
  3238. (21:04:49) (Pain) i was firewalled
  3239. (21:04:52) (Pain) pretty wquickly
  3240. (21:04:58) (Pain) when i found the cli admin interface
  3241. (21:05:01) (Pain) that a key i had worked on
  3242. (21:05:09) (Pain) i had root on the box, but my key was in that user
  3243. (21:05:18) (Pain) i was firewalled before the screen finished drawing
  3244. (21:05:50) (Pain) i thought it was just an attentive admin
  3245. (21:05:58) (Pain) but after looking motnhs later
  3246. (21:06:00) (pharmer) lol
  3247. (21:06:02) (Pain) no one else was on that box when i was
  3248. (21:06:17) (Pain) i gave that box to zmda
  3249. (21:06:20) (Pain) he has all my linux roots
  3250. (21:06:23) (pharmer) some people just have their baby's locked the fuck down
  3251. (21:06:24) (Pain) i kept al lthe bsd and solaris
  3252. (21:06:31) (Pain) nah, this was wide the hell open
  3253. (21:06:48) (Pain) i have 0day for a lot of major shit
  3254. (21:06:53) (Pain) most is what yokai already found
  3255. (21:06:55) (pharmer) you sure that wasnt just an accept; reject iptables?
  3256. (21:06:59) (Pain) with the tomcat shit he was doing
  3257. (21:06:59) (pharmer) rather than reject; accept
  3258. (21:07:19) (pharmer) blacklist -> whitelist vs whitelist -> blacklist
  3259. (21:07:23) (Pain) to be frank whe ni say Connection closed
  3260. (21:07:25) (Pain) i left
  3261. (21:07:28) (Pain) saw
  3262. (21:07:37) (Pain) i gave the box to zmda, cuz hes quieter than me
  3263. (21:07:42) (Pain) been doing it longer
  3264. (21:07:43) (pharmer) lol i see
  3265. (21:07:57) (pharmer) gotta be a church mouse man
  3266. (21:07:59) (pharmer) small footprints!
  3267. (21:08:01) (Pain) hes been going it near 20 years, ot my 12
  3268. (21:08:09) (Pain) i know when to yeild
  3269. (21:08:15) (Pain) just most of the time i dont
  3270. (21:08:24) (pharmer) if you're good manually itll all look like shell code
  3271. (21:08:34) (Pain) i mglad you said that
  3272. (21:08:35) (pharmer) even a decent admin wont see you
  3273. (21:08:38) (Pain) i tried to tel lzmda that
  3274. (21:08:43) (Pain) i dont think he understood me correctly
  3275. (21:08:55) (Pain) theres something in a phrack article
  3276. (21:08:58) (Pain) that does exactly that
  3277. (21:09:05) (Pain) they release delite codes without knowing it
  3278. (21:09:11) (Pain) reelased elite*
  3279. (21:09:14) (Pain) RELEASED
  3280. (21:09:16) (Pain) FUCK
  3281. (21:09:17) (pharmer) lol
  3282. (21:09:18) (Pain) .
  3283. (21:11:35) (Pain) one thing that bothers me though
  3284. (21:11:45) (Pain) defiler has always been like that
  3285. (21:11:50) (Pain) spewing w/e he had
  3286. (21:11:55) (Pain) to make himself seem better than others
  3287. (21:11:59) (Pain) why even bother
  3288. (21:12:04) (pharmer) approval
  3289. (21:12:13) (Pain) he wasnt looking for what i was looking for
  3290. (21:12:17) (Pain) he was looking for adoration
  3291. (21:12:24) (Pain) i couldnt give less of a fuck about it
  3292. (21:12:30) (pharmer) nah
  3293. (21:12:44) (Pain) i have an end goal, and when i recieve it im gone for life
  3294. (21:12:55) (Pain) approaching 30 im beginnign to wonder if ill ever get what i want
  3295. (21:12:59) (Pain) its a simple fucking question
  3296. (21:13:01) (Pain) to not simple people
  3297. (21:13:08) (pharmer) that guy spent so much of his life alone, he just wanted friends but had a hard time keeping them, and apparently he thought he found a way to the top to get there at the snap of a finger
  3298. (21:13:10) (pharmer) paid dearly for it
  3299. (21:13:43) (Pain) ill tell you what
  3300. (21:13:46) (pharmer) you're right anything he got his hands on, he would tell anyone
  3301. (21:13:46) (Pain) it doesnt have to be tonight
  3302. (21:13:49) (Pain) or this week
  3303. (21:13:52) (Pain) or this month even
  3304. (21:13:55) (Pain) tell him to contact me
  3305. (21:13:58) (Pain) he knows where i am
  3306. (21:13:58) (pharmer) he would tell people
  3307. (21:14:01) (pharmer) k
  3308. (21:14:12) (Pain) he'll join and ill PM
  3309. (21:14:16) (Pain) cuz i know everyone there
  3310. (21:14:19) (Pain) so he doesnt have to talk
  3311. (21:14:29) (Pain) no one will know but me
  3312. (21:14:35) (Pain) and i assure you it will keep that way
  3313. (21:14:38) (pharmer) where, here?
  3314. (21:14:41) (Pain) ill give you my home IP if you dont trust me
  3315. (21:14:44) (Pain) cc.net
  3316. (21:14:47) (pharmer) ah ok
  3317. (21:14:50) (pharmer) ill tell him
  3318. (21:14:55) (Pain) theres no other guarentee i can give you
  3319. (21:14:58) (Pain) except my home ipo
  3320. (21:15:00) (Pain) -o
  3321. (21:15:10) (pharmer) he said he wouldnt want that man
  3322. (21:15:14) (pharmer) he will talk to ou though
  3323. (21:15:18) (pharmer) he doesnt want your ip lol
  3324. (21:15:24) (Pain) doesnt have to be soon, it can be 3 months from now
  3325. (21:15:28) (Pain) 6 months
  3326. (21:15:29) (Pain) a year
  3327. (21:15:32) (Pain) idc
  3328. (21:15:42) (Pain) you saved his life
  3329. (21:15:48) (Pain) remind him of that
  3330. (21:15:57) (pharmer) how did i save him? lol
  3331. (21:16:05) (pharmer) all i did was talk to someone for him
  3332. (21:16:10) (Pain) i live in the south phramer
  3333. (21:16:14) (Pain) think about it
  3334. (21:16:18) (Pain) pharmer*
  3335. (21:16:24) (pharmer) that doesnt help
  3336. (21:16:29) (Pain) we know how to get rid of people
  3337. (21:16:34) (Pain) we've been doign it since we succeeded
  3338. (21:16:40) (Pain) err
  3339. (21:16:45) (Pain) um
  3340. (21:16:45) (pharmer) he's from the south too and he's tied in with hells angels
  3341. (21:16:47) (pharmer) none of that matters
  3342. (21:16:52) (Pain) that doesnt concern me
  3343. (21:17:03) (pharmer) i can promise you he was never worried about real life stuff man
  3344. (21:17:08) (Pain) not succeeded but left the union
  3345. (21:17:14) (Pain) i forget the word
  3346. (21:17:26) (pharmer) i know waht you mean
  3347. (21:17:50) (pharmer) you have to know that this guy's family are millionaires
  3348. (21:18:07) (pharmer) and they are from the south..
  3349. (21:18:21) (pharmer) apparently his mother owns a hospital
  3350. (21:18:58) (pharmer) and his dad owns club buildings downtown that he rents out, his family started a bank back in the early 1900's
  3351. (21:19:12) (pharmer) i seriously doubt you can do anything to that man
  3352. (21:19:31) (Pain) the bigger they are
  3353. (21:19:34) (Pain) the harder they fall
  3354. (21:19:39) (Pain) doesnt just mean physically my friend
  3355. (21:19:54) (Pain) and i know about his family
  3356. (21:19:57) (Pain) he does flooring
  3357. (21:19:58) (Pain) specificly tile
  3358. (21:20:00) (pharmer) no
  3359. (21:20:01) (Pain) i do everyhting else
  3360. (21:20:04) (pharmer) he did lol
  3361. (21:20:12) (pharmer) that guy moved west coast and has an IT job
  3362. (21:20:19) (Pain) i do carpet, carpet tiles, vct, vinyl
  3363. (21:20:20) (pharmer) for a major corporation
  3364. (21:20:22) (Pain) wel ldid
  3365. (21:20:26) (Pain) me and him are a lot alike
  3366. (21:20:27) (pharmer) he doesnt do carpet theres no money in it
  3367. (21:20:32) (pharmer) hard flooring is what he did
  3368. (21:20:34) (pharmer) for 15 years
  3369. (21:20:34) (Pain) if you put us in a room together you'd think we're brothers
  3370. (21:20:38) (Pain) i know he isnt fuckign with me
  3371. (21:20:41) (Pain) and he has areason why
  3372. (21:20:43) (Pain) and its not fear
  3373. (21:20:46) (Pain) he repsects me
  3374. (21:20:55) (Pain) and i respect him for respecting me
  3375. (21:20:58) (Pain) even if i hate him
  3376. (21:21:03) (Pain) even if what hes done is inexcusable
  3377. (21:21:13) (pharmer) he knows all this and hes still tryin to talk to ya
  3378. (21:21:16) (Pain) but one thing to always know
  3379. (21:21:20) (Pain) fear is not respect
  3380. (21:21:25) (Pain) and id rathery ou respect me
  3381. (21:21:26) (Pain) than fear me
  3382. (21:21:39) (pharmer) trust man nobody is fearing anything
  3383. (21:21:43) (pharmer) he doesnt fear you you dont fear him
  3384. (21:21:46) (pharmer) he literally just wanted to clear htings up with you
  3385. (21:21:52) (pharmer) he brought you in and really doesnt understand
  3386. (21:21:54) (pharmer) why you hate him so much
  3387. (21:22:00) (pharmer) when the stuff he did wasnt necessarily against you
  3388. (21:22:04) (pharmer) yea some shit with chrono was
  3389. (21:22:17) (pharmer) one instance with chrono, something about rizon and a znc
  3390. (21:22:26) (pharmer) and chrono getting his znc logs watched
  3391. (21:22:35) (pharmer) and defiler pasting those logs, then saying you gave them to him
  3392. (21:22:37) (pharmer) or osmething?
  3393. (21:22:45) (pharmer) or maybe acid said you gave them to him
  3394. (21:22:52) (pharmer) either way, there was tom foolery and defiler did not choose that
  3395. (21:23:07) (pharmer) whatever came out, came out from acid chrono and mikejonez and whoever else
  3396. (21:23:17) (pharmer) chrono was being had by defiler
  3397. (21:23:33) (pharmer) and in the midst of that, you started to have hatred for him, same with acid
  3398. (21:23:54) (Pain) i pasted logs about acid to chrono when i was forbidden to join myg0t
  3399. (21:23:55) (pharmer) he said he still doesnt know what happened and wants to know why you hated him for that
  3400. (21:23:58) (Pain) again in a horrible mental state
  3401. (21:24:07) (Pain) and chrono repasted htem publicly
  3402. (21:24:10) (Pain) shunning me from * myg0t
  3403. (21:24:28) (pharmer) but did you give defiler those logs
  3404. (21:24:28) (Pain) 2013 -2015 was a bad time for me
  3405. (21:24:32) (pharmer) or did defiler have those logs on his own
  3406. (21:24:32) (Pain) i still havent fully recovered
  3407. (21:24:41) (pharmer) cause he said he had those logs
  3408. (21:24:42) (Pain) and thats when defiler came to me
  3409. (21:24:45) (Pain) at my weakest
  3410. (21:24:56) (Pain) and held the el9 ircd and zmda over my head
  3411. (21:25:00) (Pain) so my response, if anything, was light
  3412. (21:25:08) (Pain) despite ruining his entire online persona
  3413. (21:25:09) (pharmer) i dont understand that cause he let you in there
  3414. (21:25:20) (pharmer) how did he hold it over your head
  3415. (21:25:22) (pharmer) if he let you in
  3416. (21:25:29) (pharmer) doesnt sound like holding over your head
  3417. (21:25:29) (Pain) i wasnt on the ircd
  3418. (21:25:32) (pharmer) sounds like a bit of teasing
  3419. (21:25:35) (pharmer) netiher was defiler anymore
  3420. (21:25:35) (Pain) he tried to hold both it and zmda over my head
  3421. (21:25:40) (Pain) and i contacted zmda seperately
  3422. (21:25:43) (pharmer) he tried to get back onto the ircd when he got you in there
  3423. (21:25:47) (pharmer) he was no longer allowed
  3424. (21:25:52) (pharmer) cause he wasnt actively chatting
  3425. (21:26:03) (pharmer) i dont think that guy was ready for that ircd to be honest
  3426. (21:26:13) (Pain) but IMSMC
  3427. (21:26:15) (Pain) it was his doing
  3428. (21:26:18) (Pain) his box
  3429. (21:26:20) (Pain) his ircd
  3430. (21:26:23) (Pain) his people
  3431. (21:26:25) (Pain) (if memory serves correctly)
  3432. (21:26:30) (Pain) serves me*
  3433. (21:26:35) (pharmer) it wasnt defiler's box?
  3434. (21:26:47) (pharmer) oh, wait a min he's saying something lol
  3435. (21:26:51) (Pain) i thought el9 was the peopel he elevated from #dmt
  3436. (21:26:54) (pharmer) ok he remembers having a channel with el9 people
  3437. (21:27:01) (pharmer) it was
  3438. (21:27:07) (Pain) i was not on that.
  3439. (21:27:09) (pharmer) he brought sav, duppy, and zmda into that channel
  3440. (21:27:16) (pharmer) he said he didnt have you in mind at that point
  3441. (21:27:21) (pharmer) you werent around at that time
  3442. (21:27:25) (pharmer) you came around after that
  3443. (21:27:30) (Pain) i recall this because my nick at the time weas mmxvi
  3444. (21:27:33) (Pain) 2015
  3445. (21:27:39) (Pain) he tried to entice me with zmda
  3446. (21:27:41) (Pain) and that ircd
  3447. (21:27:46) (Pain) and i fell right into it
  3448. (21:28:00) (pharmer) well there were 2 irc's
  3449. (21:28:05) (Pain) everythign that happened afterwards, is a directly indirect result of him fuckign with zmda
  3450. (21:28:07) (pharmer) the ircd you speak of from el9 was not defilers
  3451. (21:28:09) (Pain) but my hand doign it
  3452. (21:28:12) (pharmer) the channel was
  3453. (21:28:16) (pharmer) the temp channel
  3454. (21:28:19) (pharmer) that they were testing duppy out in
  3455. (21:28:25) (pharmer) that was the only thing they did on his network
  3456. (21:28:34) (pharmer) that was simply them picking duppy's brain
  3457. (21:28:36) (pharmer) aka anti-peace
  3458. (21:28:39) (pharmer) seeing if he was worthy of el9
  3459. (21:28:45) (pharmer) he wasnt, that channel died instantly
  3460. (21:29:03) (pharmer) duppy got hacked
  3461. (21:29:06) (pharmer) immediately after taht
  3462. (21:29:11) (pharmer) so did hardchats
  3463. (21:29:19) (pharmer) is what hes telling me
  3464. (21:29:21) (pharmer) said he did it
  3465. (21:29:33) (pharmer) actually i remember this
  3466. (21:29:46) (Pain) duppy rings a bell
  3467. (21:29:50) (Pain) but idr why
  3468. (21:29:51) (pharmer) antipeace
  3469. (21:29:55) (pharmer) he was in AB
  3470. (21:30:00) (pharmer) transferring to el9
  3471. (21:30:00) (Pain) You all.
  3472. (21:30:02) (Pain) Fucked up.
  3473. (21:30:03) (Pain) Hard.
  3474. (21:30:06) (pharmer) yes
  3475. (21:30:07) (Pain) and you dont even know it
  3476. (21:30:11) (pharmer) they shit the bed
  3477. (21:30:19) (Pain) antipeace would have destroied all of you in a fucking blink of an eye
  3478. (21:30:24) (pharmer) no
  3479. (21:30:25) (Pain) you have _zero_ fuckign clue
  3480. (21:30:26) (pharmer) antipeace
  3481. (21:30:28) (pharmer) told MLT
  3482. (21:30:30) (pharmer) to run from defiler
  3483. (21:30:32) (pharmer) that defiler is bad news
  3484. (21:30:39) (pharmer) and will crush everything in his path
  3485. (21:30:42) (Pain) the smartest thing antipeace ever said
  3486. (21:30:45) (pharmer) immediately after getting ooted
  3487. (21:30:47) (Pain) wait
  3488. (21:30:47) (pharmer) rooted*
  3489. (21:30:52) (pharmer) i swear to god on this
  3490. (21:30:58) (Pain) antipeace hacked bitcoin exchanges for fuckign fun dude
  3491. (21:31:02) (pharmer) yes
  3492. (21:31:05) (Pain) hes not a fucking person to triffle with
  3493. (21:31:05) (pharmer) thats all he could do
  3494. (21:31:07) (pharmer) he had tons of coin
  3495. (21:31:08) (Pain) hes a goddamn monster
  3496. (21:31:09) (pharmer) i swear on my life
  3497. (21:31:10) (Pain) and i lvoe him
  3498. (21:31:12) (pharmer) defiler rooted that guy
  3499. (21:31:13) (pharmer) ask MLT
  3500. (21:31:17) (pharmer) ask zmda
  3501. (21:31:23) (Pain) i dont
  3502. (21:31:26) (pharmer) there used to be a pastebin
  3503. (21:31:28) (Pain) theres not HUMAN FUCKIGN WAY
  3504. (21:31:30) (Pain) dude
  3505. (21:31:31) (pharmer) bro ask anyone
  3506. (21:31:33) (Pain) there sjust no human fuckign way
  3507. (21:31:34) (pharmer) from hardchats
  3508. (21:31:37) (pharmer) ask dwaan civil
  3509. (21:31:38) (pharmer) ask all of them
  3510. (21:31:44) (pharmer) they saw defiler OWN antipeace
  3511. (21:31:48) (pharmer) i swear on everything i love
  3512. (21:31:50) (pharmer) i watched it
  3513. (21:31:57) (pharmer) ask zmda...
  3514. (21:32:04) (pharmer) you dont give defiler credit
  3515. (21:32:10) (pharmer) just like the rest of the online community
  3516. (21:32:15) (pharmer) even when he's really earned it
  3517. (21:32:22) (pharmer) thats really shitty
  3518. (21:32:27) (pharmer) that dude could have been godlike
  3519. (21:32:30) (pharmer) if he wouldnt have gotten on drugs
  3520. (21:33:19) (pharmer) please ask about defiler owning antipeace
  3521. (21:33:21) (pharmer) please do.
  3522. (21:33:28) (pharmer) he's begging me for you to ask about it
  3523. (21:33:39) (pharmer) since you hold antipeace in high regard
  3524. (21:33:51) (Pain) antipeace was zf0
  3525. (21:33:54) (pharmer) he literally told MLT that defiler is bad news and is going to own someone
  3526. (21:33:55) (pharmer) yea
  3527. (21:33:59) (Pain) but its strayfe/n3w7yp3 im looking for
  3528. (21:34:01) (pharmer) wasnt AB it was zf0
  3529. (21:34:02) (Pain) strayfe is AB now
  3530. (21:34:06) (Pain) and wont give me the time of day
  3531. (21:34:11) (pharmer) bro
  3532. (21:34:12) (pharmer) ask zmda
  3533. (21:34:17) (pharmer) please ask anyone about that
  3534. (21:34:21) (pharmer) anyone from old hardchats
  3535. (21:34:24) (pharmer) daniel watched it
  3536. (21:34:25) (pharmer) spoon
  3537. (21:34:27) (pharmer) ask spoon
  3538. (21:34:30) (pharmer) spoon got opped
  3539. (21:34:32) (pharmer) at the end
  3540. (21:34:35) (pharmer) starfall commented on the hack
  3541. (21:34:45) (pharmer) said he hasnt seen an ircd get server sided like that since he did it
  3542. (21:34:55) (pharmer) all in the name of duppy aka antipeace
  3543. (21:36:07) (pharmer) im pretty sure bansha aka monstro
  3544. (21:36:08) (pharmer) was there
  3545. (21:36:12) (pharmer) personally watched it
  3546. (21:37:11) (pharmer) lol thats bad when you hack someone that high profile and cant even get credit because you're that hated
  3547. (21:37:38) (Pain) the spoon i know
  3548. (21:37:43) (Pain) would destroy even antipeace
  3549. (21:37:52) (Pain) defielr likes saying 'god tier hacker'
  3550. (21:37:58) (Pain) the spoon i know for damn sure is
  3551. (21:38:04) (Pain) was hacking and securing gov boxes at 16 dude
  3552. (21:38:09) (Pain) mother fuckers a goddamn madman
  3553. (21:38:09) (pharmer) spoon was underneath defiler
  3554. (21:38:12) (Pain) aussie too
  3555. (21:38:21) (Pain) this spoon wouldnt give defielr a single though
  3556. (21:38:24) (pharmer) spoon was very underrated
  3557. (21:38:24) (Pain) t
  3558. (21:38:27) (Pain) his real nick is icenix
  3559. (21:38:38) (pharmer) hmm not speaking about the same people
  3560. (21:38:43) (Pain) and icenix is someone, under any and all circumstance
  3561. (21:38:46) (pharmer) im talking about this guy came up from zerosec
  3562. (21:38:46) (Pain) you _do not_ fuck with
  3563. (21:38:52) (pharmer) spoon from twitter
  3564. (21:38:53) (Pain) he was top of the food chain before he was legal
  3565. (21:39:02) (pharmer) spoon aka daniel`
  3566. (21:39:04) (pharmer) from efnet
  3567. (21:39:39) (pharmer) he's really smart too and i could see him turning up to be this icenix person now that you speak of
  3568. (21:39:47) (pharmer) he was on his way
  3569. (21:40:41) (Pain) i dont believe the antipeace thing man
  3570. (21:40:49) (pharmer) you've got to ask around about it
  3571. (21:40:52) (pharmer) and not just believe for yourself
  3572. (21:40:54) (pharmer) go ask
  3573. (21:40:58) (pharmer) there used to be a pastebin
  3574. (21:41:04) (pharmer) dwaan had it ripped down
  3575. (21:41:09) (pharmer) cause it was tainting the hardchats name
  3576. (21:41:24) (Pain) (if only he knew)
  3577. (21:42:32) (pharmer) if only who knew
  3578. (21:42:36) (pharmer) antipeace knows he got hacked by defiler
  3579. (21:42:41) (pharmer) he will to this day admit to it
  3580. (21:43:17) (pharmer) im positive someone on xmpp land
  3581. (21:43:18) (pharmer) saw it
  3582. (21:43:18) (Pain) if only dwaan knew how bad the hardchats name became
  3583. (21:43:23) (Pain) because of deilfer
  3584. (21:43:28) (pharmer) oh lol
  3585. (21:43:29) (pharmer) he did
  3586. (21:43:34) (pharmer) thats why he disappeared it
  3587. (21:43:36) (Pain) thats not he real MLT
  3588. (21:43:39) (pharmer) oh
  3589. (21:43:40) (pharmer) lol
  3590. (21:43:40) (Pain) thatb ot is on supernets too
  3591. (21:43:45) (Pain) idk who it is
  3592. (21:44:20) (pharmer) im trying to remember who all i gzlined
  3593. (21:44:26) (pharmer) cause it was an entire server filled with people
  3594. (21:44:39) (pharmer) who all got gzlined
  3595. (21:44:57) (pharmer) can you get in contact with starfall?
  3596. (21:45:25) (Pain) afaik starfall == KMS
  3597. (21:45:35) (Pain) and i woudlnt give either ofthem the time of day
  3598. (21:46:14) (Pain) KMS cemeted his stance with me
  3599. (21:46:29) (pharmer) KMS changed a lot
  3600. (21:46:31) (pharmer) he doesnt talk now
  3601. (21:46:36) (Pain) paved over it and made a fucking museum out of it
  3602. (21:46:39) (pharmer) thats why you didnt know hes out of jail
  3603. (21:46:45) (Pain) true
  3604. (21:46:51) (Pain) that and because he snitched
  3605. (21:46:56) (Pain) hes out of favor with supernets
  3606. (21:47:12) (pharmer) thats where i found him
  3607. (21:47:15) (pharmer) when he got back on irc
  3608. (21:47:18) (pharmer) as Memento
  3609. (21:47:25) (pharmer) for a very short period of time
  3610. (21:47:57) (pharmer) then he went hiding out in nttiton's discord
  3611. (21:47:59) (Pain) i recall that nick
  3612. (21:48:04) (Pain) only briefly
  3613. (21:48:22) (pharmer) nttiton's discord aka malwaretech's irc
  3614. (21:48:26) (pharmer) old irc before he got famous
  3615. (21:48:27) (Pain) not that
  3616. (21:48:28) (Pain) memento
  3617. (21:48:30) (pharmer) oh
  3618. (21:48:34) (pharmer) yea that was a short lived name
  3619. (21:48:38) (pharmer) he didnt talk in public
  3620. (21:48:44) (pharmer) he pm'd me though
  3621. (21:48:50) (pharmer) asked me about some hooking techniques
  3622. (21:48:55) (Pain) and MWT can suck a donkey dick for all i care
  3623. (21:49:05) (pharmer) hes always been an asshole
  3624. (21:49:12) (pharmer) ever since betamonkey
  3625. (21:49:17) (Pain) he faked longs saying i was a pedo
  3626. (21:49:20) (Pain) under my mmxvi nick
  3627. (21:49:23) (pharmer) the only time malwaretech was ever himself
  3628. (21:49:23) (Pain) i was on zerosec
  3629. (21:49:27) (Pain) for all ov 3 hours
  3630. (21:49:30) (pharmer) was when he was sucking pepperidge farm
  3631. (21:49:31) (Pain) when that log was made
  3632. (21:49:32) (pharmer) as iarkey
  3633. (21:49:41) (Pain) when the feds got MWT i laughed my ass off
  3634. (21:49:42) (pharmer) iarkey == MWT he will NOT admit this though
  3635. (21:49:46) (Pain) cuz i was about to rm him
  3636. (21:49:51) (pharmer) thats his noob name
  3637. (21:49:52) (pharmer) lol
  3638. (21:50:07) (Pain) i know the halfway house hes in
  3639. (21:50:08) (pharmer) you were going to RM MWT?
  3640. (21:50:10) (pharmer) doubtful
  3641. (21:50:11) (pharmer) bro
  3642. (21:50:12) (pharmer) lol
  3643. (21:50:16) (pharmer) thats MWT man
  3644. (21:50:17) (pharmer) hes good
  3645. (21:50:19) (pharmer) real good
  3646. (21:50:28) (Pain) dont fake logs of me
  3647. (21:50:29) (pharmer) not a hacker but he can hack for damn sure
  3648. (21:50:32) (pharmer) im not
  3649. (21:50:32) (Pain) especially when you dont know me
  3650. (21:50:40) (pharmer) what fake logs?
  3651. (21:50:40) (pharmer) wtf
  3652. (21:50:43) (Pain) MWT is on my shitlist
  3653. (21:50:57) (pharmer) no no i just say this cause
  3654. (21:51:00) (pharmer) mwt is knowledgeable bro
  3655. (21:51:01) (Pain) i said he made a fake log of me being a pedo, whjen i had just joined zerosec
  3656. (21:51:07) (pharmer) that guy grew up in the same malware scene i did
  3657. (21:51:08) (pharmer) with betamonkey
  3658. (21:51:14) (Pain) i know betamonkey
  3659. (21:51:15) (Pain) very well
  3660. (21:51:16) (pharmer) trust me hes not an easy hack
  3661. (21:51:28) (pharmer) touchme aka malwaretech is almost one of those impossible to hack users
  3662. (21:51:30) (Pain) we've ran into each other a few times
  3663. (21:51:33) (Pain) entirely by accident
  3664. (21:51:45) (pharmer) betamonkey was basically my brother
  3665. (21:51:54) (pharmer) him and defiler ran voidptr
  3666. (21:52:04) (pharmer) and MWT
  3667. (21:52:42) (pharmer) did you even know that defiler used to create windows malware? lol
  3668. (21:52:57) (Pain) yes
  3669. (21:53:22) (pharmer) he transformed to linux and turned into the biggest noob you guys could find
  3670. (21:53:53) (pharmer) oh god dude in #dmt
  3671. (21:54:08) (pharmer) he did not know how A records work in domains
  3672. (21:54:31) (pharmer) the entire channel shit a brick, thats the mockery you are probably speaking of
  3673. (21:54:42) (Pain) lol
  3674. (21:54:45) (pharmer) sAv, me, abdilo, civil, dwaan, ayocaine
  3675. (21:54:48) (pharmer) we all saw him say that
  3676. (21:54:55) (pharmer) you cant live that down
  3677. (21:55:00) (Pain) nah
  3678. (21:55:03) (Pain) lol
  3679. (21:55:06) (Pain) not with civil and dwaan in there
  3680. (21:55:17) (pharmer) that made them delink
  3681. (21:55:29) (Pain) i had civil join here
  3682. (21:55:34) (Pain) at my request
  3683. (21:55:46) (pharmer) civil is pure troll
  3684. (21:55:50) (Pain) i know
  3685. (21:55:53) (pharmer) even when you think hes being genuine
  3686. (21:55:57) (Pain) he does somethings
  3687. (21:55:59) (pharmer) he will seem 100% pure too
  3688. (21:56:01) (Pain) but hes not a ahacker
  3689. (21:56:06) (pharmer) no hes not
  3690. (21:56:07) (pharmer) but he can
  3691. (21:56:13) (pharmer) he can walk you throgh a damn hack
  3692. (21:56:18) (pharmer) word for word
  3693. (21:56:25) (pharmer) that guys on a kernel level
  3694. (21:56:36) (pharmer) you probably dont know any of this about him either
  3695. (21:58:14) (Pain) not really
  3696. (21:58:23) (Pain) just what hes done to insidious/nocturnal
  3697. (21:58:58) (pharmer) thats not even talent doing stuff to insidious
  3698. (21:59:37) (pharmer) and that's miniscule to what civil is capable of
  3699. (21:59:39) (Pain) tell me about it
  3700. (21:59:40) (Pain) lol
  3701. (21:59:46) (pharmer) civil is similar to zmda without all the ranting
  3702. (22:00:04) (pharmer) not as much exploitation
  3703. (22:00:08) (pharmer) experience*
  3704. (22:00:14) (pharmer) but can walk you through it blindfolde
  3705. (22:00:28) (pharmer) cause i suspect him and dwaan
  3706. (22:00:30) (pharmer) work for feds
  3707. (22:00:35) (pharmer) do you know about dwaan and civil at all
  3708. (22:00:40) (pharmer) or at least about dwaan
  3709. (22:00:44) (pharmer) and waht happened with him
  3710. (22:00:53) (pharmer) and civil in the beginning of anonymous
  3711. (22:01:00) (pharmer) they kind of started anonymous
  3712. (22:01:08) (pharmer) do you know the history behind irc.k0de.org
  3713. (22:01:13) (Pain) idk dick about dwaan, i learned some but ive forgotten it
  3714. (22:01:15) (Pain) no
  3715. (22:01:17) (pharmer) first irc anon ever slid onto
  3716. (22:01:22) (pharmer) thats where they grouped
  3717. (22:01:23) (Pain) civil i know slightly more about
  3718. (22:01:27) (pharmer) and turned into anon
  3719. (22:01:31) (pharmer) the original anon
  3720. (22:01:38) (pharmer) dwaan and x
  3721. (22:01:43) (pharmer) did the hp data protector hack
  3722. (22:01:49) (pharmer) got like 10k roots a day
  3723. (22:01:55) (pharmer) x went to prison for 5 years
  3724. (22:01:58) (pharmer) dwaan got a slap on the wrist
  3725. (22:02:00) (pharmer) same crimes
  3726. (22:02:10) (pharmer) both in australia
  3727. (22:02:12) (pharmer) civil
  3728. (22:02:13) (pharmer) same deal
  3729. (22:02:14) (Pain) fed
  3730. (22:02:18) (pharmer) same sheet
  3731. (22:02:18) (pharmer) but
  3732. (22:02:24) (Pain) i stopped tlaking to the guy i knew
  3733. (22:02:25) (pharmer) no federal encounters taht i KNOW of
  3734. (22:02:27) (Pain) for the little time he got
  3735. (22:02:32) (Pain) and what it was he really did
  3736. (22:02:37) (pharmer) but civil
  3737. (22:02:43) (pharmer) has too much abillity to not hack for no reason
  3738. (22:02:48) (pharmer) that guys got a reason that he's not doing anything
  3739. (22:03:46) (pharmer) he was on the doxing list of original anons
  3740. (22:03:48) (pharmer) civil was
  3741. (22:03:53) (pharmer) i believe he got touched by the feds imo
  3742. (22:04:01) (pharmer) just never told anyone and secretly works for them
  3743. (22:04:04) (pharmer) thats my thoughts
  3744. (22:04:08) (pharmer) and abdilo is australian
  3745. (22:04:14) (Pain) i can see that
  3746. (22:04:14) (pharmer) a bunch of XMPP+OTR logs
  3747. (22:04:17) (Pain) because of his demeanor
  3748. (22:04:18) (pharmer) from dwaan and abdilo
  3749. (22:04:23) (pharmer) reached the AFP
  3750. (22:04:28) (pharmer) in abdilo's sitting
  3751. (22:04:29) (pharmer) with the feds
  3752. (22:04:33) (pharmer) how did that happen?
  3753. (22:04:42) (pharmer) convos only him and dwaan had
  3754. (22:04:46) (pharmer) they were grilling him on
  3755. (22:04:56) (pharmer) with printed out paper flipping papers around asking him questions
  3756. (22:05:06) (pharmer) repeating all the convos and shit dwaan was saying to abdilo
  3757. (22:05:18) (pharmer) abdilo would tell you all of this if he wouldnt have ruined his life with meth and dry snitching on me
  3758. (22:05:20) (pharmer) and other people
  3759. (22:05:23) (pharmer) like defiler
  3760. (22:05:44) (pharmer) i think he snitched out sav too but i never knew sav enough to tell him
  3761. (22:07:18) (pharmer) im going to smoke a joint of girl scout cookies =D
  3762. (22:07:20) (pharmer) 29% thc
  3763. (22:07:50) (Pain) please
  3764. (22:07:53) (Pain) dont
  3765. (22:07:55) (Pain) mention
  3766. (22:07:57) (Pain) weed
  3767. (22:07:59) (Pain) i jsuut killed the last guy for that
  3768. (22:08:01) (Pain) /kill
  3769. (22:08:29) (Pain) literally
  3770. (22:08:31) (Pain) not even a minute
  3771. (22:08:33) (Pain) before you typed that
  3772. (22:09:34) (pharmer) lol ok i wont
  3773. (22:09:42) (pharmer) are you not able to?
  3774. (22:09:57) (Pain) broke and fresh out
  3775. (22:10:01) (pharmer) ah shit ok
  3776. (22:10:03) (pharmer) i know that feel
  3777. (22:10:03) (Pain) bowls cleaner than the day i boght it
  3778. (22:10:07) (pharmer) hahahaha
  3779. (22:10:18) (pharmer) good one
  3780. (22:10:27) (pharmer) suckin the glass out of that pipe
  3781. (22:14:34) (Pain) im still stuck here wondering
  3782. (22:14:37) (Pain) where do we go from here
  3783. (22:16:21) (pharmer) patience atm, hoping you can keep defiler's name on your mind and not continue to bring up things about him up that make you pissed again
  3784. (22:17:18) (pharmer) the worst part is finding out when that person wont flip on him, cause it already happened and that dudes like a beaten up dog
  3785. (22:18:01) (pharmer) like i said theres a lot of work here, but the main thing is
  3786. (22:18:16) (pharmer) bringing people together
  3787. (22:18:22) (pharmer) as a collective unit, not to group
  3788. (22:18:27) (pharmer) but to share intellectual skills and knowledge
  3789. (22:18:30) (pharmer) with no fighting
  3790. (22:18:41) (pharmer) we will share tools such as all seeing eye
  3791. (22:18:53) (Pain) you're starting to sound like me
  3792. (22:18:55) (pharmer) my goal is literally to create friends online again too
  3793. (22:19:22) (pharmer) because hwen you join irc, whats the most difficult thing to find
  3794. (22:19:28) (pharmer) people talking about shit you're interested in
  3795. (22:19:31) (pharmer) its easy to find tech talk
  3796. (22:19:38) (pharmer) but the kinda tech talk you want, isnt always there
  3797. (22:20:10) (pharmer) me, defiler, you, all of us from the old scenes (most of us anyway)
  3798. (22:20:13) (pharmer) we all kind of have the same goals
  3799. (22:20:25) (Pain) why am i agreeing with you
  3800. (22:20:31) (Pain) lol
  3801. (22:20:32) (pharmer) and we can all make it there faster together
  3802. (22:20:37) (pharmer) than as individuals
  3803. (22:21:53) (Pain) ive wanted to do that
  3804. (22:21:56) (Pain) with defiler
  3805. (22:21:58) (Pain) i came to him
  3806. (22:21:59) (Pain) didnt say that
  3807. (22:22:04) (Pain) he spint in my face
  3808. (22:22:08) (Pain) i came to a few people
  3809. (22:22:11) (Pain) wit htht idea
  3810. (22:22:18) (Pain) just a quiet group with people who dont give a fuck about drama
  3811. (22:22:20) (Pain) or doxing
  3812. (22:22:22) (Pain) or irc
  3813. (22:22:24) (Pain) or anyone on it
  3814. (22:22:30) (Pain) and just do shit only we could see and know
  3815. (22:22:34) (Pain) thats sort of liek this place
  3816. (22:22:37) (Pain) just more publicly
  3817. (22:22:41) (pharmer) yea
  3818. (22:22:45) (Pain) blackout is on the right path, but hes goig about it all wrong
  3819. (22:22:50) (pharmer) just imagine this place with a little more hardcore detail
  3820. (22:22:51) (Pain) i dont have the heart to tell him
  3821. (22:22:56) (pharmer) and all of us on the same page
  3822. (22:22:56) (Pain) cuz he'll close this place in a second
  3823. (22:23:13) (pharmer) nah dont do that
  3824. (22:23:21) (pharmer) whats he doing wrong though
  3825. (22:24:39) (Pain) hes too trusting
  3826. (22:24:49) (Pain) he knowssome of these people
  3827. (22:24:58) (Pain) but he doesnt know they'll slit his throat in a heart beat
  3828. (22:25:08) (Pain) i was here 5 minutes and figured that out
  3829. (22:25:24) (pharmer) lol
  3830. (22:25:31) (pharmer) so its not really a collective unit
  3831. (22:25:34) (pharmer) everyone for themselves
  3832. (22:25:44) (Pain) this is a rom full of red teamers and greyhats
  3833. (22:25:47) (Pain) im just spectating
  3834. (22:25:51) (Pain) room
  3835. (22:26:02) (pharmer) thats all ive done here is spectate so far
  3836. (22:26:41) (Pain) im yawning like a fucking cow over here
  3837. (22:26:45) (Pain) i might burn a fag and pass out
  3838. (22:26:54) (Pain) i have to get up 'early'
  3839. (22:26:56) (pharmer) burn a fag?
  3840. (22:26:56) (pharmer) lol
  3841. (22:26:57) (Pain) noon is early for me
  3842. (22:27:00) (pharmer) oh a cig
  3843. (22:27:03) (Pain) goddamn english..
  3844. (22:27:05) (Pain) yes
  3845. (22:27:05) (pharmer) lmao
  3846. (22:27:41) (pharmer) its funnier to me cause i really thought you were about to give some fag online the business
  3847. (22:28:57) (Pain) blackout is gay
  3848. (22:29:01) (Pain) and i wouldnt
  3849. (22:29:04) (Pain) i do liek him
  3850. (22:29:11) (Pain) only because he like mr Pickles
  3851. (22:29:17) (Pain) im not one to slit his throat
  3852. (22:29:26) (Pain) but i will distance myself in no time if it comes ot hit
  3853. (22:29:30) (Pain) so far hes given me no reason
  3854. (22:33:56) (pharmer) FuZi0N has also connected with this IP using the nick[s]: FuZi0N-OVH-GLITCH,the,defiler,sushi,FuZi0N_
  3855. (22:34:01) (pharmer) what a dirty motherfucker lol
  3856. (22:34:13) (Pain) say wat
  3857. (22:34:21) (Pain) fuZi0n i actualyl like
  3858. (22:34:25) (Pain) though i think hes a canadian fed
  3859. (22:34:28) (Pain) me and him go back
  3860. (22:34:33) (Pain) quite awhile
  3861. (22:34:35) (pharmer) i know but those are all the nicks he's used
  3862. (22:34:38) (pharmer) as fuzi0n.fuzi0n
  3863. (22:34:39) (pharmer) lol
  3864. (22:38:57) (Pain) lol
  3865. (22:39:05) (Pain) sorry
  3866. (22:39:06) (Pain) operign atm
  3867. (22:39:25) (pharmer) all good i see you are busy
  3868. (22:42:16) (Pain) wel lthats dying down
  3869. (22:43:09) (Pain) anyway
  3870. (22:43:15) (Pain) that is something of what i wanted to do
  3871. (22:43:20) (Pain) but you cant have egos in one room
  3872. (22:43:23) (Pain) it rarely ends well
  3873. (22:43:35) (Pain) ego death is something all hackers speak of
  3874. (22:43:42) (Pain) no one goes int odetails as to howthough
  3875. (22:47:53) (pharmer) ego death is something people have to work on as individuals
  3876. (22:48:08) (pharmer) ive never heard of that as a group thing
  3877. (22:48:18) (pharmer) ego death is just getting rid of your inner dialogue and allowing creativity to flow
  3878. (22:48:22) (pharmer) no negativity
  3879. (22:48:27) (pharmer) no thinking of past or future
  3880. (22:48:30) (pharmer) just being in the moment
  3881. (22:48:37) (pharmer) and speaking on creation
  3882. (22:48:39) (pharmer) nothing more
  3883. (22:48:52) (pharmer) anything else regarding your life or anything like that would be inner dialogue
  3884. (22:48:54) (pharmer) and emotion
  3885. (22:48:56) (pharmer) thats not ego death
  3886. (22:49:00) (pharmer) thats being caught up in your ego
  3887. (22:49:22) (pharmer) ego death happens on a lot of hallucinogens
  3888. (22:49:23) (pharmer) lol
  3889. (22:50:29) (pharmer) heres like 7 steps of ego death
  3890. (22:50:35) (pharmer) 25 Ways To Kill The Toxic Ego That Will Ruin Your Life
  3891. (22:50:35) (pharmer) Adopt the beginner's mindset. ...
  3892. (22:50:35) (pharmer) Focus on the effort—not the outcome. ...
  3893. (22:50:36) (pharmer) Choose purpose over passion. ...
  3894. (22:50:36) (pharmer) Shun the comfort of talking and face the work. ...
  3895. (22:50:36) (pharmer) Kill your pride before you lose your head. ...
  3896. (22:50:36) (pharmer) Stop telling yourself a story—there is no grand narrative. ...
  3897. (22:50:36) (pharmer) Learn to manage (yourself and others).
  3898. (22:50:59) (pharmer) work work work and shut up
  3899. (22:51:37) (pharmer) theres no real protocol to ego death its just simply abiding by its rules
  3900. (22:51:47) (pharmer) and not having an ego at all or get fucking removed immediately
  3901. (22:52:04) (pharmer) antipeace wouldnt make it into a group like that
  3902. (22:52:08) (pharmer) his ego is his death
  3903. (22:52:28) (pharmer) btw you didnt hear this from me
  3904. (22:52:35) (pharmer) antipeace stole those 0days
  3905. (22:52:39) (pharmer) from one of those groups
  3906. (22:52:55) (pharmer) to own all that bitcoin
  3907. (22:53:21) (pharmer) he was dropping those 0days to el9 on defiler's server
  3908. (22:53:33) (pharmer) thats literally why he didnt make the cut
  3909. (22:53:37) (pharmer) he was ALL ego
  3910. (22:53:48) (Pain) i can udnerstand that
  3911. (22:53:53) (Pain) everytime an exchange gets hacked
  3912. (22:53:55) (Pain) i think of him
  3913. (22:54:01) (Pain) or millions of dollars go missing
  3914. (22:54:07) (Pain) hes the first on my mind
  3915. (22:54:44) (pharmer) lol
  3916. (22:54:57) (pharmer) dont be surprised when you find out antipeace got hacked by defiler though
  3917. (22:55:11) (pharmer) zmda will tell you straight up
  3918. (22:55:48) (pharmer) duppy is ok, he knows a very strict set of rules
  3919. (22:55:53) (pharmer) and hes limited to ONLY that part of the kernel
  3920. (22:56:11) (pharmer) you ask him anything about development he will recite that information
  3921. (22:57:43) (Pain) lol
  3922. (22:59:34) (pharmer) its funny all of us are hiding something
  3923. (22:59:43) (pharmer) and its generally a lack of knowledge in some field
  3924. (22:59:45) (pharmer) of computing
  3925. (22:59:45) (pharmer) lmao
  3926. (23:00:01) (pharmer) but NONE of us will admit to that
  3927. (23:00:01) (pharmer) why
  3928. (23:00:12) (Pain) i will admit to it in secret
  3929. (23:00:18) (Pain) because i dont feel the need to lie about it
  3930. (23:00:22) (Pain) you can learn if you lie about whaty ou dont know
  3931. (23:00:26) (pharmer) not to yourself anyway
  3932. (23:00:28) (pharmer) thats just stupid
  3933. (23:00:31) (pharmer) lying to yourself lol
  3934. (23:00:35) (Pain) you cant learn*
  3935. (23:00:44) (pharmer) and thats true
  3936. (23:00:52) (pharmer) cant get answered what you already know all of right
  3937. (23:00:59) (Pain) exactly
  3938. (23:01:06) (Pain) some people wil ltake you at your word
  3939. (23:01:09) (Pain) others are trolls
  3940. (23:01:11) (pharmer) thats why i like zmda, rather you want to hear it or not
  3941. (23:01:13) (Pain) and they will dig to get it out of you
  3942. (23:01:20) (pharmer) you are getting shovels of information
  3943. (23:01:23) (pharmer) down your throat
  3944. (23:01:32) (pharmer) and you're going to swallow that shit
  3945. (23:01:52) (pharmer) i hate those kind of trolls
  3946. (23:02:18) (pharmer) the ones that dont know shit, call themselves hackers and watch you go off and speak foreign language to them cause they dont actually know anything about hacking
  3947. (23:02:19) (pharmer) but in reality
  3948. (23:02:21) (Pain) they know enough about something to drill the fact you dont know it
  3949. (23:02:23) (pharmer) you just gave these skids
  3950. (23:02:24) (pharmer) shit to google
  3951. (23:02:24) (Pain) but they dont know it themselves
  3952. (23:02:35) (pharmer) and now youve let them +1 in hacker world
  3953. (23:02:41) (Pain) yep
  3954. (23:02:47) (Pain) ive met so many of them
  3955. (23:02:56) (pharmer) some of them im not even sure if thats what their goal is
  3956. (23:03:05) (pharmer) i think they just like to bother hackers
  3957. (23:03:10) (pharmer) its like being billy badass
  3958. (23:03:19) (pharmer) if you act like billy badass
  3959. (23:03:25) (pharmer) eventually billy badass comes around
  3960. (23:03:34) (pharmer) and that happens over and over
  3961. (23:03:41) (pharmer) cause eventaully everyone thinks they are a billy badass
  3962. (23:03:45) (pharmer) at some point in time in their lives
  3963. (23:03:56) (pharmer) they will get on drugs, get drunk, feel overhyped cause they just ate good food
  3964. (23:04:16) (Pain) one universal truth ive learned
  3965. (23:04:21) (Pain) if you talk shit about someone long enough
  3966. (23:04:23) (Pain) they'll come to you
  3967. (23:04:29) (Pain) this is how i used to find people
  3968. (23:04:33) (Pain) now i just let them come to me
  3969. (23:04:36) (pharmer) haha yea thast 100% true
  3970. (23:04:46) (pharmer) you are RIGHT about that unless they are scared of the server
  3971. (23:05:12) (pharmer) ive seen storm scared to go on certain servers
  3972. (23:05:41) (pharmer) cause his game is ddos
  3973. (23:05:44) (pharmer) and he's not that good at it
  3974. (23:05:48) (pharmer) so others like to ddos him just cause
  3975. (23:05:50) (pharmer) lol
  3976. (23:05:54) (pharmer) especially people i hung around
  3977. (23:07:07) (Pain) lol
  3978. (00:00:00) » Day changed to Sunday (25 Nov 2018)
  3979. Session Time: Sun Nov 25 00:00:00 2018
  3980. Session Time: Sun Nov 25 00:00:00 2018
  3981. Session Close: Sun Nov 25 06:46:00 2018
  3982. Session Close: Sun Nov 25 21:52:40 2018
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