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- zondag nov 27
- 12:59 - Niðstång: Hey
- 12:59 - Sasalty: hey
- 12:59 - Sasalty: we have an offi today
- 12:59 - Niðstång: correct
- 13:05 - Sasalty: i need a merc
- 13:06 - Niðstång: sure, we might need one as well but I don't really have the time atm
- 13:07 - Niðstång: I'll talk with you later this afternoon
- 13:07 - Sasalty: yeah dw,i'm still waiting for an answer tho
- 15:28 - Sasalty is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 15:32 - Niðstång: jep, ze gebruiken Hiper als default merc
- 15:32 - Niðstång: oops, wrong chat sorry P:
- 15:36 - Niðstång: Could we use this guy as a merc? http://etf2l.org/forum/user/111563/
- 15:38 - Niðstång: He played engi in season 9 and 10, but he's going to play spy for us
- 15:39 - Sasalty: i know that he is a spy main xd
- 15:39 - Sasalty: anyway
- 15:40 - Sasalty: you are a team of mid/high players,why would you need a mid spy?
- 15:41 - Niðstång: well, the only guy of us that played higher than hl open is Aubriac and Pingu
- 15:42 - Niðstång: all the others only played open highlander
- 15:42 - Sasalty: 6s counts as well
- 15:42 - Niðstång: I don't see how 6s will help on cp_steel tbh
- 15:45 - Sasalty: still
- 15:45 - Sasalty: you are sandbagging open,i don't see how a mid spy qould influence your victory,you could roll us easily even with a div 8 spy
- 15:46 - Sasalty: anyway,'i'll tell you later
- 15:46 - Niðstång: I see that differently, 5 of our 9 player never played higher than open, even if you take 6's into account
- 15:55 - Sasalty is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 15:56 - Sasalty: you know that you are sandbagging,don't lie,it doesn't change anything
- 15:58 - Sasalty: anyway,that's not the point
- 15:58 - Sasalty: why would i accept a mid spy as merc?
- 15:59 - Sasalty: also,a good flank can easily carry steel
- 16:01 - Sasalty: personal experience :/
- 16:01 - Niðstång: 1. I'm sure we both can agree we can play on mid level.
- 2. Vinegar finished second to last in mid in S10, and he also hasn't won a single game this season in high/mid
- 16:03 - Sasalty is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 16:03 - Sasalty: man,i know vinegar
- 16:03 - Sasalty: i played a shitton of lobbies with him
- 16:03 - Sasalty: and he played a lot of matches with under
- 16:04 - Sasalty: an italian friend of mine
- 16:04 - Sasalty: i know his skill level
- 16:05 - Niðstång: doesn't change the fact that (with all respects), he didn't really achieve anything
- 16:05 - Niðstång: tombah is good sniper, but that doesn't make the people that play with him good as well
- 16:05 - Niðstång: *are good as well
- 16:19 - Sasalty is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 16:19 - Sasalty: that's not the point
- 16:19 - Sasalty: the point is
- 16:19 - Sasalty: you already have a god demo and sniper,strong flank and cmbo,why would you need to take a mid spy
- 16:20 - Sasalty: even if he is the worst spy in mid,still mid
- 16:20 - Niðstång: I'm not sure if you are aware, but getting a dutch spy that knows what he's doing isn't easy
- 16:20 - Niðstång: Getting a dutch player in the first place can be a challenge
- 16:21 - Sasalty: i feel you
- 16:21 - Sasalty: i'm italian
- 16:21 - Sasalty: but stil
- 16:21 - Sasalty: you don't need a good spy to roll us
- 16:22 - Niðstång: I'm 100% we will roll you, I don't know if you've checked. But every game we played we had difficulties, and that's because we never scrim.
- 16:22 - Niðstång: Teams like you that scrim often can beat a team with better dm players, especially on steel which need a lot of teamwork
- 16:22 - Sasalty: we didn't scrim this week :7
- 16:23 - Sasalty: difficoulties?
- 16:23 - Niðstång: problems
- 16:23 - Sasalty: 3-1/3-1 vs ater dark
- 16:23 - Sasalty: where ? xd
- 16:23 - Sasalty: 5-1/3-0 vs the spy
- 16:23 - Niðstång: and didn't want to be in our mumble I can ensure you
- 16:23 - Sasalty: i don't see any problem
- 16:24 - Niðstång: the spy were throwing on the second map, and you can see that vs after dark every round was really close
- 16:25 - Sasalty: do you really not have a lower division dutch to play spy?
- 16:25 - Sasalty: you have a guy called "special spy" xd
- 16:26 - Niðstång: He's too lazy to change is name to his actual name, but he only plays pyro basically
- 16:26 - Niðstång: he doesn't even play tf2 anymore afaik
- 16:27 - Sasalty: yeah but dutch community is one of the most popular one
- 16:27 - Sasalty: you have like 20times the italian players
- 16:27 - Niðstång: true, but most dutch players already retired
- 16:28 - Niðstång: the players that I know at least
- 16:28 - Sasalty: i will 99% reject him,so it's better to find another merc tho
- 16:29 - Niðstång: well, and if you think we are sandbagging. We aren't the only one because you are as well. You are the only one that got a legit high player on your team. And beside him, you also have 4 players that played higher than open.
- 16:29 - Sasalty: kes
- 16:29 - Sasalty: did quit tf
- 16:29 - Sasalty: and the difference is
- 16:30 - Sasalty: higher div palyers in my team don't carry tho
- 16:30 - Sasalty: also
- 16:30 - Sasalty: who are the higher div players?
- 16:30 - Niðstång: quitting tf2 doesn't mean you instantly suck, he still has the experience
- 16:31 - Sasalty: fr3ddy has 1 mid match
- 16:31 - Sasalty: and he mercd twice because there are no pyros in germany
- 16:31 - Niðstång: germany probably got the second highest amount of players next to UK
- 16:31 - Sasalty: france is the first imho
- 16:32 - Sasalty: france > ok > germany > nederlands
- 16:32 - Sasalty: uk*
- 16:32 - Sasalty: in our main roster
- 16:32 - Sasalty: we only have kes with higher exp
- 16:33 - Sasalty: subs don't count unless they play
- 16:33 - Sasalty: i'm not counting,tiberius and dr heinz for example
- 16:33 - Sasalty: and we don't have a demo tho
- 16:34 - Sasalty: didn't count malu
- 16:34 - Sasalty: grafur,your point doesn't make sense tbh
- 16:35 - Niðstång: the point that you are sandbagging as well
- 16:35 - Sasalty: ao the fuck is pingo lol
- 16:35 - Sasalty: who*
- 16:35 - Sasalty: we are not,that's why you are wrong
- 16:35 - Sasalty is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 16:36 - Niðstång: higher div players means at least 3 mid matches, so lin (got 3 mid 6's matches) + winning silver
- 16:36 - Niðstång: nico (you played with him yesterday, so I assume he's playing tonight as well) played 3 matches in mid hl
- 16:36 - Niðstång: Superfreddy got 3 officials mid or high/mid
- 16:36 - Niðstång: Dreamcat also played 50% in your officials, already 2 seasons in mid
- 16:36 - Sasalty: dreamcat is sub
- 16:36 - Sasalty: med doesn't really count,neither doesn't engie
- 16:36 - Niðstång: he still plays 50% of the time
- 16:36 - Sasalty: fr3ddy mercd
- 16:36 - Sasalty: he doesn't
- 16:36 - Sasalty: he did because we had no players
- 16:37 - Niðstång: doesn't count is subjective
- 16:37 - Sasalty: not really
- 16:37 - Niðstång: the fact that they have at least 3 matches in mid or higher means they have higher experience
- 16:37 - Sasalty: a med7engie can't carry
- 16:38 - Niðstång: so you are telling me a pyro can carry?
- 16:38 - Sasalty: i don't know who your pyro is tbh
- 16:39 - Niðstång: he's one of the four that got experience higher than open
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