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  1. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I'd say but... I really don't know if EVERYONE is caught up to the end yet. XDˆÁ|] : ' \ ÿ
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  3. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Though... everyone on right now has 80.... So yeah... The whole Hydaelyn is probably just an epic scale primal thing.œÁ|]
  4. :Nana Aimai:WHAT£Á|] : ' \ ÿ
  5. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ ::|´Á|]
  6. :Nana Aimai:I'm kidding¸Á|]
  7. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :lmfao¹Á|] : ' \ ÿ
  8. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I know. :BÀÁ|]
  9. :Nana Aimai:it was on the E3 trailer Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  10. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :You know, that's one thing I don't think Gerel would actually care too much about (even if there's some interesting :eyes in what that means for the star itself and how it has functioned). I mean, beyond it needing to be believed (still came from an Ascian) Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  11. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :. . .We don't actually know wtf primals are Â|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :SE changes their lore every primal release :3cÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  12. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :True facts."Â|]
  13. :Nana Aimai:they just crystal juice*Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  14. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :not even crystal/Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  15. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :You do not need crystal2Â|] : ' \ ÿ S
  16. unsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :just magic and belief=Â|]
  17. :Nana Aimai:Crystals are just magic batteries thoEÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  18. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Epic buttloads of aether, and imagination, apparently.FÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  19. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They're the easiest method butLÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  20. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :we've had summons without crystalseÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  21. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Stormblood really kinda' opened that up.~Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  22. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :But like... if Hydaelyn is a primal... then is the Echo just a form of Tempering?Â|]
  23. :Nana Aimai:the only time I remember there being a summon without crystals was uh.. when Iceheart turned into Shiva outta no where.ŠÂ|]
  24. :Nana Aimai:right before she got blasted¥Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  25. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Weren't there also the knights in Heavensward?«Â|] : ' \ ÿ
  26. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :And the dragon guy in Stormblood.¶Â|]
  27. :Nana Aimai:the knight guys had Nidhog's eyesºÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  28. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :the Kami in stormblood aswellÃÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  29. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :whatshisfaceÄÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  30. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :The Kami too, yeah.ÌÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  31. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :SusanÏÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  32. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :YeahÑÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  33. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Yes. Susan.ÒÂ|] :
  34. Nana Aimai:Dragon guy in SB? Shinryu?èÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  35. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Shinryu didn't have crystals in either of his summons (Nidhogg's eye, Zenos bullshit)êÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  36. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :The one on the roof in the garden.ëÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  37. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :Seiryu's just a SERPENT this gameíÂ|] : ' \ ÿ
  38. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :8(úÂ|]
  39. :Nana Aimai:the eyes were just a ton of aether, which is what the point of crystals are.Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  40. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :The point I was making was that Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  41. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Crystals aren't NEEDED
  42. Ã|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :just a heavy source of magicÃ|]H conditions. ' Ï ÿ Ã|] :Nana Aimai:that's true.,Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  43. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :I'm a primal/Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  44. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :It's been basically confirmed that Primals are just... a physical manifestation of will, through magic./Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  45. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :I'm the entire nation of DomaZÃ|] : ' \ ÿ
  46. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :And... do the moogles even use it for the King Moggle Mog?\Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  47. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They also have the ability to manifest in a person who can seemingly control and maintain full sentience regardless of that manifestationzÃ|] : ' \ ÿ
  48. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :(Shiva is fucking weird but this is also seen in Tsuyu and Zenos)Ã|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :(I hate Zenos)Ã|] :
  49. Nana Aimai:Tsuyu used the power of that mirror to be able to change into whats-her-face Ã|] :
  50. Nana Aimai:Like how Zeno's fancy ame-no-shirababababa sword gives him the powa²Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  51. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :She used an item associated with the Kami that she became a primal version of, yes¸Ã|] : ' \ ÿ
  52. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :(and crystals)»Ã|]
  53. :Nana Aimai:those items were worshiped for a long long time, so they got their prayer juiceÙÃ|] : ' \ ÿ
  54. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Basically: Primals are weird and we still don't really understand themàÃ|] : ' \ ÿ
  55. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :or how they work Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  56. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :I like juice Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  57. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :pray to me
  58.  
  59. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :moodÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  60. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :give me juice Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  61. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Or how one gives someone something like The Echo.Ä|] :
  62. Nana Aimai:the only thing that throws a wrench in the primal plan, would be how Titan, Ifrit and Garuda came outta Midgardsomr when he died0Ä|] :
  63. Nana Aimai:they just shot outta him[Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  64. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Kinky, thanks daddy dragonbÄ|] :
  65. Nana Aimai:that wasn't too long ago lore wise eitherÄ|] :
  66. Nana Aimai:me thinks it was a 1.0 flub‰Ä|] :
  67. Nana Aimai:that just kinda carried overŠÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  68. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :That is uhhÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  69. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :actually likely retconned›Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  70. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :the lorebook just addresses them as manifestations of their respective beast tribes®Ä|] : ' \ ÿ
  71. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :whoi have been An Issueâ„¢ for a Long Timeâ„¢ÌÄ|] :
  72. Nana Aimai:hmmÏÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  73. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :So... I have a question.áÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  74. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Would the Maelstrom have had direct conflict with Leviathan, without the WoL there?ìÄ|] : ' \ ÿ
  75. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They have basically a half page dedicated to them and talking about their mythos and associating them directly to their respective tribe-Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  76. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Yes I do believe all the GCs at this point have dealt with primals in the past before the WoL wiggled inÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  77. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They dealt with them by just!Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  78. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :throwing bodies at the problem&Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  79. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :until it was no longer a problem/Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  80. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Imperial Guard style.CÅ|] :
  81. Nana Aimai:well, I think the big thing is, most of the beast tribes were manipulated by the Ascians to learn how to summon.\Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  82. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Yeah but it's now implied that happened a FUCKTON long time ago.\Å|]
  83. :Nana Aimai:and that happens around when our WoL shows upaÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  84. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :NahhhcÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  85. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :nopeiÅ|]H :
  86. Nana Aimai:but we fight the ascians afterwords}Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  87. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :-official lore hat-ŠÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  88. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Summonings have been happening long before you -- the WoL -- show up.›Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  89. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :*Kanko's the hat. Fills it with popcorn, settles in for story time.*¥Å|] : ' \ ÿ S
  90. unsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They have increased in activity post calamity because of resources but they are not a "new" thing.«Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  91. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :The first time around I read that as Kanko being the hat²Å|] : ' \ ÿ
  92. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :This is addressed in both the 2.0 storyline and the lorebook itself.ìÅ|] :
  93. Nana Aimai:but they don't mention how primals were beaten before we had our WoL?òÅ|] :
  94. Nana Aimai:it seems kinda impossibleöÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  95. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They do mention itüÅ|] : ' \ ÿ
  96. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They actually explicitly mention it Æ|] :
  97. Nana Aimai:which lore book? Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  98. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :Titan's questline in 2.0 MSQ
  99. Æ|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :They used to throw hoards and hoards of people at the Primal until it dies Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  100. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :^ Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  101. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :"Many bothans died to unsummon these things."'Æ|] :
  102. Nana Aimai:man, that's wild when you really think about it.MÆ|] : ' \ ÿ
  103. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Imagine how many people would have died if the WoL hadn't stopped the Ultima Weapon when they did?lÆ|] :
  104. Nana Aimai:Ultima Weapon was the answer to fight the primals tho}Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  105. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :In Allag/Garlemald's eyes€Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  106. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Not to sound snippy, but I have actually thoroughly *tore through* this game's lore and have invested a lot of time into fact checking. Beyond being one of the loremasters in the FC, Matt went through a lot of that with me, and I'm friends with the community's primary lore mistress.‚Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  107. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :I actually do†Æ|] : ' \ ÿ
  108. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :know what I'm talking about xDÆ|] : ' \ ÿ
  109. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ :Though for the Ascians it was just a tool to bring Zoddy Arch back Æ|] :
  110. Nana Aimai:huh®|] :
  111. Nana Aimai:I guess I just won't talk lore stuff, since ya got all the answers.·Æ|] :
  112. Nana Aimai:my bÅÆ|] : ' \ ÿ
  113. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :It's okay to provide answers but when I say, "Actually it's XYZ," I've . . . done the fact checking to confirm that. xDÐÆ|]G :
  114. Nana Aimai:I didn't doubt youíÆ|] : ' \ ÿ
  115. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I think the point is less of an "I'm right, you're wrong" thing, and more of a "I'm here to help you figure it out."úÆ|] :
  116. Nana Aimai:came across more the formerÇ|] : ' \ ÿ
  117. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :It's late. People are tired. ^^; Ç|]
  118. :Nana Aimai:you're a tireÇ|]
  119. :Nana Aimai:that's not trueÇ|]
  120. :Nana Aimai:I'm sorry. Ç|] :
  121. Nana Aimai:you a people*Ç|] : ' \ ÿ
  122. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :"You spin me right round baby right round..."2Ç|] : ' \ ÿ
  123. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :It's also a bit in response to the retort received when I was explaining GCs fought primals and have been around for a while.gÇ|]
  124. :Nana Aimai:ah.. all rightyoÇ|] : ' \ ÿ
  125. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :So... as the GCs have engaged primals before.. would it be okay to claim that Kitani has personally encountered Leviathan in her time in the Malestrom?wÇ|] :
  126. Nana Aimai:Let's just drop it and move on.†Ç|]G : ' \ ÿ
  127. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Kitani is asking a perfectly fair question and I am double checking if there's a hard date on Levi's official attacks prior to the one we participate inÁÇ|]H :: '  ÿ Hò ô Iò õ î‚» I H Of the 12 parties currently recruiting, all match your search conditions. ' Ï ÿ ÊÇ|] :
  128. Nana Aimai:oh, I wasn't referring to thatÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  129. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :In 1566 the Company of Heroes fought and defeated Levi with the Barracuda<È|] :Nana Aimai:what was that guy?È|] : ' \ ÿ
  130. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I vaguely remember that being mentioned in the Costa story.@È|]
  131. :Nana Aimai:OLE TIDYIÈ|] :
  132. Nana Aimai:That we had to smash a rock or something?NÈ|]
  133. :Nana Aimai:the roe with the thongUÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  134. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Yeah.YÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  135. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :That took about a yeareÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  136. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Do we know how long before MSQ that was?hÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  137. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :cause the Admiral hired them in 1565yÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  138. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :... Fuckin' time bubbles.ˆÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  139. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :That was pre-Game›È|] :
  140. Nana Aimai:1.0 was like 1570 something¼È|] : ' \ ÿ
  141. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Kitani has been in the Maelstrom for like... 8 or 9 years or something.öÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  142. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I'm not seeing good chances that she's encountered Levi.øÈ|] : ' \ ÿ
  143. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :if we're going by FC timeline then shheeeeeeee gods math4É|]
  144. :Nana Aimai:fc timeline?EÉ|] : ' \ ÿ
  145. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Pearl operates on a 1:1 bases instead of Square's stupid time bubble É|]
  146. :Nana Aimai:the bubble time is pretty lame¤É|] :
  147. Nana Aimai:just give us years, SEßÉ|]
  148. :Nana Aimai:it doesn't change anything but means so much for us RPersÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  149. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :We're on year 11 post calamity Ê|]H :: '  ÿ Hò ô Iò õ î‚» I H Of the 9 parties currently recruiting, all match your search conditions. ' Ï ÿ Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  150. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :As of this Rising1Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  151. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :which means she would have missed the 1560s Levi8Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  152. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Yeah.?Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  153. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Was the next one the WoL?WÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  154. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :I believe that's the next one we have officially documented.gÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  155. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Yeah... so that one's outta' the question, then.pÊ|] :
  156. Nana Aimai:I think Levi popped up in through the maelstromƒÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  157. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :I'm trying to figure out if she could have actually encountered a primal.…Ê|]
  158. :Nana Aimai:2.1, 2.2 I think‘Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  159. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :That's the one Kitani is referencing when she says WoLžÊ|]
  160. :Nana Aimai:yep. just saying that's the earliest one. Ê|] : ' \ ÿ
  161. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Mmh, yeah.§Ê|]
  162. :Nana Aimai:for however many years ago that wasªÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  163. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :*most recent one¸Ê|]
  164. :Nana Aimai:yeeshËÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  165. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :She's dropped a few casual comments about having engaged a primal while in service... But I may have to retcon that.ÙÊ|] : ' \ ÿ
  166. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Maybe it was just a monster she -assumed- to be a primal.ÜÊ|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :I'm just making the correction because there were earlier Levis in the timeline. xDñÊ|] :Nana Aimai:Well, we were talking about WoL involved levi-action
  167. Ë|] : ' \ ÿ
  168. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :We are talking about primals, their history, and if Kitani has involvement in them, Nana.Ë|] : ' \ ÿ
  169. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Please stop picking fights with me. x.xË|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Titan, possibly, was also a Maelstrom-involved primal @ Kitani. Ë|] :
  170. Nana Aimai:Are you srs right now+Ë|] : ' \ ÿ
  171. Kitani Qinan Kitani Qinan ' Ï ÿ :Oh my god... Please stop.^Ë|]
  172. :Nana Aimai:I'll just disengage this conversation.yË|]
  173. :Nana Aimai:Sorry if you thought I was picking a fight. I wasn't.àË|]
  174.  
  175. ===THIS NEXT SECTION IS A PRIVATE MESSAGE EXCHANGE.I did format some of this because it's awfully confusing, as it doesn't show my display name. The next section after this is the unedited version. ====
  176.  
  177. Sunsgerel Monsara:Okay, Nana. I am going to take this here for a moment. Throughout the night you have been argumentative and considerably hostile. This is me giving you an official warning that your behavior in FC tonight is stepping out of line. Regardless of if you intended your words to come across hostile, they've been received by all parties as such, and I think maybe if you don't intend to be hostile that time should be taken to reflect on how you can improve.
  178.  
  179. Sunsgerel Monsara:Responding to things like, "Yeesh," asking for sources when you're corrected, etc are not polite nor beneficial to a healthy conversation.
  180. [me]:May I have a response?
  181.  
  182. Sunsgerel Monsara:You're welcome to respond but the stance of this being an official warning doesn't change.
  183.  
  184. [me]:That's perfectly fine! I understand why you are giving me this warning. I would like to explain though. Please give me a moment to type it up.
  185. [me]:To be perfectly candid with you. it was a perfectly fun conversation until you mentioned that you 100% new the lore, and you should never be questioned. Not everyone knows everything. I think it was a real jerk thing to say to a new member. I even said I was dropping that part of the conversation and moving on. I did ask for a source on these things because I want to go and read them myself. Many people believe they know the lore as good as the back of their hand, but that's not always the case.
  186. [me]:The other night I had someone explain to me Raen lore, and they were actually wrong. Despite them saying they were "99.999999%" So I like to check things that I've gotten wrong or misunderstood.
  187. [me]:Again. I'm sorry that my 'doubting your lore knowledge' was considered harassment or even rude. I did what I would do with anyone while discussing things. I'll take this interaction as a learning experience to simply not engage such conversations
  188.  
  189. Sunsgerel Monsaran:And to be perfectly blunt with you: I'm the leader of this free company. My word on lore -is- the law as stated in our policies. Furthermore, you are putting a whole lot of words in my mouth. I did not say I "100%" new the lore and that I should "never be questioned." But your responses to me correcting you had been outright dismissive and that ultimately prompted me putting my foot down and telling you that I actually do know what I am talking about. While people may not be correct about lore
  190. Sunsgerel Monsaran:- in your experience, I own the lorebooks, keep a detailed log of the lore, and have rewatched and re-experienced questlines *several* times. I won't say I'm always right, I've been corrected in the past, I am say the way you handled that conversation was poor. You were corrected, as a new member, by its guild leader. I'm sorry you perceived it as me being a "jerk" but if you cannot be corrected then perhaps this isn't the FC for you."
  191.  
  192. [me]I'm sorry if you think I feel that I can't be corrected. I didn't intend to come across that way. I'll make sure to be more careful with what I say from now on.ÉÎ|]H
  193.  
  194. ====UNEDITED PRIVATE MESSAGE below this line
  195.  
  196.  
  197. : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Okay, Nana. I am going to take this here for a moment. Throughout the night you have been argumentative and considerably hostile. This is me giving you an official warning that your behavior in FC tonight is stepping out of line. Regardless of if you intended your words to come across hostile, they've been received by all parties as such, and I think maybe if you don't intend to be hostile that time should be taken to reflect on how you can improve. Ì|]
  198. : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Responding to things like, "Yeesh," asking for sources when you're corrected, etc are not polite nor beneficial to a healthy conversation. Ì|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :May I have a response?AÌ|]
  199. : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :You're welcome to respond but the stance of this being an official warning doesn't change.aÌ|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :That's perfectly fine! I understand why you are giving me this warning. I would like to explain though. Please give me a moment to type it up.qÌ|]H :: '  ÿ Hò ô Iò õ î‚» I H Of the 9 parties currently recruiting, all match your search conditions. ' Ï ÿ ÇÌ|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :To be perfectly candid with you. it was a perfectly fun conversation until you mentioned that you 100% new the lore, and you should never be questioned. Not everyone knows everything. I think it was a real jerk thing to say to a new member. I even said I was dropping that part of the conversation and moving on. I did ask for a source on these things because I want to go and read them myself. Many people believe they know the lore as good as the back of their hand, but that's not always the case.Í|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :The other night I had someone explain to me Raen lore, and they were actually wrong. Despite them saying they were "99.999999%" So I like to check things that I've gotten wrong or misunderstood.\Í|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :Again. I'm sorry that my 'doubting your lore knowledge' was considered harassment or even rude. I did what I would do with anyone while discussing things. I'll take this interaction as a learning experience to simply not engage such conversations.eÍ|]
  200. : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :And to be perfectly blunt with you: I'm the leader of this free company. My word on lore -is- the law as stated in our policies. Furthermore, you are putting a whole lot of words in my mouth. I did not say I "100%" new the lore and that I should "never be questioned." But your responses to me correcting you had been outright dismissive and that ultimately prompted me putting my foot down and telling you that I actually do know what I am talking about. While people may not be correct about lore+ÀÍ|]
  201. : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :- in your experience, I own the lorebooks, keep a detailed log of the lore, and have rewatched and re-experienced questlines *several* times. I won't say I'm always right, I've been corrected in the past, I am say the way you handled that conversation was poor. You were corrected, as a new member, by its guild leader. I'm sorry you perceived it as me being a "jerk" but if you cannot be corrected then perhaps this isn't the FC for you."Î|]F" :: ' ÿ
  202. Kaito Nagano Kaito Nagano ' Ï ÿ has logged out./Î|] : ' \ ÿ Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :I'm sorry if you think I feel that I can't be corrected. I didn't intend to come across that way. I'll make sure to be more careful with what I say from now on.ÉÎ|]H :: '  ÿ Hò ô Iò õ î‚» I H Of the 9 parties currently recruiting, all match your search conditions. ' Ï ÿ ­Ï|]
  203.  
  204.  
  205. ====I received this message on discord after being kicked outta the discord server.===
  206. Hello Nana,
  207.  
  208. After thorough review of tonight's events, management has come to the conclusion that this free company is not the right one for you. We will be removing you from out platforms following this message. Thank you again for your interest. We hope that you find what you're looking for elsewhere.
  209.  
  210. - [MP-RP] Management.
  211. ==Small Note. Once you're removed from a discord server, you can't send messages to anyone you're not a friend of. I couldn't even repy to this message.===
  212.  
  213. ==This is what happened in-game before I was removed.==
  214. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ has logged in.òç|]
  215. [me, another PM I sent to her]:I'm sorry.. I thought I had recieved a warning? Did I mess something else up?/è|]
  216. : ' \ ÿ
  217. Sunsgerel Monsaran Sunsgerel Monsaran ' Ï ÿ :"New members have a trial period and will be watched during their first two to three weeks in the company. They may be subject to removal if they exhibit consistent problematic behavior during the trial period." -- Beyond citing the rules, I suspect you know why you are being removed at this point. I really do hope that you find an FC better suited to you.5è|]9
  218. ::You are discharged from “Midnight Pearl.”7è|]9 ::Your private chambers have been demolished. All possessions can be retrieved from a resident caretaker.Qè|]
  219.  
  220. [me]:I respect your decision. Thanks for having me for when you did. Best of luck to you.`è|] : ' ÿ
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