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  1. (Bits and pieces of older conversations I've had with Big Mac. 2h interview comes after)
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  3. [13/05/2013 11:41:44 PM] Legendary: there's only four people in the entire fandom that are older than me, and all have since left :<
  4. [13/05/2013 11:42:35 PM] Tom' /♥/: Ah well, the /b/ threads had four original namefags, Grannie !Smith, Big !Macintosh, Rainbro !Dash and the last that I forgot
  5. [13/05/2013 11:42:48 PM] Legendary: applejack
  6. [13/05/2013 11:42:59 PM] Tom' /♥/: There =p
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  8. [13/05/2013 11:59:27 PM] Tom' /♥/: So I met Granny Smith, you and Rainbro Dash
  9. [13/05/2013 11:59:31 PM] Tom' /♥/: Just got AJ left
  10. [13/05/2013 11:59:39 PM] Tom' /♥/: And I will know the secret of your powers
  11. [13/05/2013 11:59:39 PM] Legendary: AJ's long gone v_v
  12. [13/05/2013 11:59:55 PM] Legendary: I haven't seen AJ since...april derpychat.
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  14.  
  15. ==(This is a complete, unedited, uncut conversation I had with Legendary, aka BigMcin!tosh, aka Ponychan's first !!Pinkie Pie, aka current MLPchan !!Big Mac.
  16. I thank him for his patience and answering my questions for 2 hours)==
  17.  
  18. [12:29:36 AM] Tom': Hey Legendary
  19. [12:29:38 AM] Tom': got a moment?
  20. [12:29:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  21. [12:29:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: what up?
  22. [12:31:01 AM] Tom': you know I'm interested in the early history of the fandom, on /b/ and /co/, I know "starshine tells it better" but the fact is starshine's almost never there
  23. [12:31:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: fair enough
  24. [12:31:17 AM] Tom': Would you mind telling me your story, from the start?
  25. [12:31:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: oh lord...
  26. [12:31:28 AM] Tom': Yes.
  27. [12:31:33 AM] Tom': lord indeed
  28. [12:31:34 AM] Tom': :3
  29. [12:31:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: :P
  30. [12:31:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: around setember I was watching tv and saw a commercial for ponies
  31. [12:32:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it had that really shitty looking vector of twilight and one in the same style for applejack
  32. [12:32:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't pay much attention to it, but I have friends who are animators
  33. [12:32:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't consciously realize it
  34. [12:32:44 AM | Edited 12:32:52 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but it was at this point that I wondered why there were ponies on my tv
  35. [12:33:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: this would have been the first instance that I had seen ponies at all
  36. [12:33:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Around October, I was in a /b/ truth/dare thread (0-4 truth 5-9 dare)
  37. [12:33:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I rolled a dare, and my dare was to go to a board of someone elses choosing
  38. [12:34:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: they chose /co/ and thus, for a week I had to go to /co/ every day instead of /b/
  39. [12:34:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't post much
  40. [12:34:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but it was around this time that I saw the very first pony thread
  41. [12:34:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I remembered seeing it on tv
  42. [12:34:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: so I went in and posted, famously getting the fith post in the thread
  43. [12:35:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: (MUCH later, like a year and a half later, it came to my attention that the thread I was posting in were NOT the archive no pony threads)
  44. [12:35:18 AM] Tom': is there a cap of that anywhere?
  45. [12:35:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: nope
  46. [12:35:23 AM] Tom': ah dammit
  47. [12:35:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the threads that were archived were done by archive!nopony
  48. [12:35:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the thread I was in had no archive of them ;-;
  49. [12:35:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: now
  50. [12:35:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: many people like to believe that I had taken the name big mac really early
  51. [12:36:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but the truth is that I didn't have the big mac name until the first or so thread on /b/
  52. [12:36:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but
  53. [12:36:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: people knew who i was anyway
  54. [12:36:45 AM] Tom': Was that much later?
  55. [12:36:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: because I avatar fagged as big mac
  56. [12:36:53 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah, it was a while
  57. [12:37:04 AM] Tom': like a month?
  58. [12:37:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the first threads on /b/ happened around the 2nd of the month
  59. [12:37:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I had found ponies on october 10th
  60. [12:37:31 AM] Tom': kk
  61. [12:37:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I avatared as big mac, and was one of the few who done so
  62. [12:37:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and my typing style was based off of his
  63. [12:37:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: so people knew that it was me
  64. [12:37:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yyyyyyyup instead of eeeeeeeyup
  65. [12:37:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: -3-
  66. [12:38:03 AM] Tom': Hah, got it
  67. [12:38:13 AM] Tom': but you took the name on /b/
  68. [12:38:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  69. [12:38:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the big gap in my timeline though
  70. [12:38:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: was that I had been posting in the alice threads under the name VanGuard Prophet!(some random ass trip)
  71. [12:38:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after the alice threads, I went to go check back on the pony threads
  72. [12:39:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was welcomed with open arms upon my return
  73. [12:39:10 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I couldn't give you a date
  74. [12:39:19 AM] Tom': Around january?
  75. [12:39:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but it would have been sometime between the 12th and the 24th of jan
  76. [12:39:29 AM] Tom': all good
  77. [12:39:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the dark days were upon us
  78. [12:39:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but we didn't know
  79. [12:39:55 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and to be quite frank, it only powered our love even more
  80. [12:40:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: converting more and more posters everyday
  81. [12:40:10 AM] TimeFlowMovement: they hated us, and we just loved them
  82. [12:40:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: they gave us a common enemy to fight against
  83. [12:40:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: we loved our ponies, and their hatred for us only made us stronger.
  84. [12:40:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: eventually this all came crumbling down
  85. [12:41:00 AM] Tom': Yeah, and that was before the bans, even
  86. [12:41:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't post a whole lot during the great banning, and I took my name off for it so that I wouldn't be banned
  87. [12:41:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: bans started getting handed out a lot
  88. [12:41:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but, I was gone before the great wall of ban in march
  89. [12:42:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I had moved to derpychat, and from there (through rain bro dash, blazing starshine, and crimson risk, and last, but CERTAINLY not least, nature blossom) I found out about ponychan a while before it went public
  90. [12:42:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was given the private link a day or two before it went public
  91. [12:42:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and I made my first post on the 12th of feb
  92. [12:42:44 AM] Tom': Was it active before the bans?
  93. [12:42:48 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yes
  94. [12:42:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was
  95. [12:42:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the ban storm happened in march
  96. [12:43:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ponychan happened in early feb, long before the great wall of bans
  97. [12:43:24 AM] Tom': I see. Where did its population come from ?
  98. [12:43:29 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /b/
  99. [12:43:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: a tiny amount of /co/
  100. [12:43:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but mostly /b/
  101. [12:43:36 AM] TimeFlowMovement: oh
  102. [12:43:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and equestria daily, right at the start
  103. [12:43:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and derpyhoovesnews
  104. [12:44:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was made a janitor on the 18th I think? Of feb
  105. [12:44:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and then on march first I was made a mod
  106. [12:44:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: severals things happened that are a long and stupid story, but I was fired on the 22nd and 23rd of march
  107. [12:44:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and it was at this point that I started posting in HAY
  108. [12:44:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and then, well..
  109. [12:44:53 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ponychan happened.
  110. [12:45:09 AM] Tom': You were fired from the staff o the 22nd? or your actual job?
  111. [12:45:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: member of the staff of ponychan
  112. [12:45:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was unemployed at that point in my life
  113. [12:45:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was like, 14
  114. [12:45:41 AM] Tom': Hahah, all good
  115. [12:46:02 AM] Tom': At that point you weren't all that active on /b/ anymore right?
  116. [12:46:09 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I wasn't hardly at all
  117. [12:46:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I lurked but never posted
  118. [12:46:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: watching aeris was fun -3-
  119. [12:46:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: about a year later I came back
  120. [12:46:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I met you at that point.
  121. [12:46:31 AM] Tom': How was Ponychan?
  122. [12:46:36 AM] TimeFlowMovement: in it's early days?
  123. [12:46:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: gold.
  124. [12:46:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: fucking gold
  125. [12:46:43 AM] Tom': What went wrong?
  126. [12:46:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: orange
  127. [12:46:56 AM] Tom': Who knew who he was? Who was he even?
  128. [12:47:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the admin
  129. [12:47:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: everyone knew he was the admin
  130. [12:47:05 AM] Tom': I know that
  131. [12:47:10 AM] Tom': I mean where did he come from
  132. [12:47:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: we...
  133. [12:47:16 AM | Edited 12:47:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I don't know to be honest
  134. [12:47:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I heard he was making a chan
  135. [12:47:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: in derpychat
  136. [12:47:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I don't recall ever seeing his name on /b/ or /co/
  137. [12:47:52 AM] Tom': Apparently he was a lurker on /b/. I should ask him myself.
  138. [12:47:57 AM] Tom': anyway
  139. [12:47:58 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that sounds right
  140. [12:48:03 AM] Tom': So what went wrong with orange?
  141. [12:48:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: on july first
  142. [12:48:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: as per oranges rules
  143. [12:48:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /oat/ had a crack down happen
  144. [12:48:35 AM] Tom': Why?
  145. [12:48:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I can't remember to be honest
  146. [12:48:48 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was a very stupid reason in hindsight
  147. [12:49:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: a lot of fun things happened though
  148. [12:49:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was still friends with many members of the staff
  149. [12:49:20 AM] Tom': So people got banned en masse.
  150. [12:49:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: not really..
  151. [12:49:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: their fun was just taken away
  152. [12:49:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the feeling of /oat/ died that day
  153. [12:49:45 AM] Tom': So more rules, etc
  154. [12:49:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  155. [12:49:48 AM | Edited 12:49:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: exactly.
  156. [12:50:06 AM] Tom': But you were on HAY, which was on /chat/ am I right?
  157. [12:50:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  158. [12:50:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was posting in HAY daily
  159. [12:50:16 AM] Tom': How was that?
  160. [12:50:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: HAY was nice in the early days
  161. [12:50:28 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was round 2 or 3 of joiners
  162. [12:50:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I wasn't the first group, though some consider me to be
  163. [12:50:55 AM] Tom': Did you never leave HAY? How come we never met on pchan?
  164. [12:51:00 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I breifly "dated" a member named snowball
  165. [12:51:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I left HAY
  166. [12:51:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: around...july ish
  167. [12:51:14 AM] Tom': Oh, that'd explain it. Where to?
  168. [12:51:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I lurked hard
  169. [12:51:29 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I...I really fell out of the community at that point
  170. [12:51:32 AM] TimeFlowMovement: summer of grade 9..
  171. [12:51:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I posted on /oat/ every now and again
  172. [12:51:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I posted in the random threads on /chat/
  173. [12:52:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I believe I met starshine around this time too
  174. [12:52:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: OH
  175. [12:52:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the other thing
  176. [12:52:13 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I started talking in bronychat at this point
  177. [12:52:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: was made a mod
  178. [12:52:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ect ect
  179. [12:52:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: still am ;P
  180. it's a complete and utter shithole
  181. [12:52:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but it's MY complete and utter shithole
  182. [12:52:45 AM] Tom': LOL
  183. [12:52:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: XD
  184. [12:52:53 AM] Tom': so when did you get back into it?
  185. [12:53:04 AM] TimeFlowMovement: peptalk from starshine
  186. [12:53:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that would have been...early august
  187. [12:53:19 AM] Tom': 2011
  188. [12:53:24 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  189. [12:53:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: gunthor would get...gunthored
  190. [12:53:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: when did gunthor come into play
  191. [12:53:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that must have been like
  192. [12:53:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: early 2012
  193. [12:53:54 AM] Tom': What's all the deal with gunthor? I remember a whole bunch of drama
  194. [12:53:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was made a mod
  195. [12:54:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: in the end
  196. [12:54:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was
  197. [12:54:04 AM] TimeFlowMovement: A MASSIVE
  198. [12:54:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: MAAAAAASSSSSSSSSIIIIIIVE
  199. [12:54:10 AM] TimeFlowMovement: conspiracy
  200. [12:54:16 AM] Tom': conspiracy?
  201. [12:54:21 AM] Tom': by whom?
  202. [12:54:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he wanted to get orange fired because he didn't agree with oranges ways
  203. [12:54:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he wanted to be made a co admin
  204. [12:54:44 AM] Tom': And how did he make sure he was made a mod?
  205. [12:54:52 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he found out that crimson was a mod
  206. [12:54:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: befriended him
  207. [12:55:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and well, from there he was made a mod
  208. [12:55:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it's no secret that the mods on ponychan around that time were all just friends of one another.
  209. [12:55:36 AM] Tom': "befriended"? I heard something more along the lind of first he dated him, then dated another mod... or was that someone else
  210. [12:55:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that was gunthor
  211. [12:55:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ...kinda
  212. [12:55:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it
  213. [12:55:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it's complicated
  214. [12:55:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: cross would be the right person to ask about gunthor
  215. [12:55:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: gunthor is
  216. [12:56:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after all, the reason cross was modded
  217. [12:56:03 AM] Tom': I'll do that, Keep going
  218. [12:56:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and cross and whelp (but mostly whelp) are the reason why gunth was fired
  219. [12:56:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: [that was fucking epic >3>]
  220. [12:56:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after gunthor, I moved back to /b/ for about a month
  221. [12:56:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was modded on lunachan at...some point
  222. [12:56:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and lunachan was where I posted a lot
  223. [12:57:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't post on ponychan much at all
  224. [12:57:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: lunachan became HAY's home away from home
  225. [12:57:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: so now, I was talking to people on skype, lunachan, bronychat, and basically places that weren't ponychan
  226. [12:57:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: OH
  227. [12:57:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: OH
  228. [12:57:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: OH
  229. [12:58:01 AM] Tom': when was the move to lunachan for you? August-September?
  230. [12:58:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was modded at that time
  231. [12:58:09 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  232. [12:58:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't post much on ponychan till december
  233. [12:58:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: in which I posted in /b/&f
  234. [12:58:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was perma'd from ponychan on jan 2nd
  235. [12:58:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: 2012
  236. [12:58:42 AM] Tom': When was !!Spike a thing? Who were they? That was before right?
  237. [12:59:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: spike was Steven!MagnetoHOW
  238. [12:59:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Like
  239. [12:59:41 AM | Edited 12:59:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the really popular and famous steven magnet
  240. [12:59:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: everyone loved him
  241. [12:59:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was the first real, well, ponychan celebrity
  242. [1:00:05 AM] Tom': But he was a pretty harsh mod as I understand it
  243. [1:00:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  244. [1:00:09 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he wasn't a very good mod
  245. [1:00:13 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but he was popular
  246. [1:00:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was fired in the summer
  247. [1:00:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that's all I really remember about that
  248. [1:00:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was in the skype group where it happened
  249. [1:00:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that would have been the first "illuminati" group
  250. [1:00:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: had all of the big players
  251. [1:00:52 AM] TimeFlowMovement: doc lee, steven, cross, whelp, moony,
  252. [1:01:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: a number of others that I can't really remember
  253. [1:01:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: all of the mods
  254. [1:01:18 AM] Tom': you mean one of those groups that were having all the "political" talk that ruled the site
  255. [1:01:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: pretty much
  256. [1:01:27 AM | Edited 1:01:28 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that's mostly a myth
  257. [1:01:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: or at least
  258. [1:01:36 AM] Tom': moony wasn't a mod at the time though
  259. [1:01:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I wasn't in those rooms
  260. [1:01:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I am aware
  261. [1:01:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: BUT
  262. [1:01:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was popular
  263. [1:01:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and if you were popular
  264. [1:01:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: you were in that room
  265. [1:01:51 AM] Tom': wait who's doc lee>
  266. [1:01:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and if you were in that room
  267. [1:02:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I..I don't even know how to begin to tell you who doc lee is
  268. [1:02:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: doc lee was a popular poster
  269. [1:02:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was much like highschool
  270. [1:02:28 AM] TimeFlowMovement: except the popular kids liked me
  271. [1:02:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: kind of
  272. [1:02:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I don't know
  273. [1:02:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: some did
  274. [1:02:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: some didn't
  275. [1:02:52 AM] Tom': ok.
  276. [1:03:10 AM] Tom': So that's around the time /oat/ and ponychan started kind of being very pissed at the moderati9on
  277. [1:03:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  278. [1:03:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: no
  279. [1:03:19 AM] Tom': I guess all that mod drama had made them distrust them
  280. [1:03:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that was a few months later
  281. [1:03:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: with gunthor
  282. [1:03:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: gunthor started the mass mod hatred and distruss
  283. [1:03:36 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was the seed of distrust, basically
  284. [1:03:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: man
  285. [1:03:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: fucking
  286. [1:03:42 AM] Tom': But _he_ was the one who
  287. [1:03:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: READ WHAT I JUST TYPED
  288. [1:03:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: READ IT
  289. [1:03:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: HOLY FUCK
  290. [1:03:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: THIS IS ALL FOR PONY SITE DUDE
  291. [1:03:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: A FUCKING SITE
  292. [1:03:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ABOUT
  293. [1:03:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: PONIES
  294. [1:04:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I can't
  295. [1:04:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I'm incapable
  296. [1:04:13 AM] TimeFlowMovement: this is fucking ridiculous
  297. [1:04:25 AM] Tom': Okay so the guy literally did all this, then when he was uncovered he decided to start a mass hate against the system
  298. [1:04:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: no..
  299. [1:04:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: his firing was very public
  300. [1:04:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: actually
  301. [1:04:53 AM] TimeFlowMovement: mod hatred started long before that
  302. [1:04:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: mod hatred started around june
  303. [1:05:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: when mods started being forced to be less lenient
  304. [1:05:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: july was the true drop
  305. [1:05:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: because on july first /oat/ was dealt a critical blow
  306. [1:05:24 AM] Tom': By Orange. Did some of the mods say no to orange?
  307. [1:05:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: !!Twilight
  308. [1:05:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and myself, but I had been fired at this point
  309. [1:05:52 AM] TimeFlowMovement: none of the mods wanted to lose their job, so they just silently complied
  310. [1:06:43 AM] Tom': !!Twilight was Cross Breeze right. But he wasn't fired
  311. [1:07:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: no
  312. [1:07:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the original twilight
  313. [1:07:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: cross was !!Twilight V2
  314. [1:07:28 AM] TimeFlowMovement: oh
  315. [1:07:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the other thing
  316. [1:07:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was "blackmailed" by cross and gunthor in august
  317. [1:07:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: november he was fired
  318. [1:07:46 AM] Tom': But if he was already in the gunthor drama he was !!Twi in summer right? Also whattttt
  319. [1:07:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: (gunthor)
  320. [1:07:52 AM] Tom': oh ok
  321. [1:08:00 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the original twi
  322. [1:08:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: quit because of something in regards to !!Spike
  323. [1:08:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: spike was hired because of !!Twi
  324. [1:08:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: NO
  325. [1:08:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: wait
  326. [1:08:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: oh
  327. [1:08:36 AM] TimeFlowMovement: fuck
  328. [1:08:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: sorry
  329. [1:08:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: !!Spike flipped shit at celestia because !!Twilight quit
  330. [1:08:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: !!Twi was seriously unokay with the way orange was running things
  331. [1:09:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and resigned
  332. [1:09:10 AM] Tom': Ok.
  333. [1:09:26 AM] TimeFlowMovement: !!Octavia was hired after that
  334. [1:09:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: got in close with orange (kinda)
  335. [1:09:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and cross and gunthor started trying to get me to tell them who was feeding me information
  336. [1:09:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I had had three "leakers"
  337. [1:10:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Crimson, Starshine, and to very small degree, !!Derpy
  338. [1:10:13 AM] Tom': Someone was giving you info about the pchan staff and they didn't like it?
  339. [1:10:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  340. [1:10:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I also had the mod cookie
  341. [1:10:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and knew the link to the staff board
  342. [1:10:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: so I just kinda watched everything that happened there..
  343. [1:10:55 AM | Edited 1:10:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but not much really happened there
  344. [1:11:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: most of what I learned was because people told me who the mods were
  345. [1:11:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: there was a magical mystical time where people didn't know who the ponychan mods were
  346. [1:11:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that's one of the reasons I was fired actually
  347. [1:11:31 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I never even bothered to attempt to hide it
  348. [1:11:47 AM] Tom': Yeah. they only "revealed" their names much later
  349. [1:11:55 AM] TimeFlowMovement: indeed
  350. [1:11:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but
  351. [1:12:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I knew who each one was well ahead of time
  352. [1:12:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the only one's I didn't were like
  353. [1:12:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: 34
  354. [1:12:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and flutterguy
  355. [1:12:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the rest I knew really quickly
  356. [1:12:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: cross and hipster and a few others I figured out all on my own
  357. [1:12:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that was really cool -3-
  358. [1:13:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: anyway
  359. [1:13:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after all of that
  360. [1:13:12 AM] Tom': Do you know what lead to them revealing their names, much later on? Was it to try and cool down the criticism against them?
  361. [1:13:29 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it's said that orange realized that it wasn't working at all
  362. [1:13:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and to "increase transparency"
  363. [1:13:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was perma'd in jan
  364. [1:13:42 AM] Tom': That totally worked.
  365. [1:13:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and then I left to go do other things
  366. [1:13:52 AM] Tom': Until MLPchan.
  367. [1:13:55 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I bronychated, lunachanned
  368. [1:13:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: not quite
  369. [1:13:59 AM] Tom': Oh
  370. [1:14:01 AM] Tom': sorry
  371. [1:14:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: :P
  372. [1:14:07 AM] Tom': do go on
  373. [1:14:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after I was perma'd I moved back to /b/ to lurk a lot
  374. [1:14:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: eventually, /mlp/ was made
  375. [1:14:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and I became a first day adopter of the place
  376. [1:14:37 AM] Tom': Any particular thread?
  377. [1:14:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: all of em
  378. [1:14:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: anon, naturally.
  379. [1:14:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: there weren't many cereals back in the day
  380. [1:14:55 AM] Tom': thoughts on /mlp/ and how it was/is?
  381. [1:14:56 AM | Edited 1:14:58 AM] TimeFlowMovement: or generals, as they call them
  382. [1:15:00 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I liked it
  383. [1:15:04 AM] TimeFlowMovement: better than it is now
  384. [1:15:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but the pony fandom as it is now will never be as good as it once was for the original brigade
  385. [1:15:24 AM] TimeFlowMovement: which is to say, the channers
  386. [1:15:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: did you know that a massive portion of the fandom doesn't even go on the chans?
  387. [1:15:36 AM] TimeFlowMovement: unbelievable.
  388. [1:15:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: lel
  389. [1:15:43 AM] Tom': The core userbase will always have the privilege of saying that
  390. [1:15:45 AM] Tom': yeah
  391. [1:15:58 AM] Tom': Facebook bronies, etc, most of them don't even know where they came from
  392. [1:16:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: indeed
  393. [1:16:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I have a hearty giggle m8 whenever I tell them ponies started on 4chan
  394. [1:16:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: anyway
  395. [1:16:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /mlp/ was fun
  396. [1:16:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but I began posting and lurking on mlpchan on the first day
  397. [1:17:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I left for two weeks, and then came back
  398. [1:17:08 AM] Tom': it was mostly the /co/ guys who moved there, right
  399. [1:17:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  400. [1:17:15 AM] Tom': Except, well, the /b/read
  401. [1:17:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /b/read
  402. [1:17:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /co/
  403. [1:17:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and other people from other boards congregated in
  404. [1:17:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: after a few months of being there
  405. [1:17:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I decided I wanted to mod the place
  406. [1:17:53 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and started talking to you guys about it
  407. [1:17:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I started helping out on site
  408. [1:18:03 AM] TimeFlowMovement: slowly making you guys like and trust me
  409. [1:18:04 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and then bam
  410. [1:18:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I started talking to thony, who directed me to you
  411. [1:18:27 AM] Tom': who could I ask if I wanted to know more about how /co/ grew, back when pchan was still a new thing?
  412. [1:18:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: whoooooooooooooboy
  413. [1:18:45 AM] Tom': Most useres were like
  414. [1:18:48 AM] Tom': anon
  415. [1:18:49 AM] Tom': >.>
  416. [1:18:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: /co/ on /co/ when /co/ was half a year into it...
  417. [1:18:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: man
  418. [1:19:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that's a tough one
  419. [1:19:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Megasweet
  420. [1:19:08 AM] TimeFlowMovement: the artists
  421. [1:19:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: All of the popular artists
  422. [1:19:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: mad max
  423. [1:19:18 AM] Tom': MS is from /co/ ?
  424. [1:19:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: sargeant sprinkles
  425. [1:19:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: MS
  426. [1:19:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and OH
  427. [1:19:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Cereal Velocity
  428. [1:19:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: all four of those guys are from /co/
  429. [1:20:01 AM] Tom': would starshine know some?
  430. [1:20:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: starshine know some of the artists?
  431. [1:20:10 AM] TimeFlowMovement: uhh..
  432. [1:20:15 AM] Tom': I mean wasn't he from /co/?
  433. [1:20:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I'm doubtful
  434. [1:20:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: nah
  435. [1:20:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was from /b/
  436. [1:20:32 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he ventured back to /co/ to learn about the early days of the fandom and to practice arting
  437. [1:21:31 AM] Tom': I see, well thanks. Thaty 'only' took an hour
  438. [1:21:44 AM] Tom': Got anything else to add to all this? Except that, well, it's not over
  439. [1:22:13 AM] TimeFlowMovement: if I tried to add anything
  440. [1:22:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I'd have to explain a LOT
  441. [1:22:23 AM] Tom': Try me
  442. [1:22:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and I'd be talking for many many hours..
  443. [1:22:29 AM] TimeFlowMovement: well
  444. [1:22:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: what would you like to know
  445. [1:22:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I'm good at answering questions
  446. [1:22:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: not coming up with answers without a question XD
  447. [1:23:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: actually, let me ask you a question
  448. [1:23:18 AM] Tom': How was it in the Ponychan staff? Why wasn't orange tyrannical from the start?
  449. [1:23:23 AM] TimeFlowMovement: oh
  450. [1:23:24 AM] TimeFlowMovement: well
  451. [1:23:28 AM] TimeFlowMovement: my question can wait
  452. [1:23:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it wasn't bad at all
  453. [1:23:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: running ponychan was easy
  454. [1:23:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: like, really easy
  455. [1:23:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I did a lot of work
  456. [1:24:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was one of the (harder) better, faster (stronger) mods
  457. [1:24:27 AM] Tom': you were the first !!Pinkie Pie right?
  458. [1:24:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: indeed!
  459. [1:24:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I should have been !!Big Mac
  460. [1:24:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I probably wouldn't have been fired
  461. [1:24:51 AM] Tom': LOL
  462. [1:24:54 AM] Tom': why?
  463. [1:24:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: no really
  464. [1:24:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I acted like pinkie in my modding style
  465. [1:25:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: which, while people liked me
  466. [1:25:26 AM | Edited 1:25:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I didn't uphold the right image of moderatorship
  467. [1:25:42 AM] Tom': In orange's opinion.
  468. [1:25:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: indubitably
  469. [1:25:53 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but to be fair, I'm a lot different now
  470. [1:26:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: even I look back and disagree with how I modded
  471. [1:26:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: there are a few other things that happened after I was fired and what not
  472. [1:26:21 AM] Tom': Who was the original staff? !!Rd was rainbro dash, you were !!pinkie, !!Celestia was orange
  473. [1:26:24 AM] Tom': who else?
  474. [1:30:22 AM] TimeFlowMovement: !!Rarity - Crimson Risk
  475. !!Fluttershy - Nimble...something. He dropped off the map completely.
  476. !!Pinkie Pie - Yours Truly - Arctic Tempest
  477. !!Applejack - Broffessor Brony (really cool dude, went to Uni, and couldn't do both)
  478. !!Twilight - (!Twilight, was a really cool dude, posted on /b/)
  479. !!Derpy - Cherry!Sundae, really /really/ cool british bro.
  480. !!Scootaloo - Blazing Starshine
  481. !!Rainbow Dash - Rainbro
  482. !!Celestia - Orange Faggot.
  483. [1:30:27 AM | Edited 1:30:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I believe that was the original staff
  484. [1:30:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I don't think I'm missing anyone >_>
  485. [1:31:20 AM] Tom': "last but not least, nature blossom"
  486. [1:31:24 AM] Tom': what was so special about him?
  487. [1:31:34 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I fucking love nature blossom
  488. [1:31:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he and crimson and I had a video we spammed the shit out of
  489. [1:31:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and only one part of it too
  490. [1:31:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: nature gave me some of the most important pep talks of my life
  491. [1:31:57 AM] Tom': what vid?
  492. [1:32:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and he always believed in me
  493. [1:32:07 AM] Tom': what happened to them?
  494. [1:32:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was one of the people he thought would see through his charade
  495. [1:32:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but even I don't know how crazy the dude is
  496. [1:32:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: apparently he was a coder for microsoft
  497. [1:32:30 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he...I don't even know
  498. [1:32:31 AM] Tom': Okay rewind a bit, what
  499. [1:32:39 AM] TimeFlowMovement: alright
  500. [1:32:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: this is a long one
  501. [1:32:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I met nature blossom on /b/
  502. [1:32:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but I also met him more in Derpychat
  503. [1:34:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12N5WfIgm6I#t=1m27s
  504. [1:34:24 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that was the video, starting at the correct time
  505. [1:34:26 AM] Tom': a lot of people moved to Dchat.
  506. [1:34:40 AM | Edited 1:34:43 AM] TimeFlowMovement: VEEEEEEEEEEEEX
  507. [1:34:46 AM] TimeFlowMovement: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
  508. [1:34:55 AM] TimeFlowMovement: fucking every time.
  509. [1:35:09 AM] Tom': LOL
  510. [1:35:44 AM] Tom': okay so
  511. [1:35:48 AM] Tom': Derpychat
  512. [1:35:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: yeah
  513. [1:35:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he and I spoke a lot in there
  514. [1:36:00 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was the Kamina to my Simon, basically
  515. [1:36:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: told me to believe in myself
  516. [1:36:39 AM] Tom': Did he do that a lot, I mean, to many people?
  517. [1:36:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: no
  518. [1:36:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but he inspired people without having too
  519. [1:36:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was a very good speaker
  520. [1:37:01 AM] TimeFlowMovement: good at weaving words
  521. [1:37:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: many people hate him a lot
  522. [1:37:11 AM] TimeFlowMovement: many think he's completely bonkers
  523. [1:37:17 AM] Tom': Is he?
  524. [1:37:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I can't really say they're wrong
  525. [1:37:20 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but I still like the guy
  526. [1:37:28 AM] Tom': what made him nuts?
  527. [1:37:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he drank so much coffee once, that his doctor said that he wasn't allowed to drink coffee ever again
  528. [1:37:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he became depressed after that
  529. [1:37:49 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I always spill out a sip of my coffee for him for that
  530. [1:38:07 AM] Tom': how much coffee are we talking about here
  531. [1:38:15 AM] TimeFlowMovement: like easily a few pots a day
  532. [1:38:27 AM] TimeFlowMovement: his record was like, 18 in a day I think
  533. [1:38:37 AM] Tom': Okay. So he was odd.
  534. [1:38:40 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he was very odd
  535. [1:38:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but he was cool
  536. [1:38:47 AM] TimeFlowMovement: cool as fucking shit
  537. [1:38:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: he had this...
  538. [1:38:54 AM] TimeFlowMovement: just this feeling too him
  539. [1:38:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: you /wanted/ him to lead you
  540. [1:39:04 AM] TimeFlowMovement: you knew that he was going to get the job done
  541. [1:39:11 AM] Tom': similar to moony, ish?
  542. [1:39:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: nah
  543. [1:39:18 AM] TimeFlowMovement: moony was nice
  544. [1:39:21 AM] TimeFlowMovement: moony is like
  545. [1:39:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: a councilor
  546. [1:39:29 AM] TimeFlowMovement: moony is a soft person
  547. [1:39:36 AM] Tom': nature blossom got shit done
  548. [1:39:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I would want moony to be my boss
  549. [1:39:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I would want nature blossom to be my leader
  550. [1:39:50 AM] Tom': I see
  551. [1:40:13 AM] TimeFlowMovement: http://undercdn.under30media.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/boss-vs-leader_264722-624x.jpeg
  552. [1:40:25 AM] TimeFlowMovement: this doesn't really make the boss look good
  553. [1:40:51 AM] TimeFlowMovement: but if moony was the boss everyone in the top would be wearing a coat, would have nice shoes, and moony would take the desk off of the block because he wouldn't want to make it too hard for his workers
  554. [1:41:15 AM] Tom': that's a pretty good comparison
  555. [1:41:22 AM] Tom': what was your question?
  556. [1:42:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I'm just curious
  557. [1:42:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: to what ends are you asking these questions?
  558. [1:47:21 AM] Tom': I realized recently a lot of people, even on imageboards, don't know a lot about the fandom, where they come from. As one of the people who's been like, active for 2.5 years with almost no interruption, I'm in a good position to collect all that info and write up a small history of the imageboard scene. You're one of my rare sources for pre-ponychan stuff
  559. [1:47:35 AM] TimeFlowMovement: ^^
  560. [1:47:59 AM] Tom': I'm mostly writing it for myself but I'll make it available when it's done
  561. [1:48:34 AM] Tom': Now to talk to Cross Breeze
  562. [1:48:36 AM] Tom': :3
  563. [1:48:42 AM] TimeFlowMovement: for the record
  564. [1:48:42 AM] Tom': And Derpychat Tom
  565. [1:48:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: derpy chat tom
  566. [1:48:59 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I
  567. [1:49:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I think that might be !!Derpy
  568. [1:49:10 AM] Tom': Yep.
  569. [1:49:15 AM] Tom': Thus why.
  570. [1:49:16 AM] TimeFlowMovement: :P
  571. [1:49:33 AM] Tom': I have him on skype just because of our names and people adding one or the other by mistake
  572. [1:49:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: XDDD
  573. [1:50:23 AM] Tom': So I might reference all of my chat logs with oldfags as sources, that includes this one
  574. [1:50:33 AM] TimeFlowMovement: :P
  575. [1:50:41 AM] Tom': so if by any chance theres anyone reading this in the future, now's your time to say something for posterity
  576. [1:53:58 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I don't know the future. I don't know what's going to happen. But I know that I've been around long enough to know that if you keep wanting everything to be the like past, you're never going to look forward and see all of the great things that are happening right now. Looking to the past for help is great, but only if you doing it to move forward into the future.
  577. I know that things come and go, and I know that things that seem amazing, like ponychan and /mlp/ in it's early days, and /b/ in it's early days, and ponies in it's early days, but don't delude yourself with nostaligia. You have to go ahead and make new memories to nostalgia over for your future self!
  578. Trust me man, if you relax and let it go, and live your life instead of trying to relive your life, you're going to be a lot happier in the future. Promise.
  579. [1:54:29 AM] Tom': Oh one last thing
  580. [1:54:37 AM] TimeFlowMovement: sure
  581. [1:54:39 AM] Tom': Love and tolerance. When did it start?
  582. [1:54:48 AM] TimeFlowMovement: two different times
  583. [1:54:50 AM] TimeFlowMovement: which is what gets people
  584. [1:54:55 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was first uttered on /co/
  585. [1:55:05 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and had a completely different meaning than it had on /b/
  586. [1:55:12 AM] Tom': as in?
  587. [1:55:14 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and it's meaning now has a completely different meaning from those two things
  588. [1:55:22 AM] Tom': rofl
  589. [1:55:26 AM] Tom': explain
  590. [2:00:38 AM] TimeFlowMovement: Love and Tolerance was basically a meme
  591. [2:00:56 AM] TimeFlowMovement: on /co/ it was a pony meme
  592. [2:01:02 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it wasn't not often said
  593. [2:01:06 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and it didn't have much weight
  594. [2:01:07 AM] TimeFlowMovement: on /b/
  595. [2:01:09 AM] TimeFlowMovement: it was a slogan
  596. [2:01:12 AM] TimeFlowMovement: a way of existing
  597. [2:01:17 AM] TimeFlowMovement: that was when it gained popularity
  598. [2:01:19 AM] TimeFlowMovement: and became important
  599. [2:01:45 AM] TimeFlowMovement: love and tolerance now is either unheard of, or treated with disrespect as BRONY ELELELELELE XXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD AUTISM lel type thing
  600. [2:03:25 AM] Tom': Eh
  601. [2:03:31 AM] Tom': I still believe in the /b/ one
  602. [2:03:50 AM] Tom': Love, tolerance, kindness and friendship are the msot important things anyone can have, really.
  603. [2:03:57 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I agree
  604. [2:05:35 AM] Tom': Well thanks, sorry for kind of
  605. [2:05:40 AM] Tom': making you write for 2h
  606. [2:05:41 AM] TimeFlowMovement: XD
  607. [2:05:44 AM] TimeFlowMovement: dude, no, it's fine
  608. [2:05:48 AM] TimeFlowMovement: I was doing nothing special anyway
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