(12/03/10 11:16:25) otohime1978: ok, so I was thinking this morning in the shower
(11:16:44) otohime1978: about ghost pokemon, ok?
(11:16:55) otohime1978: ghost pokemon are just giant, complex metaphors
(11:19:52) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: do go on, while I beat the crap out of these trolls
(11:20:01) otohime1978: haha
(11:20:03) otohime1978: ok
(11:20:13) otohime1978: they're not actually "real" in the traditional sense
(11:20:20) otohime1978: they are an idea
(11:20:32) otohime1978: an idea or feeling so powerful, it manifested itself physically
(11:20:59) otohime1978: this explains why they're able to change their corporeality at any time
(11:23:28) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: how about they're just supernatural entities that aren't of this dimension so to speak. Also there's the ghost of that mother marowak to bust your theory, as well as Spiritomb, which is a group of souls sealed in a keystone as punishment. Then there's also Giratina, the god of distortion, dimension, and antimatter. He's definitely more than an idea considering he's one of the three lords created by Arceus to maintain the universe.
(11:24:31) otohime1978: yeah
(11:24:43) otohime1978: well, spiritomb is weird
(11:25:25) otohime1978: the mother of marowak the soul of the creature
(11:25:34) otohime1978: and what is a soul but a giant metaphor itself?
(11:27:12) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: so you're soul is just a metaphor
(11:27:19) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it isn't actually real
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(11:28:22) otohime1978: that's not what I meant by metaphor
(11:28:35) otohime1978: smartass
(11:28:36) otohime1978: *pets*
(11:28:46) otohime1978: I'm saying they're not real in a physical sense
(11:29:43) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: because they belong to two seperate dimminsions or locations at the same time
(11:29:43) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: you can't say all ghosts are an idea
(11:29:55) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: if you have two ghosts that aren't ideas but facts
(11:30:07) otohime1978: that's an idea
(11:30:07) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it cancels out your statement
(11:30:16) otohime1978: facts are still ideas
(11:30:16) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: what is
(11:30:20) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: no
(11:30:30) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: because a table isn't an idea
(11:30:37) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it is a fact of life
(11:30:38) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: a solid
(11:30:39) otohime1978: a table carries an idea, though
(11:30:54) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: B|
(11:30:56) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: shut up
(11:30:58) otohime1978: no offense, but learn to metaphysics
(11:31:07) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: you sound really stupid right now
(11:31:22) otohime1978: well, what is a table but something that conforms to a standard of a table?
(11:31:29) otohime1978: a table is an idea
(11:31:37) otohime1978: and there are physical objects which fit within that idea
(11:31:37) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: a table is a flat plane on legs
(11:31:41) otohime1978: yes
(11:31:45) otohime1978: and that right there is the idea
(11:31:46) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it is a surface to put things on
(11:31:52) otohime1978: we just happen to have things that MATCH that idea
(11:31:54) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: no it isn't an idea
(11:31:57) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it is a thing
(11:32:03) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: it doesn't carry anything
(11:32:28) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: the person who made te table had the idea to make the table, but the table itself is just a act of life after the idea was enacted
(11:32:35) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: the table itself is just a table
(11:32:43) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: the person however carries the idea
(11:32:52) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: if you turn your back on a table
(11:32:55) otohime1978: do you mind if I share what you're saying here?
(11:32:57) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: its still there
(11:33:15) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: with who and why
(11:33:57) otohime1978: a couple of people
(11:34:09) otohime1978: Brian, a few atheists
(11:34:19) otohime1978: just wanna hear their responses
(11:34:25) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: whatever
(11:34:38) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: they associate with you and will probably say I'm wrong
(11:34:54) the42jabberwocky@yahoo.com: and then you'll rub it in my face
(11:34:58) otohime1978: they say I'm wrong all the time
(11:34:58) otohime1978: ;;<_<