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- darf - Today at 5:50 PM
- hey thanks for accepting the friend request, we have a shard chat for our arena server and would like to invite you to join us
- LazyProdigy - Today at 5:54 PM
- How many are in it?
- darf - Today at 5:54 PM
- about 20
- when is your payout?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 5:57 PM
- Thanks for reaching out, but i have a hard time justifying screwing over every Tom, Dick, and Harry who tries to make it to the top of arena. I understand the implications of this and am prepared for the consequences. I just see it as ruining the fun of playing a game.
- darf - Today at 5:57 PM
- interesting, mind if I ask you how you came to that conclusion?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 5:58 PM
- I've known about the shard chats for a while, they seem incredibly boring. This is an app game, not your life. That's simply too much effort for something that is just for passing the time. You'll end up getting caught in this whirlwind of boredom and eventually quit the game out of frustration.
- I've seen it happen countless times before, in games and in life.
- darf - Today at 5:59 PM
- I understand, the purpose of this is to protect and share payouts, ensure nobody gets sniped before their payout (which you have done multiple times), meet other people and share opinions and theory, imrpove our teams via discussion and recording videos and so on.
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:00 PM
- That's what guilds are for
- darf - Today at 6:00 PM
- I respect your decision however I would like to know when your payout is, sot hat we dont take your spot if you are in 1
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:00 PM
- Realistically, nobody will keep up with protecting the payouts because they'll think 'someone else will do it' and want to save the crystals
- darf - Today at 6:00 PM
- we've been doing it for months.
- we're all friends in there
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:01 PM
- Not very well if i was able to "snipe" on multiple occasions
- That should be impossible if the system is implemented correctly
- darf - Today at 6:01 PM
- you snieped people in different timezones, we have members from around the world
- not everyones payout is at the same time
- we understand that the system is not ideal, we're just trying to help out and make it better for the top 20
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:03 PM
- What about the non top 20? Even if they're viable to hit top 20, they get shut out from the competition. Which means that every day you'll see the same 20-30 teams, and it will get old.
- darf - Today at 6:03 PM
- then you join the shard chat
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:03 PM
- It's better than it was back with everyone having zaul or nihilus
- Then there is the issue of people with the same payout
- darf - Today at 6:04 PM
- there is a rotation in place
- its fair for all
- no lockouts
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:04 PM
- You trade off? What if one of em isn't able to cut it in time and both lose out
- darf - Today at 6:04 PM
- then we protect them using the other guys from the other timezones
- which we would do for you as well
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:05 PM
- Look, i do appreciate the sentiment, but this just reminds me too much of the mafia, and i have bad history with them.
- I'll keep to myself, you can try to shut me out and i can try to come back in. It isn't ideal, but that's what a game is. A competition.
- darf - Today at 6:06 PM
- I'm sorry to hear that and like I said, I respect your decision and your way to play. I just want to know what your payout is so that we don't snipe you when its your turn. This isnt organized crime, this is just getting together with star wars fans and enjoing a game we love together.
- there is no threats here, we are not going to 'shut you out'
- I'm extending friendship, your choice to turn it down is respectable . I still need to hold on to my values and make the game enjoyable for you regardless.
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:07 PM
- You contradicted yourself. Protecting payouts and shutting out are the exact same thing. I'm fine with getting sniped against, it makes you have to think smarter.
- I won't try to convince you guys
- darf - Today at 6:08 PM
- I have spoken to you so to me this is progress, I will still protect you because I ahve spoken to you now.
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:08 PM
- This is where i stand on it and enjoy the game
- darf - Today at 6:08 PM
- may I please know what time your payout is?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:09 PM
- I do have to admire your persistence though.
- darf - Today at 6:09 PM
- hey I like making friends, you are the first and only one that refused this and to me thats very interesting take on the whole thing
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:09 PM
- But, no. Like i said before, i'll keep that to myself. I'm not looking for benefits or consequences, if they happen i'll deal with em.
- I don't like free things, unless it's food, free food is great
- darf - Today at 6:10 PM
- so its ok for you to snipe others out of their payout but not okay for me to organize it better?
- how is that fair for them?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:10 PM
- My goal isn't to snipe people
- darf - Today at 6:10 PM
- you did snipe people this is what I am trying to avoid
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:11 PM
- My goal is to maintain a rank regardless of what happens to those around me
- darf - Today at 6:11 PM
- and it was sad because it probably wasnt your payout and you denied someone their reward
- for no gain
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:12 PM
- There is always a gain
- darf - Today at 6:12 PM
- what is it
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:12 PM
- Even if it's a small one
- darf - Today at 6:12 PM
- so hurting others is your gain?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:13 PM
- I have never been able to understand the emotions of others in my life. So if people get hurt in the process or feel happy, i am oblivious.
- My gain is a more favorable position that is easier to protect
- And get back to the following day
- darf - Today at 6:13 PM
- you cannot protect yourself in this game there is no defensive teams anymore, everyone can beat everyone
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:13 PM
- That's what makes it interesting
- darf - Today at 6:14 PM
- all you are doing is denying others their reward
- which is griefing
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:14 PM
- You can't rely on straightforward narrow-mindedness anymore
- Look at the bigger picture when you see a problem, and you'll be able to understand the formerly invisible variables present there
- darf - Today at 6:14 PM
- I am relying on friendship and coordination, human characteristics that promote evolution
- working together as opposed to working alone
- to get the most out of the game for everyone
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:15 PM
- Situational
- darf - Today at 6:15 PM
- reality
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:15 PM
- Reality is situational
- You never behave the same way in every single scenario
- Which is why i prefer my freedom to think and move as i wish
- darf - Today at 6:16 PM
- you do in the context of helping others by following a set of rules, its what makes us civilized
- you are free to do as you wish, I just need to know when your payout is and I will leave you alone
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:16 PM
- Very well
- It's at 7pm when daylight savings happens and 6 pm when it isn't. Every day.
- darf - Today at 6:17 PM
- EST?
- or EDT rather
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:17 PM
- No idea
- darf - Today at 6:17 PM
- eastern time? USA?
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:17 PM
- Just know it's 7 PM
- darf - Today at 6:17 PM
- what timezone are you in
- LazyProdigy - Today at 6:19 PM
- It's been fun having this little chat, but i've got to run (quite literally).
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