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- Niryna: I'm gonna yeet to Area 1.
- Niryna: Take care.
- Lotus: So i see 3 new characters who is the 4th one?
- Lotus: Im blind
- Ace: There we go, #server_info done.
- Jontaneous: Magnifique, mon amie!
- Ace: 13 minutes. Too slow.
- Jontaneous: Oui, you are, as z'ey say, very bad, non?
- Herp: Wee.
- Jontaneous: Oui!
- Herp: Wee.
- Jontaneous:
- Jontaneous: O-oui.
- Datz: Seeing Armstrong against an actually decent background is destroying my world view.
- momo:
- Jontaneous: O-oui.
- momo: ... Wh--
- Herp: This is indeed a nice background.
- Herp:
- momo: What's this from? It's awe--
- Herp: we're never seeing it again
- momo:
- Herp:
- Jontaneous: It would be ze shame if somezing were to happen to it, non?
- momo: stop
- D3SU: Understandable.
- Herp:
- Herp: stop what
- Jontaneous: Watch it.
- Jontaneous:
- momo: what is this background frOM
- D3SU: Stopwatch.
- D3SU: hah
- Jontaneous: Get it.
- Jontaneous: Watch it.
- Jontaneous:
- D3SU: Jon.
- Herp: it's not a watch
- Jontaneous: i wish i was dead
- Herp: it's poison
- D3SU: Same.
- momo:
- momo: ... so whatisthisbackgroundfrom
- Herp: Probably a videogame.
- D3SU: 999?
- momo: Is it 999?
- D3SU: No clue.
- Herp: Considering 999 is set on the Titanic.
- Herp: Probably not.
- D3SU: What.
- Lex: I'm back.
- Jontaneous: Welcome back, mon amie.
- D3SU: Welcome back.
- Herp: Hello, Back.
- momo: Welcome back.
- Lex: These backgrounds are beautiful.
- Lex: Can I ban someone?
- momo:
- Herp: That's on the agenda.
- D3SU: Ban me, Da--
- momo:
- D3SU: I mean.
- Lex: I'm not Dan, D3SU.
- momo: oh my god this background what the he--
- D3SU: Yeah, these backgrounds look great.
- momo: wait we're banning dAN?
- Lex: Yes.
- Jontaneous: Z'ere will be bans, you will be banned, per'aps even killed. It shall be fantastique.
- Lex: Dan is being Danned.
- momo: wait what the heck
- momo: oh
- Lex: He did absolutely nothing wrong, so we're danning him.
- momo: oh
- Lex: Fair enough?
- D3SU: Heh. Dan't wait to see the look on his face!
- Jontaneous: Naturellement.
- Armie: Look on who's face?
- Lex: Allow me to just.
- Lex has played a song: After the Verdict ~ Anime.
- D3SU: That pun was so good I might have to go into hiding.
- Jontaneous: Bienvenue, mademoiselle.
- momo: Daaaaaaaamn. New music, new backgrounds. This is quality.
- momo: I don't feel HD enough for this.
- D3SU: This track is top notch. And v
- Lex: I'm going to go contact Cay.
- Lex: Brb.
- momo: oke
- Lex: Omit.
- Jontaneous: I am too flat. I am but a poor sweet young miss, non?
- Armie: No.
- Jontaneous: N-non.
- Armie:
- momo: Praise to Ellie.
- D3SU: I still can't get over how great Armie is.
- D3SU: v
- momo: Hold on, I'm getting Cyther.
- Jontaneous: N'est-ce pas the most fantastique thing?
- D3SU: Yeah, nesty paw, or whatever!
- Jontaneous: I feel like Armstrong's the kind of guy to just throw French words that make no sense into his sentences.
- momo: Yeah. You're right.
- D3SU: Sounds like a poser.
- D3SU:
- Jontaneous: Oui.
- Lex: Anyways. I think this definitely boosts my morale.
- momo: Same.
- D3SU: Ditto.
- Jontaneous: Is z'at why you have z'e resting face of a beaten dog?
- momo: Looks so cool.
- momo:
- Lex:
- Jontaneous: See?
- momo:
- Lex: Go eat beans on toast, Jon.
- Armie: Good one, Jon.
- Jontaneous: Oui.
- momo: oooooooo
- D3SU: Jon, that got me so good. How did you do that?
- Herp: We're going to be waiting a while on Meg, aren't we.
- Jontaneous: Simple. It is z'e accident.
- momo: what got me was the "See?"
- momo: Ahh. Yeah, it might be a bit.
- D3SU: I'm sure Mini will come back soooooon...
- Lex: Hmm.
- Herp: Download speed.
- Lex: Oh, this looks nice.
- momo: WE HAVE A TENT
- momo: YO
- D3SU:
- Lex: Let's conduct our meetings in this tent.
- D3SU: I could totally hide out in here.
- momo: what are these FROM
- Lex: It has a petite flower.
- Armie: I liked the meeting room better.
- Herp: It did fit the vibe.
- momo: meeting room was pretty sick but i also like having a meeting in a tent
- momo:
- Lex: We have a bedroom.
- D3SU: Persona 4!?
- Armie: Why are we in your bedroom, Lex.
- Jontaneous:
- Lex: Who said anything about this being my bedroom?
- momo: i see anime boobs on that calendar
- momo: lex explain urself
- Lex: But I wouldn't mind it compared to the trash I have.
- Herp: The anime boobs are from the game, Catherine.
- D3SU: That's a Catherine calend--
- D3SU: v
- Herp: Notably, Catherine features two girls named Catherine.
- momo: ARE THESE FROM CATHERINE?
- Herp: Well, Catherine and Katherine.
- D3SU: No momo.
- momo: are these backgrounds from catherine
- Herp: No.
- D3SU: This is from Persona 4.
- Herp: Why would Catherine advertise Catherine?
- momo: ... Wait, why can P--
- D3SU: Or, well. P4A.
- Lex: This background will be ideal for ERPs.
- momo: Oh.
- momo:
- D3SU: v
- D3SU:
- Armie:
- momo: Oh.
- Jontaneous: aren't they making a more erotic version of catherine
- Armie: I'll ban you.
- Jontaneous: because that's what we needed
- momo: what
- Herp: Both made by the same company. And not more erotic, no.
- Jontaneous:
- Jontaneous: its
- D3SU: Dang. I mean--
- Jontaneous: that
- momo: That makes sense. Same company.
- Jontaneous: that's what its advertised as
- Jontaneous: herp
- Lex: Let's see, another BG...
- Herp: It isn't.
- Jontaneous: it is
- momo:
- Herp: It is not.
- Jontaneous: it is
- momo: sTop
- Herp:
- Jontaneous:
- D3SU: We could just google it.
- momo: Thanks.
- D3SU: Like civilized people.
- momo: <3
- D3SU: >3
- D3SU: Wait
- Lex: Dear god.
- Lex: This is badass for roleplays.
- momo: vr les go
- D3SU: This bg is cool as hell.
- Armie: Hey, Herp.
- Armie has played a song: MISCELLANEOUS.
- Herp: Hey, Kais.
- Armie: You have the music, right?
- Herp: What music?
- Lex: We just made CC a heaven for roleplays.
- momo: He does.
- Armie: The server music.
- Jontaneous: wait all of the fucking songs have different names now
- Lex: Yeah.
- Jontaneous: i have to relearn all of them
- D3SU: What!?
- Armie: Yes or no, Herp.
- Herp: I know not what you mean.
- Armie: Yes or no.
- Herp: Or.
- Armie: yes no
- D3SU: What a maniac.
- Herp:
- Armie: y/n
- momo: Ah, yes. I remember "Tricks Break".
- Herp: /
- D3SU: v@momo
- D3SU:
- Armie: y m
- Herp: m
- D3SU: yams
- Armie: so maybe
- Lex: yamnation.
- Herp has played a song: Promotional Video Soundtrack ~ T&T.
- momo:
- Lex: Another BG?
- momo: WHAT THE FUCK THIS TRACK IS SO COOL
- D3SU: Woah. This track is sick.
- momo:
- Herp: it's literally trailer music
- momo:
- D3SU: Your point?
- momo: Random Steel Samurai. Okay.
- Armie: Herp.
- Jontaneous has played a song: German Song ~ Solo Of Rage ~ DGS2.
- momo: NIGHT CLUB
- D3SU: Oh, the club! Nice.
- Herp:
- momo:
- Armie: Thanks, Jon.
- Herp: i'm so mad
- Jontaneous: you're welcome
- Lex: What the shit.
- D3SU: ...
- Herp: why the fuck
- D3SU: v
- momo: lol
- Lex: Oh yeah.
- Jontaneous: its a part of the dgs soundtrack
- Jontaneous: eat it nerds
- Herp: did german singing on the fucking radio make it
- Armie: g e r m a n s i n g i n g o n t h e r a d i o
- momo: high five jon
- Jontaneous: suire
- Jontaneous: sure
- momo:
- D3SU: This is an outrage.
- Lex: Where's that bad play performance?
- Herp:
- Lex: From the DGS soundtrack.
- Herp:
- momo:
- Herp:
- momo:
- D3SU: H e r p
- D3SU:
- Megumin:
- Herp: i am suffering
- Jontaneous has played a song: German Song ~ Solo Of Rage ~ DGS2.
- Megumin: herp get the heck out of venus
- Jontaneous: its part of the DGS soundtrack
- Megumin: or die
- Jontaneous: therefore it is required
- Herp: you get out of venus
- momo has played a song: German Song ~ Solo Of Rage ~ DGS2.
- momo has played a song: German Song ~ Solo Of Rage ~ DGS2.
- momo has played a song: German Song ~ Solo Of Rage ~ DGS2.
- D3SU: Megumin, rephrase that please.
- D3SU:
- Megumin: oh
- momo:
- Armie: Are you guys familiar with Snow Halation?
- D3SU: No.
- momo: yes
- momo:
- Megumin: HAHAHA
- Megumin: AHAHAHAHAA
- Jontaneous:
- Megumin: SHOW THEM
- Megumin: DO IT
- Jontaneous: what
- D3SU: ...
- Armie has played a song: Ringtone ~ Klavier Gavin (Guilty Love) ~ AJ.
- Jontaneous:
- Lex:
- momo: you fucking didn't
- Jontaneous: are you fucking kidding me
- momo: fuck you
- Herp:
- Megumin: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Armie: I didn't even.
- Jontaneous: i'm protesting
- D3SU:
- momo: fuck yo u
- Jontaneous: that's it
- Armie: Balance did this.
- D3SU: v@jon
- Jontaneous: no
- momo: THIS IS FUCKING STUPID
- Jontaneous: that's it
- Jontaneous: i'm resigning
- Jontaneous: goodbye
- Megumin: Balance didn't even know it was Snow Halation.
- momo: same
- D3SU: I will rebel against the machine.
- Lex: Oh boy, convenient for when Klavier is getting a call.
- Armie: Mm..
- Herp: why did these get added
- Armie: Time's off, it seems.
- Armie has played a song: Ringtone ~ Klavier Gavin (Guilty Love) ~ AJ.
- Megumin: they should loop honestly
- Herp: they shouldn't exist
- Maya: v
- Armie: They do, but the time is off probably.
- D3SU: It doesn't even sound that good, honestly.
- Maya: this is exactly the kinda shit lobby doesn't need
- D3SU: v
- Herp: v
- Lex: There's a helecopter BG?
- Megumin: Talk bad of Snow Halation, get the fire inhalation.
- Herp: do you see this kais
- Herp: this is the ticking time bomb
- momo: Oh, did the beep of answering a ringtone as a song not get in?
- Maya: um
- Maya: i'm gonna multiclient lobby
- Megumin:
- Armie: Then you should've been dealing with content.
- Maya: because i don't trust these fools
- Lex: Fuck yes, there is a background of the inside of a helicopter.
- momo: Eh?
- Megumin: We're doing an D-DAY RP right now.
- D3SU: Paratrooper RP when?
- Herp:
- Armie has played a song: Ringtone ~ Phoenix Wright (The Steel Samurai) ~ JFA.
- D3SU:
- Megumin:
- Herp: i have done that before y'know
- D3SU: Herp, I swear to god if you do that--
- D3SU:
- momo: Well, now we just can't answer calls. It's fine.
- Lex: Unless there's some sneaked-in soundtrack that just has a phone beep.
- Lex: And nothing else.
- Herp: Can we get on to the meeting?
- momo: I made that as an mp3.
- Armie has played a song: Opening Statement ~ Anime.
- Maya: where the heck is ellie
- momo: Gave it to Balance to make as an opus.
- D3SU: Ellie is probably dazed and confused.
- Armie: I'm not accepting a music track that's literally just a beep.
- D3SU: She just showed up and the server ate die.
- Maya: yet you will accept a music track that is snow halation
- momo: Oh. So, it was in, and you booted it out?
- momo: It was to answer ringtones.
- Lex: Well, Kaiser, now all the roleplays have been ruined.
- momo: v
- Megumin: Snow Halation was being added regardless of what happened. I have Kaiser at gunpoint right now.
- Megumin: omit
- D3SU: Fair.
- Maya: in the morning sun got deleted for this
- Armie: God fucking dammit, why are you blaming what Balance does on me.
- Maya: fuck
- Lex: We can no longer do roleplays.
- Herp:
- Megumin: Why.
- momo: Whatever. It's fine.
- Lex: Moving on from the jokes though.
- momo: Just a small detail. No biggie.
- Lex: Let's get on with the meeting??
- Herp: Please.
- Herp: For the love of god.
- Herp:
- Megumin: I was going to make a joke, but sure.
- Armie: Okay.
- Megumin:
- D3SU: Could we get that link for your Discord overhaul doc, Herp?
- Lex: D3SU looks like he's about to blow that doc up.
- Armie has played a song: Psyche-Locks (Arrange Version) ~ T&T.
- Megumin: v
- D3SU: W-Well, you never know... H-hahaha..
- Herp: All that has to be done now, is well, all of that.
- D3SU: The changes are sweeping, but shallow. It shouldn't be difficult.
- Maya: people are already complaining about the music names being changed
- Maya: and by people i mean AkA
- Megumin:
- Maya:
- D3SU: Oh no.
- D3SU:
- Armie: AkA is a bad prosecutor.
- Maya: yes okay continue
- Megumin: People need to stop whining for every reason.
- Armie has played a song: Mood Matrix ~ Now Commencing Psychoanalysis ~ DD.
- D3SU: So, I guess we should go over the changes one more time for final thoughts?
- Lex: M'kay.
- Megumin: Sure.
- Lex: Oh yeah.
- Lex: momo.
- momo: Yeah?
- Lex: I think very positively of you. That was to answer the question you had before we updated.
- momo: Oh, thanks.
- Lex: I doubt any of us here think anything leaning towards staunchly negative.
- Lex: Just wanted to clear that out of the way.
- Herp: And besides, they wouldn't say anything negative in front of others, out of respect.
- D3SU: To be perfectly clear, will Mantaro be allowed to post in the new Lobby?
- Armie: What do you mean?
- D3SU: "low-quality cute pat and hug chitchat"
- Herp: God no, low-quality, not staff_chat.
- D3SU: Gotcha.
- Megumin: I'd rather if that wasn't allowed in Lobby. I think that freedom in an area as generic as Lobby is important, but that's too much.
- momo: You said not to add it, Kaiser. You lied to me.
- Herp:
- Armie: Excuse?
- momo: You said not to put it in, and then blamed it on Balance.
- Herp: He very clearly said, "I'm not putting in a single beep as a music track".
- Herp: He was referring to snow halation.
- momo:
- Herp: And German singing on the radio, presumably.
- Lex: Uh.
- momo: Okay.
- Lex: Can we even assume that's what they're talking about?
- Megumin: v
- D3SU: ...If there are outstanding issues, let's save them for the end, please.
- Herp: A wise decision, D3SU.
- momo:
- Herp: Are there any other outstanding issues with the discord?
- Lex: One question.
- Lex: The current lobby, is it being deleted or renamed to something else?
- D3SU: It's getting renamed to the Lounge.
- Herp: It'd be best to rename the current lobby to Lounge, to preserve it. ^
- Lex: Okay, good by me.
- D3SU: I've got no objections to any of it. Looks golden.
- momo: Can we save the history channels?
- Herp: That should be a given.
- Lex: Archived much yes.
- Herp: We already discussed this on, Monday was it?
- Herp: Five days ago.
- momo: Yeah. But, they're not listed on the doc.
- D3SU: Reaffirmation isn't a big deal, I don't think. And v
- momo: And the doc says to delete all non-inputs.
- Herp: Archive and history channels are staff channels, no?
- Megumin: Sorry, I had to do something. Are we having final thoughts on one by one?
- momo: Nah, they aren't.
- Herp:
- D3SU: Not really in any specific order, but yeah, Mini.
- Megumin:
- Lex: We're going over pressing concerns, Gugu.
- momo: What? They're not staff.
- Armie: Who?
- Herp: That seems to me to just be added clutter for non-users.
- Herp: uh
- Herp: new users
- D3SU: Are staff the only ones that can see the history channels?
- D3SU: Oh, guess not.
- Megumin:
- Megumin: what
- momo: ... Sure. We can make it that way.
- Megumin: Archived channels or History channels should be staff-only to avoid clutter.
- D3SU: v
- Herp: ^ otherwise it's pointless to do this.
- Megumin: They're just there to preserve the logs anyways.
- momo: Okay.
- Lex: Plus, history still remains.
- D3SU: Very true.
- Armie: I misremembered, but I didn't directly told him not to add it, I just didn't think it was a good idea.
- momo: I can just, drag them to the Administrative rooms then.
- Herp: kais
- Herp: that wasn't needed
- momo: ... No, thanks for clarifying though.
- D3SU: I think it was considerate of Kaiser to search that up.
- momo: Yeah.
- momo: It was.
- D3SU: Mini? Any final concerns on the discord changes?
- D3SU:
- Armie: Can I work through some of the changes on the Discord changes?
- Megumin: Sorry, I was reading the doc.
- D3SU: No worries. Just take your time.
- D3SU: What do you mean, Kais?
- Armie: Welcome chat is ready to be deleted.
- D3SU: Oh, getting started, you mean.
- Lex: Self-reinforcing.
- D3SU: I don't see why not.
- Lex: Herp, define that.
- Herp: Sounds good to me.
- Maya: Uri's just mentioned that we've missed a few duplicate files in the clean-up. Apparently Santa has multiple gif emotes in his folder that are the same, but unused.
- Herp: Self-reinforcing. We moderate it to such an extent that the begin to self-police the channel.
- Lex: What makes that different from backseat moderating?
- Megumin: v
- Herp: It's convenient.
- D3SU:
- D3SU: Fair.
- Lex:
- Lex: Still backseat moderating, something I thought we were against.
- Herp: We're against it when it's rude, unpleasant, or challenges actual moderation.
- Herp: Or when it's straight up wrong.
- Jontaneous:
- D3SU: Backseat moderation isn't inherently negative.
- momo: This brings the Megumin-Rainy conflict to mind.
- momo: The one today.
- Lex: In my opinion, you should just get rid of that entire clause.
- Megumin: I'm completely against all forms of backseat moderating. I can see creating a culture of following the rules and encouraging following the rules, but when certain conditions are met then it's trouble.
- Herp: That's been resolved. And Lex, it's not really a "clause" per se.
- D3SU: ...I don't think I follow.
- Lex: We're practically doing the same thing we've been doing.
- momo: Resolved?
- momo: Oh, that's good.
- Herp: Yes. It's the same as usual.
- momo: Right.
- Herp: Lex, let me put it another way.
- Herp: It's people saying "#arcade"
- Megumin: what's been resolved
- Herp: when people are talking too much about videogames
- momo: Eh?
- Herp:
- momo:
- Herp: You've been resolved. We've been over it, Meg.
- Herp:
- momo: Yeah, we're not on it anymore.
- momo: You're fine.
- Lex: Okay, so would you say that's convenient or backseat moderating?
- Herp: Convenient.
- momo: Both.
- momo:
- D3SU: v
- Jontaneous:
- Megumin: here's a great difference
- Megumin: people following the rules =/= people reinforcing the rules like a mod
- momo: Well, what if people nudge others to follow the rules?
- Herp: Politely.
- Lex: Nudging is fine.
- Megumin: v
- Herp: That's the goal.
- momo: That's like, convenient.
- Herp: Now we're on the same page. That's good.
- Jontaneous: Unless you wanna watch #lobby all day every day.
- Lex: I have no life, I can do that if I wanted to.
- Lex: E.
- Herp:
- D3SU: Lex, you poor soul.
- D3SU: E
- Herp: Shall we move on?
- Megumin: Sure.
- D3SU: Yes, let's.
- momo:
- momo: Oh, yeah.
- momo: Let's move it along.
- Lex: Regular_Session_List.
- Lex: Staff controlled?
- Herp: We discussed this previously.
- momo: That's a cute idea. I like that.
- Lex: Can we review it once again?
- Megumin: can i have two examples of this channel being used
- Megumin: for reference
- Herp: It's a form like suggestions.
- Herp: It's for weekly/daily/whatever RP and gamemode events.
- momo: How do we put that in again?
- Herp: I don't know.
- Megumin:
- Lex: You threw in an undeveloped idea into developing the Discord?
- Herp: I'm not the bot guy.
- Megumin: Uh.
- momo: We have a bot guy?
- Megumin: Herp.
- D3SU: It'd just be through a google survery or something, right? Like in suggestions. Not a big deal.
- Megumin: By adding that idea, we assumed you already had the means to do so.
- momo: Yeaaaah, not a big deal. We know how to do it.
- Megumin: do we
- Megumin:
- Lex: I still find the use of this channel confusing.
- Herp: We already do have the means to do so. #suggestions has the template.
- D3SU: v
- Herp: And it's basically to save on needless pings for the same thing every week at the same time.
- momo: So, do we just like, move the bot over?
- Herp: Ask Funky. He knows.
- Lex: How would the process work, Herp?
- Lex: I know one thing for certain is that CMs will use this.
- Jontaneous: That bot is still run by Funky, though. Wouldn't it be better to replace it with the same template?
- Lex: And that there's a form involved. Otherwise, not much other than that.
- momo: Or, does Funky run two of them?
- Jontaneous:
- Herp: They answer the form. The form spits into the channel. We check the form. We delete it when the sessions stop.
- Jontaneous: Hm.
- Lex: And if technical difficulties occur for the CM?
- Lex: And thus, unable to run it at the appointed time?
- Herp: They can inform their players.
- D3SU: That can be handled via a ping in the channels.
- Lex: It sounds overly complicated.
- Herp: It's rather simple.
- Megumin: Honestly, v@Lexi
- Megumin: It sounds like a hassle.
- momo: ... I'm with Herp on this. I still think it's cool.
- D3SU: Me too.
- Herp: It's straight up the opposite of a hassle.
- D3SU: v
- D3SU: It's an autonomous message baord, essentially.
- D3SU: The CMs throw up a date and time and the players can refer back to it.
- Herp: You can see, "Oh, hey, this thing happens every week at this time. I'll go to it."
- D3SU: Right!
- Herp: Instead of waiting on the ping and never making that connection.
- momo: Kaiser's been implementing stuff all this time.
- Megumin: Oh, I see. Let me see if I got this straight.
- D3SU: What a trooper.
- Jontaneous: I suppose. Although I don't know of many things that happen weekly other than Kate's Kitchen right now.
- Herp: Good on him.
- Jontaneous: But that might be because I don't do roleplays.
- D3SU: There's Kusu's thing.
- Herp: I know Kusu did one called Enago.
- Lex:
- Megumin: This is a separate channel from searching spontaneous gamemodes/RP's, and it's used for regular things. So, if let's say, a game of Uno happens every week, they post the message there. Right?
- D3SU: Yep yep.
- Herp: If it's a scheduled weekly thing, yeah, sure?
- momo: But, they don't post a message.
- momo: They fill out a form.
- Jontaneous: Still think its niche, but its harmless I suppose.
- Megumin: They use the form, yes.
- Herp: And it remains there forever.
- D3SU: Until the event ceases.
- momo: Until we delete it.
- Megumin: Until I delete them for no reason.
- Megumin:
- momo:
- Herp: And doesn't get pushed out by on the spot pings, which is the most important part.
- Herp: Everything there, is stuff that happens, and you'll know it'll happen.
- momo: It's pretty cute.
- Megumin: So pinging for spontaneous events like a random GoM still happens in a different channel, right?
- Herp: Yes.
- momo: Right
- Herp: They aren't regular events.
- Lex: I'll give it a tentative pass.
- Lex: I have to see it executed to really come to a decision.
- Jontaneous: As I said, its harmless. If it gets unused, we'll just get rid of it.
- D3SU: If I get off my lazy ass and finish writing my RPG, I'll have a post up in there in the near-ish future.
- Megumin: I guess it can work as a learning experience.
- Lex: Okay, well.
- Herp: And I'll be running classes and case clinics through there too.
- Megumin: I would rather have something like this with a bigger playerbase, though.
- Lex: vvvv
- Herp: I presume momo will be doing their case analysis too through it, on a regular basis.
- D3SU: What kind of classes, Herp?
- Megumin: tank rp classes
- Herp: Oh, y'know. Everything.
- Megumin: honestly i still want to replay tank rp
- Lex: I want to address something that just came up.
- D3SU: I'll see if I can make it to some of 'em, then. I'm sure there's plenty I have to pick up.
- Lex: Ellie's message in #staff_discussions.
- Megumin: Hm?
- Herp: Is it an emergency, or can it wai-
- Herp: That can wait.
- D3SU: It's cute, but it can wait.
- Lex: 'Kay.
- Megumin: v
- Lex: Hmmm.
- momo: Oh. I could put my case analysis in there too, yeah.
- Lex: Okay.
- Lex: So no one has objections to casing_advice, right?
- Herp: We've been over it.
- D3SU: Oh, momo. Remind me to message you after this meeting ends.
- Lex: In case anyone had new thoughts or ideas.
- Lex: I'm rechecking.
- momo: Oke.
- Megumin: We did talk about this before last time. Although, it's great to recap so we make sure nothing gets slipped by without everyone knowing.
- momo: ... Y'know.
- Lex: Hm?
- momo: I get the frustration with wanting to get things through, without endless deliberation and setbacks.
- Herp: That's not the source of the frustration.
- momo: It's not?
- Herp: No.
- momo: What is it?
- Herp: This tangent. Is there anything else?
- momo: ... Thanks, Herp.
- momo: Whatever. Continue the meeting.
- Lex: Unnecessarily rude, Herp.
- Lex: Moving on.
- D3SU: I know you mean well, momo, but we're in the middle of this.<3
- Lex: What happened to that channel for...
- Lex: I believe it was videos?
- Lex: Are we holding off on that?
- Herp: Ah, yes. I wanted to bring that up.
- momo: Staff videos and logs.
- D3SU: Ah. Good call, Lex.
- Herp: Which category would you suggest it to go into?
- D3SU: Administrative Rooms, yes?
- momo: Casing, Gaming and Events.
- momo: Wait.
- momo: It wasn't staff videos and logs.
- momo: What was the old title?
- Herp: It wasn't staff, no. Just videos and logs, I believe.
- Lex: Correct.
- Lex: videos_and_logs
- D3SU: Entertainment, then?
- momo: Yeah. It would go into Casing, Gaming and Events, since it's doc and video records of experiences.
- momo: Like, player runs of cases. Stenographer central.
- Lex: Recorded roleplays, yaddi yada.
- momo: Right.
- Lex: It's well snug in there.
- Herp: Excellent.
- momo:
- momo: Moving on.
- Lex: TV_Movies_Music_etc...
- Lex: I'm not opposed to the idea of changing it to Watch_Listen_Read.
- Lex: Anyone else?
- Herp: I like it, but I also think it sounds dumb as heck.
- Megumin: v
- Herp: Like, so dumb it's good.
- D3SU: I think the new name is cute. All good by me.
- Lex: momo?
- momo: ... Yeah, I'm not opposed to the rename either.
- momo:
- Megumin: I think it sounds a bit meh.
- Megumin: tbh
- Herp: I really miss not having TV at the start.
- Herp: TV is a really snappy first word.
- D3SU: You just have bad tastes, Mini.
- D3SU: omit
- Megumin: i get that a lot
- D3SU: <3
- momo: Well, I think watch_listen_read fits with videos_and_logs.
- momo: Like, similar length and style and such.
- Lex: That's a reasonable thought.
- D3SU: v
- Megumin: Honestly, if I were to pick a name, it would be something to do with the word "media"
- Megumin: but this works too honestly
- Herp: oh_dear_its_media
- momo: What about just, "media"?
- momo: Or, is that way too small?
- Lex: multi-media?
- Megumin: I think smaller is better.
- D3SU: Having fun channel names is important.
- D3SU: Fight me.
- Megumin: All_Media?
- Lex: mediaverse?
- Megumin: media channel
- Megumin:
- momo: ... Now I'm attached to watch_listen_read.
- Herp: media_corner
- Megumin:
- momo:
- Lex: walt_disney?
- Herp: disney_land
- Megumin: tv_room
- D3SU: It's the staff colors all over again.
- D3SU: omit
- momo: It is.
- Megumin: Blue was bad by the way.
- D3SU: Blue is always good.
- momo: The Chefs liked that blue.
- Lex: Can we swap colors?
- Megumin: i'll like your blue
- D3SU: But I think the name given in the doc is good.
- momo: ... I guess.
- Megumin: watchlistenread
- momo: v
- momo:
- Megumin:
- Lex: Hmm.
- momo: watch_listen_read
- D3SU: v
- momo:
- Lex: Oke, we can do that, albeit I was hoping for something like Mediaverse.
- Megumin: watch-listen-read
- momo: Mediaverse is cute.
- Megumin: I liked media_corner
- D3SU: Names can be changed whenever.
- momo: media_corner is also cute.
- Lex: Let's change the name everyday.
- Lex: Omit.
- momo: media_corner is the most thematically fitting.
- Megumin: mediaverse_corner_for_watching_listening_reading
- momo:
- Herp: So, shall we revisit naming at a later date, post-implementation?
- momo: Nah.
- Megumin: Yes.
- D3SU: I think that'd be best.
- Megumin: I'm super picky with names.
- momo:
- D3SU: Same.
- momo: We have to name them to put them out.
- D3SU: Nicknaming my pokemon takes ages.
- momo: And it's not hard.
- Herp: We have the default name.
- Jontaneous: ...are you guys really still arguing about this
- D3SU: We can just leave it as is, if we're so divided.
- momo: ... Alright. As is.
- Megumin: stuff_corner
- Herp: Next.
- D3SU: Mini, shoosh.
- momo: Though, media_corner was the clear right answer.
- D3SU:
- momo:
- momo: Fight me.
- D3SU: Later.
- Lex: Rolebot...
- Lex: Are we using any new bot for this?
- momo: How will role_bot work?
- Herp: It's just the same as the current role channel, until you sort out that idea of yours.
- Lex: Is there a bot out there who can assign by pressing reaction buttons?
- momo: ... Oh. With, reacting to get roles?
- Herp: Just with less clutter and a clear pinned instruction. And yes, such a bot exists.
- Lex: Can we use that?
- D3SU: No.
- D3SU:
- Herp: Hopefully.
- Lex: But why.
- Megumin: No more than six-five mines for each paragraph of explanation, by the way.
- Herp:
- momo: ... Hopefully. But, do we... I mean, I can find a server that does that. Find the bot.
- Megumin: lines*
- Megumin:
- D3SU: It can't be too difficult, or so many servers wouldn't have them.
- Megumin: Um.
- Megumin: I think Salt Industries does that.
- Lex: YAGPDB.xyz.
- Lex: But they PM you.
- Ellie:
- Lex: Upon being assigned a role.
- D3SU: Welcome, Ellie.
- momo: Hey, Ellie.
- Lex: Hi, Ellie.
- momo: Amazing job on the characters. They're awesome.
- Ellie: god I love this character.
- D3SU: vvvvv@momo
- Herp: Hiya.
- Ellie: And thanks. ♥
- momo: Let me search for the bot.
- D3SU: We're going over the discord overhaul doc, Ellie.
- Ellie: Right... It's currently ongoing, right?
- D3SU: If you read into it and find anything you'd like to ask about, just say the word.
- Ellie: Sure thing.
- Megumin: Where were we again?
- Ellie: I'm... somewhat debating...
- D3SU: ...Good question.
- Lex: Role_bot.
- Ellie:
- Lex: And finding a bot to make sure the role getting is as simple as possible.
- Megumin: I could do some scouting to find a bot like that. Alternatively, we should talk to someone who understands it.
- Herp: Yes. So, let's revisit this later.
- Lex: I proposed YAGPDB.xyz
- Lex: DANA knows how to use it.
- Lex: Being that she runs a server that uses it.
- Megumin: let's revisit it later
- Herp: Excellent.
- Jontaneous:
- momo: Pause.
- momo: Before we integrate that, we can just make a post detailing the tatsumaki role add commands.
- momo: Then pin that, reference it in the channel description.
- momo: That saves us time.
- Herp: That is indeed what I said earlier.
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Sounds like a big ol' yes to me.
- Lex: Fine by me for the immediate.
- Megumin: v
- Lex: Okay, that's solved.
- Ellie: No objections here, your Honor.
- Megumin: Next, captain.
- Lex: How would Voice Chat work?
- Lex: You can't have spaces in Discord channels.
- Megumin: silent reminder that jon is still here
- Herp: Well, you talk into a microphone.
- Lex: I say that we remove the channel and replace it with Voice_Chat.
- D3SU: Voice channel names are worked slightly differently.
- Herp: Okay, next.
- momo: I agree with Lex. That's important.
- Lex: Humm...
- Lex: What else...
- Lex: Aha.
- Lex: Friends_and_Food.
- Lex: It sounds a little...
- Megumin: I already agree.
- Megumin:
- Lex:
- Herp: Fish are friends, not food.
- Lex: They can be food too.
- Jontaneous:
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous: Have you never watched finding nemo.
- Megumin: They can be both.
- Jontaneous:
- Lex: Jon.
- momo: cute_animals, but people post dead cooked animals in there as well.
- momo: Done.
- D3SU: v
- Megumin:
- Megumin: god momo
- momo:
- Megumin: i'm crying
- momo:
- Ellie: Hm...
- Lex: Isn't cute_animals usually just pets?
- D3SU: Yep.
- momo: Kinda, yeah.
- Lex: pets_and_cuisine?
- Ellie: I still think the name needs some work.
- momo: Actually, no. Pets are a casino_bot thing.
- momo: That and cuddles.
- D3SU: v@Ellie
- Lex: Oh, momo, I meant like, real pets.
- Lex: Most of what I see in cute_animals are just people's real life pets.
- Megumin: Why did we merge the two channels again?
- D3SU: Pets_And_Pasta
- D3SU:
- momo: I'm here all night.
- Megumin:
- Ellie:
- momo: And why did we again?
- Herp: Merging channels is kinda the point of the overhaul.
- D3SU: v
- Armie: We didn't need two barely used channels.
- Armie: Might as well make it one.
- Herp: They were both semi-active channels with no substantive function, but they're cute. v
- Megumin: I guess. It's just a bit random considering their subjects.
- momo: Well, it's not like our server operates around them, so it's fine.
- Megumin: it's like merging a restaurant and a pet store
- D3SU: Their purposes are nearly identical. As long as the name is clear, it's fine, I think.
- Ellie: Well... I'm fine with the merge.. Just not the name of the merged channel.
- momo: They're both irrelevant.
- Jontaneous: There are restaurants that keep their Lobster in an aquarium so you can pick which one you can eat.
- Lex: D3SU, one is to make us salivate for food, and one is to make us d'aww on cute living things.
- Armie: I don't care about the name.
- Jontaneous: That's a pet store and a restaurant.
- D3SU: Dogs_And_Donuts
- D3SU:
- momo: cute_alive_and_dead
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Cats_And_Cannoli
- D3SU:
- momo: dogs and donuts is really cu--
- momo:
- Megumin: D3su knows what's up
- Herp: guys
- Ellie: Oh well..
- Herp: the name is already very well received
- Herp: and has led to some very cute posts
- Megumin:
- D3SU: It is?
- Herp: heck yeah
- momo: It's a pretty good name, as is, imo.
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Oh, yeah! Kaiser's been slaving away in the Discord this whole time!
- momo: dogs_and_donuts is cute too.
- Herp: He sure has. Thanks Kais.
- D3SU: vvvv
- Megumin: Pets_And_Food.
- Herp: Pet_Food
- Megumin:
- momo: ... Thank you, Kais. These are a lot of changes.
- Megumin: I mean.
- Megumin: Herp.
- Megumin: That would be decent if it didn't imply eating pets
- momo: That's the best part.
- D3SU: Is there a problem?????
- Megumin: just gets in an ao discord
- Lex: I'm hungry, I'm gonna go make some food.
- Megumin: "pet food"
- D3SU: *pets
- D3SU:
- momo: It also implies all the food in the channel is the quality of dog steak.
- Megumin: i'd run for my life
- Lex: I'll be back quick.
- D3SU: I think we should move along. We're getting very sidetracked.
- momo: Okay, Lex. <3
- Herp: Anyway, let's conclude on this before we drag on too much about literally the least important channel on the server v@desu
- D3SU: Kaiser'll get through the whole overhaul before we finish at this rate.
- Megumin: pets_and_food
- Megumin:
- D3SU:
- D3SU: Anything else anyone'd like to bring up?
- D3SU: lowkey, this meeting room bg makes me feel professional as hell
- Megumin: v
- momo: Kais. Aside from #server_info, what's left to be integrated?
- Ellie: #staff_chat
- Ellie: omit
- Ellie:
- D3SU: True.
- D3SU:
- Megumin: But yeah, um, someone said about revisiting this topic in the future...
- Herp:
- Megumin: We should probably check what's being used and what's not, let's say, a month after the update?
- momo: Fair.
- D3SU: v
- momo: And then delete/merge the unused portions.
- Ellie: Sounds good.
- Megumin: and then add an art section
- Megumin:
- D3SU: m8
- D3SU:
- momo: community_corner
- momo: shut
- D3SU: v
- Megumin: community corner
- Megumin: more like
- Megumin: "i made hd versions of this sprite"
- Megumin: "look"
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Just send your art there. People will like it.
- D3SU: :clap:
- momo: v
- Armie: regular session list, role bot, and descriptions for everything.
- Megumin: That implies my art is good.
- D3SU: It's not????
- momo: ... Okay, fair.
- Ellie:
- momo: Do you wanna, do #server_info really quick?
- Armie: Yeah.
- Ellie: Mhm.. We need that channel dusted now.
- momo: Okay.
- Herp: Probably best to archive old server_info and make the new one from scratch.
- D3SU: v
- Ellie: Seconded.
- Armie: I can do that.
- Armie: I mean, archive it.
- Ellie: Oh no
- Ellie: Fffffff
- Megumin:
- Megumin: wh
- Ellie: Armie's Normal
- Megumin: what about it
- Armie: What?
- Ellie: Her legs kind of clips through her skirt.
- Megumin: Kaiser, can you blank real quick?
- Armie: Okay.
- Herp: that isn't a blank
- Megumin: it
- Armie: You're not getting one.
- Ellie: I'll whip up a better gif of that in the next update.
- Megumin: K-Kind of clips a bit through?
- Megumin: It's pretty minor though.
- Herp: kais i'll ban you
- Armie: It's fine for now.
- Lex: Back.
- Herp: Welcome back.
- Armie: I won't even ban you.
- D3SU: Wow, lucky.
- D3SU:
- Ellie:
- Megumin: W
- Ellie: Darnit.
- Armie: I'll manually enter your IPID into the server's internal banlist.
- D3SU:
- Ellie: I even want to get ban--
- D3SU: Brutal.
- Ellie:
- Herp: That reminds me.
- Megumin: Welcome back, Lexi. We're finally demoting me.
- Lex: Why the fuck you and not me?
- Herp: Kais, we should do some testing with the internal banlist, just out of curiosity.
- Megumin: Because I asked first
- Lex: Darn.
- Lex: Can't argue with that.
- Ellie: Internal Banlist?
- Ellie: What kind of testin?
- Ellie: Testing*
- Megumin: We'll use Herp as the guinea pig.
- Ellie:
- Herp: I want to see if I can cover the exploit that allowed those guys to keep coming back after being banned.
- Herp: You know, the one's at AlexG's cases.
- Ellie: Ah yes..
- D3SU: Hey, good idea!
- Jontaneous: Their IPIDs kept changing.
- Herp: Mhm.
- Megumin: IPID's change a lot, honestly. That's important is the HDID I believe.
- Jontaneous: That probably wouldn't work. Assuming the bans weren't delayed.
- Megumin: What's*
- Armie: I can already answer your question, Herp.
- Armie: You can't.
- Herp: Can you not insert HDID's manually?
- Armie: They use a VM to change their HDID, and then use a VPN to change IPID.
- Herp:
- Herp: That's way too much effort.
- Megumin: That's some dedicated hatred.
- Lex: It's honestly not that hard to do if you already have a VPN and a VMachine set up.
- Herp: True, but as someone with both, it's a fucking hassle.
- Herp: Especially to change at the rate they did.
- Jontaneous: Well, there've been no further things like that recently.
- Jontaneous: So, its not a problem.
- Jontaneous: Not yet anyway.
- Lex: It's way too minor of an issue.
- Lex: So no need for any testing.
- Herp: Hence why it's an idle curiosity of mine.
- D3SU: Understandable.
- Ellie: We'll just be ready if ever the situation comes back again.
- Lex: What else is there to cover?
- Jontaneous: Curiosity sated. Next statement you fuck.
- Megumin:
- momo: Okay. I got the first part of #server_info_and_rules done.
- momo: Post it?
- Herp: Sure, and then Kais posts their side.
- momo: I had to like, make sure all the pings would ping.
- Ellie: Yalla! Let's see it.
- momo: Okay.
- D3SU: v
- Lex: Yalla unironically means "Let's go" in Arabic.
- Megumin:
- Lex:
- D3SU: Y'alla
- D3SU:
- Lex: Yalla.
- Megumin: I'm ready. Bring it.
- Ellie: Y'alla habibi!
- Herp: Yalla yalla, imshi.
- Lex: I don't know whether to scold you all or not.
- D3SU: ...Does this count as cultural appropriation?
- Ellie: I'm born from an arab country.. So..
- Lex:
- Ellie: The terms seems familiar to me.
- Lex: Elias McFucking Ellie.
- Ellie:
- Lex: And I didn't know this?
- momo: Be careful, Megu. Once someone reacts to that, tuturu is on our #server_info forever.
- Ellie: I-I thought you knew...
- momo: Eventually, they'll be added as a character.
- Lex: I didn't!
- D3SU: I will destroy you.l
- D3SU:
- Megumin: That's the intention.
- Lex: Where do you hail from?
- momo: Fuck.
- Ellie: E-Even Balance knows.
- Megumin: My discord will run out soon momo
- Megumin: i must preserve my tuturu
- Lex: E l l i e . I don't recall you telling me!
- Ellie: I was born in Kuwait.
- Herp: Your discord's running out? Damn. I thought it was just your Nitro.
- Lex: You're literally my neighbor.
- Megumin:
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Pffft... Herp...
- Megumin: The longer I am awake, the more words i forgot to type.
- Megumin: forget
- Ellie: Where are you from, Lex?
- Megumin: Saharan Desert
- Lex:
- Lex: That's in Africa, Megumin.
- Lex: I'm in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia.
- Megumin:
- D3SU: The idle chatter is getting pretty rampant. Are we done reviewing over the discord changes?
- Ellie: That's neat.
- Herp: I presume so.
- Lex: Sorry, I had to fanboy over another Middle Eastern around.
- Megumin: I live in South America. The only things that exist for me are massive island, U.K. and Japan.
- D3SU: Understandable. <3 @Lex
- momo: We have to address the regular session list, and role bot. As well as doing the descriptions, which I can do.
- momo: The regular session list is a cute idea, but let's save it for when we know how to do it.
- Lex: Seconded.
- Ellie: Right.
- Megumin: Agre-eed.
- momo: Meanwhile, I can put in a role_bot that's just using tatsumaki.
- momo: ... That should be it. Thanks Kais, for doing most of the integration.
- D3SU: v
- Armie: No problem.
- Lex: I have good news.
- Lex: The first video for videos_and_logs
- Lex: is up.
- Megumin: oh my god what happened to my tuturu
- Lex: By Jay.
- Jontaneous:
- Jontaneous: >Pixel
- Jontaneous: excuse me
- Lex: Oh.
- Lex: Let's delete it.
- Megumin:
- Lex: omit.
- Jontaneous: must be an old video
- Megumin: I can't believe we actually survived the discord overhaul this felt like World War III
- Herp: While we talked, Kais just kinda, did it.
- Herp: Once again, thanks Kais.
- Lex: momo.
- D3SU: Seriously, thanks. This could have taken an eternity and a half.
- Lex: Any more thoughts?
- Megumin: Good work, Kai. And I mean it.
- Lex: I'm pretty much out.
- momo: I kicked a guy.
- Megumin:
- Lex: E.
- Ellie: We appreciate it a lot, Kaiser.
- Ellie: And nice.
- momo: He was memeing in #lounge. I'm protecting.
- Lex: Yeah, thanks Kaiser. That was a lot of work.
- D3SU: Sounds good, momo.
- momo: ... Again, thank you, Kais.
- Ellie: I suppose we can talk about bans and unbans next...? Or..
- Megumin: Fine by me. I don't have anything planned.
- Megumin: Besides sleeping.
- Lex: I need to put Megumin to sleep later.
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous:
- Lex: That's my agenda for today.
- Jontaneous: okay unbans
- Jontaneous: door and kuro
- Megumin: I-I am getting on bed at the correct times.
- Jontaneous: they're being unbanned tommorow
- Lex: Ja.
- Jontaneous: kaiser already confirmed this
- Lex: Ellie will tell them.
- D3SU: Correct.
- Megumin: That was quick.
- Jontaneous: nice
- Ellie: Well... What do you guys think?
- Lex: Go for it, Ellie.
- Herp: What we think is immaterial at this point.
- Lex: That is, tomorrow.
- momo: Okay. What are the tatsu commands for adding roles onto yourself?
- Armie: I'd like to tell them, actually.
- D3SU: v@herp
- Lex:
- momo:
- D3SU:
- momo: AnsweR mE
- Jontaneous:
- D3SU: I'm slow, okay?
- Megumin: I don't remember, momo, but was it something about !Iam?
- momo: ... Really?
- Jontaneous: tselfrole?
- momo: Is it that simple?
- D3SU: I think it's like... t!selfrole something something
- momo: t!selfrole...
- momo: Okay, looking it up. That's a good start.
- D3SU: You can check in bot commands.
- Megumin: We should change that command, really. Salt Industries has a bot that just needs !Iam (role)
- Lex: Nadeko does the same thing.
- Megumin: Also, Kai is going to tell Door and Kuro about the unbans?
- Ellie: Ah... You mean the Miki Bot?
- Lex: Don't we already have Nadeko?
- Lex: You can literally do .iam
- D3SU: I can mess around with that, then.
- Megumin: petition to make nadeko surpass tatsumaki--
- Megumin: Oh yes. I forgot.
- Lex: Nadeko is a cutie.
- D3SU: The roles were all handled by tatsu before, so I hadn't input any of that.
- Megumin: Whoever produced a huge amount of blossoms for themselves need some serious scolding.
- Ellie: Nadeko-chan is my ideal waifu
- Ellie: omit
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Actually, Kaiser and momo might need to handle it. I don't have admin perms.
- D3SU: Lemme check real quick if that matters.
- Megumin:
- Ellie: Right so.. Kaiser will tell Door and Kuro instead.. Totally fine by me.
- Armie: Sorry, but it's kind of personal.
- Ellie: I understand.
- Megumin: It's A-Oke.
- Ellie: I basically myself just want to tell them "You're unbanned." and all that.
- Herp: Kaiser doing it seems optimal.
- Ellie: Understandable.
- D3SU: Good news! I can totally do the roles thing.
- Herp: That's an excellent bit of news.
- Ellie: Neat.
- Jontaneous: ...When they get back, assuming they don't go around sowing chaos, we shouldn't have a need to ban them again.
- Jontaneous: So, let's hope they've learnt.
- D3SU: ...Ah. Bad news.
- Lex: Hm?
- Megumin: What's up?
- D3SU: Only 5 of such "role things" can be up at a time.
- Ellie: Def, Pro, Judge, CM, Wit.
- Ellie: omit
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Def, Pro, Judge, Wit, Steno, CM, Eventgoer...
- D3SU: Oof.
- Ellie: Yeah...
- D3SU: Aha. I found another command. I'll see if this one pans out.
- momo: Oh. Only five?
- D3SU: I'm not too familiar with all of Nadeko's commands, but there's a lot of role stuff. I should be able to work something out.
- Ellie: Ini-senpai.
- momo: Okay. Just tell me when, and I can edit my message. Or, we could even make a new role_bot.
- Armie: Why was bot commands even named casino?
- D3SU: The changes I'm making should be serverwide, so the channel biz is up to you.
- Ellie: Because of gambling, I believe.
- D3SU: People gambled a ton with Nadeko.
- momo: I guess they never miss, huh.
- momo has played a song: Hit or Miss ~ Suspense ~ PLvsPW.
- Ellie:
- Megumin: Until Kaiser went there
- Megumin: and ruined the leaderboard
- Megumin: with infinite blossoms
- D3SU: Lame.
- D3SU:
- Armie: Blame Wiso.
- Lex: I guess they never miss.
- D3SU: Also, momo what the hec--
- Ellie: Oh yeah.... There is this neat frature in Nadeko where users can react to get blossoms.
- Ellie: feature*
- Megumin: I think Des did that in form of events.
- Ellie: Basically like a giveaway of sorts.
- momo has played a song: The Audience Room ~ PLvsPW.
- momo has played a song: About Town ~ PLvsPW.
- Megumin: I never got to choose the right card.
- momo has played a song: A Pleasant Afternoon ~ PLvsPW.
- Megumin: I blame you, Des.
- D3SU: Fair and understandable.
- D3SU: </3
- D3SU: Also, more bad news.
- Megumin:
- Lex: Yes?
- D3SU: The roles Nadeko seems to be on about are entirely of their own kind. They aren't like the usual discord roles.
- D3SU: They're exclusive to Nadeko.
- Lex: B o y .
- D3SU: I'll see if I can find something else here.
- Lex: Nadeko you dumb.
- D3SU: Nadeko is a special.
- D3SU: Sh.
- Ellie: Stop insulting Nadeko-chan!
- Lex: E.
- Lex: There.
- Ellie:
- Megumin: NadEko.
- Herp:
- Armie has played a song: Asougi Kazuma ~ Samurai with a Mission (Beta Version) ~ DGS.
- momo: Spider's thinking about doing their class again. Where do they ping for it?
- Armie: Casing searching.
- momo: Nice, gotcha.
- momo: Well, we made it. Anything else to address?
- Herp: Aviator and Widdow.
- Megumin: Oh, right.
- Armie:
- momo:
- Armie: Hey, Elias.
- Herp:
- Megumin:
- Herp: nobody has anything to say on the topic
- D3SU: I can't think of anything else to bring up.
- Megumin: v
- Herp: Then let's skip straight to the point. What do they get?
- Armie: I can see Armie's hair through her skirt, does that happen with the SoJ model as well?
- Ellie: Yes, Kaisi--
- Herp: Temp ban, or perma?
- Jontaneous: i feel like aviator should have been dealt with at the time because now its just like, a delayed reaction
- momo: Temp, or perma...
- Ellie: Well... Apparently. It's the same thing with Vidya's rips.
- Ellie: I have no idea why it does that.
- Herp: It's a delayed reaction because we're a delayed staff. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have a reaction.
- D3SU: v
- Armie: Aviator needs a talking to, if that doesn't work, we'll escalate.
- D3SU: Seems fair enough to me.
- Ellie: I'll think of a fix of it for the time-being.
- Herp: No further punitive action then?
- Megumin: Can we have the habit of not giving perma bans as their first punishment?
- D3SU: v
- Herp: Sure, give me someone who doesn't deserve one.
- Megumin: me
- D3SU: A spammer from vidya that comes into lobby and posts porn.
- D3SU: omit
- Jontaneous: Herp, I get you think there's no redeeming these people, but I like to give them a chance.
- momo: Thanks, you guys, for discussing and implementing this so efficiently.
- Ellie: Well... There is a thing called warnings so....
- Armie: Widdow doesn't have a discord, and I haven't seen them recently so, communication with them needs to be on the AO server.
- momo: True.
- D3SU: Hm. That could make things a bit more tense.
- Megumin: v
- Jontaneous: Have either Widdow or Aviator been warned yet?
- Ellie: And thank you, momo and Kaiser for pulling all of this effort for Case Cafe. It's a really big change.
- Lex: I've once warned Widdow to calm down.
- momo: Eh. I can't take credit, genuinely.
- Armie: I think Widdow doesn't even go here anymore.
- D3SU: I know for a fact that Avi has heard plenty of complaints from users, but I don't know about staff.
- momo: But, thanks Ellie.
- Armie: Actually, scratch that.
- Armie: Have you guys seen Widdow recently?
- Lex: No.
- D3SU: I have, yesterday, I think.
- Armie: How were they?
- Lex: Last time I saw them was a week ago.
- Lex: First time I warned them, they were rather ignorant of the fact there were rules.
- Lex: All the times after, they behaved.
- Lex: Saw no outstanding issues with them.
- Armie: Okay, here's the deal.
- momo has played a song: Promotional Video Soundtrack ~ T&T.
- Lex: Mm?
- Megumin:
- Megumin: This track is great.
- D3SU: v
- momo: Yeah.
- momo: steel samurai go
- D3SU: Heh.
- momo:
- momo: bye steel samurai
- D3SU: You were saying, Kais?
- momo: This is Kais' hype music.
- Lex: I'm so pissed. Ugh.
- Armie: There was just an argument for delayed reaction, but if you see Widdow, and if they act up, take them for a talk and say they need improve their behaviour etc..
- Armie: Hand them like a week ban.
- D3SU: Sounds like a good enough game plan to me.
- Jontaneous: that should just
- momo: ... I think they should be, after next talk. Week ban sounds good.
- momo has played a song: PRELUDE.
- Jontaneous: be standard procedure anyway
- momo: ... Week bans do sound pretty good.
- Megumin: we should write this down somewhere
- Jontaneous:
- momo:
- Jontaneous: imagine if we had a database
- Armie has played a song: Iris Watson ~ A Little Biographer (Beta Version) ~ DGS.
- D3SU: Got it!
- Lex: It depends on the scale of her punishment.
- Lex: Not punishment, fuck.
- Lex: I mean rulebreaking.
- momo: Nice, D3S. Nice job.
- D3SU: I try.
- D3SU:
- Jontaneous: Anyway. Aviator's on our radar. We can talk to them, tell them what they did was wrong.
- Jontaneous: And if they do it again, they get temped.
- Jontaneous: Do it again after that, poof.
- Jontaneous:
- momo: And then give 'em the week bean.
- Ellie:
- Armie: Nothing Widdow does is a gigantic breach of rules, they're just consistently annoying and spammy.
- D3SU: The beans.
- Lex: If it's something trivial like changing the music too many times or when it's not right to do so, I'd just take them in and give them the proper good Lex treatment.
- Lex: And you know I'm good with those.
- Jontaneous:
- momo: E
- Megumin: Target Lo-cked!
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous: what is the proper good lex treatement, exactly
- Jontaneous: can you do it to me
- D3SU: This version of Irir's theme is adorable.
- D3SU: *Iris
- D3SU:
- Lex: Fuck you, Jon, your voice is irrelevant.
- Lex: Banned.
- Ellie: Can you do it to me, Lex?
- momo has played a song: Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect ~ AA.
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous: Guess I'll resign.
- Lex: No.
- Megumin:
- Lex: I kid.
- D3SU: Fair.
- Lex: I kid. I kid.
- Ellie:
- D3SU: Bye jon </3
- Megumin: I'm resigning right now.
- Lex: Don't do that, Jon, I love you.
- momo:
- D3SU: Bye jon </3
- D3SU:
- Megumin: Let's go, Jon.
- momo:
- Jontaneous: okay so
- Lex: Megumin. Not you too.
- Lex: E.
- D3SU: E.
- Ellie:
- momo:
- momo has played a song: Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect (Kanadeon Version) ~ AA.
- Lex: Canadian version.
- Armie: What's case_advice again?
- Megumin: Canada.
- Herp: Advice. For casing.
- D3SU: It's the advice channel we discussed earlier in the week.
- Armie: I wasn't listening mostly, due to doing a lot of it.
- momo: ... Do you think classes should be pinged for there?
- Lex: Ja.
- Lex: I do.
- Megumin: Apparently a channel for general discussions of advice and things of casing.
- Lex: Casing classes.
- Herp: They can be pinged wherever they wish to ping.
- Armie: Uh, I was listening last week, but I noticed you went over it.
- Armie: today
- D3SU: Did we?
- Ellie:
- Armie: I think so.
- Megumin: I don't remember.
- momo: ... What kind of advice can people give?
- D3SU: FRick.
- Herp: We just kinda said we went over it last week. And we went over this last meeting.
- momo:
- momo has played a song: Miles Edgeworth ~ Great Revival (Kanadeon Version) ~ JFA.
- D3SU: The kind of advice?
- Megumin: Momo, if I said I wanted to be a better prosecutor, what would you tell me?
- Jontaneous: Stay silent.
- Ellie: How to counter the defense, copy-pasting tricks with steno, telling the truth as CMs/Witness, proper judging as judge...
- Jontaneous: Let the defense kill themselves.
- momo: ... Oh, right. We have to promote mentors, and have them talk in the channel. That's what it was.
- Ellie: A lot of possibilities.
- D3SU: Right.
- Armie: I'll post my rant about casing in case_advice
- Jontaneous: also uh
- Megumin:
- D3SU: Fair.
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous: i finished my defense guide
- Jontaneous: like
- Herp: Frankly, I think the mentors will promote themselves.
- momo: Also, I'd tell you to choose between helping or hurting the Defense. And give pointers from there.
- momo: Also, I agree.
- Jontaneous:
- Lex: jon
- momo: People who wanna give advice will.
- Ellie:
- Lex: If I read your guide would I become a good DA.
- Jontaneous: no
- Lex: Okay.
- D3SU: Heck.
- Lex: Post it.
- Jontaneous: uh
- Lex: It passed the questionnaire.
- Jontaneous: can i post it here first
- D3SU: No.
- D3SU:
- Lex: That's what I said.
- momo: Jon. Gimme the link. I'll post it in #casing_resources.
- Jontaneous: NO
- Megumin: Making the Mentor role a thing you get from staff will make it much more intimidating, so I suggest it's like, a selfrole thing.
- Megumin: also jon give em the guide now
- momo: jon.
- momo: give me.
- Jontaneous:
- momo: the Guide.
- D3SU: Jon let me be a good DA.
- Jontaneous: genuine fear
- D3SU: plz
- D3SU:
- momo:
- Megumin: i can convince jon
- Megumin: oh
- Lex: Jon please.
- Lex: Let me judge every word you write.
- momo: nice
- momo has played a song: Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect (Piano) ~ AA.
- Jontaneous: i was gonna write a judge guide
- D3SU: Thanks, Jon.
- momo:
- D3SU: Oh?
- momo:
- Jontaneous: please don't post it unless everyone here says its like
- Jontaneous: good enough to put in #casing_resources
- momo: Okay. I promise.
- Megumin: Give the i give up image a border
- Ellie: God.
- Lex: Good hook, Jon.
- Lex: I'm interested.
- Jontaneous: i'm not really uh, that good a DA to uh
- Jontaneous: give more than a basic guide
- Jontaneous: so this it
- Lex: Also yeah.
- D3SU: Was there anything anyone wanted to bring up besides the discord, and our two disorderlies, those being Avi and Widdow?
- Ellie: Hmm...
- Lex: Yes. Can we discuss the demotion of Lex?
- momo: oh my god jon this looks so professional
- D3SU: v
- Ellie: I do.
- D3SU: Oh?
- Megumin: Jon you said you were a bad writer
- momo: what are you, a college educated writer?
- momo: like fuck
- Megumin: Lying is bad.
- Ellie: Pixel.
- Herp: What about them?
- Ellie: Her ban is temporary. Right?
- Megumin:
- Herp: No.
- Ellie:
- Lex: This is really good, Jon.
- Ellie: What
- D3SU: I'll just give me two cents on it, since I do have something regarding this I'd like to say.
- momo has played a song: PRELUDE.
- momo:
- Ellie: Her ban wasn't temporary all this time?
- D3SU: She was out of line in throwing her tantrums in the gamemodes and whatnot.
- Herp: No, it was voluntary.
- D3SU: That, I certainly agree with.
- D3SU: ...?
- D3SU: Voluntary?
- Herp: Mhm.
- Ellie: Elaborate, please.
- Herp: I had a chat with them on the day. We agreed the best way to settle things would be for them to walk away.
- Ellie: ...
- Ellie: What
- Herp: I do believe I mentioned this in #staff_discussions.
- D3SU: Ellie doesn't seem to know the whole story here.
- D3SU: I wish Datz would stop smiling all the time, also.
- Ellie:
- Megumin: I'm on the same boat there, Des.
- momo:
- Herp: Any further questions, Elias?
- Jontaneous: Well, we've done the whole story before.
- Jontaneous: Its... well.
- Ellie: ...
- Ellie: I uh...
- Ellie: Don't recall anything about agreeing on her walking away in #staff_discussion
- Herp: You can review it.
- Ellie:
- Jontaneous: ...We had a thing ages ago, I'm pretty sure Ini did, anyway.
- Jontaneous: Where she said if anyone had a problem with Pixel being banned, speak now. I assume you didn't speak because you had assumed it was temporary, Elias.
- Megumin: I... I remember it being an important matter, so I brought it up, but there was little discussion even after pinging, which made me think it was fully settled.
- Jontaneous: Right.
- D3SU: The same went for me, actually. It was said to be temp, but that wasn't the truth in the end.
- Jontaneous: ...I had assumed it was perma, considering what Pixel had actually done.
- Ellie: It... just doesn't add up... I just can't accept Pixel agreeing on walking away from CC just like that.
- Herp: Ellie.
- Herp: Search staff discussions.
- Herp: Pixel in:#staff_discussions .
- Herp:
- Herp: Is that all?
- D3SU: I've got nothing else, myself.
- Ellie: I'll... be right back. Excuse me.
- Megumin:
- D3SU: I'll be back in a minute or two. Quick bathroom break.
- momo: I, don't know what to say.
- momo: I'm not even upset. I don't know what emote to use.
- Ellie: Alright... I returned.
- Ellie: I'll uh...
- Ellie: Disregard the topic.
- Jontaneous: ...Wait a second.
- momo: ... You, will?
- Jontaneous: I've been re-reading through this.
- Ellie: Mhmm..
- Jontaneous: Let me just...
- Jontaneous: Herp, this was presented as a temporary ban.
- Herp: Huh, you're right. So I guess we have to decide on a length of time. My bad.
- momo:
- Jontaneous: Not the point.
- Jontaneous: The point is, we had talked about this, in length, on the day it happened in an area.
- Jontaneous: And I thought we had agreed it was always going to be a perma.
- Herp: Did anyone communicate that to Pixel?
- Lex: You were the one that talked to them.
- Jontaneous: Exactly.
- Lex: If anyone was going to communicate to them, it was you.
- Lex: You only. No one else.
- Herp: Let me double check my logs with them.
- Herp: Ah.
- Herp: Ah, okay. Yeah, there's something I forgot to tell you guys, Ellie and D3SU. I forgot to put this in #staff_discussions.
- Ellie:
- Herp: When I was talking to them, I asked them about Letya's age, since uh, that was a pretty big deal.
- D3SU: Understandably so.
- Herp: And uh, the answers about Letya's age to Pixel and to Lateik were different.
- Jontaneous: That's not the question here.
- Megumin: v
- Megumin: I think you're missing the big deal here.
- Jontaneous: Lex has brought forward this issue in a PL, D3SU and Ellie, y'see.
- Jontaneous: It all happened real fast. REAL fast.
- Herp: I'm getting there, I'm getting there.
- Lex: Cut to it.
- D3SU: I'd like the details.
- Ellie: I'd like to know, please...
- Herp: If D3SU and Ellie want the details, I'll give them the details. In full.
- Herp: So, Pixel admitted to getting Letya to lie about their age, and I told them that means I couldn't really help them much anymore since that's a big deal.
- Ellie: ...
- D3SU: ...
- Ellie: She did...?
- Ellie: What
- D3SU: That's stupid...
- Megumin: For reference, it would be good if you posted logs of this, Herp.
- D3SU: v
- Herp: I told them that it'd take a long ass time to get anything reversed. Then we had that meeting where we decided on their fate. And yeah, I'll do that.
- Herp: Well, I say meeting, it was Meg's ping.
- Megumin:
- Ellie: ...
- Jontaneous: You... you guys really weren't aware of this? I thought that we'd brought up what Pixel did in #staff_discussions...
- Herp: And then I told them nobody spoke in their defence, and their case was closed.
- Ellie: Never.. I wasn't aware of it all..
- D3SU: I didn't know about the "knowing/lying about the age" bit.
- D3SU: Along that same line, I was still under the impression that Letya was the false at at the time.
- D3SU: *age
- D3SU:
- D3SU: Welp.
- momo:
- Herp: Here we go.
- Ellie: I can't
- Ellie: I'm sorry
- Lex: Herp.
- Lex: Have you ever stated in staff_discussions that their ban was permanent?
- Herp: That's not my call.
- Lex: Have you ever followed up on what you said regarding that?
- Herp: My on the spot decision was temporary only during the discussions. After discussion, I told them their case was closed.
- Lex: Told who?
- Herp: Pixel.
- Lex: Okay.
- Herp: I also told them that I'd work to overturn said decision.
- Herp: Which I will.
- Lex: What decision?
- Herp:
- Herp: the uh
- D3SU:
- Herp: the one to ban them
- D3SU: boi
- Ellie: WHat
- Lex: Only when someone brings it up?
- Megumin:
- Herp: Only when it became, y'know.
- Herp: Achievable.
- momo:
- Herp: Which at this point in time, it isn't.
- Lex: With all due respect, Herp, it's not adding up. Either it's permanent or it's not.
- Ellie: Oh my god... I don't even know anymore
- D3SU: Permanent bans can be overturned, LEx.
- D3SU: *Lex
- D3SU:
- Herp: Perma bans have been repealed in the past.
- Herp: What was the most recent one?
- Jontaneous: It should have been made clear at the start! That way we could have given D3SU and Ellie the full story way earlier! I had no idea they didn't know about this!
- momo:
- Megumin: Do you know why I pinged asking for discussion? Because I thought EVERYTHING WAS ALREADY ON THE TABLE.
- momo: ... It's not like individualized and uncentralized non-communication is anything new.
- Herp: Has this changed anybody's minds?
- Jontaneous: Fuck no! It was never about changing our minds! It was about all of us being on the same page!
- D3SU: v
- Lex: v.
- Herp: And that's what meetings are for. We're on the same page now.
- Megumin:
- Jontaneous: THREE FUCKING MONTHS LATER!
- momo:
- Megumin: The more you try to make this look like it's working, the more I hate it, Herp.
- Lex: And I hope you realize with extreme moral implications.
- D3SU: So what about that temp ban time limit?
- Armie: Stop ganging up on him, the responsibility lies with me here.
- D3SU: omit
- momo: Oh, it does? Really?
- Armie: Yes, it does.
- Herp: I'll be honest, this surprised me too.
- D3SU: You were present at the discussion for this, Kais?
- momo: No, it doesn't. Not solely, at least.
- Megumin: Do tell, Kaiser.
- Armie: I was the one who searched all the evidence for it.
- momo: So?
- Armie: What do you mean, so?
- Megumin: You searched the evidence, and suddenly everything is on your shoulders?
- Megumin: I don't remember it working like that.
- momo: Neither do I.
- Herp: And responsible for what, exactly?
- Megumin: Refer to the entire conversation.
- D3SU: I think we should just go with what Herp had said earlier. He forgot to post the rest of the info into the discussion channel.
- Armie: I also knew all about it, I think that would've been clear.
- momo: Oh, right, D3S. We should just let this pass by.
- Armie: I nearly had all of the info Herp had.
- D3SU: I didn't say that, momo.
- momo: Yeah, but that's exactly what it'd be doing.
- D3SU: I'm just saying that Herp said he forgot.
- momo:
- Lex: Still a mistake that cost us 3 months of misunderstanding.
- D3SU: That's not good.
- Jontaneous: And besides.
- Armie: And that's on me.
- Megumin: Three months of them not even knowing the full story behind their friend's ban.
- Jontaneous: I was the one who actually gave the reasons for why Pixel was banned. And it was two sentences.
- Jontaneous: You can search it up.
- Herp: Mhm, comes up in the same search.
- D3SU: That's all I ever heard about it. Not that it was permanent.
- Jontaneous: Right.
- Armie: I never felt the need to bring it up, and was statisfied with "they didn't ask about it" thus it's on me.
- Herp: At the time too, we didn't apply temporary bans.
- D3SU: If that's the case, Kaiser, everyone present in that meeting is equally to blame.
- Herp: Door and Kuro are the first real examples of this.
- momo: Stop acting like this is just a benign, casual fluke with no ulterior motives.
- momo: If you all walk out of here accepting that as the result, I swear.
- Armie: The ulterior motive is to make sure Pixel never got unbanned.
- Herp: Are you implying that I'd planned this, three months ago?
- momo:
- Jontaneous:
- D3SU: Kaiser, I do have one question, if you'll humor me.
- Lex: Kaiser.
- Lex: You weren't the one talking to Pixel.
- Lex: You weren't the one that was in direct touch with the convicted.
- Lex: Therefore, stop taking the blame.
- Herp: Weren't you also in touch with them, Lex?
- Lex: Was I?
- Megumin: Passing the blame to Lexi now won't work.
- Lex: Not for the same reasons as you.
- Armie: Stop.
- Herp: I'm not.
- Herp: I'm not passing any blame.
- Armie: Logic like that puts the soldiers to blame instead of Hitler.
- Herp:
- D3SU:
- Jontaneous:
- Jontaneous: what
- Herp: I don't quite think Nuremberg precedent applies here, Kais.
- momo: I have to go to do a chore. If this is resolved in a pseudo-fashion with no changes to how we do things whatsoever, I'll be ashamed.
- Armie: Then you'll be ashamed.
- D3SU: ...
- D3SU: Kaiser.
- Megumin: Kaiser.
- Herp: We should hold meetings for every ban.
- Herp: Temporary until agreed upon otherwise.
- Megumin:
- D3SU: Some months ago, Kaiser, you joined my server, and then swiftly left. Why?
- Armie: To gather evidence.
- Herp: I knew you'd notice that.
- momo: Back. This is like, Gant and evidence law.
- D3SU: I had nothing to connect it to at the time, because I was clueless.
- Lat: Sorry, I was sleeping.
- Herp: Heya Lat.
- Armie: Don't worry about it.
- D3SU: Welcome, Lat.
- momo:
- momo: Welcome, Lat.
- D3SU: Kaiser, what's this so-called evidence you speak of?
- Lat: What's with the serious faces?
- Armie: It involves Lat, ironically enough.
- momo: Yeah.
- Lex: Unfortunately.
- D3SU: I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Pixel never did anything with Letya in that server. What's the evidence in her case?
- Jontaneous: ...Its... been a strange evening, Lat.
- Jontaneous: Unfortunately, its come to Pixel.
- Armie: Let me get it.
- D3SU: Alright.
- Lex: I have it.
- D3SU: ...Are you serious?
- Armie: Yes.
- Lat: That's odd maybe this bg made my chat logs messed up.. Dc'd.
- momo:
- D3SU: This isn't proof of any kind. It barely qualifies as evidence.
- Armie: You disgust me.
- D3SU: I monitored that server for months, and they never did anything.
- momo: ... Calm down a little, please. Where'd that come from?
- Megumin: We don't have to insult each other.
- momo: ... But I get why you said it.
- Armie: Then you must've seen Door and Kuro, minors ERPing too, huh?
- D3SU: Like this place was any better.
- D3SU: You had minors posting and viewing porn for months on end with little to no questions asked.
- Armie:
- D3SU: The nsfw channels were not curated to any decent standard.
- Herp: A left over of Skarner's, now addressed.
- Megumin: ...Addressed now.
- Armie: I've banned D3S.
- Megumin:
- Megumin: ...Kaiser. Calm down. We shouldn't ban each other over an argument.
- Armie: I've banned him because he's a deplorable disgusting person.
- momo:
- Megumin:
- Datz: Kaiser, seriously?
- Herp: I'dve double checked whether or not he saw the last one first.
- Herp: Speaking of.
- momo: Stop.
- Armie: I guess it's about time you pulled that discord owner card, momo.
- Herp:
- Megumin:
- momo: That's... not what I was...
- D3SU: This has gone into something very unpleasant.
- momo: I was going to say stop demonizing people.
- D3SU: Kaiser, you need to relax.
- D3SU: Please.
- momo: ... And Kais.
- momo: You wanna talk about "pulling owner cards"?
- Armie: Do it, go ahead.
- momo: Do you know how much shit you've done that none of the staff could even question, because you host?
- Armie: Yes.
- momo: ... And, why do you do this?
- Armie: Be more clear, what is 'this'.
- momo: ... I guess, do stuff without the full consent of the body.
- Armie: Because I value certain people over others.
- Lex: Kaiser.
- Lex: You do understand the implications behind having that mindset, right?
- Lat: Herp, would you mind giving me to logs? I think I need contexts to whatever leads to this conversation.
- Herp: Sure thing, pal.
- D3SU: This is exactly the same thing that everyone ended up grilling momo for in staff discussions some time ago.
- Herp: And I'd disagree.
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