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  7. Channel ID: (('corpid', 1000167),)
  8. Channel Name: Corp
  9. Listener: Lorelei Ierendi
  10. Session started: 2014.11.20 23:09:38
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  14. [ 2014.11.20 23:10:17 ] Ability USA > Jacob, you missed a great convo.
  15. [ 2014.11.20 23:10:44 ] Ability USA > Only one caution, get recruited out, might get ya blown up.
  16. [ 2014.11.20 23:11:01 ] Jacob Dinsmore > yea ik lol
  17. [ 2014.11.20 23:11:17 ] Jacob Dinsmore > for every person trying to help me, prolly 5 trying to screw me over lol
  18. [ 2014.11.20 23:11:24 ] Ability USA > We'll do it together some time. My missles, your drones.
  19. [ 2014.11.20 23:11:31 ] Jacob Dinsmore > is the beauty of eve..
  20. [ 2014.11.20 23:12:19 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Miner-Friendly CSM Candidate! Don't let HighSec apathy support the gankers! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386664&find=unread
  21. [ 2014.11.20 23:12:51 ] MBizon Osis > what are your views ?
  22. [ 2014.11.20 23:13:00 ] Onitawa Achuramo > mining? eww..
  23. [ 2014.11.20 23:13:19 ] Lorelei Ierendi > MBizon Osis read the thread.
  24. [ 2014.11.20 23:13:39 ] MBizon Osis > cant take the time here for me us no vote
  25. [ 2014.11.20 23:13:45 ] MBizon Osis > you just a spamer
  26. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:07 ] Paradigm Effigy > YEAH LEGWORK
  27. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:14 ] Paradigm Effigy > talk to the peasants
  28. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:22 ] Ability USA > lets throw eggs
  29. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:27 ] Paradigm Effigy > be a real president of the internets
  30. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:28 ] Lorelei Ierendi > MBizon Osis if you cant take the time to read the CSM campaign forum... you are just someone contributing to the apathy of high sec... and the reason why nothing ever gets better here.
  31. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:33 ] Lax Aivo > Evening all
  32. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:33 ] MBizon Osis > TP his car
  33. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:41 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Standard politition... "Vote for me but don't expect me to actually TALK to you"
  34. [ 2014.11.20 23:14:57 ] MBizon Osis > sure attack me
  35. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:02 ] Ability USA > Who defined hisec as apathetic?
  36. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:06 ] Athena Pirkibo > whats this voting stuff=
  37. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:09 ] MBizon Osis > thats the way to win the vote
  38. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:10 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Onitawa Achuramo vote for someone... doenst have to be me.
  39. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:18 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Vote for the goons if you want!
  40. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:23 ] Paradigm Effigy > god damn, ima vote for myself
  41. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:23 ] Lorelei Ierendi > but vote.
  42. [ 2014.11.20 23:15:42 ] Ability USA > Not voting is a vote of no confience. I'm saying a lot.
  43. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:00 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Think I'll pass... maybe this time next year there won't be a High Sec to be "apathetic" about
  44. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:12 ] MBizon Osis > i have voted the last t2 CSMs and not impresed
  45. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:20 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA unfortunately for the CSM of eve... not voting is just giving those that vote more power.
  46. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:42 ] Lorelei Ierendi > the people that do not vote are ignored.
  47. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:43 ] Ability USA > Not true. Conforming is giving you my power.
  48. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:50 ] Lorelei Ierendi > there is no "none of the above"
  49. [ 2014.11.20 23:16:53 ] MBizon Osis > CSM is cccp's muppets
  50. [ 2014.11.20 23:17:07 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA not true. only the cast votes are counted.
  51. [ 2014.11.20 23:17:26 ] Ability USA > Do you always target by name?
  52. [ 2014.11.20 23:17:48 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA only when I am answering a specific point made by a specific person.
  53. [ 2014.11.20 23:17:51 ] Katie Heth > Lorelei Ierendi if you want csm you need to be a null power or represent an underrepresented block of players
  54. [ 2014.11.20 23:17:57 ] Flak Blevins > its because of your Michael Jackson glasses
  55. [ 2014.11.20 23:18:09 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Katie Heth that should change.
  56. [ 2014.11.20 23:18:41 ] Lorelei Ierendi > there are enough players in High Sec, all they need to do is stop their apathy for 10 minutes when the voting comes.
  57. [ 2014.11.20 23:18:52 ] Ability USA > I like seeing my name over and over. Makes me want to abstain from conformist voting.
  58. [ 2014.11.20 23:18:58 ] MBizon Osis > and what happends?
  59. [ 2014.11.20 23:19:03 ] Katie Heth > it should, but it probably won't because nullbears are very active and committed to the group more often then high sec players, it just is
  60. [ 2014.11.20 23:19:46 ] Katie Heth > there's not really any high sec groups with the identity and numbers to sway the hearts and minds of a large enough portion of eve
  61. [ 2014.11.20 23:19:50 ] MBizon Osis > hlaf the CSMs promis the monn and that stars yet nothing happends cept what cccp wants to happen
  62. [ 2014.11.20 23:19:50 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Katie Heth I know... and that is what I find a shame. And then later the high sec bears complain about stuff
  63. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:08 ] Katie Heth > eve is real
  64. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:14 ] crazyfool76 > lol
  65. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:18 ] Katie Heth > block voting is a thing lol
  66. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:18 ] Ability USA > Is complaining bad?
  67. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:29 ] Erec Okanata > Complaining without constructive action is bad.
  68. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:30 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA yes
  69. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:45 ] Ability USA > Complaining= opinion= good.
  70. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:51 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA especially when you had the chance to do something
  71. [ 2014.11.20 23:20:57 ] Katie Heth > lorelei, form a corp for yourself, build your reputation
  72. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:00 ] MBizon Osis > do what?
  73. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:01 ] Ability USA > Poking me to conform= bad.
  74. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:19 ] Katie Heth > make your name known in a positive light
  75. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:22 ] MBizon Osis > you still have not told us anything bout your views of anything
  76. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:29 ] Lorelei Ierendi > if there is no representative on the csm for high sec... then noone cares about High Sec.
  77. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:36 ] MBizon Osis > just attacked us over and over
  78. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:51 ] Lorelei Ierendi > MBizon Osis if you say so...
  79. [ 2014.11.20 23:21:52 ] Flak Blevins > you have to read her campaign platform (which I am doing right now)
  80. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:02 ] Ability USA > Agreed, we need to know a general platform before we dismiss you.
  81. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:11 ] Flak Blevins > then read her link ...
  82. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:23 ] Lorelei Ierendi > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386664&find=unread
  83. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:26 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Sorry, too apathetic to read a forum post
  84. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:26 ] Ability USA > Sorry, sarcasm does not translate well.
  85. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:27 ] Lorelei Ierendi > its all there
  86. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:28 ] MBizon Osis > i only have time for this chat
  87. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:34 ] MBizon Osis > playing eve
  88. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:35 ] Flak Blevins > rofl
  89. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:55 ] CaCi-A 001Me > tldr :) ...just kidding, i already read it
  90. [ 2014.11.20 23:22:56 ] Erec Okanata > Lorelei Ierendi I am curious about something regarding what you wrote in that thread of yours. Just as food for thought, really.
  91. [ 2014.11.20 23:23:14 ] Lorelei Ierendi > MBizon Osis then I hope that EVE stays a game you want to play
  92. [ 2014.11.20 23:23:19 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Erec Okanata yes?
  93. [ 2014.11.20 23:23:52 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > One of our beloved allies: Trollface Dingus
  94. [ 2014.11.20 23:24:08 ] MBizon Osis > Lorelei Ierendi it has it's ups and downs but no CSM has made it one way or the other in the lase 2 Cycles of voting
  95. [ 2014.11.20 23:24:11 ] Erec Okanata > Okay, griefers, gankers, whoever. They're only one half of the issue. The "highsec carebears" are the other half -- their attitude warrants the action undertaken by the other half. At least, that's how I see it. Would that be addressed too?
  96. [ 2014.11.20 23:24:49 ] CaCi-A 001Me > how is that?
  97. [ 2014.11.20 23:24:53 ] MBizon Osis > CSM is molstly bout free trips to ICELAND
  98. [ 2014.11.20 23:25:19 ] Morcon Orti > I hope that isn't concidered a perk
  99. [ 2014.11.20 23:25:21 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Erec Okanata the first part of addressing that issue, is to get the High Sec Carebears to Unite and elect a CSM voice. If not me... then someone else. IF the high sec carebears cannot be motivated... then WE cannot be saved.
  100. [ 2014.11.20 23:25:38 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Hell with that... I freeze my buns off at 60 degrees, not going anywhere near a country with ICE in it's name
  101. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:11 ] Flak Blevins > LOL
  102. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:18 ] Flak Blevins > don't come to Wyoming ..
  103. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:29 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > I have no idea how much 60 degrees are.
  104. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:31 ] Flak Blevins > where the men are men, and so are the women
  105. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:32 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Maybe in the summer? ;p
  106. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:35 ] Ability USA > Are we the "high sec carebears" you speak of?
  107. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:43 ] MBizon Osis > Wyoming where men are men and sheep are scard
  108. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:43 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > How much is it in proper units of measurement?
  109. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:44 ] Flak Blevins > ok, yes, thats good
  110. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:45 ] Morcon Orti > I am!
  111. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:52 ] crazyfool76 > who needs saving?
  112. [ 2014.11.20 23:26:57 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA I dont know. are you?
  113. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:02 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > The Damsel in distress
  114. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:07 ] crazyfool76 > lol
  115. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:26 ] Ability USA > I've been pvping for 7 years, just not on this game. I wouldn't call me a carebear.
  116. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:26 ] CaCi-A 001Me > Kimotoro Homeboy thats about 15,3°C
  117. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:36 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > ah... ok. Thanks. :)
  118. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:48 ] CaCi-A 001Me > which i personly don't think is very cold
  119. [ 2014.11.20 23:27:59 ] Geist Inkura > that isnt cold
  120. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:01 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA just vote for someone on the CSM... even if it is Mynna!
  121. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:02 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > I agree.
  122. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:02 ] Erec Okanata > ...15 C is warm .-.
  123. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:22 ] MBizon Osis > we are just poor hisec carebears noob corpies we need a big strong type to lead us to what?
  124. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:22 ] Onitawa Achuramo > Most don't.. but I have a severe lack of natural insulation, so anything close to that and I break out the sweaters and jackets
  125. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:24 ] Geist Inkura > vote for pedro!
  126. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:39 ] Ability USA > "just vote" rings of big brother, sorry
  127. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:43 ] MBizon Osis > he will protect you
  128. [ 2014.11.20 23:28:56 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA High Sec Apathy is the real threat.
  129. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:13 ] Flak Blevins > Lorelei Ierendi < *applauds* at least she is trying
  130. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:20 ] Ability USA > no, melancholy & not having better accusations and adjectives is
  131. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:23 ] CaCi-A 001Me > stop badmouthing apathy
  132. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:23 ] MBizon Osis > but really you just sound condescending (a ****).
  133. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:42 ] Erec Okanata > Eh, you don't really lose anything by voting. Actually, you gain something: a legitimate grounds on stand on while complaining.
  134. [ 2014.11.20 23:29:49 ] Lorelei Ierendi > MBizon Osis well... do something.
  135. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:14 ] Flak Blevins > if I end up in a game where I can get ganked, anywhere, anytime ... the buck stops
  136. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:16 ] MBizon Osis > i would block but them i miss half the fun
  137. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:24 ] Lorelei Ierendi > I remember enjoying that film, "Brewster's Millions".... vote for "none of the above!" lol
  138. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:37 ] Ability USA > Abstaining is a vote of no confidence. If you vote for something important with a real outcome, it matters. If I vote Pepperoni with Mushrooms I better get it.
  139. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:41 ] Flak Blevins > excellent movie
  140. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:48 ] Morcon Orti > fact
  141. [ 2014.11.20 23:30:56 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Ability USA in Eve if you abstain... noone knows it.
  142. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:08 ] Ability USA > as it should be.
  143. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:17 ] Lorelei Ierendi > noone knows that you chose not to vote. they just think you dont care!
  144. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:30 ] Lorelei Ierendi > I think it would be great if there was an "abstain" option.
  145. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:45 ] Flak Blevins > in coding .. its called a null
  146. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:50 ] Lorelei Ierendi > Then we would see how many people are paying attention... but dont want to vote/support anything.
  147. [ 2014.11.20 23:31:51 ] Ability USA > That is my goal. For each thing to stay the same and the next update to affect the game in a great way; no more rage quits for losing skills
  148. [ 2014.11.20 23:32:13 ] Clyde Frogg > hi
  149. [ 2014.11.20 23:32:17 ] CaCi-A 001Me > ho
  150. [ 2014.11.20 23:32:24 ] Flak Blevins > great idea, Lorelei
  151. [ 2014.11.20 23:33:07 ] Lorelei Ierendi > unfortunately the option is not yet there...
  152. [ 2014.11.20 23:33:34 ] Flak Blevins > how can that option be put into place?
  153. [ 2014.11.20 23:33:47 ] Flak Blevins > forum post?
  154. [ 2014.11.20 23:33:56 ] Ability USA > I would vote for that.
  155. [ 2014.11.20 23:34:22 ] Lorelei Ierendi > An option to vote for "none of the above"
  156. [ 2014.11.20 23:34:27 ] Flak Blevins > yes
  157. [ 2014.11.20 23:34:42 ] Flak Blevins > how do we get that implemented? and your idea of ..
  158. [ 2014.11.20 23:34:57 ] Flak Blevins > abstain
  159. [ 2014.11.20 23:35:03 ] Lorelei Ierendi > do you think enough people would be interested in it?
  160. [ 2014.11.20 23:35:06 ] Ability USA > loggging all who abstain
  161. [ 2014.11.20 23:35:44 ] Lorelei Ierendi > I think it is a big difference between those who actively do not vote... and those that just cant be bothered....
  162. [ 2014.11.20 23:35:50 ] Flak Blevins > I think ,, as you suggested .. CCP would get a more accurate count, of where the players stand
  163. [ 2014.11.20 23:35:51 ] Ability USA > Then you can target each abstaining apathetic carebear for your re-education
  164. [ 2014.11.20 23:36:09 ] Lorelei Ierendi > I dont want to reeducate
  165. [ 2014.11.20 23:36:23 ] Flak Blevins > which is the best for the whole game
  166. [ 2014.11.20 23:36:28 ] Ability USA > What good is information unless you use the statistics to manipulate and control the future outcome?
  167. [ 2014.11.20 23:36:49 ] Flak Blevins > are you a liberal Ability?
  168. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:02 ] Flak Blevins > :DD
  169. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:17 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > Are y'all maericans?
  170. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:19 ] Ability USA > I am very liberal with butter on my muffin if that is what you mean.
  171. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:23 ] Lorelei Ierendi > if we know that 80% of the players actively do not care about what the CSM are standing for... then we can claim that the CSM are not representative.
  172. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:26 ] Flak Blevins > omg! yes!
  173. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:32 ] CaCi-A 001Me > x-mas coming up... so here is a little sth to get you in the mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTw7w7LwdhE
  174. [ 2014.11.20 23:37:49 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > I had to ask, because most americans mean socialist when they say "liberal"
  175. [ 2014.11.20 23:38:05 ] Flak Blevins > samey same ..
  176. [ 2014.11.20 23:38:19 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > My point
  177. [ 2014.11.20 23:38:32 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > Socialism and libarlism are quite the opposite
  178. [ 2014.11.20 23:38:39 ] Flak Blevins > change .. for the sake of change .. means nothing
  179. [ 2014.11.20 23:38:56 ] Ability USA > lets talk about butter
  180. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:01 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > I agree
  181. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:04 ] Flak Blevins > but their ends are the same //
  182. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:11 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > Butter is delicious... margarine on the other hand...
  183. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:19 ] crazyfool76 > lol
  184. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:34 ] Flak Blevins > margarine is actually very bad for the human body
  185. [ 2014.11.20 23:39:45 ] Lorelei Ierendi > So, I wish you all a good night, and say "do something rather than do nothing!" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386664&find=unread (and margarine is very unhealthy)
  186. [ 2014.11.20 23:40:00 ] Kimotoro Homeboy > Now, that smells of treehugging socialism long way, Flak
  187. [ 2014.11.20 23:40:00 ] Ability USA > I like Paula Deen because she took a bite out of a butter stick once. Thats real.
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